Putting Canada's 30 Season Cup Drought Into Perspective
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- I have seen all of the memes about the Cup residing in the US, but it's not as simple as that.
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it’s been so long that patrick marleau, NHL history’s most games played guy, played an entire career from draft to retirement (with wiggle room on both sides!) without seeing a canadian cup champ
*Sad Canadian Noises*
Nail yakupov has never been alive for a Canadian teams Stanley cup win and he's wayyyy out of the league
@@lanemarsOilers have had lots of high picks, this century. Nail nailed his own NHL cough cough in
Now that you've put it that way...
Think it's just bad luck for canadian teams
Babe, wake up. It's madness board time!
Yea!
nothing more iconic that a board with "1967" and " lost Rd.1" next to a Leafs magnet
The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.
@@Borodin410 This is the dumbest thing I have read today. Thank you.
@@brAnd7onX87 Look it up. Canadian teams, before Bettman, were penalized in an even distribution. Ever since Bettman took over they are all collected near the top of the league in penalties.
@@Borodin410 Sure thing buddy lmao. That explains why the Ducks, Panthers, Coyotes, and Wild were top 4 in penalties and Montreal was 5th, Ottawa was 6th and they both have an enforcer on board so it makes sense why they're near the top. You clearly don't like the fact that Winnipeg was near the bottom of the league in terms of penalized teams. Most of the Canadian teams were more so in the middle for last season. It's kind of funny you clear the NHL wants to help their newer markets when the Islanders, Penguins, and Blues were some of the least penalized teams in the league, and it makes sense. It's almost like if your team holds an enforcer or a very physical player (or multiple), your team will take more penalties wow who would have thought!!
@@HarryRiceHockey One season in isolation. Look at penalties taken in the playoffs by Canadian teams vs US teams since Bettman took over.
The most important aspect of building a Cup contender is triple-checking that you haven't inadvertently signed Corey Perry
I feel like Winnipeg breaking the curse would piss the most people off so that's what I want.
I've always thought it'd be Winnipeg or Ottawa to break the curse, just because that'd be funniest and no one would expect it
@dustyb58 many variables would be funny if the Jets won, no doubt.
But the Leafs doing it would "piss off" the most people. For suuuuuuure 😂
Im a Canucks fan btw 🙃
Leafs would piss off the most people by winning.
Edmonton or Toronto for me.
Why
Can't believe you got a Utah jersey early! Very cool they went with the "Utah Hockey Guys", hopefully you're getting some type of royalty!
Low-key a better name than Yeti or Blizzard😂
Utah HG > Utah HC
@@LSA30 Yeti is betther than Hockey Club or Blizzard
It's crazy that from 95 to 98 there were 4 consecutive years of 4-0 sweeps in the cup final. No wonder people wanted to go back to 1-16, especially 96-98 when the "real cup final" felt like it had been played in an earlier round between the likes of Colorado and Detroit.
I'm just stunned that there were four sweeps in the Stanley Cup Final in a row 😆.
...and none since 98...
LGRW 🐙🐙🐙🐙
And three game sevens in a row in the SCF during the mid-2000's.
@@DodgerFan1988 The last two of them having teams from the south winning their first Cup while defeating Alberta teams whose last cups came back-to-back (Calgary in '89 and Edmonton in '90)
There's actually 11 first-time champs in that timeframe, 2012 was the first for the Kings...
I feel like one thing you neglected to mention is that nearly every Canadian team has made it to the final during the drought (Vancouver '94, Calgary '04, Oilers '06, Ottawa '07, Vancouver '11, Montreal '21, Oilers '24). Not only that, but five of those series went to 7 games (Calgary, both Oilers, and both Vancouver).
Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final means anything can happen when a few bounces go your way, and its really shocking that none of those four teams could get the job done! That's what makes it feel like a curse for me.
*None* of the American teams on the right side of your board have made it to Game 7 of the final during the drought. (Although four of them have made it to the final (Philly '97, Buffalo '99, Philly '10, San Jose '16, Nashville '17)).
So many people blame Bettman as if he is moving chess pieces around with Refs to make sure Canadian teams don't win lol. I don't think most people know he works for the owners.
yeah also as THG pointed the League would lose money by rigging games
Bettman works for money. more money to be made in the US hence he is inclined to support conditions that support the US.
