Thanks Bro! You got me curious on the moonshine, was thinking of getting a TS9 after giving mine to my son, now going to start checking out the moonshine for my worship board. thanks for the video.
For sure! The Moonshine is great, it's closer to an TS808 circuit, which I tend to prefer. I have the older version that has less options but you might be able to find used for a little cheaper. Happy hunting!
Bro! Thanks for saying something about that. I wasn't sure if that was actually helpful, because I haven't had many (if any) comments about that. Best of luck working on your board!
@@GettinBetterWithDave Same here Dave. I’m exclusively looking at your budget friendly board and I appreciate you adding that into the video. I’m digging all my gear out from 15+ years ago as I’m rejoining a worship team and this video is giving me a great baseline knowledge.
Dude vst amps/pedals are the exact same and way cheaper. you can program your sounds and with a click of a botton from you laptop can change them. Thats a lot of equpiment though lol your really good too.
@@RobRuffMusic for sure! I love the Neural DSP stuff in the studio. One of these days I’ll be brave enough to use a laptop live but I’m not quite there yet. Haha thanks for the comment!
Heck yes! I've tried to replace it a couple times but it always makes its way back on to the board. haha They really are a great brand that did not get the credit they deserved. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you! This video is very helpful. Your tone is very nice! It is great that you showed similar tones on a cheaper pedal board. (I think a multi effects unit is a great option.)
I switch pickups throughout the video, sometimes on camera, sometimes between shots. As a rule of thumb my aggressive/Rock sounds are bridge and my ambient/sweet sounds are neck pickup. I hope that helps.
Great video! Stumbled upon it in my “suggested videos” and it caught my attention. Love the sounds you use, even gave me a couple ideas to add to my rig, so I appreciate you taking the time! Especially love the “squeaky clean” with the verb and delay-liked your use of the delay especially. Gotta say that I really love using cleaner tones with maybe a *little* drive (if not just clean altogether), but then my ceramic pickups kinda make everything sound a little hotter unless I roll my volume down a little anyway haha. But something about the cleaner tones with some longer hall or church verb, some echo or delay, just gets me. Great video again, blessings bro!
Thanks very much for the kind words! Glad you dig the sounds and it's inspired some things for you to try with your rig! That's my goal here! Keep rocking those sweet cleans bro!
Nice! Like the finger raking picking method. From the video description it would seem that you’re running the Dunlop volume after the amp sim on each board, does the Volume X work well for you in that spot? And are you using the tuner out!? (Gasp) I’m shopping for a volume pedal for either after drives or after Dream and that one is one of the contenders.
Yes, I currently have the vol after amps. Technically it should probably go after drive before the amp but I didn't notice much difference having it there. I previously had the amp last in the chain and moving that to go before the wet effects was a lot bigger sound change. This current chain has been working well for me. and yes, using the tuner out. It's actually usable the Vol X because the y used a better rated pot, from what I understand. I've tried with the tuner out and without and can't hear the difference. I would recommend the Vol X, It's not a perfect pedal, I have had to do some tinkering with it here and there but I have been able to do the work myself and have not had to send it in to fix a string or something. Thanks for the comment!
Im trying to learn how to play love on the line by hillsong, but I dont know what effects they use on that song does anyone know what pedals the guitar player used
I can't find anything with the exact pedals but what I could here from the Hillsong guitar tutorials was all different amounts of Delay, Reverb and Drive.. Except for the Guitar two video has a Reverse Delay in the beginning of the song. That's all I could find.
Greetings from Arizona! Great question, Marco! I think it's easier to learn guitar pedals one at a time, because you dive deeper and try more things with that one pedal. If you're running multi effects you may be temped to just jump to a different sound too soon because you don't like it in the first 30 seconds of messing with it. That said, multi pedals have to ability to change a bunch of things all at once, that requires a pressing a few foot switches on a traditional pedalboard. I don't mind that, but it's a deal breaker for some people. I like trying new pedals and changing things up with individual pedals. but that just my person preference.
