Colts Players Respond to Austin Rivers' 30 for 30 Comments | "Football Is Prided on Toughness"
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Tim got caught being wrong and kept moving that goal post😂😂💀
Oklahoma drill would handle this argument for the nba players that think they can play football
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that drill made a man outta me😂😂😂😂
Talk to em
And Julius Peppers would have destroyed whomever was on the other side of him. You'll get over it.
Lmao yall act like they don’t know it’s physical contact and they scared. If they going to try it they know what’s coming
Sure would 😂😂😂
D. Fox would get sent to the shadow realm trying to shed a block on kickoffs and punts 😂
He gonna be the one returning kicks
D. Fox from Louisiana o guarantee he can play football lol
@teddyfeleke9661 So he'll get sent to the shadow realm when he tries to get past the defenders when his blockers whiff on their assignment? Okay.
@@ENJ3245 Everybody can play football, but on an nfl level? Stop 😂
@@Buchanan909 nobody can get dropped in either sport and play right away but a basketball player would play sooner in football then the other way around and if people like Jaylin Hyatt and Desean Jackson taking hits I don’t need to here no shadow realm nonsense like taking a hit is that difficult
Ppl forget Charles Ward won the Heisman and got drafted in the NBA
Bro Tim is WILDING in this convo. 😂
The fastest nba player getting ran down by d lineman
Julius Peppers is literally a Football player who played basketball. Dude had to Walk-on to play basketball. He had a Full Scholarship for Football.
And he was a mediocre basketball player , which proves football players can’t translate to basketball
@@shadwilliams5761 Charlie Ward was a heisman trophy winner and became the starting pg the Knicks that went to the finals.
@shadwilliams5761 all basketball players can do better is dribble. NFL players bench more, squat more, jump higher, and are the superior athletes. NFL plays are much more complicated then anything basketball can ever hope to be. NFL Is a game of leverage, the lower guys wins more often, NBA players are too tall, not explosive enough and far too weak to be on a football feild. All they do better is dribble and that is not am athletic attribute. It's just a skill, like throwing or cathing a football. So of we are talking about which athletes can walk into anyone's sports, a football player is ready to go immediately where as a basketball player would need a full year or steroids to get big and strong enough to take the punishment from football
@@navyglass1242I agree with some of what you’re saying but basketball players aren’t weak. (Some are obviously) but to put them all under that blanket is wrong. I remember an old sports science episode where Kevin love boxed out a sumo wrestler, which shows how strong he is. I would also argue that NBA players have much better cardio than the average NFL player. But everything else I pretty much agree with.
@@navyglass1242 not jump higher, more explosive yes, stronger yes, more mobile no, more flexible no, more durable , no
The best point in all of this wen bruh brought up the fact there’s not 30 nba players that’s gonna be willing to take those typa hits every Sunday for 17-18 weeks while also mixing the practices you would have to go thru.
Facts. Not to mention the pressure to perform even while injured. All the stories we hear of guys playing through injury out of fear of losing their spot on the depth chart. Load management my @ss
18/22 people on the field never get tackled.
He lost me when he tried to make the point that the Jets hid Revis, he lined up 1-on-1, they dared ppl to attack him😅😅😅😅
That Revis take is wiiiiiiiild
Tf was he talking about.. his argument helped NFL players lol. Stupid take.
@@ImThatGuy02Faxs if anything them not targeting Revis meant the other dbs who weren’t as good were getting tested by the qb 😂
Darelle revis “hid” on defense? Yeah he has no football IQ.
The offense RAN FROM HIM😂😂😂
we going to act like a guy like Pj tucker isn't getting mad minutes to play defense and still get dropped off and literally sit in the corner and maybe shoot 2 times a game
Bro lost when he said basketball doesnt run zone😂😂😂😂.
Teams don’t run zone they just runnin zone coverage lmaoooo there’s no way this generation brains are this cooked.
Tee Higgins was a National Ranked Basketball Player in High School
He was a lowly recruited player. Tee himself said he knew he had a better chance at making the nfl that’s why he chose football
@laminho1188 but that doesn't mean he couldn't of played basketball
@@laminho1188but he said that waa because of his height tho
@@tdmidas289that’s telling you he wouldn’t be in no nba that’s why he chose nfl more spots
@@tdmidas289it kinda does.