@@JBTriple8and Hockey seems like an incredibly hard game to rig. Especially considering the amount of staff needed to run these games, the outcomes being pre-determined WITHOUT ever being leaked seems like an impossibility
@@davidwordsworth5584Isn't Toronto the 2nd most profitable franchise? Montreal is up there too. If he wanted money he'd send those teams to the finals and would cash in BIG time
It's not a single force preventing canadian forces from winning, it's alot of factors, namely higher taxes, and its a sheer numbers game at the end of the day, there's only 7 canadian teams of 32 teams, and even before expansions, there have generally been more American teams, that skews the odds in American teams' favor.
You forgot the LA Kings, it was their 1st cup in 2012
@@ja3188 I was coming here to say this. I was surprised that he missed that. THG is usually so accurate
I always forget that Gretzky didn't win one down there
"they would have re hired them and fired them again" love it lol
1:30 Kansas City Scouts actually entered in 1974 with the Capitals. (1972 was Islanders and Atlanta Flames.)
I will never not laugh at the fact an American team has won the Grey cup more recently than a Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup
And that team (Baltimore Stallions) moved to Montreal after winning the Grey Cup.
The Baltimore Stallions’ success played a HUGE role in us getting the Ravens not long after
They saw to it in the CFL that An American based team made it to the Grey Cup, right out of the gate. Much like they did with the NHL during their 1968 expansion. The NHL actively works to ensure we see 2 American based teams whenever they can. The day before the League looked the other way on the Wayne Gretzky High stick that cut Doug Gilmour under his chin for 7 stitches, in OT of game 6 of the 93 Conference Final, with the Leaf's up 3 games to 2 and Montreal already clinching as the Eastern Conference representative, the American Networks had announced that their would be no Stanley Cup Final coverage if it were to be the Leaf's vs Hab's. Gretzky should have got 5 and a game and the Leaf's who were short handed at the time, should have had a 4 minute PP after about a minute of 4 on 4 had expired. But the Kings were protected and there was no call and Gretzky himself was allowed to stay on the ice and score the Kings PP OT winner, seconds later. That happened, whether you like it or not. BTW, the Leaf's swept the season series with the Hab's that year. A Finals against them would have been a favorable match-up for Toronto.
Also keep in mind that the Blue Jays won the World Series twice, the Raptors won the NBA Finals, and Toronto FC has won the MLS cup in the meantime
@BloodRider1914 well the jays last world championship was in 93. Ironically the same year Montreal won the Stanley cup. So it's also been 31 years since a Canadian team won an MLB world series, granted the blue jays are the only Canadian team currently, but the Montreal Expos didn't move to Washington until 2005.
Who knows, maybe Paul Maurice blessed the Jets for next season when he wished they would win a cup
Funny thing is right up to 94, the Canadian teams dominated winning the Cup. If we start in 1955, when the Red Wings won their 4th cup in seven years, and go to 94, Chicago won once, Boston won twice, Philly won twice, the Islanders won 4 times and Pittsburgh won twice. That's 11 cups to US teams out of 39, and most of that time the US teams outnumbered Canadian teams at least 2-to-1.
When I was growing up I attributed this to the Canadian teams being more serious about winning while the American teams just liked to party & get drunk (having heard lots of stories, especially about the Bruins). And in those days, ALL the players in the league were Canadian, except for Tommy Williams. It's just that when they played for Canadian teams they were there to win, but when they came south of the border it was all for fun (and money).
Bettman put an end to that nonsense lol.....As a Habs fan he's gotta go
@@BMXIX In the case of the Canadiens, they have qualifications irrelevant to competence in building a team, unique to their team, that may keep them from hiring the best man for coach, GM, team president, etc. That is, they have to speak French. It seems to me this is also the case with other Canadian teams. Not the "speak French" part, but political (and business) considerations that have nothing to do with running a hockey team keep them from hiring the best man for the job. US teams usually aren't held to the same constraints and this has helped them be more successful over the last 30 years.
@@BMXIX
Right….. bettman
Sure thing
Yeah, if you were to tell someone in 1984 or something that Canadian teams wouldn't hoist the Stanley Cup for an unbroken period of 31 FUCKING YEARS, they'd probably think you were on something. It's utterly bizarre.
@@RRaquello if you really look at it, it’s just that dynasties were easier to assemble then, and it just happened that two of them were home in Canadian cities.
