5 Bad Arguments AGAINST Catholicism

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  • @maija333
    @maija333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Former born again Evangelical convert to Catholicism here. I love how you said “Look how they love one another.” That is so spot on. Keep up the great work you are doing. ❤️‍🔥

  • @JoshAlicea1229
    @JoshAlicea1229 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I actually attend a Pentecostal church that uses all of these arguments to refute Catholicism. Tbh, it makes a person like me who understands Catholic dogma and practice, want to become Catholic.

    • @johncox2284
      @johncox2284 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You won't regret coming into the Catholic Church.

    • @michaelbledsoe4355
      @michaelbledsoe4355 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes please convert cause if you can't see the difference you certainly aren't Pentacostal

    • @trevorsrq6179
      @trevorsrq6179 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do it. Ex-Pentecostal here…among other inter denominational chaos. The Catholic Church is the true Church. You think tongues-the lesser gift-is cool? We’ve got Christian Mystics! (Nothing Occult, fear not). AND we still believe in the Charismatic Gifts, but they must be rightly ordered, they must serve their proper end, not for our own consolations.

    • @emanuelgaluk7844
      @emanuelgaluk7844 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hey, my fellow catholics are eager to see you in the Catholic Church, and that is good, because we believe that the true teachings of Christ are preserved in the Catholic Church. Don't misunderstand me, I am eager too, but I will not say to you do this or that. Just reflect, pray and do what you think sincerely, to be what God says to you. Open heart, good will, honesty and prayers tend to open the way for God's actions in our life, and, as a catholic, I suspect that He will lead you to Catholicism.

    • @DanteColburn
      @DanteColburn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're welcome here any time you decide to give it a try, brother. May God bless you and guide your decisions according to His Will.

  • @xiomarablanco5598
    @xiomarablanco5598 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’m a 72 y/o cradle Catholic lady, and I’m a big fan of Austin, because he’s not only smart but a humble, honest and authentic Christian. A real blessing for all of us.🙏

  • @rhwinner
    @rhwinner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    You are like the evangelicals I grew up with: kind-hearted, honest, welcoming people. TH-cam just seems to bring out the worst in some people. What I like about Catholics is even though they have a right to claim descendancy from apostolic times they don't follow other creeds around on the internet and tell them they're going to hell or debase them or call them whores. For the most part Catholics wear their faith with humility and Grace.❤️🙏❤️

    • @haronsmith8974
      @haronsmith8974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @YAJUN YUAN for all the SDA trolls its funny because they dont actually have any SDA channels with content.

    • @jeandoten1510
      @jeandoten1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @YAJUN YUAN And Feenyism was declared a heresy.

    • @cheryl9856
      @cheryl9856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just like anyone, it depends on the Catholic. I have encountered warm, loving Christians of all persuasions.

    • @cheryl9856
      @cheryl9856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jeandoten1510 And yet, ironically, it is groups like the SSPX who are drawing in conservative Christians, not least of which because they have retained the Latin Mass

    • @jeandoten1510
      @jeandoten1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@cheryl9856Having spent 20 years singing chant at a Latin Novus Ordo Mass with an internationally acclaimed chant scholar and liturgist am myself somewhat of a "traditional" Catholic, and it disturbs me that so-called "traditional" Catholics seem to think that defying Papal authority by attending an illicit mass makes them more holy than everyone else (I am not making this up I have been told this to my face more than once.) I clarified the status of Father Feeny just in case someone reading this was unclear about his status and the status of his teaching. It just so happens that my conversion to the Catholic church occurred at St.Paul's in Cambridge, MA, which Is where Feeny started his heretical movement and began to establish his cult, so I was aware of his history and problematic theology even before I became Catholic.

  • @isaaccohen2533
    @isaaccohen2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I wrestled with all five of these points to some degree on my journey to eventually being confirmed as a Catholic in May. Thank you for providing such nuance on all of these. You put into words what I guess frustrated me about what I was hearing from Protestant circles

    • @believewithyourheart5627
      @believewithyourheart5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think I can relate! I may on the road to becoming catholic myself! And yes, all these questions have been well and truly wrestled 😆

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My pleasure!

    • @1Hope4All
      @1Hope4All ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Welcome Home Isaac. 🙏🏽

    • @1Hope4All
      @1Hope4All ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@believewithyourheart5627 So glad you're on your way. 🙏🏽

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GospelSimplicity What's funny is that you're actually a *better* debater on Catholicism.. than like 95% of Catholics themselves.
      Sorry but next time a Protestant bugs me, I'm going to use your arguments😋😋

  • @ignacio.gonzalez.osb_dc
    @ignacio.gonzalez.osb_dc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Another great video, Austin! One of the arguments I've heard that was more popular in the 1980s when I was in high school was that "Catholics corrupted the true gospel when Constantine was Emperor" -- as if the true faith lay dormant for centuries until Martin Luther and the other Reformers rescued the Bible from the Church. But that argument overlooks the history of monasticism that sustained and maintained the true faith during the "Dark Ages" and the articulations of Anselm and Aquinas in the 11th and 12th centuries. It is convenient to skip 1,000 years from Augustine to Luther to make a Bible-only argument, but to do so is a "tradition of man that nullifies the Word of God" (Mark 7:13).
    Read the Letters of St. Ignatius of Antioch who died a martyr in AD107. He learned the Gospel from Sts. Peter and John. What he wrote 2,000 years ago is not all that different from the divisions in Christianity we presently find ourselves because as the Book of Ecclesiastes states, "there is nothing new under the sun." (Eccl. 1:9).
    Mary, Mother of the Church, pray for us -- that we may be one as your Son and the Father are one (cf. John 17:21).

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Brother Ignacio! What a pleasure to see your name pop up. I pray you are well. The Constantine argument is a common one, and it has all types of flaws. I'll be mentioning that one in an upcoming video

    • @ANGAR0NE
      @ANGAR0NE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Two kind of traditions Jewish and Christian, Same than Works...
      2 Thessalonians 3:6
      [6]In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we urge you, brothers, to keep away from any of the brothers who lives an undisciplined life, not in accordance with the tradition you received from us.
      ...
      1 Corinthians 11:1-2
      [1]Take me as your pattern, just as I take Christ for mine.
      [2]I congratulate you for remembering me so consistently and for maintaining the traditions exactly as I passed them on to you.
      ...
      2 Thessalonians 2:14-15
      [14]Through our gospel he called you to this so that you should claim as your own the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      [15]Stand firm, then, brothers, and keep the traditions that we taught you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
      ...
      Ignatius was before Constantine.
      And Constantine was before of the Council of Rome where the New Testament was added to Scriptures 27 books, those books was selected from other Apocryphal by the Tradition of the Church. Sola Scriptura is a big fail. Not saying is not true but our traditions are true also. Is like gears that complement each other.

    • @michael7144
      @michael7144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I looked up john 17:21 I do not see that quote, what version of the bible did you get that from?

    • @ignacio.gonzalez.osb_dc
      @ignacio.gonzalez.osb_dc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michael7144 English Standard Version where Mary of Nazareth’s Son is praying to our Heavenly Father: “John 17:21
      [21] that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.”

    • @michael7144
      @michael7144 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I see, the "mary mother of the church" interjection confused me. Why would you add that? It is very misleading.

  • @dennischanay7781
    @dennischanay7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'm late life RCC convert Just want to say God bless you Austin. I really learn alot from your channel.

    • @jonkelley7713
      @jonkelley7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Welcome Home. Me too

    • @ohmightywez
      @ohmightywez ปีที่แล้ว

      May I ask you, does it offend you when lifelong Catholics say things as “welcome home” or “welcome back”?
      I used to say things like that to people who stated they had converted and I was told it was patronizing, which was absolutely not my intention. I wanted to express my joy in having a brother or sister fully in communion with the Body of Christ.

  • @metanoiafaith
    @metanoiafaith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    You actually defend Catholicism better than many Catholics! :)

    • @joecardone4887
      @joecardone4887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @YAJUN YUAN I think they’re talking about just most Catholics in general (your average Catholic) not apologists

    • @CatholicCat-er9xn
      @CatholicCat-er9xn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen!

    • @ahwhite2022
      @ahwhite2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      At this point, he knows more about Catholicism than most Catholics.

    • @Qwerty-jy9mj
      @Qwerty-jy9mj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ahwhite2022
      Not a high bar, also irrelevant to the point about which Church Jesus founded.

    • @lelandunruh7896
      @lelandunruh7896 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One of the best and most vehement defenders of Catholicism I know is Jewish. I sometimes tell him that I'm just waiting for a stiff wind to knock him into an RCIA class!

  • @delvaassante5699
    @delvaassante5699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This was SO well done, Austin. You have hit exactly on the most common arguments against Catholicism that we faithful Catholics encounter all the time.
    Re: The Bible. It is true, so many Catholics do not read daily, but our faith is indeed Bible based. Jesus is our Savior! Our Mass is FILLED with the Bible, whether it be the Old Testament readings, the New Testament reading (The Gospel), the Psalms, The Lord’s Prayer.
    I went to 16 years of Catholic school. I was never taught to worship Mary. We venerate her, we honor her as the person whose “yes” to the Father brought our Lord to this earth to save us. How can anyone NOT realize how special she is? She is the perfect example of obedience to God…and she birthed and raised Jesus!
    As far as the pedophile scandals…The Church is a church of humans, and yes, Satan will always attempt to infiltrate it. Our job is to purge Satan from the Church….Not throw the Church out with Satan.

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thing about the Bible may be because of the mass being said in Latin, not the local language.
      That being said, I do have an official Douay Bible in English that was made before Vatican II.

    • @jimohara4796
      @jimohara4796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My Southern Baptist friends who used to say "Does the pedophile priest thing bother you?" have suddenly gone very quiet now that the multiple pedophile scandals have been exposed in the Southern Baptist church over the years.

    • @ANGAR0NE
      @ANGAR0NE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Church is against those kind of actions, and I think on all Christian denominations also. So those attitudes goes to the person. Is not healthy if we want to become one Church again, like Jesus want it, to blame on each other. Is not the Church, is simply an horrible sin from the ones that suppose to guide us to God, reason why is so painful.

    • @wbl5649
      @wbl5649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimohara4796 and the Southern Baptists are currently being investigated by the DOJ

    • @supreme87878
      @supreme87878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "not throw the church out with satan"👍🏼

  • @fr.davidbibeau621
    @fr.davidbibeau621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Honestly, it's not that some of the arguments are bad. Much of what protestants say about catholicism is actually lies.

    • @SakutoNoSAI
      @SakutoNoSAI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Agreed. I was raised Baptist, so for a long time I had an irrational fear, without any loathing, towards their theology, despite having attended a traditional Methodist Church for years in my latter youth. It's not until reading the Church Fathers that I started adopting catholic theology, praying the Liturgy of Hours and even the rosary. Now I call myself a Mere Christian, because I do NOT protest the catholic church, but disagree with some major dogmas which I respect (and that have nothing do with Salvation).
      Still, I pray the Hail Mary atleast 3 times a day. I love our lady, for she gave birth to our saviour.

    • @brittybee6615
      @brittybee6615 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Misunderstandings and lies are not the same thing.

    • @soulcutterx13
      @soulcutterx13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@brittybee6615 That's true and it's not true. The thing is that I think the vast majority of people aren't getting their information "from" their own thoughts. They heard a trusted teacher say it, and they believed them. That's okay! That's good! You're not supposed to have to **be** a doctor of theology to pick which church to go to!
      But there's always a chain of ideas to track through, like the true vine of Christ passes down Truth, there is a vine that is of the devil and it wraps itself around the true vine, trying to choke the life from it. And where it is planted, the person who first made the successful arguments that led to this point, they have to hold some moral responsibility for intentionally placing a stumbling block in front of their brother, because they are not walking in love and they are separating themselves from the will of the God who sent us into the world.

