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I’m very old school when it comes to music, I listen to alot of vinyl and CDs. That’s real music. I love alot of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s. I especially love the 80s, for the past month I’ve been buying 45s from the 80s of my liking
My main source of listening is vinyl, I have a cd of acdc highway to hell, just purchased the 50th anniversary on vinyl and the sound is phenomenal. I'm not much into streaming perfer vinyl
I have Apple and another problem with them is you can go to a particular artist (ex most recently Y&T) and click on an album and the songs are no longer available. There are many other bands and albums that just disappear. Ridiculous
Music hasn't mattered to most people in 25 years. I see no difference from the Napster days to todays streaming. I lived it, I was manager of a cd store for 15 years ( from 1992 till the company going bankrupt in 2006). By 2003, we would come in everyday, wondering when the company was gonna fold. We could compete with BestBuy / Circuit City selling cds almost at cost, but we couldnt compete with free. I can rarely " talk music" with anyone outside my circle. I used to find most people had a working knowledge of music. Whether it was an old BonJovi song, or the latest top 40. Circa 2001, the average citizen lost all music knowledge, and most that are into it, like the Taylor Swift pop stuff. Thank God for the vinyl revival, I can buy physical product. As far as movies, DVDs are on the way out. I don't know what I'll do, once they're completely gone
Some interesting points, for sure. I think there was always a difference between disposable music listeners (people who just put on the radio) and serious listeners, streaming just gives more people access to it. I also think streamers not paying artists well is totally fair, but maybe a little overblown. I think people forget just how many bands and artists were signed to major labels pre-streaming that scraped a living, if that. The industry has always exploited artists. I'm the same as you, if I stream an artist that I end up loving, I'll either buy the album, go to a show, or buy merch to support them in some way. Streaming has its issues, but personally, I think it has been really, really good for underground artists. When I research older bands, a common theme is how they struggled to find records for the kind of music they liked growing up. Streaming removes that. It lets indie artists who would never have a commercial breakthrough find an audience of people who really connect with their music and inspire other people to make similar stuff and I think that's invaluable.
You make a good point. There was only a tiny percentage of bands pre-streaming that made money, 99% ended up saddled with having to pay back huge record company advances. Ok so bands dont make money now, but I know bands that can now play festivals & pull crowds of 500 on tours & make a living thanks to the exposure spotify gives them. I could now make a song on my phone get it up on Spotify in a matter of hours & in theory have a worldwide audience..now whether anyone chooses to listen or not is another matter, but at least the record company gatekeepers are now dead. Although the majot companies have now found ways to exploit Spotify.
You say streaming music has ruined music. But you also say you've found a lot of exciting music through streaming. You say you use streaming in the garden or when your driving...to be honest what you have demonstrated is a fantastic way of balancing the enjoyment of streaming music with physical product. Youve also noted that it gives young bands a fantastic opportunity to release music to a larger audience, where history shows 20 years ago they would have had to be spotted by A&R, put themselves into massive debt funding recording, getting the records pressed, paid huge sums for marketing in the vain hope that they are one of the tiny percentage that may make a fraction of their advance back. Ironically I find this video an excellent advert as to how streaming & physical product can existing in harmony, for the cost of £11.00 a month..whereas I was blind buying CD sfor £15.99 a pop back in 1992! I guess music is a disposable product..but only if you choose to make it a disposal product. Like yourself I use both streaming & physical product. 🙂 But a thought provoking video.
It can definitely be a useful tool, but it’s also true that it’s made music very disposable. There’s no investment in the music listening experience with streaming. It’s something that a vast majority of people just have on in the background of life.
I hear ya, I'm all about physical media! Records, cassettes & CD's forever! I KNOW it's "convenient," & I use Bluetooth myself (rarely) for the same reason! But I'd rather OWN my music! Great vid bud.
My biggest beef with streaming is there’s a lot of great new artists that only release on streaming services and not a physical copy and I’m old school and like an actual CD or album.