Que tal, Marco! Wanted to add to Dave’s great advice. Coming from a someone who has used both of them, I would say that it depends on your preference in some areas. For one, will you be traveling often? If so, it’s MUCH easier to have a multi-effects processor than a pedal board. Traveling with a full pedal board can be a really scary thing sometimes (with how airlines treat people’s things these days). Also, pedal boards tend to be much more expensive to put together, as you have to buy individual pedals, the board itself that you put your pedals on, patch cables, the power supply, etc… also, if you will be playing worship, and you want to play swells on your guitar, you might want to also buy a volume/expression pedal as well… while with a multi-effects processor, you have all of that digitally. Most multi effects processors come with expression pedals on them that you can use as volume, wah, or other things. With pedals, like Dave said, you can take the time to learn each pedal, each effect, and really get to understand how they work. You can do that with most multi-effect processors, but to some people it may be confusing. I have found that there are some great multi-effects pedals at really good prices (about $2,500 MXN), like the Valteon GP-100 or the NUX MG-300 (around $2,800 MXN), and they are small enough to take anywhere easily, they have great amp simulations and effects already built in, and you can even add sounds to them from a computer. Many of these multi effects pedals these days sound almost as good, if not as good, as what you can get in pedals. With pedals, most of these pedals even in the simple board he has (like the Boss OD-3, the driver pedal he has-a really essential pedal) start over $2,500 MXN on Amazon. So that can get expensive really quickly when you buy individual pedals. So it depends on if you want to take the time to buy good pedals for a pedalboard which is a great way to go, or if you’d like to get a multi-effects processor that you can start with and get into the world of effects. There are also many great videos here on TH-cam that show you how to use them. I’d say Dave’s advice is great, as you can sometimes skip from one thing to another and not learn as you would with pedals, but with multi effects processors, you can still learn about effects well, especially if you take the time to search how to use them. Both are great options, it just depends on how you would like to go. I hope this helped! Dios te bendiga, hermano!
@@ianmorales7757 I totally agree! It's a preference thing. But Travel is something I have not thought about, Flying with a Multi FX would be much easier and less that the airlines can ruin. Good thoughts!
You don't use any delay for your swells? I find it makes it much easier to maintain the swell for longer. Also, I loved the pad sounds by turning the tone knob down. Definately going to use that.
I have leaned more on delay for swells in the past but I like how smooth the reverb trails are for swells. That said, I do have delay on when I'm swelling but my reverb is doing all the heavy lifting. Thanks for the comment!
This is the way things are now, I go over my whole board the way it is today in this video. th-cam.com/video/N1xpfkBvNMw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dy4sgQqukT43PNsx
This is the way things were in this 5 guitar tones video. Comp>Fuzz>Moonshine(TS)>Lightspeed>Dream 65>Vol(tuner out)>De7 Delay>MD-500>Halo Delay>RV-500
Edited presets. It sounds great but I'm realizing I don't like the way you switch presets in a live setting. I plan to swap it out soon. Thanks for the comment!
@@DeloreanDave haha! For real! I’m actually considering a TC plethora x3 to replace the Halo and the MD-500. I was using the Alter ego x4 before I got the halo. I miss some of those sounds.
Sure! From start to finish: Mooer Yellow Comp, Ibanez TS-9, Boss OD-3, Joyo American Sound, Dunlop Volume X, Flamma Mod, TC Flashback, Boss RV-6. Powered with a Voodoo Labs PP2+ and it's on a pedal train.
Hey thanks for the comment. I use different reverb types. Some plate, hall and spring. Seems like everyone uses a Big Sky. I was hoping to be different. For worse or for better.
Do you always exclusively use pedals for your drive tone? Because that first tone would sound nice as a matchless or vox style amp getting pushed a bit too hard. But then you can't use the squeeky clean without changing your amp model.
I use pedals to get the dirty sound for that very reason, so I don't have to change the app sound to go full clean. It's not the only way to do things but that works for me.
Hey thanks! No amps used. I didn't talk about the UAFX Dream 65, it's the black 2 foot switch pedal, top right of my main board. That's always on and providing my amp sound. Then the light speed and moonshine (tube screamer) are the add overdrive to the amp sound. In some situations I would run an amp modeling pedal at the end of my chain but I've liked having the Dream before all my wet effects.
I've been playing guitar for worship at my church for 19 years. Absolutly nothing in this is needed. When I started I had no pedals. Now I have too many to count and I just use 5 pedals. A wah to accent a bend during a solo, a drive pedal, chorus, delay ( analog for "normal" delay and tape for some frippertronics) and a reverb.
Wow! Thank you for serving the Church faithful for so many years! I'm sorry my video didn't help you much. My goals are more to help newer players that are learning, not as much seasoned players, such as yourself. Thanks for letting me know though. Have a good one!