    • @SakutoNoSAI
      @SakutoNoSAI ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brittybee6615 I agree. One sees this sort of things by reading the non-canonical scriptures

    • @ChrisEAdlay
      @ChrisEAdlay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow that's amazing please pray for me and my family's conversion

  • @TheXone7
    @TheXone7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your Catholic brother in Christ here. Love your videos, keep searching for the truth! God bless and protect you every day all your life! :)

  • @Motomack1042
    @Motomack1042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I know the majority of Catholics and the Church take a charitable position towards our separated bothers and sisters, unfortunately in my experience most protestants are not very charitable towards Catholics. Just look at other TH-cam vids or any TV preacher on Sunday morning. How we interact is vitally important in how those outside the church view us. I have had some really nasty hateful attacks from someone who says they are a " Christian". If we are going to survive this time in human history we need to work at coming together, a unified witness is much stronger than a divided body with each group at each others throats.

    • @believewithyourheart5627
      @believewithyourheart5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sadly, I agree with you. When I first came to Christ I was surrounded by seventh day Adventist’s, and from their council, I must say, I was terrified of Catholics. Really! Thank God for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, who will always bring us into truth.

    • @sproutfire8878
      @sproutfire8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sadly agree as well. Evangelicals spit venom at Catholism and are very quick to judge. Further why are they sending their missionaries to Catholic majority countries when they should send to those that have other faiths or are mainly atheists? Cherry-picking? Me thinks so

    • @IamGrimalkin
      @IamGrimalkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sproutfire8878
      I would very much agree with you that anti-catholic discourse is not very helpful; but I'm not sure what your issue is with protestant missionaries going to 'catholic' countries?
      I'm sure you'll agree that many who call themselves catholic, while they may have been baptised as a catholic; actually don't go to mass (or only go for cultural reasons) and don't accept the gospel.
      This can, of course, be a problem in protestant circles as well; and I would welcome catholic missionaries to come to 'protestant' areas. If nothing else, for those who haven't been receptive to the protestant approach there, a different approach might make them more receptive to the gospel, and ultimately that's the most important thing.

    • @lyndavonkanel8603
      @lyndavonkanel8603 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IamGrimalkin What's wrong is that they go with misinformation about the church and want to pull people out if it. What they should do is encourage them to learn more about their Catholic faith and become more involved in it, if they say anything at all. The Gospel is already there. I agree if missionaries want to spread the Word, there's a world full of people who have not heard it to go to.

    • @IamGrimalkin
      @IamGrimalkin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyndavonkanel8603
      Personally, I still don't see the issue.
      If they grew up catholic and still haven't accepted the gospel, perhaps the catholic approach isn't working well and a different approach might work better.
      Of course they could point them to a different group of catholics with a different style, but it's far easier to just go with what the evangelist already knows about.
      Edit: misinformation is of course bad. But encouraging compeltdly lasped catholics to try Protestantism instead is a fine approach, if they try an alternative expression of chrsitianity it might click with them better.

  • @johncox2284
    @johncox2284 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The empty ritual argument is something I had a pentecostal pastor tell me (I'm Orthodox). Rituals are part of all our lives, marriage, graduation, retirement, Thanksgiving dinner, etc. The Liturgy of the church follows the life of Christ and brings us the reality of the Eucharist among other things.

    • @southbug27
      @southbug27 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A big part of the terrible unhappiness, loneliness, & feeling lost in the modern world is because we have thrown away all the rituals, & there’s nothing for people to hang onto or to rebel against. My grandparents always had a large garden & canned food. Once they were too old to keep a garden, I noticed an empty feeling creeping in every year. At first, I thought it was sadness over them getting older & losing some traditions, but a few decades later I’ve realized it helped me feel grounded in the world, the seasons, & all the people who came before me. Having a religious calendar with seasons is more important than people think.

  • @TheJoyofCatholicTradition
    @TheJoyofCatholicTradition ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One criticism. Catholics don't adore Mary, we venerate her. We adore God

  • @leanderflathers5352
    @leanderflathers5352 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Way to go Austin! Lifelong self-appointed Catholic apologist here. I love your work, you are a true child of God! I couldn't agree with you more. I wish we could all have joyful, respectful and loving dialogue where instead of arguing and bickering, we could Earnestly and with humility, learn from each other!

  • @zacbarnes2187
    @zacbarnes2187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm a protestant currently enrolled at DTS and have to deal with these bad arguments all the time. My mother-in-law grew up in Brazil and was raised Catholic but left for Protestantism long ago. She constantly says things that just seem overtly wrong and hostile about Catholics. Some classics:
    - "Look at all those saints! What idolatry!"
    - "You can't bless in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! That is a Catholic thing, Christians don't do that."
    - "God has no mother!"
    I can see how her upbringing likely tainted her perspective but they are clearly bad arguments.

    • @silveriorebelo2920
      @silveriorebelo2920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no way - her upbringing has nothing to do with her anti-catholic tirades - ex-catholic people feel the need tyo repeat every anti-catholic meme they find in order to justify their betrayal to the faith

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see the argument that protestants don't understand Catholicism, and so caricature it. That can be fair enough. When someone was raised Catholic and does understand it from the inside, those same arguments don't really stand. The only thing I don't agree w/ is crossing ourselves. Why not do that beautiful ritual. I don't agree w/ many Catholic doctrines, but I do find deep comfort in the sign of the cross, and blessing myself, or making a simple prayer w/ the holy trinity. Catholics are Christians and they obtained much wisdom through the ages.

  • @themartialartsmermaid
    @themartialartsmermaid ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Okay. I just want to say how grateful I am for this channel. The love and respect between believers along with the incredible presentation of history and the elevated dialogue has been so helpful in understanding my brothers and sisters in Christ. 🧡 Keep up the good work!

  • @deborah5763
    @deborah5763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I have been watching your channel since you first visited a Catholic church in Chicago (St. Cantius?) and received a tour
    from one of the priests there. I have not watched every single one of your videos, but many of them and I think you do an excellent job.
    I am an adult convert who made a short leap from the Episcopal church, then briefly to the Anglican church and at 56 finally
    converted to the Catholic church. Perhaps I didn't have as many hurdles to jump as say a Baptist, there were still hurdles. Mary was the least of my hurdles. Catholics revere Mary for the important role she played the the salvation story because she
    brought forth the saviour into the world.. She is the mother of Jesus. She was at the foot of the cross when Jesus was taken down and she was with the disciples at Pentecost.
    I would think another complaint Protestants have against Catholicism and a big one is the Pope.
    Will you be doing similarly themed videos about pros and cons of Protestantism?
    You are very bright and certainly inquisitive and I think your exploration of the differences between Catholicism and
    Protestantism is good.

    • @brianfarley926
      @brianfarley926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For sure the most distinct doctrine of the Church is Pope. I don’t think it’s the most important doctrine but definitely one of the biggest hurdles for someone to overcome because for them they think you can freely believe whatever you want to believe about the Scriptures and they’re immersed in a culture based in relativity. My mother suffers from this is an anti Catholic and at the same time thinks all Christianity is the same which obviously it’s not

    • @1Hope4All
      @1Hope4All 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deborah, I also started watching Austin when he first visited my parish, Saint John Cantius Church in Chicago. And the priest who gave him the tour is my Pastor. He's the Superior General of the Canons Regular of Saint John Cantius and also the Pastor of said Parish. He's the youngest Superior and Pastor. His name is Father Joshua Caswell and his blood brother is also a priest whose name is Father Nathan Caswell.
      And guess what? 😁 They are converts to the Catholic Church! Yep! CONVERTS! 😃😊😇 They were Pentecostals from Canada.
      I met Father Joshua many years ago, back when he was Deacon Joshua. He came to my old Parish, St. Thomas More and gave a homily. After Mass we had coffee and refreshments in the parish hall. My daughter and I were sitting at a table by ourselves (that's how it usually was) so then Deacon Joshua came straight to our table and introduced himself. He sat down with us the whole time he was there and told my daughter and me his conversion story.
      The Virgin Mary had a huge role in his conversion. His parents actually became Catholic and took the whole family with them but Father Joshua was not really convinced but he had to because he was still a minor. But later on in his life is when he finally had his own true conversion of heart and Mary had everything to do with it. 😁😇😊
      Short version of his conversion of heart (he was already Catholic) is that he saw that the Virgin Mary was like the moon that reflects light from the sun. Mary reflects and magnifies light from her Son, our Lord, Jesus Christ. So he saw that in Mary's Magnificat where she states, "My soul doth magnify the Lord" in Luke's gospel.
      Father never forgot my daughter's and my name. He saw us only that one time in my old Parish when he was a Deacon. We saw each other again a couple of years later and he called my daughter and me by our names! 😃 I couldn't believe that he remembered our names after only seeing us just one time then seeing us again at Cantius a few years later!
      We went to his *Ordination* at St. John Cantius! So we were able to get a first blessing from him and his brother, Father Nathan.

    • @kynesilagan2676
      @kynesilagan2676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember reading in one of comments
      When he saw the Pope JP2 forgave his attacker. He clearly knew he wasn't the anti Christ.
      Good or bad Popes. Truth must prevail in accepting our Faith.
      Will pray for you and your Mother, Brother.

    • @bellanitocortez-rodriguez9235
      @bellanitocortez-rodriguez9235 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here

  • @bobblacka918
    @bobblacka918 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can get the entirety of Catholicism from 1 Corinthians 11 : 23-33 NIV. The Apostle Paul writes:
    "I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus... took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord."
    As you can see, the central part of Catholicism is the Eucharist, which was celebrated by St. Paul and the early Christians exactly as it is today. No changes in 2,000 years. But a question arises on whether or not the Eucharist is mandatory or voluntary for Eternal Life. Jesus himself chimes in on that question. He says in John 6 : 53-58 NIV:
    “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink."
    Jesus was not ambiguous about celebrating the Eucharist. He repeats the same message over and over in John Chapter 6 reiterating the importance of eating his flesh and drinking his blood. And when his disciples complained this was a hard teaching and started to leave him, Jesus did not back off and claim he was only talking about a symbol. He doubled down and told them: "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
    So any argument that Catholics do not follow the Bible is grossly incorrect because the current Mass is exactly the way Jesus and St. Paul told us to celebrate it. Just watch any Catholic Mass on TH-cam and you will see all these elements in place just as they are described in the Bible.

  • @Jayce_Alexander
    @Jayce_Alexander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is absolutely a lot of what you address in the comment sections of most videos dealing with the differences between Christian denominations. But the good news is also that I don't think I've ever seen quite as many high profile content creators steel manning opposing arguments as within the online Christian community. I converted to Christianity in late 2019, and until that time had actually been listening mostly to rather explicitly atheist podcasts (I was a big fan of Sam Harris, for example). As I started exploring Christian content I was astounded at how much more often many Christian content creators (for example Matt Fradd) use steel manning than a respected and undeniably brilliant scholar like Harris.
    Intellectual honesty is a beautiful thing, and I'm glad to see you leading by example - which is itself a very Christian thing to do.

    • @brittybee6615
      @brittybee6615 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s kinda funny that I first learned the concept of steel manning from Harris.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brittybee6615 Harris does talk about steel manning, but maybe he doesn't appear to carry it out like he claims. I remember some debates w/ Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris and Peterson seemed to be the better example of steel manning.

    • @brittybee6615
      @brittybee6615 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saintejeannedarc9460 Credit where it’s due, I think Sam did a good job there.
      I don’t know, maybe he has to be in direct interaction with someone to try being fair 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @merseabless8305
    @merseabless8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have been watching your channel for some time and every video gets better . Your message and your content wonderfully presented. I am Catholic and always looking for good content. Thank you

  • @jacksoncastelino04
    @jacksoncastelino04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank You Austin for defending Holy Catholic Faith. And correcting those who slander n abuse Holy Catholic Faith.
    May God bless you and Bring you to the Fulness of Truth.
    Praying for you

  • @johnproffitt3272
    @johnproffitt3272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your use of the word adoration in your first point is poorly chosen. You use the greek words doula and laetria to distinguish the difference between the worship due to God alone and the reverence we hold for the angels and Saints in heaven. The Catholic teaching would also add the Greek term hyper-doula as the reverence due to Mary which is higher than that due to the angels or saints. This is because of the Catholic belief that she was conceived without sin, and she lived a sinless life. She is still not to be worshipped and adored, like God alone, but she is the creature that is worthy of the greatest reverence in recognition of the greatest graces bestowed on her by God.

