Take home message 1) repent (turn away from sin) 2) do not look back (in all ways physically spiritually and mentally) 3) heed gods warning direction and discipline 4) god is justice 5) pray for your own life and for others to be saved - place your belief and hand ur heart over to jesus christ the gift given to redeem us of our sin
Where does it say anything about homosexuality? Lot gave his young virgin daughters to strangers and then the daughters were impregnated by LOT. Please tell the REAL story
Then y should they repent if he's not gonna forgive religion is wierd to understand, thought God was for the ones who needed him not the ones that r goodie goodies, but I guess I'm goin to hell I'm not evil or yucky but i have do and will sin without even Knowing at times
@@williammejia5951 Religion isn’t really what God and his word is. Its just the truth of our lives and his creation. Words from the creator. Hes not only for the goodie goodies , he chastises and disciplines his children. Jesus did say there will be more joy in heaven for 1 sinner that repents than 99 who did not need repentance. He is for everyone of his children man ! You’re not condemned to hell but you should repent no matter the Depth of your sins. Ask God to show you all your sins and convict you. Much Love and God bless
Even if they were not righteous why did they deserve to die? “If they do not change their lives, God will sharpen his sword; he will string his bow and take aim. He has prepared his deadly weapons; he has made his flaming arrows. There are people who think up evil and plan trouble and tell lies. - Psalm 7:12-14. When is it to late to repent and turn against sin
My belief is that God only spared Lot and his family because of their relation to Abraham. I believe that Lot and his daughters were no better then the angry Mob that tried to have sex with the Angels at Lot’s home. Lot is willing to give up his own daughters to the mob to subdue their anger. And as a consequence Lot’s daughters later impregnate themselves by taking advantage of Lot. To me this is a karmic consequence of Lot allowing his daughters to get raped by the Mob, thus he is later raped by his own daughters. Originally Lot pleaded with the Angels to retreat to a nearby city rather then the cave once Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. The Angels allowed Lot’s request, yet he heads to the cave anyways, despite wanting to go to the city.
Agreed, if Abraham had been allowed to continue pleading and got God down to 1, the same would have happened. If God killed even one righteous person that would have been murder, and God couldn't have done it.
God was going to send judgment upon Sodom and Gomorrah (S&G) but Abraham bargained with God that if 10 righteous folks were found in S&G, then God would not destroy the cities. So, according to what is written, God sent his angels, not to save Lot, but to see if 10 righteous were there, and if so, God would not destroy the cities. Genesis 18: 32 And he (ABRAHAM) said, Oh let not the Lord (GOD) be angry, and I (ABRAHAM) will speak yet but this once: Peradventure TEN SHALL BE FOUND THERE. And he (GOD) said, I (GOD) will not destroy it (the cities) for ten's sake. 33 And the Lord (GOD) went his way, as soon as he (GOD) had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place. So, the bargain was that the cities would be spared if 10 righteous folks were found there, i.e., even though the cities were inhospitable, the cities would still be spared if 10 righteous folks were there. That means that inhospitality was not why God destroyed the cities - the cities would have not been destroyed, although inhospitable, IF 10 RIGHTEOUS FOLKS COULD BE FOUND THERE. So, the angels did not go down to S&G to save Lot, but instead, they went there SPECIFICALLY to find at least 10 righteous folks. How do we know this to be true? Genesis 19:2 And he (LOT) said, Behold now, my lords (THE ANGELS), turn in, I pray you, into your servant's (LOT'S) house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they (THE ANGELS) said, Nay; but we (THE ANGELS) will abide in the street all night. In other words, the angels were there to find 10 righteous folks, that was their mission from GOD, not to stay with Lot all night. Ten righteous folks and the cities were to be spared, less than 10 righteous folks and the cities were to be destroyed. That let's the reader know that it was not the inhospitality of the cities that caused the destruction of the cities, but something else. What was the something else? Genesis 19: 4 But before they lay (THE ANGELS) down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5 And they (THE MEN OF THE CITY) called unto Lot, and said unto him (LOT), Where are the men (THE ANGELS) which came in to thee (LOT) this night? bring them (THE ANGELS) out unto us (THE MEN OF THE CITY), THAT WE (THE MEN OF THE CITY) MAY KNOW THEM (THE ANGELS). 6 And Lot went out at the door unto them (THE MEN OF THE CITY), and shut the door after him, 7 And said, I pray you, BRETHREN (MEN OF THE CITY), DO NOT SO WICKEDLY. What were THE MEN OF THE CITY going to do that was considered to be so WICKED? Was it gang r*pe? Well, Lot offered his daughters to THE MEN OF THE CITY for their sexual pleasure. So, the wicked behavior that Lot was concerned about was not gang r*pe. It must have been the type of gang r*pe. Genesis 19: 8 Behold now, I (LOT) have two daughters which have not known man; let me (LOT), I (LOT) pray you, bring them out unto you (THE MEN OF THE CITY), AND DO YE (MEN OF THE CITY) TO THEM (LOT'S DAUGHTERS) AS IS GOOD IN YOUR EYES: only unto these MEN (THE ANGELS) do nothing. Lot understood that the men of the city wanted intimacy with men. Lot is a man. Why not offer himself? The men would have likely accepted that deal, too. 9 And they (THE MEN OF THE CITY) said ... now will we (THE MEN OF THE CITY) deal worse with thee (LOT), than with them (THE ANGELS). And they (THE MEN OF THE CITY) pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. That verse informs the reader that Lot (a man) was also on their intimacy menu, but not Lot's daughters. 12 And the men (THE ANGELS) said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: 13 For WE WILL DESTROY THIS PLACE, BECAUSE the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT. Notice, the angels never had a chance to check to see if 10 righteous folks abided in the cities. All of the men of the city were there at Lot's house, but there is no indication that any women were present. In other words, there could have been at least 10 righteous women in S&G which would have led to the cities not being destroyed. However, we never got to find this out because "the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT." In summary, the bargain was for at least 10 righteous folks, it does not say whether or not the 10 be all male, all female, or a mixture of the two sexes. This is not specified. From the reading, just 10 righteous folks were necessary for the cities not to be destroyed. Yes, inhospitality, and a few other things, brought the LORD'S attention to the city. But the LORD was willing to spare the city, although inhospitable, if at least 10 righteous folks resided there. We find that the angels never got the opportunity to look for 10 righteous folks because of the wicked SEXUAL behavior of the men of the city. Thus, "the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT." That is the BUT FOR or the THE ACTUAL CAUSE or THE REASON WHY the decision was made to destroy S&G. Again, "the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT."