I'd like to propose a theory in addition to your points. Not disagreeing with your points, but there might be another factor you hadn't considered. When an entire album cost the same price as one month of streaming it is incredibly easy to justify the expense of the streaming service. I can't speak for anyone else but growing up I could afford maybe one new album a month if I was lucky. We were poor. Usually it was a tape from kmart. CDs were usually out of reach price wise. When all I could afford was one album for the month it was on repeat for at least a month. I rarely do that anymore. When one of my very favorite artists releases a new album I might put it on repeat for a week on streaming while I wait for my physical copy to arrive. I'll spin my physical copy a few times a year, but after that I only listen if it comes up on my favorites playlist. Streaming ruined that experience of only having limited access to music, and in the end I think I'm ok with it because the benefits outweigh the down sides. But I am still nostalgic for the days of old when a new record, tape or CD was more coveted than they are now.
Besides reviewing music on TH-cam. No streaming for me. I started back to collecting CDs last summer. Over the last year I've averaged buying a 100 CDs a month from Goodwill to rebuild my collection. I'm currently at 1535 CDs. And that goes for my audio equipment as well. I've been able to find some good early 80's to mid 90's receivers, amps, CD players and speakers for really good prices.
In late ‘99 I did a speech in college on what I thought Napster would do to the music industry. I thought it would absolutely destroy it. I was debating people who wanted it for free. We saw how that turned it. The music business is so much better now, right? It’s dead and that was the start of it. They socialized the music industry and now it’s dead. My taste is 60s-80s, but at least in the 90s there were scenes. “Oh you just have to look for the great bands?” Really? I never had to “look” for Prince, David Bowie, Van Halen, Black Sabbath, The Cars, etc. Music is so over saturated now, anybody with a computer can create and flood the market, talented or not. The argument will be made “it’s all subjective” but just ask yourself if we’re better off pre Napster or post?
Im 27 and use streaming and I feel none of these critiques apply to me. I like to listen to cohesive projects start to finish. I definitely have nostalgic memories when I listen to certain albums of where I was when I first heard it or played it a lot. Streaming opens doors for so many artists that would have been overlooked. No longer do you have to go through the machine to be heard. If you make great music and share it online, people can hear it I do agree that these companies are greedy and physical media is great because it can never be taken away. That's about it, but appreciate hearing your perspective✌️
I do think a lot of people treat music as disposable, but I think people did that back in the day too. But some people, like me and you are super passionate and invested in our music
The absolute worst part about streaming is that it doesnt compensate the artists fairly. This has lead to many up-and-coming musicians needing to support themselves with day jobs, which in turn, takes a hit to their musical output.
Definitely! And it also causes bands to increase prices for concerts and go on tour for multiple years, which leads to 4-5 year gaps between albums. It’s why it’s hard for a lot of bands to keep their creative momentum.
I also will only stream to hear an album to see if anything else besides the released single is any good. If so I go out and buy the physical album. I prefer vinyl records, but if the CD is the only choice , it better not cost more than $13.99. A few of my favorite artists in the last 5 or so years are only releasing on streaming or digital downloading services and it makes me lose interest in them. They are pushing longtime fans away in my opinion.
Nailed it!! Streaming is a tool for me for the exact reason you mentioned, if I'm gonna drop $X.XX on an album I want to make sure I like at least 80% of it, no album is perfect. Your other point, easy, Amen. I'm going to be 60 this year and sometimes trying to explain to new people in the hobby or even just music fans how different the process, routine and anticipation was in the "good ole' days", compared to now, falls flat. I've loved music since I was tall enough to flip the top open on my parents console stereo system and remember fondly how excited I was to buy my first album at around 10, lol. What stands out to me is that you would hear a single on the radio, start to get hyped about the band/artist, keep an eye on when it was going to be released, planned your trip to the record store to pick it up with your friends, probably stopped for some pizza afterwards, then pulled the shrink, vinyl to platter, needle drop and liner notes in hand, you just sat back and enjoyed. I know times change, and that's not always a bad thing, but a lot of times I feel we're loosing some of those "moments" for the sake of progress. Music is different things to different people, to some it is just background noise, a distraction while working, filler if you will, so it's hard to judge, hell, I even know some people who just don't like music and I can't wrap my head around that at all. Anyway if you need another angry old man screaming at the clouds to keep you company on the front lawn, just hit me up ;)
Streaming services make available to me music I would never buy. I've also never noticed a big difference in quality in sound on streaming than physical, but I have good quality Bose speakers. That being said, I still want to collect albums but inflation has lead to to stream albums I would normally get on vinyl such as the new Maggie Rogers album is still going for $29.99. Claire is going for $27.99 and Chappell Roan is going for $32.99. I would pay $20 but not these prices so I'm streaming until the prices come down. Streaming also gives artists expose so people can get to their live shows. Chappell Roan might not make much on streaming but people are attending her shows in droves. Anyway, mixed reviews here.
