I just added the Google Nest wifi mesh in my house mostly so I could get wifi to my garage ultimately allowing me to put a camera up covering my driveway. My garage is detached from my house and prior to installing this system I had zero wifi signal in my garage. Now I have nearly the same speed in my garage as I do on my wired PC. It's been just under a week but I am definitely loving it.
I was hoping someone was doing this, as I'm in the same situation. How far away is your garage from your house roughly? Mine is about 20-25 meters from the house, and 30-35 meters from the traditional router in my lounge room. Currently i can JUST get wifi in the garage, but not consistently. Was hoping this product would work....
@@DanEather Get something like Netgear Powerline uses the house wiring to run the signal out to the garage than coverts it to WIFI seamlessly. Just like an extender same Network name and password. I have cameras on my garage which is too far and this works fantastic. www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-PowerLINE-1000-802-11ac-Gigabit/dp/B01929V7ZG
Yeah, when I was looking at it, it says that 1 router would be enough since it is only 800 sq. ft, but my condo's only cable port is at the very front of the unit. My back tv is 30 feet away from the router and my patio even farther providing a somewhat weak signal so I had to get an additional point. Proper coverage now.
I've had this system for about 3 months now. Easy setup and the wi-fi works great. Doubled my network speed over the single router I used to use. A few cons though. The main router only has one extra network port. The point devices have no network ports, only a power outlet. The system advertises only a single SSID name even though it's a dual band router. This was an issue with my printer which only works with the 2.4 GHz band. And finally, my point device stopped responding to the "hey google" prompt and is now useless as a Google assistant. No, the "mute" switch is NOT turned off. First thing I checked. From comments on googles support page, I'm not alone in having this issue.
For any power users and anyone in a high population density area, the router doesnt have power options for changing specific wifi settings like changing the ssid for the 2.4 and 5ghz antennas individually and changing the channel to broadcast on. Just these two things have been a huge inconvenience in the few months I have owned this. I have about 20 smart devices connected that are either 2.4 or 5ghz and they tend to lose connection a few times a month without being able to reconnect until a whole setup is completed along with a router reset. Doing a check on a wifi analyzer I can see that the router is choosing the most popular wifi channels and is getting a lot of interference. For anyone wanting to spend 2 minutes doing a first setup and who has a tech guy to take acare of issues, this is probably great.
Great video. I just bought some (base +2 points) today and was having buyer's remorse... then came across your video. I'm confident I made the right decision. Thank you for the easy explanations. Everyone else doing review videos...take note, this guy rocks.
No, it's because people who aren't familiar with the internet use "internet" and "wifi" interchangeably. i.e. "Pay my wifi bill." etc. So they think "Google WiFi" = "Google Internet" and all of a sudden their question makes complete sense in that context. Keep in mind, there are some people who have never had a network device other than the modem router combo their ISP gives them, so it makes sense to them.
Super informative video! I just bought one to replace my Orbi which I was not very happy with. Your voice and talking speed is also very pleasant on top of the great review so I will be subbing!
installed another one i had in my friend house directly to the fiver otn and spend time with google support couple of things we did the biggest one was changing the dns server to the internet provider one i will go today in the afternoon to see how the router behaves if not will submit then router report to them again and see what it does
@@dudumoomoo so far so good everything in his house was working perfectly i notice only the tv was loosing signal but my phone stock android and computer where still running as well his pc tv is kind of far from router i will say its working now said that its not a plug and play device like it should be lots of settings are hidden and need to use google wifi app to get access to them
Should mention if you had the old version of goggle Wi-Fi you can reset them and use them as access points with the new version. Since the old version has an Ethernet port, you can also use them to add a non Wi-Fi device like a printer onto your mesh network. I was able to hook up my laser printer/scanner to my network and put it my guest room where it’s out of the way.
Didn't see this video, but we upgraded to 400mbps recently and had to get a router that could handle it, and the nest wifi router without the point works well and covers our whole house. We got a decent sized house in Florida, and with this in the living room, we get 430mbps in our room. With the point, we only got 280mbps, so use it without the point if the point slows it down. It's amazing overall! If you want the speaking features, get a Google Home for like $40, and just the nest router for $169 if the point slows it down for you too.
Loves you & your videos! Buuut, you didn't mention obstacles (like HVACs, microwave ovens, W/Ds & metal bi-fold closet doors) that will interfere with the WiFi like we experienced in our 1300sqft apartment with 27 devices and only 6(!)Mbps. I'm handicapped so things like wall light switches, fans & some table lamps are quite difficult to operate. I've tried for years to resolve the signal outage & lost devices problems but when Google Nest WiFi came along it resolved ALL our issues in one swell foop. Granted, it's not perfect but so far nothing else has performed NEARLY as well as ANY of the other WiFi routers/repeaters I've tried. Thanks for helping us make the right choice!
Ethernet backhaul wasnt me tioned. Can it be used as AP rather than mmesh? Connectin a cat cable would secure an even better connection between router / switch and mesh / access points. Not aven a mention about this...
I’m on my third WiFi router and I’ve been getting tired of looking for reliable routers. I have 3 smart TVs, 4 cell phones, 3 gaming consoles, an iPad, laptop, and Nintendo Switch. Would this work? Also, does the WiFi drop? I really don’t want to buy any more routers.
This should work to make the signal stronger all over your home, however in my opinion make sure you have the best speed from you ISP to support all your devices.
The one BIG CON I have is google doesn't mention it but each mesh point is a ac1200 while the main one is a ac2200. Just buy one router point and use your existing old google mesh points for the same effect and you don't lose extra wired connection points. Money saved then buying a new three pack at 349.
