@@davidwarren9939 where ? The u.s. military ? In israel we cannot find in the flight radar the planes that do the trails. the ministers in the government told the people who asked about this subject that they know about the trails but they don't share more info about it. They just said that "military planes do not fly for exercises above citizen's cities" 😑😐
@@yassassin6425 The building blocks of our history are conspiracies. Therefore those who call others conspiracy theorist are either simply stupid or part of the conspiracy. Without studying history and read books I understand you can't comprehend the cruel facts of reality....
@@divinusmaximus1315 *_"The building blocks of our history are conspiracies"_* As opposed to dumb internet _conspiracy theories_ perpetrated by opportunistic exploitation and intentionally targeting the gullible and critically impaired. *_"Therefore those who call others conspiracy theorist are either simply stupid or part of the conspiracy."_* Great logic there mate - clever lad. Those shape shifting reptilians must be real after all. Right, I'm off the Infowars merchandise page straight away - also, when's David Icke on tour next? *_"Without studying history and read books I understand you can't comprehend the cruel facts of reality...."_* Of course people, governments, agencies and organisations conspire - no one is disputing that. However, simply because they do, it doesn't therefore logically follow that 'chemtrails' or any other random conspiracy *_theory_* of one's arbitrary choice or devising must therefore be real or true. A syllogistic logical fallacy of the undisputed middle. Why are you people utterly unable to comprehend this?
@@ithan8069 I wrote my words despite I never created a conspiracy theory myself. I read a lot of books (sometimes 2-3 simultaneously) I know history very well this is why I wrote what I wrote. Until you don't start to read books to know historical facts, you can enjoy your life in ignorance. Human ignorance can be very devastating. It is so sad when I hear people for example who still believe that Oswald killed JFK. Greetings from Hungary!
It's not a case of debunking, what you have just claimed is demonstrably false. Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years. This is independently verifiable.
@@MrTodfoulk Sigh. So in common with your ilk, you predictably completely ignore the topic and resort to the same old obligatory personal attack instead in rabid caps lock. Even then, you can't even parrot the word 'shill' correctly, far less actually understand what it means. As the one posting ill informed nonsense, unsubstantiated claims, junk conspiracy theory and personal abuse in the comments section of this video, by virtue of its very definition, the troll would be none other than yourself. Moreover, you are shilling conspiracy theory, which if you hadn't noticed (of course you haven't), is highly lucrative form of exploitation for those that peddle it. And to cap it all, you exhort me to 'wake up' - are you really you're 60, not 6? The only one's still sad enough to be using this cretinous conspiratorial cliché are the ones that slept through science classes. I simply challenged your claims - and how you people absolutely detest that. Yes persistent spreading contrails did exist before the 1990s, a fact that you can routinely independently verify for yourself if you had either the integrity, the honesty, the will and the critical capability to do so. Nothing whatsoever to do with me.
@@yassassin6425 Do some research on geoengineering. Or more specifically, solar geoengineering and cloud seeding. TPTB are not even hiding it these days; they just don't talk about it publicly. I lived for 17 years close to an airport and I saw contrails pretty much every day (very distinctive parallel lines that disappeared at a constant distance of the plane). Chemtrails do not form parallel lines; they form a single "cloud" that expands over time and stays there for hours. That's cloud seeding precisely. If you can't see the difference, I have bad news for you. Wake the hell up.
@@yassassin6425 yeah if you’re still living under a rock and with a herd mentality, more information and proof of these chemtrails are surfacing and being shared and the amount of people questioning them have gone up tenfold
@@TheExidion *_"yeah if you’re still living under a rock and with a herd mentality"_* Said the online conspiracy believer. *_"more information and proof of these chemtrails are surfacing and being shared and the amount of people questioning them have gone up tenfold"_* Really? - then you'll have no problem presenting your best piece of evidence then. I absolutely guarantee I've heard/seen it many, many, many times before and despite being comprehensively debunked, that it has been batted about your vacuous echo chamber for years.
@@yassassin6425 sure you got an email address I can send you my presentation? Better yet I can do a power point for you and then you can do one back to counter me? Why not make a debate fun huh? But for now there are many examples of cloud seeding companies that exist specially in the USA, many patents exist that demonstrate the means of releasing materials in our atmosphere, there is even an episode on top gear of a massive cloud generating device which forms a cloud which then soaks him! And don’t forget the olympics in Athens and what did they do? Sent rockets and devices to clear away all clouds! And then you have our friends mr bill gates with his proposal of dumping calcium carbonate into the atmosphere to “reflect” sunlight and which they’re probably already doing because the technology already exists! I don’t think that you’re not intelligent but you are definitely wilfully ignorant to the world around you. Back when smoking was popular and endorsed by doctors before the general population would accept they were causing health problems, just like one of those that just accepting the narrative that of the masses until over time they change their mindset because its no longer deniable- that’s who you are. Well then Joe is also a conspiracy theorist for his views on ivermectin, thing is I’d much rather be of sound mind questioning what I am told and not just accepting something just cause everyone else does rather than someone who just shouts and gets infuriated by anyone who holds a different view to them.
@matthew martin No one is disputing the fact that weather modification in the form of cloud seeding exists Matthew, it is neither secretive and the internet is full of organisations that freely promote and advertise contracts and services. Not sure what this has to do with the ill-informed belief that persistent contrails are anything other than the product of condensed water vapour in the wake of jet aircraft cruising in the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere.
I've seen contrails since growing up in the 60s. Contrails are slender, elegant vapor trails that remain briefly way up in the stratosphere before fading away. Chemtrails, on the other hand, are something I only began to notice in the last 10-20 years. They look like the exhaust from a pollution-spewing jalopy and they hang way down here in the troposphere, often crisscrossed with many other such trails as they slowly spread out and merge with one another into hazy, unsightly "clouds" composed of Lord knows what. When you notice one or two of them, scan the horizon. Chances are it'll be a heavy chemtrail day and you'll see a lot more of them all around.
*_"Contrails are slender, elegant vapor trails that remain briefly way up in the stratosphere before fading away."_* Sometimes. On other occasions, they may not even necessarily form at all, or, if the ambient conditions are conducive then they may expand and spread of be fanned out by high altitude wind shear. *_"Chemtrails, on the other hand, are something I only began to notice in the last 10-20 years."_* Since you heard about this conspiracy theory then? *_"They look like the exhaust from a pollution-spewing jalopy and they hang way down here in the troposphere, often crisscrossed with many other such trails as they slowly spread out and merge with one another into hazy, unsightly "clouds" composed of Lord knows what"_* You said it yourself - clouds. That's all they are. The contrails that you are misidentifying as 'chemtrails' are nothing more than persistent spreading cirrus and they are composed of condensed water vapour in the form of ice. This is measurable and demonstrable. Also, what mysterious 'chemical' is able to expand when released, increase in mass and vastly exceed the maximum take off weight of the aircraft producing it? And of course they appear to intersect?The sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace? *_"When you notice one or two of them, scan the horizon. Chances are it'll be a heavy chemtrail day and you'll see a lot more of them all around."_* Or more specifically at those altitudes, low temperature combined with high relative humidity and low vapour pressure. Who'd have thought?
@@LH23511 *_"Well said. I noticed the difference, when I would walk my dogs around 2010 . The contrails got much thicker and would spread out like thick tendrils. And another would come beside it, and they would merge and cloud the sky."_* Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years. *_"This summer, we would have 9 hours of sun predicted every day. Instead we would have a couple hours in the morning, and then the sky would get hazy. We haven’t had a full day of sun in over a month - 2 months, here in Ontario."_* Have you actually thought of looking into the meteorological conditions that have determined this? *_"I also put a bowl of vinegar out, and it would make a big clear hole in the sky on a windless day. Acid of vinegar dissipates the alkalinity of barium and aluminum. It opens the sky above your house."_* This is utterly staggering that there are actually still people online parroting this.
Yes, this true, and geoengineering is absolutely real. People here in the NW u will see the public.recording it real time, u can watch them join together...our once blue skies are now a white'ish blue, u can look at the sun and it doesnt hurt ur eyes. There were many many many videos of the air force speaking about it openly. The people doing this, as well as their families do undergo medical treatments to extract this from their bodies. This is the worst experiment done to mankind in the USA EVER! THESE R NANO PARTICLES IN OUR AIR, H20, N SOIL...NO WAY OF EXTRACTING IT. This has been going on since 2016 or before. Ive written how it wks and I always get scrubbed. Just like the airforce hygienist who was shown it, she 1rst disnt believe it as that was hwr job, and she didnt have to do much digging.and she waa sholed. She goes around the world exposing it. There were sooo many pics in 2016 & after showing the Airforce were buying up commercial jets, taking out the seats and placing cannisters of.this stuff they r spraying...u could see the overheads for luggage they leave intact. These pilots r not told what they r spraying horizon to horizon 24/7...but they will tell u they r the highest paid pilots in the world. And they keep their kids inside their homes, though even that doesnt protect them completely! Man, I wish I could go all into it, as it was a thought back in the 50's or 60's that if we could control the weather we could bring Russia to their knees by making it not rain, weather warfare, however, today, all wealthy countries r doing this, so what does that mean? This is what is causing 99% of so called climage change! Its man made! Its causing these man made fires that r so hot no one has ever seen in history, trees r burning from the inside out! And the hot air is being trapped, and the flooding! PEOPLE WAKE UP!
Interesting watching this... I found myself down the rabbit hole when my late grandparents always told me to never trust the papers, what's on the TV or what the government says.. always think the opposite and ALWAYS think from both sides of the argument.
Yeh like Rogan is a Satanist and is paid to debunk this on air. When in fact, chemtrails create fake cloud cover. aka Cloud seeding. Technocratic communism.
Besides it being admitted to by several countries like Germany 13-15 years ago, it's well known and documented they're using literally industrial waste mixed with other chemicals for cloud seeding to spray us (collaterally but still), the metals falling on the ground are well recorded and NOT industry caused(not directly), that's why oceans got warmer=more acidic, as the soil as the air, as our own bodies, that's why you got increase in rapid spreading cancers and respiratory issues to that corona nor the vax didn't help did they. The acidic dry soils kills trees, more dead trees, you get fast growing fires, as we've seen around the world. Killing us in the process of getting yet another weapon in their pocket is a lucky hapenstance for these demented cunts in the deep state, as depopulation is goal #1.
And this guy is on the Democratic side. Because I know chemtrails are real I've seen the planes that do it. I've seen the difference from chemtrails and what comes out of a plane they are both very different. I wonder who's paying him to try and convince us there's no chemtrails.
Look up cloud seeding it’s a real thing that they’re revealing only now to the public in mainstream news it’s wild how they say everyone’s crazy then they come out and say yea we spray shit into the air to control the weather and precipitation of clouds…!
As a humanoid lizard who works on the airport crew, I can confirm this. The pay is okay but the benefits are shit. We are thinking about forming a union. If we don't get improvements we are going to strike. The cucks running the deep-lizard state will learn the hard way that the world doesn't takeover itself.
John Pen hahah that’s funny as hell because the Jon Brennan is ON VIDEO telling you that geoengineering is REAL. Laugh it up dude. Look up at the skies. For some reason the clouds look diff than they used to.
@J Juarez you know what’s funny I think we both misread each other’s comments. When U said “who says they aren’t real” thought u meant mainstream news lmao my bad dude
I swear I never noticed all these contrails until the last several years. Now I see them constantly, sometimes even 5-8 at a time. Anyone else not remember seeing these in the past?
Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, recorded, documented, photographed, filmed and studied for the best part of a century and since the advent of powered high altitude flight.
How far in the past? I have been seeing those for so many years. I always lived in rural areas and the chemtrails were prominent in these areas where poverty and mental illnesses accumulate. The government offered free Sanax and Paxil.
Of course you do. The sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
@@yassassin6425 obviously this has become your new normal. Don't tell me what I see!!!!!! I live rural without commercial air traffic to produce a tick-tack-toe design.
@@brigbrown4444 *_"obviously this has become your new normal."_* Nope. Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years. I can demonstrate this very easily to you with some references - or you can establish this for yourself. "_"Don't tell me what I see!!!!!!"_* You haven't got a clue what you see because you have allowed junk online conspiracy theory to tell you what to think about something that you clearly don't understand. *_"I live rural without commercial air traffic to produce a tick-tack-toe design."_* Fascinating. A rural area of the contiguous United States that isn't overflown by domestic or long-haul air traffic. What's your location?
How many flights are in the air at any given time over the US per day. With each flight having a different destination from a different starting point, statistically there’s still going to be commercial air traffic over your local area
Idk, man. Where I live in Brazil I see planes leaving trails behind all the time, but the trails always disappear in a matter of minutes. *That's* a natural fenomena. It doesn't make sense to me for a simple "condensed vapor trail" to last hours on end, slowing *falling* over people's heads. There's definitely something weird to it.
@@iandownham2127 By all means, let's do that. A persistent contrail you mean - a phenomena that has been observed, measured and studied for in excess of eighty years and since the early advent of powered flight. A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. Whether it does or not, together with the duration and length, is governed by the interrelationship between air temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure.
@@cantrun5491 You seem a tad confused. The lower atmosphere is full of "water vapour" - you can't see it, because it is an invisible gas. In conditions of high relative humidity or supersaturation, it may condense and clouds will form which is precisely why they "spread for miles and miles". Given the right conditions (air temperature, humidity and vapour pressure), the same can happen with contrails which is precisely why they can contain millions of lbs of material and the ice budget can grow, because they are drawing upon the available atmospheric water vapour.
You never mention how the trails continue to spread across the sky getting larger for hours without dissipating. I feel like water vapor doesn't behave this way. I'm open to disproving them, but this has always been my sticking point. Maybe you can shed some light on this for me. Show some type of scientific explanatory proof that water vapor does behave in this manner.
Think of it the other way - how could any chemical cloud sprayed from the rear of an aircraft spread and not disperse? The reason a contrail can grow is because the water vapour is already present in the atmosphere. At the altitude that commercial air traffic cruises it is very cold. If the humidity is high then a contrail may form - and if the surrounding atmosphere is supersaturated in respect to ice it will persist and even grow because it is unable to sublimate back into its invisible gaseous state which is invisible water vapour. The process is explained in this paper together with additional citations that you can cross reference. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1029/2003JD003582/asset/jgrd10661.pdf?v=1&t=jbwbs5af&s=2c8f90b8ca0dced255ee46798a35348c80a3e4e1
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Before I got sober I was deep into the chemtrail theory. One day a voice in my head said “If you are going to pollute your body, do you deserve to live in a clean world?”
Addicts have the highest concentration of conspiracy theorists I’ve ever seen. I always wondered and then I saw a study that the number one contributor to believing in conspiracies is a general feeling of lack of control over your life. Ain’t that some shit lol
@@jamesnunn7181 contrails exists and disappear, chem trails expand and stay there very hazy. Watched it for a couple hours today. Took many pictures and videos.
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Before being awake and aware of the world around us, Joe sounded sane. But now, he sounds just as woke as all the idiots walking around with a blindfold
you may possibly feel this way because of the degradation caused to your brain from your ancestors committing incest for generations. fruit for thought :)
Ignore these other comments, they clearly don’t do much research. I’ve been feeling this way about Joe for a couple years. He sounds like Tucker Carlson a year ago. Always pretending like he has no idea, just an inkling. This is what politicians do, talk about things they know are important to you while ignoring or acting ignorant on the most important facts. Can’t see the forest for the trees.
They compare the chemtrails to our breath on a cold day, saying the water vapors from our breath is why we can see it on a cold day. So if that's true why doesn't our breath spread out like chemtrails do throughout the day?-
You'll find that the explanation may well be because the exhalation from your lungs is not equivalent or analogous to a large turbofan jet engine rated up to 115,000 lbs of thrust, continually burning a hydrocarbon fuel at 1,100°C and 4 litres per second, emitting a stream of 600°C superheated exhaust in an ambient ice saturated environment < -60°C whilst travelling at speeds up to and occasionally in excess of 500 knots.
The solar radiation management is well documented. A friend who worked for the forest service started taking soil samples when they couldn't explain how the fires were getting started and verified this as well, by the lab results.
No one is debunking geoengineering - and no one is 'admitting' that it is real, since it has never been denied. Geoengineering is a vast area involving multiple strategies and proposals. Those that are falsely attributed to the chemtrail belief are entirely hypothetical however.
Question - and please answer honestly, do you actually understand what geoengineering is and how broadly the term is applied? What does geoengineering in any of its forms have to do with a dumb hoax centred around the misidentification of aircraft contrails?
Calling it geoengineering is a stretch. The science behind it is shaky, results are inconsistent and it is limited to cloud seeding and rain release (both of which produce erratic or no results at high biological risk which is why they aren't used). But hey, the government is lizard people who mind control people without tinfoil hats into believing that the earth is a globe, Hitler is dead and that the moon is solid and not a hollow alien base.
I'd never heard of chemtrails, when I witnessed two planes lay crosshatched lines right above my head that made a perfectly clear sunny day turn to a white cloudy overcast day , as the crosshatched lines grew thicker until they all connected...and they did it in approximately two hours .
@@yassassin6425 lol contrails turn a perfectly clear day into a completely overcast day in two hours?. So weather altering contrails? . If that what it is that I saw, then that's what it is. Just seems strange that the excess heat in the form of steam wouldn't be evaporated and disappear. Don't you think?.
@@pullitupjamie810 *_"lol contrails turn a perfectly clear day into a completely overcast day in two hours?. So weather altering contrails?"_* Yep - It can happen quicker than that in fact. *_"So weather altering contrails? . If that what it is that I saw, then that's what it is"_* Nope, contrails altered by the weather. *_"Just seems strange that the excess heat in the form of steam wouldn't be evaporated and disappear. Don't you think?."_* Except, that isn't what contrails are. Allow me to explain. Because jet fuel is a hydrocarbon, the chief products of combustion are CO2 and H2O. Since the oxygen adds to the mass, burning a gallon of jet fuel actually makes more than a gallon of water. In the regions that aircraft cruise (the lower stratosphere), the ambient air is not only very cold, but if the relative humidity is high and encountering a lower vapour pressure, the water in the exhaust will condense out as ice, forming a trail which is essentially a cirrus cloud. A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. In cases of high Rhi, then the trail will linger because the ice crystals are unable to sublimate back into the gaseous phase (water vapour). If the air is saturated in respect to ice, then the trail will expand, spread and increase in mass because it is almost entirely drawing upon the available atmospheric moisture - where the jet engine exhaust is merely the trigger mechanism. As I indicated - the same process as a cloud, which is precisely what contrails are. Hope this helps.
We live near of two largest airports in the country and we see a lot of planes in the sky ,but they never ever leaving any trails behind, hanging for hours over our heads and spreading all over the sky instead of disappearing. This happens when we see plains crossing the sky in the squares,which leaves behind white long 'cloth' of something,what stays over for a very long time. It happen a couple days before. We stayed in our garden with dogs,because of beutiful sunny day. My border collie Bella LOVES rain,loves to play in the rain and barking loudly and soon she feels ANY ,even a single drop from the sky,she starts running around and sniffing. A couple hours later after we saw this plain making squares,Bella started her 'rain sniffing' thing. I myself felt very light,more like 'one particle of' smell like a kind of petrol,ammonium or something very chemical. Next day after spending half a day outside, both of us by some reason felt like dizzy,sleepy, overtired,heavy head,heavy eyes. Even dogs ,who loves garden went inside ahead of us and went to sleep straight away. This is why Im looking for information on chemtrails now. Not because I saw some videos,but because what we have experienced. If people can imagine things or to be very sensitive to info ,dogs cannot. They feel what they feel and if my dog in the middle of hot and sunny day starts sniffing raindrops, I believe that something is falling down from the sky.
Proximity to an airport is irrelevant. Air traffic is not at a sufficient altitude to form contrails. In respect of the grid patterns that you describe. the sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace? Finally, contrails often form on the leading edge of an advancing weather front and are thus an early indication of rainfall. They are the consequence not the cause of this.