Started buying records in the seventies, then cds, then Spotify. No problem. I want to be emotionally attached to music, not to the way I am listening it. As for Spotify sounding worse than physical releases, that is just audiophile paranoia.
Pandora was the first streamer followed by Slacker than Spotify. Slacker innovated off line caching on phones or portable players. Tidal innovated providing lossless and high resolution. But I listen to cds and lps especially since multidisc vintage players being readily available on 2nd hand sources
I'm 80% vinyl records 10% cd's 10% streaming!!!! I only use streaming for walking and driving. I work from home so always spinning something. I will always love the physical part of collecting music
“So music has changed a lot over the last twenty five years” 😂😂😂 dude that was awesome to see the process, I want to make videos myself but feel nervous and weird about it and that’s exactly how I am when I try but you nail it in the end man gives me hope
I hate being restricted on what I can listen to by some corporate overlords. Too many times I've had some of my favorite media removed from a service and feels terrible. Like I go to watch an old youtube cover and it's been removed, or I'm midway through Star Trek Voyager and netflix drops the content, or spotify just doesn't have my favorite album by Mos Def (the Ecstatic). I've realized over the years that you can't expect any of these entities to act in your best interest. They are just going to try and make a buck no matter what.
In the 70's I started with vinyl and I think my last album purchased was in 1988, then on to CD's. I toyed a bit with Napster when they started, but kept buying CD's. I did a bit of streaming but then you realize how bad the quality was, so I started buying tons of FLAC files and listened through a FiiO X5 player, and now back fully into vinyl the past 3 years. Oh by the way, your video ends with a few dozen cuts of you doing edits and retakes of what you wanted to say!! Cheers
My family (kids included) have always been physical format inside the home and streaming outside the home. Over the air radio stations blow so if I wasn’t able to stream in the car I’d go crazy.
Hey Nick ! there will be a million opinions on this and probably all valid. Without streaming there is no way i would have been aware of all the artists and genres I presently listen to. I would never have purchased some of the physical media i own without streaming. Streaming isn't the problem, it's about the consumer and how they use it. I think serious music lovers are not the problem. They will always buy music they love and streaming is there gateway to discovery.
For my serious listening sessions, I use CD, vinyl, or hi res digital download. That said, I really enjoy streaming for both casual (background) listening and especially new music discovery (as you pointed out as well in the video).
Spotify says they’ve got. Every music artist no they don’t as well as any other music service plus with the permeium version of Spotify you have to pay for your music
Bottom line, you own nothing with streaming. Monthly fees can and will continue to climb. If there is a beef between a musician and streaming they might drop off of streaming altogether.
The convenience is nice. No more putting 8 AA batteries in my portable cd player to go to the gym 😂 Even tho the mp3 player initially fixed that. Plus the ability to listen to new bands.. that’s nice. However, I think streaming has done two things that have been devastating to music: one, it’s ruined the profitability of the “album”. Now artists have to charge me $350 to see them live lol. The album just doesn’t make the same amount of money anymore. And I see less work put into the construction of albums at times. Second, I think the connection between streaming and the listener is totally lifeless compared to from vinyl or cd or whatever media. I can listen to the same album on cd… then stream it… and I have two entirely different “feelings”. There’s no connection to the robotic feel of the stream service. And I use tidal. That’s the biggest issue for me. The connection!
Every person/scenario is different. Streaming is amazing if I want music on while I'm doing something else. If I want to listen critically I'll listen to a hard copy with my eyes closed. Just be happy it's an option. Why do people try and find a struggle in everything in this world. Don't like streaming,?don't do it. If this is what you are worried about then celebrate the fact that you don't have significant worries in your world. Millennials find millennial problems.