So glad I found you. I'm a dinosaur and have trouble understanding all these tech terms but I need a Wifi system and you make it very easy to understand. I'm hoping you can answer a few questions before I make a purchase. My router and modem are in one room and the room furthest away does not get a good wifi signal because the walls in the apartment are cinder block. My router and modem were supplied by my Spectrum network. 1. If I remove my router and installed the Google Nest router, will the modem work with it? 2. Since my apartment is only 950 sq feet, will I need an extender in addition to the router and if yes, would I need more that one additional extender? 3. Or should i get two routers. Many Thanks, Margaret
I bought a used one off of eBay, came with a router and points, best purchase I made so far for. I even bought extra set of Google Nest for family members and also a backup in case something goes wrong with my current one
Another great video! I've had the first Google Wifi system for a few years now and have absolutely loved it. However, I live in a 3800 sq 3 story house and found that I needed 6 units. One plugged into the modem and 5 others scattered about the house. Works great. I REALLY want to upgrade to the Google Nest WiFi system, but there is just one thing holding me back. And that's that the points do not have Ethernet ports. I have a couple devices that are not wireless and need to be plugged into an Ethernet port. For example, my modem and main router are in the basement. My office is up on teh 3rd floor and I have a VOIP phone that I use for business, but it's not wireless, so I have it plugged into a Google Wifi unit in my office. Works great. My question is can the router also work as a point? For example, can I have one main router plugged into my modem in the basement and have additional routers around my house functioning as points to plug wired devices into?
Also WiFI signals travel in a downwards direction more easily than upwards. Just some thought to keep in mind when placing your routers in a 3 story house. I believe a majority of them time, router companies make claims of distance solely on a horizontal distance.
@@NathanCorachea so would my main router plugged via ethernet to the ONT have to be placed on the top floor or will i receive the same coverage whether its the router or point on the top floor?
As a Mesh network, you don’t experience decreased speeds when your device is connected to the access point, like you would when connected to a repeater/second router. Normally a repeater/second router has two do two things. Talk to the main router and talk to your device. For this reason, the speed is cut in half. But with Mesh network technology, this is not the case. Rather than acting independently, they communicate as one unit.
Hey Josh, been a while since I've commented on one of your videos. I was recently in the market for a new router earlier this year. I went with the TP-Link C4000, which was a 2019 router model. I went this route over mesh because I still like to separate my 2.4, and 5gthz networks. The Main reason being is, some smart devices I use, require the hardware, and software to be on the same 2.4gh network for configuration. After everything is setup, it's fine to return the iPad, iPhone to the 5ghz channel for normal operation. Since Google doesn't allow, or offer band separation, how does that fare for stability with smart device setup, and operation? The other factor is, my 1 bedroom apartment is only 877 sq ft, based on a floor plan i looked at online from the property. Seems like mesh would be overkill as well as well. However, as an aid to improve signal strength I have connected an Airport extreme router in the bedroom to a switch connected to the main router, and given it the same SSID name for each active band as the main router, as well as the same password, and security. Seems like devices closest to that AP instinctively connect to, it while the main router still manages DHCP and the actual routing. So far, everything seems rock solid, so would google nest, or Mesh period offer me anything over my existing setup ? thanks
It was a garbage decision to not include Ethernet jacks in the access points. I ended up buying only the Nest router, and used my existing gen 1 (wired) access points to get wired mesh, and I’m very happy with this setup. Note that with Google fiber, you don’t need a router in addition to the Nest router anymore. You can plug your Nest router directly into the Fiber jack.
Yeah I got this and returned it 2 weeks later. I have a modem/router combo that was provided by my ISP. Regularly, and that's an understatement, my Google nest router would disconnect for about a minute then re connect. It did this about 20-30 times a day! Upon calling both my isp and Google for troubleshooting and 2 weeks of trying to fix it I ultimately returned it.
Thats not googles issue. That is yours. You shouldnt be connecting two routers together either way. What you should have done was return your ISP router and ask to replace it with just a modem instead....which they would have been glad to do and would have probably saved you some money as the modem was probably cheaper than the combo. Then use THIS as the actual main and only router.
Uh I didn't pay for the combo. It's standard for any of AT&T installations of fiber. Besides the point. I went through the steps to turn off the ISP router and was able to do so. Still didn't solve the problem.
I found that my modem's WiFi is unstable and disconnects like yours. The Ethernet connection is stable. I think the provider knows this and uses this to "upgrade" to higher speed service because every time I call them about it they say that is what they recommend. However, I did get one person to be straight with me and told me that the software for the modem was the issue. If this is the case, my provider is scamming people and purposely sabotaging the WiFi on the modems they send to their customers. Thanks Centurylink! sarcasm noted.
My new Google mesh router also was cutting out multiple times a day. I do not have a modem/router combo. I reinstalled my old Google mesh WiFi (the ones that look like a hockey puck) and now everything is back to normal. I also like the fact that the old points have Ethernet ports. Only the new Google mesh router has Ethernet ports. I ended up returning the new Google mesh system.
I'm about to order a Router with one point, but can you confirm - does the Point have an ethernet out? (my legacy desktops need the wire!) Thanks for this and other videos as well.
@@alexandermuniz2531 THANK YOU Alex. Kept me from making a big mistake. I'll go for 2 full Next routers. Ethernet and better coverage while I'm at it. Didn't know that TH-camr's could be so responsive! wonderful! thank you!
@@LanceNYC You're welcome! Check into Netgear's ORBI system. I used to have the mini and it worked great. Only reason I switched is because a power surge fried the power supply of the satellite
@@alexandermuniz2531 I'm looking forward to building on my Google / Android / Google home environment. I like the idea that it's all integrated, one app to manage. So, errrr not going to consider another vendor if you know what I mean. ;-)
Is Nest Wifi (or any other mesh router) really needed for a 2-room apartment? I mean, sure, if you have a house with two floors and many rooms, maybe you need a mesh network, but I don't really see the point of the expensive Nest Wifi router for a common apartment (sure, it has parental controls and some other few software gimmicks, but I still consider it a bit too expensive for this particular case). What do you think, would you recommend it for a small/medium apartment?
I use the router and the point so I get wifi to my garage across the street, but for most apartments all you would need is the router itself. So def worth price comparing with other routers, but I'd probably still do it just because of the app and the fact it's the same app I'm already using every day to control other Google products in my setup. The performance from just the router has been good so far. Barely notice a difference in speed between the connection coming in from the ISP to the router and the speed over wifi. - Josh
Great review! I'm upgrading my Google WiFi to Nest WiFi. I've been on the 1st gen for 3 years now and it's been really nice! I decided to get this one when I saw Costco had a 4-Pak (Router and 3 Points) for $299.99!! I plan on selling my old 3 pack. I there any benefit to keeping it around? Can it be added to the new mesh?
