As a candlepin bowler, that frame where the 2 pins fell late for the strike even surprised me. While every house is different and every set of pins has different wear levels on the caps, those rolling woods didn't seem hard or fast enough to knock those pins down in (I'd say) 90% of the lanes I've bowled at. But there are always some houses where that would be enough. :) Good experiment to watch for sure! Very cool.
We candlepinners are jealous that you won't be getting any spread eagles or half Worcesters with that ball. Spread eagle=2,4,7 & 3,6,10 (1,5,8,9 punched out) Half Worcester= punch out either 2,8 or 3,9. Yes, those punch outs are very common and can knock the wind out of our sails when we get into a groove.
I enjoyed this. First, you're a good ten pin bowler, so that helped make this interesting, 2nd, that third strike, while not a "no-doubter", happens to us, on occasion. Not every strike in candlepin is a hammer. 3rd, the strikes dried up! What happened? Lol. I appreciate the respectful comments you made about the difficulty of candlepin. How do we keep our frustration level down? It comes with years of experience. After a while, you'll see everything, good and bad, and won't be too surprised by it. You just have to shake off the bad breaks and keep grinding. The breaks even out, over time, and keeping that in the back of your mind helps keep things in perspective. It's not an easy game. A 120 average is considered elite. Anything over 130 is other-worldly. I'd like to see you throw a string using candlepin balls (at candlepins). That 183 might look really good to you afterwards.
Fun! When I was a kid I would sometimes use a toy tenpin set ball, and set paper towel rolls as candlepins and called it 'candletens". I grew up bowling candlepin in MA til moving to Ohio. Fun video, along with yours using duckpins and the candlepin ball at tenpin pins. Next time if you try a candlepin ball at tenpin pins, try using the candlepin rule of leaving the deadwood on the deck. That would make for some very odd pin action on spares I'm sure!
Candlepin is a very difficult version of bowling no one has ever got a perfect game in candlepin. The game was created by a guy who said regular 10 pin was to hard and he thought small ball narrow pins would be easier.
It may be more difficult to score really high but I like to take my neighbor's children bowling and the heavy balls are a struggle for them. The lighter balls give people with less strength a chance to enjoy themselves. I badly wish I could take them candlepin bowling but on my budget I cannot drive them 2000 miles to the nearest lane of that type.
I've been waiting to see this since you did the Candlepin Ball vs. Tenpin Pins video, the results were not what I expected, I thought it would have been easier than it was. I figured with a ten pin bowler of your level it would have been strike after strike after strike. Thanks for tackling this one - puts Candlepin's all time high game of 245 into perspective (scored by Chris Sargent in 2014/2015-ish).
You need to try and get your hands on a German 9 pin bowling ball. They’re bigger than a candle pin ball but still smaller than a regular 10 pin ball. Some also have holes for the middle finger and thumb.
I seen a man pick up the sour Apple next to me. I was on approach after him on the right lane, I made the mistake of sticking my hand out for a 5 and hit hit my hand so hard he about torn it off. Lol
Watched all the videos with the plastic toy pins, duck pins, and candle pins, and the first thought that came to mind is you need to try and get Osku Palermaa to throw his rocket ball at them once to see if he could break any.
So many small differences between the games as well. Fun little fact: the pin deck in candlepin is actually slightly lower than the lane itself. So an average candlepin throw results in the ball hitting the pins while airborne.
As I'm writing this I'm on vacation up in Laconia,NH. While up here ill drip into Finally for a little spring training, if you know what I mean. Since last season ended with a bad throwing arm,I won't even pick up a ten pin ball. So far,so good no pain.
@brunsnick be a cool video either way... maybe do something crazy challenge with a ball like the double hooking ball or your every hand equipment. And of course, straight up
3:15 Literally the slowest strike ever in the history of bowling! "Got to hit this perfect, there is no room for error." Sounds like a normal league night of bowling for 90 rpm rev rate me. 😂
If you still have this set of candle pins how about towel bowling or that Chinese ufo technique. It’d be helpful having a pin setter down there…. maybe Sarah 🤔
Wow. That sooooo. Awesome. You make it eazy to get strike 3 and then. Rest spares. But at the end it turn out hard lmao. Maybe the Santa Clarita lanes she using candle pins for us to get eazy strike or spares. Lmao 🤣
I guess with a 10-pin bowling ball, its less hard then with a candlepin ball. And the candlepins will promise funny spare combinations and weird movement. Maybe its easier to spare because they dont remove deadwood after a Throw. Cant wait!
