Here's the outline of my conversation with George. If you'd like to add other moments to it, please post timestamps as replies: 0:00 - Introduction 1:00 - Simulation 6:36 - Hacking 26:45 - Comma ai and autonomous vehicles 1:17:30 - Car Insurance business plan 1:19:30 - Why LIDAR is a Crutch 1:27:30 - Three autonomous driving problems 1:49:12 - Hard work 1:50:20 - Merging with AI 1:56:50 - Winning
I love the contrast between the passion radiation from George and the absolute, utter monotony of Lex's voice : two brilliant minds with seemingly opposite temperaments...
I like that Lex is not intimidated by this guy. He calls him on his overstatements. His interviewing style and knowledge of the subject makes this an incredibly interesting conversation.
If I was an actor and I have to base a genius villain character on someone alive, I would definitely base it on George's mannerisms, speech and general demeanor
@@jacobvanveit3437 - What made me consider it at first were his speech mannerisms... and then zooming out to him in general, some of his talks, his 12 hour coding sessions with incredible speed and focus, etc... Just google the symptoms and observe him a little bit. And also, get out of your head that peple with asperger have to be clumsy or dysfunctional. There are many types and levels of that syndrome. Btw, there are many successful/famous people that are known to be affected by it.
Ix Px sorry I was just curious why you have this assessment. I in no way was judging your assessments, I was just trying to point out that he’s not demonstrating the typical habits. I don’t discount you’re assessment I just felt like your statement needed a bit of clarification and pointing to why. I agree that he’s very gifted in his abilities but it’s also clear his ego is very high and his empathy is fairly low. I’m with you that he may have Aspergers, but he also exhibits opiate use. He’s stated that he’s used Kratom before and also has had a nervous breakdown. I’m somewhat inclined to not rule out drug use but I also have not seen a 12 hour stream of him coding non stop.
@@jacobvanveit3437 - No problem, and thank you for being this considerate. It's so rare in this day and age that i was a bit surprised, honestly ! ;-) Yes, the high ego, complete disregard for the opinions of others and low empathy are also things that i saw but did not mention in my previous post. He's one of those aspergers that definitely get certain advantages from it, in his scientific field. But on a human level, it's easy to see/feel that things are missing. For instance, sometimes, during his talks, he tries to have deeper considerations about our reality, the meaning of life, etc... where he basically tries to bring it all back to his niche. He deals with what he has, and since he's cut off from some basic human characteristics, he only ends up with his typical scientific intellectualization.
I really did like the straight -forwardness of the conversation and how these two guys displayed their contrast about some topics, without any hesitation. Really pleasant and sophisticated video, that makes any AI guy who dreams a fully autonomous vehicle future to reconsider about the structure of their system.
kind of. I still think people have familiarity biases, and if one particular company gets established first, some people will chose them based on brand recognition alone.
Great interview, great combi to have Lex interview George. George is not only very knowledgable and creative but also great in how open and honest he is. Assisted by Lex he was able to share how he reduced the problem to it essentials and by that he shared many years worth of thinking, analyzing and experimenting in this domain. All for free ! For anybody involved in driver assistance, autonomous driving or even just in management in the car industry this is a MUST watch interview. Well spend 2 hours, thank you both George and Lex !
@@actualfactual8737 Dude, Lex does not give a Fuck about your Hate. You are just a Bitch Keyboard warrior. You don't have shit knowledge that Lex has. YOur Hates does not Mean anything dude. So, stop bitching.
I think this is one of the most instructive and thought-provoking interviews you've done thus far. I understand the need to find the idyllised machine that will enable constant learning at the equilibrium state. Although of course the idyllised 'machine' is the unsocialised or pre-socialised self that we know we don't yet know well enough.
"If I sell out to like make money. I sold out. It doesn't matter. What do I get? A yacht? I don't want a yacht." - George Hotz This made me giggle so much. What an interesting young gentleman. It is not a stretch to share that George's passion for what interests him is infectious. I can see why Lex left George's Twitch stream on in the background while programming.
There was a press conference for Comma AI where George mentioned something like "hello yachts" when referring to the near future of his company, or perhaps the potential in investing in it.
