Saddle Bag or Jersey Pockets? The Best Way to Carry It All!

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  • Saddle Bag, Jersey Pocket or Something Else. What are the items that you Need on your rides and what is the best way to carry it all. In this video we will talk about finding the balance between everything you could carry to just focusing on what you need for your ride.
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  • @thegoodwheel
    @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Keep it simple. Take what you need. It's a bike ride!

    • @leonwalker8218
      @leonwalker8218 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody carries a string backpack??…in addition to a frame bag and one bottle of water on the frame…everything else goes in the backpack…ie…lock,2extra bottles of water,ID,money,an apple,repair kit,extra tube,house keys,and any miscellaneous items I may need for that day!

    • @tomkunich9401
      @tomkunich9401 ปีที่แล้ว

      All tools, miniature flat repair, spare tube, and CO2 go into a good saddle pack. Although the Silca flat pack seems clever, there's not sufficient room, and the twist cable is very difficult to get tight, and the pack can open and dump something out. I use the jersey pockets for a wallet, my phone, my glasses, a handkerchief, house keys, and the rubber walking covers for my Keo cleats. I have a small carry multitool, but I usually don't have room for it and only carry it on centuries. That's probably not the best idea, but those multitools are heavy. I also carry a decent sized mini pump in an attachment to the bottle screws.

    • @tomkunich9401
      @tomkunich9401 ปีที่แล้ว

      @leonwalker8218 - it's been very cold this year in the SF Bay Area, and even then, a backpack would be far too hot if you ride the hills. In the last 12 months, I have climbed 188,000 feet. I am presently so slow that I can't go on group rides anymore. Getting old isn't for sissies.

  • @kentan8536
    @kentan8536 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Lets face it, in the world of cycling, looking good is more important than logic.

    • @michaels8607
      @michaels8607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and that's called..How to die while riding a bike..

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats is very truthy👍🏾

    • @kalaalefaio5108
      @kalaalefaio5108 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both are possible at the exact same time! Good looks and logic are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    • @jimsjacob
      @jimsjacob 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true! Gotta look good!

    • @nickshiland608
      @nickshiland608 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      especially bc i’m slow

  • @The2808erik
    @The2808erik ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I like saddle bags the kit I need for every ride stays on the bike and I don't need to think about it. My jersey pockets are reserved for snacks, my phone and a rain jacket.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing👍🏾

    • @ricktan5663
      @ricktan5663 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One thing to watch out for saddle bags and even tool/jersey wallets. These will hold some moisture in them so if you have rustable tools, you may want to lube them or air out the saddle bag a few weeks or so.
      I had a USB battery pack rust on me and while the battery was fully charged, I couldn’t connect it to my GPS because the connector rusted and broke.
      Speaking of rust/corrosion, if you wear a heart rate monitor, it’s a good idea to unsnap both buttons going to the strap after your rides. Sweat is salty and salt corrodes

    • @amjan
      @amjan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricktan5663 Good point!

    • @Mrjasonjohn74
      @Mrjasonjohn74 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A suggestion that i also practice is to put things that would rust or you simply don’t want to get wet into ziplock bags and store then into your saddle bags or jersey pockets. That helps prevent moisture getting in.

    • @leftyseel8658
      @leftyseel8658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. Saddle bag has all the necessary roadside maintenance i need, except the pump which is in the jersey pocket along with nutrition, some cash, id and phone(zippered 4th pocket). I ride solo most of the time so it’s important to have everything i need.

  • @parmijo
    @parmijo ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would add to pack a tube with a long valve stem to fit your deepest rim if you run multiple bikes/wheelsets. You can always put a long stem on a shallow rim but can't put a short stem tube on a deep rim.

    • @sampreece
      @sampreece ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can always pack valve adapter, too!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏾

  • @mynsport
    @mynsport ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Luis, I always appreciate how pure your videos are in terms of giving the best, simple and practical advice. Thank you . I personally never leave home without my Road ID and heart rate monitor. Ciao guys !

  • @jimbrittain402
    @jimbrittain402 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Luis, you plan for what you expect? I plan for what I DON'T expect. I carry a big seatbag, with two tubes, two CO2's and inflator, tire levers, chain links, multi tool, tire boots, and a few extra things. And I carry a mini-pump on the frame. I mostly do club and group rides, so I carry for what the others don't. (And I'm with you on the complicated CO2 inflators; the simpler, the better.)

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Jim👍🏾

  • @perrymckenna2261
    @perrymckenna2261 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Congratulations on reaching 10,000 subscribers. I’m not surprised as your channel truly offers great content with an honest and down to earth presentation.