Definitely gone back to CD and Records ( Don't call it vynl). That's a big peeve for me. Anyway yes like you in my car it's Spotify ( Since new cars removed CD), or I wouldn't stream at all. Streaming does help to discover Records that otherwise are never heard on radio these days, thanks to Simon Cowell
Maintaining and purchasing a good turntable and vinyls is too expensive. I dont stream but play downloaded flac files on my pc and purchase itunes (not apple music) tracks that I have backed up in diferent hard drives. I have hundreds of itunes albums since I bought my first ipad in 2011.
For a lot of people including myself I am thankful for the streaming services When a new release comes out I can listen to it on Apple Music and if I like it I buy it on vinyl or CD Saves me from blind buys! Don’t you say you will stream it on your show???? I don’t think you’re clickbait title is true as millions of people are still buying physical copies of music
Like I said in the video, streaming can be a useful tool (and one that I’m not getting rid of anytime soon, if ever), but overall I still think it’s done way more damage to music. Yes there are a lot of people that buy physical music, but it’s still a small percentage of music sold each year.
sorry but I will be the contrarian , I stream a lot , and I still buy hard copies of something I really enjoy .., streaming has opened music again to new generations , and exposed many artists many would never of heard of .., streaming is basically the new tape trading .., in a way streaming has saved music from a sure death that was on the horizon 15 years ago !!!
I have 1300 vinyl records and over 2000 CDs. I have a very nice stereo system. I do not own a car. I have absolutely no reason to stream anything. Plus, they screw the musicians.
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I'm a Physical Media man. I've never streamed... And will always buy my music on CDs..
I’m very old school when it comes to music, I listen to alot of vinyl and CDs. That’s real music. I love alot of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s. I especially love the 80s, for the past month I’ve been buying 45s from the 80s of my liking
My main source of listening is vinyl, I have a cd of acdc highway to hell, just purchased the 50th anniversary on vinyl and the sound is phenomenal. I'm not much into streaming perfer vinyl
I have Apple and another problem with them is you can go to a particular artist (ex most recently Y&T) and click on an album and the songs are no longer available. There are many other bands and albums that just disappear. Ridiculous
If that contract doesn't get renewed, the company won't carry it.
@@DorianPaige00 ya I get that but in some cases there just select songs that disappear or not playable and the rest of the album is 🤪
Music hasn't mattered to most people in 25 years. I see no difference from the Napster days to todays streaming. I lived it, I was manager of a cd store for 15 years ( from 1992 till the company going bankrupt in 2006). By 2003, we would come in everyday, wondering when the company was gonna fold. We could compete with BestBuy / Circuit City selling cds almost at cost, but we couldnt compete with free. I can rarely " talk music" with anyone outside my circle. I used to find most people had a working knowledge of music. Whether it was an old BonJovi song, or the latest top 40. Circa 2001, the average citizen lost all music knowledge, and most that are into it, like the Taylor Swift pop stuff. Thank God for the vinyl revival, I can buy physical product. As far as movies, DVDs are on the way out. I don't know what I'll do, once they're completely gone
Some interesting points, for sure. I think there was always a difference between disposable music listeners (people who just put on the radio) and serious listeners, streaming just gives more people access to it. I also think streamers not paying artists well is totally fair, but maybe a little overblown. I think people forget just how many bands and artists were signed to major labels pre-streaming that scraped a living, if that. The industry has always exploited artists. I'm the same as you, if I stream an artist that I end up loving, I'll either buy the album, go to a show, or buy merch to support them in some way.
Streaming has its issues, but personally, I think it has been really, really good for underground artists. When I research older bands, a common theme is how they struggled to find records for the kind of music they liked growing up. Streaming removes that. It lets indie artists who would never have a commercial breakthrough find an audience of people who really connect with their music and inspire other people to make similar stuff and I think that's invaluable.