Great quote: My MTP is Transforming telecommunication and transportation to create sustainable, salubrious & profitable business with zero fatalities, zero congestion & net zero carbon footprint. The 5th generation of transportation will be CASE (Connected, Automated, Shared and Electric Vehicles) but I think even more transformative will be 6th G - Virtual transportation with VR going from “it” to “bit” to save money, time and the planet. There have been 4 Generations of transportation: 1G - Boats/Ships: The oldest boat ever found is ~10,000 years old. 2G - Trains: ~200 years 3G - Automobiles: ~130 years 4G - Planes: ~114 years Author’s Note: there is a generation 0 of transportation which is biological transportation: foot or animal transportation. Each new G of transportation has increased the use of GHG per mile. We are now going to change that trend by shifting to 2 new Gs of transportation. 5G - CASE - Connected, Automated, Shared and Electric Vehicles 6th G is Virtual transportation with VR - From “it” to “bit” to save money, time and the planet Society fundamentally changed with each new transportation generation in the past. The next 10-25 years may be more transformative with 5G CASE and 6G VR than the last 4Gs of transportation. Today, transportation uses 25% of the World Energy resources and generates 27% of US greenhouse gases. If we are going to solve the problem of excess GHG, we are going to have to change the way people travel. A 5G Communication System for a 5G Transportation System. www.linkedin.com/pulse/5g-communication-system-transportation-doug-hohulin/
Zeev Kirsh He's not going to sell out he's already battled and won against the US govt, demo'd the software to the Chinese govt, and Turned down an employment offer from Elon Musk in the tens of millions. He's made the software open source and has also made an insane amount of money on hackerone. He's currently writing his own programming language. He is not naive, he's a once in a life time mind.
Jabrils it was really unique, they weren’t afraid to push on each other’s ideas, George is obviously super brilliant and quirky but right on the edge of where he still comes off as very eloquent. Please have him on again. Also, thanks for your cool quirky unique videos Jabrils. Internet needs more of this energy
@@norrow7047 Mick Jagger. Rolling Stones. They wrote the book on rock and roll attitude more or less. (Fuck you I won't play your game etc) should look the guy/band up
this man claims to have found the clock cycle and synchronization cycles....also how it relates to an information projection dimension. you guys should take a look at this....he also found a quantum computer language hidden as the the Jewish alphabet from a pre existing advanced civilization.....search "diehold foundation" they have a youtube channel. according to them this is a quantum sim with two dimensions one projector and the other projection universe.
@ModestDeity They were not talking about a *representation* of our universe per say, it was more literal. Is everything we know *a* simulation run by some thing? It's a serious possibility, if you were to think of the odds... Imagine in 3019; 'humans' have surpassed many milestones [energy, disease, ageing, ai, space flight, whatever, et cetera] what could simulations be useful for and how believable could they be to the beings inside them? Then, realise how many simulations could be running simultaneously! Forget conspiracy, statistically it's more than likely.
@@EDcaseNO Our most immediate goal is to escape the simulation.
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Damn, despite looking really tired you conduct this conversation amazingly! You guys know a lot about a lot of different topics and that showed up. One of the bests in my opinion. Thank you!!
This would have to be one of the best insights into the self-driving world coming. Thanks, Lex, great work on this interview. George, thanks for the laymen break down. Great works gents!
Say what you want about George and his demeanor; this was an interesting conversation! Lex was clearly challenged during this dialogue and that made it even more enjoyable. Love the Mick Jagger comment
Don't conflate a brief reflection and measured speech with "challenged". The Hotz guy has more first hand experience because its his sole focus. So he uses specific jargon that Lex is either unfamiliar with or wants clarification for his audience. However, his systemic understanding of the business climate and the tangential factors that affect his business is wanting. Hotz is the smarter guy in the room but Lex is the wiser guy in the room and 1oz wisdom is worth a pound of knowledge.
Matt Acuff , I agree. First time for me to listen to him, but Lex is really thoughtful and is not easily swayed by the fancy or complex or intriguing idea from George. Really interesting discussion.
You two are really good to listen to. Different approach but both intelligent, down to earth, insightful, enthusiastic and very open minded. Would love to hear more of you two in the future. I'm sure we will. Keep on the good work.
I have seen about ten of your videos so far and this one is the top of the list for me. The discussion related to the problems of full self driving were fascinating. Thanks Lex!!!!