  • @KetoCyclist
    @KetoCyclist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Living in the Midwest, one critical item I have to have is.....Kleenex! My nose runs non-stop if the temperature is less than 60 degrees, and/or if it is really windy. I use a saddle bag for my tools and tube. My jersey pockets are dedicated for Kleenex, phone, SPF lip balm, and my car key. I have a bottle cage mount for my pump. This leaves a little room in my jersey pockets in the event where I have had to remove a layer and can shove the layer(s) in my jersey pockets. My last ride started out at 48 degrees with long tights and a wind jacket and ended at 70 degrees with shorts and short sleeves. 😂

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Never thought of Kleenex. Thanks for sharing👍🏾

  • @grahambowes756
    @grahambowes756 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another Uk viewer here. With our mixed weather, I’ll nearly always keep my Shakedry top in my jersey plus snacks. I’m running tubeless, so my bottle size tool holder, keeps all the tools and stuff for running repairs. I’ve recently started using a quadlock mount for my phone which is very secure and frees up space in the jersey. If I’m using arm warmers, I roll them down to the cuff if they get too warm, easy to pull back up and les risk of loosing them. All the best.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and sharing Graham👍🏾

  • @acampbell3795
    @acampbell3795 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you brother for your continued effort in making cycling better. And thank you for allowing me to participate in this 👊🏿

  • @TylesBrain
    @TylesBrain ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I take a backpack with a fully stocked first aid kit and tubes in multiple sizes in case I cross paths with someone that needs pretty much whatever

  • @schrodingersmatt6435
    @schrodingersmatt6435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When your kit has it, the radio pocket is a nice place to put ID, medical, credit cards. Seat rolls with boa dials are great if your back pockets are full of breakfast burrito.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing Matt👍🏾

  • @qibble455
    @qibble455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on busting 10k subs luis. I've been enjoying your vids for a while and wish you all the best going forward:)

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Qibble! I really appreciate that👍🏾

  • @anthonyjones1179
    @anthonyjones1179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a bum bag for my road rides, the same stuff is needed on both my road bikes so it works for me and has for the last 30 years.

  • @matthewmuente1363
    @matthewmuente1363 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your videos. I am a new cyclist, a former bodybuilder now coming over from the distance running world. I like to absorb as many tips as possible when I start something new. I have you on in the background while I'm at work, and I actually find the tone of your voice to be very calming during my panic-filled days in the finance world, lol

  • @johnflynn4923
    @johnflynn4923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10 out of 10 on the chain breaker and quick link - super low possibility of actually needing it but if required 99% of people wouldn't have either with them. Good vlog!

  • @atlantaswelder
    @atlantaswelder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! I really enjoyed the format 👊

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, glad you liked it👍🏾

  • @michaels8607
    @michaels8607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like Tim I carried a Camelback with tools, a tire, a tube, a few snacks, etc...I use the jersey pockets and I wear shorts over my bike shorts anyway, so I have a belt and pockets. I LOVE bibs, and didn't try them for a long time, and once I did on a century ride, I was hooked. Let's understand that if there's 10 of us, everyone does not need to carry the same tools and tubes/tires. What you need to do is not be too redundant, and since I am in NYC ,I also need to carry my 'act right'. ...I will suggest a great phone in an armored case with a solar charger. Also if you carry a Samsung Note style phone, make sure you connect your Dex to your home desktop/laptop,just in case you need to figure out something in an emergency. That half bottle thingy is called a MISSILE or howtostopyourbikandeveryoneelsecrashesandfliesoffacliff device. No thank you. I will freeze my bladder 2 days before a long ride, then freeze two waterbottles that go in the cages. I ride, drink the two, throw them away, and only keep the Camelback bladder. I rode a lot of of charity rides and it gets crazy. I have seen folks get jacked up and stuff go flying, because someone thinks they can handle a bike, until it gets tight. Once I am, riding over cobbles in Lower NYC, and my lights start rattling, and then zoom, to the ground they went, and then I had 400 lights. So I use one light in the back, one in front and certain types of mounts, and that includes bike computers,GPS...Looking for ward to s smart 4k tv and little stove, with a Wok, so I can cook and ride..Bottom line is this..My motto is, 21 riders leave their house and 25 come back safe and sound..PERIOD>>>

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Michael👍🏾

  • @michellesgoldberg
    @michellesgoldberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a saddle bag and take 2 tubes along with repair items. Items I need while I'm riding go into my pockets - lip balm, gels, asthma inhaler, hanky. I like to leave room in my pockets in case I take off my vest or arm warmers.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Michelle👍🏾

  • @timflorance4544
    @timflorance4544 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I use a camelbak backpack. Holds 70 ounces and has storage for tools, tubes, gels and its aero to boot. I also have bottles that I fill with ice tea and electrolytes. It’s what plants crave.
    Congratulations on 10k. Your content is fantastic. Keep going!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Tim👍🏾

    • @progrockUSA
      @progrockUSA ปีที่แล้ว

      I do the exact same thing, I love my camelbak.