Julius Peppers was in college for 3 years. Played basketball for 2 years and averaged 6 pts and 4 rebounds. Meanwhile he was an all American for three years playing football and the number 2 pick in the draft. For Tim to say he was a basketball player playing football just told me he really ain’t know wth he was talkin about fr
That kinda proves the point lol he was an dookie hooper but an HOF nfl player lmao, if u gave a few nba players 6 months to train they’d make make a 70 man roster u can’t say the same for nfl players making an nba roster
@@varlitoway3809 give either side 6 months and both of their chances rise. Everyone keeps talking about skill and training but there is skill on both sides. The biggest difference between all of this is height. Tim Duncan would be swimming in the Olympics if he was 6’3 not 6’10. Shaq with his skill set at 6’3? Forget about it get on the line. If Myles Garrett or Tee Higgins were 6’9 they’d basically be Draymond Esque and McDaniel from the Wolves.
At the end of the day it is wild to me the continued disrespect football gets. You never hear basketball players saying they could play baseball or soccer
@@goose5719 if u skills train a football player there still not gonna be good enough to play in the nba lmao,this has honestly already been proves we’ve seen NFL teams offer nba players contracts we’ve never seen that vice versa, the best receivers try to replicate crossovers to create separation lmao
@@varlitoway3809 I will say it again. Height is the biggest factor. You’ve ignored every point I’ve made in my previous point. If you really believed 30 active nba players could stop right now and transfer over to the nfl and succeed you are being ignorant. There are guys in the g league not even making six figures. If it’s so easy there should be atleast 10 guys every year making the switch which there isn’t.
Bro you just googled those stats. He played at UNC bro, one of the best basketball colleges in the NCAA. That alone lets you know most people are bias on this topic.
You have to be a minimum of 6'2 to be effective in the NBA in most cases, that takes out 90% of the skill positions. You need to be shorter than 6'8 to be effective in the NFL, that takes out a big chunk of NBA players too. There's a small margin of players that can play both with the size and speed needed in both sports.
I say no to both sides though
Thank you. This is an accurate statement
Imagine 6”8 linemen’s and 6”9 receivers, you telling me that won’t translate to football
@shadwilliams5761 there are 6'8 offensive linemen, they're not typically all muscle like an NBA player needs to be. And it's rare for anyone over 6'5 to be successful at WR
@@SuiCideZombiez Calvin Johnson , Randy moss, Antonio gates , Tony Gonzalez , guess what….theres a bunch of them in the nba
Julius Peeppers to me then sounds like an NFL player who could play in the NBA…
His main sport was basketball family 😂😂like come on with this dumb shit
Ej speed said the best point towards the end about toughness
I played football, baseball, and basketball in highschool. And trust me sport to sport. Its hard to transition. Training, and preparing is totally different.
Not a single nba player is catching a pass over the middle and not fumbling.
Not a single NBA player will even be able to not get jammed on the line of scrimmage to even be able to get open. They are too weak.
Stop playing. I bet Zion Williamson, Isiah Stewart, Jalen Duran, and Steven Adams can move a lot of NFL players around
Desmond Bane, Luguentz Dort, LeBron, Patrick Williams, K.leonard, grant Williams, jae'sean Tate, Dillion brooks, cam whitmore, andre Drummond all can move can get off the line on some NFL players.
People out here really think making a layup is harder than trying to block a 300lbs man that can run a 4.4 40 and bench 400 😂. My granny can shoot a 3 pointer in the driveway. Be fr 😂😂
See this is what I'm talking about bro this is how you know you don't know how to play basketball and I guarantee you if me and you step on a basketball court me as a person who played just high school basketball I will give you 50 points and you couldn't do s*** about it
and pj tucker average less than a layup a game. You mean to tell me they aint a couple nfl player cant make a roster just to play defense
@@cireepresley6334 Youd have an easier time playing me in ball than trying to stop Myles Garrett coming off the edge one on one with no help. 😆 . Thanks for proving my point.
@@christianshaw2450PJ is playing a role. He's been a certified killer all his life. Pat Bev was averaged 37 in high school in Chicago at a time when D.Rose was playing in high school. You have to be a killer until you get to the league, then you have to be a specialist
@@d.felixphoto2260 All I’m saying is basketball fans act like these NBA players can go play football at wr or db and be Justin Jefferson or Jalen Ramsey. I would love to see these NBA guys try to guard tyreek or get off man press and run a slant across the field. Because honestly I can 100% get 30 guys in the NFL to do the job PJ has done the last few years.
Andre Roberson was NOT an offensive threat ever in his NBA career
There’s no chance at ALL that 3, forget about 30 NBA players could play in the NFL. That’s crazy talk
Basketball is more of a skill-based sport, but football is the more physical and mentally taxing sport. Not only are you getting hit nearly every play, but you have to speak an entirely different language of a playbook thats as thick as a dictionary. Basketball just isn't built like that. Football is a sport where you're trying to accomplish a goal together as one cohesive team. Basketball is give ME the ball and go hide in a corner.