You make a good point. There was only a tiny percentage of bands pre-streaming that made money, 99% ended up saddled with having to pay back huge record company advances. Ok so bands dont make money now, but I know bands that can now play festivals & pull crowds of 500 on tours & make a living thanks to the exposure spotify gives them. I could now make a song on my phone get it up on Spotify in a matter of hours & in theory have a worldwide audience..now whether anyone chooses to listen or not is another matter, but at least the record company gatekeepers are now dead. Although the majot companies have now found ways to exploit Spotify.
disposable is the perfect word for it. considering picking up a CD player because there's some music I cant find on streaming or Vinyl
A blu ray player may also suffice for that 🎶
You say streaming music has ruined music. But you also say you've found a lot of exciting music through streaming. You say you use streaming in the garden or when your driving...to be honest what you have demonstrated is a fantastic way of balancing the enjoyment of streaming music with physical product. Youve also noted that it gives young bands a fantastic opportunity to release music to a larger audience, where history shows 20 years ago they would have had to be spotted by A&R, put themselves into massive debt funding recording, getting the records pressed, paid huge sums for marketing in the vain hope that they are one of the tiny percentage that may make a fraction of their advance back. Ironically I find this video an excellent advert as to how streaming & physical product can existing in harmony, for the cost of £11.00 a month..whereas I was blind buying CD sfor £15.99 a pop back in 1992! I guess music is a disposable product..but only if you choose to make it a disposal product. Like yourself I use both streaming & physical product. 🙂 But a thought provoking video.
It can definitely be a useful tool, but it’s also true that it’s made music very disposable. There’s no investment in the music listening experience with streaming. It’s something that a vast majority of people just have on in the background of life.
Love the "bloopers" at the end Nick! 😂
I hear ya, I'm all about physical media! Records, cassettes & CD's forever! I KNOW it's "convenient," & I use Bluetooth myself (rarely) for the same reason! But I'd rather OWN my music! Great vid bud.
My biggest beef with streaming is there’s a lot of great new artists that only release on streaming services and not a physical copy and I’m old school and like an actual CD or album.
I follow a few artists that do that. I end up buying their music on Amazon and then record it to cassette.
I'd like to propose a theory in addition to your points. Not disagreeing with your points, but there might be another factor you hadn't considered. When an entire album cost the same price as one month of streaming it is incredibly easy to justify the expense of the streaming service. I can't speak for anyone else but growing up I could afford maybe one new album a month if I was lucky. We were poor. Usually it was a tape from kmart. CDs were usually out of reach price wise.
When all I could afford was one album for the month it was on repeat for at least a month. I rarely do that anymore. When one of my very favorite artists releases a new album I might put it on repeat for a week on streaming while I wait for my physical copy to arrive. I'll spin my physical copy a few times a year, but after that I only listen if it comes up on my favorites playlist.
Streaming ruined that experience of only having limited access to music, and in the end I think I'm ok with it because the benefits outweigh the down sides. But I am still nostalgic for the days of old when a new record, tape or CD was more coveted than they are now.
Streaming has replaced listening to the radio to hear new music.
Besides reviewing music on TH-cam. No streaming for me. I started back to collecting CDs last summer. Over the last year I've averaged buying a 100 CDs a month from Goodwill to rebuild my collection. I'm currently at 1535 CDs. And that goes for my audio equipment as well. I've been able to find some good early 80's to mid 90's receivers, amps, CD players and speakers for really good prices.
I’ve been saying it for the last few years that right now is a great time to get into CDs. They can still be found for cheap and sound great!
Streaming has also ruined movies too!
In late ‘99 I did a speech in college on what I thought Napster would do to the music industry. I thought it would absolutely destroy it. I was debating people who wanted it for free. We saw how that turned it. The music business is so much better now, right? It’s dead and that was the start of it. They socialized the music industry and now it’s dead. My taste is 60s-80s, but at least in the 90s there were scenes. “Oh you just have to look for the great bands?” Really? I never had to “look” for Prince, David Bowie, Van Halen, Black Sabbath, The Cars, etc. Music is so over saturated now, anybody with a computer can create and flood the market, talented or not. The argument will be made “it’s all subjective” but just ask yourself if we’re better off pre Napster or post?
Im 27 and use streaming and I feel none of these critiques apply to me. I like to listen to cohesive projects start to finish. I definitely have nostalgic memories when I listen to certain albums of where I was when I first heard it or played it a lot.
Streaming opens doors for so many artists that would have been overlooked. No longer do you have to go through the machine to be heard. If you make great music and share it online, people can hear it
I do agree that these companies are greedy and physical media is great because it can never be taken away. That's about it, but appreciate hearing your perspective✌️
I do think a lot of people treat music as disposable, but I think people did that back in the day too. But some people, like me and you are super passionate and invested in our music
The absolute worst part about streaming is that it doesnt compensate the artists fairly. This has lead to many up-and-coming musicians needing to support themselves with day jobs, which in turn, takes a hit to their musical output.