So Ive been leading worship for…. Wait for it…. 34 years. I get what the OP was saying and kudos for the years of faithfulness - but I APPRECIATE your perspective Dave! Your tones are excellent.
Worship is an expression of love towards ones savior. It's treated like a genre because a lot of the Church uses similar musical styles to connect people together in times of worship. To call worship a genre is an oversimplification, like calling the earth a big rock.. it's a bit more than that. Worship does not need to be great-than, it only needs to point out that Christ is greater than I. Thanks for watching
I’m hearing explosions in the sky with that RV-6 🔥
Heck yes! Love that. Thanks for the comment!
I haven't listened to them in soooo long. I'm gonna have to add that back to my listening.
For any up and coming worship guitar players, 1st: Learn your parts! 2nd: The Boss GX100 is a great all in one pedal option to get you started.
Thanks for the tip! I'll have to check that out!
Great technique that finger raking picking!!
Thanks! I've used that a lot. It's a pretty sweet trick
Thanks Bro! You got me curious on the moonshine, was thinking of getting a TS9 after giving mine to my son, now going to start checking out the moonshine for my worship board. thanks for the video.
For sure! The Moonshine is great, it's closer to an TS808 circuit, which I tend to prefer. I have the older version that has less options but you might be able to find used for a little cheaper. Happy hunting!
Thanks for using the budget pedal board as an example as well!!!! Very helpful for those of us just getting started. 💪🏻
Bro! Thanks for saying something about that. I wasn't sure if that was actually helpful, because I haven't had many (if any) comments about that. Best of luck working on your board!
@@GettinBetterWithDave Same here Dave. I’m exclusively looking at your budget friendly board and I appreciate you adding that into the video. I’m digging all my gear out from 15+ years ago as I’m rejoining a worship team and this video is giving me a great baseline knowledge.
@@larsonisz8771 That's awesome! I'm so glad to hear that!
Dude vst amps/pedals are the exact same and way cheaper. you can program your sounds and with a click of a botton from you laptop can change them. Thats a lot of equpiment though lol your really good too.
@@RobRuffMusic for sure! I love the Neural DSP stuff in the studio. One of these days I’ll be brave enough to use a laptop live but I’m not quite there yet. Haha thanks for the comment!
Great video! It brings me so much joy to see the older visual sound pedals on boards!!!! They’re getting more and more rare
Heck yes! I've tried to replace it a couple times but it always makes its way back on to the board. haha They really are a great brand that did not get the credit they deserved. Thanks for the comment!
I used to use the Jekyll and Hyde pedal in church. I let someone use it and they blew it up. They plugged into an 18 volt power supply.
@@willwetherington No!! that's awful! What a great pedal though!
Great insights! I will definitely use them. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed👍🏼
@@jodyinalaska1 awesome! Thanks for subscribing! More good stuff on the way!
Thank you! This video is very helpful. Your tone is very nice! It is great that you showed similar tones on a cheaper pedal board. (I think a multi effects unit is a great option.)
Glad you liked it! Thanks for your encouragement!
I may have missed you saying this, but are all of these sounds on the bridge pickup?
I switch pickups throughout the video, sometimes on camera, sometimes between shots. As a rule of thumb my aggressive/Rock sounds are bridge and my ambient/sweet sounds are neck pickup. I hope that helps.
Great job with the budget pedals
Thanks! I thought that would be helpful
Great stuff!
Thanks very much!
Great video, Dave.
Having a good amp or IR pedal like the Strymon Iridum, Tonex, etc helps a lot too.
For sure, that's where it all starts. Gotta have it!
Great video! Stumbled upon it in my “suggested videos” and it caught my attention. Love the sounds you use, even gave me a couple ideas to add to my rig, so I appreciate you taking the time! Especially love the “squeaky clean” with the verb and delay-liked your use of the delay especially. Gotta say that I really love using cleaner tones with maybe a *little* drive (if not just clean altogether), but then my ceramic pickups kinda make everything sound a little hotter unless I roll my volume down a little anyway haha. But something about the cleaner tones with some longer hall or church verb, some echo or delay, just gets me. Great video again, blessings bro!
Thanks very much for the kind words! Glad you dig the sounds and it's inspired some things for you to try with your rig! That's my goal here!
Keep rocking those sweet cleans bro!
can you do with guitar rig 5?
