S&W M&P 5.7 One Big Flaw
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- So I finally got the all new S&W 5.7 to the range and found out it had one big flaw with me. I am going to try to fix that though, so stay tuned. Please like, share, and subscribe. Thank you.
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Excellent video. The narrow grip fits my hand perfect. I guess there's no one size fits all. Being too thin is always better than being too thick. You can always make the grip thicker, but you can't make it thinner.
Most shooters now are used of Glock ergonomics. AKA 2x4 for a pistol grip. This thing isn’t any thinner than some high end 1911s I’ve held
The thinness is one of the main reasons I want it.
Same. Just held one yesterday, but it honestly felt kinda weird in my hand.
Nothing I wouldn’t get used to, but palm swells would appeal to a larger amount of people if I had to guess
I have one. I like how thin it is. I'm 6 feet. Comfortable for larger hand
Same here! Thin, light, and FAST!
Damn, right
Okay I'm sold,Thanks
The skinny grip is the one reason I chose the P365 XL over the shield plus...
Great review, this is the next addition to my collection. Something you might try is fingerless gloves with padded palms. They will help fill the gap on the grip and being fingerless they do not affect the trigger feel. Again great honest review.
Agreed. I'm going to build up the grip with Talon grip tape. I have smaller hands and as a result it fits me better. Also, it's my most accurate firearm. My preferred use for it will be home defense, not carry.
One thing to be careful for: slide gets really hot. It will burn your thumb if not careful.
Might want to think about trying to slip a Pachmyar rubberized grip sleeve on it.
I put one on it about a week ago, been really busy this week hope to test it Sunday
I conceal carry a PSA Rock 5.7 so I'd probably carry that too. I like slim pistols. Just not happy with S&W right now.
Edit: the PSA Rock holds 24+1, even though the mag says 23. You don't even have to fight with the mag to get the 24th round in, and it has no issues seating or feeding properly.
and the grip feels way better than the M&P
the PSA ROCK feels far better in hand, but the trigger on the M&P is far superior.
I hated the M&P grip at first but after a few weeks it didn't bother me anymore.
My issue was that the mags couldn't be fully loaded without it binding up and dumping half our rounds out of the mag.
PSA makes a fantastic 57.
Bought one last Thursday, in part because my recently released from jail suppressor is compatible with 5.7, I don't have big hands so it fits me fine, granted I haven't shot it yet. Do wish I would've looked it over closer because in the crappy lighting in the sporting goods store I bought it at (surprisingly for less than what I could find it online) I would've noticed that the coating on the back of the slide is over coated or some debris was on the slide when it was applied, minor but lacking QA is lacking QA, my M&P 2.0 Compact OR had its own QA issue with a stripped screw in the optic cut cover but I took care of that myself, can't exactly fix the finish, so I might be sending it to Smith and Wesson to look over. Not a huge deal but $700 (after taxes) is $700. Wish I noticed it in the store, might've gotten a little discount out of it.
That ammo cost though, even online. Hopefully with the increased popularity, the NATO adoption and increased production, it'll go down a lot.
The Ruger is narrow also.
I found that the Ruger was much more comfortable and i didnt like the fact that the pin came out like the Pmr 30.
I dont like loose pieces in the field.
So on that note i picked up the Ruger for my Girl because the pmr 30 is unreliable.
She is not good at manipulating the pistol when there are problems.
Do a review with the grip sleeve.
I did
I put one in my hand and noticed the trigger guard was way too small for my large hand
Was about to say look's like TN/NC border area, I'm watching from Johnson City.
Is this something that could be fixed by adding an adapter onto the threads themselves?
Got mine a few weeks ago and finally got a chance to go to the range and mine wouldn't fire.the firing pin isnt striking the bullet at all.i just emailed s&w.