  • @daenithriuszanathos9306
    @daenithriuszanathos9306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Catholics don't read the Bible."
    What do people think we listen to during Mass/Divine Liturgy every Sunday (or every day)? Never mind the overwhelming number of references to Biblical texts throughout the liturgy. And don't even get me started on the Liturgy of the Hours.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's still differen than actively reading the bible. Other Christians have much more lengthy sermons in church, but still read the bible for themselves and tend to be better versed in it, compared to the average Catholic. When I talk to most Catholics, they really don't know scripture. They may hear scripture in Mass, but that doesn't mean they really know it. For many Catholics that don't value the bible to read it, the only scripture they would know is the Our Father prayer, just because it's recited in Mass.

  • @shainahaverly684
    @shainahaverly684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish I could have double liked once you started talking about how "I love the way they love" points towards how we interact. Amazing content Austin and great mission. God Bless you and your ministry!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you appreciated that!

    • @MCRECKYD
      @MCRECKYD ปีที่แล้ว

      If you really wanna like it harder that much, if possible break a couple of bucks off for my Man Austin. Up to you though. GOD BLESS. PAX.

  • @teresaoneill6440
    @teresaoneill6440 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Generally, being a cradle Catholic, I was never encouraged, or heard, or saw Catholics models in my entire life dis Protestants. They always said, "our brothers and sisters in Christ".

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      That surprises me, but it's great if it's true that Catholics see protestant Christians as brothers. Protestants generally aren't so gracious. The Catholics I encounter online are pretty dubious of us though.

  • @rosew7962
    @rosew7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Catholics really need to learn to defend the faith. So many misconceptions are taught to non Catholics about Catholicism. As far as reading the Bible, most of the Mass comes from the Bible! A reading from the Old Testament, New Testament, Gospel, and Psalms is included in every Mass. Also, the last supper. If a person attends Mass every Sunday, they will have read the entire Gospel every 4 years.

  • @mariac4602
    @mariac4602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just chuckling here that you had to change the title of your last video. I am Catholic and I totally understood your intent - the original title gave it away. You could have gone deeper and gone head-to-head with authentic arguments but instead you were encouraging us to not use these superficial arguments and instead go deeper and engage in authentic dialogue. I truly appreciated it. Thank you, Austin, and God bless.

  • @freda7961
    @freda7961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Actually, it’s not just “each week” as we have daily Masses. But yeah, bad argument.

  • @bretr7327
    @bretr7327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a close relative that perpetuates these sorts of lies about my Catholic beliefs. When I try to talk to him about it he simply refuses to have a civil conversation. I pray for him and for all of us that hold some type of negative bias. Some times our own pride gets in the way of finding peace.

  • @Mikolai206
    @Mikolai206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The fact that you have Steven Anderson on the cover tells me these arguments are really bad.

    • @MeadeSkeltonMusic
      @MeadeSkeltonMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's based

    • @user-ii3zs2gr6u
      @user-ii3zs2gr6u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MeadeSkeltonMusic Yeah, based in LIES!
      He's good on Israel and dispensationalism, though, credit where it's due.

    • @Hoodinator17
      @Hoodinator17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MeadeSkeltonMusic be has terrible arguments 😂

    • @Aaryq
      @Aaryq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      #PissethAgainstTheWall

    • @JohnVianneyPatron
      @JohnVianneyPatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it should have been "Dr" James White😅😅

  • @christinebravomom5711
    @christinebravomom5711 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have had many loving, devout non-Catholic Christian friends. The best of them have taken the time to see what my faith and practice have been like before bringing up any of the anti-Catholic stuff they've been taught. This has been such a blessing, because it allowed me to explain Catholic teaching and practice in a loving, biblical way. Each time, the other person has ended up saying something like, "I don't believe what you do, but I see that what you believe and what you do are consistent with the Bible."

  • @wfleming537
    @wfleming537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The scandal question is so hard to address without seemingly downplaying the situation but the problem is it's really just opportunistic misleading by people who hate the Catholic church and want to label all priests as paedophiles. I wonder sometimes if it's really a form of misandry. Our society does not look kindly on older single men especially if they like kids. But to get back to the point, statistics show that abuse is less prominent in Catholic churches than most other areas of public life including public schools. Protestant churches benefit from being so decentralized that they can't be lumped together in the same away when similar in incidents occur. They also don't have to deal with the temptation of attempting to hide other's bad behavior which is the far bigger stain on the Catholic churches reputation. The coverup was even worse than the horrific abuse that occured.

    • @jonathansoko1085
      @jonathansoko1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its incredibly easy to deal with those who harp on the catholic churches scandal problems. Its easy because its usually from a person who either ignores any scandal with any protestant preacher, or is misleading on purpose. There are so many prot scandals, they just dont get the headlines of catholic ones, unless its a big one like ravi. I just google a couple things and the convo is really over. People doing bad things on their own are not an argument against any church, it goes both ways. If its a calvanist, i just ask them if their preacher was pre destined to commit those crimes or not and thats usually enough to get them into meme mockery mode and then its basically done.

    • @viviennedunbar3374
      @viviennedunbar3374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing can be worse than the abuse itself but it is a form of abuse in itself (and a crime) by covering up the truth.

    • @jonathansoko1085
      @jonathansoko1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@viviennedunbar3374 Yes and any one in charge in the church guilty, should be dealt with and locked up. Most rational Catholics would say this. We dont want abuse, at all. 0%. Lock them up.

    • @therese6447
      @therese6447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at Blue Collar Catholic (his name is Rob) on youtube too he has addressed scandal and sex abuse in the Church. He has given his sources as well. I will paraphrase and look him up there were studies done about sex abuse of the sex abuse that occurs the most is in public schools and less so in Christian schools of which there are now scandals in Protestant Churches that are less than public but even more so than in Catholic. This is not to throw shade on our Protestant brothers and sisters or on our own Catholic Church even one abuse is a scandal. The Church is full of sinners and Christ never promised a perfect Church. Yet because the Catholic Church has a hierarchy and now is addressing those scandals thru reporting and zero tolerance it is nonexistent...there were about less than 2 percent of priests who committed this horrific scandal during a certain time period. In Protestant denominations because of lack of reporting and hierarchy authority these reports are less publicised thru the secular and maintstream media who in general don't like the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. So these reports show there are more of these scandals in Protestant denominations but on the whole scandal in Protestant and Catholic circles are much less than public secular circles. So we must all do better in this realm. The secular media amplifies these scandals in the Catholic church making it sound bigger than one it is because the Church doctrine and organization proper has always fought against modernism, abortion, traditional roles of men vs women etc which is at odds with the liberal media alignment with leftsist ideals. And as Austin says here because individual sinners chose do wrong doesn't negate the Truth of the Church ...just as a bad Methodist or Baptist who commits scandal doesn't speak for their Church body. As a Catholic we don't follow or not follow the the Church because this guy in the church sins...we follow the Catholic Church because it is the bulkwark and pillar of Truth of our Lord Jesus Christ who established it. He told us to beware of bad shepherds....Judas was with Jesus at the Last Supper....some left but some stayed...we don't leave Jesus and His Church because of Judas.
      The other point is Catholics and Protestants must show by their example that we are Christians thru our actions...this is the biggest for evangelization...it hurts the body of Christ when we don't.

    • @jimnewl
      @jimnewl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Protestants--I'm thinking mainly of the Evangelical variety here--have a convenient dodge when it comes to scandal within their ranks because when it happens they just read the guilty party out of their communion and say he was never really one of them.

  • @Proclivitytolife
    @Proclivitytolife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Austin, great video. I really agree with the point you made at the end about how inter-Christian dialogue and interactions can become huge obstacles to the non-Christian looking at us. Although I don't intend to lay the blame entirely at the feet of Protestants, because certainly some Catholics (including myself in some regrettable instances) can improve in this matter as well.
    However one detail I've noticed that strikes me as a major indicator of how an exchange between a Catholic Christian and a Protestant Christian will go, is whether or not the Protestant will consider Catholics to even be Christians.
    Sure, there may be a very small minority of Catholics who may consider Protestants not to even be Christians (maybe), however they'd be doing so in contradiction to their own Church's teaching on the matter. Whereas it is fairly common, from my own experience at least, to have Protestants refuse to even accord us the precious name of Christian. Sure, Catholics may throw around the word heresy (sometimes a bit too liberally) but we by and large understand very well that you are indeed Christians. But I really couldn't tell you how many dozens of times I've been told by some Prostestant that I am not even a Christian at all.
    So basically what I'm getting at is that I've had hundreds of exchanges with Protestants and I really don't think I remember a single Protestant who indeed saw me as a fellow Christian, who was rude and aggressive and lacking the charity that Christ said we must have for each other if the world is to take notice of us. Whereas I am quite confident in saying that every single interaction I've had with Protestants who don't consider me as a Christian are of the type that could make our Lord blush. It's like such people seem to think that since we "aren't Christians", that they have some sort of license to go off on us as not simply being in error on some matters, but as enablers of a "false antichrist gospel" and "Banylonian Sun worshipers" or otherwise "pagan".
    So again, not that Catholics have no room for improvement, but if the Protestants who don't recognize us as even being Christians could get with the program and join the rest of the Protestants who do recognize us as Christians (and obviously so), I predict it would improve our dialog more than anything else.
    I've come to a tentative conclusion that there actually are some Protestants who may not actually be Christians. Namely, those Protestants who can't see or accept that Catholic Christians are indeed Christians. For someone to hate us to the extent of not being able to recognize that we are obviously Christians, it becomes doubtful to me that such a person has any real connection to, relationship, or worship of God.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't stand how papalists won't even call the rest of us Catholic.

    • @Proclivitytolife
      @Proclivitytolife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mygoalwogel do you want to be?

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Proclivitytolife That's like asking you if you *want to be* Christian, and assuming you aren't already.

    • @Proclivitytolife
      @Proclivitytolife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mygoalwogel no, I meant, do you want to be *called* Catholic. The type of Protestant Christian who will deny that Catholic Christians are indeed Christians, aren't the kind who usually want anything to do with the name "Catholic".
      I don't know if you are one of those who will deny that Catholic Christians are Christians, but you used the term "papalist" to refer to us, which is rather insulting, and it's difficult to believe that you don't realize it is insulting, and thus it would seem that you did so to insult me on purpose - which then leads me to think you are maybe the type of Protestant Christian I was referring to in my comment. And if that's the case, I then legitimately wondered if you actually want to be called Catholic or if you are just saying that.

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Proclivitytolife
      I don't mean to be insulting. That's why I avoided the term "papist."
      If _Christians in fellowship with the Pope_ call us "Protestants" or "Lutherans" or "Nestorians" (all derogatory terms), then we may call them "Papists."
      If CiFWtP refuse to call us members of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, then we may refuse to call them members of the Christian Church.
      Call us Catholics and we'll call you Christians.
      But then how do we refer to distinctions?

  • @claybahl5107
    @claybahl5107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video! As a Catholic, one critique I offer charitably is I would not even associate the word “adoration” with Mary at all. One might find archaic instances where it’s used, but “adoration” in current usage refers more to the worship due to God alone.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear Catholic defend adoration of Mary quite often.

    • @claybahl5107
      @claybahl5107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saintejeannedarc9460 Do they actually use the word "adoration," or are you interpreting what they mean? Also, since I see that your username is French, I should make the caveat that I can't speak for the proper vocabulary in other languages.
      But there's simply no room in Catholic theology for "adoration" of Mary, if we understand that word in its typical modern sense. Any hesitation about that fact is either from gross ignorance, or a perhaps well-intentioned but mistaken desire to counteract Protestant minimizations of Mary's role.

  • @veredictum4503
    @veredictum4503 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The "re-presentation" of the sacrifice of the Mass is definitely not simplistic. But one of the best analogies / explanations (at least to me) was used by Steve Ray. He used the example of the sun and the moon. There is only 1 sun and 1 moon (for us here on earth!); they don't change. So that is like the supreme sacrifice of Jesus at Calvary - once and for all, does not change. However, because the earth rotates, so every morning we see a sun "rise", even sun "sets", then moon appears. Every day. But it is the same sun, same moon.
    So it is with the Mass. Calvary is once and for all. But each day, we can "re-live" it, or "re-present" it, because Jesus said "as often as you do this, you do it in memory of me". Jesus did not say "just do once per lifetime, good enough". As often as you do this - can be weekly, can be daily.