Done watching. Nice content bro. You earned a sub
Aw! Thanks very much! I appreciate that! 😊
Nice! Like the finger raking picking method.
From the video description it would seem that you’re running the Dunlop volume after the amp sim on each board, does the Volume X work well for you in that spot? And are you using the tuner out!? (Gasp)
I’m shopping for a volume pedal for either after drives or after Dream and that one is one of the contenders.
Yes, I currently have the vol after amps. Technically it should probably go after drive before the amp but I didn't notice much difference having it there. I previously had the amp last in the chain and moving that to go before the wet effects was a lot bigger sound change. This current chain has been working well for me.
and yes, using the tuner out. It's actually usable the Vol X because the y used a better rated pot, from what I understand. I've tried with the tuner out and without and can't hear the difference. I would recommend the Vol X, It's not a perfect pedal, I have had to do some tinkering with it here and there but I have been able to do the work myself and have not had to send it in to fix a string or something.
Thanks for the comment!
Im trying to learn how to play love on the line by hillsong, but I dont know what effects they use on that song does anyone know what pedals the guitar player used
I can't find anything with the exact pedals but what I could here from the Hillsong guitar tutorials was all different amounts of Delay, Reverb and Drive.. Except for the Guitar two video has a Reverse Delay in the beginning of the song. That's all I could find.
Great video. Greetings from Mexico. One question, is it better to get multiple pedals or just get one multi effect processor pedal?
Greetings from Arizona! Great question, Marco! I think it's easier to learn guitar pedals one at a time, because you dive deeper and try more things with that one pedal. If you're running multi effects you may be temped to just jump to a different sound too soon because you don't like it in the first 30 seconds of messing with it. That said, multi pedals have to ability to change a bunch of things all at once, that requires a pressing a few foot switches on a traditional pedalboard.
I don't mind that, but it's a deal breaker for some people. I like trying new pedals and changing things up with individual pedals. but that just my person preference.
Que tal, Marco! Wanted to add to Dave’s great advice.
Coming from a someone who has used both of them, I would say that it depends on your preference in some areas. For one, will you be traveling often? If so, it’s MUCH easier to have a multi-effects processor than a pedal board. Traveling with a full pedal board can be a really scary thing sometimes (with how airlines treat people’s things these days). Also, pedal boards tend to be much more expensive to put together, as you have to buy individual pedals, the board itself that you put your pedals on, patch cables, the power supply, etc… also, if you will be playing worship, and you want to play swells on your guitar, you might want to also buy a volume/expression pedal as well… while with a multi-effects processor, you have all of that digitally. Most multi effects processors come with expression pedals on them that you can use as volume, wah, or other things.
With pedals, like Dave said, you can take the time to learn each pedal, each effect, and really get to understand how they work. You can do that with most multi-effect processors, but to some people it may be confusing. I have found that there are some great multi-effects pedals at really good prices (about $2,500 MXN), like the Valteon GP-100 or the NUX MG-300 (around $2,800 MXN), and they are small enough to take anywhere easily, they have great amp simulations and effects already built in, and you can even add sounds to them from a computer. Many of these multi effects pedals these days sound almost as good, if not as good, as what you can get in pedals. With pedals, most of these pedals even in the simple board he has (like the Boss OD-3, the driver pedal he has-a really essential pedal) start over $2,500 MXN on Amazon. So that can get expensive really quickly when you buy individual pedals. So it depends on if you want to take the time to buy good pedals for a pedalboard which is a great way to go, or if you’d like to get a multi-effects processor that you can start with and get into the world of effects. There are also many great videos here on TH-cam that show you how to use them.
I’d say Dave’s advice is great, as you can sometimes skip from one thing to another and not learn as you would with pedals, but with multi effects processors, you can still learn about effects well, especially if you take the time to search how to use them. Both are great options, it just depends on how you would like to go.
I hope this helped!
Dios te bendiga, hermano!
@@ianmorales7757 I totally agree! It's a preference thing. But Travel is something I have not thought about, Flying with a Multi FX would be much easier and less that the airlines can ruin. Good thoughts!
You don't use any delay for your swells? I find it makes it much easier to maintain the swell for longer.
Also, I loved the pad sounds by turning the tone knob down. Definately going to use that.
I have leaned more on delay for swells in the past but I like how smooth the reverb trails are for swells. That said, I do have delay on when I'm swelling but my reverb is doing all the heavy lifting.