  • @Olmud
    @Olmud ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad I sub'd to your channel. I've gotten some great tips. This video alone has helped me with some ride ides to try for take alongs and different ways (from what I normally do) to take them. We all have to find what works for us but some great thoughts. I also like how you ask some fellow riders what they do for some comparison.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Scott! I appreciate the support👍🏾

  • @SJCRUISER36
    @SJCRUISER36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on the 10k subscribers!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Brother! I appreciate you and your support👍🏾

  • @roadfert
    @roadfert ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Luis! I’ve been cycling since 87’ and we were using handlebar bags way back then, I’m glad to see they’re making a comeback.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      A strong comeback! So much easier to get them on modern bikes without the cables👍🏾

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a saddle bag for tools, spare tubes, and CO2. It's a very small cloth bag that fits into my several other under-saddle bags, which are necessary because of my different saddle arrangements. That way, I just grab the cloth bag and slip it into the bag that works on each bike. In my bottle cages I carry hydration. In my jersey pockets: phone, wallet, and food. I agree with Luis in this regard: if something more than a loose bolt or a single flat occurs, I'm calling for a lift. With that much bad luck, it's time to log it and take no more chances.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your method Ranger!

  • @ricecrash5225
    @ricecrash5225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did what Paula did and used the storage bottle. But when racing a gran fondo and not able to stop you have to run saddle bag and two water bottles.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true. Thanks for sharing Rice!

  • @michaelstoecker4178
    @michaelstoecker4178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another well-done video. Thank you.

  • @paddlestandingup
    @paddlestandingup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Small saddlebag for tube, patch kit, small multi tool, and dynaplug. Wallet for phone, ID, cash in jersey pocket. Gels and bars in the side jersey pockets.

  • @elcorijns9708
    @elcorijns9708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a few things nice to have that don't take up any room, are a few cable ties and a few feet of ducttape around your minipump.......out in the sticks a derailleurhanger is a good thing to have

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely! Experience dictates what works best 👍🏾

  • @dmengle-6538
    @dmengle-6538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting repurposing of your RoadID! ))) Great channel Luis, thanks!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you D Mengle! At the time it was the best think I had to wrap that tire👍🏾

  • @newoldsteel
    @newoldsteel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10k LETS GO!! Congrats on that.
    But I remember when I first started riding over 10 years ago with my first bike I bought a mini pump and it was TERRIBLE. But recently bought one from Shimano's "pro" line and it's been phenomenal so I 100% agree with you there.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is amazing how good they have become👍🏾

  • @garrywallah4966
    @garrywallah4966 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the videos my man!! I gotta go with jersey pockets all about being as aero as possible

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Garry👍🏾

  • @mib7483
    @mib7483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time viewer and enjoyed the video. I use a Silca saddle bag to carry tools, tube and a hand wipe. In my Jersey I carry a pump like yours, phone, nutrition and a BleedStop packet. I am on blood thinners so if I have an accident that is important for me. On my gravel bike I have a top tube bag for nutrition and also have a small pack to carry spare things. My gravel rides are very long and remote so I also have a Garmin InReach.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Dale. It is a good point you bring up about being peefor personal or medical contingencies 👍🏾

  • @juanaguilar7458
    @juanaguilar7458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the look on your face when you brought up top tube bags; I'm in that same camp, not doing it lol
    I carry a saddle bag: (1) inner tube (3)CO2 canisters (1) CO2 inflator (1) Multitool, crank bros M19 (1) or 2 tire levers
    Phone on a phone mount
    mollee first aid bag out front on the handlebars: (1) Aluminum splint (8) rolls of gauze (4) packets of antibiotic ointment (2) rolls of self adhering bandages (1) torniquet. Its surprisingly small for what it carries. Overkill... probably, till it isn't. Do I think everyone on a ride needs to carry this? No.
    I think first aid kids are silly, like the ones with the bandaids. If its a small enough cut or scrape you can do without til you get back, that's why I carry for not so small things.
    I can help 1 person with a puncture or broken limb
    or like 12 people with largeish cuts/ scrapes.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha ha. Good use of your inventory!

  • @gloryhound
    @gloryhound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Paola's "Now I enjoy life more" wisdom!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And she really means it👍🏾

    • @mynsport
      @mynsport ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tks !!! 😅

  • @n22pdf
    @n22pdf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoo well done on 10k you deserve many more Luis 🚴🏅🤩👍 great info as always

    • @tman5634
      @tman5634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said Pete, I totally agree with you.
      Luis puts out very valued videos that are applicable to many cyclists in the real world.
      Have a great day all

    • @n22pdf
      @n22pdf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tman5634 from watching this one.. I've just ordered a Rapha and Le Col jersey wallets :) get rid of the saddle bag :)

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Pete! Thank you T Man. I apprecite it👍🏾

  • @Penguin_117
    @Penguin_117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great videos , being in the UK I love the sunny weather and smooth roads! I take any tools in fake water bottle so no saddle bag as interfere with rear light and I keep pockets as empty as possible for gilet or warmers if needed. Rarely need to use both cages😀

  • @letheal
    @letheal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A spare quick link set is a must. I just carry a single Pedro. Once you get under it you don't need to hook it just put your hand on the tire to make sure the tire bead stays over the rim and swipe it. That method might not work on extremely tight tires though.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      ... or for feebly cycling arms😂