Hate to hear that but S&W does have good customer service
Just grabbed one today may do a vid on it, didn’t watch many reviews; just saw it and wanted it… will say a bit disappointed with the mag not seating issue and also had the follower stick quite a bit at first. Mags definitely need rounds through them to work properly
The grip narrowness is to accommodate the longer rilfe-shaped round. If it had a wider grip you wouldn't be able to get your hands around the grip to reach the trigger. This is the case in every 5.7 pistol and has been known for decades. 🤷
Not true! I put on a hogue grip that increased the width of the pistol and filled in my palms. I shoot this pistol way more accurately now. My FN Fiveseven is also quiet a bit wider than the S&W.
@@gearrunner Great! For the 90% of girl sized hand havers that's not really necessary.
Palmetto State Armory 5.7 "Rock" for the win! Now $399 for just the pistol, and $599 with a awesome soft case and 10 mags!
hardly any muzzle jump niceee
It’s very flat shooting
The FN and Rock 5.7 both feel MUCH better in the hand with the palmswell and thumb relief area.
The S&W feels like a thin board
In your opinion
You absolutely right M&p 5.7 is one flat ass Slim handle gun 🚮
feels like a snow ski, but after a couple weeks it starts to feel like a normal gun.
I got the same weapon and I have a large hand but I get a pretty good group with it I don't think it's the narrow grip it might be your anticipated the wiggle just be chill with it
@9"04 you need a better zero or a Holosun
Ruger 5.7 ALL DAY! 😊
I have them both the FN and M&P. I have had a failure to feed after 2 rounds in the smith & Wesson. The magazine needs a recall it sucks so far idk maybe it’s just mine but I’m using fn ammunition could take the issue
Which one is heavier ? I’m more worried about the weight before I purchase my dad had the Fn 5.7 for 10 years now and I’ll shot it plenty of times. But I just can’t stand the fact of how bulky it is.
Apparently, you and I have man hands and most others don't? Lol I went with the 22 Mag for that exact reason!!! Sadly, the 22 Mag has been a BIG let down. Mag deformed, round exploded, dropped mag, of course it was the ONE TIME my lady shot it too Haha threw powder in her face, she was ok!! Just freaked out Lol wanted the 5.7 but the grip is WAY too small for me, I'm just a big handed, footed guy. 6 feet, 140 Lol
Which one is heavier ? The Fn or Mp ?
Haha big hand small hat❤
You don't need a form to move silencers across state lines. The Form 5320.20 doesn't even have an option for silencers.
A low and left on a right hand shooter is a prime indicator your grip isn’t holding the gun securely in my experience
That wasn’t the case here. I have a video where I put a grip sleeve on it and it fixed the issue
@@gearrunner my point was your original grip was too thin. I own this and it did the exact same thing until I put a sleeve
I'm using it as a service weapon doing security
Looks like a good purse gun👱🏻♀️👜
The Hogue G17 grip sleeves should fit it, that's what I have on my Ruger57
What’s recool?
Ask your mom!
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narrow just means dual wield
PSA has 50 rounds for $31 and pick up that brass!!!!
I’ve got totes full of brass and I don’t reload so I don’t pick it up anymore
@@gearrunner ah ha! What about reselling it? Take care brother!
I have a Ruger 57 and I do care. Daily it’s flat enough. I am able to carry it inside the pants without a problem I have to readjust some time for the grip itself but it’s fine to carry. I purchased two Smith & Wesson 57 and both had to go back to the factory. They wouldn’t eject the round properly and the magazine well would not take the magazine properly.
There are literally people who are going out of their way to buy this pistol for conceal and carry
@@dillonbahr4723 Garand Thumb proved this is one of the worst rounds for defense that there is.
"I hate how flat and easily concealed this firearm is!" .... Ooookkay.
"Most people are not going to conceal this gun!"..... Whut?
"I hate the lack of palm swells!"... so put a grip sleeve on it?
You do realize the Glock 43X is probably the most sold pistol right? There’s a reason for that. It’s short and comfortable to conceal. MOST people will not use this pistol for ccw. Will someone? Probably, but not most!
@@gearrunner Okay, so let me make sure I understand your line of reasoning, here.