I just return 2 sets 4-Pak (Router and 3 Points) back to Costco. Google Wi-Fi drops the internet connection frequently. It is well known issue after the last software update. You can google around and tons of posting regarding the issue (support.google.com/googlenest/thread/35111427?hl=en) . Until the connection issue get resolve, the system is useless.
Yup same problem here as with Anthony’s. I also got it from COSTCO but returned it. Went back to my old Google mesh system. In answer to Jason’s question, The old Google mesh points can be used as points with the new Google mesh WiFi router. It worked for me.
Requiring a modem to connect this router to is understandable since there is no DSL/Fibre receiver/device built-in. But what about apartment block networks - I've got my net from ISP that offers Fiber to several switches in our apartment block and from those - 10GbE (multigig) copper to respective apartments, one of the drawbacks being their old approach of allowing a specific MAC to be on receiving end as per contract. Therefore my question is - can it be connected directly to such block-/district-wide LAN upon setup or does it need to have a working internet connection from the devices to be managed whence you can change the MAC of the router so it could replace the old router currently in use? If you cannot change the MAC of the WAN port such a device in my case becomes just yet another router/ap appliance and loses a lot of points...
So if I hook one up to my router downstairs and put the point in our upstairs game room this should fine? Or do I need to leave a point downstairs and put an extra one up there?
Just depends on how big your house is. With mine for example it's working great with the router downstairs and one point at the complete opposite of the house upstairs. But my house is a little over 2000 square feet with not a lot of walls to go through upstairs.
Mine really slowed down after about a year. Not sure if it was a bad software update or something else. I switched to a nighthawk mesh system. Hopefully it holds up better. I really liked the nest when it was working. Also doesn’t look bad in a room the way most other systems do.
You do NOT need a modem or your ISP modem. It’s only needed if you have other services from your ISP provider such as cable/dish service. Otherwise, disconnect your modem & wire directly will work even better. That’s how I have mine but I only purchase Fios internet service
802.11ax (wifi6) is a must if you have bought or will buy a new phone anytime soon. I'll be waiting for the next version of the nest before I upgrade. I like the google home integration though...
Awesome job again! Question. If my ISP provides me with a wireless modem / router, would I need to get a regular modem to use Nest Wifi or would it work with the one I have?
Technically no, you wouldn’t. But you could probably save some cost on renting the equipment by buying your own modem. Depending on your internet speed, you can get away with a router that’s anywhere from $50 to $100. Just make sure it’s compatible with your ISP.
Hi - just got off the phone with Google. Had trouble connected a new Wired Camera w/Floodlight to my Home nest network. They said the Connecting to other Nest devices won't work over IPv6, and needs to use IPv4 to join with another Nest device (I have a doorbell, Hub and Mini). It could not see any of them even after moving them in the garage closer. Spectrum told me they cannot disable IPv6. I think this is why the Nest Wifi router only supports IPv6. I am considering using this for my nest devices. I hope it works.
So my house is 1300 sqft so obviously one is enough. but does that mean 2000 sqft through walls? or should you be buying points if you're putting them on different floors?
Had the exact same mesh. It was fine for like 8 months. Then after an update in Nov it started dropping consistently and requiring reboots multiple times a day. This is a known issue on reddit
I currently have a Google Wifi device. If I buy a Google Nest Wifi will the Google Wifi device be compatible for that mesh network or do all the points have to be Google Nest Wifi devices?
Can you give the link to the Google tool your using at 10:45 where you can see how many you need? I can't find the site anywhere and I'm curious if I should need 2 or only 1
I have the 3 pack and currently running 450mbps. I can't seem to get past 120mbps on the points. Customer service has been anything, but superb, but haven't found a solution to why I am always capped at those speeds.
@@john-ze7eu I also added another router and back hauled it to the living room area and that has really boosted the speeds. It actually works like a charm.
Nice review I was looking for this review. I just have some comments of you encountered also. - when I'm listening to music (on my Nest WiFi it goes Google Music) and I receive a duo call. Either I accept the call on my phone or on the Nest wifi. My music will not continue after. I can either put the music direct from the Nest WiFi or direct from my phone and cast to the Nest WiFi. The music will just not continue to play back after I stopped the call. Sometimes on my phone the music player in this case TH-cam Music. Just shut down. Not sure of it's TH-cam Music problem? Because I have similar problem when I'm on Duo on my phone the music stopped. - Another issue I'm having. When ever I say play certain music from TH-cam Music. It will go and turn on my TV. My music choice is set now for Google Music on the Nest WiFi. But if I put it for TH-cam Music and ask for play music. It will turn on my TV and open TH-cam. Whenever Google decide to ditch Google Music, than I will have a problem that I can not listen to music anymore from the Nest WiFi, as it will turn my TV and open TH-cam. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Since you didn't bother to say anything about it, I guess I should assume that the points do NOT have any ethernet ports. I've got a TV box (and got to use that specific hardware) that can only connect with a wired connection, and modem and router in another room. I currently use adapters that signal over the power wires in my apartment to avoid having to run ethernet from the router to the TV box, but the network is not super fast, nor as reliable as I'd like. I don't really need a wi-fi mesh, but would consider Nest Wi-Fi if it would provide me with a few (or even one, but including a few seems only sensible as it adds very little cost) ethernet ports as well built into each "point" (i.e. the units typically placed far from the modem and router). Such a feature would also allow devices with poor built-in wifi but also an ethernet port, like an old laptop, to get a speed boost... Anyone know what hardware I need? Is there anything on the market that I can connect to my existing wi-fi network and just get some ethernet ports..? What's such a device even called?
you can ping your neighbors wifi if you use your router as an antena and piggyback on their signal so no you do not really need a isp if you know what you are doing (and i said ping because its easy to check if you can do so and i know pinging is not actually how its done)
Can I add multiple points more than 2 ? if that's not the case, can I turn routing off and use the set up as AP expansion ? For instance I will hook up 2 bases to my netgear router and place 4 points around
Love my nest google WiFi. My house is about 4,000 sq ft. And I have the 3 pack. It’s a bigger hole with 6 bedrooms and I noticed at one end of the house 2 bedrooms lose a little bit of signal. So think I might get 1-2 more points for that end and maybe the garage or back yard so I’m covered outside everywhere and helps having assistant/speaker also.