It was that big of a deal. It was that sin that drove them to want to sexually assault the angels as well. However, ALL sin deserves that kind of judgment from God which is why we need Christ!
Yes it was that big of a deal! That's why it said all the men of Sodom from the oldest to the youngest every last one of them! You know it grows like wildfire. Just look at what has happened to this country since 2015! When your leaders are wicked/evil it Just Spreads to the citizens.
It was part of it, but not the complete reason like everyone is saying, there was sickening perversion, molestation, people not honoring hospitality, and it was children and women doing it to, the entire town was corrupt, and not following god’s plan, it was not homosexuality alone
You're right, SauceKay. Homosexuality wasn't the only reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. But it was the main reason which is why it is discussed in the narrative about Lot.
The New Testament says that homosexuality is a “shameful lust” (Romans 1:26), a “shameful act,” an abandonment of “natural relations” (Romans 1:27), a “wrongdoing” (1 Corinthians 6:9), and “sexual immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7). Homosexuality carries a “due penalty” (Romans 1:27), “is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:10), and is listed among the sins that bar people from the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Despite the attempts of some to downplay these verses, the Bible could not be clearer that homosexuality is a sin against God.
Then why did Lot's wife die? She just looked back at the city and she immediately turned into salt. She wasn't even directly told to not look back. That isn't justice.
@@punisherrafi6440 Not true. Never said that in the bible. She never even interacted much in the bible with anyone. She just died because she looked at sodom and gomorrah burn.
God definitely is kind to sinners by supplying them their daily needs, but God does not love wicked people who rebel against His holy law. “The aboastful shall not bstand before Your eyes; You hate all workers of iniquity.” Psalm 5:5
God not only hates the sinner, God hates the sinner in their sin. Many YT videos to confirm this. Steve. Lawson, PhD has a video on God hating the sinner in their sin, as does Paul Washer and RC Sproul.
God warning many years but I didn't obey gods voice and broken commandments did sexual sins, now disease came bedrest in home, lost my life, health, can God forgive me?
Hi, @iwantjesusinmylife. We are all guilty of breaking God’s laws. Because of this, we have earned the death penalty for our sins. Our only hope of escape from eternal torment is repentance and faith in Christ alone. God loves to save sinners and He will save you if you humble yourself and ask Him.
There is a song called sodom and Gomorrah and its soooo evil. I watched 30 seconds of it and had to turn it off. But i went and read the comments and everyone is praising the girl who made the song. Sooo disturbing.
It's a shame that you didn't listen to the whole thing cause it's a banger ❤ "Deuteronomy, givе my a$s a lobotomy That's sodomy, diggin' deep, archaeology My theology, I like to know that hе's watchin' me Fulfill me up like a prophecy, put the fear of God in me"
Lot was not righteous, brother. If you read you see lot was spared because of Abrahams righteousness. Lot sat in the city gate, meaning he was an elder there.
“And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.” (Genesis 18:32, KJV)
So even though he saved lots family they still ended up being sexually deviant by his daughters raping him... can someone explain why they are saved and considered righteous? It doesn't seem right...
@Future Infiniti yea I mean they went through all that stuff about the whole city being sexual deviants and they have to save lots family then they themselves end up not only raping a man but their own father... like is that not somehow even worse? Lol
@Future Infiniti God’s grace is never owed. Justice is owed-we all deserve justice which would end with all of us in hell. God extends grace through His Son, Jesus Christ to save us from hell. By definition, grace is granted as a gift. You don’t want God’s justice-you want His grace.
Hebrew plural is three or more Not two or more. So, Had Lot's three, or possibly more daughters been righteous that would have made ten. I think Abraham knew this and that is why he stopped negotiating at ten
Lot wasn't righteous either nor his family. God just had mercy on him because he was kin to Abraham. All Abraham's negotiations you don't think he begged God to spare his nephew and family? Why you think the angel said he couldn't do anything until he gets them out. Lot definitely wasn't righteous, Lot was a selfish man, Lot was greedy, Lot was disrespectful to Abraham, Lot was a hypocrite, Lot practices incest with his daughters, Lot was far from righteous. To those who are truly saved and you have unsaved family members keep interceding for them God may saved them from his next round of judgement that's coming.