  • @TheMerckxProject
    @TheMerckxProject ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE seeing someone else who re-purposes and old RoadiD strap. I usually use mine to strap my spare innertube, burrito-wrapped in a piece of another, busted innertube to protect it, under my saddle where the saddle bag would usually go. I then carry a ride wallet system with a co2 and a mini multi tool on my back. I like my system because I use multiple bikes and don't have to worry about getting the right inner tube for the right bike whenever I ride, and also because the wallet means I don't need multiple sets of everything to sit in a saddle bag on each different bike.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing your method Stephen👍🏾

  • @cosinus_square
    @cosinus_square ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on 10k, big milestone. Interesting topic. For group rides I use a small front triangle bag (Cube Acid? iirc) for house keys, phone, pump, multi tool, dynaplug a velcro strap and a few gels. I run tubeless, am absolutely not messing around with tubes in tubeless tyres, can't fix the puncture, the ride is over. For weekday mornings solo training rides before work, I run tubed (high mileage, cheaper) so only carry a glueless patch kit, small pump, 1 tyre lever, phone and house keys. I do have a separate rando bike with a proper front bag for rides over 200k.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that COSINUS👍🏾

  • @jimyoder6594
    @jimyoder6594 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a first time viewer. I hit the subscribe button as soon as I recognized your experience and your sensibleness. I look forward to catching more of your future content. Best of luck to you!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Jim. I appreciate the support. New content coming soon👍🏾

  • @kevinfrost1579
    @kevinfrost1579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luis great to see the channel growing and all the good stuff being shared. You offer absolutely the best advice ……prepare in advance and make it fit for what you’re doing. All carry methods good depending upon personal preferences. I’d add extra electrical/gaffer tape around seat tube to mark seat height and for mechanical fixes, cable tie bundle slipped into bar end, lengthen standard bottle cage bolts so you have stem bolt replacements always on the bike. If riding outside your own country always carry your passport, travel insurance and emergency contact (external peel back sticker for helmet gives immediate access). Legal requirement in many countries. Might not seem so important but essential when you need it. Spoken from past experience. Great job 👍 👏👏👏

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing that Kevin👍🏾

  • @Thenovicecyclist
    @Thenovicecyclist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man congrats on the 10k. You should come over to Tx for a few rides!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thank you! I have friends there and will get out there soon👍🏾

  • @michaelcapilla1828
    @michaelcapilla1828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New subscriber, enjoying your content. Couple of new ways I've found more recently to carry stuff is a bottle cage on the lower side of the downtube, on some newer bikes especially gravel bikes, for a storage bottle and the other is a feed bag/stem bag. The first is for flat repair and tools that I don't need to access frequently and the feed bag is for accessing while riding, ie snacks, lip balm, phone and it's also big enough to hold a windbreaker.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing Michael... and supporting the channel!

  • @almightyyotto
    @almightyyotto ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great advice. I'll be sure to order a few jerseys so I can stow my items

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Otto!

    • @almightyyotto
      @almightyyotto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thegoodwheel the pleasure is all mines Luis. Great channel btw

  • @tkingnz
    @tkingnz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, good tips Luis. I use my pockets as well, but I always put my spare tubes in a plastic bag to reduce the chance of getting a hole in them.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Tony👍🏾

  • @christopherschaefer8279
    @christopherschaefer8279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm inspired to stop using a saddle bag and get a jersey wallet and use pockets. Thanks Luis!

  • @thepandaman
    @thepandaman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Used to be a saddlebag fan but recently switched to the tool bottle as quicker to switch between a couple of bikes. Tyre levers, mini pump mounted to the frame, spare tube, multi-tool, small patch kit, small bag of spares (M5 bolt, quick link, brake pads, zip tie). Seems overkill for short rides, but means I don't have to assess differently for longer rides. Always ride on my own though, so never had the need for CO2 canister as not holding anyone up besides myself.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing your insights

  • @kennethward9530
    @kennethward9530 ปีที่แล้ว

    I roll with the following:
    Small saddle bag holding 2 tubes, patch kit, tire levers, spoke wrench, small multi tool, small chain tool (habit from MTB and tandem riding), Benadryl for bee stings, a couple band-aids, and small bills for snack or tire boot. Wrapping tubes in sandwich baggies helps prevent abrasion from tools.
    Frame pump on bike (steel bike, so why not?). Mine doesn't have matching paint job, but that is opportunity for more bling.
    2 bottles, because of hot, and dogs on some routes.
    When doing club race, leave bag and pump at start finish line. You did ride to the club race, right?
    Phone and ID go in ziplock bag in pocket. (Helps phone survive the odd sprinkler prime) Food in pocket. Also, rain jacket, arm and leg warmers can go in pockets as day warms up.
    Knock wood, I've never had to call for ride home, and have met a couple acquaintances on the road as I had that one thing which got them home .

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your method Kenneth👍🏾

  • @charlesbeauregardgreusard5251
    @charlesbeauregardgreusard5251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, What I always have with me for a ride is cash $$ and a cell. Cash is king! It can buy : water, food, part or a ride home.
    That’s always first in my pockets.
    Thank for your videos

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that Charles👍🏾

  • @rrosomasa
    @rrosomasa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, good to know you can hook the tyre levers to the spoke like that, thank you for the info!