Probably because all-in-ones are usually junk, they would have to make one with DSL and one to support cable, then you have different versions of the mentioned like docsis3.0 etc. This would also affect the size of the actual profile product and make it larger. Sounds like it would be a money sink for Google when everyone typically has cable/DSL modems provided from their ISPs.
@@tastedissbalut Not to mention if your ISP upgrades their network such as starting to offer FTTP or you change ISP from say a xDSL provider to a cable provider your google wifi/nest wifi would become useless unless it also bad a secondary WAN RJ45 port. It's also more beneficial to be able to place the google/nest wifi in a more suitable spot and if necessary run a long ethernet cable to the location from your modem than it is to try and extend the phone line or coax cable to a suitable location to use an all in one solution
I have a bunch of smart devices at home and after my new neighbor moved with another bunch of smart devices my wifi started to collapse; I have to monitor the channels to look for a less busy one but that doesn’t last. So In this scenario I think wifi 6 is a need... what do you think?
There are a couple of things i don't like. You can't schedule uodates. I have had an update happen on my nest devices during peak. Bad timing. I don't like only being able to prioritize one device, and for a max of 4 hours. That you have to disable guest when connecting new chromecast devices, albeit once connected you can re-enable the guest.
I think you only need Home to install, then you can use Google WiFi application and give full access there without providing access to all products in Google Home?
quick question, am i able to use the google nest system with a non google branded router such as an asus router? can google nest act as a piggyback system?
I want this and think it’ll be great. My current wifi extender is complete trash and I want something to help my guest room receive signal to the tv there. The problem is that the tv is a close distance to the actual modem but not close enough to receive good signal. Would I be able to plug in the username & password on the tv to connect to the nest?? I want the thank to connect to the extender instead of the actual modem but bc there is no difference in login, it doesn’t work!!!
I may have missed something but if I’m going from room to room are all the points the same connection or do I have to connect to different points with different WiFi names? Hope this makes sense
I just added the Google Nest wifi mesh in my house mostly so I could get wifi to my garage ultimately allowing me to put a camera up covering my driveway. My garage is detached from my house and prior to installing this system I had zero wifi signal in my garage. Now I have nearly the same speed in my garage as I do on my wired PC. It's been just under a week but I am definitely loving it.
I was hoping someone was doing this, as I'm in the same situation. How far away is your garage from your house roughly? Mine is about 20-25 meters from the house, and 30-35 meters from the traditional router in my lounge room. Currently i can JUST get wifi in the garage, but not consistently. Was hoping this product would work....
Try adding an extender/repeater. That’s what I did
@@2lotsill There are wifi plugs in the outlet. I agree!!!
@@DanEather Get something like Netgear Powerline uses the house wiring to run the signal out to the garage than coverts it to WIFI seamlessly. Just like an extender same Network name and password. I have cameras on my garage which is too far and this works fantastic. www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-PowerLINE-1000-802-11ac-Gigabit/dp/B01929V7ZG
@@2lotsill this is way better than an extender
If you ask "do I still need to pay for WiFi" a smart home isn't for you.
Jason Herzog don’t be such a pompous ass.
Those who ask that question, should get McDonald’s WiFi.
@@kristinmarra7005 stfu
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@@kristinmarra7005 u really ar a marra
To make the buying guide easier they should use radius instead of square feet. Radius for the router is 26.5ft and the radius of the point is 22.5ft.
Thanks
Metric system is superior
They probably do that because 2200 sq ft sounds more impressive lol
@@Slanovich To the uneducated.😐
Yeah, when I was looking at it, it says that 1 router would be enough since it is only 800 sq. ft, but my condo's only cable port is at the very front of the unit. My back tv is 30 feet away from the router and my patio even farther providing a somewhat weak signal so I had to get an additional point. Proper coverage now.
I love how people ask if they still need an ISP to use a ROUTER.
I know right, basic common sense.
I'm not surprised anymore. After seeing who people will vote for...
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@@ingram1225 right 😂😂😂😂
Lol 😆 nope free wifi thanks elon musk
I just got this router and I'm so happy with it, so far. Thanks, Zack Morris, for the review.
Wifi 6 at this point is just a nice to have - the same was told about 4k, 2 years later, and it's a must have already for movies.
I've had this system for about 3 months now. Easy setup and the wi-fi works great. Doubled my network speed over the single router I used to use. A few cons though. The main router only has one extra network port. The point devices have no network ports, only a power outlet. The system advertises only a single SSID name even though it's a dual band router. This was an issue with my printer which only works with the 2.4 GHz band. And finally, my point device stopped responding to the "hey google" prompt and is now useless as a Google assistant. No, the "mute" switch is NOT turned off. First thing I checked. From comments on googles support page, I'm not alone in having this issue.
On April 1st you should do a 6 months early review
"Router is invisible, doesn't even show up in my WiFi list. 0/10"
Do they have away of turning off the audio listening?
Yes, there's a physical mute switch on the back
For any power users and anyone in a high population density area, the router doesnt have power options for changing specific wifi settings like changing the ssid for the 2.4 and 5ghz antennas individually and changing the channel to broadcast on. Just these two things have been a huge inconvenience in the few months I have owned this. I have about 20 smart devices connected that are either 2.4 or 5ghz and they tend to lose connection a few times a month without being able to reconnect until a whole setup is completed along with a router reset. Doing a check on a wifi analyzer I can see that the router is choosing the most popular wifi channels and is getting a lot of interference. For anyone wanting to spend 2 minutes doing a first setup and who has a tech guy to take acare of issues, this is probably great.