I've been watching this silly game since '66, I have to agree with your view of Quick's run. He was almost a video game at times. Not Dryden, Smith, Fuhr, Roy, Hasek, Brodeur or Crawford and Fleury, absolutely stole as many games in the playoffs, as did Jonathan Quick.
Man if NJ could have only gotten a split at home in one of those 2 OT games that series would have looked different. 2 posts in the one game, but wasn't meant to be. Quick felt unbeatable.
Agreed. However, the 2001 finals stang worse for me. That collapse after taking a 3-2 lead in the series and with game 6 at home was surreal.
The oilers remind me of the 89-90 Chicago bulls. Jordan didn't get his first championship til he was 30. When he and Pippen figured out how to win that was it for the rest of the league, for a long while.
This was also The Kings first
i was about to comment to same thing but i’m only half way through so i wasn’t sure if he was guna fix it or not lol
@@justinz39sabres Took 45 years
That Tampa-Montreal Cup Final will always be odd to me for the novelty of two Wales teams playing for the Cup
habs did something no other team has been able to or will ever be able to do again....an eastern team won the western trophy
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The Cup is quite old and prefers to live in Florida at this stage in its life.
Ohhh Canada…
"I could see Vegas winning another (Stanley cup), which I'm sure everybody will have a completely rational reaction to" made me laugh out loud. You're so based, honestly, in your takes. Love your videos man!
I don't hate Vegas, they have real hockey fans there who do properly love their team.
Its madness. Total madness. And I love it.
In my lifetime I'd love to see a Buffalo v Vancouver SCF! I'm 55!
As a Sabres fan, I think the series would be called off at 3-3 so neither team would win. Sigh. 😢
Thank you Shannon for an amazing video! Puts things nicely into a perspective.
This video obviously took a ton of time and effort. Well done!
These people who keep saying Bettman won’t ALLOW a Canadian team to win the Cup. There’s NO conspiracy. What do you think he’s doing? Going into the Canadian team dressing rooms and ordering them to lose ?
My headcanon is that Bettman impishly traipses around the locker rooms during the playoffs, pulling sick pranks on the Canadian NHL teams
Like, electric shocker in his palm for handshakes, a lapel flower that sprays water, whoopee cushions on the benches…the whole nine yards
Honestly, no Canadian team has any chance during the salary explosion in the 90s. 2004 Flames, 2006 Oilers and 2021 Canadiens are total flukes.
2007 Sens and 2024 Oilers just aren't meant to be. 2011 Canucks had the best shot (up 2 games to none) but self destructed late in Game 3.
Right now the Oilers and the Canucks have the best chance to end the drought, providing their key players can stay healthy. In the foreseeable future, I like the Sens.
Didn't the the Flames and Oilers take it to 7 games in 2004 and 6? Calling that a fluke when Flames MIGHT'VE scored a cup winning goal that wasn't called.... Idk man
@@beaverchicken ehh it was pretty much a fluke looking back at it now. 2004 was their first time they made it past Round 1 since their cup win, they had missed the playoffs about 6 or 7 seasons in a row before 2004, and they didn't even make it past Round 1 again until 2015. I'd say that's a fluke run
@@beaverchicken i wouldnt call them flukes but id call them goalie epic runs tho
2024 oilers wasn’t a fluke either you don’t get to game 7 of the SCF by luck
Vancouver isn't making the playoffs in 24/25
It would be either Montreal or Edmonton break the thing
I hope Montreal
Love how some people really blame Bettman as the reason for the drought and that he’s somehow 100% responsible for why the Oilers lost that Game 7
Nothing to blame on the Edmonton players and coaches…just Gary Bettman?
The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.
@@Borodin410 bad calls happen its not some conspiracy you just posted teams have been just good please I am american hockey fan stop making us the enemy
@@JBTriple8 Before Bettman came in with the expansion mandate, Canadian teams were evenly distributed among the other teams in the league in terms of taking penalties. After Bettman, and since, Canadian teams have collected near the top of the league in taking penalties. The refs know what they're doing. So does Bettman.
@@Borodin410your claim is demonstrably false. Please stop.
@@Borodin410 Okay…so how does any of that explain Edmonton not being able to shoot a puck with accuracy into the net Game 7?