These guys are a blast to listen too. Just subscribed. Looking forward to more about A.I., autonomous driving. A.I. girlfriends 👀 now that's got my attention haha
@@jje984 see your point and it would be amazing if he were at Tesla. I think George is trying to do the everyman version I.e. Android version, that will be able to be fitted into all cars, not just Tesla's.
@@jje984 "IF" doing a lot of work in your comment. Far from clear that this learning model is correct, particularly if the data they're collecting isn't nearly of the resolution or type required to actually execute so-called "L5", which in my view it isn't. They need next and maybe next-squared generation hardware on these vehicles, along with a standard for car-to-car communication and safety systems. They're approximating reality within their virtual world, but heavily relying on human backup to make up for the data holes in their model. It will be a long time before a "self driving" car will be able to lock eyes with a real driver at a 4-way stop and figure out who goes first. L5 automation in controlled environments - even certain metro environments - will come in a reasonable timeframe. Open environments - real world environments - hahahahaha - let's just say it will be a while before real cars are shipped without steering wheels. Closed environments basically means eliminating virtually all unstructured interaction between machines and humans. There's already a name for that environment, it's called a train system, and as long as you stay within that system, it will work just fine. I think the propagation of self-driving will pretty much be an exercise of extending these controlled environments, rather than extending real self driving capabilities.
I may watch this whole interview again soon. One of the best I have ever listened to. Also the lighting makes it look like it was done in the 80's and regarding the 2020's. Like an interview with Flynn from the original Tron movie.
There are these videos of Feyman which are like gold right now -- I figure if we knew, every waking moment of the mans life should have been catalogued. I'm inclined to think the same with George because 'the errors of a great mind are still more interesting than the discoveries of a mediocre mind' - this entire thing was like watching two thoroughbreds!
Not to be missed podcast brilliant... .... Any one vaguely interested in autonomous driving must watch. What an interview.... You got George to explain at a level that we mortals could just understand,, many thanjs.. Please get Musk and Hotz interviewed together on the subject of autonomous driving algorithms would be so cool 😎
@@UnbenutzerKanalname Early 2016 is when it beat everyone, I was literally taking my first (and phenomenal and world changing) reinforcement learning class AS THEY PROVED E2E DEEP RL TO THE WORLD. It was exhilarating.
AMAZING episode. Thanks so much for doing these Lex! I am not a patrion yet (to any youtube channel), but you make me storngly consider looking more into it :)
Sal1981 , I think it’s more of George is talking about a topic he has thought of a lot while Lex as the interviewer has to have a broader set of knowledge.
@@shorttravelvideos9649 Also if you notice, George has a habit of using unnecessarily rare words to describe basic things. This makes Lex often ask: What is that? And you get the impression that George is teaching Lex things, when in reality it's just him using rare words or unnecessary abbreviations.
Thank you both I massively enjoyed this conversation, I was only thinking recently that L2 is all I would personally want, as I am happy to manually drive most of the time, as it can be fun and part of the game of life, and when needed turned on for the boring motorways and traffic jams. I also find it interesting as hard as your working to make self-drive work better, engineers are making the racing sims as real to life as possible.
Thanks Lex for another amazing episode with your precious time! It made me laugh several times watching you two both 10X engineers from completely opposite spectrum of personalities having an intelligent conversation. George is definitely an incredible genius. Please also get some more sleep Lex with all your hard work! Much appreciated!
I'm sorry to say that I had low expectations of this interview because, unfortunately, I'm the kind of person who finds George's chaotic style too confusing. I'm glad I chose to watch the interview though. Brilliant exchange between two very smart people. 😊 Keep up the great work, Lex.
He's adorable. I love his enthusiasm. I want to be this passionate and intelligent in tech one day ❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 great interview. Love your interviwing skills.
Here's the outline of my conversation with George. If you'd like to add other moments to it, please post timestamps as replies:
0:00 - Introduction
1:00 - Simulation
6:36 - Hacking
26:45 - Comma ai and autonomous vehicles
1:17:30 - Car Insurance business plan
1:19:30 - Why LIDAR is a Crutch
1:27:30 - Three autonomous driving problems
1:49:12 - Hard work
1:50:20 - Merging with AI
1:56:50 - Winning
Eternal thanks for these podcasts.
Lex Fridman hey lex how did you contact Elon I really want to meet him
Lex my man you deserve the best. Keep inspiring
Surprisingly good interview, thank you!