@@yassassin6425 I hate when people talking nonsense. Proximity to airports means I see a lot of flying planes and I am able to recognize where are condensation trails from an unusual trails,left by planes. Normal trail of condensation is visible approximately a few meters behind the plane ( if you are looking from the ground) and dissolved asap. Chemtrails are hanging over for hours and spreading across the sky. Lines,left behind the plane are connected at the end,if it is done in the squares. Usually commercial planes doesnt make squares. Why do you think that people are absolutely daft only you alone cleaver one? P.S: If your explanation would be true, we would be able to see 'sky in the squares' every single day,because plaines flies by the same traffic management, especially on weekends, when they are flying one after another nonstop in all directions. But it never works like that. This chemtrail thing happens from time to time,never a few days in a row or on the same week. I grew up in Lithuania and my uncle back then used to work with planes,who was spraying herbicides and plant food on the farmland so,I can remember well how it looks like :) Later on it was banned,because of the damage it does to the nature,but who was worried about that in 60- 70s?
@@67nextday *_"I hate when people talking nonsense."_* Said the believer in junk online conspiracy theory. *_"Proximity to airports means I see a lot of flying planes and I am able to recognize where are condensation trails from an unusual trails,left by planes."_* Aircraft arriving and departing from airports do not deposit contrails. Contrails tend to be formed at cruise altitudes. And your point about people talking nonsense was? *_"Normal trail of condensation is visible approximately a few meters behind the plane ( if you are looking from the ground)"_* Correct, due to the phase gap. This is hard to discern though as a gound based observer. *_"and dissolved asap"_* Contrails don't 'dissolve', they sublimate. And why should this be "asap"? Demonstrate why supported by known physical laws and atmospheric chemistry. Go ahead. *_"Chemtrails are hanging over for hours and spreading across the sky"_* You mean persistent spreading contrails that have been observed, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and the best part of a century. *_"Lines,left behind the plane are connected at the end,if it is done in the squares."_* To remind you, this is what you said - ""I hate when people talking nonsense." *_"Usually commercial planes doesnt make squares."_* As patiently explained f course commercial aircraft can make grid patterns since as explained, they are flying at differing altitudes, headings and to a range of destinations. You can easily verify this for yourself. *_"Why do you think that people are absolutely daft only you alone cleaver one?"_* Several responses to this. 1/ Firstly, I am irrelevant to this exchange, everything that I type is independently verifiable. The known science that you are demonstrably ignorant of has a voice of its own. 2/ I am pressed for an answer, then perhaps the fact that I am not the one that has allowed myself to gullibly be duped by an online conspiracy theory that has managed to turn a cloud into a conspiracy theory. 3/ I can at least compose a coherent sentence and spell the word 'clever'. *_"P.S: If your explanation would be true, we would be able to see 'sky in the squares' every single day,because plaines flies by the same traffic management, especially on weekends, when they are flying one after another nonstop in all directions. But it never works like that"_* By the same logic, why then do you not see clouds every day? Are you similarly perplexed by variations in cloud cover? A contrail can be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. Do you really require me to explain why? Why are you doing this to yourself? *_"This chemtrail thing happens from time to time,never a few days in a row or on the same week."_* So do atmospheric conditions and changes in humidity, vapour pressure and ambient air temperature genius. It's called weather. *_"I grew up in Lithuania and my uncle back then used to work with planes,who was spraying herbicides and plant food on the farmland so,I can remember well how it looks like :)"_* You actually think that crop dusting is analogous to the contrails that you are misidentifying? Jeez. Question for you. Why do you think that corp spraying is conducted at around 100 feet or lower as opposed to 6 - 8 miles high? Think hard now. *_"Later on it was banned,because of the damage it does to the nature,but who was worried about that in 60- 70s?"_* Crop dusting is not banned. Why are you changing the subject? This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the aircraft contrails that you have been conned into believing are 'chemtrails'.
@@yassassin6425 You talking nonsense, 'filibustering ' boy and not answering my simple question: why it's not happens every single day,if it is normal to aircraft? There is nothing to do with air conditions,if days are the same sunny and nice with the similar humidity and preassure,the same temperature.I do believe my own eyes, not stupid theories and presumptions someone makes. You took a lot of effort and time to pick my message into pieces and argue every word. Im too lazy to do the same,sorry,but every argument is misleading and nonsense,called bla bla,bla..Only young and passionate believers in sience does that :)Look above your head sometimes and believe your own eyes, not in that rubbish you have been told in school, by media or by purposely educated people. I believe my own eyes,boy. Dont need to be scientist to recognize clean sky from polluted one. Your speech is a twaddle,like a pouring watter from one empty bucket into another : sound exists but no point to do so :) You want by sience? Ok! What is contrail? A frozen water vapour, which is needed cold weater to be formed. By sience -1°C is when water freezes. There are nearest airports: Leeds 37km away,Manchester 35km,Liverpool approx 50km away. Flightradar24 helps to check speed,altitude, route,so,we can clearly see how many planes overhead,who is landing,who is passing to Dublin,Glasgow,etc.. Altitude of landing / take off planes 8-12 thousand feets above our town (3-4 km ). Next we are using temperature at altitude calculator. For an example, +20° C at altitude of 4km gives us -6°C. More than enough contrails to be formed.Yes, we see it as a few meters white trail behind the plane,which very fast diapers ( dissolved).This is normal way of watching any plane flying in the sky,whatever altitude it might be ( I mean higher than 4km,because planes normally flies approx 10 kms) So,why on Earth,according this explanation,a plane ( usualy it works two of them to form squares),who flies low altitude, can leave trails behind on a hot summer day,which cannot be dissolved in a few hours? Visually they are not flying higher than 3-4kms,compare to commercial planes,who flies visibly very high ( even then their contrails dissolved as normally and no white-stay forever- tails left behind, which would be very logical in their altitude and cold air). If it is 20-25°C on the ground,they vapour must be dissolved in the counted minutes,never mind hours to stay and hang over us.Any LOGICAL explanation,please?
@@67nextday Your comment appears to be shadow banned. I will summarise it here. *_"You talking nonsense, 'filibustering ' boy and not answering my simple question"_* Again, the irony, was it intentional? To clarify once more, everything that I type is independently verifiable. Nothing to to with me. Regarding your question - *_"why it's not happens every single day,if it is normal to aircraft? There is nothing to do with air conditions,if days are the same sunny and nice with the similar humidity and preassure,the same temperature"_* Jesus Christ, this is like pulling teeth. Firstly, surely you are aware that the atmosphere is not homogeneous or isotropic. Conditions on the ground can be very different to those at 40,000ft - which in turn can be very different to those at 35,0000ft 30,000ft, 25,000ft, 20,000ft and 15,000ft. Like I said, contrails can be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or they may not form at all. Whether they do along with their length and duration *_is determined by the interaction between ambient air temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure._* *_"I do believe my own eyes"_* No one doubts the trials that you are seeing, you simply don't understand what they are. *_"not stupid theories and presumptions someone makes."_* Said the online conspiracy believer. *_"You took a lot of effort and time to pick my message into pieces and argue every word."_* It was neither and it was very easy to do. *_"Im too lazy to do the same,sorry"_* Just as you are too lazy to learn about aviation, atmospheric science, meteorology and the physical laws that govern them. It's much easier for you people to become an armchair authority squandering an evening watching junk online conspiracy video. *_"but every argument is misleading and nonsense,called bla bla,bla"_* Yes, so you keep saying, without being able to address or refute a word of it. *_"Only young and passionate believers in sience does that :)"_* Known science is not a question of 'belief'. *_"Look above your head sometimes and believe your own eyes, not in that rubbish you have been told in school, by media or by purposely educated people. I believe my own eyes,boy. Dont need to be scientist to recognize clean sky from polluted one."_* Are you also perplexed by the appearance of a cloud or variation in cloud cover? *_"Your speech is a twaddle,like a pouring watter from one empty bucket into another : sound exists but no point to do so :)"_* Like I said, no use saying it, demonstrate why. *_"You want by sience? Ok!"_* Given that you have shown throughout that you can't even spell the word, this should at the very least be entertaining. Go ahead then. *_"What is contrail? A frozen water vapour, which is needed cold weater to be formed. By sience -1°C is when water freezes."_* The ambient air temperature will be much lower that this, but temperature alone does not form a contrail. It is also a function of relative humidity and vapour pressure. Although water vapour is produced by jet engines for this to condense into a cloud of ice crystals, the surrounding air must be conducive to it. I suggest that you take a look at the Appleman equations/chart. *_"There are nearest airports: Leeds 37km away, Manchester 35km, Liverpool approx 50km away. Flightradar24 helps to check speed,altitude, route,so,we can clearly see how many planes overhead,who is landing,who is passing to Dublin,Glasgow,etc. Altitude of landing / take off planes 8-12 thousand feets above our town (3-4 km )."_* Correct. And aircraft in proximity to those airports that are either approaching or departing will nor produce a trail. *_WNext we are using temperature at altitude calculator. For an example, +20° C at altitude of 4km gives us -6°C. More than enough contrails to be formed."_* Incorrect. *_"Yes, we see it as a few meters white trail behind the plane,which very fast diapers ( dissolved).This is normal way of watching any plane flying in the sky,whatever altitude it might be ( I mean higher than 4km,because planes normally flies approx 10 kms)"_* As explained, contrails do not "dissolve", they sublimate. *_"So,why on Earth,according this explanation,a plane ( usualy it works two of them to form squares),who flies low altitude, can leave trails behind on a hot summer day,which cannot be dissolved in a few hours?"_* Because, they are not as you claim flying low. You are simply seeing cruise altitude traffic intersecting. *_"Visually they are not flying higher than 3-4kms,compare to commercial planes,who flies visibly very high ( even then their contrails dissolved as normally and no white-stay forever- tails left behind, which would be very logical in their altitude and cold air). If it is 20-25°C on the ground,they vapour must be dissolved in the counted minutes,never mind hours to stay and hang over us.Any LOGICAL explanation,please?"_* Yes. Your claims of altitude are either erroneous or you are deceiving yourself. I'll ask you again, are you similarly perplexed by the duration of a cloud? Because jet fuel is a hydrocarbon, the chief products of combustion are CO2 and H2O. Since the oxygen adds to the mass, burning a gallon of jet fuel actually makes more than a gallon of water. In the regions that aircraft cruise (the lower stratosphere), the ambient air is not only very cold, but if the relative humidity is high and encountering a lower vapour pressure, the water in the exhaust will condense out as ice, forming a trail. It is important to note that simply because the temperature is below freezing, this does not mean that a contrail will be formed particularly if the air is very dry. Otherwise, airports would be blinded by contrails at ground level during winter every time there were sub zero temperatures. As explained, A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. In cases of high Rhi, then the trail will linger because the ice crystals are unable to sublimate back into the gaseous phase (water vapour). If the air is saturated in respect to ice, then the trail will expand, spread and increase in mass because it is almost entirely drawing upon the available atmospheric moisture. The water vapour in the exhaust gasses simply acted as the trigger event. As I indicated - this is the same process as a cloud, which is precisely what contrails are and all that your supposed 'chemtrails' are. If it were solely a function of temperature as you claim, then an aircraft would produce a contrail at full thrust for take off or near the ground every time it dropped below zero. Why are you struggling to comprehend this?
As an Air Force fighter pilot we kept track on the "conning altitude." Above that altitude our enemy could see us from a hundred miles away due to our contrails so we usually stayed below it. I don't believe jet contrails contain anything nefarious but I admit the government could put additives in jet fuel without pilots and ground crew knowing.
First thing I thought of. Not that I believe in chemtrqils but I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to have something added to the fuel with a mass amount of people knowing
@@PrfctPlyr It WOULD be hard to hide it from the thousands of air quality monitoring sites, all over the world. There is no evidence of ANY "something" added to the fuel for ANY purpose other than engine performance.
How effective would these additives be? In what concentrations could you add them to the fuel without messing it up? And it couldn't be anything alive, like a bateria or virus, since the jet fuel burns. We are also talking about spreading a diluted mix of fuel and "additives" over an immense volume of air, since these planes fly high. Let us now consider real situations where planes are used to spread chemicals: pesticide application. Crop dusters (the planes that do this) fly 8 to 12 feet from what they are spraying. Chemtrails are very unlikely.
Chem trails is definitely a subject I would love to find out about but seriously who is this guy Joe's speaking to. I've never been bored so listening to someone speak
@@wayneandrews4296 hahaha!! U would think that he'd b a little bit more enthusiastic when he speaks if he's earned all that cash. Honestly if I'm ever struggling to sleep I knw what JRE to put on 🤣🤣
@@CubisticPath845 very recently I witnessed 2 commercial sized planes flying side by side and leaving a train track sort of chem trail cloud across the sky. It was so weird. I mean why would 2 planes fly like that in the first place?? There is definitely something being sprayed over people if not then why don't we see trails following every plane all of the time?
For anyone who doesn't believe in Chemtrails go out to the country side, stay there for one week. Look up at the sky, not even a few days go by without having several planes forming their fumes, (it usually happens one or two days a week) only. He is trying to say that planes do it all the time, but not all the time- it only happens about twice a week, sometimes once a week. but if you stick around you will see that it always- always turns into major cloud systems, all from the fumes of the planes- I live on a farm and I will sit outside and watch it form. That is not nature, that's all I have to say. If it's not nature what is it??! I can usually predict that when I see the fumes forming into clouds that really nasty weather will follow within a day or two, this is without fail. Weather will either be extremely cold or rainy and windy. That's the question. Something is going on.
☟ . When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!"Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. [Quran 2 :11-12
Firstly, he is not saying anything of the sort. A contrail may be short lived, it may be persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. Whether it does and its length and duration are a consequence of the prevailing atmospheric conditions and the interrelationship between air temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure. Aircraft contrails are not 'fumes' - although they are a product of jet engine exhaust, they are formed by the water vapour present in this condensing out. If the ambient air is conducive they will form a cloud - a stream of ice crystals. Secondly, contrails are often the precursor of changing atmospheric conditions, unstable air and an approaching weather front. Therefore, they are the *_consequence_* not the *_cause_* of the changes in the weather that you associate with them.
We can see weather patterns ahead of time by radar. How does a “chemtrail” above a place in, let’s say Illinois, have any impact when we can see the weather pattern coming from the west days in advance? I’m open minded after all the COVID BS but I can’t understand how this is proof of anything.
I love reading this man’s comments. Such a joy to see proper grammar, extensive vocabulary, and a moral compass, on the internet. You are an awesome educator!
I used to think the same and this was impossible, then last week I learnt the chinese add silver iodine to the sky to make it rain as reported by the Guardian. World’s getting weird and weirder.
I did a project on cloud seeding in 3rd grade when we learned about the water cycle. Haven’t thought about it until now but it’s been happening for nearly 70 years.
Nothing wierd about silver idione cloud seeding, this is something we've known about for years. It just doesn't work well enough to be effective all the time. in other words it's more 'wishful thinking' than 'effective chemistry.'
@@Voluptuary what science qualifications do you have by the way ? .. just for clarity I have BSc Natural sciences ( chemistry / biochem ) and then MSc Analytical Chemistry .. 10 years working in pharma
yes and former CIA director jhon brennan already admitted they have a stratospheric aerosal injection program to manipulate weather and this video is from 2014 or 2016 can't remember, but it's definitly not a conspiracy.
I love this analogy that the pilots are involved. Why would they be involved into it? That’s like saying your phone is emitting radiation and you are involved into it. Most of the people have no idea how a phone works and spend way more time with the phone than a pilot flying .
Hey so can someone give an explanation about why I can watch two planes in the same area of sky with both having trails but while one disappeared(like it’s supposed to do) yet the other stream was miles long and never would disappear. This is the one thing that sold the conspiracy for me.
Well firstly why do you think that a trail is necessarily supposed to disappear? A contrail may be short lived, persistent of persistent spreading - or it may not form at all. In the regions that commercial aircraft cruise - the tropopause and lower stratosphere - the ambient air is frequently saturated in respect to ice. In cases of high RHi then a contrail will persist because the ice crystals are unable to sublimate back into the invisible gaseous phase (water vapour). However in cases of ice supersaturation, the water present in aircraft exhaust merely initiates the contrail. The growth comes from the available atmospheric moisture budget, which is precisely why a contrail can weigh millions of lbs. It is also the reason that it can expand, grow in mass, thicken and become indistinguishable from regular cirrus. What chemical can do that? The following paper tracked the development of contrail cirrus using a range of high‐resolution polar orbiting and lower‐resolution geostationary satellite instruments which was found to persist for a period of around 18 h, which at its peak covered over 50,000 km2. agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2009JD012650 To address your initial question, how are you establishing precise altitude of these aircraft? - which is impossible as a ground based observer. Even in view of Reduced Separation Minima regulations, these aircraft will be 1,000 feet apart vertically and five miles laterally and horizontally. That is not 'in the same area of sky'. Appreciate that the atmosphere is not homogeneous or isotropic. The interplay of factors that govern contrail formation - temperature, humidity and pressure - can change within a matter of mere feet. Think about the inside and the outside of a cloud. Do variations in cloud cover also perplex you?
You need to know the part of the atmosphere where the contrail happens. The atmosphere is something extremely complex and something that can change at any time. And, your eyes are not that far apart to measure distance beyond a few meters up in the air, so no, you cannot claim that 2 planes passed in "the same area", remember, never trust your senses 100%.
Gordon Freeman well it was two fedex planes. It was in Memphis and I know what all the planes look like and what airline it is. They were pretty close in the air to each other and were the exact same size. And the distance detween the two planes had to of been like 30-50 miles apart. But the guy above explained it to me using actual terminology and with a link as well where as you just said like one sentence which sounds like it came out of the first chapter of ya fifth grade science book
Ehh I disagree, seems like most of the time they just dig in deeper. So many conspiracy theorists are completely blind to strong evidence they’re wrong. Honestly I believe it’s because they research poorly, they’re always trying to prove themselves right so they’ll look for anything that confirms their feelings. Yet they almost always disregard trying to prove themselves wrong and it just forms a terrible feedback loop and they get deeper and deeper
Problem with down syndrome as your picture is that you cannot even go and check online Israel Cloud Insemination Inseminazione delle nuvole Simply using nanometals to attract clouds or push them away. Go check you downey 😂
We exhale vapor. It dissipates in seconds. Jets produce vapor. It cools down and dissipates in no more than 30 seconds on cold, humid days with little wind. When see trails from jets on warm to hot days, stay in the air for hours, turning beautiful blue skies with no clouds into ugly white skies that limits visibility from 30 miles plus to about 5 miles. I lived in Simi Valley and I documented on video blue SoCal morning with certain jets leaving Chemtrails, as an hour later the sun was blocked out and it turned to an ugly day. Joe and Will in this clip admit these clouds cool the earth (by refracting sunlight out of our atmosphere to cool the earth ie. Stop global warming agenda) NASA’s JPL in Pasadena did a lecture called Van Karman Lecture: GeoEngineering and Its Effects on Global Climate Change. 2/14/2014. GeoEngineering are real programs taken on by private and government bodies.
@@jamesgrosso8920 thats not at all what they said. He said they act like a blanket keeping the heat in and that we take more heat in durning the day than we release at night, thus the temperature rising. Did you even watch the 2nd half?
I don’t live near major airline flight corridors-if fact I live near a no flight zone near Fort Hood. Every once in a while the entire sky is covered by aircraft crossing the shy in a checkerboard pattern, which grow to cover the sky. I grew up in Lancaster Ca. Just outside Edwards Air Force Base, have seen plenty of con trails...what I’m seeing now ain’t no contrails. Sorry Joe, you be wrong
Knew a guy, he was big on conspiracy theories. I said to him one time dont go down that rabbit hole and response was " you know the rabbit hole and alice in wonderland are all part of Disney's paedophile agenda right". We don't talk anymore
@@-_a-a_- i know who Jimmy saville is and what he did. That wasnt my point. When i asked the guy i mentioned if him knowing the truth had made his life any better he said no. In fact its cost him most of his friends and every job he had since he started with it. Mainly because he wouldn't shut up about his truth.
You should have someone on the show to talk about Chem-trails and show evidence. If its such a hoax or far-fetched idea then it would be very easy to counter their examples by having a climate scientist on to retort the evidence. Personally, I'd like to see two guys go back and fourth on this for an episode.