  • @KrunoslavStifter
    @KrunoslavStifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    #2 bad argument about how Catholics don't read the Bible.
    "The Trouble is Nowadays the illiterates can read and write."
    - Alberto Moravia (1907-1990)
    Catholicism obviously predates Protestantism and what most American Protestants don't seem to realize is that for much of existence in the middle ages after the fall of western half of the Roman empire, most people were illiterate, spoke variety of languages and Bible as a book was not even available to most priests who were trained to read by the Church. Because it was before the printing machine was invented and there were no public schools. Hence not only were most people illiterate, but even if they wanted to read they could not print the Bible and hand copying it was painstaking and specialized tasks. Hence priests that did get a hand copied few pages of the Bible, and were trained by the Church to be able to read it , than acted as readers to the people during gathering, mass. The rest was oral tradition. This also meant that comparing inconsistencies in the Bible was a problem if you only have few pages of it in your possession.
    Hence Church developed methods of supplementing the aspects that today many take for granted. Like electricity so one can read at night easily or having leisure time and not having to work in the field etc.
    In Germany, around 1440, goldsmith Johannes Gutenberg invented the movable-type printing press, which started the Printing Revolution.
    The Reformation (alternatively named the Protestant Reformation or the European Reformation) was a major movement within Western Christianity in 16th-century Europe that posed a religious and political challenge to the Catholic Church and in particular to papal authority, arising from what were perceived to be errors, abuses, and discrepancies by the Catholic Church. The Reformation was the start of Protestantism and the split of the Western Church into Protestantism and what is now the Roman Catholic Church. It is also considered to be one of the events that signify the end of the Middle Ages and the beginning of the early modern period in Europe
    P.S.
    When people say today, but the Bible say... I ask them which Bible. Do you know there are more than one version, Protestants. Roman Catholics and Greek Orthodox Christians have different versions of the Bible. I sometimes find protestants, in American in particular completely ignorant of world history, European History, History of Christianity and even American History. And yet they can read and write. Imagine the irony. Hence....
    "The Trouble is Nowadays the illiterates can read and write."
    - Alberto Moravia (1907-1990)

    • @KrunoslavStifter
      @KrunoslavStifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @YAJUN YUAN How did priest learn to read and write? Before I answer that, a bit of a background story. For those who don't know.
      In 313, Emperor Constantine I's Edict of Milan legalised Christianity, and in 330 Constantine moved the imperial capital to Constantinople, modern Istanbul, Turkey. In 380 the Edict of Thessalonica made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire, a position that within the diminishing territory of the Byzantine Empire would persist until the empire itself ended in the fall of Constantinople in 1453, while elsewhere the church was independent of the empire, as became particularly clear with the East-West Schism.
      The East-West Schism (also known as the Great Schism or Schism of 1054) is the break of communion since 1054 between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. A succession of ecclesiastical differences and theological disputes between the Greek East and Latin West preceded the formal split that occurred in 1054.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism
      The Catholic Church was the dominant influence on Western European civilization from Late Antiquity to the dawn of the modern age.
      In Christianity's ancient Pentarchy, five patriarchies held special eminence: the sees of Rome, Constantinople, Jerusalem, Antioch, and Alexandria. These were also places of learning.
      The prestige of most of these sees depended in part on their apostolic founders, or in the case of Byzantium/Constantinople, that it was the new seat of the continuing Eastern Roman, or Byzantine Empire. These bishops considered themselves the successors of those apostles. In addition, all five cities were early centers of Christianity, they lost their importance after the Levant was conquered by the Sunni Caliphate.
      Modern western universities have their origins directly in the Medieval Church. They began as cathedral schools, and all students were considered clerics. This was a benefit as it placed the students under ecclesiastical jurisdiction and thus imparted certain legal immunities and protections. The cathedral schools eventually became partially detached from the cathedrals and formed their own institutions, the earliest being the University of Paris (c. 1150), the University of Bologna (1088), and the University of Oxford (1096).
      What few people are aware of is that after the decline of the western half of the Roman Empire, the Eastern Half remained strong and grew to innovate and preserve a lot of the Roman and Greek culture. The Byzantine Empire as it is often called stood the test of time for another thousand years defending western Europeans from Muslim and other invasions. They preserved lot of the Roman and Greek culture, among other things and eventually will reintroduce that back to the west in late medieval times, resulting in the renaissance and eventual protenstian reformation.
      The other civilization and religion of the preserved Roman and Greek culture were Muslims.
      The Islamic Golden Age was one of the most remarkable periods of scholarly achievement and cultural flourishing in human history. Covering the years from approximately 750-1250, the advancements made during this period are akin to the blossoming of wisdom in ancient Greece, or the later European Renaissance. Like ancient Greece and the European Renaissance, the Islamic Golden Age was made possible by a happy coincidence of politics, patronage, and great minds.
      From Camels to Stars in the Middle East
      The Islamic Golden Age was a complex and fascinating period of history that encompassed every area of life and human endeavor. This lecture will provide an overview of this important period by examining the who, what, when, why, and how of the Islamic Golden Age. You will also be introduced in this lecture to several stories, people, and places that will recur throughout the course.
      The scientific advances and cultural achievements that lay at the heart of the Islamic Golden Age spread outward from Baghdad first by migrating across the Abbasid empire, and then to the non- Abbasid corners of the Muslim world. Soon they found their way into non-Muslim lands, thereby advancing the cause of learning in Europe and elsewhere.
      How this brilliant burst of human attainment spread is an important but easily overlooked question. It began in the now long-lost House of Wisdom and the translation movement established by Harun al- Rashid in about the year 786.
      Al-Rashid’s goal-and that of successive caliphs, starting with his son, the caliph al-Mamun-was to translate every manuscript and book of any intellectual worth, regardless of its geographical, cultural, or religious provenance. Consequently, the wisdom of the pagan Greeks was acquired just as greedily as that of Byzantine Christians, Persian Zoroastrians, and Hindus from India. This was a truly enlightened and religious approach to knowledge acquisition on the part of the newly emerged Muslim superpower, the Abbasid caliphate.
      Native Arabic scholarship had itself only recently emerged from its infancy. Fortunately, most caliphs employed the good sense to rely on Jewish, Christian, and other translators in the religious, ethnic, and cultural melting pot that the Middle East had been for millennia.
      The Islamic Golden Age was an essential intellectual bridge between the ancient empires of Greece and Rome and the later European Renaissance that began in Florence during the 14th century. Even the dullest critic is forced to concede that the rebirth of Western European culture did not happen without the rediscovery of Greek and Roman culture. At the same time, the native Muslim scholars and others who brightened the course of the Islamic Golden Age were no mere custodians of earlier empires.
      During the Crusades Christians found Muslims so developed that Christians were seen as barbarians. Eventually Crusaders inspired by higher education of the Muslim world, open the same in the west. Resulting in the first universities.
      European higher education took place for hundreds of years in cathedral schools or monastic schools (scholae monasticae), in which monks and nuns taught classes; evidence of these immediate forerunners of the later university at many places dates back to the 6th century.
      The first universities in Europe with a form of corporate/guild structure were the University of Bologna (1088), the University of Paris (c. 1150, later associated with the Sorbonne), and the University of Oxford (1167).
      Just how significant was Islamic Golden Age you can learn here.
      islamichistory.org/islamic-golden-age/

    • @KrunoslavStifter
      @KrunoslavStifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @YAJUN YUAN "How did priest learn to read and write? "
      What is important to realize is that after the decline of the Western half of Roman Empire, western Europe was for centuries ruled by various barbarian kingdoms, and only thing that unified them to give any sense of stability was Christianity under the guidance of Roman Catholic Church. They all converted to Christianity and there was cooperation between popes and kings.
      Nearly four hundred years after the fall of the Roman Empire, in 800 A.D., Charlemagne or Charles the Great of the Francs, was crowned emperor in 800 a.d. by Pope Leo III, who declared the beginning of a new Holy Roman Empire. It joined a number of kingdoms and territories in central Europe, including Bohemia, Germany, Burgandy, and Italy. Charlemagne’s family held the crown for 88 years, but then a series of civil wars broke out for 80 years over who would rule. The empire re-united in 962 when Otto I was crowned emperor, claiming he was successor to Charlemagne. Thus began the continuous existence of the Holy Roman Empire for eight centuries, until 1806.
      Charlemagne is referred to by some as “the father of Europe.” He is buried in the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Aachen, Germany.
      Charlemagne has been called the "Father of Europe" (Pater Europae), as he united most of Western Europe for the first time since the classical era of the Roman Empire and united parts of Europe that had never been under Frankish or Roman rule. His rule spurred the Carolingian Renaissance, a period of energetic cultural and intellectual activity within the Western Church. Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire considered themselves successors of Charlemagne, as did the French and German monarchs.
      The Eastern Orthodox Church viewed Charlemagne less favorably due to his support of the filioque and the Pope's having preferred him as Emperor over the Byzantine Empire's Irene of Athens. These and other disputes led to the eventual split of Rome and Constantinople in the Great Schism of 1054.
      Before that, for about 400 years in the early medieval times, there was a problem. No unification, so not enough stability. No formal well developed infrastructure, no libraries, no record of other major civilizations, and so western Europe had to figure it out from scratch, and used Bible as the primary source. Church provided the structure and priests spread it to local populations. Around that everything developed. Architecture, thinking about death and life, sin and virtue, morality, years, months , days were based on saints and holy figures etc.
      To your specific question here are some answers by others.
      On Quora Francis Marsden - 38 years a priest. Lived and studied six years in Rome. ... gave this answer:
      "Quite a lot of the ordinary parish clergy were simply apprenticed as boys or young men to the local parish priest. He taught them enough Latin to say the Mass and administer the sacraments correctly. So basically they learnt on the job, in the parish. Maybe they did some study at a local cathedral school or monastery. In the end the bishop would have to examine them and ordain them.
      For this reason, however, the educational level of many priests was not all that high. At least they could read and write, which most of their parishioners were unable to do.
      Then there were the universities, Oxford and Cambridge, founded specifically for the education of clergy, to which bright young men were sent at 14 to do the Trivium and Quadrivium, and then theology and philosophy.
      If they took minor orders only, they might well go into the Civil Service and serve the King. If they were ordained deacons and priests, they were likely to rise in their ecclesiastical positions to the higher clergy. They would be qualified and licensed to preach, which was often not the case with the lower clergy or “massing priests”.
      Religious orders had their own structure, often differentiating between the better educated priest-monks or choir monks, and the lay brothers who did most of the farming and manual work.
      It was to raise the educational level and improve the preparation of priests that the Council of Trent introduced the seminary system. The canon Cum Adolescentium Aetas, adopted during the council's twenty-third session in 1563, made it compulsory for every diocese to erect a seminary for the purpose of educating the local clergy."