Love the short discussion on ethical reporting too ~1:45:00. His answer to the trolly problem is just perfect!
"You only have to mess up once to be caught as a criminal. That's why I'm not a criminal" - Hotz, George
"DAMN RIGHT!" - Sony
Wow, this guys passion for code just boosted me like watching a rocky scene before hitting the gym.
I love the contrast between the passion radiation from George and the absolute, utter monotony of Lex's voice : two brilliant minds with seemingly opposite temperaments...
@J how did your master thesis go if you finished it
I like that Lex is not intimidated by this guy. He calls him on his overstatements. His interviewing style and knowledge of the subject makes this an incredibly interesting conversation.
Lex is not because he knows his AI stuff, the confidence is from knowing.
Guess lex was wrong. Ahhh the benefit of time. No question, George is a genius. Rivalled by no more than a handful and, no, lex is not one of them.
@@ilikecommenting6849 what was Lex wrong about?
Lex was born in USSR.
fav episode easy
Hotz speaks in 1.25 and lex on 0.75
Lex speaks at 0.5 on his lectures.
Hotz has taken (or takes, idk) Vicodin and OxyContin, and Lex is a non-native english speaker, so... Yeah.
That's their relative coding speeds too
@@jimmyadaro yeah, but Lex would pass as an American 100 times out of 100. he even has a slight New York accent
More like 2x vs 0.5x
George Hotz is amazing. Lex Fridman needs to do this again in 5 years!
Why five years? Surely every year.
@@tjejojyj you were right!
He did in one year.
well guess what
hey man go look
I loved the contrast between Lex and George. Great interview!
Yeah a lot of friction, very beneficial for the listener/viewer!
Hotz is a Toyota Supra and lex is a bulldozer. Odd couple
What you get if Joker and Batman we’re coders 🙂
Steve Buscemi meets James Franco.
@@JoshH-cg4hh thats a really good analogy
If I was an actor and I have to base a genius villain character on someone alive, I would definitely base it on George's mannerisms, speech and general demeanor
Dalisu Ngobese don’t forget, George ultimately wants to make a church of simulation theory! He’s going to be the grand wizard!
Ix Px in what ways? He’s not clumsy, socially awkward, or does repetitive things. I’d like your assessment.
@@jacobvanveit3437 - What made me consider it at first were his speech mannerisms... and then zooming out to him in general, some of his talks, his 12 hour coding sessions with incredible speed and focus, etc...
Just google the symptoms and observe him a little bit.
And also, get out of your head that peple with asperger have to be clumsy or dysfunctional. There are many types and levels of that syndrome. Btw, there are many successful/famous people that are known to be affected by it.
Ix Px sorry I was just curious why you have this assessment. I in no way was judging your assessments, I was just trying to point out that he’s not demonstrating the typical habits. I don’t discount you’re assessment I just felt like your statement needed a bit of clarification and pointing to why.
I agree that he’s very gifted in his abilities but it’s also clear his ego is very high and his empathy is fairly low.
I’m with you that he may have Aspergers, but he also exhibits opiate use. He’s stated that he’s used Kratom before and also has had a nervous breakdown. I’m somewhat inclined to not rule out drug use but I also have not seen a 12 hour stream of him coding non stop.
@@jacobvanveit3437 - No problem, and thank you for being this considerate. It's so rare in this day and age that i was a bit surprised, honestly ! ;-)
Yes, the high ego, complete disregard for the opinions of others and low empathy are also things that i saw but did not mention in my previous post.
He's one of those aspergers that definitely get certain advantages from it, in his scientific field. But on a human level, it's easy to see/feel that things are missing. For instance, sometimes, during his talks, he tries to have deeper considerations about our reality, the meaning of life, etc... where he basically tries to bring it all back to his niche. He deals with what he has, and since he's cut off from some basic human characteristics, he only ends up with his typical scientific intellectualization.
I really did like the straight -forwardness of the conversation and how these two guys displayed their contrast about some topics, without any hesitation. Really pleasant and sophisticated video, that makes any AI guy who dreams a fully autonomous vehicle future to reconsider about the structure of their system.
The interviewer was brutally honest, and I love that!
And that is a exactly the reason why I love Lex. I'm Brutally Honest!
Hands down my favorite episode of the podcast! Hotz had me laughing my ass off, while blowing my mind at the same time. He's a true MAD genius!
while agreed on the first surely down on the later (no ps)
Donald trump is a mad genius!