@@anas-432 ohhhhh yeah the religion that teaches it's ok to marry little girls then I can see how Lot the drunk and incest righteous man is your role model.
Hi, Daughter of Zion. You're right. Lot wasn't inherently righteous. But he was called righteous in Scripture ("...and if He rescued righteous Lot..." (2 Peter 2:7). Also, looking through Genesis, Abraham, out of love for his nephew, negotiated with God to spare the "righteous" in the city. Lot was a drunkard but I don't think he practiced incest with his daughters. The Bible clearly states that "...he did not know when she lay down or when she arose" (Genesis 19:33,35). He was grossly taken advantage of by his daughters, though he is to blame for his drunkenness.
Hi, anas 447. No, the Bible is the very Word of God. It is the purest thing we can physically touch in this world. th-cam.com/video/9PCKLWLdQ68/w-d-xo.html
@@DoulosPodcast I know that the word righteous in the Torah meant something totally different for that culture back then. I can go feed the homeless and I would be called a righteous person. Doing the right thing all the time why living amongst wickedness is why Noah was called righteous. Per Lot in my opinion he wasn't all that righteous it was only because of Abraham that he was spared per the angel who said so. Lot was disobedient, Lot was greedy, Lot was a drunk, and no telling what else Lot was about when he tried to judge the men of Sodom and they reminded him how dare you live amongst us and yet you try and be our judge. Lots character is very much displayed in the type of man he was. And if he was sooooo righteous according to your opinion that he even was willing to sacrifice his daughters. So do your home work some more on the story. Islam can never understand this because their beliefs are anti Christ, they don't believe in salvation, the Holy Ghost nor that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a son called his name Jesus born of the Virgin Mary. Oh yeah and keep in mind that Abraham's negotiations was for God to spare the cities if he could find 5 righteous. Ummm the inhabitants failed the test that would include Lot as well. He was spared only because of Abraham. True believers of the Christ remember some family members can be spared through God mercy because of your obedience to him. You are the blessing in your family if your team Jesus!
@@DoulosPodcast Lot was so righteous that he offered up his two daughters to be raped and later got drunk, had sex with each of them on consecuitive nights and impregnated them
Lot was righteous and so we’re his daughters right? So why did he offer his virgin daughters to a mob with rape on their minds and why did his daughters get him drunk and lay with him? This was the family God saved? This was God’s ‘justice’ and ‘holiness’. Have a day off people.
“Righteous” doesn’t always mean “perfect” in the Bible. Obviously, the gross immoral acts that Lot and his daughters did were not righteous acts. However, compared to God’s perfect holiness, the sins you and I have committed aren’t all that different. Since God is God, He can save whom He wants by His mercy and He can damn whom He wants by His justice. The only way to receive grace and mercy is to turn from our sin and trust in His Son, Jesus Christ, for salvation.
Genesis 19:4-5 says, "...the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young...and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, 'Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them." Did they intend to rape the angels? Yes, but they were men seeking to do that with other men--old and young men alike showing how pervasive homosexuality was in Sodom.
@@DoulosPodcast so John is gay, but billy wants to rape him. The town gets destroyed. The town is destroyed because John is gay? 😂 moving on along since we are here. You mean to tell me Lot walks away and is praised for being righteous after offering up his daughters to be rape? But Lot gets destroyed for having a natural human reaction by looking back as it was considered disobeying God? God didn’t even tell her, man told her. S/n I hate how women were treated in the Bible. She was being told what to do by man. We never hear Lot being condemned for offering his daughters. But later on, his daughters sleep with him. 🤦🏾♂️😩 I can’t believe I fell for what was told to me for 40 years. Glad I have a mind if my own. All ppl have to do is read.
The town was destroyed because it was full of wickedness as Genesis 18:20 says. Lot was never praised for offering his daughters up to sexual deviants. He was considered just not because of his good deeds or his sins but because God showed him mercy. Woman are image bearers of God so they have equal worth in the eyes of God. However, men and women have different roles. God is the Creator of us all so He determines what is right in the family and society.
What we know about Lot peace be upon him, that he spent a lot of time and years trying to bring his village people to right path (as much as like any other prophet and messenger sent from God), but they didn’t until the last moments when the angels came to Lots to tell him what God Almighty sent them to do… and told him to take the believers only with him from his family and other villagers, except his wife that she is not one of the (cause she tolerated and accepted what their sinners do and she was the one who went to the villagers to tell them about the new visitors so she betrayed Lot) And when they knew they came to Lot wanting to get to the strangers visitors to do what they want to do with them insisting on their ways and corrupted mentally/mortalities and beliefs They have had A lot of sins, the main big sin is their homosexuality If just for that they got the wrath God put them to Homosexuality is one of the BIG SINs And we believe in that as muslims
Hi, @Phoenixica. Thanks for the comments. Although the Bible doesn't give us any indication that Lot nor his wife engaged in preaching against the wickedness of the city, it does tell us that Lot tried to warn his sons-in-law (Genesis 19:14, KJV). Sodom and Gomorrah were wicked cities and God decided to destroy them for their sin. Homosexuality is definitely a pronounced sin--as Paul writes in Romans, it is against nature. Ultimately, though, every sin deserves the judgment Sodom and Gomorrah received, which is why our only hope of escape is in God's Son, Jesus Christ.