Definitely! And it also causes bands to increase prices for concerts and go on tour for multiple years, which leads to 4-5 year gaps between albums. It’s why it’s hard for a lot of bands to keep their creative momentum.
I also will only stream to hear an album to see if anything else besides the released single is any good. If so I go out and buy the physical album. I prefer vinyl records, but if the CD is the only choice , it better not cost more than $13.99. A few of my favorite artists in the last 5 or so years are only releasing on streaming or digital downloading services and it makes me lose interest in them. They are pushing longtime fans away in my opinion.
Nailed it!! Streaming is a tool for me for the exact reason you mentioned, if I'm gonna drop $X.XX on an album I want to make sure I like at least 80% of it, no album is perfect. Your other point, easy, Amen. I'm going to be 60 this year and sometimes trying to explain to new people in the hobby or even just music fans how different the process, routine and anticipation was in the "good ole' days", compared to now, falls flat. I've loved music since I was tall enough to flip the top open on my parents console stereo system and remember fondly how excited I was to buy my first album at around 10, lol. What stands out to me is that you would hear a single on the radio, start to get hyped about the band/artist, keep an eye on when it was going to be released, planned your trip to the record store to pick it up with your friends, probably stopped for some pizza afterwards, then pulled the shrink, vinyl to platter, needle drop and liner notes in hand, you just sat back and enjoyed. I know times change, and that's not always a bad thing, but a lot of times I feel we're loosing some of those "moments" for the sake of progress. Music is different things to different people, to some it is just background noise, a distraction while working, filler if you will, so it's hard to judge, hell, I even know some people who just don't like music and I can't wrap my head around that at all. Anyway if you need another angry old man screaming at the clouds to keep you company on the front lawn, just hit me up ;)
Streaming services make available to me music I would never buy. I've also never noticed a big difference in quality in sound on streaming than physical, but I have good quality Bose speakers. That being said, I still want to collect albums but inflation has lead to to stream albums I would normally get on vinyl such as the new Maggie Rogers album is still going for $29.99. Claire is going for $27.99 and Chappell Roan is going for $32.99. I would pay $20 but not these prices so I'm streaming until the prices come down. Streaming also gives artists expose so people can get to their live shows. Chappell Roan might not make much on streaming but people are attending her shows in droves. Anyway, mixed reviews here.
Started buying records in the seventies, then cds, then Spotify. No problem. I want to be emotionally attached to music, not to the way I am listening it. As for Spotify sounding worse than physical releases, that is just audiophile paranoia.
Pandora was the first streamer followed by Slacker than Spotify. Slacker innovated off line caching on phones or portable players. Tidal innovated providing lossless and high resolution. But I listen to cds and lps especially since multidisc vintage players being readily available on 2nd hand sources
I only use Spotify to check ✔️ out new music..I definitely prefer vinyl or cd 💿
I'm 80% vinyl records 10% cd's 10% streaming!!!! I only use streaming for walking and driving. I work from home so always spinning something. I will always love the physical part of collecting music
“So music has changed a lot over the last twenty five years” 😂😂😂 dude that was awesome to see the process, I want to make videos myself but feel nervous and weird about it and that’s exactly how I am when I try but you nail it in the end man gives me hope
I hate being restricted on what I can listen to by some corporate overlords. Too many times I've had some of my favorite media removed from a service and feels terrible. Like I go to watch an old youtube cover and it's been removed, or I'm midway through Star Trek Voyager and netflix drops the content, or spotify just doesn't have my favorite album by Mos Def (the Ecstatic). I've realized over the years that you can't expect any of these entities to act in your best interest. They are just going to try and make a buck no matter what.
In the 70's I started with vinyl and I think my last album purchased was in 1988, then on to CD's. I toyed a bit with Napster when they started, but kept buying CD's. I did a bit of streaming but then you realize how bad the quality was, so I started buying tons of FLAC files and listened through a FiiO X5 player, and now back fully into vinyl the past 3 years. Oh by the way, your video ends with a few dozen cuts of you doing edits and retakes of what you wanted to say!! Cheers
My family (kids included) have always been physical format inside the home and streaming outside the home.
