Nicolas Cage mowing down the soldiers is supposed to be a serious moment but somehow he makes it hilarious between his screaming and the gun that apparently never needs to be reloaded.
Look, I really do apprechiate the genuine size of this Battle Scene, the number of extras, the presence of so much genuine WW2-equipment and the seeming emphasis on doing as much as possible in-camera without much CGI... ...but in a post-"Saving Private Ryan"/"The Thin Red Line"-era, this feels weirdly outdated. Less like a genunine WW2-movie and more like an over-the-top John Woo-directed Action Flick that _happens to be set during WW2._
I didn’t know much about the Navajo talkers until this movie. Afterwards, I did some research and it makes for interesting history. Deep respect to the Navajo talkers. They had been treated poorly by the US Government and people in general, yet their contribution is under appreciated. IIRC, the Japanese never learned the Navajo language.
@@baddreams0919 Native Americans were treated the worst, near genocide, broken treaties, stolen land. But no one talks reparations for them, even if, it won't happen.
Those scene were important to portray that the Japanese set up their main line further back from the landing point and the Americans were funneling through the valley which was under constant Japanese enfilade Artillery fire.
0:50 Really have to give props to the stuntman in this shot, he did a backflip into a 10 foot deep pit and went back first onto a solid wooden crate. Looked like he ate the whole thing too
Fleming Begaye Sr. one of the 400 Navajo code talkers in the Marines, born in Red Valley, in 1921, died in Chinle, Arizona on May 10th, 2019. Now only seven code talkers remain. ~ IMDb
@@ruthlessmofo Nope-----likely nobody will be talking in the next great conflict. And you may want a new tribe anyway----because our enemies would suspect this language?
@@dednianterimikate5082 Guessing they went to families that were very happy to see them-----just like always happens to us returning veterans. But I got back to work 2 days after getting out of the service-----and that's pretty much what happens. You return to 'normal' life---no parades like in the Movies.
When this movie came out, my grandfather decided he would go and watch it with me in the theaters, or tried to I should say. He was in the 1st Marine Division during the war, and although his unit wasn't on Saipan, he attributed it immediately when this scene started to the carnage and tenacity they had faced on Peleliu and he got up and ran out of the theater with tears in his eyes. I've never felt so much guilt in my life than to have put him through that. He had never told me much about what he had experienced in the Pacific, other than the fact he had been there, but that was proof to me that he had seen the gates of Hell with his own eyes.
I know the feeling, unfortunately. Although I served in Iraq. I could watch war movies with no problem. But any war movies on Iraq, I can’t do it. It takes me back to some dark times. Please tell your Grandfather welcome home and thank him for serving our great nation!
My grandad made the landing the 4th division and was seriously wounded. He wasn’t alive to see the modern war classics like BoB, Saving Private Ryan, etc. I often wonder what he would think ab them when I am watching them.
This movie is one we need need to remake. The title is "Windtalkers"; I want to know more about the Windtalkers and less whatever Nicolas Cage is. Redo the movie and start to finish be about them. What it's like to be living on a reservation in the 30's and 40's, the motivation for why they signed up, what happened to them after the war. They deserve a better movie.
Could’ve just sent Nicholas Cage by himself. He would’ve won the battle on his own. Also, his machine gun never runs out of ammo, which is an advantage.
This is a Hollywood movie. What can you expect from a Hollywood movie? Hollywood can do anything impossible to possible. Besides there are many gullibles who wants to believe in invincibility.
@@JohnJohn-pe5kr Saving Private Ryan AND Band of Brothers were both directed by the same man, Steven Spielberg. Spielberg has always put accuracy at the forefront of his World War II collection (BoB, SPR, The Pacific), and he based most of his work off of actual biographies and inputs from real war veterans. Windtalkers was a Hollywood movie, with the directors more concerned about action and sales than realism and a history.
Famed actor Lee Marvin was a GI at the Saipan landing and action. He was known for wryly saying "A Purple Heart [ribbon medal] is actually something you really don't want to get because of how you qualify for it."
Scout Sniper actually and Marine, He starred in dozens of classic movies like The Dirty Dozen with Donald Sutherland and Emperor Of The North, Army GIs and Marines fought side by side on Saipan
@@Dandan-vf9kr they all were soldiers that were ordered to be there. both sides. I'm sure both would rather be someplace else and let the fat lazy leaders battle it out hand to hand so they themselves would be the one's suffering.