Both sports are hard to transition from but I believe that you have to live in the gym and work constantly on your game when it comes to basketball. The average basketball player can’t handle the ball consistently and get by defenders. Also in football you get breaks in between possessions however in basketball your constantly running so a basketball player is going to be more conditioned to run and our weight training is a bit different. However with football and especially on defense you really don’t have to worry about technique, I will say you have a valid point with the play book. I just think you take more players from the NBA and they will make a NFL roster vs a NFL player making the NBA.
Bro a lot of the football players were not good basketball players that's why they went to go play football trust me everybody in the hood want to be a basketball player
@@MaddieKarshe That's why I said basketball is the more skill-based sport. You need to understand that football mentality is way different then Basketball. Basketball you have so much more space to operate and no one can touch you. You understand that which means there's no fear other then I don't know embarrassment for getting crossed over. Football you have men. Grown ass men trying to tear your head off every single play.
@@darriusavery3563defense very much needs technic, very few NFL players are moving another grown man out of the way by oure force. Aaron Donald was one of the most technical players in NFL histroy playing inside Dline while being undersized
@@darriusavery3563Defense is all about technique in football you are insane
Bro, all the names were football players who played basketball in college
As an AAU 🏀 coach I love players that play 🏈 for that edge in the fight
Bro said Julius Peppers. He doesn't know anything. Peppers was a football player all the way. He played basketball for a bit but he played football in high school and college. No where in his college career did he play basketball.
In either sport you have to train and focus on one thing. AR could play basketball but at a pro level is different. It's just like how football is different.
Julius Peppers was a vital part of a final four squad at UNC
@@reggiejones907peppers averaged 1.5 to 2.5 FGs per game, he wasnt that vital
@@Darsam88had to watch the games bro.
That revis take was wild
the basketball player not knowing wtf he talking bout wen it comes to basketball is crazy. then doubleing down on theres no zone... i fuk wit yu tho tim u tried it
Bro said Darrelle Revis was being hidden on defense and wasn't involved in every play 😂
If Ben fucking Simmons can drop 42 points in a game I can get at least 4 along with some rebounds.
Ben 6'10 with a 40 in vert
Drew Lock was a 3 star Basketball Recruit
On ST’s alone skill is beating a double team or running down and catching a punt on the goal line at gunner, running down on kor & turning around to block an LB running full speed, making a tackle as the speed 5 on KO, returning a punt or blocking for the returner. The list goes on…. You won’t understand the physicality and skill of pro football unless you’ve played pro or have seen it in person at field level
Dearron Fox??? Really??? They always forget to factor in the physicality of the sport. Getting hit consistently will change someone’s mind about playing football. I don’t see that. Draymond tried to play football and yall know how that went and he’s considered a tough guy in the NBA.
Buddy has zero idea of what he’s talking about in EITHER sport. Julius Peppers went to UNC on a FOOTBALL scholarship & played basketball AFTER the FOOTBALL season was over. Football has made many basketball players from camp & Oklahoma drills!
He explained zone & coverage, but it’s the same thing in the NFL lmao I’m dead!! NBA players & NBA fans can’t understand schemes
Mann Basketball So Easy WOMEN PLAY IT.. 🤣
Holyyy😂😂
Women play football too, what are you talking about, you never heard of the legends football league
@@edwardt7364 you meant the lingerie league.. Yeah it's my favorite 😂
@@imtruckingbolt2537 they changed the name to legends
How Austin rivers talking about naming 30 nba players that can play in the nfl and he’s not on his own list
It's multiple basketball players that never previously played football before and made the NFL. You can't name one football player that has done the same.
Listen to all you basketball lovers MAJORITY EVERY FOOTBALL PLAYER PLAYED ANOTHER SPORT IN HIGHSCHOOL AND SOME IN COLLEGE!!! ITS RARE THATS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Tee Higgins
Devonte Adams
Mike Evans
Keon Coleman
Nelson Agholor
lol Tim knew he was wrong 😂😂 11:04
Austin said there are 30 current NBA players that could play in the NFL now. Not two sport players in college
I'm a diehard lifelong UNC fan. This guy has it twisted. Peppers was a top football recruit and college football player. He wasn't recruited by any school as a basketball player. He's a freak athlete who at 6"6 was 265 his freshman year who could jump out the gym. Great dunker. Didnt play basketball his junior year.