From rabbit hole to beyond the looking glass! I’m in as usual
"Gretzky called them a mickey mouse organization in the 80s" i love you hockey guy HA
The oilers lost twice in the finals in game 7 to two teams that won there first Stanley Cups.
Vancouver has also had 2 x game 7 L's during the drought
@@Frizzyy I see 5 Game 7 loses by Canadian teams Oilers x2 Canucks x2 Flames x1
And those two teams were both from the American South
I'm a Minnesotan, many Minnesotans have won the Cup over the years, but not the North Stars or the Wild. I hope both Minnesota and Canada break the droughts soon.
I always say that the Wild is practically a Canadian team with the hockey culture. Sad to see the curse extends to it too...
I feel like the Colorado avalanche's first Stanley cup could almost be considered a cup win for Canada
Look at that the wings have the most cups in the last 30 years
And it’s been 16 years
Thank you for posting this on July 4th Weekend. We in the US are smiling as we watch this video!
Your smiling because a Canadian team hasn't won in over 30 years? Nice.
@@adam.vision bit funny, innit?
Avs only team to go cup to rebuild to cup in this span. Would also like to see which cup winners had a #1 draft selection on their roster.
Just off the top of my head, Avs had MacKinnon and Erik Johnson for the most recent one (though obviously they didn’t draft Johnson), Penguins had two (Crosby and Fleury) along with 2nd overall (behind Ovi) Evgeni Malkin, Capitals had Ovi.
Anaheim wasnt a favorite going into the 2007 playoffs? Are you kidding me? People were handing them The Cup in December 2006. 😂
I am a Sens fan, I remember most people I talked to said we needed to be perfect in the SCF against them, and even still it might not be enough. That Anaheim Team was complete from the net out in every way, we were lucky to win 1 game against them
Young Bobby Ryan in his prime, a young Corey Perry in his prime, Getzlaf in his prime, Silferberg in his prime, Scott Neidermayer and Chris Pronger as your top d pair, that Anaheim team was killer
@@Scoots_McGee Bobby Ryan wasn't on the Cup winning Anaheim team.
@@Scoots_McGee You clearly dont have a good memory lmfao.
Bobby Ryan "in his prime"... you sure? Dude Bobby Ryan wasn't even on the team, let alone "in his prime". Ryan was *just* drafted in 2005. Silfverberg in his prime?? Bro, Silfverberg wasn't even drafted yet he was 16 years old, when Anaheim won the cup. Ottawa drafted Silfverberg in the second round in 2009 and traded him to the ducks in 2013... he wasn't even a duck until 2013... yet somehow you remember him beating your Sens in 2007...??
@@CrimsonicStorm daydrunk my bad
Have you considered getting a team USA jersey for this yearly video? 😂
as an American Hockey fan I hope to see a Canadian Team hoist the Stanley Cup in my lifetime .
Why? I hope the Cup naturalizes and renounces its Title so it just becomes Fred Stanley's Cup.
Colorado is the only team with a perfect finals record
Good point: 19 of 28 SC's for 6 teams. Cups are won in runs of dominance. I'd divide it by "team cores" though. The first two Av wins were by a totally different core from the most recent one. As was TBL's cores from their first SC and their two most recent.
great video, I cannot believe the canadiens have only been top 10 6 times...embarrassing
It's coming home. 30 years of hurt never stopped us dreaming.
Fully half the current NHL teams have not won in this time span. Under 1/3 of current NHL teams are Canadian.
Not really a curse to me lol
There's 32 teams in the league after all, if the Cup was awarded on a rotation, each team would win once in 32 years.
But since that's not how it's done and the same teams win multiple times, there just have to be a lot of teams with long droughts.
It's pretty simple really, Patrick Roy not only cursed the Canadians he cursed all of Canada! The question is when will he lift the curse?!?
Watch out for Nashville this upcoming year !
Getting fired by the same company multiple times.... I never considered that....too late now. 😢😢😢😢
The KC Scouts entered the league in 1974 (now New Jersey).
I'm sorry, I chuckled so hard at the Leafs "And of course they lost in the first round this year".
Man I would love to see Vancouver win the cup but I do feel Edmonton is the favorite, Calgary and Winnipeg would be awesome as well, Montreal seems to be building a good pipeline, Ottawa building there core and Toronto seems to implode from within
Good information.
"I dont want to just sit here and dump on Canadian franchises." Cmon Shannon, why do you think we're all here?