I want to see an experiment done where they do regular bowling but with this rule of candlestick bowling: After the first shot the down pins are NOT scooped up. That means if you are unlucky your spare might be blocked by a fallen pin preventing normal spare shot or you might be able to knock fallen pin(s) to get your spare like candlepin. This experiment would be even more interesting with the slightly heavier "gold" bowling pins as they would roll less and be more likely to get in the way.
*BrunsNick:* [sets up candlepins for new bowling video] *His Hammer Effect:* Oh, no…not this crazy sh*t again! 😂🤣 Just joking around, Nick. Keep up the content.
Love the video, as always. I have a question - Could you do a video on how to practice on *DRY* lanes? I've been bowling on Sunday nights, and I'm getting whiplash standing far left, and tying to throw right. I'll throw my Radioactive Vibe. I can hit the 5 board, and it still manages to hit 5-board, but I've seen it cross over :(
Seeing that leave in the 10th i kinda wonder how this would look with the lightest house ball or the one you drilled for the spinner release video (if it didnt go to the ball breaker) We'll just pretend deflection means extra carry, definitely true
i'm a candlepin bowler and always wanted to try it and threaten my other league bowlers with it but it would probably wreck the pinsetter machine and also get thrown off the premises. plus tenpin bowling balls are scarce in my area.
I have another idea: KOMI bowling. "Komi" is a term in the Asian game of GO where if one player starts with an advantage a certain number of compensation points is given to the opponent. In "Komi" go one player is given a handicap but unlike traditional handicap bowling both players are considered close enough in skill where a handicap is not normally warranted (but here it is). One player gets to choose what the handicap will be and the OTHER player then decides whether or not they want to have the handicap or let their opponent have it. Whoever gets the handicap has to bowl an entire game with the slightly heavier gold colored pins and the player without the handicap has to bowl on the standard white pins. What handicap would you pick?
@@brunsnick then the player if it was you might choose 10. It would be interesting because there would be strategy on whether to pick the handicap or not or what handicap to set if you are the one assigned for that.
Few things. I can't wait to see you try a traditional Candlepin string,with a real ball. I'm willing to bet that your score will be under 90. Not because of you,its the lane setup. Candlepin lanes have very shallow, almost flat channels. Some houses have steel pin plates. Both for pin action. I'm guessing your ball speed it around 20 mph. Pro candlepin bowlers can reach into the 40+ mph range. Our game is more like billiards. Your ball can be off ever so slightly, and weird things happen. Firing A first ball down at a full rack,if your off slightly that's the difference in getting a hammer strike,or just blunking either the 2 or 3 pins alone. We also slightly different rules. And 6 feet from the foot foul line is a lob line, the ball must land before that line. A dead wood line is about a foot forward of the head pin spot. If anything pin rolls forward past that line,it must be removed. Hitting dead wood in the channel is a foul. Remember kids, candlepin bowling is actually older than traditional ten pin. Because our game is a game of fractions of an inch,there has never been a perfect game yet. 245 is so far the highest.
Candlepin lanes are the same lengths, widths,and pin spots. The candlepin lanes don't have deep channels. Some houses, especially in eastern Canada, their almost flat.
If you ever want to try to compete with our best at our game. I believe the PBA is coming back to Maine this year. Try to get something together with the TH-cam channel The Candlepin Bowling Network. Do a charity match for Candlepin for Cancer.
Since each candlepin weighs a pound less, a modern tenpin ball goes through them as if the ball is more like 21 lbs. Lol. A "real ball" is a yellow dot, OG crown jewel, black beauty, magnum 10, ebonite gemstone, Star Trak MSG, LT-48 Rock, etc.
Candlepin bowling is far more challenging no one has ever rolled a 300 game or even an 800 series. I would like to see you bowl with a regulation ball.