    • @KrunoslavStifter
      @KrunoslavStifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @YAJUN YUAN Michael Wright - Former Lecturer at University of Auckland (1981-2003) writes.
      At one level, it’s easy to answer. A priest, as priest, is consecrated to perform the eucharistic service, which in Latin Christianity in the Middle Ages was called the Mass. In all forms of Christianity, this is the most crucial element of the life of the religious community, and for the laity typically forms the weekly focus of their religious experience.
      However, in Latin Christianity, the Mass is seen as not simply a gathering of a community in remembrance of Jesus’ death. It is believed that the actual sacrifice of Jesus is made present again, and in the Middle Ages it was believed that the merits of that passion were made available to be bestowed on some good cause. So, priests would not just say Mass for their parishioners; in one typical role, they offered Masses for the benefit of a soul or souls in Purgatory. You can see the traces of this in large medieval churches, which often have small chantry chapels, built for just this purpose, in the nave of the church. Other churches will have a series of chapels with their own altars around the choir. Priests who said these Masses were, of course, paid.
      We think of a priest, or ordained minister, as having a church and a congregation, and in the Middle Ages many priests had a parish, too. So, they would preach to the members of the parish at Mass. They would hear confessions, and they would offer general spiritual guidance (if they were good priests). This didn’t come for free: a parish priest would be entitled to some portion of the tithes and weekly offerings, and if they were lucky the position entitled them to the use of, or income from, lands. You get a huge range of financial positions: some parishes were so well endowed that priests were given that benefice as a source of income, while they went off and did other stuff; some parishes had only a moderate amount of land, so the priest did a fair bit of practical farming; and some priests were hired by the absentee priests in the first category, to actually do the parish thing, and they were often paid a very small salary, not a lot more than an agricultural labourer.
      In order to be a priest, you had to be able to say the Mass, which was performed in Latin. So you had to have at least some education, and you had to be examined by a bishop and be accepted as being sufficiently educated, and of sufficiently unscandalous life, to be a priest. The standards, especially for poor priests in the more obscure parts of the countryside, could be very low indeed. On the other hand, because formal education was, to a large extent, in the hands of the Church, the path to priesthood could be the best intellectual education the Middle Ages had to offer, and the one most readily open to a boy without much wealth behind him. There would be a parish school, perhaps taught by the local priest, and then the Cathedral school or, from the 12th century onwards, the universities. You didn’t have to be a priest to go to university, but if you had patronage, being priested and given the income of some parish was a way of getting financial support. So you get highly educated people who can be given an income that had no duties to take up their time, who were available to do work in, say, the household of a bishop, which work could be very practical administrative work; and since bishops were both secular rulers in their own right, and were often employed by monarchs as ministers of the crown, there’s a class of priests acting as something like a modern Civil Service.
      All this is a gross oversimplification, and may have inaccuracies, but in general: a relatively large proportion of men in the Middle Ages were priests (I don’t know exactly, and it would vary, but think 1-5% of the population); they might be near the centre of an urban or religious community, with a church building for religious and other communal purposes; or they might be the spiritual advisers and guides of the wealthy, who could afford a chaplain; or they might be employed in one or other of the knowledge industries. They might be rich, or they might be dirt poor. They might be learned, or they might be ignorant and credulous. They might be of great piety, or they might be cynically self-indulgent. But they were everywhere.
      Notes:
      The Mass, or eucharist, or communion. Famously, the question of what goes on here is one of the most divisive in Christianity. Some see the eucharist as a purely commemorative event, others regard the body and blood of Christ as really present. The latter was the belief in the Middle Ages, and there are miracle stories of people seeing the communion bread bleeding told to confirm that belief. How the real presence happened was a topic of a lot of philosophical enquiry, and the notion of trans-substantiation is only one of the answers proposed. The central fact about a priest is that he had the ability to cause this miracle to happen.
      Education. In the early Middle Ages, most formal education happened in the religious houses (monasteries, etc.), which had the consequence that women had the ability to participate in the highest levels of intellectual activity. As the universities became the centre of learning, women faced a new barrier, since by and large women weren’t admitted to universities. Most universities were ecclesiastical entities, but there were a few that were secular (e.g. Bologna), set up to study law or medicine. In general, education in the law, and less commonly medicine, was the only high-level secular education going, though the University of Oxford had courses in farm management in the Middle Ages.
      Priests were men. One of the attractions of the new styles of Christianity that rose in the later Middle Ages was that they sometimes gave women a chance to be leaders.

    • @huntz0r
      @huntz0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And even more than this, there is no one “original text” but multiple textual traditions so that you have to choose one, or mix and match parts of some with others. Between different texts and different canons the “sola scriptura” runs into the problem of it not being obvious what you mean by “scriptura”.
      What ends up happening is that the text and canon is circumscribed to fit a theology; so you de-canonize books or redact pericopes that suggest things you’ve deemed “unbiblical” on the basis they aren’t in the Bible even though they are written there, but that text can’t be part of the Bible because it says something unbiblical... (....) sigh, lol.

    • @KrunoslavStifter
      @KrunoslavStifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@huntz0r Yes, you are correct. Unlike Muslims with their tradition of accurately coping the Qurʾān, Christians always lacked that kind of precision and hence Bible was changed from each branch of Christianity, some Early Christian beliefs were left out, some new ones were added and often mixed with other influences. Plus there are translations that are not 100% accurate. King James Bible, has few mistakes in translation that I even know.
      There are plenty of misquotations from the Bible, take your pick which one.
      Probably the most famous one is "God helps those who help themselves."
      The earliest recording of this saying is actually from Aesop’s fable "Hercules and the Waggoner." A man’s wagon got stuck in a muddy road, and he prayed for Hercules to help. Hercules appeared and said, "Get up and put your shoulder to the wheel." The moral given was "The gods help them that help themselves." Aesop was a Greek writer who lived from 620 to 564 BC, but obviously did not contribute to the Bible. As a biblical truism, the proverb has mixed results. We can do nothing to help when it comes to salvation; salvation is through Christ alone. In the work of sanctification-becoming more spiritually mature-we are to join in the work. 1 Peter 1:14-15 says, "As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior."
      Arab version of this is:
      Trust in Allah, but tie your camel.
      -Arabian proverb
      In other words: “There may be fairies, there may be elves, but God helps those who help themselves.” ― Stephen King, Misery
      So clearly some things are part of culture but not nesecerally in any of the Bible even if they are often though they originated from it.
      "Hate the sin, love the sinner."
      "Although this is a biblical-sounding admonition, it is not directly from the Bible. It’s actually a loose quote of something Mahatma Gandhi wrote in 1929, “Hate the sin and not the sinner.” Augustine expressed a similar thought back in AD 424: “With love for mankind and hatred of sins.” The biblical principle backing this up is found in Jude 1:22-23. We are to hate sin-even our own. And we are to show love to other people. The “hating sin” part is coming under fire today as more and more people define themselves by their sin and resent the guidelines God has given us in His Word."
      www.gotquestions.org/not-in-the-Bible.html

  • @Erick_Ybarra
    @Erick_Ybarra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You keep getting better at what you do. Keep it up!

    • @believewithyourheart5627
      @believewithyourheart5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen!

    • @nickynolfi833
      @nickynolfi833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Erick I love listening to your stuff. Especially your conversation on penal substitution, and the other one on indulgences. I started a new podcast called the Catholic OCD podcast and would love to have you on to talk about penal substitution

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Erick, means a lot!

  • @victormossiii1196
    @victormossiii1196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done Austin! Just like the "5 bad arguments against for Catholicism", I will share my thoughts. A lot of these arguments are used by denominations that ascribe to some sort fundamentalist teaching or something like it. Many of these arguments are seen as irrational once researched. I am not saying there can not be some reasonable disagreement as in the by Dr. Ortlund, but most of the arguments I have found against Catholicism and Orthodoxy from a Sola Scriptura perspective is just silly. Many of the people who presents them with a snarky and pompous attitude. I turn off and tune out when it happened in the past. A little bit about my story. After some experience with churches and some personally research into Church History, I was moving towards a more Catholic -Centric point of view. Some members of my family moved towards a fundamentalist mixed with conspiratorial point of view. Through the years I have traveled to Latin America for mission trips, studies of Spanish, and work: teaching English. The Catholic Church is stronger here than the Anglican Catholic denominations and Orthodox Churches (in which I love and respect all of them). I knew God was leading me to the Catholic Church. Many of the Protestant/Evangelical/Pentecostal/Charismatic all have a mindset of going after Catholics. I was pulled the opposite direction. I am not saying God has not called people in different directions. Until God fully unifies the Body of Christ, there will always be inperfections. By the way, my story is much longer and in-depth; this is just the comment section version!👍😂

  • @jacoblaan3707
    @jacoblaan3707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for your presentation. I appreciate this as a Catholic.

  • @TheAndreas1008
    @TheAndreas1008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another awesome one hittin' the YT inbox! Thank you for what you do:) It would be interesting to hear 5 of the best arguments for/against Catholicism. It would also help viewers dig deeper in very relevant discussions.

  • @dolphinshark3202
    @dolphinshark3202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wouldn't praying in front of a shrine of Mary and adorning the statue of her with rosary's, candles, and flowers and bowing before it and praying toward it be considered worship? Worship is defined as deep devotion, adoration, and reverence toward a being.

    • @srich7503
      @srich7503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greetings! True worship comes from the heart. Can you say that any one who is doing anything to Mary is actually putting her above her son in their heart? Do you know their heart, no matter what words are used to describe the act?

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, apparently that's no worship. Even though the commandment against idolatry describes all those elements that are forbidden, and even though it looks exactly what what is forbidden in an express commandment, it is said to not be that. I don't understand it either?

  • @believewithyourheart5627
    @believewithyourheart5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m not sure if I’m catholic or Protestant! All I know is that I believe the Gospel! And that Jesus is Lord! The rest is a wonderful adventure 🤗

    • @wbl5649
      @wbl5649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed...and in the end all these "denominations" might all be called traditions of men...Jesus is not going to judge you based on what denomination you belonged to...

  • @saintejeannedarc9460
    @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you show a gracious example of Christianity, outside the Catholic and Orthodox traditions. Jesus is more than able to keep us and ground us in the word, and to make us fruitful branches.

  • @treycastle9119
    @treycastle9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I noticed you said Catholic “adoration” for Mary but I wanted to point out that “adoration” is a theological term the Church uses only in reference to God. The Church used to distinguish adoration and worship this way but nowadays worship is often put in place of adoration and it gets confusing. However “worship” means “to acknowledge worth” which you can find some reference to in old church documents being used toward saints and even Mary. The Church has always left adoration or “divine worship” as due to God alone though. Nice video!

    • @timee3221
      @timee3221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's funny because when you read older texts they will write that they "worship" Mary and "adore" God and be totally orthodox about it, and today the words have just switched meaning

    • @kathleentiernan668
      @kathleentiernan668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timee3221 , adoration and worship is for God alone, we honor and praise Mary and ask for her intercession in prayer..

    • @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
      @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha the catholic sympathizer who simultaneously refuses to be catholic just said you worship Mary. #itstrue

    • @treycastle9119
      @treycastle9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timee3221 exactly

    • @treycastle9119
      @treycastle9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kathleentiernan668 I don’t think you understand what we were saying. May want to reread everything slowly again :)

  • @christinebravomom5711
    @christinebravomom5711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One way to get a glimpse of how the Eucharistic sacrifice works is to imagine you're at the southern tip of Florida and you wade into the ocean. Then you drive north for a day and wade into the ocean, then you drive north another day and wade into the ocean. You could continue this all the way up the East Coast. Each day, you would be in a different place and time, but you would wade into the same ocean. Similarly, each Mass is at a different place and time, yet "wades" into that one ocean of Jesus' eternal sacrifice.

  • @lukebrown5395
    @lukebrown5395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t think I commented already but look why should Protestants get their information from other Protestants about Catholics? Other than you Austin ( I think that’s your name)I don’t know if there’s any others who would say positive things. To all the anti Catholics who will see this. This needed to be said, because the lies need to stop. All these misconceptions are wrong. We Catholics love you guys and would love to share the real truth about the Catholic Church. You just need to be able to open your hearts to what we have to say. These anti Catholic lies aren’t drawing me to learn about Protestantism. I’ll get you started. Mary’s role as Co Redemptri? Well, she was chosen to carry Jesus as a baby. So because she said yes to that, that’s why shes Co Redemptrix not because she was the fourth person crucified. I’m free to answer any misconception you guys have or you can take it from one of the experienced Catholic TH-camrs. The truth may be difficult, but if you honestly ask a knowledgeable Catholic we will share with you.

  • @1Hope4All
    @1Hope4All 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As far as Catholics "re-sacrificing" Jesus, which of course is not true, that would be *each day* not "each week" as you stated, because we have Mass every single day of the week and not just on Sundays. The only day that we do not have Mass is on Good Friday.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very true!

    • @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
      @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait, on the one day that he made the sacrifice you don't have mass? that makes no sense

    • @KS-ty4ek
      @KS-ty4ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, we don't have mass on Good Friday. We pray the Stations of the Cross. The altar is stripped bare and Good Friday is seen as a day of mourning

    • @quickrat3348
      @quickrat3348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr We go to the Church and listen to the Scriptures on how Christ was killed. But the Eucharist is not there, since Christ is dead. Then on Good Sunday we have a new mass, with Eucharist, so we celebrate He is back.
      The Eucharist is not just the sacrifice, it is also Jesus being present.