Exactly 😂
Toronto and Buffalo feel like the most cursed.
Must be something in the waters of Lake Ontario.
Tell me about it (says this Sabres fan). I’m coming to terms with never seeing a Championship (Bills included). But it’s OK as long as (1) Toronto never wins (2) Vancouver (expansion twin) only wins after a Sabres miracle.
I dunno man Ottawa feels real cursed.
Here's a theory, especially for the more recent Cup champions. Canadian teams are highly reluctant to incorporate high-performing Russian superstars into their teams. Look at Bobrovsky, Kucherov, Vasilevsky, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taraschenko, etc. In fact, I can't recall a single Russian superstar ever playing for a Canadian team (but my memory is not that good). I call this the "Don Cherry Effect". There may be an inherent bias for Canadian teams to acquire top Russian players, which often makes a big difference.
Pavel Bure was one, I guess? Vancouver in general seems to be incorporating plenty of russian players.
So does Montreal I think. Markov and Emelin were the staples of their defence for years. Kovalev also played there significant time.
Teams like Jets, Oilers, Flames don't use a lot of russian players indeed (although Oilers tried to draft Yakupov, to their credit. Did not end well for them). But I think they are just more canadian-leaning in general. I saw a chart that showed this year's Oliers were almost entirely canadian, which is pretty rare in today's league.
Also, on the other hand, Boston is one of the least russian-friendly teams in the league, and they've been doing relatively well in the last 15 years.
So I'm not sure there are any grand conspiracies in this regard.
Pavel Bure for the Canucks (and he did play for them in the drought era).
@@andreylopatin7230 I was referring to a more recent trend of SC winners, say in the last decade. The examples you gave me, like Bure (retired in 2003) and Boston (last SC cup in 2011), do not really address my point of recent SC winners having Russian superstars. Markov and Emelin were decent players, but not on the level of Russian superstars I gave in my list. I still stand by my hypothesis.
@@ishave1627some of the guys you mentioned were can’t-miss top draft picks so Canadian teams didn’t have a chance at them unless it was via free agency years into their careers. And although I can’t speak for every team, my Avs never had a key Russian player during any of their Cup runs. I remember one Russian being on the 96 squad but he wasn’t a top player.
@@MDK2_Radio I'm not saying you absolutely need a Russian superstar to win the Cup (like your Avs). And I know some of those players were top draft picks. but Kucherov was drafted 58th, so every team had a shot at him, Vasilevsky 19th, Tarasenko 16th and Bobrovsky was undrafted. And some Canadian teams have been pretty bad over the years so it can't be argued they didn't have high draft picks. The biggest implication here is that if certain teams exclusively "neglect" a geographical area containing high-end players, they're not availing themselves of the best talent pool. I don't know what goes on in the war rooms of Canadian NHL teams, and I'm pretty sure it's not explicitly said, it's just that it struck me as a pretty obvious roster coincidence that all of the Canadian teams don't seem to have Russian superstars.
Sad reminder the only time Columbus finished in the top 10, they finished 4th. That was 3rd in their division.
Finishing 4th in the NHL and not even getting home ice. Horrendous luck.
a Canadian team will not win a cup again until Montreal does first, they were the last to win therefor they have to be the one to break the curse. after they win we will start seeing more Canadian teams win more often but will not happen until Habs do first
What are some of your other superstitions?
I think the 30 year Canadian cup drought is a top 5 favorite thing in sports for me
14:18 I'm pretty sure they did do that in Claude Julien's case.
and therrien
Anyone but Edmonton.
# 1993 - Montreal Canadiens beats LA Kings = To date the last time a Canadian team won the Cup.
# 1994 - NY Rangers beats Vancouver Canucks.
# 2004 - Tampa Bay Lightning beats Calgary Flames.
# 2006 - Carolina Hurricanes beats Edmonton Oilers.
# 2007 - Anaheim Ducks beats Ottawa Senators.
# 2011 - Boston Bruins beats Vancouver Canucks.
# 2021 - TB Lightning beats Montreal Canadiens.
# 2024 - Florida Panthers beats Edmonton Oilers.
No Canadian based NHL team since 1993 have won a Stanley Cup championship, and in 30 seasons since then, ONLY 7 Finals have featured a Canadian NHL team,
including Canucks & Oilers 2x each.