I'm predicting a 150-159 game ... well you did pretty good. i was expecting action more like your 9 and 10th frames. you had good pin action on the first few frames, and a lot of good spares. good job
Hey nick. Could we get a ball with hk22 cohesion and gold...kinda like the widow xr gold... maybe the effect 24k, or a new asym ball called the golden turkey...please and thank you
interesting for sure, need to be way more accurate to strike, than 10 pin bowling. Imagine the scores for ten pin bowling with a candle stick pin ball, jajajajaja, think Nick you tried that with duck pin ball, not sure difference between duck pin and candlestick balls
Candlepins in your hand are a lot bigger than I thought they would be 😂
They’re pretty stout!
Sus
That's what she said
220avg and brunsnick needs to collab with candlepin and duckpin bowling
You 2 definitely need to do a collab especially with @220avg ideas
As a candlepin bowler, that frame where the 2 pins fell late for the strike even surprised me. While every house is different and every set of pins has different wear levels on the caps, those rolling woods didn't seem hard or fast enough to knock those pins down in (I'd say) 90% of the lanes I've bowled at. But there are always some houses where that would be enough. :) Good experiment to watch for sure! Very cool.
New pins are worse. If you remember the TV show out of Woburn for CN8. Those new pins slid on their caps ofter.
Good luck to you, Nick. Candlepin bowling is, from what I've heard, *monstrously* hard.
@@giganerd896 a good game for candlepin is 80-90
Yeah I've played like 10 games in my life, average 206 in tenpin, and maybe shot 90 once 😅
Every candlepin strike I've ever thrown has been a "How the heck did I do that?" question.
We candlepinners are jealous that you won't be getting any spread eagles or half Worcesters with that ball.
Spread eagle=2,4,7 & 3,6,10 (1,5,8,9 punched out)
Half Worcester= punch out either 2,8 or 3,9.
Yes, those punch outs are very common and can knock the wind out of our sails when we get into a groove.
Especially on a fill 😂😂
3:21 _"Oh! They're gonna go-go!"_
(Kudos to anyone who gets that.)😀
"Oh! They're gonna... oh that the replay"
The "oh brootherrr’ killed me hahaha 😂
I wonder what Don Gillis would have thought about this.
This is going to be awesome..looking forward to it.
I enjoyed this. First, you're a good ten pin bowler, so that helped make this interesting, 2nd, that third strike, while not a "no-doubter", happens to us, on occasion. Not every strike in candlepin is a hammer. 3rd, the strikes dried up! What happened? Lol. I appreciate the respectful comments you made about the difficulty of candlepin. How do we keep our frustration level down? It comes with years of experience. After a while, you'll see everything, good and bad, and won't be too surprised by it. You just have to shake off the bad breaks and keep grinding. The breaks even out, over time, and keeping that in the back of your mind helps keep things in perspective. It's not an easy game. A 120 average is considered elite. Anything over 130 is other-worldly.
I'd like to see you throw a string using candlepin balls (at candlepins). That 183 might look really good to you afterwards.
5,7,10 is epic.
For those who might be confused about "Eric Jones", he's Bowler4Ever on TH-cam, not the Eric Jones (2 handed lefty) on the PBA.
I know the Eric Jones pba 2 handed lefty. Great guy!
That was actually pretty entertaining. Even with the larger and heavier tenpin ball the candlepins fought back after that gift of a triple strike.
You mean they sprang an ambush after baiting Nick in with the yummy Turkey!
This was really funny to watch. Thanks.
That was hilarious Nick , great vid !!!
Fun! When I was a kid I would sometimes use a toy tenpin set ball, and set paper towel rolls as candlepins and called it 'candletens". I grew up bowling candlepin in MA til moving to Ohio. Fun video, along with yours using duckpins and the candlepin ball at tenpin pins. Next time if you try a candlepin ball at tenpin pins, try using the candlepin rule of leaving the deadwood on the deck. That would make for some very odd pin action on spares I'm sure!
Candlepin is a very difficult version of bowling no one has ever got a perfect game in candlepin. The game was created by a guy who said regular 10 pin was to hard and he thought small ball narrow pins would be easier.