@@montenunn3763 Yea Alex would debunk anything that has evidence behind it. That's exactly why he's banned for life. Can't even have a debate he's so "wrong" LOL does that make sense ?
Nano particles can be suspended very easily in our atmosphere. Aluminum or any other metal for that matter isn't any heavier than anything else at nano particle levels.
People new to the chemtrails conspiracy theory might want to check out HG Tudor’s series of videos, “Why do narcissists believe in conspiracy theories?”, released yesterday. It provides an excellent analysis of the psychology of the chemtrail believers.
Hell yeah, Rogan supports a professional debunker. So many interesting people around. Just great, made my day. Luckily done in short 18 minutes. Feel safe now....
Nothing, I'd guess because they haven't. You appear to be another one that referring to an appropriated speech by John Brennan in which he discusses transnational threats to global security that has been deceptively titled by chemtrail believers.
There are Chemtrails, it is also known as Geo Engineering, spraying Aluminum and Barium in the sky. Contrails you dont see for long because they dissapate in seconds, Chemtrails spread out over hours. Also in conjunction with HAARP, this does manipulate weather. Geo Engineering can also be called Cloudseeding which does cause rain
"There are Chemtrails" Only in minds of gullible online conspiracy believers. "it is also known as Geo Engineering" Incorrect. The perpetrators of this fraud have intentionally conflated the two. Geoengineering is a very broad term and it encompasses a range of strategies from carbon sequestering to marine cloud brightening. Most funding is directed into ocean fertilisation. If you are referring to research into Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, why do you suppose that it would resemble a large white trail in wake of a commercial airliner cruising in the upper troposphere? "Contrails you dont see for long because they dissapate in seconds" Explain why citing meteorological science. "Also in conjunction with HAARP, this does manipulate weather." Explain how supported by detailed atmospheric science - when you fail to do so, I'll explain to you the actual physics behind the High Frequency Activity Auroral Research Programme. "Geo Engineering can also be called Cloudseeding which does cause rain" Incorrect. Cloudseeding is localised weather modification and has nothing to do with climate intervention.
And why does that matter I guess you would have fought the government and told them to suck a dick lol your just a fat guy with a phone your over fed ass couldn't handle the truth
Thank you so much for making your podcasts I love them and your variety of guests. Also thanks to Mick Tony Hawk was one the games I played the most as a teenager! Sorry to debunk your debunktion in America maybe they've never sprayed chemicals on the people from planes but in the UK the government openly admitted to the MOD having done these kinds of tests on people after the relevant amount of years had passed for them to do so. It's been printed in many of our main stream newspapers with links to documents.
I find it amazingly funny that even just across the way, somehow the conspiracy has made its way to england and warped to fit in with your dislike of your government. can you really not take an intellectual step backwards are realise that your view on the conspiracy, which somehow involves your government openly admitting it (wtf like would be global news) is completely different to the dozens of other conspiracies in other countries..but somehow you believe englands version? how can you say something like maybe they didnt spray them from planes in america..the place where the conspiracy came from, but your version makes sense to you does it? just like only whatever religion one person believes is correct..not the thousands of others that exist no? the exact same thing with covid..everyones fucking government was the culprit? the irish government to the twats over here, the english government to you maybe? youre all somehow correct with completely conflicting and wildly varied stories and ''evidence'' all which contradict the thousands of other people doing the exact same ting? how can you people not realise the problem with that logic, what is actually going on in the average persons head to allow them to do that. Im genuinely concerned about 99 percent of you all doing this, its fucking batshit!!
@@yassassin6425 sheep that believe everything they're told will mock reality as they seem prefer to bury their head in the sand. It's actually happening all around us haha
@@kari8044 *_"sheep that believe everything they're told"_* Bleated the online conspiracy believer without the slightest hint of irony. *_"will mock reality as they seem prefer to bury their head in the sand."_* You people and reality were separated at birth. *_"It's actually happening all around us haha"_* What is precisely? - only you have yet to say.
I never had a reason to worry about the shape of earth, but I started to worry about the chemtrails after seeing them above my house, with my own eyes. I'm not interested in proving their existence, because the phenomenon is there and it's impssible to deny, so I'm just looking for explenation and reasons for its existence.
The soils get depleted and we become perpetually sick, never reaching out fullest potential. Constantly going to hospitals and doctors for help. Respiratory diseases. Our breath is life and connects us to God xx
This guest is a professional debunker. He does not believe what he is telling you, but believes you should believe what he is telling you. Scammers do this with ease.
They use silver iodide to help form clouds, called cloud seeding. They've been using it for decades. Basically they release a fog of the silver iodide into the air, and it allows water to easily collect around the small particulates of silver iodide, and create droplets of water. Silver iodide cloud seeding look Into it.
We did - and they have been observed far longer than that. The persistent spreading contrails that you are witnessing have been been documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years.
As a pilot, and a lifelong watcher of the sky, it is nice to have chemtrail debunkers, as it gives a few folks something to do. However, a contrail is water vapor. It cannot maintain for any real time in the high atmosphere. However, a chemtrail, or whatever you choose to call it, not only is this very different output immediately identifiable as NOT a normal contrail. A chemtrail, or whatever you choose to call it, not only remains in the air, diffuses and spreads, and in cases where these things are being spread in multiples, can fuzzy over the entire sky. I have seen chemtrails, or whatever you choose to call it, at altitudes where it is impossible to have a true contrail. I have seen chemtrails, or whatever you choose to call them, shut off instantly. A normal contrail cannot do that. A contrail can only occur where it is cold enough that it freezes, after which the particles fall out of the air. You don't have to research this, you just have to watch the sky. There are two different entities up there, legitimate contrails, and ? You need to do your homework Mr. Rogan. Your guest is talking smack.
Hilarious. Isn't the internet a wonderful thing? You can be anything you want to. A contrail is not water vapour, which is an invisible gas - and you are clearly not a pilot. The rest of your post is the usual parroted nonsense and personal incredulity.
@@hikerlarrypackgoaterrobins8575 The 1500 + hours you have consuming online junk conspiracy would be a more accurate statement. No credible 'pilot' would mistake water vapour for condensation, let alone subscribe to this chemtrails nonsense. You initial post betrays a shocking ignorance of basic atmospheric science and aviation.
Then I suggest that you "check" again. Water vapour is an invisible gas. Condensation is the phase change of the state of matter from a gas into the liquid phase - the reverse of vaporisation. This occurs in one of two ways - either the air is cooled to its dew point or it becomes saturated that it cannot hold any more water in its gaseous state. Very, very elementary science.
Haha I've never seen a more crazy person. It's a bag of fun when he's on the show. The episode where he discusses his flat Earth theories and his explanation of them is just a perfect picture of why conspiracy theorists exist. He ignores facts and has his own baseline of "facts", and everything on the internet, except of course his own sources, is fake and "what they want you to think".
That it's an embarrassing obligatory cliche used by dumb conspiracy believers? I'm sure that he's equally as accustomed to 'sheep' and very dim uninformed people telling him to 'wake up'.
I know its been years ago since this video BUT it s very clear, the sky above here is being sprayed MAX this evening.... a concert with Rammstein is going on this evening just 800 m away from my balcony and the sky is loaded with trails/plains all over the concert. I have no doubt there is a connection between this band and devils cologne ..... just needed to share with somebody not accusing me of being insane
@@nuclearcloud9239 I was joking. If they suck, then why have you been listening to them longer than I've been alive? Surely you would have stopped? - I mean it's not as if it's not avoidable. (incidentally, that's not possible since I'm 54). Anarcho-punk certainly isn't everyone's bag I'll grant you that, but lyrically it's very clever. 'Christ - The Album' and 'Feeding of the 5,000' are two of may favourite punk albums of all time. If you dislike Crass, then avoid 'Conflict' and 'Flux of Pink Indians' like the coronavirus mate.
Hey Joe! Your guest should at least speak with a physicist before he makes a fool of himself. The trails left by jet aircraft at high altitude are referred to as contrails. This refers to condensing. When an aircraft travels at high speed it collides with the air in front of it. The air can't be pushed out of the way fast enough and it gets compressed. This compression causes moisture within the air to condense and become visible, like a cloud. Leaving a trail of condensed, cloud like, visible moisture behind the aircraft. After the plane has passed, within a few seconds, the air expands again and the moisture is no longer visible; the contrail disappears. This is not how a chemtrail behaves. A chemtrail persists, remains visible, expands, and settles toward the ground. You really shouldn't have guests like this on your show. It casts a shadow of doubt onto all of your other guests as well.
Contrails are formed by jet engine exhaust. Take a look at the Wikipedia pic at the top of this page--you'll see four contrails, one for each engine. When you are at altitude you can see one contrail per engine. As the hot, relatively moist engine exhaust is cooled the moisture condenses into a long, thin "cloud."
@Bigfacts1 Joe doesn’t read these comments. He’s been very vocal about that fact for years. He refuses to read them; always has. You’re wasting your time trying to tell the most successful podcaster in history how to do his job. That said, I’m now the second pilot in your comments that’s going to tell you that your “facts” are off. First guy was military, I’m a corporate jet jockey. You’re the one that needs to learn what you’re talking about before you make comments because you’ve now lost all credibility. You got it partly correct, but not all. Trying reading sometime.
6 years later and it certainly is not a conspiracy in the least bit. People. Listen up. Literally. Wake up. Listen to what people say. I’m so embarrassed for you Joe. Have an open mind maybe ??
I once told a guy that the condensation from a car on a cold day is water. He says “naw that’s just the smoke coming out of the engine” I explained that water is a byproduct of hydrocarbon reactions. He says “nah there’s no water in the engine” So I begin to try to explain chemistry and the law of conservation of matter and he responds “that’s not true, you can burn stuff and it’s gone, where does it go?” That’s when I decided that America is fundamentally doomed because they’ve imposed on us the useless principal that all people are equally privileged to share the same air by virtue of their existence. We have to go back.
I noticed that the trails stopped happening all at once the week after the international travel lockdown was announced in early spring 2020. The abscence has continued for 5 months so far.
No it hasn't. I've seen contrails throughout, There was never a complete cessation of commercial air traffic whilst air freight was largely unaffected.
Because aircraft fly to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. Why is it even necessary to explain this?
@@danielkunz2393 ??? You think domestic and international air traffic only flies over built up areas? Simply because you don't understand something or it doesn't add up to you had no bearing upon reality. You incredulity is irrelevant. I suggest you look up air traffic route maps or use tracking software. The sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
I am not a conspiracy theorist, however, for 2 straight years I have not noticed a single comtrail, condensation etc. When my kids were young, we used to count them throughout the day and try to determine the busiest time of day for air travel over our house. Back then I thought of these trails as condensation/exhaust which is what I told my kids. So I do question why we no longer see them ever in the sky above us. Just seems strange to see them daily every year for 2 decades and last 2 years to not see a single one.
I see them all the time! In fact I saw some last Wednesday when I was out working. Its simple science is to why you can see them sometimes but not always.
Harvard universities Prof David Keith, has been recorded dozens of times reporting his progress with Geoengineering. check out Harvard's web site. Do an internet search on Prof David Keith, Geoengineer. Remember: In these days of information freedom and access, IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE. Whilst we are at it, here's a few gems from David Keith, via Dane Wigington, Anti-geoengineering Warrior (that's what i call him) th-cam.com/video/SZwOXbpuS8U/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/C2XNAvAo44o/w-d-xo.html&lc=z22hgtaq2nbit0f1m2hd0sbe5b03ty2h4s53ind1zj00u00c2.1516933258130760 and I saved the best for last. In this next clip, David Keith freely admits (at 2:40 minutes) that as a direct result of his geoengineering weather modification program they WILL "... end up KILLING MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR..." th-cam.com/video/SipxiZabLxA/w-d-xo.html&feature=em-uploademail And for those INTELLECTUALS who like to troll and support this type of channel, here's some REAL READING for you. David Keith's proposal to move geoengineering atmospheric spraying of nanoparticles of metals (aka Chemtrails) UP INTO THE STRATOSPHERE where he will have us SPRAYED WITH SULFURIC ACID instead! A short snibbit of his Report for your edification and information under the heading: "Knowledge gap 2: potential human health impacts: Epidemiological studies suggest a relationship between exposure to mists containing sulfuric acid and an increased incidence of laryngeal cancer, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer has concluded that “occupational exposure to strong inorganic mists containing sulfuric acid is carcinogenic for humans”
"Harvard universities Prof David Keith, has been recorded dozens of times reporting his progress with Geoengineering. check out Harvard's web site. Do an internet search on Prof David Keith, Geoengineer." I don't need to - I'm fully aware of his research proposals which have been in the public domain for years together with the ethical ramifications surrounding his recommendations. "Remember: In these days of information freedom and access, IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE." Remember, in these days of information, freedom and access, objectivity is a must. "Whilst we are at it, here's a few gems from David Keith, via Dane Wigington, Anti-geoengineering Warrior (that's what i call him)" What's your point? "and I saved the best for last. In this next clip, David Keith freely admits (at 2:40 minutes) that as a direct result of his geoengineering weather modification program they WILL "... end up KILLING MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR..." The best bit for last???? A Dane Wigington video? Are you serious? He says nothing of the sort. This is a brief clip taken wholly out of context which is precisely the MO of conspiracy theorists. Doesn't the tacky music and sensationalist narration tell you anything or arouse your suspicions? Keith has never denied that SAI properly evaluated before it is employed. The entire quote is stressing that if such a strategy was ever pursued without due diligence, you "might" end up killing tens of thousands of people as a direct result of that decision so the research if you care to read it is also committed to assessing the dangers of SRM prior to deployment. Assessing efficacy and risks are detailed here.. geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/ As a former meteorologist (my current field is the science of remote sensing) I can tell you that there is huge opposition to the notion of SAI. In terms of geoengineering, more funding and research is diverted into ocean fertilisation. The lack of political and public will, the logistical barriers and the ethical, soci-ecomnomic and geo-political implications combined means that SAI is very unlikely to become a reality and progress beyond the small scale trials scheduled for the next few years. Elsewhere, independent studies are assessing the ethics of such proposals... scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=philosophy_pubs "who like to troll and support this type of channel" I think you'll find as the one posting your ill informed subjective content on this channel by definition, the troll is you - and for an example of such behaviour at its worst perhaps read the preceding post to mine which presumably you condone? "David Keith's proposal to move geoengineering atmospheric spraying of nanoparticles of metals (aka Chemtrails) UP INTO THE STRATOSPHERE where he will have us SPRAYED WITH SULFURIC ACID instead!" Firstly chemtrails are an online hoax originally perpetrated in the late 1990s by "shock jocks" such as Art Bell on Cost to Coat AM a commercial station that manufactures conspiracy theory to order to inflate ratings and thus sell more advertising airtime. Chemtrails are the erroneous belief that contrails in the wake of civil aircraft are evidence of chemical spraying. Meanwhile on the coattails of cheap conspiracy theory, charlatans such as Wigington are committed to conflating this with geoengineering hoodwinking the gullible, suggestible and scientifically ignorant - and it is precisely that which Rogan and West are debunking in this video. Moving up into the stratosphere???? It's called Stratospheric Aerosol Injection - it has always been designated for altitudes between 65-70,000ft. Now allow me to educate you... The purpose of SAI has always been clearly defined. The aim is to simulate the cooling effects of a major volcanic eruption after which large quantities of sulphur dioxide and hydrochloric acid are ejected into the mid stratosphere. Once formed, these aerosols stay in the stratosphere for about two years. They reflect sunlight, reducing the amount of energy reaching the lower atmosphere and the Earth's surface, cooling them. The relative coolness of 1993 is thought to have been a response to the stratospheric aerosol layer that was produced by the Mt. Pinatubo eruption. The relative influence of volcanoes on the Junge layer varies considerably according to the number and size of eruptions in any given time period, and also of quantities of sulphur compounds released. The stratospheric aerosol layer is sustained by natural emissions of carbonyl sulphide (OCS) through biogenic processes. Carbonyl sulphide is relatively stable can mix into the stratosphere where it is photochemically broken down resulting in the formation of microscopic droplets of sulphuric acid. Keith has identified a range of possible materials to simulate/catalyse this process. Small scale trials commence this summer involving one KG of material. The objective is beyond that o disperse water, followed by small quantities of calcium carbonate and possibly hydrogen sulphide. Such stratospheric particles exist as thin veils of dust or sulphuric acid droplets at altitudes of 12 to 18 miles. "A short snibbit of his Report for your edification and information under the heading: "Knowledge gap 2: potential human health impacts: Epidemiological studies suggest a relationship between exposure to mists containing sulfuric acid and an increased incidence of laryngeal cancer, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer has concluded that “occupational exposure to strong inorganic mists containing sulfuric acid is carcinogenic for humans” - Occupational exposure...what's your point? Your extract is from one of the papers that I referred to in respect of the full evaluation of SAI should it ever be implemented. And here is the paper in its entirety and full context. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4717532/ I quote directly from the abstract... "There is also little infrastructure in place to evaluate potential public health impacts in the event that stratospheric aerosols are deployed for solar radiation management. We offer several recommendations intended to help characterize the potential occupation and public health impacts of SRM, and suggest that a comprehensive risk assessment effort is needed before this approach to geoengineering receives further consideration."
''snibbit'' IS .'. NOT A WORD Twat ... 'Snipit' IS Though !" If you read again Lou, you will see that 'snibbit' was quoted directly from the preceding post from Josephine Hogg - hence the quotation marks. Her words not mine. How unfortunate for you. Incidentally, would you like to discuss Rosalind Peterson in more detail?
They are completely missing the fact that the aluminum samples being found in these water and soil samples is free form aluminum which cannot be found in nature and can only be man made.
Jeez, this again? Seriously, how many times. Do you actually understand what ICP-MS actually is? - and why this is significant for the few samples of pond sludge that conspiracy theorists have submitted to analytical laboratories? And this is completely false. Aluminium has many natural pathways into the environment. The levels that are found in soil and water are completely normal. And even if they weren't - where is the demonstrable link to those long white trails in the sky, six to eight miles above your head that you don't understand?
I live near Dulles and National airports. The day starts off with a clear blue sky, then as the planes fly over they leave chemtrails which spread out and turn what should be a sunny day into a cloudy day. Planes did not use to do this. There didn't used to be grid patterns in the skies.
Jet aircraft have always produced contrails and the grid patterns you are observing are perfectly normal. Neither have anything to do with your proximity to airports. Persistent contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years.
@@yassassin6425 Radiative forcing effect ? Contrails by day = cool, by night= global warming. Mick West says so? A MI5/6 video game and internet virus programmer? If addicting kids to a 'screen' , is the mark of a good human being......all praise Mick. By his theory here (car exhaust).....then cars should leave a 'contrail' that lasts half a day behind them. Like old films of the ww2 'bomber armadas', they dissapate after a few plane lengths.......LOOK UP. Planes not spraying, still do. Some footage even shows this, one plane it dissapates, the other plane leaves a trail for hours. Both in the same atmospheric conditions. There is a large body of corrupt retards that use thinktanks(research) , to counter theorys, and justify with bullshit their agendas.....like the Brookings Institution. There is also, a large body of researchers, trying to figure out what goes on behind these 'closed door meetings'. To our paranoid govts, Mick West is the answer .....to stop these pesky investigators .....to explain in psyco-babble, what politicians REFUSE to. * the basic allegory, is its like a 'blanket', and keeps the warmth in. Yearly temps have risen , each hotter than last. ......that blanket is getting thicker, and thicker. a bit like peoples brains......isnt jesus coming on a cloud? A talking snake=the devil......In God We Tru$T ?..... BIBLE BELT ~ a region of VIRGINian MARYland, where the young are 'Belted' around the head, with a heavy KJV. why dont u go and explain to Christians how wrong they are...... instead of attacking a rational intelligent comment .......who highlighted the absurdity. 14mins of ridiculing, and they are nothing......then close with contrails may be good for climate change..........is this your "radiative forcing effect" ? Who FORCED Radioactive West, on to Joes program? Who pays BOTH their wages? Murdoch..a Knight of St Gregory...papal propagandi....Mockingbird Master of the CIA.