ITS EASIER FOR AN NFL PLAYER TO MAKE AN OPEN THREE THAN IT IS FOR AN NBA PLAYER TO TAKE A HIT.
Broooo... Tim..... im embarrassed for you, bruh.
The most skilled thing in nba is consistently making a shot especially a 3 and foot work even though football is a foot work thing also …but it takes a lot of skill to catch the ball in tight spaces and contested catches it takes a lot of skill to play CB shit it takes a lot of skill to throw the damn ball and to play tackle oline period but definitely tackles…basketball if you can shoot you fine dribbling n etc is extra
Ill say i think Basketball is the more technical sport, where football is more of the mental sport. You have to WANT to go out there and take or give hits, you cant play in the NFL and not want to get touched because you wont get anything done if you play like that
Football requires an enormous amount of skill
5:48 Zaire was ready lol
Should have them football players do the Oklahoma drill with nba probably be crickets
So we just gonna forget about Randy Moss, Heisman trophy winner Charlie Ward and Allen Iverson😮😮😮
It’s crazy to me that this man did not know what zone was for football. As a matter of fact, there are variations of man and zone for one coverage in football. That argument was ridiculous
They should have a competition to settle the debate though. Some of the pro bowl games and some of the nba all star events. I’d watch that
Just subscribed off this clip 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Brian scalabraine literally showed the difference between the 15th man on an nba roster is still extremely skilled. His toughest quote was im closer to lebron than you are to me.
About Austin Rivers career it is true that his Dad saved his career early on. After that though he was a solid nba player and played on multiple teams his Dad did not coach. He had a decent NBA career.
Barney trippin . Zones are coverages , his point is invalid he just wants to be right
yoooo y’all ass be havin me dead😂😂
Neither athlete can easily transition to either sport. Both parties are delusional
A perfect example of a basketball player making it to the league David bell from the far east side he started off a hooper then played football
You talking about David Bell who played Football all throughout High School in Indiana and College at Purdue? Who didn't play a single second of College Basketball nor NBA? That sounds like a Football player.
We gonna sit her and act like basketball players around the world don’t hate when football players get on the court because we’re “hacks” because we play more physical ? We gone act like soft zones in basketball ain’t soft zone in football? And the NFL has more positions . This boul is wild
Every players that he named is muscle bound guys that played college basketball
you can always teach skill but you cant teach toughness
What people don't seem to know about Antonio Gates is that he signed LOI to play FOOTBALL for Nick Saban at Michigan State. He left MSU because Saban wanted him to only concetrate on football. Gates was later quoted as saying he ahould have listen to Nick and concentrated on rather than playing basketball.
He lost me when he said they don't play zone in the NBA. 😅
Allen Iverson played football and was great at it and is also one of THEEEE GREATEST basketball players ever.
They bring this man on For the shock factors. They know he’ll make outrageous claims before he even speaks but it’s good for their content I guess
Football is athletic ability and toughness basketball is athleticism and skill…if you can tolerate pain you can play football
I'm glad Antonio Gates got brought up, he's the most obvious pull IMO. Excited for the rest of this one tho 🤣
Lmaooo son in the purple has no idea on what he's talking about 😂😂😂😂😂
Most NFL players can learn basketball skills and can get good with enough time and practice. They’re all elite athletes and football is a mentality challenging sport at minimum they can develop into a Dennis Rodman type player who rebounds and defends. Meanwhile you can teach an NBA player football skills easily enough but I’m willing to bet any NBA player would quit after the first Oklahoma drill
College basketball is not the NBA
He was a way better Football player than basketball.
It can literally be done it’s a pointless argument. You can literally take guys from the NBA and NFL and y’all got the wrong person arguing for the NBA
NFL:
Max Crosby
Jalen Ramsey
Tyreek Hill
Micah Parson
Myles Garrett
NBA:
Jalen Suggs
Zion Williamson
Russell Westbrook
Lebron James
D-Fox
Literally everything that they say about the NBA players can be said about NFL players.
Odell Beckham is a better basketball player than most basketball players
If football players could play in the NBA then why choose the sport that pays less on every metric
The guys he named was football players that could play basketball not the other way around
Drake London, Myles Garrett, Cooper Dejean
😂😂😂 im dead breh zaire was hot
Did this dude just say, that’s just being physical that’s not football? BRUH WTF DO YOU THINK FOOTBALL IS!!!!??? Do you think we go out there and touch each other like oh my friend I will lower my shoulder gently into your rib cage, as you catch the ball, and the linemen r like you sir will come at me with every elbow, slap, and punch you can to get to my qb and I will softly try and stop, because we’re non physical. Dude sniffs glue.
baskeball is 100% easIEr than football.