Respect to any allied nation that fought the Japanese. The British fought the Japanese in the far east Burma, Malaya and took back Singapore and Hong Kong.
I'm am an Filipino, born in Saipan I am so so surprised that they have made a movie all about my islands history. And yes we have the closest beaches and it only takes 2 minutes to go at😂❤.
I knew America had some great weapons, but I'm super impressed by the hand grenades that cause gigantic fireballs while also causing slow-motion and dramatic music.
It's impressive but it's 1944 tech. Also the US had a perk called infinite ammo. The Japanese were very jealous. Most of them didn't even have one bullet. All they could do was run screaming towards the US soldiers to get mowed down with no pain. FUn fact, Japanese soldiers never get wounded. Always killed straight.
Why do they always use V-type engine sounds when portraying radial engined planes? Also, those Hellcats at 1:20 are WAY too low to be dropping their bombs. Dropping your bombs from that low always results in getting blown up yourself.
I agree, hellcats are dive bombers and that means that they need to be dropping bombs at least 1000 meters above grounds, correct me if I'm not wrong though, those hellcats are doing a different attack called glide bombing, however, when doing a glide bombing, the planes should always have their nose slightly upward within 900 meters above ground to avoid getting damaged by shrapnel or avoid getting caught up in the explosion of a 500 pound bomb
@@michaelmurray11189 yeah and its actually cool, because many stuart were used in pacific rather than europe since the japanese didnt have many anti tank weapons
Nic Cage: "Wait, how many rounds do I fire? What? That's not nearly enough; I have to cycle between fear, joy, anger, and then back to anger-joy...it's gonna take some time. Scriptwriter: *empties authentic clip into head*
What could you expect from John Woo. The guy almost single handedly destroyed the Mission Impossible Franchise with his cartoonish take on the series. His career in Hollywood was pretty much over after that "realistic" war drama.
@@DeosPraetorian I'm a total fan of the Mission Impossible franchise and the number 2 (so appropriately numbered...) was, by far, the worst. Not a disaster but for the MI a total dud.
Fun little fact, if you pause at 4:02 and look to the right, you can just see one of the pyrotechnic guys and in the windscreen vision you can see him completely 😂.
I feel like we were spoiled for choice back in the early 2000's for war movies. Windtalkers wasn't considered a good movie in comparison to Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers, but watching this clip it doesn't seem that bad. The battle scenes look good, no CGI, the extras look good, working tanks, artillery pieces, everything seems pretty real. The acting wasn't very good but I can tell they were at least trying to make a real effort for realism.
I lived in Saipan for several years and although not filmed there they at least got the location, angles and even the right mountain profiles in the background.
Nicolas Cage fires the first Thompson sub-machine gun with a 1,000 round magazine and wins the Pacific War all on his own coz everyone else is just looking at him and not fighting at all!
@@UppedOne Minus the inaccuracy the Thompson was actually preferred over the M1 Carbine in the Asiatic Pacific theatre, The M1 Carbine fired a pistol caliber round similar to that of the .357 magnum but the .45 ACP can knock down a Japanese soldier in an instant
I really don't understand the hate of this movie. Like. It's not the first Hollywood War film to have war inaccuracies like clip size And it sure as hell not gonna be the last. Nicolas cage will always be Nicolas Cage but didn't think it was a bad war movie 🤷♂️
It’s not a war movie, it’s an action movie set during a war. John woo’s “unique” directing makes this movie, that was supposed to be a homage to the duties of the Navajo Code Talkers turn into a run-n-gun Nicolas Cage parody. It’s almost laughable were it not for the personal bias I had against it of anticipating a movie that does the heroes of the pacific Justice only to be met with this nearly 2 hour joke. Kudos to Roger Willie being the only actual Navajo whose role was relegated to a side character and the main “Indian” actor was Adam Beach, who was also sidelined for the real protagonist, Nicolas Cage. 💀and that’s just the casting and directing choice, technicalities aside the whole shooting location doesn’t make sense as the landings of Saipan were for the most part unopposed, with resistance being met inland on fortified ridges and hills or over sprawling farm plains during a nighttime counter offensive by the Japanese. The latter half of the movie(the elimination of the Japanese guns) looks more accurate, even though it resembles the American southwest than a pacific island. The whole movie was pack full of the most mundane war cliches that couldn’t even afford a chuckle for the sake of irony. It’s a sad movie, and here I am rewatching this scene and probably going to rewatch it again in a few months 😂
I’ve never seen this movie but this scene was cool to watch. My grandpa was in the 4th Marines and fought on Saipan and then received a Purple Heart when he was shot on Iwo Jima.