  • @kristamcnamee1456
    @kristamcnamee1456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent advice. There’s one thing of the many essentials for a ride, is my taillight radar especially for long distances outside the city.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is definitely an essential Krista. Thanks for sharing👍🏾

  • @antsmands
    @antsmands ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jersey pockets only for me unless off road, then a handle bar bag! Good video!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you antsmands👍🏾

  • @JimiPresha
    @JimiPresha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty much the same as you Luis, never a saddle bag, use my pockets, no Co2 just a mini pump (same lezyne one u use) tubes x2, tyre levers, multi tool, spare quick chain link an some zip ties. & these days my phone which is a big safety net that I once was used to riding without!
    If its cool (I am in uk) or not riding far it all goes in a storage bottle except mini pump and one spare tube which goes in my pockets along with my food.
    If you maintain an check your bike regularly you rarely get more than a puncture, I've been riding 40 years, one broken chain & once double punctured.
    A lot of people carry way too much, but maybe if you don't check your bike regularly/thoroughly that's sensible

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Jimmy! It is so true what you've said about bike checks. It makes a world of difference 👍🏾

  • @bonbonflippers4298
    @bonbonflippers4298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All my training rides are with a storage container and 1 bottle water. On long rides I bring out the saddle bag or handlebar bag. Long rides are endurance rides so no sprinting.
    I think it also depends on where you ride. Rides that are away from the main roads requires different tools and space. I I use my jersey pockets for food and spare clothing accessories. All my tools are never in my pockets.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Bondon👍🏾

  • @BartAnderson_writer
    @BartAnderson_writer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heloful suggestions.
    The question of what to carry highlights the different requirements for different types of rides.
    You emphasize road riding here. It's so different from touring, doing around-town chores, commuting, riding in rain and snow, randonee.

  • @jrh1704
    @jrh1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy always makes good bike videos!

  • @laszlozoltan5021
    @laszlozoltan5021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love hearing your fellows take on things- damn, it sure would be nice to ride with you folks- you seem like a real good bunch of folks. I dont travel anymore- home is home for me but yeah- you lucky, man.

  • @endcensorship874
    @endcensorship874 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another option to consider is that you can get a kit that goes in the bar ends. Multi tool, inflator, plug tool, chain breaker.

    • @cecilecorpuz5735
      @cecilecorpuz5735 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been using my bar ends for such a thing for well over 40 years and it works mostly for patching material.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏾

  • @duttyvegan
    @duttyvegan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content has always, I use both, a micro saddle bag and a rapha case, but I don’t like to look like a Michelin man when on the bike, when I see some people on there bikes and they full the Jersey to the brim, not happen for me, I like to look good on the bike also and have that feel good factor 👊🏾 🇬🇧

  • @angela-onesroman8873
    @angela-onesroman8873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the newer flat bags, I have the silca mattone seat pack, it's very compact but fits _ the essentials, it also has the Boa twist. My go to right now.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely, those are gaining in popularity 👍🏾

  • @SchlagerFreund
    @SchlagerFreund ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For my gravelbike, I have a top-tube bag. That has enough space for a multi-tool, ture-levers, a compact air-pump, inner tube and still enough space for my keys, usb charging cable and some money in case I need to abandon the ride and use a bus, train etc.
    One of my roadbikes has a saddle bag that I reinforced with good zip-ties. It is rock solid and doesnt dangle at all. That also has enough space for the stuff mentioned above. I usually use my jersey pockets for food and my phone (my jerseys usually have one pocket that can be zipped shut.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your method👍🏾

  • @leftyseel8658
    @leftyseel8658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jersey wallets look nice, i can fit my phone, 7-inch pump, cash, other stuff. Problem is, here in the Philippines, there’s a lot of thieves on motorcycles, and since these wallets pop out about an inch at the top of the cycling jersey, they’re easy to pick. So i never carry one. Got a compact saddle bag that has two tubes, multi tool, patch kit, tire levers, missing link and glueless patches. As for the jersey pockets, the zippered side pocket has my phone and id, the rest of the 3 pockets has nutrition, 7-inch lezyne mini pump, some money, etc. Tool bottles are ok but i drink a lot so i always have two water bottles.
    For longer rides, i have a bigger saddle bag, waterproof with 1.5L capacity, that can carry everything in the saddle bag, mini pump, it is spacious enough for other stuff and i can put the phone in there if it’s raining hard. Got a bar bag too as another option to the 1.5L saddle bag.

  • @Technotranceism
    @Technotranceism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For comfort reasons, I prefer the minimal amount of items on person, and the repair parts in a saddle bag.