Then what do you suggest with a place that has like 25-50 internet users?
@@AllenTax eap660 hd from tp link
Great video. I just bought some (base +2 points) today and was having buyer's remorse... then came across your video. I'm confident I made the right decision. Thank you for the easy explanations. Everyone else doing review videos...take note, this guy rocks.
Super informative! So happy you mentioned disabling the Orange led on Nest Point when the mic is muted!
“Do I still have to pay for WiFi” that is the dumbest question I’ve seen in awhile 🤣
Second only to the fact they asked "do i still have to pay for the internet service". Free internet, wouldn't that be nice.
Karens assemble
immediately stopped watching after I heard this.
lol that rly should be understood without saying. The person who made the comment was probably trolling.
No, it's because people who aren't familiar with the internet use "internet" and "wifi" interchangeably. i.e. "Pay my wifi bill." etc. So they think "Google WiFi" = "Google Internet" and all of a sudden their question makes complete sense in that context.
Keep in mind, there are some people who have never had a network device other than the modem router combo their ISP gives them, so it makes sense to them.
Super informative video! I just bought one to replace my Orbi which I was not very happy with. Your voice and talking speed is also very pleasant on top of the great review so I will be subbing!
The price going down so fast. I got my google WiFi 150$ for 3, now I got the Nest WiFi 70$ for 3
Great video. Seriously, this is a very helpful and informative video. You deserve well over 100k subs and you will get there.
amazing episode, a lot of youtubers did not give me as much as you guys thank you
How is this asix month review, with nearly no data on how it ran over the time? Its more about specs.
Have you seen frequent disconnect issues that many have experienced with the latest firmware they released in June?
at home i gave up try with my other brand new on my friend house he is complaining with the same problem different internet providers shame
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any fix for this?
installed another one i had in my friend house directly to the fiver otn and spend time with google support couple of things we did the biggest one was changing the dns server to the internet provider one i will go today in the afternoon to see how the router behaves if not will submit then router report to them again and see what it does
@@cristobalortizortiz ok can u update us if it works
@@dudumoomoo so far so good everything in his house was working perfectly i notice only the tv was loosing signal but my phone stock android and computer where still running as well his pc tv is kind of far from router i will say its working now said that its not a plug and play device like it should be lots of settings are hidden and need to use google wifi app to get access to them
Should mention if you had the old version of goggle Wi-Fi you can reset them and use them as access points with the new version. Since the old version has an Ethernet port, you can also use them to add a non Wi-Fi device like a printer onto your mesh network. I was able to hook up my laser printer/scanner to my network and put it my guest room where it’s out of the way.
Didn't see this video, but we upgraded to 400mbps recently and had to get a router that could handle it, and the nest wifi router without the point works well and covers our whole house. We got a decent sized house in Florida, and with this in the living room, we get 430mbps in our room. With the point, we only got 280mbps, so use it without the point if the point slows it down. It's amazing overall!
If you want the speaking features, get a Google Home for like $40, and just the nest router for $169 if the point slows it down for you too.
Considering your plugging it into your current router, do you have to make new wifi logins for the nest?
Loves you & your videos! Buuut, you didn't mention obstacles (like HVACs, microwave ovens, W/Ds & metal bi-fold closet doors) that will interfere with the WiFi like we experienced in our 1300sqft apartment with 27 devices and only 6(!)Mbps. I'm handicapped so things like wall light switches, fans & some table lamps are quite difficult to operate. I've tried for years to resolve the signal outage & lost devices problems but when Google Nest WiFi came along it resolved ALL our issues in one swell foop. Granted, it's not perfect but so far nothing else has performed NEARLY as well as ANY of the other WiFi routers/repeaters I've tried. Thanks for helping us make the right choice!
Ethernet backhaul wasnt me tioned. Can it be used as AP rather than mmesh? Connectin a cat cable would secure an even better connection between router / switch and mesh / access points. Not aven a mention about this...
Would love to see a 6 months later review on the roav bolt and how it's been working for you the last year!
Answered all my questions regarding this device. Thank you!
I’m on my third WiFi router and I’ve been getting tired of looking for reliable routers. I have 3 smart TVs, 4 cell phones, 3 gaming consoles, an iPad, laptop, and Nintendo Switch. Would this work? Also, does the WiFi drop? I really don’t want to buy any more routers.
This would work perfectly for you. The WiFi should not drop unless there is a problem with your modem.
This should work to make the signal stronger all over your home, however in my opinion make sure you have the best speed from you ISP to support all your devices.
The one BIG CON I have is google doesn't mention it but each mesh point is a ac1200 while the main one is a ac2200. Just buy one router point and use your existing old google mesh points for the same effect and you don't lose extra wired connection points. Money saved then buying a new three pack at 349.
Looking forward to replacing my google wifi soon. I've had it for a year. Its underpowered. Also a nightmare to set up 2.4ghz IOT devices.
So glad I found you. I'm a dinosaur and have trouble understanding all these tech terms but I need a Wifi system and you make it very easy to understand. I'm hoping you can answer a few questions before I make a purchase.
My router and modem are in one room and the room furthest away does not get a good wifi signal because the walls in the apartment are cinder block. My router and modem were supplied by my Spectrum network. 1. If I remove my router and installed the Google Nest router, will the modem work with it? 2. Since my apartment is only 950 sq feet, will I need an extender in addition to the router and if yes, would I need more that one additional extender? 3. Or should i get two routers.
Many Thanks,
Margaret
I bought a used one off of eBay, came with a router and points, best purchase I made so far for. I even bought extra set of Google Nest for family members and also a backup in case something goes wrong with my current one
Another great video! I've had the first Google Wifi system for a few years now and have absolutely loved it. However, I live in a 3800 sq 3 story house and found that I needed 6 units. One plugged into the modem and 5 others scattered about the house. Works great.