@@deanhall9292 Yeah, radiative forcing... Actually, science says that. Mick West is irrelevant. The rest of your diatribe is as farcical as it is irrational. All the best airing these views to the rational and informed beyond the comments section of You Tube.
@@yassassin6425 Yeah......its a Radio-activated Farce alright. An ex-comedian turned commentator, and a ex-video gamer turned debunker are the EXPERT opinions? Mick West is irrelevant.....>......about time u saw the 'light', john. Thanks John. My theory must have been highly RELEVANT on his Metabunk~ chemtrail debunking website. He DELETED it, then BANNED me. Pattern Perception? My theory on MH370 was DELETED on "anonymous' too.....as i was writing my closing paragraph in real time. Today? TH-cam?......"Comments are Disabled for this video"....seems to be a pattern, an agenda there too.......especially anything on Vatican Pedophilia. just like there is a pattern here. Trolls attacking rational comments....and slandering us as Chemtards......paranoid bunnys in rabit holes.....or addicted to flat-earth videos. it links to HAARP........i suppose all this is a delusional, cloud in the sky too is it? UFOS > "This Video Does Not Exist"......i must be delusional, i watched it yesterday, and somone posted some video there.........if u havent noticed that pattern...well...where the hell have u been?......oh thats right, scientific experts tell us they dont exist..... well why has Pentagon admitted the video, confirmed with pilot testimony? is it any wonder the public is CONFUSED and seeking answers elsewhere......
@@deanhall9292 No need for "experts" - the science speaks for itself. Everything that you have just written is nonsensical, pseudoscientific conspiratorial junk. Link me to the metabunk thread that you were banned from, - let's see why - only it seems you forgot.
I work as a uber driver and picked up this business guy and we were talking about chemtrails. He told me he used to think it was bs and didn't believe it one bit, he then told me he had a son in the air force. After 6 months when his son came home they talked and his son told him that they do spray the chemtrails. He told me his son didn't go into detail but said it's weather related. I personally don't think my passenger was bs me because super professional business guy. It wouldn't surprise me to be real
Its cloud seeding, weather modification, its not Dangerous. And it is publicly open information, no secret there. Multiple countries do it to avoid flood, or for rain to stop burning jungle. Chemtrail is non sense. If chemtrail real. They should target third world countries to reduce their population, and should not happen in US where the so called illuminati living, why they poison their own peoples or family or themself. Chemtrails usually appears in heavy airplane traffic which are not in third world countries.
BS labels, they like those. Chem trails and "helping the US battle climate change" is what Germany admitted to 15 years ago. Not knowing or not caring to find out they were actually creating basis for the BS of climate change, aka weather manipulation.
My husband was military. I am sure there are plenty of military secrets he never told me. Pretty sure they sign a contract to that effect. It's not little local pilots. There's a big difference between a condensation trail and a chemical trail. Geo engineering or cloud seeding has been going on since the 70s.
Geoengineering and cloud seeding are completely unrelated and has nothing whatsoever to do with the contrails that you are seeing. Regarding the Spanish Royal Decree, the Spanish government instituted a series of extensive and in some cases, outright bizarre measures in order to mitigate the economic and social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, there is no mention of aerial spraying of biocides bar inference found on chemtrail conspiracy websites and fake news outlets such as Mike Adams' ludicrous 'Natural News'. Fluoride is not added by all water authorities. Because it can strengthen and re-mineralise damaged enamel, making it more resistant to decay, it may be added to public drinking water and also toothpaste and mouthwash. Contrary to what you might hear, fluoride is a mineral that occurs in nature and is also naturally present in water, including our food. Where additions are made it is less than 0.1 ppm. So no need to get your pineal gland in a twist.
@@yassassin6425 completely unrelated? Oh you mean like COVID Vax is completely unrelated to anybody dying suddenly or the 2022 hike in all cause death rate? Sure! Completely unrelated. 😉 Gotcha.
@@roseparkerartist9657 What on earth are you talking about? Jeez, I've seen some tangential non-sequiturs from you people, but this is frankly staggering. Let me type it again, very slowly this time. Geoengineering...and...cloud seeding...are...completely...unrelated. Furthermore...neither...have...anything...to...do...with...aircraft...contrails.
Anybody live on the border of Mexico specifically South Texas. Chemtrails conspiracy or not they somehow mysteriously stop as planes cross overhead into Mexico and start as plains cross back into the US. I see it pretty often. I've been told by pilots that far South Texas and the Gulf of Mexico play a big part and why those chemtrails start and stop. Maybe I should try to catch it on video.
I've got videos and albums. People are waking up. I have a friend in Venezuela and he says they don't get them there. But friends in the Uk and Ireland do.
FYI Joe why would they make it rain to stop "fires" they create yearly. I lived in Mexico for over a decade not one fire and it's hot and dry brush everywhere in the summertime not one fire. I come to California yearly fires 🤔. They even call it fire season 😂 like it's a program time to light it up. I always say the truth is in common sense, logic and a little research.
My research clearly shows that when you left Mexico you were deprived of the steroid laced beef that was making you a macho man and now you're a wimpy girly man which has turned you into a crazy firestarter
lots of eucalyptus trees there imported ages ago from australia, that shit is filled to the brim with highly flammable eucalyptus oil and during summers they go wild, just look at the 2020 australian fires and copy paste that into california
Well there is a larger volume of air traffic today and associated routes flown, so aircraft contrails are more prevalent. However, persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years. *_"The government websites are full of information on geoengineering."_* Perhaps you should read it and then you'd understand what it actually consists of and why it has absolutely nothing to do with a dumb online conspiracy theory originating from the misidentification of aircraft contrails.
Firstly, the word that you're looking for and unsuccessfully parroted is 'dissipate'. Secondly, instead of regurgitating what junk online conspiracy theory has told you to think, could you actually apply the known atmospheric science that determines this? Please explain which, detailing the physical laws that apply. Thirdly, what if you were to actually learn some meteorological science for yourself, and were to discover that contrails can indeed persist, expand and increase in mass? What then for your online conspiracy belief?
That Mick West is the rabbit. Psyco babble, and PAID expert de-bunker, like priests play on fear of dying, he plays on words to make his sound sane. @TMA (alumina added to avgas/kero).....@OBIGGS(retrofitted for tank explosions) @SBX-1 (microwaves off alumnina ionosphere)......its for that storm steering earthquake maker. Joe Rogan is jesuit aligned NWO....like psci-kop skeptic West.
@@yassassin6425 Mick West DELETED and BANNED me from Metabunk a few yrs back when i posted this. Obviously. its too near the truth. its TMA, ....OBIGGS were retro fitted....where is the SBX-1?
Perhaps you can become the first ever chemtrail believer to actually state the means to differentiate between your supposed 'chemtrails' and those persistent contrails that have been observed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude aviation and in excess of 80 years. Go ahead then.
Silver nitrate to make it rain. They actually do this in Dubai once a month. I wouldn't assume that is the only chemical/purpose for chemtrails either.
Incorrect - you are referring to silver iodide which is just one method of cloud seeding - and it isn't done once a month in Dubai at all. Cloud seeding can only work when there are existing clouds that are conducive to precipitation to seed. It does not create them. Cloud seeding has been practiced to mixed success since the 1950s. If you wish to term it 'chemtrails' then more fool you but it has nothing whatsoever to do with the misidentified contrails that are the origin and basis of this conspiracy theory.
I never believed in Chem trails, until one night out on a walk with my wife, it was around 6 pm, we looked up into the sky and there was a perfect "checker board" pattern as far as the eye could see
@@yassassin6425 no...he means checkerboard. Given the fact that there is a small portion of commercial air traffic since the pandemic began, why would there be the same proportion of cemtrails in the sky? Right.
@@erinyager1059 *_"no...he means checkerboard."_* Appreciating that the sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace? *_"Given the fact that there is a small portion of commercial air traffic since the pandemic began, why would there be the same proportion of cemtrails in the sky? Right."_* Wrong. Firstly, chemtrails don't exist, they are simply misidentified contrails? And how have you established this? Although commercial air traffic was practically grounded initially it was reduced by about 60% in response to the initial global lockdowns between spring to summer. Nonetheless, air freight continued to fly. In fact in October, cargo was up 15% on 2019. Where are you located? I'll tell you precisely how many flights passed over you on any single day. Yesterday - the 12th December there were 63,000 flights worldwide. Quick question for you out of interest, do you now how much one of these persistent trails weighs?
@@mrkraffbs9583 Yeah, 'debate' is a somewhat of a misnomer I'm afraid. Ever attempted to establish rational and constructive discourse with a chemtrail conspiracy believer? Try it.
I miss when TH-cam didn't censor. I loved listening to the conspiracy theories, doesn't mean I think the Earth's flat, but i was entertained. I guess it's not allowed because there's too many stupid people 🙁
The difference between a normal cloud and a chemtrail cloud. Put a big bowl of vinegar outside your house. See what happens. If you want to get rid of chemtrail clouds spray vinegar outside your house.
Could you explain the precise science behind a few litres of a liquid in a bowl that is 93-96% water dispelling clouds that are six to eight miles above it?
Yes this guy knows without a shadow of a doubt and with 100% certainty that our government could never do anything covertly or without his knowledge because he’s so smart. /s
So you claims governments have the ability to defy the laws of physics to leave persistent trails hundreds of miles long that somehow spread and grow in mass over time and have been measured to weigh tens of millions of pounds.
my state has a weather modification committee licensed by the Texas Dept. of Licensing and Registration (TDLR) they apply for permits for cloud seeding. They hold almost monthly meetings open to the public and videos online in which you can see and hear them talk about spraying chemicals out of their airplanes for weather modification purposes. Dubai also makes it rain through cloud seeding because the Prince likes rain. They do it every weekend. Also main stream very easy to find. Like first google page results easy. Was this discussed?
But no one one is denying the existence of cloud seeding programmes both state and privately sponsored. What's your point? This video is about misidentified contrails that conspiracy theorists term chemtrails. Why should it be discussed? Secondly, Dubai does not make it rain "every weekend" that is absolutely false. Cloud seeding only works when there are existing clouds to seed - those that are conducive to precipitation.
13:43 I don’t believe in chem-trails, but as an engineer I can speak to the chemistry of aluminum. Metallic aluminum is what joe is referring to, and it is also what anti-vax people refer to. However, ionic aluminum looks like powder. So, I do have to get after Joe about making the assumption that he knows what aluminum would look like falling from the sky.
prandz420 depends how high it is released. I can’t say for sure, but it should act similarly to dust in the air. Thus, becoming nucleation sites for water to collect. Typically, they call it “cloud seeding”.
Charlie R hey, last night one of the most inbred states in the union elected a decent human over an accused pedophile. There’s not a lot, but there is some hope.
@@jonmacist Prince was addicted to Fentanyl. I suggest that you read up on the circumstances surrounding his passing which are well understood. His belief in nonsensical conspiracy theory was neither here nor there and actually, although he mentioned it on a few occasions in interviews, quite an inconsequential part of his life, So what 'scientist' was he allegedly due to have this meeting with and what's your source?
@@yassassin6425 yeah and someone probaly gave him to much of it or it was something else sad for you you believe MSM and government just like anyone you is about to speak on something dies from suicide, car accident, or overdoes lol evey time do reshearch there was a interview where he said he wondered about the chemtrails, and found people aacting crazy or different he was supsose to speak somewhere just after that interview, just saying he is to have this other interview like like not even 2 weeks later but dies, you said he had a fentalyl addcition thats what MSM says no proof , just saying the time frame is too close that is like saying i am gonna get fire insurance and 3 days your house burns down.
He should call him again to explain the big reset, covid 19 and many many more conspiracies that have proven to be correct
Which ones?
And the fact that the military have admitted that they want full weather control with in the next 8 years
It’s a pretty great reset tbh
@@davidwarren9939 where ? The u.s. military ?
In israel we cannot find in the flight radar the planes that do the trails.
the ministers in the government told the people who asked about this subject that they know about the trails but they don't share more info about it.
They just said that "military planes do not fly for exercises above citizen's cities"
😑😐
Haha, Israel!
Q)What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and a scientific fact?
A)Usually about 6-12 months.
This again? Any more hackneyed clichés. Even more amusing since this very dumb conspiracy theory in particular has existed for over 25 years.
@@yassassin6425 The building blocks of our history are conspiracies. Therefore those who call others conspiracy theorist are either simply stupid
or part of the conspiracy. Without studying history and read books I understand you can't comprehend the cruel facts of reality....
@@divinusmaximus1315
*_"The building blocks of our history are conspiracies"_*
As opposed to dumb internet _conspiracy theories_ perpetrated by opportunistic exploitation and intentionally targeting the gullible and critically impaired.
*_"Therefore those who call others conspiracy theorist are either simply stupid or part of the conspiracy."_*
Great logic there mate - clever lad. Those shape shifting reptilians must be real after all. Right, I'm off the Infowars merchandise page straight away - also, when's David Icke on tour next?
*_"Without studying history and read books I understand you can't comprehend the cruel facts of reality...."_*
Of course people, governments, agencies and organisations conspire - no one is disputing that. However, simply because they do, it doesn't therefore logically follow that 'chemtrails' or any other random conspiracy *_theory_* of one's arbitrary choice or devising must therefore be real or true. A syllogistic logical fallacy of the undisputed middle.
Why are you people utterly unable to comprehend this?
@@divinusmaximus1315 that’s always how conspiracy theorists defend their degree in watching tiktok videos. Wasting your time
@@ithan8069 I wrote my words despite I never created a conspiracy theory myself. I read a lot of books (sometimes 2-3 simultaneously) I know history very well this is why I wrote what I wrote.
Until you don't start to read books to know historical facts, you can enjoy your life in ignorance. Human ignorance can be very devastating. It is so sad when I hear people for example who still believe that Oswald killed JFK.
Greetings from Hungary!
i am 60. my uncle was a sky writer. we NEVER had ''persistent'' contrails until the mid 90's. debunkers can debunk. those with brains, lets all talk!
It's not a case of debunking, what you have just claimed is demonstrably false. Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years. This is independently verifiable.
@@yassassin6425 WAKE UP TROLL OR SCHILL
@@MrTodfoulk
Sigh. So in common with your ilk, you predictably completely ignore the topic and resort to the same old obligatory personal attack instead in rabid caps lock. Even then, you can't even parrot the word 'shill' correctly, far less actually understand what it means. As the one posting ill informed nonsense, unsubstantiated claims, junk conspiracy theory and personal abuse in the comments section of this video, by virtue of its very definition, the troll would be none other than yourself. Moreover, you are shilling conspiracy theory, which if you hadn't noticed (of course you haven't), is highly lucrative form of exploitation for those that peddle it. And to cap it all, you exhort me to 'wake up' - are you really you're 60, not 6? The only one's still sad enough to be using this cretinous conspiratorial cliché are the ones that slept through science classes.
I simply challenged your claims - and how you people absolutely detest that.
Yes persistent spreading contrails did exist before the 1990s, a fact that you can routinely independently verify for yourself if you had either the integrity, the honesty, the will and the critical capability to do so. Nothing whatsoever to do with me.
@@yassassin6425 Do some research on geoengineering. Or more specifically, solar geoengineering and cloud seeding. TPTB are not even hiding it these days; they just don't talk about it publicly.
I lived for 17 years close to an airport and I saw contrails pretty much every day (very distinctive parallel lines that disappeared at a constant distance of the plane). Chemtrails do not form parallel lines; they form a single "cloud" that expands over time and stays there for hours. That's cloud seeding precisely. If you can't see the difference, I have bad news for you.
Wake the hell up.
@@yassassin6425 You just stay in lalaland.....I know what I know!!!
4 years later and it’s not looking like a conspiracy anymore…
Why's that? Nothings changed.
@@yassassin6425 yeah if you’re still living under a rock and with a herd mentality, more information and proof of these chemtrails are surfacing and being shared and the amount of people questioning them have gone up tenfold
@@TheExidion
*_"yeah if you’re still living under a rock and with a herd mentality"_*
Said the online conspiracy believer.
*_"more information and proof of these chemtrails are surfacing and being shared and the amount of people questioning them have gone up tenfold"_*
Really? - then you'll have no problem presenting your best piece of evidence then. I absolutely guarantee I've heard/seen it many, many, many times before and despite being comprehensively debunked, that it has been batted about your vacuous echo chamber for years.
@@yassassin6425 sure you got an email address I can send you my presentation? Better yet I can do a power point for you and then you can do one back to counter me? Why not make a debate fun huh?
But for now there are many examples of cloud seeding companies that exist specially in the USA, many patents exist that demonstrate the means of releasing materials in our atmosphere, there is even an episode on top gear of a massive cloud generating device which forms a cloud which then soaks him! And don’t forget the olympics in Athens and what did they do? Sent rockets and devices to clear away all clouds! And then you have our friends mr bill gates with his proposal of dumping calcium carbonate into the atmosphere to “reflect” sunlight and which they’re probably already doing because the technology already exists!
I don’t think that you’re not intelligent but you are definitely wilfully ignorant to the world around you. Back when smoking was popular and endorsed by doctors before the general population would accept they were causing health problems, just like one of those that just accepting the narrative that of the masses until over time they change their mindset because its no longer deniable- that’s who you are.
Well then Joe is also a conspiracy theorist for his views on ivermectin, thing is I’d much rather be of sound mind questioning what I am told and not just accepting something just cause everyone else does rather than someone who just shouts and gets infuriated by anyone who holds a different view to them.
@PSYOP SLAYER he probably looked into it and had his mind blown 🤣
You actually can make it rain it's called cloud seeding
Indeed, although the science behind it is disputed and the results erratic. What's your point?
Found this about seeding clouds:
th-cam.com/video/8GQAXxmiSdk/w-d-xo.html
True story
@matthew martin
No one is disputing the fact that weather modification in the form of cloud seeding exists Matthew, it is neither secretive and the internet is full of organisations that freely promote and advertise contracts and services. Not sure what this has to do with the ill-informed belief that persistent contrails are anything other than the product of condensed water vapour in the wake of jet aircraft cruising in the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere.
@@yassassin6425 No it isn't. They did it in Vietnam. And what year are we in now? Do the math.
Chemtrails and flat Earth? Will mentioning a third conspiracy in the same podcast instantly summon Eddie Bravo in Beetlejuice style?
Hey imagine if we get beatlejuice on Joe's pod cast like how fucking awsome would that be man lol
The cool little funny black beatjuice I mean ha
Justin Johnson geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/publications/multilateral-parametric-climate-risk-insurance-tool-facilitate-agreement-about
"Have you heard that space is fake? Look into it..."
Nobody7720 dark matter is real space is real vaccines are bullshit get on it!
I've seen contrails since growing up in the 60s. Contrails are slender, elegant vapor trails that remain briefly way up in the stratosphere before fading away. Chemtrails, on the other hand, are something I only began to notice in the last 10-20 years. They look like the exhaust from a pollution-spewing jalopy and they hang way down here in the troposphere, often crisscrossed with many other such trails as they slowly spread out and merge with one another into hazy, unsightly "clouds" composed of Lord knows what. When you notice one or two of them, scan the horizon. Chances are it'll be a heavy chemtrail day and you'll see a lot more of them all around.
*_"Contrails are slender, elegant vapor trails that remain briefly way up in the stratosphere before fading away."_*
Sometimes. On other occasions, they may not even necessarily form at all, or, if the ambient conditions are conducive then they may expand and spread of be fanned out by high altitude wind shear.
*_"Chemtrails, on the other hand, are something I only began to notice in the last 10-20 years."_*
Since you heard about this conspiracy theory then?
*_"They look like the exhaust from a pollution-spewing jalopy and they hang way down here in the troposphere, often crisscrossed with many other such trails as they slowly spread out and merge with one another into hazy, unsightly "clouds" composed of Lord knows what"_*
You said it yourself - clouds. That's all they are. The contrails that you are misidentifying as 'chemtrails' are nothing more than persistent spreading cirrus and they are composed of condensed water vapour in the form of ice. This is measurable and demonstrable. Also, what mysterious 'chemical' is able to expand when released, increase in mass and vastly exceed the maximum take off weight of the aircraft producing it? And of course they appear to intersect?The sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
*_"When you notice one or two of them, scan the horizon. Chances are it'll be a heavy chemtrail day and you'll see a lot more of them all around."_*
Or more specifically at those altitudes, low temperature combined with high relative humidity and low vapour pressure. Who'd have thought?