Because the NFL players lift weights, the way they jump is crazy. Footwork isn't an issue. Defense is better. Shooting can be taught quickly. It's also waaaaay less mental.
its a reason why old men in their 70s and 80s can still play basketball. NOBODY keeps playing football after the mid 30s lowkeyhighkey.
It’s very difficult to shoot that ball. We’re talking with a pro guarding you not at the 24. It’s extremely difficult to dribble in front of a pro. Football players wouldn’t even make a team.
NBA players be 6’7 172 pounds. They not lasting past training camp. Also can you catch the ball knowing you about to get cracked? That mentally will make bad football players. Then can you catch it w ppl grabbing and tugging you then can you catch it with multiple players on you. Then can you catch it with a helmet on and shoulder pads. Then can you catch it when the defense knows it’s coming to you.
They play zone in the NBA. It’s just different then college zone
that's not the question. can NBA players not college kids that played both. NBA is way too soft. that's a hello no. but yes dudes playing mfl could compete with NBA players. also tons of guys r fast with out pads
comparing miles to the dream thats even wilder tell tim to send me wat he smoking we aint gt dat dwn her🤣
Simply put if NFL players were taller and more athletic they'd play basketball. Cause if you had the skill you wouldn't choose a sport that hurts you more, pays you less, AND hides your individuality behind the shield and team. 🤷🏾♂️
This can be solved easily. Yall hit up your connects and make it happen in like summer. Basketball game NBA vs NFL
Yes 30 don't mean they are going to suceed
Basketball is more skilled and Football is more physical you cannot compare the two
I run a 4.4 in football but I hoop
Yeah, Tony Gonzalez played basketball in college too.
All those 2 sport athletes were better at football. Charlie Ward was one of the few that could actually play in the NBA.
Miles Garrett is too swole to play in the NBA, dude isn't guarding any 2 or 3s, and he's too short to guard anyone taller. Most of the other dudes too short, they ain't playing point.
The only people that can make the transition are the people that did both they whole life and even then its gonna be hard just think about your muscle memory and how its locked into a certain set of skills you have to develop that even just to compete
DeAron Fox is tough. Could be a hell of a playmaker at receiver given the time/experience I think. In the very select few that I believe could actually make the leap. But to be honest the conversation is stupid, its legit one degree removed from Which NHL player could play in the NBA and vice versa. Just ludicrous, 99% of the players that have ever played in either league wouldn’t stand a chance in the other, the rare Bo Jackson, Prime, Allen Iverson, Russell Westbrook, all can sort of be imagined, but only because of the edge to all of their games: Their level of athletic talent and the hardwork it took to maintain & maximize it. Past a certain height in Bball and it starts to be laughable unless your shaq, I think its not about toughness at certain dimensions, take an extreme example- I think we’d all agree KG was tough enough for football but he’d have been seriously injured by some edge of the roster middle linebacker that eats a salad with his hands at lunch if you put him on offense. He wouldn’t survive on defense. Too thin for all positions but DB, not fast/agile enough in short area to be effective there either. The same cuts the exact other way in football, Only your Big Bodies are going to be beating out NBA level skillsets on any kind of basis, sorry to everyone in the NFL under 6’0 because there simply aren’t that many guys that are gunna beat out the Chris Paul’s and Donovan Mitchells of the world. Unless one of those big boys has that legendary touch and can find a weight they can move in those sharp angle short areas like NBA guys and have some ups to em they better be the next Dennis Rodman or Charles Barkley on the boards.
Tim is completely out of pocket with this...z get ya man's
Miami heat is one of the ONLY teams that play zome defense
The argument would have been valid is the conversation was about people like Charlie Ward, Moe Ali, Curry from UNC ETC...
A rivers was a number one player in the country high school stop and made it to the league on his own
And was trash in the league
And wouldn’t be alive after 5 plays in the nfl
SPEED has to be stopped! Some folks should just be banned from this discussion seriously! Nobody in the NFL is beating a G-League player! There are CBB All-Americans that are overseas! All Tim had to do was dive deep into Antonio Gates timeline then let them try to defend that! But Antonio isn't the only one... Rico Gathers, Darren Fells, Mo Alie-Cox, and Quinten Rollins all made the transition from being primarily CBB players to the NFL. They all either played 0 snaps of college football or played 1 season after a 4 year bball career. There isn't one primarily college football player who can make that claim.
Honestly all the fb players would have to go to the G-league and bb players have to start at the ufl or CFL first
AI is a football player who had to play basketball cuz of the bowling alley situation