@@DoulosPodcast thank you for your reply, Yes it is a sin indeed, from Quran it tells us a lot of details, about what their main sin (homosexuality etc) and that their wicked acts and beliefs and Lot pbuh was sent with a message from God, even in the time when the wrath is about to begin the two angels sent from God went first to Abraham to give him the news about that he will have a son and the other news was that they are heading to Lots village to do what God sent them to do. So yes its fascinating to read and hear these stories from reliable sources To take notes and knowledge from them And for sure the only hope for us all to be safe in this trembling world is to be closer to the Creator the one who sent all prophets and messengers 🙏🏻 May God protect us and all of our beloved my friend
The Creator sent His Son, the greatest Prophet, Jesus Christ, into the world that we might be saved from God's wrath against our sin. Jesus is our only hope of salvation. If you deny Christ, you deny the Father and cut yourself off from any hope.
The angels were there because it was an ongoing evil. God sent them there to rescue Lot from the destruction that was imminent. The same way God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, into the world to save sinners like you and me from imminent destruction in a lake of fire.
Well, simply, yes. The central issue is sin-we’re all guilty of breaking God’s law (lying, stealing, lusting, gossiping, dishonoring parents, etc.) so we deserve death (Romans 6:23). God is perfectly holy, righteous and just-He must punish sin. Even the “little” sins.
You fail to understand the contradiction in your God words. We are gifted with free will to be good or evil. God should have not punished those people until judgment day. I believe God should have gave them more time to seek the path of righteousness in theor life time.
This is what everyone doesn’t say about sodom and Gomorrah, it was never JUST about homosexuality, the was vast molestation, perversion, the breaking of hospitality in one’s house, people attacking each other for worldly possessions, and the most important part, their refusal to heed god’s warnings. That is why they got smited
@@DoulosPodcast I m not a religious person but I do pray every night and I'm gay. My God does not solve issues by killing an entire city just because there were not 50 good people in there. These are stories made up by people. What's the takeaway from this Bible story? Let's kill if there is not a fair number of good people? Nah.. That's BS and the real God if there really is one would not solve things in this way.
Hi, Rares. We have to start with what the Bible says because God tells us who He is in the Bible. The Bible says He's holy (Isaiah 6) and He will by no means clear the guilty (Exodus 34:6-7). He drowned the entire world for the great evil of people except for Noah and his family (Genesis 6:5-8). So, God does solve the sin issue by killing people because all sinners are worthy of death (Romans 6:23). God only hears the prayers of those who have repented and trust Christ for salvation (Proverbs 28:9, Romans 8:15). God even put to death His own Son, Jesus Christ, that you and I could be spared from His eternal wrath in the lake of fire (1 John 4:10).
God is not mean he his justice
Exactly--a just and holy God must punish sin as a means to express His holiness and love for what is good.
True, sometimes real justice seems mean. But it is still the right path.
@@armaggon5920 God let Lot's daughters rape him. Lol.
He's Batman?
Take home message
1) repent (turn away from sin)
2) do not look back (in all ways physically spiritually and mentally)
3) heed gods warning direction and discipline
4) god is justice
5) pray for your own life and for others to be saved - place your belief and hand ur heart over to jesus christ the gift given to redeem us of our sin
Where does it say anything about homosexuality? Lot gave his young virgin daughters to strangers and then the daughters were impregnated by LOT.
Please tell the REAL story
Amen my brother. I kept telling people the same. God’s people will not be suffering with the wicked.
Amen I don't blame God God don't want all the evilness yucky mess in heaven
No evil will be able to enter! That's why we all need to be cleansed from our sin through Jesus Christ.
@@DoulosPodcast AMEN. Glory be to CHRIST.
Then y should they repent if he's not gonna forgive religion is wierd to understand, thought God was for the ones who needed him not the ones that r goodie goodies, but I guess I'm goin to hell I'm not evil or yucky but i have do and will sin without even Knowing at times
@@williammejia5951 Religion isn’t really what God and his word is. Its just the truth of our lives and his creation. Words from the creator. Hes not only for the goodie goodies , he chastises and disciplines his children. Jesus did say there will be more joy in heaven for 1 sinner that repents than 99 who did not need repentance. He is for everyone of his children man ! You’re not condemned to hell but you should repent no matter the Depth of your sins. Ask God to show you all your sins and convict you. Much Love and God bless
Even if they were not righteous why did they deserve to die? “If they do not change their lives, God will sharpen his sword; he will string his bow and take aim. He has prepared his deadly weapons; he has made his flaming arrows. There are people who think up evil and plan trouble and tell lies. - Psalm 7:12-14. When is it to late to repent and turn against sin
My belief is that God only spared Lot and his family because of their relation to Abraham. I believe that Lot and his daughters were no better then the angry Mob that tried to have sex with the Angels at Lot’s home. Lot is willing to give up his own daughters to the mob to subdue their anger. And as a consequence Lot’s daughters later impregnate themselves by taking advantage of Lot. To me this is a karmic consequence of Lot allowing his daughters to get raped by the Mob, thus he is later raped by his own daughters. Originally Lot pleaded with the Angels to retreat to a nearby city rather then the cave once Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. The Angels allowed Lot’s request, yet he heads to the cave anyways, despite wanting to go to the city.