I REALLY want to upgrade to the Google Nest WiFi system, but there is just one thing holding me back. And that's that the points do not have Ethernet ports. I have a couple devices that are not wireless and need to be plugged into an Ethernet port. For example, my modem and main router are in the basement. My office is up on teh 3rd floor and I have a VOIP phone that I use for business, but it's not wireless, so I have it plugged into a Google Wifi unit in my office. Works great. My question is can the router also work as a point? For example, can I have one main router plugged into my modem in the basement and have additional routers around my house functioning as points to plug wired devices into?
Thank you! Yes, the router can also be used as a point and can buy a pack of them on sites like Amazon.
Yes it can, and you can mix and match with the old routers
Also WiFI signals travel in a downwards direction more easily than upwards. Just some thought to keep in mind when placing your routers in a 3 story house. I believe a majority of them time, router companies make claims of distance solely on a horizontal distance.
@@NathanCorachea so would my main router plugged via ethernet to the ONT have to be placed on the top floor or will i receive the same coverage whether its the router or point on the top floor?
What makes them better as a generic repeater or a second router (for example used, so it's cheaper) as an access point?
Cloud management, enchanted SafeSearch filtering, device grouping, WPA3, Google Assistant on the Point, and so-on.
As a Mesh network, you don’t experience decreased speeds when your device is connected to the access point, like you would when connected to a repeater/second router. Normally a repeater/second router has two do two things. Talk to the main router and talk to your device. For this reason, the speed is cut in half. But with Mesh network technology, this is not the case. Rather than acting independently, they communicate as one unit.
@@NathanCorachea What about gaming? Would it have lower latency?
TechQuickie did a video on this, worth checking it out
Thanks for your answers!
Hey Josh, been a while since I've commented on one of your videos. I was recently in the market for a new router earlier this year. I went with the TP-Link C4000, which was a 2019 router model. I went this route over mesh because I still like to separate my 2.4, and 5gthz networks. The Main reason being is, some smart devices I use, require the hardware, and software to be on the same 2.4gh network for configuration. After everything is setup, it's fine to return the iPad, iPhone to the 5ghz channel for normal operation. Since Google doesn't allow, or offer band separation, how does that fare for stability with smart device setup, and operation? The other factor is, my 1 bedroom apartment is only 877 sq ft, based on a floor plan i looked at online from the property. Seems like mesh would be overkill as well as well. However, as an aid to improve signal strength I have connected an Airport extreme router in the bedroom to a switch connected to the main router, and given it the same SSID name for each active band as the main router, as well as the same password, and security. Seems like devices closest to that AP instinctively connect to, it while the main router still manages DHCP and the actual routing. So far, everything seems rock solid, so would google nest, or Mesh period offer me anything over my existing setup ? thanks
Great information. Do you still recommend this item?
Yes! It's still there router we're using for our setup and has been working fine
It was a garbage decision to not include Ethernet jacks in the access points. I ended up buying only the Nest router, and used my existing gen 1 (wired) access points to get wired mesh, and I’m very happy with this setup. Note that with Google fiber, you don’t need a router in addition to the Nest router anymore. You can plug your Nest router directly into the Fiber jack.
Great review. Only complaint is that 8 out of 10 sentences started with "Now,"
Yeah I got this and returned it 2 weeks later. I have a modem/router combo that was provided by my ISP. Regularly, and that's an understatement, my Google nest router would disconnect for about a minute then re connect. It did this about 20-30 times a day! Upon calling both my isp and Google for troubleshooting and 2 weeks of trying to fix it I ultimately returned it.
Thats not googles issue. That is yours. You shouldnt be connecting two routers together either way. What you should have done was return your ISP router and ask to replace it with just a modem instead....which they would have been glad to do and would have probably saved you some money as the modem was probably cheaper than the combo.
Then use THIS as the actual main and only router.
Uh I didn't pay for the combo. It's standard for any of AT&T installations of fiber. Besides the point. I went through the steps to turn off the ISP router and was able to do so. Still didn't solve the problem.
I found that my modem's WiFi is unstable and disconnects like yours. The Ethernet connection is stable. I think the provider knows this and uses this to "upgrade" to higher speed service because every time I call them about it they say that is what they recommend. However, I did get one person to be straight with me and told me that the software for the modem was the issue. If this is the case, my provider is scamming people and purposely sabotaging the WiFi on the modems they send to their customers. Thanks Centurylink! sarcasm noted.
My new Google mesh router also was cutting out multiple times a day. I do not have a modem/router combo. I reinstalled my old Google mesh WiFi (the ones that look like a hockey puck) and now everything is back to normal. I also like the fact that the old points have Ethernet ports. Only the new Google mesh router has Ethernet ports. I ended up returning the new Google mesh system.
@@guardianali or bypass the router
Is nest WiFi better than the usual Netgear nighthawk routers.
I'm about to order a Router with one point, but can you confirm - does the Point have an ethernet out? (my legacy desktops need the wire!) Thanks for this and other videos as well.
Points have no ethernet connections
@@alexandermuniz2531 THANK YOU Alex. Kept me from making a big mistake. I'll go for 2 full Next routers. Ethernet and better coverage while I'm at it. Didn't know that TH-camr's could be so responsive! wonderful! thank you!
@@LanceNYC You're welcome! Check into Netgear's ORBI system. I used to have the mini and it worked great. Only reason I switched is because a power surge fried the power supply of the satellite
@@alexandermuniz2531 I'm looking forward to building on my Google / Android / Google home environment. I like the idea that it's all integrated, one app to manage. So, errrr not going to consider another vendor if you know what I mean. ;-)
Is Nest Wifi (or any other mesh router) really needed for a 2-room apartment? I mean, sure, if you have a house with two floors and many rooms, maybe you need a mesh network, but I don't really see the point of the expensive Nest Wifi router for a common apartment (sure, it has parental controls and some other few software gimmicks, but I still consider it a bit too expensive for this particular case). What do you think, would you recommend it for a small/medium apartment?