    • @natmmeyer
      @natmmeyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr grasping at straws

  • @ahwhite2022
    @ahwhite2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it interesting that the first 4 apply equally to Orthodoxy, yet the crowd that is most inclined to use those arguments seems also most inclined to argue that Catholicism was essentially developed the early middle ages as the Papacy matured and that the earlier Church lacked any assertion of such authority from Rome. I have to wonder if these people know anything about Orthodox theology and practices. Rationally, it seems one would have to acknowledge either that those practices are common to all apostolic traditions and have nothing to do with "Roman corruption" or take a position that requires the Bishop of Rome to have had more influence on the early Church than even any Catholic would try to claim.

  • @dianeroberge1296
    @dianeroberge1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Sacrifice of Mass is much much more than just a re-presentation. The word Sacrifice is important.

    • @takmaps
      @takmaps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @YAJUN YUAN let Jesus tell you more John Chapter 6:53-58

    • @jotunman627
      @jotunman627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didache (90AD) "The Lord's Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles" - the earliest written catechism.
      The Lords instruction on how to worship Him on the Lords Day: (Mass and the Holy Euchaist)
      "On the Lord's Day gather together, break bread and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure. Let no one who has a quarrel with his neighbor join you until he is reconciled by the Lord. In every place and time let there be offered to me a clean sacrifice."

    • @jotunman627
      @jotunman627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      St. Alphonsus Ligouri in his Discourses on the Mass and Office. He wrote:
      “A single Mass gives more honor to God than can ever be given to Him by all the prayers and austerities of the saints, all the labors and fatigues of the Apostles, all the torments of the martyrs, and all the adoration's of the Seraphim, and of the Mother of God.”

    • @jotunman627
      @jotunman627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @YAJUN YUAN The mass and the eucharist is the center of early Christian worship not the sermon.
      The bible was made canon in 382AD and was not accessible to common man until way after the invention of the printing press in 1455AD.
      Except for the rich and clergy, man was illiterate for more than 1500 years. - It's not so easy to be literate when the only books are at the church and they are written in Latin.
      The scriptures was heard in mass at church and not read for most of history.
      St. Ignatius of Antioch (110 A.D.):
      "They (Gnostics) abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist it the flesh of our savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again."
      St. Irenaeus of Lyons (140 - 202 A.D.):
      "…He took from among creation that which is bread, and gave thanks, saying, "This is my body." The cup likewise, which is from among the creation to which we belong, He confess to be his blood"
      St. Justin Martyr 155AD:
      “…in every place offer sacrifices to Him, i.e., the bread of the Eucharist, and also the cup of the Eucharist, affirming both that we glorify His name….”
      St, Augustine (354-430):
      "What you see is the bread and the chalice; that is what your own eyes report to you. But what your faith obliges you to accept is that the bread is the body of Christ and the wine is the blood of Christ"

    • @Fasolislithuan
      @Fasolislithuan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yajun is an obsessive follower of catholic vídeos. He is adventist. Adventism is antitrinitarian christianism and therefore false christianity.

  • @alejandrab174
    @alejandrab174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thomas Aquinas in the summa used the best arguments against Catholicism but obviously counteracted them very well.

  • @fighterxaos1
    @fighterxaos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to have to hit the bell icon. I didn't see this in my sub box or recommendations. I was looking forward to this. Glad I see it now than later though.I grew up believing a lot of these bad arguments. While I appreciate being raised to love the Bible and to hear God's word and study it, I also was unfortunately instilled with a lot of anti-Catholic rhetoric that I've only recently in the past two years or so have been shedding and I have to say at least part of it is thanks to this channel and Ten Minute Bible Hour.

  • @ZZZELCH
    @ZZZELCH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought this was well done. We should definitely be working together across faiths to better understand and assist our world.
    Your Orthodox brother in Christ.

  • @jimmieoakland3843
    @jimmieoakland3843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Catholic, I am always surprised how much Protestants know about the Catholic church, and how much energy they expend trying to refute it. I suppose it is a compliment in a way, because it affirms the central importance of the Church. I rarely see any videos of Protestants of one denomination going after another Protestant church, although I understand that their theologies can be very different. While I have heard priests give sermons defending Catholic doctrine, I have never heard one go after Protestants to explain why they are wrong. I don't know why. Maybe Catholics are just more comfortable playing defense than offense, because they have a lot more practice doing it.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think I've ever heard a protestant pastor ever bring up Catholicism in a sermon. I've seen some protestant channels cover Catholic doctrine. Sometimes it is very fairly covered, attempting to explain it properly, before refuting points of doctrine or dogma they don't agree w/. Pastors, RC Spraoul, Gavin Ortlund and Mike Winger would be more gracious examples. Someone like Spencer Smith is an ungracious example. I've seen a plethora of Catholic channels go after protestants, very often undermining the authority of the holy bible to do it. In practice, Catholics are supposed to believe the church is equal to sacred scripture, but in practice, in videos like this, it would seem to be above scripture.

  • @mcnzefili
    @mcnzefili ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard these arguments too many times and never saw them to hold water at all, but after listening to you, I can really see they are worse arguments than I already thought.

  • @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese
    @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The 5 Solas are the official worst arguments of all time.

    • @j.g.4942
      @j.g.4942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're so bad they were only cobbled together in the last 100 years and no one can agree on ow many there are

    • @Hoodinator17
      @Hoodinator17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Solas aren’t even in the Bible 😂😂
      It’s funny

    • @Hoodinator17
      @Hoodinator17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @YAJUN YUAN show me sola scriptura in the Bible 😅🥹

    • @takmaps
      @takmaps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @YAJUN YUAN sadly the SDA theology has no legs to stand on

    • @danielroberts6328
      @danielroberts6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 5 Solas are not an argument, they are a statement of faith.
      Sola Gratia: Salvation is by grace alone (Catholics can agree with this one)
      Sola Fide: Through faith alone (Only a disagreement based on whether you define faith as simply blind belief or as intimate trust that expresses itself in action)
      Solus Christus: In Christ alone (Catholics can also agree with this one)
      Sola Scriptura: According to scripture alone (the main disagreement between Protestants and Catholics, whether the church has the final authority or whether the written testimony of the apostles has the final authority)
      Soli Deo Gloria: For the glory of God alone (Catholics can also agree with this one)

  • @cw-on-yt
    @cw-on-yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    @Gospel Simplicity:
    Austin, I love your stuff, you're a one of my favorite listens on TH-cam.
    One eeenie-weenie little quibble: At 4:99, when discussing whether Catholic practices and beliefs re: Mary "cross the line" (into the worship due only to God), I'm afraid you used the word "adoration," as follows: "Whether you think that Catholic adoration of Mary crosses the line...."
    Aaaand, I bet you already know what I'm going to say next, don't you? In traditional English-language terminology used by theologians to distinguish between "respect permissible for human persons, especially persons revered for holiness" and "the worship due only to God," the term "veneration" is used for the FORMER (that is, appropriate for humans) and the term "adoration" is used for the LATTER (which is only permissible for God).
    So by saying, "Whether you think that the Catholic adoration of Mary crosses the line [into treating her like God]" you were saying, "Whether you think that the Catholic (respect for Mary which crosses the line into treating her like God) crosses the line...!"
    I'm totally aware that's not what you intended. I'm totally aware you understand the substance of the matter, since right after that you went to the distinction between dulia and latria.
    So this is an eeenie-weenie little quibble, an almost-nothing, as previously stated. This was a great video, as usual with your stuff!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good catch! I do these videos in one take without notes, and that often gets me in trouble :)

    • @huntz0r
      @huntz0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We should probably get away from insisting too hard on particular definitions of particular words. Adoration as a word in English has more than one meaning. So does worship. Adoration can be the feeling I have for my spouse, and worship can be an honorific (as when calling a judge “Your Worship”).
      I may fall down in worship before an icon but not be *worshipping* the icon. The word is used this way at times in English Bibles in contexts that would lead you to believe idolatry is going on if you stuck rigidly to the definition of “worship” as that which we offer only to God.
      There are higher and lower forms of worship (especially understanding worship as a high form of attention) and the highest form is reserved for God, but we give lower forms to the Mother of God, the saints, angels, even principles like beauty. The important thing is that we get the order correct, not only having God at the top, but other things in their proper place within the hierarchy.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even though the official position of the church may be that adoration is to God, and veneration is to Mary, I still see Catholics use adoration language for Mary. I see it in comments fairly often, but even a simple search brings up high profile Catholics w/ published works doing it. An example is a title in The National Catholic Register: "Adoring Christ With Mary: Eucharistic Devotion and the Mother of God". This is published in a popular Catholic site, that I've referenced a number of times. Another book title popped up from a Polish Catholic, "I Abandon My Heart to God: Prayers adoring Christ with Mary, Our Lady of Good Help". So is this really a misstep on protestant's part, because we seem to be picking it up from valid sources?

    • @cw-on-yt
      @cw-on-yt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saintejeannedarc9460: In both of the examples you gave, the adoration is towards Christ, not Mary. In each case, Mary is adoring Christ _with us._ (It's not some special theological usage; the phrase "with Mary" means what it normally means in English.) Consider: If I am polishing my car with Mary, it means we're both waxing and buffing, and _the car_ (not Mary) is getting shiny. Likewise, if I am adoring Christ with Mary, it means we are _both_ worshipping the second person of the Trinity and _He_ (not Mary) is getting adored and receiving sacrifice.
      So, to answer your question directly: Yes, I think that was a misstep on the protestant's part: Your inclination was to be hyper-vigilant* for a hidden meaning that never occurred to the Catholics who wrote that verbiage.
      BTW, in Latin you would not have been able to have that misunderstanding: The different word-endings would make it clear that Christ was the direct-object of the verb "to adore," and Mary was not. So, your ability to misunderstand this phrasing isn't _solely_ over-sensitivity on your part; it's also a symptom of English grammar.
      Make sense?
      *** I can relate to that hyper-vigilance. I grew up a Protestant, focused on the Protestant-apologetics world. I really didn't give serious examination Catholicism until age 35, and my initial reactions to Marian phraseology were _very_ negative.
      But it was the issue of _authority_ and _how we come to know_ the doctrine and practices of Christianity that yanked my upbringing out from under me. I found that the Epistemology of Faith implied by Protestantism was unworkable and indefensible from an apologetics perspective. I became convinced that _either_ Jesus did not intend Sola Scriptura; or, if He did, then He was too ignorant-of-humans to be God.
      But He rose from the dead! Therefore He is God. Therefore He _didn't_ intend Sola Scriptura to be Christians' resource for knowing the content of the Christian religion. That was my first firm conclusion. But what did that mean, vis-a-vis the churches and denominations?
      Well, all the currently-extant Protestant churches practiced some version of Sola Scriptura. (I'm excluding a few unserious liberal ones that just made stuff up as they went and acknowledged no reliable divine revelation whatsoever; these I disregarded out-of-hand.)
      If therefore, Christianity was not a _lost religion,_ it had to be found outside Protestantism, either in Catholicism or one of the Orthodoxies. But the divisions among the Orthodoxies turned out to be fundamentally the same epistemic problem, carried out at an episcopal or synodal level. That left Catholicism as the only remaining option, other than denying Christ.
      So, I was compelled to learn more about Catholicism and the history of Christianity from the end of the Apostolic age, through the Middle Ages, and past the Reformation. And _this_ led me to discover that my aversion to flowery-sounding Marian language was related to my aversion to flowery-sounding expressions of "courtly love" and "fealty to a feudal lord" we see in medieval _chanson_ and other expressions of Middle-Ages culture! It was hierarchical and medieval, whereas I personally am American, bred to take "all men are created equal" as a dogma! My _culture_ finds this earlier culture repellent, because it is _in a state of reaction against_ that culture.
      If you, like me, are a 20th/21st century American, then you are raised to call the _President of the United States_ nothing more than "Mr. President." But a medieval person would have been accustomed to address _even his local magistrate_ in far-more flowery terms: Things _we_ would describe as "flattering to the point of obsequious, and emotionally overwrought." Their "polite nothings," to us, sound like the words of a psycho stalker.
      So, when you encounter Catholics getting misty-eyed over Mary, ask yourself: "Are they just parroting prayers and devotional terms invented in a very different age?" And also ask yourself: "If a medieval Christian heard _me_ talk about Christ the way I do, would he be shocked at how coldly disrespectful I was to the Lord I claimed to adore?" Cultural misunderstandings can flow in _either_ direction!
      Food for thought.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cw-on-yt Well thanks for the amusing image of polishing your car w/ Mother Mary. Yes, I suppose that does make sense, otherwise it might read Adoration of Christ And Mary, to read the way I first took it. Yes, I'm a bit hypervigilant and not used to the way Catholics talk about and pray to Mary. I'm used to it enough, but not in my own practice.
      That's also far more charitable an explanation than I got from another Catholic who came rather unhinged and accused my of attacking the RCC and lying about it. I do just disengage from such encounters, because I'm fairly sure it was clear enough, that was not my tenor or intent. So thanks for your graciousness.
      The thing is though, I did read the article in the National Catholic Register. The author said that he believed Mary was also present in the Eucharist. I don't think this is conventional Catholic doctrine and that seemed, well, extreme. He is a Polish author, and perhaps that is the difference. Mariology in N. America is toned down, compared to other places where it does reach extremes I've heard some Catholics be uncomfortable w/. This was a N. American site this article was published in though, so I was startled to see that, as I've read that site a number of times and it has seemed a well balanced Christian site before, even if I don't agree w/ all of Catholic theology.
      As for sola scriptura, I'm still fully onboard. God's word is eternal and infallible. The church is temporal and not infallible, so I can't see the church as equal to the word.