  • @cecilecorpuz5735
    @cecilecorpuz5735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm old school, 45 years plus and I'm still rolling on sew-up tubular tires, so to say no need for tire levers and a patch kit. And I basically stuff my spare tire in a normal everyday foot sock and strap it onto my saddle with a old school pedal toe strap, my pump will be an old school frame pump, best thing about using such a pump over mini pumps, will be the volume of air that you will get with one long stroke. For me, forget all the gels and bars, 2 or 3 bananas in the jersey pockets is for me, 100% organic as some would say. On my touring do everything bicycle I will use standard clinchers, tire levers and patching material are stored in my handlebar, one side will have 2 tire levers and the other will store my patching material, 2 patches a tube of glue and a small strip of sanding material, I'll use expander type bar plugs, on my key chain I have a modified screwdriver for the unscrewing of the bar plug to access my tire repair kit, also stored away in the bars will be some emergency $$$.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for these tips Cecile👍🏾

  • @DrGIzmoBRad
    @DrGIzmoBRad ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as a spare tire, tools, and extra water (on my fixed gear track bike) ~ Spare tubular, multi Allen key, and a 15mm nut wrench / tire lever under the saddle with a toe strap. I've got a dual bottle cage mounted to the seat post that carries two small bottles, and one down tube cage for a large bottle. Food primarily goes in the jersey pockets. My 1st post heart surgery ride (+4 months) happened last weekend - 10 miles in 57 minutes. Good to be spinning again.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you have a good recovery! Thanks for sharing👍🏾

  • @RScesium
    @RScesium ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos to you for eye safety!
    Great video.

  • @LLewis-vu9qf
    @LLewis-vu9qf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I don't wear jerseys so that kinda reduces my options a bit. My ride is a trike. I wanted a handlebar bag but couldn't find one in my local bike shop. I did find a top tube bag that I was able to attach to my handlebar since there is no top tube on my trike. My bag holds my gloves, mirror, a couple of tools and any food I plan on taking. My phone is in the top pocket of the bag.
    I have only one good spot on the frame where I can attach a water bottle. I prefer to ride with two bottles so the second one is in the back basket along with my hand pump.
    My rides aren't nearly as long or as fast as all you folks, averaging 10 to 12 miles with the occasional 15 to 18 mile ride, plenty far enough for me. 😊 Good video. 👍

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing ypur method L Lewis 👍🏾

  • @sklegg
    @sklegg ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s funny that this video should appear in my feed today. I did a long ride this morning and left my top tube and handlebar bag at home and used my jersey pockets for the first time. It works great. I do have a saddle bag with items to use in case of a mechanical. Luckily I didn’t need them myself but I did loan my multi tool to another rider to make some adjustments.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching. Jersey pockets are handy👍🏾

  • @cobbiepalm6790
    @cobbiepalm6790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just want to say you have the Philippines on board and appreciating!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Cobbie! I love the Philippines ❤

  • @beyond990
    @beyond990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My must have is my Garmin RTL510 and head unit. Depending on the length of the ride and how remote it is depends on how I carry bike spares either in a SMALL saddle bag or bottle cage holder, leaving pockets for food and phone. Also some events have requirements, I'm riding Etape Loch Ness in Scotland next weekend and they mandate that you need to carry two water bottles. One advantage of saddle bag or bottle box is they can be left on the bike and your always ready to go especially if you commute and are running late 😮

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing that Martin... and good look in your event👍🏾

  • @anglumangsiklista
    @anglumangsiklista ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent tip!

  • @johnlondon7620
    @johnlondon7620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will always carry a small can of pepper spray. It fits in my right back pocket. You just never know. I use a real small saddle bag for tire repair, a spare tube, 2 or 3 air cans, tire pry and of course an apple airtag. Multi-tool. air inflator, pepper spray goes in the right pocket. Food in the middle pocket and phone in the left pocket. And always a mirror on the glasses.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      John thanks for sharing your method👍🏾

  • @daviddjerassi
    @daviddjerassi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic your first ten thousand i raise my bottle to your next ten love the video thank you Luis.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for all your support David👍🏾

  • @anthonyfurio8408
    @anthonyfurio8408 ปีที่แล้ว

    My "must have" item? A Swiss Army knife with a corkscrew because it's no fun breaking down in Chianti without one! Thank you for your great opinions and tips!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching 👍🏾

  • @ulrimi30
    @ulrimi30 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saddlebag for essential repair kit. That way you never forget to bring a tool/co2/etc... Jersey pockets are for nutrition, phone, rain jacket if chance of rain.

  • @trevorhawk2000
    @trevorhawk2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the content, I downsized my saddle bag, so just I just carry spare tube, multi tool, levels and mini torque set and more importantly, a set of latex gloves, to keep the hands clean during any mechanicals. Jersey pockets carry phone, card/money and nutrition items to keep the timbre frame, looking half decent.

  • @toriwangjanim4886
    @toriwangjanim4886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Handlebar bag has a large aero/wattage penalty. Frame bag is the way to go. I use a 4.5L bag which easily fits tubes, co2, multitool, handpump, wallet, snacks, etc.

  • @kenschwarz8057
    @kenschwarz8057 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic. I bring alcohol wipes and Band Aides, just in case. Needed them more than once, and not just for myself. Alcohol wipes are also great for cleaning hands after changing a tire or worse. Also bring a pair of nitrile gloves, which can keep hands clean but can be impossible to put on when it’s hot. However, when it’s cold, they can give you an extra layer of warmth under your regular gloves that can be a life saver.