@@LH23511
*_"Well said. I noticed the difference, when I would walk my dogs around 2010 . The contrails got much thicker and would spread out like thick tendrils. And another would come beside it, and they would merge and cloud the sky."_*
Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years.
*_"This summer, we would have 9 hours of sun predicted every day. Instead we would have a couple hours in the morning, and then the sky would get hazy. We haven’t had a full day of sun in over a month - 2 months, here in Ontario."_*
Have you actually thought of looking into the meteorological conditions that have determined this?
*_"I also put a bowl of vinegar out, and it would make a big clear hole in the sky on a windless day. Acid of vinegar dissipates the alkalinity of barium and aluminum. It opens the sky above your house."_*
This is utterly staggering that there are actually still people online parroting this.
Yes, this true, and geoengineering is absolutely real. People here in the NW u will see the public.recording it real time, u can watch them join together...our once blue skies are now a white'ish blue, u can look at the sun and it doesnt hurt ur eyes. There were many many many videos of the air force speaking about it openly. The people doing this, as well as their families do undergo medical treatments to extract this from their bodies. This is the worst experiment done to mankind in the USA EVER! THESE R NANO PARTICLES IN OUR AIR, H20, N SOIL...NO WAY OF EXTRACTING IT. This has been going on since 2016 or before. Ive written how it wks and I always get scrubbed. Just like the airforce hygienist who was shown it, she 1rst disnt believe it as that was hwr job, and she didnt have to do much digging.and she waa sholed. She goes around the world exposing it. There were sooo many pics in 2016 & after showing the Airforce were buying up commercial jets, taking out the seats and placing cannisters of.this stuff they r spraying...u could see the overheads for luggage they leave intact. These pilots r not told what they r spraying horizon to horizon 24/7...but they will tell u they r the highest paid pilots in the world. And they keep their kids inside their homes, though even that doesnt protect them completely! Man, I wish I could go all into it, as it was a thought back in the 50's or 60's that if we could control the weather we could bring Russia to their knees by making it not rain, weather warfare, however, today, all wealthy countries r doing this, so what does that mean? This is what is causing 99% of so called climage change! Its man made! Its causing these man made fires that r so hot no one has ever seen in history, trees r burning from the inside out! And the hot air is being trapped, and the flooding! PEOPLE WAKE UP!
@@yassassin6425Liar.
@@yassassin6425 Lying again.
Interesting watching this... I found myself down the rabbit hole when my late grandparents always told me to never trust the papers, what's on the TV or what the government says.. always think the opposite and ALWAYS think from both sides of the argument.
Yeh like Rogan is a Satanist and is paid to debunk this on air. When in fact, chemtrails create fake cloud cover. aka Cloud seeding. Technocratic communism.
Besides it being admitted to by several countries like Germany 13-15 years ago, it's well known and documented they're using literally industrial waste mixed with other chemicals for cloud seeding to spray us (collaterally but still), the metals falling on the ground are well recorded and NOT industry caused(not directly), that's why oceans got warmer=more acidic, as the soil as the air, as our own bodies, that's why you got increase in rapid spreading cancers and respiratory issues to that corona nor the vax didn't help did they. The acidic dry soils kills trees, more dead trees, you get fast growing fires, as we've seen around the world. Killing us in the process of getting yet another weapon in their pocket is a lucky hapenstance for these demented cunts in the deep state, as depopulation is goal #1.
And this guy is on the Democratic side. Because I know chemtrails are real I've seen the planes that do it. I've seen the difference from chemtrails and what comes out of a plane they are both very different.
I wonder who's paying him to try and convince us there's no chemtrails.
@@kathypoltorak6137 He's got more money then he can spend, I'm afraid he does't want to make such claims until an "expert" tells him it's real.
Look up cloud seeding it’s a real thing that they’re revealing only now to the public in mainstream news it’s wild how they say everyone’s crazy then they come out and say yea we spray shit into the air to control the weather and precipitation of clouds…!
My cousin works as a airline pilot and he said every time he is about to take off there is a squad of humanoid lizzards working on the plane.
As a humanoid lizard who works on the airport crew, I can confirm this. The pay is okay but the benefits are shit. We are thinking about forming a union. If we don't get improvements we are going to strike. The cucks running the deep-lizard state will learn the hard way that the world doesn't takeover itself.
@@Sphere723 #HumanoidLizardUnion2020
I believe you
John Pen hahah that’s funny as hell because the Jon Brennan is ON VIDEO telling you that geoengineering is REAL. Laugh it up dude. Look up at the skies. For some reason the clouds look diff than they used to.
th-cam.com/video/WBG81dXgM0Q/w-d-xo.html
Conspiracies are attractive because intuition tells people that there’s more to the story than what the national new media presents.
all the news stations spread bullshit so no wonder people believe conspiracies that aren’t real
@J Juarez me fuckface do some research 🤡
@J Juarez bruh what u saying I just said all news media spreads bullshit
@J Juarez you know what’s funny I think we both misread each other’s comments. When U said “who says they aren’t real” thought u meant mainstream news lmao my bad dude
thats retarded that you think that
I swear I never noticed all these contrails until the last several years. Now I see them constantly, sometimes even 5-8 at a time.
Anyone else not remember seeing these in the past?
Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, recorded, documented, photographed, filmed and studied for the best part of a century and since the advent of powered high altitude flight.
You're tight...they weren't around before 2000. I never remember seeing them in the 90s!
everybody older than 20 years old and not blind or brainwashed
How far in the past? I have been seeing those for so many years. I always lived in rural areas and the chemtrails were prominent in these areas where poverty and mental illnesses accumulate. The government offered free Sanax and Paxil.
Can you explain why chemicals and metals would do the same thing?
You don't see a "tick-tack-toe" pattern with normal air traffic......
Of course you do. The sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
Or a star
@@yassassin6425 obviously this has become your new normal. Don't tell me what I see!!!!!! I live rural without commercial air traffic to produce a tick-tack-toe design.
@@brigbrown4444
*_"obviously this has become your new normal."_*
Nope. Persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years. I can demonstrate this very easily to you with some references - or you can establish this for yourself.
"_"Don't tell me what I see!!!!!!"_*
You haven't got a clue what you see because you have allowed junk online conspiracy theory to tell you what to think about something that you clearly don't understand.
*_"I live rural without commercial air traffic to produce a tick-tack-toe design."_*
Fascinating. A rural area of the contiguous United States that isn't overflown by domestic or long-haul air traffic. What's your location?
How many flights are in the air at any given time over the US per day. With each flight having a different destination from a different starting point, statistically there’s still going to be commercial air traffic over your local area
Idk, man. Where I live in Brazil I see planes leaving trails behind all the time, but the trails always disappear in a matter of minutes. *That's* a natural fenomena. It doesn't make sense to me for a simple "condensed vapor trail" to last hours on end, slowing *falling* over people's heads. There's definitely something weird to it.
Are you similarly puzzled by a cloud?
they don’t talk about how contrail disappear in less than minutes and chemtrails last hours
@@iandownham2127
By all means, let's do that. A persistent contrail you mean - a phenomena that has been observed, measured and studied for in excess of eighty years and since the early advent of powered flight.
A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. Whether it does or not, together with the duration and length, is governed by the interrelationship between air temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure.
@@yassassin6425 no just "vapor" that spreads for miles and hours.
@@cantrun5491
You seem a tad confused.
The lower atmosphere is full of "water vapour" - you can't see it, because it is an invisible gas. In conditions of high relative humidity or supersaturation, it may condense and clouds will form which is precisely why they "spread for miles and miles". Given the right conditions (air temperature, humidity and vapour pressure), the same can happen with contrails which is precisely why they can contain millions of lbs of material and the ice budget can grow, because they are drawing upon the available atmospheric water vapour.
You never mention how the trails continue to spread across the sky getting larger for hours without dissipating. I feel like water vapor doesn't behave this way. I'm open to disproving them, but this has always been my sticking point. Maybe you can shed some light on this for me. Show some type of scientific explanatory proof that water vapor does behave in this manner.
Think of it the other way - how could any chemical cloud sprayed from the rear of an aircraft spread and not disperse?
The reason a contrail can grow is because the water vapour is already present in the atmosphere. At the altitude that commercial air traffic cruises it is very cold. If the humidity is high then a contrail may form - and if the surrounding atmosphere is supersaturated in respect to ice it will persist and even grow because it is unable to sublimate back into its invisible gaseous state which is invisible water vapour. The process is explained in this paper together with additional citations that you can cross reference.
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1029/2003JD003582/asset/jgrd10661.pdf?v=1&t=jbwbs5af&s=2c8f90b8ca0dced255ee46798a35348c80a3e4e1
And it blocks out the sunshine and then it's raining a few hours later, no sun, no pineal gland activation and seasonal affective disorders persist
Check out;
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another channel is AGWN
both on utube. He gets 🎯 all the time. I know from my Dad about weather warfare. He was C.I.D.
Full Bird COL.
For National Defense Department.
CID is criminal investigation division. He is still on stand by for
III WW nuclear war. Just another way of not paying him his pension for 20 plus year's of service.
The military started experimenting with this in the 1950s.
Aloha from Shainia daughter of 🐈
Clouds lol
Clouds. Ever watch them miraculously disappear?
Before I got sober I was deep into the chemtrail theory. One day a voice in my head said “If you are going to pollute your body, do you deserve to live in a clean world?”
@@sonandsteal1190
Liar
Addicts have the highest concentration of conspiracy theorists I’ve ever seen. I always wondered and then I saw a study that the number one contributor to believing in conspiracies is a general feeling of lack of control over your life. Ain’t that some shit lol
Listen to that voice more often. Also, you got the right to pollute your own body if you WANT to, but they're using your money to kill you slowly.
@@monhi64 It makes perfect sense.
The drugs break down their programming.
Suddenly they have new eyes to see.
@@monhi64 so the facts have nothing to do with it? Ight
very simple yet in Canada there is a class action lawsuit involving chemtrails.
This interview pushes me even further into tge belief that Joe is a gatekeeper
Do you believe that contrails don’t exist? That they’re all chemtrails?
@@jamesnunn7181 contrails exists and disappear, chem trails expand and stay there very hazy. Watched it for a couple hours today. Took many pictures and videos.
@@camm102 you’ve got to be joking mate
@@camm102 nah mate. A contrail can last for hours under the right conditions
I was disappointed. The TRUTH is known for people wishing to know.
Check out AGWN on utube
He is constantly 🎯 for being a TRUTH speaker.
Aloha from Shainia daughter of 🐈
"you tested dirt, and it tested positive for being dirt..."
And aluminum
@@TheRealpennyInfo Why wouldn't it?
@@yassassin6425 why would it be at high levels
@Andrew Finefrock on new dirt?
@Andrew Finefrock you know what happens when you assume someone else's poinyof view. You make us look like an ass
Before being awake and aware of the world around us, Joe sounded sane. But now, he sounds just as woke as all the idiots walking around with a blindfold
I love people like you, sooooo easy to grift.
you may possibly feel this way because of the degradation caused to your brain from your ancestors committing incest for generations. fruit for thought :)
How the hell does he sound woke?
Ignore these other comments, they clearly don’t do much research. I’ve been feeling this way about Joe for a couple years. He sounds like Tucker Carlson a year ago. Always pretending like he has no idea, just an inkling. This is what politicians do, talk about things they know are important to you while ignoring or acting ignorant on the most important facts. Can’t see the forest for the trees.
They compare the chemtrails to our breath on a cold day, saying the water vapors from our breath is why we can see it on a cold day. So if that's true why doesn't our breath spread out like chemtrails do throughout the day?-
You'll find that the explanation may well be because the exhalation from your lungs is not equivalent or analogous to a large turbofan jet engine rated up to 115,000 lbs of thrust, continually burning a hydrocarbon fuel at 1,100°C and 4 litres per second, emitting a stream of 600°C superheated exhaust in an ambient ice saturated environment < -60°C whilst travelling at speeds up to and occasionally in excess of 500 knots.
The solar radiation management is well documented. A friend who worked for the forest service started taking soil samples when they couldn't explain how the fires were getting started and verified this as well, by the lab results.
Solar radiance…
If this was true, you could easily post a link right?
@@stemfourvisual en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_geoengineering
Bullshit is "well documented" constantly.
@@Mrbfgray aluminum, borium, strontium, silver.
Last two minutes, guest admitting geoengineering is real,... After entire conversation of debunking it.
😂
No one is debunking geoengineering - and no one is 'admitting' that it is real, since it has never been denied. Geoengineering is a vast area involving multiple strategies and proposals. Those that are falsely attributed to the chemtrail belief are entirely hypothetical however.
Chemtrails. It IS a conspiracy but it’s NOT a “theory”
My aunt husband worked in top clearance in the Navy. And he said they have been doing Geo Engineering for 20 years... he has no reason to lie.
Question - and please answer honestly, do you actually understand what geoengineering is and how broadly the term is applied? What does geoengineering in any of its forms have to do with a dumb hoax centred around the misidentification of aircraft contrails?
Geoengineering has been a thing since the 60s...
Cloud seeding with silver iodide???????
th-cam.com/video/Dys1F7R0GyA/w-d-xo.html
The patents go further back to like the 40’s
Calling it geoengineering is a stretch. The science behind it is shaky, results are inconsistent and it is limited to cloud seeding and rain release (both of which produce erratic or no results at high biological risk which is why they aren't used). But hey, the government is lizard people who mind control people without tinfoil hats into believing that the earth is a globe, Hitler is dead and that the moon is solid and not a hollow alien base.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
www.geoengineeringwatch.org/mainstream-media-coverage-of-climate-engineering-what-is-the-agenda/
Joe "Imma shout out my neighbor Bling Bling even tho he's not relevant to this conversation" Rogan
You boring person! 😂💤💤💤💤
It was relevant. Pay better attention.
Stop drinking lean brah
I'd never heard of chemtrails, when I witnessed two planes lay crosshatched lines right above my head that made a perfectly clear sunny day turn to a white cloudy overcast day , as the crosshatched lines grew thicker until they all connected...and they did it in approximately two hours .
Sounds like you've never heard of aircraft contrails.
@@yassassin6425 lol contrails turn a perfectly clear day into a completely overcast day in two hours?. So weather altering contrails? . If that what it is that I saw, then that's what it is. Just seems strange that the excess heat in the form of steam wouldn't be evaporated and disappear. Don't you think?.
@@pullitupjamie810
*_"lol contrails turn a perfectly clear day into a completely overcast day in two hours?. So weather altering contrails?"_*
Yep - It can happen quicker than that in fact.
*_"So weather altering contrails? . If that what it is that I saw, then that's what it is"_*
Nope, contrails altered by the weather.
*_"Just seems strange that the excess heat in the form of steam wouldn't be evaporated and disappear. Don't you think?."_*
Except, that isn't what contrails are. Allow me to explain.
Because jet fuel is a hydrocarbon, the chief products of combustion are CO2 and H2O. Since the oxygen adds to the mass, burning a gallon of jet fuel actually makes more than a gallon of water. In the regions that aircraft cruise (the lower stratosphere), the ambient air is not only very cold, but if the relative humidity is high and encountering a lower vapour pressure, the water in the exhaust will condense out as ice, forming a trail which is essentially a cirrus cloud. A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. In cases of high Rhi, then the trail will linger because the ice crystals are unable to sublimate back into the gaseous phase (water vapour). If the air is saturated in respect to ice, then the trail will expand, spread and increase in mass because it is almost entirely drawing upon the available atmospheric moisture - where the jet engine exhaust is merely the trigger mechanism. As I indicated - the same process as a cloud, which is precisely what contrails are.
Hope this helps.
We live near of two largest airports in the country and we see a lot of planes in the sky ,but they never ever leaving any trails behind, hanging for hours over our heads and spreading all over the sky instead of disappearing. This happens when we see plains crossing the sky in the squares,which leaves behind white long 'cloth' of something,what stays over for a very long time. It happen a couple days before. We stayed in our garden with dogs,because of beutiful sunny day. My border collie Bella LOVES rain,loves to play in the rain and barking loudly and soon she feels ANY ,even a single drop from the sky,she starts running around and sniffing. A couple hours later after we saw this plain making squares,Bella started her 'rain sniffing' thing. I myself felt very light,more like 'one particle of' smell like a kind of petrol,ammonium or something very chemical. Next day after spending half a day outside, both of us by some reason felt like dizzy,sleepy, overtired,heavy head,heavy eyes. Even dogs ,who loves garden went inside ahead of us and went to sleep straight away. This is why Im looking for information on chemtrails now. Not because I saw some videos,but because what we have experienced. If people can imagine things or to be very sensitive to info ,dogs cannot. They feel what they feel and if my dog in the middle of hot and sunny day starts sniffing raindrops, I believe that something is falling down from the sky.
Proximity to an airport is irrelevant. Air traffic is not at a sufficient altitude to form contrails.
In respect of the grid patterns that you describe. the sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
Finally, contrails often form on the leading edge of an advancing weather front and are thus an early indication of rainfall. They are the consequence not the cause of this.
@@yassassin6425 I hate when people talking nonsense. Proximity to airports means I see a lot of flying planes and I am able to recognize where are condensation trails from an unusual trails,left by planes. Normal trail of condensation is visible approximately a few meters behind the plane ( if you are looking from the ground) and dissolved asap. Chemtrails are hanging over for hours and spreading across the sky. Lines,left behind the plane are connected at the end,if it is done in the squares. Usually commercial planes doesnt make squares. Why do you think that people are absolutely daft only you alone cleaver one?
P.S: If your explanation would be true, we would be able to see 'sky in the squares' every single day,because plaines flies by the same traffic management, especially on weekends, when they are flying one after another nonstop in all directions. But it never works like that. This chemtrail thing happens from time to time,never a few days in a row or on the same week. I grew up in Lithuania and my uncle back then used to work with planes,who was spraying herbicides and plant food on the farmland so,I can remember well how it looks like :) Later on it was banned,because of the damage it does to the nature,but who was worried about that in 60- 70s?
@@67nextday
*_"I hate when people talking nonsense."_*
Said the believer in junk online conspiracy theory.
*_"Proximity to airports means I see a lot of flying planes and I am able to recognize where are condensation trails from an unusual trails,left by planes."_*
Aircraft arriving and departing from airports do not deposit contrails. Contrails tend to be formed at cruise altitudes. And your point about people talking nonsense was?
*_"Normal trail of condensation is visible approximately a few meters behind the plane ( if you are looking from the ground)"_*
Correct, due to the phase gap. This is hard to discern though as a gound based observer.
*_"and dissolved asap"_*
Contrails don't 'dissolve', they sublimate. And why should this be "asap"? Demonstrate why supported by known physical laws and atmospheric chemistry. Go ahead.
*_"Chemtrails are hanging over for hours and spreading across the sky"_*
You mean persistent spreading contrails that have been observed, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and the best part of a century.
*_"Lines,left behind the plane are connected at the end,if it is done in the squares."_*
To remind you, this is what you said - ""I hate when people talking nonsense."
*_"Usually commercial planes doesnt make squares."_*
As patiently explained f course commercial aircraft can make grid patterns since as explained, they are flying at differing altitudes, headings and to a range of destinations. You can easily verify this for yourself.
*_"Why do you think that people are absolutely daft only you alone cleaver one?"_*
Several responses to this.
1/ Firstly, I am irrelevant to this exchange, everything that I type is independently verifiable. The known science that you are demonstrably ignorant of has a voice of its own.
2/ I am pressed for an answer, then perhaps the fact that I am not the one that has allowed myself to gullibly be duped by an online conspiracy theory that has managed to turn a cloud into a conspiracy theory.
3/ I can at least compose a coherent sentence and spell the word 'clever'.