What was he thinking? Lol
Guess he learned his lesson 😂
It may be more difficult to score really high but I like to take my neighbor's children bowling and the heavy balls are a struggle for them. The lighter balls give people with less strength a chance to enjoy themselves. I badly wish I could take them candlepin bowling but on my budget I cannot drive them 2000 miles to the nearest lane of that type.
@Zurround it's unfortunate how limited candle pin centers are, they're all over the place up here in the northeast
I've been waiting to see this since you did the Candlepin Ball vs. Tenpin Pins video, the results were not what I expected, I thought it would have been easier than it was. I figured with a ten pin bowler of your level it would have been strike after strike after strike. Thanks for tackling this one - puts Candlepin's all time high game of 245 into perspective (scored by Chris Sargent in 2014/2015-ish).
It’s hard to knock them all down, doesn’t seem to matter what kind of ball!
You need to try and get your hands on a German 9 pin bowling ball. They’re bigger than a candle pin ball but still smaller than a regular 10 pin ball. Some also have holes for the middle finger and thumb.
Canadian 5 pin! I want to see that!
There is a video here on the Tube of Canadian 5 pin with the 10 pin setup with 5 pins and the regular 5 pin bowling ball ⚫
Never underestimate the skill of a good candlepin bowler.
Delighted you did this. Not very many people are mixing the components of each bowling type
The turkey out the gate 3rd strike definitely the sickest !! 😆
I seen a man pick up the sour Apple next to me. I was on approach after him on the right lane, I made the mistake of sticking my hand out for a 5 and hit hit my hand so hard he about torn it off. Lol
Bigger ball advantage still lower than some of the best candlepin bowlers.
Fact: no one has bowled a sanctioned 300 in candlepin
At least you didn't get a "Spread Eagle" in the 9th frame.
In real Candlepin Bowling, you have three attempts per frame.
Watched all the videos with the plastic toy pins, duck pins, and candle pins, and the first thought that came to mind is you need to try and get Osku Palermaa to throw his rocket ball at them once to see if he could break any.
LOL he just might!
Candlepin bowling is very humbling. No oil, no hold, that little ball goes where you launch it.
That was awesome to watch Nick but just like regular bowling this sport can humble a person quick if they ain’t careful 🤣🤣
you need to make a mini purple hammer candel pin ball
So many small differences between the games as well.
Fun little fact: the pin deck in candlepin is actually slightly lower than the lane itself. So an average candlepin throw results in the ball hitting the pins while airborne.
Without having watched yet I feel like going Brooklyn in the best way to get all those skinny pins to fly around and fall down.
245 is the record for a single game in candlepin, thought you might have a crack at it after the first 5 boxes.
@@Dave711701 all my dreams were shattered
predicting a 244. cant wait to watch
Brunsnick and Maximum Bob Smith are holding it down for Hammer!
Gotta get me a senior carry shirt
I thought candlepins were a lot smaller and skinnier LOL!
@@TraumaER 3/4” taller, about 1-3/4” narrower and about 1lb lighter.
You've barely did better than us in Strike! Ten pin bowling ^^
how about a game of candlepin with a candlepin ball
Maybe!
How about using candlepin ball on REGULAR bowling setup?? Or duckpin ball for it
@brunsnick u would need to make a special purple ball for it to make a point
@@Zurroundhe's already done candlepin on 10 pins
6:33 is very telling. The small pin diameter makes a decent hit catch a shallow angle of the head pin, so it barely grazes the 2.
Man I'd love to be able to use a 10 pin ball 😅
I couldn't do it. The rhythmic motion of the candlepin approach, just picking up a ten pin ball feels odd.
@@erikthorstensen5185 agree. I occasionally go 10 pin just recreational and can do it but definitely messes up my usual rhythm
As I'm writing this I'm on vacation up in Laconia,NH. While up here ill drip into Finally for a little spring training, if you know what I mean. Since last season ended with a bad throwing arm,I won't even pick up a ten pin ball. So far,so good no pain.
Awesome!
Once again: DumbsNick vs 220 Average Bowler. Please, PLEASE make this happen!!!
220 would walk him. No hate, just facts
@@jessemcclintic what’s the bet?
@brunsnick idk I'll buy your merch and give you the all mighty virtual crispy high five
There’s a bit of a geography issue bowling against 220, but maybe next time I’m in CA again.