  • @MrKockabilly
    @MrKockabilly 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use saddle bags for the things that my BIKE needs (multitool, spare tube, etc.) and jersey pockets for my PERSONAL needs (phone, snack, cash, etc.)

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

  • @Omnis2
    @Omnis2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:10 The saddle bag on my bike is a Cannondale Contain, large. A few notes: I was 300 lbs when I started riding 5-6 months ago, so I was always really paranoid about having a flat. I recently did a century and my bottle cages were occupied by liquids for all the training rides, necessitating a saddle bag. I went with something that was as secure as I could find while also having the most usable space for its size. With a dedicated utility bag, I can free up a bottle cage for a bluetooth speaker, lol. I'm not worried about it being added weight or an aero penalty. I bring enough of that to the table already.
    One thing I learned on my police-escorted/rolling-roadblock/full-SAG century ride is that you should ALWAYS carry first-aid. If you have a saddle bag, throw at least some Quik-clot or plain gauze in there. One of the riders on the big ride had a bad fall and a severe scalp laceration and nobody was carrying anything to help her (another rider was holding pressure on the wound with her bare hands). Even the police that were on scene didn't have gauze or ANY kind of first-aid in their vehicles. We had to wait for another car that had a kit after the police radioed for help, and then it took another few minutes for EMS to arrive. Be a good person and a good cyclist by being prepared to help others.

    • @BrianRPaterson
      @BrianRPaterson ปีที่แล้ว

      Cannondale makes some good seat packs. I have one that's at least 25 years old and still going strong.

    • @ricktan5663
      @ricktan5663 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you get a a scalp laceration? No helmet?

    • @Omnis2
      @Omnis2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricktan5663 Improperly-fitted helmet. Might have hit against someone's frame, or just split open from the floor. Either way, heads bleed a lot. My point was, even on a massive, highly organized, planned charity ride, things can happen. Sterile gauze weighs nothing and is easy to pack. Bring it.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing and participating Marc👍🏾

  • @reginaldscot165
    @reginaldscot165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Italian auntie is called Paola, they are surprisingly similar in attitude and mannerisms. 😁

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ciao to Auntie👋🏾

  • @ricktan5663
    @ricktan5663 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saddlebag with 2 tubes, tire levers, multitool with chain breaker, patch kit, presta/shraeder adapter, money/credit card, expired drivers license, house/car key, usb charger.
    On the bike next to the water bottle cage is a mini pump, cycling computer, front lights and rear lights.
    The patch kit extends the number of tubes you have and is very small/light. If you get a small puncture, replace the old tube with a new one and keep the old tube. If you get another puncture on the new tube, you can patch the old tube and swap it in again.
    The presta/schraeder adapter is small and lets you use a gas station air compressor to inflate your tires to full pressure.
    Be careful with the CO2 chuck or mini pump chuck that screws into the presta valve. I have seen those unscrew the valve core. If using a mini pump and the valve core unscrews, then you just have to pump the tire up again. If using the CO2 and the valve core unscrews, you just wasted a CO2 cartridge.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Rick! Thanks for sharing those solid tips. The mini pump unscrewing the valve can ruin your day... and having the presta schrader adapter is old school genius 👍🏾

  • @goodoleme747
    @goodoleme747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that jersey wallet... I'm going to look into getting one.

  • @peterhausamann5923
    @peterhausamann5923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use spare bidon for spare tube wrapped in a sock (my hand rag), a puncture kit, a pointed nail for digging out glass/wire, a $5 plastic bill for shielding inner tube from a slashed tyre wall; and 2 tyre levers. I could go without the puncture kit since I only end up using it about twice a year. Jersey pockets for debit card, a few allen keys, iPhone, a few figs (for rides over 70km), and pump. My ex pro friend only carries an innertube taped under seat, credit card and a pump in back pocket (he never needs tyre levers).

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Peter. Gotta love those hard core guys that don't use tire levers👍🏾

  • @arvinl
    @arvinl ปีที่แล้ว

    Use either canister storage or handlebar bag for spare, 2x levers, patches, wolftooth pliers & rubber gloves. handlebar bag holds snacks, phone, ID & cash.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing your method👍🏾

  • @Gravitationalist
    @Gravitationalist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's good to carry a spare derailleur hanger but you also need something to hold it so that you can unscrew the bolt. A small adjustable wrench is what I needed.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that is major repair on rides 👍🏾

    • @Gravitationalist
      @Gravitationalist ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegoodwheel I broke it when I clipped a curb and fell a half mile from home. Lucky that I wasn't 50 miles away without the wrench to hold the broken half. Lesson learned.

  • @christopherharmon9336
    @christopherharmon9336 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a frame-mounted mini-pump, and a seat bag with a spare tube, patch kit, STEEL CORE tire levers, and a mini-tool on all my bikes. Tweezers!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, tweezers for the pesky invisible flat culprit👍🏾

  • @sedliska
    @sedliska 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have changed my ways. I dont carry bike tools with me anymore. I use tubeless with inserts. If I get a flat and the sealant wont do its job I still will be able to ride back home thanks to the inserts.

  • @Kelekona_808
    @Kelekona_808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's cool that the friends of the channel are the background of your talking head video sections.