1. The Glock 43X is a popular CCW and it is short.
2. Therefore it is a popular CCW because it is short.
3. Therefore all weapons for CCW must be short.
4. The MP 57 is long.
5. Therefore it is inappropriate for CCW and few people will use it that way.
It's not my intent to be sarcastic here. I'm trying to show you how it looks, from my perspective, a bit like you are jumping to conclusions.
Personally, I suspect that this pistol might (not necessarily will, but might) catch on very well with women. Women have a great deal of difficulty finding carry solutions that adapt to the way they prefer to dress... and their greatest challenge is not finding guns that are short enough, but guns that are narrow enough.
Because of this, one very popular CCW for women is the MP 9ez, a very slender single stack 9mm, single action, shrouded hammer, etc... very much like this gun in many ways. This model appears to double down on many of the things women like about the 9ez... narrow, friendly to small hands, easily operated slide, very light.
To this, it adds higher capacity, and the very female-friendly 5.7 cartridge, which cuts recoil quite a bit. On top of that, it's gas-operated, further reducing recoil. Now, it's easy for large men to make sarcastic remarks about "taming the recoil of the mighty 9mm", and that probably seems fair... to them. But recoil becomes more of a problem, not only if you are less strong, but also if you are lighter, and also if your hands are smaller. Certainly, 9mm recoil isn't going to beat up even a small woman, but it's not about resilience. It's about getting back on target fast for additional accurate fire.
Right now, women can't really carry 5.7 pistols very well, because, despite the small size of the cartridge, all offerings up to this point have been big guns made for big hands. In other words, the fact that this weapon is too small for you to grip it comfortably is probably the major selling point, rather than a flaw.
Ruger Allday Everyday.
That's a "big flaw"? 😆
That's not really a flaw, more like your personal preference! One size doesn't fit all when it comes to firearms! (Click Bait)
Well it’s a flaw to me, and it’s my video. If you don’t think it’s a flaw make your own video stating how great the pistol is!
I don't like clickbait channels.
Hounest outlaw has large hands, with no issue. Maybe it's just you
Maybe it is, I’m probably the only person on the planet that the grip doesn’t fit. 🤷🏻♂️
@@gearrunner Maybe it's the hype of the gun. Reviewers might just be looking through rose colored glasses . I'll be picking one up in a week, and i have medium small hands ✋ 🙃
@@603carry You never know. The grip is very wide and narrow. I hope to do another review tomorrow with the hogue grip sleeve on it.
@@gearrunner I stumbled upon you looking up 5.7 reviews. My 5 year old boy heard your voice and said (He has a tough voice) lol. I'll sub and keep up with your content. Lord knows gun guy's need all the support they can get on TH-cam.
@@603carry thank you very much, I appreciate it. Tell your son thank you as well.
Didn't even watch the video, mine is a POS wish I'd never bought it.
No recoil what a crappie video nothing wrong with it
I have to say that I haven't heard so much complaining in one video for a very long time. I won't be watching any more videos here because of the constant complaining. Also, low and left is the shooter. Not the firearm. Now, let the replies start rolling in. 😂
Holy crap, how will I ever sleep tonight. Im asking my Dr for some Ambien. I may never get over you actually leaving a comment complaining about me complaining on a video. Talk about hypocritical! But fyi I did put a hogue grip sleeve on it and it stopped the low left issue. Must have not been the shooter. Now leave another comment complaining about how you were wrong! 😂
This is exactly why no one likes you. I wasn't complaining. I was leaving some honest feedback based on an observation. But, like all people with an ego you just can't take some constructive criticism. It was the shooter until you put a sleeve on it. It sure wasn't the gun, was it? Have a good day. I will because I won't have to put up with an ego any longer. I would mention one other thing I observed while you were shooting but you would cry about that too. Thanks for the laugh. You're definitely the highlight of my day. Good luck and I wish you all the best in life.
The “most people wont concealed carry a pistol this size” gave me a good chuckle.