Agreed, if Abraham had been allowed to continue pleading and got God down to 1, the same would have happened. If God killed even one righteous person that would have been murder, and God couldn't have done it.
Look how people are challenging and bringing the Word down. Keep doing your thing man!
Thank you, PernaJ!
We the people are destroying this world 🌎
We the people are destroying this world 🌎
The wicked have a warp sense of justice. They view righteousness as injustice. Sad..😢
Sad indeed.
God was going to send judgment upon Sodom and Gomorrah (S&G) but Abraham bargained with God that if 10 righteous folks were found in S&G, then God would not destroy the cities. So, according to what is written, God sent his angels, not to save Lot, but to see if 10 righteous were there, and if so, God would not destroy the cities.
Genesis 18:
32 And he (ABRAHAM) said, Oh let not the Lord (GOD) be angry, and I (ABRAHAM) will speak yet but this once: Peradventure TEN SHALL BE FOUND THERE. And he (GOD) said, I (GOD) will not destroy it (the cities) for ten's sake.
33 And the Lord (GOD) went his way, as soon as he (GOD) had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
So, the bargain was that the cities would be spared if 10 righteous folks were found there, i.e., even though the cities were inhospitable, the cities would still be spared if 10 righteous folks were there. That means that inhospitality was not why God destroyed the cities - the cities would have not been destroyed, although inhospitable, IF 10 RIGHTEOUS FOLKS COULD BE FOUND THERE.
So, the angels did not go down to S&G to save Lot, but instead, they went there SPECIFICALLY to find at least 10 righteous folks. How do we know this to be true?
Genesis 19:2 And he (LOT) said, Behold now, my lords (THE ANGELS), turn in, I pray you, into your servant's (LOT'S) house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they (THE ANGELS) said, Nay; but we (THE ANGELS) will abide in the street all night.
In other words, the angels were there to find 10 righteous folks, that was their mission from GOD, not to stay with Lot all night. Ten righteous folks and the cities were to be spared, less than 10 righteous folks and the cities were to be destroyed.
That let's the reader know that it was not the inhospitality of the cities that caused the destruction of the cities, but something else. What was the something else?
Genesis 19:
4 But before they lay (THE ANGELS) down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they (THE MEN OF THE CITY) called unto Lot, and said unto him (LOT), Where are the men (THE ANGELS) which came in to thee (LOT) this night? bring them (THE ANGELS) out unto us (THE MEN OF THE CITY), THAT WE (THE MEN OF THE CITY) MAY KNOW THEM (THE ANGELS).
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them (THE MEN OF THE CITY), and shut the door after him,
7 And said, I pray you, BRETHREN (MEN OF THE CITY), DO NOT SO WICKEDLY.
What were THE MEN OF THE CITY going to do that was considered to be so WICKED? Was it gang r*pe?
Well, Lot offered his daughters to THE MEN OF THE CITY for their sexual pleasure. So, the wicked behavior that Lot was concerned about was not gang r*pe. It must have been the type of gang r*pe.
Genesis 19:
8 Behold now, I (LOT) have two daughters which have not known man; let me (LOT), I (LOT) pray you, bring them out unto you (THE MEN OF THE CITY), AND DO YE (MEN OF THE CITY) TO THEM (LOT'S DAUGHTERS) AS IS GOOD IN YOUR EYES: only unto these MEN (THE ANGELS) do nothing.
Lot understood that the men of the city wanted intimacy with men. Lot is a man. Why not offer himself? The men would have likely accepted that deal, too.
9 And they (THE MEN OF THE CITY) said ... now will we (THE MEN OF THE CITY) deal worse with thee (LOT), than with them (THE ANGELS). And they (THE MEN OF THE CITY) pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
That verse informs the reader that Lot (a man) was also on their intimacy menu, but not Lot's daughters.
12 And the men (THE ANGELS) said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For WE WILL DESTROY THIS PLACE, BECAUSE the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT.
Notice, the angels never had a chance to check to see if 10 righteous folks abided in the cities. All of the men of the city were there at Lot's house, but there is no indication that any women were present. In other words, there could have been at least 10 righteous women in S&G which would have led to the cities not being destroyed. However, we never got to find this out because "the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT."
In summary, the bargain was for at least 10 righteous folks, it does not say whether or not the 10 be all male, all female, or a mixture of the two sexes. This is not specified. From the reading, just 10 righteous folks were necessary for the cities not to be destroyed.
Yes, inhospitality, and a few other things, brought the LORD'S attention to the city. But the LORD was willing to spare the city, although inhospitable, if at least 10 righteous folks resided there.
We find that the angels never got the opportunity to look for 10 righteous folks because of the wicked SEXUAL behavior of the men of the city. Thus, "the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT."
That is the BUT FOR or the THE ACTUAL CAUSE or THE REASON WHY the decision was made to destroy S&G.
Again, "the cry of them (THE MEN OF THE CITY) is waxen great BEFORE the face of the LORD; and the LORD HATH SENT US TO DESTROY IT."
Was the Homosexuality THAT Big Of A Deal??
Or
Was it that the Townspeople tried to PEAR The Angels as soon as they showed up??