@@alexcope8142 he is?
"You're slighly insane"
*Proceeds to manically giggle*
😂😂
Immediate Dr. Evil laugh!
@@xgxfhzxfuhfjgfhgf 1:31:30
Batman interviews joker
thanks for the laugh
spot on
🤣😂
Lmao. Accurate
🤣🤣
George's breakdown of a first mover advantage in a two-sided market was spot on
U hot
@@tomokikuroki4913 lol
kind of. I still think people have familiarity biases, and if one particular company gets established first, some people will chose them based on brand recognition alone.
Time stamp?
@@80X20FitnessXFinance 1:17:37
Great interview, great combi to have Lex interview George.
George is not only very knowledgable and creative but also great in how open and honest he is. Assisted by Lex he was able to share how he reduced the problem to it essentials and by that he shared many years worth of thinking, analyzing and experimenting in this domain. All for free !
For anybody involved in driver assistance, autonomous driving or even just in management in the car industry this is a MUST watch interview.
Well spend 2 hours, thank you both George and Lex !
Was that 2 hours already? Amazing
"If you are working 12 hours a day you should be working smarter and not harder" - Geohot // Proceeds to stream coding for 10-12 hours straight
That is why he is way richer than avg folks
One thing I learned from this video is that I am dumb as a rock
If one learns what one does not know that makes one quite intelligent. To be grounded in reality with an understanding and sense of direction.
The mere fact that you watched the video puts you way way ahead of actual dumb rocks :)
Humbleness and modesty are virtues many clueless people don't even understand what they are
Specially your avatar
Especially guys working in "AI" should really grounded in reality...
Lex, This is Guy I was Waiting for. You are awesom. Thank you so much, Lex.
What does your name mean? Is it some sort of joke? lol
@@OmarDelawar But not as fun as your Name " Omar" which means Fuck in our Launguage.
@@actualfactual8737 Dude, Lex does not give a Fuck about your Hate. You are just a Bitch Keyboard warrior. You don't have shit knowledge that Lex has. YOur Hates does not Mean anything dude. So, stop bitching.
Spectacular interview. George hotz has always been on another reality plain above us mere mortals.
I think this is one of the most instructive and thought-provoking interviews you've done thus far. I understand the need to find the idyllised machine that will enable constant learning at the equilibrium state. Although of course the idyllised 'machine' is the unsocialised or pre-socialised self that we know we don't yet know well enough.
"If I sell out to like make money. I sold out. It doesn't matter. What do I get? A yacht? I don't want a yacht." - George Hotz
This made me giggle so much. What an interesting young gentleman. It is not a stretch to share that George's passion for what interests him is infectious. I can see why Lex left George's Twitch stream on in the background while programming.
There was a press conference for Comma AI where George mentioned something like "hello yachts" when referring to the near future of his company, or perhaps the potential in investing in it.
Great quote: My MTP is Transforming telecommunication and transportation to create sustainable, salubrious & profitable business with zero fatalities, zero congestion & net zero carbon footprint. The 5th generation of transportation will be CASE (Connected, Automated, Shared and Electric Vehicles) but I think even more transformative will be 6th G - Virtual transportation with VR going from “it” to “bit” to save money, time and the planet.
There have been 4 Generations of transportation:
1G - Boats/Ships: The oldest boat ever found is ~10,000 years old.
2G - Trains: ~200 years
3G - Automobiles: ~130 years
4G - Planes: ~114 years
Author’s Note: there is a generation 0 of transportation which is biological transportation: foot or animal transportation.
Each new G of transportation has increased the use of GHG per mile. We are now going to change that trend by shifting to 2 new Gs of transportation.
5G - CASE - Connected, Automated, Shared and Electric Vehicles
6th G is Virtual transportation with VR - From “it” to “bit” to save money, time and the planet
Society fundamentally changed with each new transportation generation in the past. The next 10-25 years may be more transformative with 5G CASE and 6G VR than the last 4Gs of transportation. Today, transportation uses 25% of the World Energy resources and generates 27% of US greenhouse gases. If we are going to solve the problem of excess GHG, we are going to have to change the way people travel.
A 5G Communication System for a 5G Transportation System. www.linkedin.com/pulse/5g-communication-system-transportation-doug-hohulin/
Zeev Kirsh He's not going to sell out he's already battled and won against the US govt, demo'd the software to the Chinese govt, and Turned down an employment offer from Elon Musk in the tens of millions.