@brunsnick be a cool video either way... maybe do something crazy challenge with a ball like the double hooking ball or your every hand equipment. And of course, straight up
Three Ball Candlepin
Two Ball Tenpin
3:15 Literally the slowest strike ever in the history of bowling!
"Got to hit this perfect, there is no room for error." Sounds like a normal league night of bowling for 90 rpm rev rate me. 😂
Great video once again 👏
Lol Candlepins actually a little bit weirder pin action than I was expecting
It’s a love/hate relationship for us candlepin bowlers
Can do no wrong 😂😂
Great video bro 👍
@@kevingrimm9015 thanks homie!
If you still have this set of candle pins how about towel bowling or that Chinese ufo technique. It’d be helpful having a pin setter down there…. maybe Sarah 🤔
I thought that they will break 😮
Wow. That sooooo. Awesome. You make it eazy to get strike 3 and then. Rest spares. But at the end it turn out hard lmao. Maybe the Santa Clarita lanes she using candle pins for us to get eazy strike or spares. Lmao 🤣
@@allen78331 LOL Allen. You rule.
I guess with a 10-pin bowling ball, its less hard then with a candlepin ball. And the candlepins will promise funny spare combinations and weird movement. Maybe its easier to spare because they dont remove deadwood after a Throw. Cant wait!
Imagine candlepin string bowling
That would have been awesome if you picked up the sour apple, and I liked that slow mo strike.
If the head pin hadn't bounced off the wall, Nick would have left the 5,6,7,9,10!
I want to see 2 great "regular" bowling pros compete against each other with regular ball vs candlepin instead of his one guy alone.
Its funny how those look more gold than those pba gold pins did
30 years old and well aged!
Great video!
Nice 3-4 split strikedown
Hey Nick, you should do candlepin balls vs 10 Canadian 5 pins
that is why the bowlers in many pro tournaments receive a $1,000 bonus for three strikes in a row
IM WAITING FO THIS
Now i wanna see a duckpin video😂
I want to see an experiment done where they do regular bowling but with this rule of candlestick bowling: After the first shot the down pins are NOT scooped up. That means if you are unlucky your spare might be blocked by a fallen pin preventing normal spare shot or you might be able to knock fallen pin(s) to get your spare like candlepin.
This experiment would be even more interesting with the slightly heavier "gold" bowling pins as they would roll less and be more likely to get in the way.
There’s sometimes pins left on the deck in tenpin bowling but it doesn’t happen often.
*BrunsNick:* [sets up candlepins for new bowling video]
*His Hammer Effect:* Oh, no…not this crazy sh*t again!
😂🤣 Just joking around, Nick. Keep up the content.
My Effect hasn’t seen regular pins since Nationals lol
It's time for Lego pins ! In super super slow mo of course !
Love the video, as always. I have a question - Could you do a video on how to practice on *DRY* lanes? I've been bowling on Sunday nights, and I'm getting whiplash standing far left, and tying to throw right. I'll throw my Radioactive Vibe. I can hit the 5 board, and it still manages to hit 5-board, but I've seen it cross over :(
I grew up playing Skittle Bowl! I would only use 6 pins so I could shoot 200 games! Those candlepins have the same shape as the skittle pins!
Seeing that leave in the 10th i kinda wonder how this would look with the lightest house ball or the one you drilled for the spinner release video (if it didnt go to the ball breaker)
We'll just pretend deflection means extra carry, definitely true
I’m thinking a lighter ball would be a little better!
Last time I checked, candlepin balls were real too
i'm a candlepin bowler and always wanted to try it and threaten my other league bowlers with it but it would probably wreck the pinsetter machine and also get thrown off the premises. plus tenpin bowling balls are scarce in my area.
The fastest lane in candlepin history 🤣 that third strike would never carry with candlepin balls
Fun to watch though don't get me wrong
I have another idea: KOMI bowling. "Komi" is a term in the Asian game of GO where if one player starts with an advantage a certain number of compensation points is given to the opponent.
In "Komi" go one player is given a handicap but unlike traditional handicap bowling both players are considered close enough in skill where a handicap is not normally warranted (but here it is).