  • @user-rv4mq3xv3p
    @user-rv4mq3xv3p ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a small Deuter top tube bag (0.5L) and a medium EVOC saddle bag...In these I have 2 pedros levers, 2x16g CO2, Tubeless "anchovie" plug kit, tiny multi tool and a separate Topeak chain tool, 2 x 28c inner tubes, tyre boot, 10 and 11spd quick link, spare mech hanger and a mini-pump. I have a Deuter triangle frame bag but being "S" there's room for either 2 water bottles or 1 and the bag...I usually go with the 2 bottles. I'm rural and there's no taxis, public transport and "get out easy's" often no phone signal, so try and cover all contingencies (still need to fill the bar ends with zip ties )... I can at a push get creative with the triangle bag and have it upside down under the nose of the seat.... Oh and a "Pak-A-Jak" velcroed under the front of the top tube as the weather forecasts are a joke.... anything beyond this I'd probably fit the Tortec Velocity rear rack and add 2 small panniers..... gels go in the jersey or jacket but trying to wean off of those and get better fat adapted!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing👍🏾

  • @bugabutu
    @bugabutu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use Smrt Hydration cargo water bottle. Does storage and water that twists off so I can do away with my saddle bag and look cool most of the time

  • @renecarballo5831
    @renecarballo5831 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the handlebar bag. I put everything I need there.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Rene👍🏾

  • @md-wg4bz
    @md-wg4bz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was riding with a friend and he got a flat. After he changed the flat, I stood there as he walked across a large parking lot to throw his inner tube away. After walking back, I said, “You could have put that tube in your Jersey pocket, they’re not there for decorations.” 😂

  • @chrisweidner
    @chrisweidner ปีที่แล้ว

    100% one Pedro tire lever and one lever with the old school hook is the perfect combo.

  • @OldDavo1950
    @OldDavo1950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After a right shoulder reconstruction and replacement. I now carry a small frame bag. As the shoulder does not have the rotation anymore to reach into my back pocket on the right. Just one of the compromises you have to make. Dont mind it actually, Multi tool, minipump, and some bars and gels. Thats it. Left pocket for wallet and phone. At 73 not into the image thing now. All about practicality.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep rolling David! I appreciate you sharing that tip on overcoming mobility 👍🏾

  • @davidparker8475
    @davidparker8475 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video Luis.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you David!

  • @Gufolicious
    @Gufolicious ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tube, co2, miniratchet with exactly 2 inserts, chainbreaker+quicklink. If something else happens i consider my ride done.

  • @bengt_axle
    @bengt_axle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1) A credit card and some cash. 2) A glueless patch (and ideally an alcohol cleaning pad). I carry a spare tube, but sometimes it is good to be able to fix someone's tube without giving up your own, or having a way to fix your spare. 3) A few energy chews because they have good shelf life. I prefer to eat dates or nuts or bananas for energy and only keep gels or chews as an emergency measure to prevent bonking. 4)On a long ride in remote areas, I take a chain breaker and master links for 10 and 11 speed. 5) sunglass cleaning cloth (very small and light, but surprisingly useful on sweaty days!). 6) Mapsme or offline map on my phone. 7)road ID on wrist (not married, lol).

    • @ricktan5663
      @ricktan5663 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have used the glue less patch kits and they are not as good as the glue ones.
      Actually, the glue type is actually a vulcanizing fluid with a small flexible rubber patch.
      I had a puncture that I repaired with the glue less ones, after I got home, I was able to peel the patch off the tube.
      For the vulcanizing patch, trying to peel the patch off will tear the tube because the vulcanizing process chemically bonds the patch to the tube so that it is one piece of rubber.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Suglass cleaning cloth is a game changer👍🏾

  • @crosslink1493
    @crosslink1493 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two methods - 1. An extra-large saddlebag that typically would be used by a bikepacker. It has a bout 3L of space inside so holds everything, even a spare jacket you don't need after the cool morning, an extra water bottle, snacks, repair tools, etc, and you don't have to scrunch everything in. 2. A seatpost rack with a stuff bag held on by a bungee cord. Bigger than my #1 so can hold more for an all-day ride. Do they even sell seatpost racks anymore? They clamp on to the seatpost (can't be used with a CF seatpost), and you can stuff the bag with extra clothes, tools, water, food, etc. Use the bungee cord to lash the sack to the seatpost rack. Easy.

  • @BrianRPaterson
    @BrianRPaterson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My indispensible item is a decent mini-tool. Virtually every ride something needs tightening up or adjusting.
    My favourite, and my cheapest is the Topeak Mini 9. It's tiny and does almost everything I need except breaking a chain.
    I've given up taking a chain tool along. I've needed one twice in 30 years of riding, and the last time was probably 20 years ago. I don't know if chains are tougher or I've just been lucky!
    Cheers

    • @stopbanningmeonets3514
      @stopbanningmeonets3514 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re adjusting / tightening up something every ride??

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Chain breaking on rides is so rare and usually a sign of poor maintenance. If you are up on it, you should be good👍🏾