He's made the software open source and has also made an insane amount of money on hackerone.
He's currently writing his own programming language. He is not naive, he's a once in a life time mind.
Spoken like a bloke that knows he'll always be highly paid for the skills he has
This was a great conversation
Jabrils it was really unique, they weren’t afraid to push on each other’s ideas, George is obviously super brilliant and quirky but right on the edge of where he still comes off as very eloquent. Please have him on again. Also, thanks for your cool quirky unique videos Jabrils. Internet needs more of this energy
Yep, even though I understood maybe 5%. Fantastic!
@@FuriousImp we are always noobs at something
What you really want?
You should get on Tik Tok bro
THanks so much for interviewing George Hotz . He is so inspiring.
In a different universe Tarantino got into AI instead of movies! They called him hotz
Hahaha
Amazing comment! I thought the same way! Voice and intonation almost the same
Thought the same lol
@@FC_Dobbs48 different kind of intelligence. It's not apples to apples.
The Hotz
1:12:10 "Ok Mick Jagger" - Lex drops the act and starts saying what he’s actually thinking.
what does he mean when he says mc Jagger? I dont know anything about mcJagger as a person
@@norrow7047 Same lol I'm confused
Classic Lex.
@@norrow7047 honestly, probably just referring to some kind of celebrity attitude
@@norrow7047 Mick Jagger. Rolling Stones. They wrote the book on rock and roll attitude more or less. (Fuck you I won't play your game etc) should look the guy/band up
Lex Fridman, so patient. Props to you, sir.
This was one of the most amazing talks I've ever come across!
As a software engineer trying to continuously sharpen my skills, my thought process, and approach, this was super valuable.
what did you learn? And maybe applied in these 2 years?
Great opening question. We should start every conversation with "Do you think we are in a simulation?"
You’re right it gives a perspective for the rest of the conversation
@ModestDeity sure about that chief?
this man claims to have found the clock cycle and synchronization cycles....also how it relates to an information projection dimension. you guys should take a look at this....he also found a quantum computer language hidden as the the Jewish alphabet from a pre existing advanced civilization.....search "diehold foundation" they have a youtube channel. according to them this is a quantum sim with two dimensions one projector and the other projection universe.
@ModestDeity They were not talking about a *representation* of our universe per say, it was more literal. Is everything we know *a* simulation run by some thing? It's a serious possibility, if you were to think of the odds... Imagine in 3019; 'humans' have surpassed many milestones [energy, disease, ageing, ai, space flight, whatever, et cetera] what could simulations be useful for and how believable could they be to the beings inside them?
Then, realise how many simulations could be running simultaneously! Forget conspiracy, statistically it's more than likely.
@@EDcaseNO Our most immediate goal is to escape the simulation.
Damn, despite looking really tired you conduct this conversation amazingly! You guys know a lot about a lot of different topics and that showed up.
One of the bests in my opinion. Thank you!!
Ur hot
I just discovered your channel, really pleasant interview, I like that you're making your point, it makes the conversation spicier.
This would have to be one of the best insights into the self-driving world coming. Thanks, Lex, great work on this interview. George, thanks for the laymen break down. Great works gents!
This is by far the best interview done with g.hotz, salute 💯💯💯
This was so much fun Lex, thanks for doing it! Get George back on for a part 2 soon?
Amazing interview! Every aspect of it was professional and enjoyable. Thank you for sharing this! And keep up your great works!
George Hotz is brilliant and daring :) ... Nice.. I also love the way Lex handled the questioning
Say what you want about George and his demeanor; this was an interesting conversation! Lex was clearly challenged during this dialogue and that made it even more enjoyable. Love the Mick Jagger comment
Don't conflate a brief reflection and measured speech with "challenged".
The Hotz guy has more first hand experience because its his sole focus. So he uses specific jargon that Lex is either unfamiliar with or wants clarification for his audience. However, his systemic understanding of the business climate and the tangential factors that affect his business is wanting. Hotz is the smarter guy in the room but Lex is the wiser guy in the room and 1oz wisdom is worth a pound of knowledge.
Matt Acuff , I agree. First time for me to listen to him, but Lex is really thoughtful and is not easily swayed by the fancy or complex or intriguing idea from George. Really interesting discussion.