Winnipeg Jets (both versions) have so far never managed to play a finals-series and the Maple Leafs have not been in the finals since 1967 = Record Finals Cup drought of 57 years and counting.
Hi Shannon! This video made me of the 6 expansion teams of 1967 and how relatively unsuccessful they’ve been other than the Penguins. Blues 1 Cup, Stars 1 Cup, Kings 2 Cups, Flyers 2 Cups, Seals/Barons defunct. Only the Penguins have as many as 5 Cups. In addition, many of them had severe financial troubles or needed to move. I think this could be a topic you could present.
Was really hoping you'd bring up Hossa during that 2008-2010 run. Lost win the Pens, moved to Detroit. Lost with Detroit, moves to Chicago. Finally wins it with Chicago and I don't think I've ever rooted against a team harder; partly as a Wings fan but most because losing in the Final 3 times in a row with 3 different teams would have been a hilarious record.
I swear I’ve read an article about how the flyers have been historically unlucky in their history and should’ve had more cups
That's the thing. When Canadian teams make the Final, it's almost always as the underdog. Of the 7 who've reached that point since 1994, only Vancouver had home-ice advantage. And they decided not to show up for their away games (in Boston), leaving them on thin ice. It'd be one thing if Canadian teams dominate and then inexplicably wilt in the Final. But the fact is they simply haven't been operating on as high a level as some of their American counterparts.
Gelinas scored
Where's the proof?
For as long as a drought it's been for Detroit, I was astonished my wings have the most cups since 93.
It's insane there's billions of people that have not been alive long enough to see a Canadian team win the cup
Yes, location has a small part to play, some players simply prefer to play in the US, that's a fact, and taxes/language sometimes comes into play. But if you think any of that is MORE of a factor than the league adding more teams and just globalization as a whole, you are kidding yourself. There is proportionally many less Canadians than then there ever was in the league, because there are more Americans, more Europeans, more Russians and heck, Asian players coming in. That's a good thing. That means the game, globally is getting healthier and healthier. The Czech Republic just won a gold medal at the worlds that no one saw coming, that's a good thing. It's called growth, and although it's MUCH slower than the other sports/leagues, it's there. Good.
It also helps that with the NHL’s strict salary cap, that teams based in lower income taxed areas, such as states with no income tax (FL, TX, NV) would find a benefit with attracting better talent because they would keep more of their check when playing in a state like Florida; compared to playing in Canada where I know that people get taxed on their income a lot more.
What the NHL can do is figure the fact that teams based in US states with no income tax have an advantage over NHL teams based in Canada, where income is taxed more and maybe give Canadian teams more salary cap cushion over a team like the Lightning or the Panthers, or factor in which NHL team is based in a city with the highest income tax rates out of all 32 NHL teams and give each team a different salary cap figure; to make things fair for all 32 teams
The only reason that St. Louis was in last place (regular season) during their Stanley Cup season was because they had played fewer games than any of the other teams at that point in the season.
Interestingly, all of the 3+ cup winners had some of the most iconic captains: Yzerman, Toews, Crosby, Stevens. Some wiggle room on this (Lidstrom was a captain for one cup, Stamkos for two of the Ning, Bergeron was iconic, Sakic only for two). Not a guarantee obviously and who knows if it grows a captain or requires a captain. But shows the importance of the “C”.
When the avs won it again in ‘22 landeskog was also one of the best captains in the league at the time
@@Colton_Dane yeah, but I wouldn’t put him with the 4 I mentioned, which is not a slight.
I honestly believe this isn't scripted and Shannon is pouring this knowledge out of his brain.
Bring back the Thrashers!
16 teams have not won. Of the 16, 7 are canadian, or 43.75% Considering that those canadian teams make 21.87% of the league, we can safely say that canadian teams are over-represemted in the "have not won the cup" subset. This is not an anomaly, this is by design.
Yeah…..
Real big brained comment there
Feel free to expand on your conspiracy
Tell me you don't know how probability works without saying it outright
@@OldDistantHermit
It’s incredible mental gymnastics
This Minnesota fan feels your pain. We are as close to Canada as you can get when it comes to hockey. No cups and got the added bonus of watching my favorite team hoist the cup 6 years after they left us. Thank god for alcohol 🍻
Florida is now the State Of Hockey not shitty Minnesota
Thanks for that. You really bring a lot to the discussion
“Mickey Mouse organization” lol
It has to be taxes. There’s no other explanation for the drought besides maybe Gary pulling some strings to swing series on occasion.