Yeah we know he's all full of shit for a TH-cam video
I like the narrowness, I'm 140 pounds, very thin, and this gun is currently my normal conceal carry.
What holster?
Any attachments? And what holster if so?
Holster?
Black rhino concealment
Nothing wrong with the grip on that pistol. You may not like it, but that's nothing more than personal preference. I think it's the best of the recent offerings in 5.7x28mm semiautomatic pistols.
I mean this video is all my opinion. I can’t give anyone else’s opinion because I don’t know you all.
PSA ROCK has far superior grip
@bustabass9025 thats the whole point of this video. He is sharing an opinion based on personal preference. You suck 😂
excellent gun for those of us who want a self defense gun but are sensitive to recoil, I must agree definitely the best 5.7 on the market
You just.
Got to watch out for the overpenetration, Like a child in the background? = Will result in. those pesky county, state, and federal prosecutors Getting involved...😊
First, you do not need ATF approval to transport silencers across state lines. You need ATF approval to transport machine guns and SBRs, but not silencers. See ATF Form 5320.20 and the ATF's FAQ on interstate transport.
Second, the 90% of grips too large for my hands drives me crazy. Stock AR-15 grips are literally the only AR grips not uncomfortably large for my hands. Some of us search high and low, the world over for small grips. You can glue padding to the sides to fill up your sasquatch hands. Please let us enjoy the rare occasion when a manufacturer comes with a grip size other than gigantic.
Great video. Much appreciated!
Agreed. Fixing a too small grip is simple compared to the opposite.
Nice review. I'm sure you will get the grip sorted out. On a funny side note, I do think I know a guy that will probably edc one if he gets it: He used to carry a .50 DE, crossdraw IWB w/a holster he rigged up from a nylon shoulder holster. Rock on! 🤣🤣🤣
Now that’s a huge edc
I own the original FN 57 and have always liked it. I haven’t shot this new Smith & Wesson, but I did handle it at the store. I have medium-size hands and my feeling on the grip was just like yours. The trigger seems phenomenal but the grip just feels weird in my hand. We’ll see how it feels when I shoot it. Thank you very much for the video.
You are very welcome, thank you for watching. I agree it does feel pretty weird. I just got my Hogue grip in yesterday and put it on so we will see if that helps. I do like my original FN but I would like to have the new generation one as well.
@@gearrunner yeah, I would like to have a new generation FN as well. Just waiting for one to come in to my local shop. Looking forward to the follow up on the Smith and Wesson.
Are suppressors illegal in the state you’re visiting? If not then you can bring your suppressors across state lines without any paperwork. It’s SBR’s that require a form 5320.20
I thought any class 3 had to have paper work to cross state lines
@@gearrunner suppressors and AOW’s are exempt from the form 5320.20 requirement. As long as they are legal in the state your are traveling to you are good to go.
www.silencershop.com/blog/post/traveling-with-a-suppressor
@@drewhenderson13 thank you, I did not know that
Suppressors are legal in TN and NC. I use to live there and travel to Johnson City every weekend so I know
You can bring Suppressors out of state without prior notification to ATF. However, you cannot bring the SBRs or SBS out of state without prior ATF notification
I was thinking all class 3 items were under the same laws. Thank you for letting me know.
@@gearrunner yeah, i just found this out like a month ago. I originally thought like you did.
Free men dont ask permission
That dumb as shit. You already paid the extortion fee
Jimmy Johns has freaky-fast delivery
That thing is so flat!!! Wow! Would be great if it got enough popularity for someone like icarus to do a grip module for it.
That would be awesome if they would make a grip for it. I did order the slide on grip so we will revisit it when that comes in.
There's a reason why most 5.7 gun have adjustable sights. Different bullet weight with shoot drastically different. Low, high, to the left. It's not like 9mm where different weights aren't thaaat much, Still combat accurate
Grip sleeve, problem solved, im excited to try one, I’m thinking it would be fun, problem I see is 5.7 ammo kinda pricey
I think hes just punching the trigger. The gun is top of the line and price is great.