I use the router and the point so I get wifi to my garage across the street, but for most apartments all you would need is the router itself. So def worth price comparing with other routers, but I'd probably still do it just because of the app and the fact it's the same app I'm already using every day to control other Google products in my setup. The performance from just the router has been good so far. Barely notice a difference in speed between the connection coming in from the ISP to the router and the speed over wifi. - Josh
@@6MonthsLater lol I bought the router and 2 points
Great review! I'm upgrading my Google WiFi to Nest WiFi. I've been on the 1st gen for 3 years now and it's been really nice! I decided to get this one when I saw Costco had a 4-Pak (Router and 3 Points) for $299.99!! I plan on selling my old 3 pack. I there any benefit to keeping it around? Can it be added to the new mesh?
I just return 2 sets 4-Pak (Router and 3 Points) back to Costco. Google Wi-Fi drops the internet connection frequently. It is well known issue after the last software update. You can google around and tons of posting regarding the issue (support.google.com/googlenest/thread/35111427?hl=en) . Until the connection issue get resolve, the system is useless.
Yup same problem here as with Anthony’s. I also got it from COSTCO but returned it. Went back to my old Google mesh system. In answer to Jason’s question, The old Google mesh points can be used as points with the new Google mesh WiFi router. It worked for me.
Requiring a modem to connect this router to is understandable since there is no DSL/Fibre receiver/device built-in. But what about apartment block networks - I've got my net from ISP that offers Fiber to several switches in our apartment block and from those - 10GbE (multigig) copper to respective apartments, one of the drawbacks being their old approach of allowing a specific MAC to be on receiving end as per contract. Therefore my question is - can it be connected directly to such block-/district-wide LAN upon setup or does it need to have a working internet connection from the devices to be managed whence you can change the MAC of the router so it could replace the old router currently in use? If you cannot change the MAC of the WAN port such a device in my case becomes just yet another router/ap appliance and loses a lot of points...
can you take this thing with you like a mobile hot spot ?? good connection ? run out of data fast ? 5G ? 4g ?
So if I hook one up to my router downstairs and put the point in our upstairs game room this should fine? Or do I need to leave a point downstairs and put an extra one up there?
Just depends on how big your house is. With mine for example it's working great with the router downstairs and one point at the complete opposite of the house upstairs. But my house is a little over 2000 square feet with not a lot of walls to go through upstairs.
Mine really slowed down after about a year. Not sure if it was a bad software update or something else. I switched to a nighthawk mesh system. Hopefully it holds up better. I really liked the nest when it was working. Also doesn’t look bad in a room the way most other systems do.
What’s the best way to upgrade from google WiFi to nest WiFi devices? Should I simply unplug all google WiFi devices and plug the new ones in?
You do NOT need a modem or your ISP modem. It’s only needed if you have other services from your ISP provider such as cable/dish service. Otherwise, disconnect your modem & wire directly will work even better. That’s how I have mine but I only purchase Fios internet service
I was looking into these.
Thanks for the honest & thorough review!
how far can it spread? if I had these arpund the farm yard would it work?
This is mentioned at 2:20
802.11ax (wifi6) is a must if you have bought or will buy a new phone anytime soon. I'll be waiting for the next version of the nest before I upgrade. I like the google home integration though...
Can it also be used as a printer server as other wifi routers?
u got my sub and support,this channel is exactly what I was looking for
Super review, loads of time tested content.
Is this good for gaming though ?
Does this router play music?
Awesome job again! Question. If my ISP provides me with a wireless modem / router, would I need to get a regular modem to use Nest Wifi or would it work with the one I have?
Technically no, you wouldn’t. But you could probably save some cost on renting the equipment by buying your own modem. Depending on your internet speed, you can get away with a router that’s anywhere from $50 to $100. Just make sure it’s compatible with your ISP.
You can ask your ISP to swap that combo unit out for a separate modem router.
Hi - just got off the phone with Google. Had trouble connected a new Wired Camera w/Floodlight to my Home nest network. They said the Connecting to other Nest devices won't work over IPv6, and needs to use IPv4 to join with another Nest device (I have a doorbell, Hub and Mini). It could not see any of them even after moving them in the garage closer. Spectrum told me they cannot disable IPv6. I think this is why the Nest Wifi router only supports IPv6. I am considering using this for my nest devices. I hope it works.
Did you mention if you can buy just a point if the ISP given us a router ?
So my house is 1300 sqft so obviously one is enough. but does that mean 2000 sqft through walls? or should you be buying points if you're putting them on different floors?
Do you need a WiFi service, currently with spectrum. Or is this is own service
Answered at 0:46 in the video th-cam.com/video/iyRSXknfTXE/w-d-xo.html
@@6MonthsLater ahhhh... Much appreciated thanks
If I get a two-pack of the routers, can they connect through mesh, or do they both need to be on the modem?
Had the exact same mesh. It was fine for like 8 months. Then after an update in Nov it started dropping consistently and requiring reboots multiple times a day. This is a known issue on reddit
I currently have a Google Wifi device. If I buy a Google Nest Wifi will the Google Wifi device be compatible for that mesh network or do all the points have to be Google Nest Wifi devices?
Will the speed be as better if I buy the 2 points but don't actually need it? Will this help the speed of the wifi? Or only give more coverage?
Does it work with Apple HomeKit? Can you change Google Assistant to Siri?
Can you connect Google WiFi points to a Chromecast with Google TV for audio output?
I'm dealing with issues in my DLINK Covr mesh system. I'm wondering if the Google Nest mesh will be better suited to my tri-level home
Would this product make my internet faster? Particularly in streaming. I currently have xfinity
Thanks for the review of the product & for making the video.
Can you give the link to the Google tool your using at 10:45 where you can see how many you need? I can't find the site anywhere and I'm curious if I should need 2 or only 1
Exactly the simple explanation I was looking for.
tbh whenever you use that soundcloud clip to test speakers i think it sounds horrible on all of them i dont know if its maybe the clip itself
Super helpful review! Thanks for taking the time.
I have the 3 pack and currently running 450mbps. I can't seem to get past 120mbps on the points. Customer service has been anything, but superb, but haven't found a solution to why I am always capped at those speeds.
I've been told you'll get near your stated speed at your modem area, but each point only gives you 40-60%??
@@john-ze7eu that seems correct.
@@john-ze7eu I also added another router and back hauled it to the living room area and that has really boosted the speeds. It actually works like a charm.