One player gets to choose what the handicap will be and the OTHER player then decides whether or not they want to have the handicap or let their opponent have it.
Whoever gets the handicap has to bowl an entire game with the slightly heavier gold colored pins and the player without the handicap has to bowl on the standard white pins.
What handicap would you pick?
Depends how many pins handicap. Bowling on the Gold Pins will likely see a 10 pin drop in average.
@@brunsnick then the player if it was you might choose 10. It would be interesting because there would be strategy on whether to pick the handicap or not or what handicap to set if you are the one assigned for that.
Few things. I can't wait to see you try a traditional Candlepin string,with a real ball. I'm willing to bet that your score will be under 90. Not because of you,its the lane setup. Candlepin lanes have very shallow, almost flat channels. Some houses have steel pin plates. Both for pin action. I'm guessing your ball speed it around 20 mph. Pro candlepin bowlers can reach into the 40+ mph range. Our game is more like billiards. Your ball can be off ever so slightly, and weird things happen. Firing A first ball down at a full rack,if your off slightly that's the difference in getting a hammer strike,or just blunking either the 2 or 3 pins alone. We also slightly different rules. And 6 feet from the foot foul line is a lob line, the ball must land before that line. A dead wood line is about a foot forward of the head pin spot. If anything pin rolls forward past that line,it must be removed. Hitting dead wood in the channel is a foul. Remember kids, candlepin bowling is actually older than traditional ten pin. Because our game is a game of fractions of an inch,there has never been a perfect game yet. 245 is so far the highest.
Cool video talk tech bowling ball brunsnick
Did you try real ball vs nine pin?
Is it on ten pin lanes or candlepin lanes ?
@@robertmichaud5633 tenpin
Candlepin lanes are the same lengths, widths,and pin spots. The candlepin lanes don't have deep channels. Some houses, especially in eastern Canada, their almost flat.
Do bobby pins next👍
You should try it with he skill ball
Reminds me of wii bowling.. 😅
Just starting to watch 265
If you ever want to try to compete with our best at our game. I believe the PBA is coming back to Maine this year. Try to get something together with the TH-cam channel The Candlepin Bowling Network. Do a charity match for Candlepin for Cancer.
Now I'm interested in seeing normal pins but you get to leave dead wood on the lane.
Since each candlepin weighs a pound less, a modern tenpin ball goes through them as if the ball is more like 21 lbs.
Lol. A "real ball" is a yellow dot, OG crown jewel, black beauty, magnum 10, ebonite gemstone, Star Trak MSG, LT-48 Rock, etc.
I think he's going to score a 120!
Not related to this vlog but could you clear something up for me. When is the NU cover stock going on the gas mask core??
@@BuzzsawBrent no idea, sorry.
Candlepin bowling is far more challenging no one has ever rolled a 300 game or even an 800 series. I would like to see you bowl with a regulation ball.
No small adjustment on the GSX to pick them up and set them down? lol.
I wish! Would have saved my body!
bowled that in Maine Did a 150
Now do Real ball VS Fivepins
The next experiment is to use the smaller balls meant for duck pins or candle pins on REGULAR BOWLING PINS.
Did it
What about using a candlepin as the ball against normal pins
Now do it with real candlepin balls!
tough bowlmg 165
I'm predicting a 150-159 game ... well you did pretty good. i was expecting action more like your 9 and 10th frames. you had good pin action on the first few frames, and a lot of good spares. good job
Hey nick. Could we get a ball with hk22 cohesion and gold...kinda like the widow xr gold... maybe the effect 24k, or a new asym ball called the golden turkey...please and thank you
Can you do duck pins
I just bought ur shirt I love it cuz my name is nick
Perfect. Thank you!
Woah brunswick a2 and gsx??
@@jonathansandy2192 test center.
208 is my guess
interesting for sure, need to be way more accurate to strike, than 10 pin bowling. Imagine the scores for ten pin bowling with a candle stick pin ball, jajajajaja, think Nick you tried that with duck pin ball, not sure difference between duck pin and candlestick balls
can you get Charles or Dasha to do candlestick ball against standard bowling pins 🙃😉
They almost look like cigars.