Over the air radio stations blow so if I wasn’t able to stream in the car I’d go crazy.
Hey Nick ! there will be a million opinions on this and probably all valid. Without streaming there is no way i would have been aware of all the artists and genres I presently listen to. I would never have purchased some of the physical media i own without streaming. Streaming isn't the problem, it's about the consumer and how they use it. I think serious music lovers are not the problem. They will always buy music they love and streaming is there gateway to discovery.
For my serious listening sessions, I use CD, vinyl, or hi res digital download. That said, I really enjoy streaming for both casual (background) listening and especially new music discovery (as you pointed out as well in the video).
Spotify says they’ve got. Every music artist no they don’t as well as any other music service plus with the permeium version of Spotify you have to pay for your music
Bottom line, you own nothing with streaming. Monthly fees can and will continue to climb. If there is a beef between a musician and streaming they might drop off of streaming altogether.
You don't own it with the LP or CD either, you own the recording. You own a fancy zerox copy. Congratulations on your huge zerox collection.
@@Shawn_at_UNDERGROUND_TAPES Boy is that a lame argument.
@@Shawn_at_UNDERGROUND_TAPES Physical media will always be superior to streaming
I'm always buying CD's, but I like 8 track tapes the best.
The convenience is nice. No more putting 8 AA batteries in my portable cd player to go to the gym 😂 Even tho the mp3 player initially fixed that. Plus the ability to listen to new bands.. that’s nice. However, I think streaming has done two things that have been devastating to music: one, it’s ruined the profitability of the “album”. Now artists have to charge me $350 to see them live lol. The album just doesn’t make the same amount of money anymore. And I see less work put into the construction of albums at times. Second, I think the connection between streaming and the listener is totally lifeless compared to from vinyl or cd or whatever media. I can listen to the same album on cd… then stream it… and I have two entirely different “feelings”. There’s no connection to the robotic feel of the stream service. And I use tidal. That’s the biggest issue for me. The connection!
Every person/scenario is different. Streaming is amazing if I want music on while I'm doing something else. If I want to listen critically I'll listen to a hard copy with my eyes closed. Just be happy it's an option. Why do people try and find a struggle in everything in this world. Don't like streaming,?don't do it. If this is what you are worried about then celebrate the fact that you don't have significant worries in your world. Millennials find millennial problems.
Definitely gone back to CD and Records ( Don't call it vynl). That's a big peeve for me.
Anyway yes like you in my car it's Spotify ( Since new cars removed CD), or I wouldn't stream at all.
Streaming does help to discover Records that otherwise are never heard on radio these days, thanks to Simon Cowell
I prefer having the physical media in hand. I'm not against streaming for those who prefer it. It's just my preference.
LOVE MY CDS AND VINYL ALWAYS WILL!
Im probably one of the few who doesn't stream music and still listen to my CDs.
Maintaining and purchasing a good turntable and vinyls is too expensive. I dont stream but play downloaded flac files on my pc and purchase itunes (not apple music) tracks that I have backed up in diferent hard drives. I have hundreds of itunes albums since I bought my first ipad in 2011.
That’s why I’m The 🤴 of all mediums! 😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😊
I listen to CDs because they're convenient 👍
For a lot of people including myself I am thankful for the streaming services When a new release comes out I can listen to it on Apple Music and if I like it I buy it on vinyl or CD Saves me from blind buys! Don’t you say you will stream it on your show???? I don’t think you’re clickbait title is true as millions of people are still buying physical copies of music
Like I said in the video, streaming can be a useful tool (and one that I’m not getting rid of anytime soon, if ever), but overall I still think it’s done way more damage to music. Yes there are a lot of people that buy physical music, but it’s still a small percentage of music sold each year.
sorry but I will be the contrarian , I stream a lot , and I still buy hard copies of something I really enjoy .., streaming has opened music again to new generations , and exposed many artists many would never of heard of .., streaming is basically the new tape trading .., in a way streaming has saved music from a sure death that was on the horizon 15 years ago !!!
Useless clickbait with a splash of hypocrisy.
I have 1300 vinyl records and over 2000 CDs. I have a very nice stereo system. I do not own a car. I have absolutely no reason to stream anything. Plus, they screw the musicians.