*_"P.S: If your explanation would be true, we would be able to see 'sky in the squares' every single day,because plaines flies by the same traffic management, especially on weekends, when they are flying one after another nonstop in all directions. But it never works like that"_*
By the same logic, why then do you not see clouds every day? Are you similarly perplexed by variations in cloud cover? A contrail can be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. Do you really require me to explain why? Why are you doing this to yourself?
*_"This chemtrail thing happens from time to time,never a few days in a row or on the same week."_*
So do atmospheric conditions and changes in humidity, vapour pressure and ambient air temperature genius. It's called weather.
*_"I grew up in Lithuania and my uncle back then used to work with planes,who was spraying herbicides and plant food on the farmland so,I can remember well how it looks like :)"_*
You actually think that crop dusting is analogous to the contrails that you are misidentifying? Jeez. Question for you. Why do you think that corp spraying is conducted at around 100 feet or lower as opposed to 6 - 8 miles high? Think hard now.
*_"Later on it was banned,because of the damage it does to the nature,but who was worried about that in 60- 70s?"_*
Crop dusting is not banned. Why are you changing the subject? This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the aircraft contrails that you have been conned into believing are 'chemtrails'.
@@yassassin6425 You talking nonsense, 'filibustering ' boy and not answering my simple question: why it's not happens every single day,if it is normal to aircraft? There is nothing to do with air conditions,if days are the same sunny and nice with the similar humidity and preassure,the same temperature.I do believe my own eyes, not stupid theories and presumptions someone makes. You took a lot of effort and time to pick my message into pieces and argue every word. Im too lazy to do the same,sorry,but every argument is misleading and nonsense,called bla bla,bla..Only young and passionate believers in sience does that :)Look above your head sometimes and believe your own eyes, not in that rubbish you have been told in school, by media or by purposely educated people. I believe my own eyes,boy. Dont need to be scientist to recognize clean sky from polluted one. Your speech is a twaddle,like a pouring watter from one empty bucket into another : sound exists but no point to do so :)
You want by sience? Ok!
What is contrail? A frozen water vapour, which is needed cold weater to be formed. By sience -1°C is when water freezes.
There are nearest airports: Leeds 37km away,Manchester 35km,Liverpool approx 50km away. Flightradar24 helps to check speed,altitude, route,so,we can clearly see how many planes overhead,who is landing,who is passing to Dublin,Glasgow,etc..
Altitude of landing / take off planes 8-12 thousand feets above our town (3-4 km ).
Next we are using temperature at altitude calculator. For an example, +20° C at altitude of 4km gives us -6°C. More than enough contrails to be formed.Yes, we see it as a few meters white trail behind the plane,which very fast diapers ( dissolved).This is normal way of watching any plane flying in the sky,whatever altitude it might be ( I mean higher than 4km,because planes normally flies approx 10 kms)
So,why on Earth,according this explanation,a plane ( usualy it works two of them to form squares),who flies low altitude, can leave trails behind on a hot summer day,which cannot be dissolved in a few hours? Visually they are not flying higher than 3-4kms,compare to commercial planes,who flies visibly very high ( even then their contrails dissolved as normally and no white-stay forever- tails left behind, which would be very logical in their altitude and cold air). If it is 20-25°C on the ground,they vapour must be dissolved in the counted minutes,never mind hours to stay and hang over us.Any LOGICAL explanation,please?
@@67nextday
Your comment appears to be shadow banned. I will summarise it here.
*_"You talking nonsense, 'filibustering ' boy and not answering my simple question"_*
Again, the irony, was it intentional? To clarify once more, everything that I type is independently verifiable. Nothing to to with me. Regarding your question -
*_"why it's not happens every single day,if it is normal to aircraft? There is nothing to do with air conditions,if days are the same sunny and nice with the similar humidity and preassure,the same temperature"_*
Jesus Christ, this is like pulling teeth. Firstly, surely you are aware that the atmosphere is not homogeneous or isotropic. Conditions on the ground can be very different to those at 40,000ft - which in turn can be very different to those at 35,0000ft 30,000ft, 25,000ft, 20,000ft and 15,000ft. Like I said, contrails can be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or they may not form at all. Whether they do along with their length and duration *_is determined by the interaction between ambient air temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure._*
*_"I do believe my own eyes"_*
No one doubts the trials that you are seeing, you simply don't understand what they are.
*_"not stupid theories and presumptions someone makes."_*
Said the online conspiracy believer.
*_"You took a lot of effort and time to pick my message into pieces and argue every word."_*
It was neither and it was very easy to do.
*_"Im too lazy to do the same,sorry"_*
Just as you are too lazy to learn about aviation, atmospheric science, meteorology and the physical laws that govern them. It's much easier for you people to become an armchair authority squandering an evening watching junk online conspiracy video.
*_"but every argument is misleading and nonsense,called bla bla,bla"_*
Yes, so you keep saying, without being able to address or refute a word of it.
*_"Only young and passionate believers in sience does that :)"_*
Known science is not a question of 'belief'.
*_"Look above your head sometimes and believe your own eyes, not in that rubbish you have been told in school, by media or by purposely educated people. I believe my own eyes,boy. Dont need to be scientist to recognize clean sky from polluted one."_*
Are you also perplexed by the appearance of a cloud or variation in cloud cover?
*_"Your speech is a twaddle,like a pouring watter from one empty bucket into another : sound exists but no point to do so :)"_*
Like I said, no use saying it, demonstrate why.
*_"You want by sience? Ok!"_*
Given that you have shown throughout that you can't even spell the word, this should at the very least be entertaining. Go ahead then.
*_"What is contrail? A frozen water vapour, which is needed cold weater to be formed. By sience -1°C is when water freezes."_*
The ambient air temperature will be much lower that this, but temperature alone does not form a contrail. It is also a function of relative humidity and vapour pressure. Although water vapour is produced by jet engines for this to condense into a cloud of ice crystals, the surrounding air must be conducive to it. I suggest that you take a look at the Appleman equations/chart.
*_"There are nearest airports: Leeds 37km away, Manchester 35km, Liverpool approx 50km away. Flightradar24 helps to check speed,altitude, route,so,we can clearly see how many planes overhead,who is landing,who is passing to Dublin,Glasgow,etc. Altitude of landing / take off planes 8-12 thousand feets above our town (3-4 km )."_*
Correct. And aircraft in proximity to those airports that are either approaching or departing will nor produce a trail.
*_WNext we are using temperature at altitude calculator. For an example, +20° C at altitude of 4km gives us -6°C. More than enough contrails to be formed."_*
Incorrect.
*_"Yes, we see it as a few meters white trail behind the plane,which very fast diapers ( dissolved).This is normal way of watching any plane flying in the sky,whatever altitude it might be ( I mean higher than 4km,because planes normally flies approx 10 kms)"_*
As explained, contrails do not "dissolve", they sublimate.
*_"So,why on Earth,according this explanation,a plane ( usualy it works two of them to form squares),who flies low altitude, can leave trails behind on a hot summer day,which cannot be dissolved in a few hours?"_*
Because, they are not as you claim flying low. You are simply seeing cruise altitude traffic intersecting.
*_"Visually they are not flying higher than 3-4kms,compare to commercial planes,who flies visibly very high ( even then their contrails dissolved as normally and no white-stay forever- tails left behind, which would be very logical in their altitude and cold air). If it is 20-25°C on the ground,they vapour must be dissolved in the counted minutes,never mind hours to stay and hang over us.Any LOGICAL explanation,please?"_*
Yes. Your claims of altitude are either erroneous or you are deceiving yourself. I'll ask you again, are you similarly perplexed by the duration of a cloud?
Because jet fuel is a hydrocarbon, the chief products of combustion are CO2 and H2O. Since the oxygen adds to the mass, burning a gallon of jet fuel actually makes more than a gallon of water. In the regions that aircraft cruise (the lower stratosphere), the ambient air is not only very cold, but if the relative humidity is high and encountering a lower vapour pressure, the water in the exhaust will condense out as ice, forming a trail. It is important to note that simply because the temperature is below freezing, this does not mean that a contrail will be formed particularly if the air is very dry. Otherwise, airports would be blinded by contrails at ground level during winter every time there were sub zero temperatures.
As explained, A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. In cases of high Rhi, then the trail will linger because the ice crystals are unable to sublimate back into the gaseous phase (water vapour). If the air is saturated in respect to ice, then the trail will expand, spread and increase in mass because it is almost entirely drawing upon the available atmospheric moisture. The water vapour in the exhaust gasses simply acted as the trigger event. As I indicated - this is the same process as a cloud, which is precisely what contrails are and all that your supposed 'chemtrails' are. If it were solely a function of temperature as you claim, then an aircraft would produce a contrail at full thrust for take off or near the ground every time it dropped below zero.
Why are you struggling to comprehend this?
As an Air Force fighter pilot we kept track on the "conning altitude." Above that altitude our enemy could see us from a hundred miles away due to our contrails so we usually stayed below it. I don't believe jet contrails contain anything nefarious but I admit the government could put additives in jet fuel without pilots and ground crew knowing.
First thing I thought of. Not that I believe in chemtrqils but I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to have something added to the fuel with a mass amount of people knowing
@@PrfctPlyr It WOULD be hard to hide it from the thousands of air quality monitoring sites, all over the world. There is no evidence of ANY "something" added to the fuel for ANY purpose other than engine performance.
@@realitypreferred7084 ok…. I don’t believe there is…..
How effective would these additives be? In what concentrations could you add them to the fuel without messing it up? And it couldn't be anything alive, like a bateria or virus, since the jet fuel burns.
We are also talking about spreading a diluted mix of fuel and "additives" over an immense volume of air, since these planes fly high.
Let us now consider real situations where planes are used to spread chemicals: pesticide application. Crop dusters (the planes that do this) fly 8 to 12 feet from what they are spraying.
Chemtrails are very unlikely.
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Chem trails is definitely a subject I would love to find out about but seriously who is this guy Joe's speaking to. I've never been bored so listening to someone speak
He’s literally the guy who worked on the Tony Hawk video game that’s now retired. Now he became a FB fact checker🤣
@@wayneandrews4296 hahaha!! U would think that he'd b a little bit more enthusiastic when he speaks if he's earned all that cash. Honestly if I'm ever struggling to sleep I knw what JRE to put on 🤣🤣
I still see them all the time its no crops where i see them so wounder if its covid lol smh
@@CubisticPath845 very recently I witnessed 2 commercial sized planes flying side by side and leaving a train track sort of chem trail cloud across the sky. It was so weird. I mean why would 2 planes fly like that in the first place?? There is definitely something being sprayed over people if not then why don't we see trails following every plane all of the time?
What are They Spraying???
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For anyone who doesn't believe in Chemtrails go out to the country side, stay there for one week. Look up at the sky, not even a few days go by without having several planes forming their fumes, (it usually happens one or two days a week) only. He is trying to say that planes do it all the time, but not all the time- it only happens about twice a week, sometimes once a week. but if you stick around you will see that it always- always turns into major cloud systems, all from the fumes of the planes- I live on a farm and I will sit outside and watch it form. That is not nature, that's all I have to say. If it's not nature what is it??! I can usually predict that when I see the fumes forming into clouds that really nasty weather will follow within a day or two, this is without fail. Weather will either be extremely cold or rainy and windy. That's the question. Something is going on.
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When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!"Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not.
[Quran 2 :11-12
Firstly, he is not saying anything of the sort. A contrail may be short lived, it may be persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. Whether it does and its length and duration are a consequence of the prevailing atmospheric conditions and the interrelationship between air temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure. Aircraft contrails are not 'fumes' - although they are a product of jet engine exhaust, they are formed by the water vapour present in this condensing out. If the ambient air is conducive they will form a cloud - a stream of ice crystals.
Secondly, contrails are often the precursor of changing atmospheric conditions, unstable air and an approaching weather front. Therefore, they are the *_consequence_* not the *_cause_* of the changes in the weather that you associate with them.
We can see weather patterns ahead of time by radar. How does a “chemtrail” above a place in, let’s say Illinois, have any impact when we can see the weather pattern coming from the west days in advance? I’m open minded after all the COVID BS but I can’t understand how this is proof of anything.
I love reading this man’s comments. Such a joy to see proper grammar, extensive vocabulary, and a moral compass, on the internet. You are an awesome educator!
If you think they can't control the weather, at least to a certain extent, you haven't been paying attention.
Controlling the weather is technically impossible. Manipulation, or rather, modification is attempted, but at a local/micro scale.
I didn't realize how many JRE watchers were insane lmfao
Ah then you were new to jre at that time. Because everyone knew that.
Joe *Freemason* Rogan
@YouthfulSage oh stfu. Hes just a dude man and thats it. Reality is not a movie.
Mario S audience.
@Justin McCoy wtf are you on about?
I used to think the same and this was impossible, then last week I learnt the chinese add silver iodine to the sky to make it rain as reported by the Guardian. World’s getting weird and weirder.
I did a project on cloud seeding in 3rd grade when we learned about the water cycle. Haven’t thought about it until now but it’s been happening for nearly 70 years.
Nothing wierd about silver idione cloud seeding, this is something we've known about for years. It just doesn't work well enough to be effective all the time. in other words it's more 'wishful thinking' than 'effective chemistry.'
Nothing weird about it. It’s called science
@@Voluptuary what science qualifications do you have by the way ? .. just for clarity I have BSc Natural sciences ( chemistry / biochem ) and then MSc Analytical Chemistry .. 10 years working in pharma
yes and former CIA director jhon brennan already admitted they have a stratospheric aerosal injection program to manipulate weather and this video is from 2014 or 2016 can't remember, but it's definitly not a conspiracy.
I love this analogy that the pilots are involved. Why would they be involved into it? That’s like saying your phone is emitting radiation and you are involved into it. Most of the people have no idea how a phone works and spend way more time with the phone than a pilot flying .
Hey so can someone give an explanation about why I can watch two planes in the same area of sky with both having trails but while one disappeared(like it’s supposed to do) yet the other stream was miles long and never would disappear. This is the one thing that sold the conspiracy for me.
Well firstly why do you think that a trail is necessarily supposed to disappear? A contrail may be short lived, persistent of persistent spreading - or it may not form at all. In the regions that commercial aircraft cruise - the tropopause and lower stratosphere - the ambient air is frequently saturated in respect to ice. In cases of high RHi then a contrail will persist because the ice crystals are unable to sublimate back into the invisible gaseous phase (water vapour). However in cases of ice supersaturation, the water present in aircraft exhaust merely initiates the contrail. The growth comes from the available atmospheric moisture budget, which is precisely why a contrail can weigh millions of lbs. It is also the reason that it can expand, grow in mass, thicken and become indistinguishable from regular cirrus. What chemical can do that?
The following paper tracked the development of contrail cirrus using a range of high‐resolution polar orbiting and lower‐resolution geostationary satellite instruments which was found to persist for a period of around 18 h, which at its peak covered over 50,000 km2.
agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2009JD012650
To address your initial question, how are you establishing precise altitude of these aircraft? - which is impossible as a ground based observer. Even in view of Reduced Separation Minima regulations, these aircraft will be 1,000 feet apart vertically and five miles laterally and horizontally. That is not 'in the same area of sky'. Appreciate that the atmosphere is not homogeneous or isotropic. The interplay of factors that govern contrail formation - temperature, humidity and pressure - can change within a matter of mere feet. Think about the inside and the outside of a cloud. Do variations in cloud cover also perplex you?
You need to know the part of the atmosphere where the contrail happens.
The atmosphere is something extremely complex and something that can change at any time.
And, your eyes are not that far apart to measure distance beyond a few meters up in the air, so no, you cannot claim that 2 planes passed in "the same area", remember, never trust your senses 100%.
Yassassin thank you very much I figured someone could explain it. Didn’t know there was THIS MUCH to it
Gordon Freeman well it was two fedex planes. It was in Memphis and I know what all the planes look like and what airline it is. They were pretty close in the air to each other and were the exact same size. And the distance detween the two planes had to of been like 30-50 miles apart. But the guy above explained it to me using actual terminology and with a link as well where as you just said like one sentence which sounds like it came out of the first chapter of ya fifth grade science book
@@bravemise I'm just a simple man :D.
problem with conspiracy theories is that when they are no longer deemed to be a conspiracy everyones like , "Yeah , I knew it all along"
Ehh I disagree, seems like most of the time they just dig in deeper. So many conspiracy theorists are completely blind to strong evidence they’re wrong. Honestly I believe it’s because they research poorly, they’re always trying to prove themselves right so they’ll look for anything that confirms their feelings. Yet they almost always disregard trying to prove themselves wrong and it just forms a terrible feedback loop and they get deeper and deeper
That's a problem for you? People being proven right and finding out governments full of professional liars lied to you? Then we got no problems.
Problem with down syndrome as your picture is that you cannot even go and check online Israel Cloud Insemination
Inseminazione delle nuvole
Simply using nanometals to attract clouds or push them away.
Go check you downey 😂
@@monhi64dude trust me, if you think its just illuminati making some clouds, you better fkin be scared of what is coming. You will see hell on earth
@@monhi64 Sounds also like the average Joe news believer. Most people on both sides don’t do there research/trust everything
Fascinates me why podcasts like this don't interview the ones getting slated
10:15 best part starts right here
You tested DIRT, and it tested positive for being DIRT
Real question. What am i seeing when i watch a trail slowly grow and literally turn the sky grey above me? What is that?
Dissipation of the frozen vapor. www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sun/contrail.html
Check the videos on my channel, they are chemtrails that I show
We exhale vapor. It dissipates in seconds. Jets produce vapor. It cools down and dissipates in no more than 30 seconds on cold, humid days with little wind. When see trails from jets on warm to hot days, stay in the air for hours, turning beautiful blue skies with no clouds into ugly white skies that limits visibility from 30 miles plus to about 5 miles. I lived in Simi Valley and I documented on video blue SoCal morning with certain jets leaving Chemtrails, as an hour later the sun was blocked out and it turned to an ugly day. Joe and Will in this clip admit these clouds cool the earth (by refracting sunlight out of our atmosphere to cool the earth ie. Stop global warming agenda) NASA’s JPL in Pasadena did a lecture called Van Karman Lecture: GeoEngineering and Its Effects on Global Climate Change. 2/14/2014. GeoEngineering are real programs taken on by private and government bodies.
@@jamesgrosso8920 thats not at all what they said. He said they act like a blanket keeping the heat in and that we take more heat in durning the day than we release at night, thus the temperature rising. Did you even watch the 2nd half?
I don’t live near major airline flight corridors-if fact I live near a no flight zone near Fort Hood.
Every once in a while the entire sky is covered by aircraft crossing the shy in a checkerboard pattern, which grow to cover the sky.
I grew up in Lancaster Ca. Just outside Edwards Air Force Base, have seen plenty of con trails...what I’m seeing now ain’t no contrails.
Sorry Joe, you be wrong
It's because people have been lied to consistently. Some things are cut and dry while others just doesn't add up.
Indeed but only a fool would respond by believing everything such as flat earth and chemtrails.
@ha mad trees are losing their bark in hawaii so believe in flat earth and chemtrails conspiricies? Good luck man. Peace ✌️🌎
@ha mad hahaha ok. do you have tin foil up outside your house? lol
@ha mad I cant imagine it does work on the head. thats why I suggested outside your house.
@ha mad yea sure! And why do tin foil under pants help you get through?
Just look at the sky, you dont need the internet. I have literally watched the sun blocked by a silver haze.
Yes, cirrus cloud, alto stratus and persistent spreading aircraft contrails. Nothing new.
Knew a guy, he was big on conspiracy theories. I said to him one time dont go down that rabbit hole and response was " you know the rabbit hole and alice in wonderland are all part of Disney's paedophile agenda right". We don't talk anymore
@@-_a-a_- i said i knew him. Didn't say he was a friend. When he started babbling on about the templar knights and how he knew the truth i walked away
@@-_a-a_- i know who Jimmy saville is and what he did. That wasnt my point. When i asked the guy i mentioned if him knowing the truth had made his life any better he said no. In fact its cost him most of his friends and every job he had since he started with it. Mainly because he wouldn't shut up about his truth.
You should have someone on the show to talk about Chem-trails and show evidence. If its such a hoax or far-fetched idea then it would be very easy to counter their examples by having a climate scientist on to retort the evidence. Personally, I'd like to see two guys go back and fourth on this for an episode.