  • @sherrywhite1517
    @sherrywhite1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Catholics do not "adore" Mary; they "venerate" her....Adoration is reserved for The Holy Trinity alone. We honor Our Mother for who she is and what she has done. God bless

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      That adoration that is said to be only for Christ does still spill over when Catholics talk about Mary. Here's a shocking title then, in the National Catholic Register: Adoring Christ With Mary: Eucharistic Devotion and the Mother of God.
      Here's an excerpt of that article, where the author claims Mary is also present in the Eucharist. "Ciołkiewicz said. “Adoration is a time when I engage in dialogue with God. I feel that wherever Christ is present in the Eucharist, Mary is present, as well. She is my guide. Adoration is the source of my inner peace..."

    • @alhilford2345
      @alhilford2345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@saintejeannedarc9460:
      I wonder if you actually read those articles that you refer to.
      I doubt it!
      "...Adoring Christ with Mary..."?
      Yes. Catholics pray (ask) the Mother of God to be with us as we adore her Son.
      "...Mary is present..."?
      Yes. His mother was present at the foot of the cross at Calvary, and the Eucharist is the Sacrifice of Calvary.
      Nobody ever claims that Mary is physically present at the Mass, but I suspect that that is what you're trying to claim.
      Read the articles and see for yourself.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alhilford2345 It's rude to presume. I gave excerpts, which I thought were most relevant. Which you might realize is hard to do, if I hadn't read the article. I read a few articles on this. Anyway, I had an indepth discussion w/ another Catholic on this awhile back and we sorted out some issues on this.

  • @Mouthwash019283
    @Mouthwash019283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mike Winger will feature! (maybe not by name, but...)

  • @RogerCanda
    @RogerCanda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Protestants have problem with Rituals… well most early surviving Churches have “that” rituals. Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic etc. Even oldest protestants also have that rituals.. Anglican, Lutheran, so as Austin said, a bad argument.

    • @takmaps
      @takmaps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @YAJUN YUAN Intriguing do you also squibble at wedding rings, or is your double standard too blinding to realise this ancient Egyptian pagan ritual?

  • @Troy-Moses
    @Troy-Moses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Our Protestant friends, however, do make _great_ arguments against each other, as their 500-year effort of defining the Faith has made no progress whatsoever -- like a dog chasing its tail. Who can define what is Protestantism? It is like trying to hit a moving target. Our dear friends need to be honest and look into the "mirror" and admit that there is something seriously deficient in their theology for there to be such widespread discord: Crooked foundation -- crooked building. Please pray to Jesus for wisdom and guidance concerning this.

    • @JohnVianneyPatron
      @JohnVianneyPatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually Luther himself thought the splintering of Protestant groups was a massive scandal to reformation efforts. Things have only gotten worse since.

    • @Troy-Moses
      @Troy-Moses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnVianneyPatron And every Protestant should agree... So if Protestantism is a scandal, what is the solution?

    • @jotunman627
      @jotunman627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnVianneyPatron true, some people even threw away the churches and the rules and some just drifted out of Christianity

    • @sproutfire8878
      @sproutfire8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said.

    • @ahwhite2022
      @ahwhite2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The splintering actually seems to help with certain denial aspects. It's easy to point fingers at, say, the Catholics, when you can literally avoid any introspection or accountability for your own faith tradition by just applying the ol' "No True Scotsman" logic. It's like, "sure that preacher got caught up in a scandal of drugs and underage male prostitutes, and sure we just had him at our Church as a guest speaker last year, but he's not one of us. He's clearly from one of those other groups that haven't figured it all out like we have."

  • @npickard4218
    @npickard4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The argument that, "Catholics don't read the Bible," is one that I've heard frequently too but I find it to be utterly disrespectful of Catholics. I'm Jewish looking at Christianity and I can provide numerous Biblical proofs as to why Jesus was not the Messiah. I realize that I will NEVER change a Christian's mind so I keep my thoughts to myself BUT I could easily say, "Christians don't read the Bible," but that would be disrespectful. Because a religion or strain of a religion sees something differently does not warrant the charge, "______ don't read the Bible." Honestly, I don't know how such simple-minded people get through life without being corrected constantly.

  • @bradcope9255
    @bradcope9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To your last point, according to the statistics, a child is more likely to get abused by a public school teacher than a Catholic Priest, but I think most people would agree it would be ridiculous to blame the entire school system

  • @catholicfemininity2126
    @catholicfemininity2126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Catholic speaker once asked "Are you a follower or Jesus, or just a fan?"
    Also, how do you know your religion is the truth? A follower will make SURE he's in the right spot, and not get complacent.

  • @oldscorp
    @oldscorp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Catholics, protestants, and orthodox, ALL SACRIFICE Jesus each DAY, let alone week, every time they sin. Catholics and orthodox acknowledge and appreciate that each week during the liturgy, but from God's perspective, Who is timeless, there is no difference between 2000 years ago and any number of billion years from now. He has been outside of time when He created it, when He was suffering on the cross, and will be outside of time when time ends. With that in mind Jesus suffering the cross for our sins, means we crucify Him every time we think someone is an idiot when they pass us by on the street, wearing something we don't approve of.

  • @IamValentina66
    @IamValentina66 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it is interesting that people accuse Catholics of practicing meaningless rituals considering Jesus was a Jew-born a Jew and died a Jew-which is a religion that is totally filled with ritual. He practiced rituals every minute of every day. He did not think rituals were meaningless. He did not come to get rid of rituals. He came to clarify the meanings of them. Saying Grace before meals is a ritual. It adds meaning to the blessedness of having food to eat. Going to church is a ritual. All people have rituals in their lives. Singing happy birthday is a ritual. Graduation ceremonies are rituals. Rituals are useful on so many levels. Visiting a loved ones grave is a ritual. As a cradle Catholic there are many things I disagree with and fought against, but ritual is not one of them.

  • @kisstune
    @kisstune 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for the defense. It is sad because those outside looking in at Christianity see it and question the validity of Christianity and avoid Christianity and the love of God and Jesus because of those kinds of things. Examples I've heard and seen were literally calling Mary lilith and another called her ishtar? How confusing is that to an outsider that needs Evangilzation supposed to think and ultimately what is that saying about all of Christianity?

  • @enrique7205
    @enrique7205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Austin. I enjoy watching your videos because you are very genuine in you approach into looking into Catholicism even Orthodoxy. By any chance have you ever heard of the Material Sufficiency vs Partim Partim perspective. I think any Christian should look into this issue because not too many people know about it, though it is a very serious topic that everyone especially Catholics should know about. The best explanation of Material sufficiency I got was from Michael Lofton from Reason & Theology. Its definitely something Catholic and Orthodox should know about, because it opens up another perspective that has big implications on one’s understanding of Catholicism and even Orthodoxy. I think anyone who’s interested should check it out along with the video on different types of Tradition. Thank You.

  • @johnnyg.5499
    @johnnyg.5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a long-time fan of your presentations, Austin. This one ranks among THE BEST in my opinion!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Johnny! That's really helpful feedback

  • @hollypepen4012
    @hollypepen4012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Catholic here. Thanks, Austin, for making this video. Your last point with church hurt and poor witness of other Christians resonated with me. I've known too many people who left Jesus because of Judas 💔

  • @ohmightywez
    @ohmightywez ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video, Austin. You’re such a sincere young man and I’ve been praying for that you live out God’s will in your life as you discern your vocation (beyond the calling of husband which you have already decided on). I’ve watched you since the video where you went to the men’s Catholic Bible Study and I’ve been following your journey ever since. May God bless you as you continue to grow and learn.
    You often bring up a new perspective or a new theological line of thought for me to delve into.
    Thank you!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for your kind words and your prayers. That truly means a lot to me. God bless!

  • @row1landr
    @row1landr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea, unfortunately, I just had a focus on the family person tell me to go to hell because I'm Catholic. I know that this not nice person's bad judgment is not what that foundation stands for, but I was turned off by his bad judgment. If you are a Christian, you shouldn't want anyone to go to hell and you definitely shouldn't damn someone to hell. We just need to pray for those folks.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bless you for being more gracious and knowing this person needs prayer. They are obviously weak and unstable in their faith.

  • @supreme87878
    @supreme87878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If because scandals in the church make it untrue then are we saying that because of the betrayal of Judas Jesus is untrue?

  • @lawrence4318
    @lawrence4318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Austin, thank you for your objective stand on issues that tragically separate us. You are on a courageous quest for truth..it is plain to see. Stay the course.

  • @standforfreedom5264
    @standforfreedom5264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Time to come home brother!!! Join the One True Faith !! You already are a great Catholic!!
    Many blessings on your wedding day!!

    • @JohnVianneyPatron
      @JohnVianneyPatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's graduated and been married for about a month already, hope he's had a happy honeymoon. [Didn't you notice the haircut? 😅].

  • @MissingTrails
    @MissingTrails 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On #4: At my conservative Presbyterian church, we carry out the service in a very ordered manner. Every week, everything is done in the exact same order. There is a certain reading here, and a doxology there, a time of silent reflection and confession in the middle, etc (with an essay-like sermon taking up the largest portion of time). Once a month, the order changes to incorporate the Lord's Supper. This church is very Protestant, and of course flagrantly Reformed, for better or worse. Yet, it has the bones of liturgy and ritual, and nobody complains that it is empty.

  • @carolhannah4635
    @carolhannah4635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exactly Austin, argue and discuss with others in love and hopefully encourage others to at least be curious about the faith and look into it. God bless.

  • @JohnVianneyPatron
    @JohnVianneyPatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Catholics aren't Christian", because: we've changed the Bible/ we believe in auricular confession / we are not "born again"/we call our ministers "Father" / we pray repetitively (such as the rosary) / we pray to the dead / our sacramental system means that we need men as our mediators before God/ we follow the Pope rather than Christ/ the Pope has kissed the Koran, etc. etc. etc.
    It can be observed that there is significant animus toward Catholicism but not the other way around. I think this is because it is only Catholics who have a Rule of Faith. We are clear about what we believe and we believe it universally. Ask one protestant pastor a question and you will get one answer. Ask the same question to a different pastor and you will very well receive a different answer. Whereas all Catholic Priests around the world should give you the same answer. It's this uniformity of belief that provides the opportunity/incentive for anti-Catholic rhetoric. We are figuratively "sitting ducks".

    • @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
      @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did you become born again?

    • @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
      @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @YAJUN YUAN True, many doctrines that came centuries if not 1000 years later despite the bible's warnings

    • @jotunman627
      @jotunman627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satan is known as the accuser. He accuses the church of many things.
      It is the church that Satan hates the most, the Catholic church.
      Our conscience is the voice of God echoing in our depths.
      This is why the world is so angry at the Catholic Church-we remind them of what God says.
      If Catholic teachings were merely regarded as outdated opinions, the world would not hate the church.
      No matter how emphatically people deny that their conscience troubles them, deep down they know better.
      They are forever insisting that the Church change her old fashioned teachings.
      Why do they care what the church teach? Because deep down they know that it is right and do not like to be reminded of it.
      Catholic churches are vandalized with spray-painted profane messages by abortion-rights advocates/
      A magazine of The Atlantic's stature published a rabble-rousing article entitled “How the Rosary Became an Extremist Symbol,” A hysterical anti-Catholic article against the rosary.
      The enemies of God know who they are dealing with.
      “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its".