It was that big of a deal. It was that sin that drove them to want to sexually assault the angels as well. However, ALL sin deserves that kind of judgment from God which is why we need Christ!
Yes it was that big of a deal! That's why it said all the men of Sodom from the oldest to the youngest every last one of them! You know it grows like wildfire. Just look at what has happened to this country since 2015! When your leaders are wicked/evil it Just Spreads to the citizens.
It was part of it, but not the complete reason like everyone is saying, there was sickening perversion, molestation, people not honoring hospitality, and it was children and women doing it to, the entire town was corrupt, and not following god’s plan, it was not homosexuality alone
@@DoulosPodcast everything that was going on together was the reason why, not homosexuality alone
You're right, SauceKay. Homosexuality wasn't the only reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. But it was the main reason which is why it is discussed in the narrative about Lot.
The New Testament says that homosexuality is a “shameful lust” (Romans 1:26), a “shameful act,” an abandonment of “natural relations” (Romans 1:27), a “wrongdoing” (1 Corinthians 6:9), and “sexual immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7). Homosexuality carries a “due penalty” (Romans 1:27), “is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:10), and is listed among the sins that bar people from the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Despite the attempts of some to downplay these verses, the Bible could not be clearer that homosexuality is a sin against God.
God kept his promise to his people 🙏
Then why did Lot's wife die? She just looked back at the city and she immediately turned into salt. She wasn't even directly told to not look back. That isn't justice.
Because Lot's Wife was Homosexual Supporter herself so she destroyed
@@punisherrafi6440 Not true. Never said that in the bible. She never even interacted much in the bible with anyone. She just died because she looked at sodom and gomorrah burn.
@@ronaldorobertson4697lot offered his 2 daughters to the men in the city imagine what lot made his wife do. Evil place
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God bless everyone god loves us no matter how much we sin he will always forgive us I love you god❤ Amen🙏😇
God definitely is kind to sinners by supplying them their daily needs, but God does not love wicked people who rebel against His holy law. “The aboastful shall not bstand before Your eyes; You hate all workers of iniquity.” Psalm 5:5
God not only hates the sinner, God hates the sinner in their sin. Many YT videos to confirm this. Steve. Lawson, PhD has a video on God hating the sinner in their sin, as does Paul Washer and RC Sproul.
He is doing it for what's right he loves us all
God will always do what is right.
God warning many years but I didn't obey gods voice and broken commandments did sexual sins, now disease came bedrest in home, lost my life, health, can God forgive me?
Hi, @iwantjesusinmylife. We are all guilty of breaking God’s laws. Because of this, we have earned the death penalty for our sins. Our only hope of escape from eternal torment is repentance and faith in Christ alone. God loves to save sinners and He will save you if you humble yourself and ask Him.
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Give them mercy, oh LORD. Like you did us.
There is a song called sodom and Gomorrah and its soooo evil. I watched 30 seconds of it and had to turn it off. But i went and read the comments and everyone is praising the girl who made the song. Sooo disturbing.
I literally just saw it today and had the same reaction!! I’m 7 hrs behind you on watching that and coming here!!
I can only imagine-I’m not even going to look it up.
Because it’s a good song? Not everybody needs to subscribe to religious brainwashing. The song isn’t for you.
It's a shame that you didn't listen to the whole thing cause it's a banger ❤
"Deuteronomy, givе my a$s a lobotomy
That's sodomy, diggin' deep, archaeology
My theology, I like to know that hе's watchin' me
Fulfill me up like a prophecy, put the fear of God in me"
@@chemtrailsoverthecountryclub LMAOOO
You may want to look at Sodom and Gomorrah a little closer. Sodom and Gomorrah was related to to Genesis 6:4.
I don't see the connection explicitly in the Scriptures but I'd be willing to look if you pointed out the connection you see.
Remember Lot’s wife
That is the exact admonition Jesus gave in Luke 17:32.
Lot was not righteous, brother. If you read you see lot was spared because of Abrahams righteousness. Lot sat in the city gate, meaning he was an elder there.
According to 2 Peter 2:7, Lot was righteous in the eyes of God. He was spared because of God's grace in granting him righteousness.
❤ Amen ❤
We, the people are the ones destroying this world 🌎
Abraham didn’t negotiate down to 10. Have you ever heard of Lot?
“And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.” (Genesis 18:32, KJV)
HOLD THE PHONE!!! THERE WERENT 10 PEOPLE THAT WERE STRAIT IN THE HEAD IN BOTH CITIES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! HOLY COW!!!!!
According Scripture, there weren’t even 10 righteous in the city
Amen ❤
So even though he saved lots family they still ended up being sexually deviant by his daughters raping him... can someone explain why they are saved and considered righteous? It doesn't seem right...
They were save by God grace n mercy
What @kandisw33t said-it is only by God’s grace that anyone is saved. He imputes His righteousness to us by faith in Christ.
According to yall logic God isn’t fair and picks and chooses who else shows his mercy too lol make it make sense
@Future Infiniti yea I mean they went through all that stuff about the whole city being sexual deviants and they have to save lots family then they themselves end up not only raping a man but their own father... like is that not somehow even worse? Lol
@Future Infiniti God’s grace is never owed. Justice is owed-we all deserve justice which would end with all of us in hell. God extends grace through His Son, Jesus Christ to save us from hell. By definition, grace is granted as a gift. You don’t want God’s justice-you want His grace.