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alex jones
In Europe they’re called #Team Chemtrail - Soray and Pray is the mantra on their uniform badges. You can’t make this stuff up 🤔
@@montenunn3763 Yea Alex would debunk anything that has evidence behind it. That's exactly why he's banned for life. Can't even have a debate he's so "wrong" LOL does that make sense ?
@@montenunn3763 what about Alex Jones you mean he's right about 80% of the time
Nano particles can be suspended very easily in our atmosphere. Aluminum or any other metal for that matter isn't any heavier than anything else at nano particle levels.
People new to the chemtrails conspiracy theory might want to check out HG Tudor’s series of videos, “Why do narcissists believe in conspiracy theories?”, released yesterday. It provides an excellent analysis of the psychology of the chemtrail believers.
Hell yeah, Rogan supports a professional debunker. So many interesting people around. Just great, made my day. Luckily done in short 18 minutes. Feel safe now....
Thank you for covering up for criminals. I'm sure they appreciate the help.
They're not criminals, they are globalists who want a one-world government and create their own government cryptocurrency
I think theyre just stupid
Wish I could see the reply’s on this. Looks like the took them down.
Great comment!!! Joe Rogan. How weak is this? "Covering up for the criminals" Spot on.
Excellent 👍 🙏 😎
“You tested dirt… and it tested positive for being dirt”
I wonder what they think about the CIA admitting that chemtrails are real but "it's to stop global warming". 🤔
Nothing, I'd guess because they haven't. You appear to be another one that referring to an appropriated speech by John Brennan in which he discusses transnational threats to global security that has been deceptively titled by chemtrail believers.
There are Chemtrails, it is also known as Geo Engineering, spraying Aluminum and Barium in the sky. Contrails you dont see for long because they dissapate in seconds, Chemtrails spread out over hours. Also in conjunction with HAARP, this does manipulate weather. Geo Engineering can also be called Cloudseeding which does cause rain
"There are Chemtrails"
Only in minds of gullible online conspiracy believers.
"it is also known as Geo Engineering"
Incorrect. The perpetrators of this fraud have intentionally conflated the two. Geoengineering is a very broad term and it encompasses a range of strategies from carbon sequestering to marine cloud brightening. Most funding is directed into ocean fertilisation. If you are referring to research into Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, why do you suppose that it would resemble a large white trail in wake of a commercial airliner cruising in the upper troposphere?
"Contrails you dont see for long because they dissapate in seconds"
Explain why citing meteorological science.
"Also in conjunction with HAARP, this does manipulate weather."
Explain how supported by detailed atmospheric science - when you fail to do so, I'll explain to you the actual physics behind the High Frequency Activity Auroral Research Programme.
"Geo Engineering can also be called Cloudseeding which does cause rain"
Incorrect. Cloudseeding is localised weather modification and has nothing to do with climate intervention.
Why do they do it when it's already raining?
@@jenynz5334 To amplify the damage.
Aluminium and Barium don't stay in the sky they fall to the ground
So they are spraying Deodarant?
Joe(the cia talked to me ) rogan
No shit
Joe "shhhhh!" Rogan
he is a fucking sellout
And why does that matter I guess you would have fought the government and told them to suck a dick lol your just a fat guy with a phone your over fed ass couldn't handle the truth
James Fawbush facts
Thank you so much for making your podcasts I love them and your variety of guests. Also thanks to Mick Tony Hawk was one the games I played the most as a teenager! Sorry to debunk your debunktion in America maybe they've never sprayed chemicals on the people from planes but in the UK the government openly admitted to the MOD having done these kinds of tests on people after the relevant amount of years had passed for them to do so. It's been printed in many of our main stream newspapers with links to documents.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with misidentified aircraft contrails that conspiracy believers term chemtrails though.
This tests you refer to were nothing to do with chemtrais and the publications you refer to show this..
Tony hawk was that mf game I swear think about either that airport map and/or the haunted neighborhood map at least once a month
I find it amazingly funny that even just across the way, somehow the conspiracy has made its way to england and warped to fit in with your dislike of your government. can you really not take an intellectual step backwards are realise that your view on the conspiracy, which somehow involves your government openly admitting it (wtf like would be global news) is completely different to the dozens of other conspiracies in other countries..but somehow you believe englands version? how can you say something like maybe they didnt spray them from planes in america..the place where the conspiracy came from, but your version makes sense to you does it? just like only whatever religion one person believes is correct..not the thousands of others that exist no? the exact same thing with covid..everyones fucking government was the culprit? the irish government to the twats over here, the english government to you maybe? youre all somehow correct with completely conflicting and wildly varied stories and ''evidence'' all which contradict the thousands of other people doing the exact same ting? how can you people not realise the problem with that logic, what is actually going on in the average persons head to allow them to do that. Im genuinely concerned about 99 percent of you all doing this, its fucking batshit!!
Fast-forward to 2023. Now we need new conspiracy theories because our old ones all came true.
Name just one.
@@yassassin6425 sheep that believe everything they're told will mock reality as they seem prefer to bury their head in the sand. It's actually happening all around us haha
@@kari8044
*_"sheep that believe everything they're told"_*
Bleated the online conspiracy believer without the slightest hint of irony.
*_"will mock reality as they seem prefer to bury their head in the sand."_*
You people and reality were separated at birth.
*_"It's actually happening all around us haha"_*
What is precisely? - only you have yet to say.
I never had a reason to worry about the shape of earth, but I started to worry about the chemtrails after seeing them above my house, with my own eyes. I'm not interested in proving their existence, because the phenomenon is there and it's impssible to deny, so I'm just looking for explenation and reasons for its existence.
The soils get depleted and we become perpetually sick, never reaching out fullest potential. Constantly going to hospitals and doctors for help. Respiratory diseases. Our breath is life and connects us to God xx
@@skyejacques Koo koo!!!
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its a crazy thing happening brother.
I have never seen a chemtrail, but I have seen contrails.
This guest is a professional debunker. He does not believe what he is telling you, but believes you should believe what he is telling you. Scammers do this with ease.
Yea now he works for fact checkers
@@pedrorecarey5375 of course he does. This guy has built his entire career on disinformation.
I'm from England. Who is this guy?
They use silver iodide to help form clouds, called cloud seeding. They've been using it for decades.
Basically they release a fog of the silver iodide into the air, and it allows water to easily collect around the small particulates of silver iodide, and create droplets of water.
Silver iodide cloud seeding look Into it.
@@jondoe7894 do you think that they are trying to develop water ports for the future?
What type of ramifications will that cause do you think?
If chem trails were so natural why didn't we see them 30 years ago?
We did - and they have been observed far longer than that. The persistent spreading contrails that you are witnessing have been been documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years.
As a pilot, and a lifelong watcher of the sky, it is nice to have chemtrail debunkers, as it gives a few folks something to do. However, a contrail is water vapor. It cannot maintain for any real time in the high atmosphere. However, a chemtrail, or whatever you choose to call it, not only is this very different output immediately identifiable as NOT a normal contrail. A chemtrail, or whatever you choose to call it, not only remains in the air, diffuses and spreads, and in cases where these things are being spread in multiples, can fuzzy over the entire sky. I have seen chemtrails, or whatever you choose to call it, at altitudes where it is impossible to have a true contrail. I have seen chemtrails, or whatever you choose to call them, shut off instantly. A normal contrail cannot do that. A contrail can only occur where it is cold enough that it freezes, after which the particles fall out of the air. You don't have to research this, you just have to watch the sky. There are two different entities up there, legitimate contrails, and ? You need to do your homework Mr. Rogan. Your guest is talking smack.
Hilarious. Isn't the internet a wonderful thing? You can be anything you want to.
A contrail is not water vapour, which is an invisible gas - and you are clearly not a pilot.
The rest of your post is the usual parroted nonsense and personal incredulity.
@@yassassin6425 Interesting. The 1500+ hours I have as an Idaho back country pilot must have all be a dream.
@@hikerlarrypackgoaterrobins8575
The 1500 + hours you have consuming online junk conspiracy would be a more accurate statement.
No credible 'pilot' would mistake water vapour for condensation, let alone subscribe to this chemtrails nonsense. You initial post betrays a shocking ignorance of basic atmospheric science and aviation.
@@yassassin6425 Last time I checked condensation WAS water vapour...
Then I suggest that you "check" again. Water vapour is an invisible gas. Condensation is the phase change of the state of matter from a gas into the liquid phase - the reverse of vaporisation. This occurs in one of two ways - either the air is cooled to its dew point or it becomes saturated that it cannot hold any more water in its gaseous state. Very, very elementary science.
Too bad Eddie Brovo isn't on this episode 🤷♂️
Haha I've never seen a more crazy person. It's a bag of fun when he's on the show. The episode where he discusses his flat Earth theories and his explanation of them is just a perfect picture of why conspiracy theorists exist. He ignores facts and has his own baseline of "facts", and everything on the internet, except of course his own sources, is fake and "what they want you to think".
He should be in every episode
ya gots to like Eddie bravo . He is so intense in his speech .
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I miss that crazy guy
He got called a government shill and didn't bat an eye... Let that sink in!
That it's an embarrassing obligatory cliche used by dumb conspiracy believers? I'm sure that he's equally as accustomed to 'sheep' and very dim uninformed people telling him to 'wake up'.
I know its been years ago since this video BUT it s very clear, the sky above here is being sprayed MAX this evening.... a concert with Rammstein is going on this evening just 800 m away from my balcony and the sky is loaded with trails/plains all over the concert. I have no doubt there is a connection between this band and devils cologne ..... just needed to share with somebody not accusing me of being insane
Putting chemtrails and flat earth in the same category is like putting UFOs and bigfoot in the same category
Makes sense - all are as ridiculous as each other.
Yeah well crass sucks
@@nuclearcloud9239 😆 Did you Google that too?
No speaking from experience. I've listened to crass probably longer than you've been alive. I know they suck I dont have to google that.
@@nuclearcloud9239
I was joking.
If they suck, then why have you been listening to them longer than I've been alive? Surely you would have stopped? - I mean it's not as if it's not avoidable. (incidentally, that's not possible since I'm 54).
Anarcho-punk certainly isn't everyone's bag I'll grant you that, but lyrically it's very clever. 'Christ - The Album' and 'Feeding of the 5,000' are two of may favourite punk albums of all time.
If you dislike Crass, then avoid 'Conflict' and 'Flux of Pink Indians' like the coronavirus mate.
Hey Joe! Your guest should at least speak with a physicist before he makes a fool of himself. The trails left by jet aircraft at high altitude are referred to as contrails. This refers to condensing. When an aircraft travels at high speed it collides with the air in front of it. The air can't be pushed out of the way fast enough and it gets compressed. This compression causes moisture within the air to condense and become visible, like a cloud. Leaving a trail of condensed, cloud like, visible moisture behind the aircraft. After the plane has passed, within a few seconds, the air expands again and the moisture is no longer visible; the contrail disappears. This is not how a chemtrail behaves. A chemtrail persists, remains visible, expands, and settles toward the ground.
You really shouldn't have guests like this on your show. It casts a shadow of doubt onto all of your other guests as well.
Contrails are formed by jet engine exhaust. Take a look at the Wikipedia pic at the top of this page--you'll see four contrails, one for each engine. When you are at altitude you can see one contrail per engine. As the hot, relatively moist engine exhaust is cooled the moisture condenses into a long, thin "cloud."
@Bigfacts1 Joe doesn’t read these comments. He’s been very vocal about that fact for years. He refuses to read them; always has. You’re wasting your time trying to tell the most successful podcaster in history how to do his job. That said, I’m now the second pilot in your comments that’s going to tell you that your “facts” are off. First guy was military, I’m a corporate jet jockey. You’re the one that needs to learn what you’re talking about before you make comments because you’ve now lost all credibility. You got it partly correct, but not all. Trying reading sometime.
“All facts my guy I was hoping someone said tht already” 👌
Thank you for this. There is Big difference in the two, yes.
6 years later and it certainly is not a conspiracy in the least bit. People. Listen up. Literally. Wake up. Listen to what people say.
I’m so embarrassed for you Joe. Have an open mind maybe ??
I once told a guy that the condensation from a car on a cold day is water. He says “naw that’s just the smoke coming out of the engine” I explained that water is a byproduct of hydrocarbon reactions. He says “nah there’s no water in the engine” So I begin to try to explain chemistry and the law of conservation of matter and he responds “that’s not true, you can burn stuff and it’s gone, where does it go?”
That’s when I decided that America is fundamentally doomed because they’ve imposed on us the useless principal that all people are equally privileged to share the same air by virtue of their existence.
We have to go back.
**takes a sip of Mountain Dew from an aluminum can**
“BRO THEY POISONING US WITH DEADLY ALUMINUM”
Those cans are lined with plastic to stop metal from leeching into the drink
No they’re not! Lmao 😂
@@jeromebullard6123 yes they are lol look it up on TH-cam. There's a scientist that melts it and shows it on here
They're not lined with plastic, but they are coated. This is a fact... also aluminum IS poisonous over time as it builds up.
Bro mountain dew is poison af lol
I noticed that the trails stopped happening all at once the week after the international travel lockdown was announced in early spring 2020. The abscence has continued for 5 months so far.
No it hasn't. I've seen contrails throughout, There was never a complete cessation of commercial air traffic whilst air freight was largely unaffected.
So what exactly is the implication
Cause no one was outside
I also saw that and noticed no spray anywhere
I wanna know why there's multiple jets/planes flying criss cross patterns in rural areas ....daily ???
Because aircraft fly to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. Why is it even necessary to explain this?
@@yassassin6425 over rural areas in criss cross patterns...nah doesn't add up to me
@@danielkunz2393
??? You think domestic and international air traffic only flies over built up areas? Simply because you don't understand something or it doesn't add up to you had no bearing upon reality. You incredulity is irrelevant.
I suggest you look up air traffic route maps or use tracking software.
The sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
When people say conspiracy theories, it means Truth
No. It means paranoid ignorance
I am not a conspiracy theorist, however, for 2 straight years I have not noticed a single comtrail, condensation etc. When my kids were young, we used to count them throughout the day and try to determine the busiest time of day for air travel over our house. Back then I thought of these trails as condensation/exhaust which is what I told my kids. So I do question why we no longer see them ever in the sky above us. Just seems strange to see them daily every year for 2 decades and last 2 years to not see a single one.
Facts
If you are not seeing "chemtrails" in the sky, you are blind.
I see them all the time! In fact I saw some last Wednesday when I was out working. Its simple science is to why you can see them sometimes but not always.
@@psalm2764 those "chemtrails" are technically just clouds! No chemicals though.
As a person who lives near an airport i literally see them on a daily basis, thats not even an exaggeration
Invite a specialist to discuss fracking.
...At least they'd be debating something that's real
Harvard universities Prof David Keith, has been recorded dozens of times reporting his progress with Geoengineering. check out Harvard's web site. Do an internet search on Prof David Keith, Geoengineer. Remember: In these days of information freedom and access, IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE.
Whilst we are at it, here's a few gems from David Keith, via Dane Wigington, Anti-geoengineering Warrior (that's what i call him)
th-cam.com/video/SZwOXbpuS8U/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/C2XNAvAo44o/w-d-xo.html&lc=z22hgtaq2nbit0f1m2hd0sbe5b03ty2h4s53ind1zj00u00c2.1516933258130760
and I saved the best for last. In this next clip, David Keith freely admits (at 2:40 minutes) that as a direct result of his geoengineering weather modification program they WILL "... end up KILLING MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR..." th-cam.com/video/SipxiZabLxA/w-d-xo.html&feature=em-uploademail
And for those INTELLECTUALS who like to troll and support this type of channel, here's some REAL READING for you. David Keith's proposal to move geoengineering atmospheric spraying of nanoparticles of metals (aka Chemtrails) UP INTO THE STRATOSPHERE where he will have us SPRAYED WITH SULFURIC ACID instead!
A short snibbit of his Report for your edification and information under the heading:
"Knowledge gap 2: potential human health impacts:
Epidemiological studies suggest a relationship between exposure to mists containing sulfuric acid and an increased incidence of laryngeal cancer, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer has concluded that “occupational exposure to strong inorganic mists containing sulfuric acid is carcinogenic for humans”
"Harvard universities Prof David Keith, has been recorded dozens of times reporting his progress with Geoengineering. check out Harvard's web site. Do an internet search on Prof David Keith, Geoengineer."
I don't need to - I'm fully aware of his research proposals which have been in the public domain for years together with the ethical ramifications surrounding his recommendations.
"Remember: In these days of information freedom and access, IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE."
Remember, in these days of information, freedom and access, objectivity is a must.
"Whilst we are at it, here's a few gems from David Keith, via Dane Wigington, Anti-geoengineering Warrior (that's what i call him)"
What's your point?
"and I saved the best for last. In this next clip, David Keith freely admits (at 2:40 minutes) that as a direct result of his geoengineering weather modification program they WILL "... end up KILLING MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR..."
The best bit for last???? A Dane Wigington video? Are you serious? He says nothing of the sort. This is a brief clip taken wholly out of context which is precisely the MO of conspiracy theorists. Doesn't the tacky music and sensationalist narration tell you anything or arouse your suspicions?
Keith has never denied that SAI properly evaluated before it is employed. The entire quote is stressing that if such a strategy was ever pursued without due diligence, you "might" end up killing tens of thousands of people as a direct result of that decision so the research if you care to read it is also committed to assessing the dangers of SRM prior to deployment. Assessing efficacy and risks are detailed here..
geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/
As a former meteorologist (my current field is the science of remote sensing) I can tell you that there is huge opposition to the notion of SAI. In terms of geoengineering, more funding and research is diverted into ocean fertilisation. The lack of political and public will, the logistical barriers and the ethical, soci-ecomnomic and geo-political implications combined means that SAI is very unlikely to become a reality and progress beyond the small scale trials scheduled for the next few years.
Elsewhere, independent studies are assessing the ethics of such proposals...
scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=philosophy_pubs
"who like to troll and support this type of channel"
I think you'll find as the one posting your ill informed subjective content on this channel by definition, the troll is you - and for an example of such behaviour at its worst perhaps read the preceding post to mine which presumably you condone?
"David Keith's proposal to move geoengineering atmospheric spraying of nanoparticles of metals (aka Chemtrails) UP INTO THE STRATOSPHERE where he will have us SPRAYED WITH SULFURIC ACID instead!"
Firstly chemtrails are an online hoax originally perpetrated in the late 1990s by "shock jocks" such as Art Bell on Cost to Coat AM a commercial station that manufactures conspiracy theory to order to inflate ratings and thus sell more advertising airtime. Chemtrails are the erroneous belief that contrails in the wake of civil aircraft are evidence of chemical spraying. Meanwhile on the coattails of cheap conspiracy theory, charlatans such as Wigington are committed to conflating this with geoengineering hoodwinking the gullible, suggestible and scientifically ignorant - and it is precisely that which Rogan and West are debunking in this video.
Moving up into the stratosphere???? It's called Stratospheric Aerosol Injection - it has always been designated for altitudes between 65-70,000ft. Now allow me to educate you...
The purpose of SAI has always been clearly defined. The aim is to simulate the cooling effects of a major volcanic eruption after which large quantities of sulphur dioxide and hydrochloric acid are ejected into the mid stratosphere. Once formed, these aerosols stay in the stratosphere for about two years. They reflect sunlight, reducing the amount of energy reaching the lower atmosphere and the Earth's surface, cooling them. The relative coolness of 1993 is thought to have been a response to the stratospheric aerosol layer that was produced by the Mt. Pinatubo eruption. The relative influence of volcanoes on the Junge layer varies considerably according to the number and size of eruptions in any given time period, and also of quantities of sulphur compounds released. The stratospheric aerosol layer is sustained by natural emissions of carbonyl sulphide (OCS) through biogenic processes. Carbonyl sulphide is relatively stable can mix into the stratosphere where it is photochemically broken down resulting in the formation of microscopic droplets of sulphuric acid.