@@CoolIHandIMatt Well put!
I never clicked a video faster in my life. Keep it up Lex!
Bib necklace is
Same here
Hahaha. Me too.
FALSE!
Thank you for this interview. This channel is soooooooooooooo underrated. You got a subscriber.
Such different people but so similar in some ways, it’s really indescribable to explain the type of talk these two have. Truly amazing!
Another great interview. Thank you for all the hard work you put in to this!
Two smart guys talking about something their both interested in, rarely a bad time. I hope good things come your way you guys
Thank you lex. You are beautifully patient to make the communication keep flowing.
Would love a repeat of you interviewing Hotz Lex. You guys are great together this is vunderbar
Cleared everything to watch this one!
You two are really good to listen to. Different approach but both intelligent, down to earth, insightful, enthusiastic and very open minded.
Would love to hear more of you two in the future. I'm sure we will. Keep on the good work.
I have seen about ten of your videos so far and this one is the top of the list for me. The discussion related to the problems of full self driving were fascinating. Thanks Lex!!!!
These guys are a blast to listen too. Just subscribed. Looking forward to more about A.I., autonomous driving.
A.I. girlfriends 👀 now that's got my attention haha
F-ING GREAT interview!!! Thanksw to both of you!
Great conversation guys, thanks Lex for your awesome podcast
Best interview I've seen this year.
How haven't i found this podcast till now? Love both you guys! keep grinding Lex
George Hotz: "Oh Tesla is gonna win level 5, they really are." [39:22-39:27]
But no robotaxi in 2019 😭
Thanks cap
@@PhilippeLarcher They could launch robotaxi around Palo Alto if they wanted to transport employees for commuting. But elsewhere will take time.
@@jje984 see your point and it would be amazing if he were at Tesla. I think George is trying to do the everyman version I.e. Android version, that will be able to be fitted into all cars, not just Tesla's.
@@jje984 "IF" doing a lot of work in your comment. Far from clear that this learning model is correct, particularly if the data they're collecting isn't nearly of the resolution or type required to actually execute so-called "L5", which in my view it isn't. They need next and maybe next-squared generation hardware on these vehicles, along with a standard for car-to-car communication and safety systems. They're approximating reality within their virtual world, but heavily relying on human backup to make up for the data holes in their model. It will be a long time before a "self driving" car will be able to lock eyes with a real driver at a 4-way stop and figure out who goes first.
L5 automation in controlled environments - even certain metro environments - will come in a reasonable timeframe. Open environments - real world environments - hahahahaha - let's just say it will be a while before real cars are shipped without steering wheels. Closed environments basically means eliminating virtually all unstructured interaction between machines and humans. There's already a name for that environment, it's called a train system, and as long as you stay within that system, it will work just fine. I think the propagation of self-driving will pretty much be an exercise of extending these controlled environments, rather than extending real self driving capabilities.
This was really a great chat and George is way downer on earth then he likes to show. Max respect for you guys and all the best!
This is very refreshing being able to listen in on such a fabulous conversation
I may watch this whole interview again soon. One of the best I have ever listened to. Also the lighting makes it look like it was done in the 80's and regarding the 2020's. Like an interview with Flynn from the original Tron movie.
The best Lex Fridman interview. Or am my saying this for the second time..
This is nuts. Big ups for George. smooth all the way!
Amazing, deep conversation! Thank you for your efforts organising it
Thank you so much for having these brilliant interviews!
this is one of the most honest channels i've seen on youtube
Two of my favorite AI people. Can't wait to see what Hotz comes up with in the next few years. Dude is brilliant.
One of the best interviews on this channel.
One of the most fascinating conversations I've listened to - for longer than I can remember...
Yes, from among the thousands of useless stuff we see everyday, I’m so extremely happy to watch this nugget of gold. Very thankful for this channel.
Wow, what an amazing interview. Not sure I was ready for that last 10 minutes though...
For being a younger person, Lex has some great interviewing skills, well beyond his years so to speak.
Loved it! great interview. Good job Lex. It's such a rare thing to see two people discuss something they really are enthusiastic about.
You are a gifted interviewer, Lex. Asked the questions I was thinking. Thanks!
George is dope, I am using his comma.ai devices for a vehicle diagnostic tool that I wrote, Muchiniwam.