Gods “fire and brimstone” is a retrospective appliance of meaning to a natural disaster occurring
Amen amen this is true !!!
Hebrew plural is three or more Not two or more. So, Had Lot's three, or possibly more daughters been righteous that would have made ten. I think Abraham knew this and that is why he stopped negotiating at ten
Lot wasn't righteous either nor his family. God just had mercy on him because he was kin to Abraham. All Abraham's negotiations you don't think he begged God to spare his nephew and family? Why you think the angel said he couldn't do anything until he gets them out.
Lot definitely wasn't righteous, Lot was a selfish man, Lot was greedy, Lot was disrespectful to Abraham, Lot was a hypocrite, Lot practices incest with his daughters, Lot was far from righteous. To those who are truly saved and you have unsaved family members keep interceding for them God may saved them from his next round of judgement that's coming.
These are all lies! lot is a righteous prophet in islam, the bible is corrupted, may god lead you to the truth.
@@anas-432 ohhhhh yeah the religion that teaches it's ok to marry little girls then I can see how Lot the drunk and incest righteous man is your role model.
Hi, Daughter of Zion. You're right. Lot wasn't inherently righteous. But he was called righteous in Scripture ("...and if He rescued righteous Lot..." (2 Peter 2:7). Also, looking through Genesis, Abraham, out of love for his nephew, negotiated with God to spare the "righteous" in the city. Lot was a drunkard but I don't think he practiced incest with his daughters. The Bible clearly states that "...he did not know when she lay down or when she arose" (Genesis 19:33,35). He was grossly taken advantage of by his daughters, though he is to blame for his drunkenness.
Hi, anas 447. No, the Bible is the very Word of God. It is the purest thing we can physically touch in this world. th-cam.com/video/9PCKLWLdQ68/w-d-xo.html
@@DoulosPodcast I know that the word righteous in the Torah meant something totally different for that culture back then. I can go feed the homeless and I would be called a righteous person. Doing the right thing all the time why living amongst wickedness is why Noah was called righteous. Per Lot in my opinion he wasn't all that righteous it was only because of Abraham that he was spared per the angel who said so.
Lot was disobedient, Lot was greedy, Lot was a drunk, and no telling what else Lot was about when he tried to judge the men of Sodom and they reminded him how dare you live amongst us and yet you try and be our judge. Lots character is very much displayed in the type of man he was. And if he was sooooo righteous according to your opinion that he even was willing to sacrifice his daughters. So do your home work some more on the story. Islam can never understand this because their beliefs are anti Christ, they don't believe in salvation, the Holy Ghost nor that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a son called his name Jesus born of the Virgin Mary.
Oh yeah and keep in mind that Abraham's negotiations was for God to spare the cities if he could find 5 righteous. Ummm the inhabitants failed the test that would include Lot as well. He was spared only because of Abraham. True believers of the Christ remember some family members can be spared through God mercy because of your obedience to him. You are the blessing in your family if your team Jesus!
There are none who are riotous. No not even one.
“As it is written, 'There is none righteous, not even one.'" Romans 3:10
@@DoulosPodcast Lot was so righteous that he offered up his two daughters to be raped and later got drunk, had sex with each of them on consecuitive nights and impregnated them
Lot was righteous and so we’re his daughters right? So why did he offer his virgin daughters to a mob with rape on their minds and why did his daughters get him drunk and lay with him? This was the family God saved? This was God’s ‘justice’ and ‘holiness’. Have a day off people.
“Righteous” doesn’t always mean “perfect” in the Bible. Obviously, the gross immoral acts that Lot and his daughters did were not righteous acts. However, compared to God’s perfect holiness, the sins you and I have committed aren’t all that different. Since God is God, He can save whom He wants by His mercy and He can damn whom He wants by His justice. The only way to receive grace and mercy is to turn from our sin and trust in His Son, Jesus Christ, for salvation.
god send the angels to take lots family out so that he could destroy soddom and gomorah he wouldnt send them for no reason to be rapd
Hi, alasten. Yes, God sent the angels to rescue Lot and his family-they’re too powerful to allow themselves to get raped.
You got a job to find out.
The Bible tells us already, Manni
I think you have a job to find out!
He got a "lot" to find out
😂😂😂😂 how in thee hell you get homosexuality out of someone wants to rape someone. They wanted to rape the men. They were rapists. 🤦🏾♂️
Genesis 19:4-5 says, "...the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young...and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, 'Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them." Did they intend to rape the angels? Yes, but they were men seeking to do that with other men--old and young men alike showing how pervasive homosexuality was in Sodom.
@@DoulosPodcast so John is gay, but billy wants to rape him. The town gets destroyed. The town is destroyed because John is gay? 😂 moving on along since we are here. You mean to tell me Lot walks away and is praised for being righteous after offering up his daughters to be rape? But Lot gets destroyed for having a natural human reaction by looking back as it was considered disobeying God? God didn’t even tell her, man told her. S/n I hate how women were treated in the Bible. She was being told what to do by man. We never hear Lot being condemned for offering his daughters. But later on, his daughters sleep with him. 🤦🏾♂️😩 I can’t believe I fell for what was told to me for 40 years. Glad I have a mind if my own. All ppl have to do is read.