    • @JohnVianneyPatron
      @JohnVianneyPatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @YAJUN YUAN So you think that William Miller, James White and Ellen White are your "deposit of faith"???

    • @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
      @Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marym.338 So no need to worry about being born again - it's already taken care of when you're a baby! The best way to keep you from something is to tell them it's already done.

  • @ANGAR0NE
    @ANGAR0NE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very Good Austin, I think you made your homework this time. What I can add and most of our brothers in Christ don't know is that if you go to a daily Mass during 3 and a half years you will hear almost the whole Bible on the readings and Gospels
    We have a system that cycle and we don't repeat readings that last 3.5 and in the homily the priest talk about how this readings (Bible) fit in our now days life.
    So we are not just reading the Bible if you are attending to Mass but also applying to this day. Also is very true, every avrage Catholic die of love for our protestant brothers and want to share salvation with you, And I think is the main reason they are here in your channel to see you knowing our true faith.
    When the time comes if it comes, don't be afraid to follow Catholisism, God will take care of you. God will judge you according to your knowledge and how you follow truth. Blessing.

  • @ilonkastille2993
    @ilonkastille2993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can give a lot of comments on each of the 5 points but that needs time and I don’t have that at this moment. I will say something about accusation number 5 though.
    It only proves how brainwashed people are. 1. There is a lot of child abuse in protestant churches , schools, etc. But the media is not interested in that.
    The MOST important thing which is NOT mentioned is that the Teaching of the Catholic Church abhors abuse of children first of all and of anybody else as well. Therefore those who do abuse are NOT following the teaching of the Church but are Faithless themselves and a scandal to the Church.

  • @dave_ecclectic
    @dave_ecclectic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #1 The Bible does say that all generations will call her blessed. Do you? Or do you reduce her down to nothing more than a container, something you wouldn't do to your own mother.
    #2 Protestants re-sacrifice Jesus each time they sin. Apply the answer to #2.
    #3 Even if this were true it still doesn't matter. The point of reading the Bible is to live your life a certain way. If you live your life according to the Bible, that is the goal. Besides it is read during the Mass. The NT was written *after* there were Christians.
    #4 I would need the example of the *empty* part of the ritual. Did the Jews practice empty ritual during Passover?
    I would also like to point out that the Christians persecuted by the Romans could have avoided persecution simply by performing an _empty_ ritual.
    #5 is a hypocritical accusation.
    Frank Houston
    Rodney Luffman
    Jimmy Jones
    John Calvin

  • @robertopacheco2997
    @robertopacheco2997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd say get out your Strong's and look up biblical references to words like "honor" or "respect." These twin concepts pretty much encapsulate the Catholic teaching on "dulia." Is it wrong to honor your parents or church leaders?

  • @manorama12
    @manorama12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍👍👍 some of the best & on fire defenders of Catholicism are the converted Protestants. This is called divine intervention 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @Mygoalwogel
      @Mygoalwogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of the best defenders of Orthodoxy are the converted Catholics.
      Some of the best defenders of Lutheranism are converted Calvinists.
      Some of the best defenders of ___ are converted ___.
      Pretty much any two partisan nouns work.

  • @robertwaguespack9414
    @robertwaguespack9414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was a child I was told that because we were catholic we were a kind of black people and therefore all the bad words they called black people they called me. They also intended to not allow me the public access that they did for other people.

  • @gillianc6514
    @gillianc6514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How right it is to bless you, O Theotokos, ever blessed, most blameless, and Mother of God; more honoured then the cherubim. more glorious beyond compare than the seraphim, in all purity you gave birth to God the Word; true Theotokos we exalt you - [An ancient (more ancient than Protestantism) affirmation of the Universal Church, this is what Mary means to us.]

    • @DaveK548
      @DaveK548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glory to God!

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield4173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

  • @davidestate
    @davidestate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched your videos with your long hair and been through your channel, just looking. I'm a Catholic one that speaks Latin and studies the Latin Vulgate only because I want to speak Latin, plus get closer to God and at the same time, be transported to the beginnings before any Reformation or Schism. It's great to see what the book looks like now in English and how Close it remains to the the original while yet, easier to read. God Bless and may God Continues to Bless you on your journey.

  • @ThisIsMyRectangle
    @ThisIsMyRectangle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The "Catholics don't read the bible" argument always screams a loud accusation of the people deploying that criticism because it very much implies that authentic Christianity and salvation is grounded in erudition.

    • @viviennedunbar3374
      @viviennedunbar3374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It also immediately reveals the person making the argument knows nothing about Catholicism and likely has no idea of what a Catholic Mass is like which is chock full of scripture.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Catholics are far less likely to be regular bible readers, or to know the bible well, compared to other Christians. It's not a rumour, it's a fair observation. It's changing somewhat, but still more likely.

  • @George-ur8ow
    @George-ur8ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Funny! The first 10 secs almost had me spit out my coffee!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahahah mission accomplished 😎

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GospelSimplicity Yep, I didn't see it coming either. I'm thinking, "What the heck did I just see sweet young Austin just say?"

  • @ElizabethSantay
    @ElizabethSantay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the representation of Christ, I recently had a bee thought on it. Not sure how Catholic theologically sound it is, but here: Jesus showed us twice that he could sustain large crowds on bread and fish that had no business feeding large crowds (feeding of the 4,000 and 5,000). He continues to work that miracle today with Catholic communion. His one time sacrifice is still being spread to people even though it doesn’t make sense to us. And he’s even literally present for it - he became the bread and fish he made to feed thousands. Now we get to share in that moment

  • @E_RichG
    @E_RichG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When we do not educate ourselves and study scripture and study the details about the church and its history we fall into this kind of faulty thinking that is really based on an ignorant mind that simply goes off of what is heard about scripture and church history and dogmas and doctrines. We must take studying our faith as Christians more seriously. Like it or not we as Christians are connected in a lot of ways to Orthodoxy and Catholicism, not just Protestantism. The history of the church is Christian history.

  • @NotANameist
    @NotANameist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Catholic, I appreciate the charity.

  • @cristeromoderno-apologetic112
    @cristeromoderno-apologetic112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Correction, there is no adoration of mary, its veneration
    I do appreciate you explaining the protestant mistake in it.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why do Catholics public books like this then?, "I Abandon My Heart to God: Prayers adoring Christ with Mary, Our Lady of Good Help" Yes, that's a Polish Catholic book title, you can look up yourself. Another such title showed up in the N. American, National CAtholic Register, "Adoring Christ With Mary: Eucharistic Devotion and the Mother of God".

    • @cristeromoderno-apologetic112
      @cristeromoderno-apologetic112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saintejeannedarc9460 Are yhou translating it correctly? Or like with so many other Catholic books translated by protestans are you mistranslating it?

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cristeromoderno-apologetic112 I just did a quick search for adoration of Mary, just to see what would come up and those titles came up. I'm not translating anything. Is there another way to read those titles? They may not be typical, so it's esp. surprising to see that in the National Catholic Register.

    • @cristeromoderno-apologetic112
      @cristeromoderno-apologetic112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saintejeannedarc9460 So then you have not reallyu read the book at all. You are then going by what others say,, not by actual facts. You are merely repeating what tothers say instead of actuallyudoing the research.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cristeromoderno-apologetic112 Whether I have read the books, or if you've read the books, is completely besides the point. Do you have an issue w/ those two titles. Since you make a distinction between veneration and adoration of Mary, then you would likely concede that those titles, written by a Catholic are somewhat problematic. One is published in a popular N. American CAtholic site, that is the point. I'm told Catholics don't adore Mary, except in some cases where it seems like they sometimes do.
      Oh, and look the Catholic Register article. The man claims that Mary is also present in the Eucharist. That doesn't seem conventional Catholic teaching to me either.

  • @justokproductions222
    @justokproductions222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your “why it matters” section is fantastic

  • @wilts43
    @wilts43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *SCANDALS?*
    The True Church of Christ on Earth will always be prey to scandals & corruption, to greater & lesser degrees, for *_Jesus tells us so in the Bible many times......_*
    eg
    (a)It is a field of wheat in which Satan plants Tares? (Luke 13:24-30). _Jesus says they will not be removed; but must remain until The Judgement._
    (b)Likewise He tells us it is a Dragnet that gathers good _& bad_ fish that will not be sorted until the End. (Matt:13:47-50)
    Unusually Jesus even explains these Parables, so this meaning cannot be missed.
    (c) "Scandals _must come_ but woe to whom they come by" (Luke 17:1)
    (d) "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" (John 6:70)
    It seems Jesus's Church is truly a school or hospital for sinners not simply a society-of-the-saints.
    Nonetheless; although Satan plants (& God permits) weeds, & bad fish, & scandals, & devils, there is nowhere any warrant for leaving the Church founded by the Messiah (the Catholic Church) for one refounded by a man (even though this "founder" meant well, & was scandalised by some corruption).

  • @PaulH
    @PaulH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the fun you're having in this video Austin!

  • @maxonmendel5757
    @maxonmendel5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I felt more mindless repetition serving in ministry as a Protestant than I do visiting the liturgy.

    • @saintejeannedarc9460
      @saintejeannedarc9460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that really surprises me. I've been to both kinds of churches. While I wouldn't call it mindless repetition, there is certainly more repetition in a Catholic Mass, which has the exact same structure w/ little variation.

  • @thecatholicman
    @thecatholicman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. You know the catholic faith better than many Catholics!!

  • @CatholicCat-er9xn
    @CatholicCat-er9xn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos! Always enjoy them.
    Loving one another is a biblical premise and what Jesus and St. John said we should do as Christians.

  • @actsapologist1991
    @actsapologist1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Here's my predictions:
    5) Being Catholic means you can't really listen to the Bible, because you have to listen to the Pope.
    4) Catholics think they work their way into Heaven! The Bible says we're saved by faith alone!
    3) Where is Purgatory in the Bible? Checkmate!!
    2) You guys worship Mary!
    1) Why do you call priests "father" when the Bible says to "call no man father" ?!

    • @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese
      @JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "we didn't know the truth until Luther in the 16th century!"

    • @glorytogodforallthings8448
      @glorytogodforallthings8448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re so typical and hilarious 😆

    • @hemsty2
      @hemsty2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1) so what do you call your Dad?
      2) No we don't worship Mary - we recognise her as the mother of Jesus and since Jesus is one of the Trinity she is therefore Mother of God and we intercede with her to pray to her son for particular requests we would like her to make of Him - didn't Mary request Jesus to help out at the wedding of Cana? and didn't he?
      3) Are you saying that no matter how bad we may have been we go straight to heaven when we die if at some time in our life we have been saved
      4) No we don't - we recognise that we only get to heaven through God's compassion and mercy and our belief that Jesus Christ is our Saviour, but if we believe that Jesus Christ is our Saviour we follow his instruction by "loving our neighbour as ourselves" and he told us in the Parable of the Good Samaritan how we should do that; and also Matthew 25:40 which helps us to know what we must do - feed the hungry, clothe the naked, welcome the stranger and so on. Furthermore how can we say we love God who we cannot see if we don't even love our neighbour who we can see?
      5) there are very few instances in which the Pope has made an infallible statement so very few instance in which he adds to the Bible in any way
      Catholics listen to and follow the Bible every time we attend Mass, most of which directly quotes the Bible, indeed in a year almost the whole of one of the four Gospels is read out at Mass as well (in 2021-2022 we are reading the Gospel of Matthew)

    • @MeadeSkeltonMusic
      @MeadeSkeltonMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And how is that not legitimate? Most Catholics have said we must have works . Most Catholics say if you can't get in the front door with Jesus, get in the back door with Mary. Praying to Saints. Praying for the dead. All unbiblical teachings.

    • @actsapologist1991
      @actsapologist1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MeadeSkeltonMusic : Perhaps. But the reason why they are "bad arguments" is because it takes very little effort to show that those folk-doctrines are not accurate representations of what the Church actually teaches.