I'm an old mathematician/programmer, it was very educational, thank you! Спасибо, было очень интересно!
1:20 onward is brilliant conversation -- thank you both
The last ten minutes of this podcast are mindblowing, scary as hell and kind of iconic.
What a great podcast, thanks Lex!
this guy's mind is chaotically beautiful
There are these videos of Feyman which are like gold right now -- I figure if we knew, every waking moment of the mans life should have been catalogued. I'm inclined to think the same with George because 'the errors of a great mind are still more interesting than the discoveries of a mediocre mind' - this entire thing was like watching two thoroughbreds!
Not to be missed podcast brilliant... .... Any one vaguely interested in autonomous driving must watch. What an interview.... You got George to explain at a level that we mortals could just understand,, many thanjs.. Please get Musk and Hotz interviewed together on the subject of autonomous driving algorithms would be so cool 😎
GeoHotz the GOAT.
From Jailbreaking iPhones to self driving AI, have a ton of respect for the dude.
'I want to build the AlphaGo of driving' - George Hotz, 2019
He said that he would have it done in 2016
@@jootai Was there even AlphaGo in 2016?
If you understanding what George was referring to you knew he was going to mention Alpha Go.
@@UnbenutzerKanalname Early 2016 is when it beat everyone, I was literally taking my first (and phenomenal and world changing) reinforcement learning class AS THEY PROVED E2E DEEP RL TO THE WORLD. It was exhilarating.
He also promised he will second Tesla only by two years.
GH is one of the very few people who should get paid for giving interview, this was so exciting and inspiring to watch.
This was my best acid youtube binges. 💙 how this guy just disses everyone on his podcasts with a straight face.. 😂😂
The podcast episode I didn’t know I wanted to see
Absolutely love how it started with a question about if we are living in a simulation.
Well done Lex! Glad you got George on here--good to hear what he has to say and get an idea of his character!
I'm so glad this is a 2 hour podcast
51:45 - He definitely watched Sentdex's GTA self driving car streams
Ryan fuck ya dude
That was good! Hotz is such an interesting person.
AMAZING episode. Thanks so much for doing these Lex!
I am not a patrion yet (to any youtube channel), but you make me storngly consider looking more into it :)
Loved this interview
"autonomous driving is a human behavior problem; understanding what other drivers are going to do" brilliant! great discussion!
It’s difficult to grasp how unbelievably intelligent George is.
Lex Fridman is also pretty smart himself, but even he has a hard time following George's train of thoughts.
You can tell by the haircut XD
Imagine a business developer who understands him though
Sal1981 , I think it’s more of George is talking about a topic he has thought of a lot while Lex as the interviewer has to have a broader set of knowledge.
@@shorttravelvideos9649 Also if you notice, George has a habit of using unnecessarily rare words to describe basic things. This makes Lex often ask: What is that? And you get the impression that George is teaching Lex things, when in reality it's just him using rare words or unnecessary abbreviations.
I value both of your intellects and personalities. This podcast has a great dynamic thank you!
Thank you both I massively enjoyed this conversation, I was only thinking recently that L2 is all I would personally want, as I am happy to manually drive most of the time, as it can be fun and part of the game of life, and when needed turned on for the boring motorways and traffic jams. I also find it interesting as hard as your working to make self-drive work better, engineers are making the racing sims as real to life as possible.
Thanks Lex for another amazing episode with your precious time! It made me laugh several times watching you two both 10X engineers from completely opposite spectrum of personalities having an intelligent conversation. George is definitely an incredible genius. Please also get some more sleep Lex with all your hard work! Much appreciated!
George was an excellent guest, his occasional maniacal laughter had me going lol
Compiler Design has been one of my favorite classes so far
Kept me engaged and intrigued for two hours. Great interview!
I've been waiting for this one!
I'm sorry to say that I had low expectations of this interview because, unfortunately, I'm the kind of person who finds George's chaotic style too confusing. I'm glad I chose to watch the interview though. Brilliant exchange between two very smart people. 😊 Keep up the great work, Lex.
Wow! It's fun that I find him pretty coherent most of the time. Agreed good stuff haha
Thanks for this podcast. Very insightful and informative.
one of my favorite conversations ever
He's adorable. I love his enthusiasm. I want to be this passionate and intelligent in tech one day ❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 great interview. Love your interviwing skills.