I fixed the issue with a grip sleeve. So I don’t think it was my trigger control.
Biden & Harris’s Folly = 26AUG2021
Don’t be like me n try too dismember this wit the clip loaded, 😅 u will definitely be reminded when you pull the trigger to release the slide, almost lost my palm , but nun more then a Graz n a nice pinch out my pointer finger, I was distracted an shouldn’t have been handling it wit out my full attention cuz shit got real fast
Yea, that definitely could have went way worse. Glad you are ok
23 shots in a pistol without extension
How does the Hogue grip on it feel, ergonomically without shooting it? This was a great video, I’m getting ready to buy one but after what you said, not without fondling it first :)😮 thank you!
Please put your NEW sleave on the grip and give us another video; if you notice a difference in your accuracy??? Thanks😉👍🇺🇸
I put the sleeve on yesterday. I’m hoping to make it back to my range one day this week.
@@gearrunner Excellent, look forward to your update video👍🇺🇸
@@cccalifornia7206 hopefully next week
Im the rambo guy who will try to conceal carry this🤣🤣🤣 1:31
I think your missing cause you got your arms fully locked out while your firing.
Go check out the video where I add a grip sleeve. That wasn’t it
Looks like it has great mechanical accuracy.
Im 6ft 0.4in I weigh 134 and it fits my hand like a glove.
They should make it a quad stack mag if it's not wide enough
I really want to get an M&P 5.7 to try my 5.56 suppressor on. Since the threaded barrel doesn’t move then it should be able to handle the weight of a rifle can.
I would think so as well
my 5.56 can works on mine little front heavy
5.7x28 doesn't require a booster assembly
@@virtuaguyverify not on this barrel is fixed
I like it aesthetically and the "gas system" is great. However the slide bite I'd get based on the thickness of my hands prevents me from purchasing it.
I haven’t had any slide bite yet but my hands are pretty skinny
PSA has 150 round box of Fiocchi 5.7 for $75 ...50 cents a round.
No such thing as ZERO recoil.
So you don’t like it because it’s too thin? You are the only gun reviewer in the world that has ever complained about that issue.
Maybe it’s because a lot of the other ones got them for free and I paid for mine so I can talk about all the issues I have with it
If you are used to holding a 2x4 grip aka full-size glock I guess this would feel too thin. It reminds me of some of the higher end 1911s I’ve fired that have thinner scales.
the grip is just poorly designed.
Hold a PSA ROCK in your hand for comparison.
No such thing as NO recoil.
Sounds like tubby hands are the problem, not the thin grip.
Interesting very interesting.
Got my Hogue grip sleeve in yesterday, so we will re visit it soon
A comparison exit speed of the bullet is needed vs ruger or fn due to gas operated
How about "Duct Tape"?
It would take about 4.6 seconds to end your suffering about the very, very thin grip and your big , big meaty hands.
Electrician tape would work too, and the color would blend in with the gun's Finnish!
The grip thing just sounds like a personal issue. The gun design itself seems incredible, and I hope it gets torture tested to see if locking bolt/gas slide is reliable for handguns
Beretta has been making the locking barrel for years I don't know if they make a gas operated handgun.
@@butplug-s1k Beretta? Who said anything about Beretta??
@@Codeman785 Just saying Beretta has used that system for years it's a proven design. The locking barrel is nothing new as I said I don't know about gas operated.
@@butplug-s1k well this is a video about s&w 5.7.............
@@Codeman785 So you just want to argue talking about a locking barrel in a hand gun has nothing to do with the fact that the video is about the 5.7 so have a nice evening and consider our conversation over with.👍
So, you're saying operator error is the main problem? 😇
Degrease it and break out the two part epoxy and make your own custom grips. You can thicken it and sand or rasp it to shape. Sleeves shift, not a fan.
My biggest complaint is the price of the ammo. I can shoot a .308 for the same price. And the ammo is a bitch to reload
BTW, I had a problem seating the mag the first time, too. Then I seated the magazine in a manly fashion. Manly, I say. Manly.