Thanks for the comment!
first!..and I am not even a guitar player.. ;)
All are welcome here. Even drummers! ;)
could you send the chaining of your pedal with lightspeed? is lightspeed first > TS type > Fuzz>
Sure Thing! Comp>Fuzz>Moonshine(TS)>Lightspeed>Iron Horse (RAT)>ToneX>Vol(tuner out)>De7 Delay>Plethora X3>RV-500
This is the way things are now, I go over my whole board the way it is today in this video. th-cam.com/video/N1xpfkBvNMw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dy4sgQqukT43PNsx
This is the way things were in this 5 guitar tones video. Comp>Fuzz>Moonshine(TS)>Lightspeed>Dream 65>Vol(tuner out)>De7 Delay>MD-500>Halo Delay>RV-500
Nice! How are you using the Halo? Standard presets or edited?
Edited presets. It sounds great but I'm realizing I don't like the way you switch presets in a live setting. I plan to swap it out soon. Thanks for the comment!
@@GettinBetterWithDave ah okay what else you going to consider? maybe wait for a new timeline? haha
@@DeloreanDave haha! For real! I’m actually considering a TC plethora x3 to replace the Halo and the MD-500. I was using the Alter ego x4 before I got the halo. I miss some of those sounds.
whats your chain setup guide on the second pedalboard?
Sure! From start to finish: Mooer Yellow Comp, Ibanez TS-9, Boss OD-3, Joyo American Sound, Dunlop Volume X, Flamma Mod, TC Flashback, Boss RV-6. Powered with a Voodoo Labs PP2+ and it's on a pedal train.
What reverb pedal are you using? Not a big fan of it whatever you’re using. Sounds too metallic for me.
I guess I’m just use to the big sky. 🤷🏻♀️
Hey thanks for the comment. I use different reverb types. Some plate, hall and spring. Seems like everyone uses a Big Sky. I was hoping to be different. For worse or for better.
Do you always exclusively use pedals for your drive tone? Because that first tone would sound nice as a matchless or vox style amp getting pushed a bit too hard. But then you can't use the squeeky clean without changing your amp model.
I use pedals to get the dirty sound for that very reason, so I don't have to change the app sound to go full clean. It's not the only way to do things but that works for me.
Wait… I know this guy!
It's aMe, Dave!😊
It’s a me, Ryan Sloan!
@@the1trueporkchop Oh hey buddy! How are you?!
Great Video! Are you really not going into any amps!? could you explain what you're doing tone wise; is the Light-Speed an amp modeler or something?
Hey thanks! No amps used. I didn't talk about the UAFX Dream 65, it's the black 2 foot switch pedal, top right of my main board. That's always on and providing my amp sound. Then the light speed and moonshine (tube screamer) are the add overdrive to the amp sound. In some situations I would run an amp modeling pedal at the end of my chain but I've liked having the Dream before all my wet effects.
Also on the cheap board the amp sounds is the Joyo American.
Correct. It does the same job but at a fraction of the price. haha
@@GettinBetterWithDave Thanks so much! sounds awesome
@@jameswatson7790 No problem! Thanks for the kind words 😊
I've been playing guitar for worship at my church for 19 years. Absolutly nothing in this is needed. When I started I had no pedals. Now I have too many to count and I just use 5 pedals. A wah to accent a bend during a solo, a drive pedal, chorus, delay ( analog for "normal" delay and tape for some frippertronics) and a reverb.
Wow! Thank you for serving the Church faithful for so many years! I'm sorry my video didn't help you much. My goals are more to help newer players that are learning, not as much seasoned players, such as yourself. Thanks for letting me know though. Have a good one!
@@GettinBetterWithDaveI love your response. God Bless
So Ive been leading worship for…. Wait for it…. 34 years. I get what the OP was saying and kudos for the years of faithfulness - but I APPRECIATE your perspective Dave! Your tones are excellent.
And I see your discovered the Halo delay too. What a wonderful delay, right?
@@bdotson1 34! That's fantastic! and thank you for the kind words!
Worship is an inferior music genre.
Convince me wrong.
Worship is an expression of love towards ones savior. It's treated like a genre because a lot of the Church uses similar musical styles to connect people together in times of worship. To call worship a genre is an oversimplification, like calling the earth a big rock.. it's a bit more than that.
Worship does not need to be great-than, it only needs to point out that Christ is greater than I.
Thanks for watching