Nice review I was looking for this review.
I just have some comments of you encountered also.
- when I'm listening to music (on my Nest WiFi it goes Google Music) and I receive a duo call. Either I accept the call on my phone or on the Nest wifi. My music will not continue after. I can either put the music direct from the Nest WiFi or direct from my phone and cast to the Nest WiFi.
The music will just not continue to play back after I stopped the call. Sometimes on my phone the music player in this case TH-cam Music. Just shut down.
Not sure of it's TH-cam Music problem?
Because I have similar problem when I'm on Duo on my phone the music stopped.
- Another issue I'm having. When ever I say play certain music from TH-cam Music. It will go and turn on my TV. My music choice is set now for Google Music on the Nest WiFi. But if I put it for TH-cam Music and ask for play music. It will turn on my TV and open TH-cam.
Whenever Google decide to ditch Google Music, than I will have a problem that I can not listen to music anymore from the Nest WiFi, as it will turn my TV and open TH-cam.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Hi Josh, where did you find that nest wifi personalized fit configurator? I looked all over the internet with no luck...
store.google.com/us/product/nest_wifi
@@6MonthsLater Ahh, thanks. I apparently was checking Canadian website and it seems a bit different.
Since you didn't bother to say anything about it, I guess I should assume that the points do NOT have any ethernet ports. I've got a TV box (and got to use that specific hardware) that can only connect with a wired connection, and modem and router in another room. I currently use adapters that signal over the power wires in my apartment to avoid having to run ethernet from the router to the TV box, but the network is not super fast, nor as reliable as I'd like. I don't really need a wi-fi mesh, but would consider Nest Wi-Fi if it would provide me with a few (or even one, but including a few seems only sensible as it adds very little cost) ethernet ports as well built into each "point" (i.e. the units typically placed far from the modem and router). Such a feature would also allow devices with poor built-in wifi but also an ethernet port, like an old laptop, to get a speed boost...
Anyone know what hardware I need? Is there anything on the market that I can connect to my existing wi-fi network and just get some ethernet ports..? What's such a device even called?
you can ping your neighbors wifi if you use your router as an antena and piggyback on their signal so no you do not really need a isp if you know what you are doing (and i said ping because its easy to check if you can do so and i know pinging is not actually how its done)
I have one of these. Ac2200 and you don't need a modem. The dude who installed my internet recommended this as a upgrade for the one they issue.
Can I add multiple points more than 2 ?
if that's not the case, can I turn routing off and use the set up as AP expansion ? For instance I will hook up 2 bases to my netgear router and place 4 points around
Yes, you can have more than 2 points
Port forwarding is still broken since the migration from Google Wi-Fi to Google home. Could you please validate this issue and make a video about it?
Can I split the networks 2.4 and 5G??
Love my nest google WiFi. My house is about 4,000 sq ft. And I have the 3 pack. It’s a bigger hole with 6 bedrooms and I noticed at one end of the house 2 bedrooms lose a little bit of signal. So think I might get 1-2 more points for that end and maybe the garage or back yard so I’m covered outside everywhere and helps having assistant/speaker also.
I wonder why Google hasn't created the Nest WiFi with a built in modem?
I'm assuming that compatibility with ISPs is the main reason not to.
Probably because all-in-ones are usually junk, they would have to make one with DSL and one to support cable, then you have different versions of the mentioned like docsis3.0 etc. This would also affect the size of the actual profile product and make it larger. Sounds like it would be a money sink for Google when everyone typically has cable/DSL modems provided from their ISPs.
@@tastedissbalut Not to mention if your ISP upgrades their network such as starting to offer FTTP or you change ISP from say a xDSL provider to a cable provider your google wifi/nest wifi would become useless unless it also bad a secondary WAN RJ45 port.
It's also more beneficial to be able to place the google/nest wifi in a more suitable spot and if necessary run a long ethernet cable to the location from your modem than it is to try and extend the phone line or coax cable to a suitable location to use an all in one solution
I have a bunch of smart devices at home and after my new neighbor moved with another bunch of smart devices my wifi started to collapse; I have to monitor the channels to look for a less busy one but that doesn’t last. So In this scenario I think wifi 6 is a need... what do you think?
There are a couple of things i don't like. You can't schedule uodates. I have had an update happen on my nest devices during peak. Bad timing. I don't like only being able to prioritize one device, and for a max of 4 hours. That you have to disable guest when connecting new chromecast devices, albeit once connected you can re-enable the guest.
Would you recommend this for £65 brand new ?
Speed is provided by the modem you have and internet speed plan you bought only modems work with the google nest router. Not a modem router combo
I’m getting the 300mbs I’m paying for with my plan just fine
Hi josh. Thanks for the review. Do you think they will release a wifi 6 model within the next 12 months?
I'd guess Google may within the next 18 if they decide to do a minor update at the 2 year mark with the product. That's just a hunch though. - Josh
The time when wifi 6 becomes relevant these routers won't be anymore.
Do the google nest wifi acts like a nornal google assistant also? U can also use it to control smart devices by voice assistant?
So here is my question. If I already have a router (not Google) can I by just points ?
no, you need the nest router
Can it pair or work as part of the entire Google mini home ecosystem?
with google fiber you do not need a modem. the ethernet from the fiber jack plugs directly into the back.
I think you only need Home to install, then you can use Google WiFi application and give full access there without providing access to all products in Google Home?
How does this compare to the tplink mesh or the net gear ones
quick question, am i able to use the google nest system with a non google branded router such as an asus router? can google nest act as a piggyback system?
I want this and think it’ll be great. My current wifi extender is complete trash and I want something to help my guest room receive signal to the tv there. The problem is that the tv is a close distance to the actual modem but not close enough to receive good signal. Would I be able to plug in the username & password on the tv to connect to the nest?? I want the thank to connect to the extender instead of the actual modem but bc there is no difference in login, it doesn’t work!!!
I may have missed something but if I’m going from room to room are all the points the same connection or do I have to connect to different points with different WiFi names? Hope this makes sense
They're all the same.
This was very thorough and informative.
Nice review Nial Horan