The town was destroyed because it was full of wickedness as Genesis 18:20 says. Lot was never praised for offering his daughters up to sexual deviants. He was considered just not because of his good deeds or his sins but because God showed him mercy. Woman are image bearers of God so they have equal worth in the eyes of God. However, men and women have different roles. God is the Creator of us all so He determines what is right in the family and society.
@@DoulosPodcast I know🙄. He was praised for being a righteous man and was never condemned
@@DoulosPodcastthat doesn’t indicate homosexuality. That’s indicating rape and pedophilia
What we know about Lot peace be upon him, that he spent a lot of time and years trying to bring his village people to right path (as much as like any other prophet and messenger sent from God), but they didn’t until the last moments when the angels came to Lots to tell him what God Almighty sent them to do… and told him to take the believers only with him from his family and other villagers, except his wife that she is not one of the (cause she tolerated and accepted what their sinners do and she was the one who went to the villagers to tell them about the new visitors so she betrayed Lot)
And when they knew they came to Lot wanting to get to the strangers visitors to do what they want to do with them insisting on their ways and corrupted mentally/mortalities and beliefs
They have had A lot of sins, the main big sin is their homosexuality
If just for that they got the wrath God put them to
Homosexuality is one of the BIG SINs
And we believe in that as muslims
Hi, @Phoenixica. Thanks for the comments. Although the Bible doesn't give us any indication that Lot nor his wife engaged in preaching against the wickedness of the city, it does tell us that Lot tried to warn his sons-in-law (Genesis 19:14, KJV). Sodom and Gomorrah were wicked cities and God decided to destroy them for their sin. Homosexuality is definitely a pronounced sin--as Paul writes in Romans, it is against nature. Ultimately, though, every sin deserves the judgment Sodom and Gomorrah received, which is why our only hope of escape is in God's Son, Jesus Christ.
@@DoulosPodcast thank you for your reply,
Yes it is a sin indeed, from Quran it tells us a lot of details, about what their main sin (homosexuality etc) and that their wicked acts and beliefs and Lot pbuh was sent with a message from God, even in the time when the wrath is about to begin the two angels sent from God went first to Abraham to give him the news about that he will have a son and the other news was that they are heading to Lots village to do what God sent them to do.
So yes its fascinating to read and hear these stories from reliable sources
To take notes and knowledge from them
And for sure the only hope for us all to be safe in this trembling world is to be closer to the Creator the one who sent all prophets and messengers 🙏🏻
May God protect us and all of our beloved my friend
The Creator sent His Son, the greatest Prophet, Jesus Christ, into the world that we might be saved from God's wrath against our sin. Jesus is our only hope of salvation. If you deny Christ, you deny the Father and cut yourself off from any hope.
@@DoulosPodcast actually we admit and believe that Jesus is a prophet and one of the massagers sent from almighty God and love him peace be upon him
Do you confess that Jesus is in fact God in human flesh as well? Anything short of that is a different Jesus.
Every sin is equal so why do the angels get special treatment? This sounds like a man made revenge story.
What did the angels do wrong?
@@DoulosPodcast Cities wiped out because the victims were angels but when it was done to ordinary people nothing happened.
The angels were there because it was an ongoing evil. God sent them there to rescue Lot from the destruction that was imminent. The same way God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, into the world to save sinners like you and me from imminent destruction in a lake of fire.
@@DoulosPodcast So I believe in Jesus and God or I suffer for eternity?
Well, simply, yes. The central issue is sin-we’re all guilty of breaking God’s law (lying, stealing, lusting, gossiping, dishonoring parents, etc.) so we deserve death (Romans 6:23). God is perfectly holy, righteous and just-He must punish sin. Even the “little” sins.
You fail to understand the contradiction in your God words. We are gifted with free will to be good or evil. God should have not punished those people until judgment day. I believe God should have gave them more time to seek the path of righteousness in theor life time.
so, you are wiser and more just than the Creator? Hmm....
@@markgerhart4975 The god of Abraham is an imposter
We are evil by nature as Scripture teaches. When you say, "God should have not...", what's your authority for saying so?
This is what everyone doesn’t say about sodom and Gomorrah, it was never JUST about homosexuality, the was vast molestation, perversion, the breaking of hospitality in one’s house, people attacking each other for worldly possessions, and the most important part, their refusal to heed god’s warnings. That is why they got smited
Yes seem as tho god picks and chooses special ppl to show mercy too
BS
How so?
@@DoulosPodcast I m not a religious person but I do pray every night and I'm gay. My God does not solve issues by killing an entire city just because there were not 50 good people in there. These are stories made up by people. What's the takeaway from this Bible story? Let's kill if there is not a fair number of good people? Nah.. That's BS and the real God if there really is one would not solve things in this way.
Hi, Rares. We have to start with what the Bible says because God tells us who He is in the Bible. The Bible says He's holy (Isaiah 6) and He will by no means clear the guilty (Exodus 34:6-7). He drowned the entire world for the great evil of people except for Noah and his family (Genesis 6:5-8). So, God does solve the sin issue by killing people because all sinners are worthy of death (Romans 6:23). God only hears the prayers of those who have repented and trust Christ for salvation (Proverbs 28:9, Romans 8:15). God even put to death His own Son, Jesus Christ, that you and I could be spared from His eternal wrath in the lake of fire (1 John 4:10).
The lord is right and just
Thank you
You’re welcome!