Keith has identified a range of possible materials to simulate/catalyse this process. Small scale trials commence this summer involving one KG of material. The objective is beyond that o disperse water, followed by small quantities of calcium carbonate and possibly hydrogen sulphide. Such stratospheric particles exist as thin veils of dust or sulphuric acid droplets at altitudes of 12 to 18 miles.
"A short snibbit of his Report for your edification and information under the heading:
"Knowledge gap 2: potential human health impacts:
Epidemiological studies suggest a relationship between exposure to mists containing sulfuric acid and an increased incidence of laryngeal cancer, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer has concluded that “occupational exposure to strong inorganic mists containing sulfuric acid is carcinogenic for humans”
- Occupational exposure...what's your point? Your extract is from one of the papers that I referred to in respect of the full evaluation of SAI should it ever be implemented.
And here is the paper in its entirety and full context.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4717532/
I quote directly from the abstract...
"There is also little infrastructure in place to evaluate potential public health impacts in the event that stratospheric aerosols are deployed for solar radiation management. We offer several recommendations intended to help characterize the potential occupation and public health impacts of SRM, and suggest that a comprehensive risk assessment effort is needed before this approach to geoengineering receives further consideration."
+Josephine Hogg: Returning to your point about trolls on this page Josephine...
''snibbit'' IS .'. NOT A WORD Twat ... 'Snipit' IS Though !"
If you read again Lou, you will see that 'snibbit' was quoted directly from the preceding post from Josephine Hogg - hence the quotation marks. Her words not mine. How unfortunate for you.
Incidentally, would you like to discuss Rosalind Peterson in more detail?
They are completely missing the fact that the aluminum samples being found in these water and soil samples is free form aluminum which cannot be found in nature and can only be man made.
Jeez, this again? Seriously, how many times. Do you actually understand what ICP-MS actually is? - and why this is significant for the few samples of pond sludge that conspiracy theorists have submitted to analytical laboratories?
And this is completely false. Aluminium has many natural pathways into the environment. The levels that are found in soil and water are completely normal. And even if they weren't - where is the demonstrable link to those long white trails in the sky, six to eight miles above your head that you don't understand?
I live near Dulles and National airports. The day starts off with a clear blue sky, then as the planes fly over they leave chemtrails which spread out and turn what should be a sunny day into a cloudy day. Planes did not use to do this. There didn't used to be grid patterns in the skies.
Jet aircraft have always produced contrails and the grid patterns you are observing are perfectly normal. Neither have anything to do with your proximity to airports.
Persistent contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years.
Spends 14 minutes saying weather control and contrails are nothing, then the next 4 minutes legitimizing weather control by using contrails. Genius.
Actually, they are discussing the radiative forcing effect of a contrail - there is a large body of current research into the extent of this.
@@yassassin6425 Radiative forcing effect ? Contrails by day = cool, by night= global warming. Mick West says so? A MI5/6 video game and internet virus programmer?
If addicting kids to a 'screen' , is the mark of a good human being......all praise Mick.
By his theory here (car exhaust).....then cars should leave a 'contrail' that lasts half a day behind them. Like old films of the ww2 'bomber armadas', they dissapate after a few plane lengths.......LOOK UP. Planes not spraying, still do. Some footage even shows this, one plane it dissapates, the other plane leaves a trail for hours. Both in the same atmospheric conditions.
There is a large body of corrupt retards that use thinktanks(research) , to counter theorys, and justify with bullshit their agendas.....like the Brookings Institution.
There is also, a large body of researchers, trying to figure out what goes on behind these 'closed door meetings'. To our paranoid govts, Mick West is the answer .....to stop these pesky investigators .....to explain in psyco-babble, what politicians REFUSE to.
* the basic allegory, is its like a 'blanket', and keeps the warmth in. Yearly temps have risen , each hotter than last. ......that blanket is getting thicker, and thicker.
a bit like peoples brains......isnt jesus coming on a cloud?
A talking snake=the devil......In God We Tru$T ?.....
BIBLE BELT ~ a region of VIRGINian MARYland, where the young are 'Belted' around the head, with a heavy KJV.
why dont u go and explain to Christians how wrong they are......
instead of attacking a rational intelligent comment .......who highlighted the absurdity.
14mins of ridiculing, and they are nothing......then close with contrails may be good for climate change..........is this your "radiative forcing effect" ?
Who FORCED Radioactive West, on to Joes program? Who pays BOTH their wages?
Murdoch..a Knight of St Gregory...papal propagandi....Mockingbird Master of the CIA.
@@deanhall9292
Yeah, radiative forcing...
Actually, science says that. Mick West is irrelevant.
The rest of your diatribe is as farcical as it is irrational. All the best airing these views to the rational and informed beyond the comments section of You Tube.
@@yassassin6425 Yeah......its a Radio-activated Farce alright. An ex-comedian turned commentator, and a ex-video gamer turned debunker are the EXPERT opinions?
Mick West is irrelevant.....>......about time u saw the 'light', john.
Thanks John. My theory must have been highly RELEVANT on his Metabunk~ chemtrail debunking website. He DELETED it, then BANNED me.
Pattern Perception? My theory on MH370 was DELETED on "anonymous' too.....as i was writing my closing paragraph in real time.
Today? TH-cam?......"Comments are Disabled for this video"....seems to be a pattern, an agenda there too.......especially anything on Vatican Pedophilia.
just like there is a pattern here. Trolls attacking rational comments....and slandering us as Chemtards......paranoid bunnys in rabit holes.....or addicted to flat-earth videos.
it links to HAARP........i suppose all this is a delusional, cloud in the sky too is it?
UFOS > "This Video Does Not Exist"......i must be delusional, i watched it yesterday, and somone posted some video there.........if u havent noticed that pattern...well...where the hell have u been?......oh thats right, scientific experts tell us they dont exist.....
well why has Pentagon admitted the video, confirmed with pilot testimony?
is it any wonder the public is CONFUSED and seeking answers elsewhere......
@@deanhall9292
No need for "experts" - the science speaks for itself.
Everything that you have just written is nonsensical, pseudoscientific conspiratorial junk.
Link me to the metabunk thread that you were banned from, - let's see why - only it seems you forgot.
I work as a uber driver and picked up this business guy and we were talking about chemtrails. He told me he used to think it was bs and didn't believe it one bit, he then told me he had a son in the air force. After 6 months when his son came home they talked and his son told him that they do spray the chemtrails. He told me his son didn't go into detail but said it's weather related. I personally don't think my passenger was bs me because super professional business guy. It wouldn't surprise me to be real
Must be true then
th-cam.com/video/GCHCi511sho/w-d-xo.html
Its cloud seeding, weather modification, its not Dangerous. And it is publicly open information, no secret there. Multiple countries do it to avoid flood, or for rain to stop burning jungle.
Chemtrail is non sense. If chemtrail real. They should target third world countries to reduce their population, and should not happen in US where the so called illuminati living, why they poison their own peoples or family or themself.
Chemtrails usually appears in heavy airplane traffic which are not in third world countries.
@@domehouse79 Once he mentioned that the dude was super professional I was convinced
china did same recently for olympics... to make sure it did not rain. Google about it...
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you
BS labels, they like those. Chem trails and "helping the US battle climate change" is what Germany admitted to 15 years ago. Not knowing or not caring to find out they were actually creating basis for the BS of climate change, aka weather manipulation.
My husband was military. I am sure there are plenty of military secrets he never told me. Pretty sure they sign a contract to that effect. It's not little local pilots.
There's a big difference between a condensation trail and a chemical trail. Geo engineering or cloud seeding has been going on since the 70s.
It goes farther back than that. Like the forties.
Geoengineering and cloud seeding are completely unrelated and has nothing whatsoever to do with the contrails that you are seeing.
Regarding the Spanish Royal Decree, the Spanish government instituted a series of extensive and in some cases, outright bizarre measures in order to mitigate the economic and social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, there is no mention of aerial spraying of biocides bar inference found on chemtrail conspiracy websites and fake news outlets such as Mike Adams' ludicrous 'Natural News'.
Fluoride is not added by all water authorities. Because it can strengthen and re-mineralise damaged enamel, making it more resistant to decay, it may be added to public drinking water and also toothpaste and mouthwash. Contrary to what you might hear, fluoride is a mineral that occurs in nature and is also naturally present in water, including our food. Where additions are made it is less than 0.1 ppm. So no need to get your pineal gland in a twist.
@@yassassin6425 completely unrelated? Oh you mean like COVID Vax is completely unrelated to anybody dying suddenly or the 2022 hike in all cause death rate? Sure! Completely unrelated. 😉 Gotcha.
@@roseparkerartist9657
What on earth are you talking about? Jeez, I've seen some tangential non-sequiturs from you people, but this is frankly staggering. Let me type it again, very slowly this time. Geoengineering...and...cloud seeding...are...completely...unrelated. Furthermore...neither...have...anything...to...do...with...aircraft...contrails.
@@yassassin6425 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection
Anybody live on the border of Mexico specifically South Texas. Chemtrails conspiracy or not they somehow mysteriously stop as planes cross overhead into Mexico and start as plains cross back into the US. I see it pretty often. I've been told by pilots that far South Texas and the Gulf of Mexico play a big part and why those chemtrails start and stop. Maybe I should try to catch it on video.
Have you caught it on video yet?
@@facetiousintent Lol flat earthers have been trying for decades to show evidence...
Great observation; notice doodler trying to tie you in with the flat Earthers and he failed.
I've got videos and albums. People are waking up. I have a friend in Venezuela and he says they don't get them there. But friends in the Uk and Ireland do.
@@facetiousintent maybe it's only countries in the UN .
FYI Joe why would they make it rain to stop "fires" they create yearly. I lived in Mexico for over a decade not one fire and it's hot and dry brush everywhere in the summertime not one fire. I come to California yearly fires 🤔. They even call it fire season 😂 like it's a program time to light it up. I always say the truth is in common sense, logic and a little research.
My research clearly shows that when you left Mexico you were deprived of the steroid laced beef that was making you a macho man and now you're a wimpy girly man which has turned you into a crazy firestarter
lots of eucalyptus trees there imported ages ago from australia, that shit is filled to the brim with highly flammable eucalyptus oil and during summers they go wild, just look at the 2020 australian fires and copy paste that into california
The skies definitely didn’t used to look like this. The government websites are full of information on geoengineering.
Well there is a larger volume of air traffic today and associated routes flown, so aircraft contrails are more prevalent. However, persistent spreading contrails have been observed, documented, recorded, photographed, filmed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude powered aviation and in excess of 80 years.
*_"The government websites are full of information on geoengineering."_*
Perhaps you should read it and then you'd understand what it actually consists of and why it has absolutely nothing to do with a dumb online conspiracy theory originating from the misidentification of aircraft contrails.
Contrails disapate where chemtrails take forever to disapate!
Firstly, the word that you're looking for and unsuccessfully parroted is 'dissipate'.
Secondly, instead of regurgitating what junk online conspiracy theory has told you to think, could you actually apply the known atmospheric science that determines this? Please explain which, detailing the physical laws that apply.
Thirdly, what if you were to actually learn some meteorological science for yourself, and were to discover that contrails can indeed persist, expand and increase in mass? What then for your online conspiracy belief?
I’ve gone down the Joe Rogan rabbit hole 🤷🏾♂️
Embrace it, don't fight it.
God of Lore I’m not fighting it bro I love it... Alex Jones is my spirit animal lol
That Mick West is the rabbit. Psyco babble, and PAID expert de-bunker, like priests play on fear of dying, he plays on words to make his sound sane.
@TMA (alumina added to avgas/kero).....@OBIGGS(retrofitted for tank explosions)
@SBX-1 (microwaves off alumnina ionosphere)......its for that storm steering earthquake maker.
Joe Rogan is jesuit aligned NWO....like psci-kop skeptic West.
@@deanhall9292
"Microwaves off alumina ionosphere?????" Storm steering?
What complete bollocks.
@@yassassin6425 Mick West DELETED and BANNED me from Metabunk a few yrs back when i posted this. Obviously. its too near the truth.
its TMA, ....OBIGGS were retro fitted....where is the SBX-1?
Your guest did a great job describing contrails. What he didn’t do was define chem trails.
Perhaps you can become the first ever chemtrail believer to actually state the means to differentiate between your supposed 'chemtrails' and those persistent contrails that have been observed, measured and studied since the early advent of high altitude aviation and in excess of 80 years. Go ahead then.
@@yassassin6425 ... tumbleweed...
you mean by calling them contrails, or just water vapor? watch it again.
What about the chem trails, as he sprays aluminum laden Axe Body Spray under his sack
Silver nitrate to make it rain. They actually do this in Dubai once a month. I wouldn't assume that is the only chemical/purpose for chemtrails either.
Incorrect - you are referring to silver iodide which is just one method of cloud seeding - and it isn't done once a month in Dubai at all. Cloud seeding can only work when there are existing clouds that are conducive to precipitation to seed. It does not create them. Cloud seeding has been practiced to mixed success since the 1950s. If you wish to term it 'chemtrails' then more fool you but it has nothing whatsoever to do with the misidentified contrails that are the origin and basis of this conspiracy theory.
@@yassassin6425 Whatever
I used to no believe in most conspiracies... Then they all became reality.
Such as?
Ohshit this guy co-founded Neversoft. RIP Tony Hawk game series.
Efreeti another corporate cocksucker feeding us lies about what is definite.... 👍.
Efreeti part of my child hood
This guy is a massive douche. His an official story guy. He even talks down Tesla. Who the fuck does that?
But if he created Tony Hawk, I guess he use to be cool.
I never believed in Chem trails, until one night out on a walk with my wife, it was around 6 pm, we looked up into the sky and there was a perfect "checker board" pattern as far as the eye could see
You mean commercial air traffic.
@@yassassin6425 no...he means checkerboard. Given the fact that there is a small portion of commercial air traffic since the pandemic began, why would there be the same proportion of cemtrails in the sky? Right.
@@erinyager1059
*_"no...he means checkerboard."_*
Appreciating that the sky is full of commercial aircraft flying to and from a range of national and international destinations in accordance with multiple airways headings and altitudes. If the conditions are conducive to the formation of persistent contrails, why wouldn't you expect them to appear to intersect from the perspective of a ground based observer looking up into three dimensional controlled airspace?
*_"Given the fact that there is a small portion of commercial air traffic since the pandemic began, why would there be the same proportion of cemtrails in the sky? Right."_*
Wrong.
Firstly, chemtrails don't exist, they are simply misidentified contrails?
And how have you established this? Although commercial air traffic was practically grounded initially it was reduced by about 60% in response to the initial global lockdowns between spring to summer. Nonetheless, air freight continued to fly. In fact in October, cargo was up 15% on 2019. Where are you located? I'll tell you precisely how many flights passed over you on any single day. Yesterday - the 12th December there were 63,000 flights worldwide.
Quick question for you out of interest, do you now how much one of these persistent trails weighs?
@@yassassin6425 man, you love debating people in comments. I've found you 6 times in the past 30 minutes
@@mrkraffbs9583
Yeah, 'debate' is a somewhat of a misnomer I'm afraid. Ever attempted to establish rational and constructive discourse with a chemtrail conspiracy believer? Try it.
I miss when TH-cam didn't censor. I loved listening to the conspiracy theories, doesn't mean I think the Earth's flat, but i was entertained. I guess it's not allowed because there's too many stupid people 🙁
All humans are stupid haha
The difference between a normal cloud and a chemtrail cloud. Put a big bowl of vinegar outside your house. See what happens. If you want to get rid of chemtrail clouds spray vinegar outside your house.
Could you explain the precise science behind a few litres of a liquid in a bowl that is 93-96% water dispelling clouds that are six to eight miles above it?
@@yassassin6425can you explain how Keith destroyed you and all your lying fake profiles. Let’s go Keith!!!!!
Free aluminum for everybody!!!time to set up my bucket and take it to the recycling center
Yes this guy knows without a shadow of a doubt and with 100% certainty that our government could never do anything covertly or without his knowledge because he’s so smart. /s
bro what are preparing for some autistic kid to read ur comment, i picked up the "que" no shit its sarcasm
He’s just explained the visual phenomenon of contrails. Are you doubting the science?
if the government really trying to kill you, do you think they would make it so obvious?
So you claims governments have the ability to defy the laws of physics to leave persistent trails hundreds of miles long that somehow spread and grow in mass over time and have been measured to weigh tens of millions of pounds.
That's like making an automated gun and setting it to kill everyone in the room including yourself. Would make much sense would it?
my state has a weather modification committee licensed by the Texas Dept. of Licensing and Registration (TDLR) they apply for permits for cloud seeding. They hold almost monthly meetings open to the public and videos online in which you can see and hear them talk about spraying chemicals out of their airplanes for weather modification purposes.
Dubai also makes it rain through cloud seeding because the Prince likes rain. They do it every weekend. Also main stream very easy to find. Like first google page results easy.
Was this discussed?
But no one one is denying the existence of cloud seeding programmes both state and privately sponsored. What's your point? This video is about misidentified contrails that conspiracy theorists term chemtrails. Why should it be discussed?
Secondly, Dubai does not make it rain "every weekend" that is absolutely false. Cloud seeding only works when there are existing clouds to seed - those that are conducive to precipitation.
13:43 I don’t believe in chem-trails, but as an engineer I can speak to the chemistry of aluminum. Metallic aluminum is what joe is referring to, and it is also what anti-vax people refer to. However, ionic aluminum looks like powder.
So, I do have to get after Joe about making the assumption that he knows what aluminum would look like falling from the sky.
wouldnt it still quickly fall or dissipate like he said? its still not a vapor
prandz420 depends how high it is released. I can’t say for sure, but it should act similarly to dust in the air. Thus, becoming nucleation sites for water to collect. Typically, they call it “cloud seeding”.
MrDannyd9 surely if it is aluminium of any kind it would vapourise with the heat produced as it passes through the jet engine?
There is an air force whistle blower who was in charge of all the chemicals being used, google it.
JOE !!!!
When he talks about his friend Bling Bling. HAHAHA
“You can monitor this on NASAs website” didn’t believe in Chem Trails till he said that
No, you can monitor contrails.
Why haven't we been seeing these contrails all our lives?
You have. Either that, or you weren't looking.
i am genuinely speechless at how dumb some of these comments are. i am staying faaaaar away from america
Agreed
Candle Ankle that statement is becoming harder to believe!
Charlie R hey, last night one of the most inbred states in the union elected a decent human over an accused pedophile. There’s not a lot, but there is some hope.
Joseph Bauer sure, but some countries are more fucked then others.
jiminal07 says the douches who will be bred out of control over your own country by Midwestern immigrants within 20 years.
Do wtc building 7.
Don't breed.
@@ElfRightsActivist stay in bed 🤤
@@ElfRightsActivist show me a plane hitting a pentagon
@Jim Johnson yea not really. people are just bored of you and the lizard people.
@Jim Johnson im waiting
Joe obviously doesn’t know the history of Geoengineering
What does geoengineering in any of its forms have to do with a dub conspiracy theory centred around the misidentified of aircraft contrails?
Prince was meeting with a scientist to speak about chemtrials but prince took a pill and did not wake up a week to have this meeting.
Nothing whatsoever to do with his fentanyl addiction then?
@@yassassin6425 maybe but pretty ironic its just before he is to make a speech and not after.
@@jonmacist
Prince was addicted to Fentanyl. I suggest that you read up on the circumstances surrounding his passing which are well understood. His belief in nonsensical conspiracy theory was neither here nor there and actually, although he mentioned it on a few occasions in interviews, quite an inconsequential part of his life,
So what 'scientist' was he allegedly due to have this meeting with and what's your source?
@@yassassin6425 yeah and someone probaly gave him to much of it or it was something else sad for you you believe MSM and government just like anyone you is about to speak on something dies from suicide, car accident, or overdoes lol evey time do reshearch there was a interview where he said he wondered about the chemtrails, and found people aacting crazy or different he was supsose to speak somewhere just after that interview, just saying he is to have this other interview like like not even 2 weeks later but dies, you said he had a fentalyl addcition thats what MSM says no proof , just saying the time frame is too close that is like saying i am gonna get fire insurance and 3 days your house burns down.
Why do you care anyway nothing else to do.