Wings fan here and I love the drought. Been chanting "Keep the Cup out of Canada!" since 2004. This year was pretty scary but my 2nd team, The Florida Panthers (was born in Florida) got it done.
LA Kings fans knew it was going to be a drought. We still remember 1993. We will always remember!
At this point, I don’t care who pulls it off
I counted for fun, he has 440 magnets on that board
yep and 440 are good V8 engines....in engine you need ....OIL!...Oilers win next year! 😂
Someone (not THG, he gets it) needs to explain to me how it's Bettman's fault that the Canucks lost a Game 7 (twice), the Oilers lost a Game 7 (twice), the Flames lost a Game 7, the Senators and Habs couldn't even get to a Game 7, the Leafs (who got Auston Mathews even though lots of fans up north swore up and down the lottery would be "rigged" for Arizona) and Jets (who many fans up north blame Bettman for losing but don't credit him for returning??!) cant even get to a Final. Yep, all Bettman's fault.
Once Canadian teams are in the final, anything can happen. The fact that they're 0-7 is an anomaly
Gary continually expanding the league though into the US is a big problem for Canadian teams. It's more teams to play against, free agents going elsewhere, draft picks going south etc. All this for American cities where the NHL is the #4 or #5 sports league in town. Edmonton was a street party for three weeks
...whichever Canadian's team that has the most names on it gets to keep it...
There is an element of bad luck to it. During the "drought" there have been nine 7-game finals, and a Canadian team has lost five of those (Canucks x2, Oilers x2, Flames).
The coincidence of Bettman being appointed in February 1993, and the last Canadian team winning in June 1993 is rather entertaining though...
he Gave the Habs the trophy he is not the GM of every team
People who act like pro sports (other than international tournaments) are about countries rather than cities are so annoying
Nothing annoys me more than people saying “oh bettman doesnt want a Canadian team winning” as if it wouldn’t make the league insane amount of money (except probably Winnipeg sadly)
Also I think only one team is really “Canada’s” when they go on a playoff run and it’s the habs.
Here’s to another 30 🥂
A lot of good and equally enraging memories on this board. Of most of these, the most memorable, for me at least, were the ‘94 rags win, the ‘08 pens win and most recently, even though I was pulling for the three-peat for the lightning, that Colorado/Tampa series was some of the best hockey I’ve seen in a long time. This year’s final was kinda m’eh, even though as, for whatever reason as a kid who grew up in northern MN, I had a Florida panthers starter jacket because…reasons..?
Look at all those Winged Wheels up there.
I think the Sens are shaping up well and could get there in a couple years. Need to see them make the playoffs this coming season, though!
I love that my canes have finished top 3 the last 4 years and have 0 wins in the ecf 😁
*Being born in 1993. This past Stanley Cup series scared me to death. Especially being from Michigan.*
Hated when Pittsburgh beat Preds in finals
If you picked 7 teams at random, the odds of every single one not having won a cup in the last 30 years or so would be incredibly low. The Canadian teams are those 7 teams. It's far more likely that there is some common factor about being a Canadian team that is preventing them from winning. It's not a matter of chance, there is a reason- but it's stupid to call it a curse. Taxes or pressure probably, probably a mix of both.
It's on a team by team basis. Here's my crackpot analysis
Habs: After Roy left management never undertook a full rebuild and the Habs were mostly a yo-yo playoff team with some occasional strong performances (Carey Price's mostly), but it took until Bergevin's firing to get good management.
Sens: An absolute joke of a franchise at times which got to the finals once but has suffered from serious underinvestment.
Leafs: Literally the worst management in the NHL under Ballard which polluted the franchise. They've been contending for nearly a decade at this point but have weak fan-pleasing management.
Jets: No one wants to play in Winnipeg, it's that simple.
Oilers: After 2006 they had a mixture of awful luck and poor management which led to a long enforced rebuild, but since then they at least got lucky with the draft in 2015 (after the Yakopov disaster) but have struggled until recently with depth.
Flames: I don't know as much about them other than that they got fucked by Tkatchuk but they're going into a rebuild probably so ehh.
Canucks: Good teams that just can't get over the hump, but I see them contending from now on.