If you carry a glock 19 then you can carry the m$p5.7, theres only like halve an inch that the 5.7 is longer but because its skinnier it fits perfectly on my lap. I always carry the 5.7
I wear xl gloves don't have long fingers just thick but this grip fits me just right you look like you got much longer fingers an with the lack of palm swell might be over compensating by not putting as much finger in the trigger your shot pattern looks to me as if your trigger finger is pushing the gun just a hair when you pull the trigger. Try putting alittle more of your finger through the trigger well. Say if your using the tip of your finger now try it with it right before the crook or the finger see if it pulls it back to the right alittle. I know when your use to a certain grip set up like fatty palm swels an a beefy grip an you drastically switch up to how narrow that mp 57 it can be the smallest things that can throw you off but yeah this thing is byfar my favorite handling gun flat shooting at range accurate as hell no recoil an the mag I found is easier on everything to load with the slide back too I don't like having to slap it in so hard.
Who wants a fat grip handle ? It’s made to carry. It’s supposed to be a thin profile. Definitely A good truck or home defense gun💪🏼
Nothing against S&W at all, however, I do like my Ruger 5.7. What I don't like is the price for 5.7 ammo!
Easy fix put a hogue slip on grip just like I did on my M&P .22 mag that is basically the same frame.
It appears Round clean up is easy,looks like they will land in your back yard no matter where your range is…😂
Hogue rubber grip sleeve to the rescue. I think that will fix your grip issue.
I ordered one a couple days ago. I’ll do a video when it gets in.
@@gearrunner what grip did u order?
@@turbobill1747 just the hogue grip sleeve. I wanted to do the video today as it was 81 here today but I bought something big today so it will have to wait until later
@@gearrunner what number hogue grip?
@@gearrunner I just got the s&w 5.7 ,agree with u abt grip
Make a rubber grip sleeve! Maybe you can sell them so you can use the money to buy ammo ¢.50-$1.00 a round.
I’m in North Carolina I’m tryna find a good range
The magazine loading and mag seating gets better after about 300 rounds.
maybe you're just a losey shot...............LOL just playing first time I watched your stuff and I have to ask where you are looks like western NC, eastern Tenn. just shooting in the yard . too cool
Western NC is correct 👍
how did you get the threaded barrel protector off mines won’t come off it’s so tight …what should I do ?
Mine wasn’t that tight, it came right off
@@gearrunner yea I couldn’t get it off not sure how to either 🤦🏻♂️ about to use a 🔧
mine won't even stay on the gun lol
@@Hawtload lol 😂 do you have a instagram account I can show you how to keep it on or take it off
@@Hawtload use lock tight only a little bit
Narrow allows you to dominate the gun. Some grip tape would help certainly.
I mean with how awkward as that is, how hard would it of been to adopt side panels or something to shape it more. That trigger legit close to a Rival? I have a rival and haven't shot anything with a trigger close to it
If I’m not mistaken it’s a internal sao trigger which is very light and smooth.
Because already so wide in the handle your just a giant bro 😂
Have you had trouble with mag catching on the mag release when seating the mag ? I give it a nice push and it goes right in , but it’s definitely catching on the inside of the gun, catching on the mag release button
I have had a few issues with inserting magazines. It’s hit or miss though. Sometimes they go right in and sometimes I have to slam them to get them in.
I like the fact that you dont need a booster for a suppressor on this, definitely unique
I do like that and it’s crazy how quiet it is suppressed
Curious if you’ve noticed any accuracy issues when suppressing this gun? Since it looks like the can mounts to that external tube rather than the barrel itself, I’m curious how that affects consistency of POI shift?
@@mikefranklin54 i don't personally have one
@@gearrunner
Is that even with supersonic ammo?
I’ve got the Mask HD as well, and I’m probably gonna buy this particular 5.7 on Monday.
Your 1 problem with this Gun is one of the main reasons I bought one.