Realism wise, you could feel the intention of making you see that the film isnt trying to glorify the US (this scene at least) but just to show how scary and violent war is.
Yes, this movie is unrealistic. Yes, its not historically accurate. Yes, it can be really ridiculous at times. But dammit, this is still a pretty kick ass John Woo action film. I mean really, what else would expect from the same guy who directed Hardboiled and Face Off
This movie got a lot of bad attention, but I genuinely loved it as a kid, probably still though, because the scale of these scenes are just insane. Of course, there are many flaws, one of them being of course Nick Cage in the movie, and inaccuracies like unlimited ammo (tho he does reload a few times in the movie which I appreciate), but for the rest, the soundtrack, effects and sounds are amazing
Why strap flamethrowers on vulnerable men when you can put them on shells you can lob! Flamethrower shells were totally a thing!... just don't look it up...
I love this movie but I do think they should have taken the realistic approach and done what saipan was actually like. A slow slog to a platue until Sherman armor landed to replace the LAV's with there thin armor and 37mm gun. But ww1 style charges do look cool
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After listening to With The Old Breed, Memoirs of Eugene Sledge, the SGTs Rampage should not be viewed as merely a Hollywood Scene, but a Veteran Marine who is getting "Even" with the Japanese who killed his Marine Brothers. As said by Eugene Sledge himself, " I thought to myself, the more of those Japs I can KILL the BETTER it's gonna be and I Have and Never Will Have Any Compassion for Any of Em ".
Glad that this is a Hollywood battle. Really??? Exposed Japanese positions when the American's have Air Superiority is a joke. I'd a pounded the exposed positions with low level bombers and artillery to minimize Marine casualties. Someone in Hollywood (more dramatic effect) thought it would be neat to do a San Juan Hill type attack (Roosevelt's famous charge in Spanish-American War) over open ground up at hill against machine guns and artillery. The Japanese by that stage of the war were in hardened bunkers and pretty immune from anything but direct hits by shell and bombs. The Marines had to dig them out (literally) with flamethrowers, grenades, and direct artillery fire (and tanks). Even then it was a great loss of life for both sides. Two of my Great Uncles were in several of these battles (Marines) in the Pacific. The only things they ever said was it was bloody and they didn't want to talk about it.
Very good observation about how this attack scene went. Saipan did have some exposed fortified positions, but was the last major battle to truly have them. By the battle of Peleliu, the Japanese started strictly fighting from caves and hidden positions to fight a war of attrition.
I read a book about this battle and learned that so much of this battle was during the rainy season. They fought throughout the mountains and it wasn't much like this. First, everything was soaking wet and deep mud was everywhere. Second, the Japanese were dug in strategically throughout the mountains and the Marines didn't know where they were so Marine casualties were very high. Third, the combat was so intense and the conditions were so bad, many Marines began to lose their minds. Some of those Marine units experienced some of the most psychological break-downs of all Allied units in both theatres of war.
Gotta love how Hawaii is used as a stand-in for so many different locations and countries - Vietnam, Philippines, Isla Sorna (fake island off Costa Rica from Jurassic park) and here as Saipan
@@bclmax I was making an observation, something many ppl make in the comments...If you don't like it, then don't reply...No one cares what you think about my comment......
Hundreds of men killed charging the hills when they just call in the navy and blast the crap out of the Japanese..A bit like the scene from the "Longest Day" where loads of French commandos are killed only for a tank to pop up and destroy the hotel in two shots.
the hundreds of men hold the line so the tank can get close enough to destroy the hotel. Infantry support is important in war, without the infantry we would not be able to push any objective
I mean, we don't see hundreds killed here. Some got killed, some got wounded - probably up to 50 people hit, at least in this particular scene. It feels like a lot, but is actually not a big number comparatively.
Nicolas Cage mowing down the soldiers is supposed to be a serious moment but somehow he makes it hilarious between his screaming and the gun that apparently never needs to be reloaded.
I was taking it very seriously up until that point, then I busted out laughing, the way he walked away in the end was comedy💀
Nicholas Cage ruins movies end of story
He's basically an extra that asked for a line and botched it.
Are you serious? In 3:07 he clearly reloaded his gun!
@@BIGGIN88TWO what? The dude was good in national treasure dude.
Nic Cage turns any movie into a comedy whether it wants it or not. It is his blessing, it is his curse.
Ok
He even turned Dracula into a bloody clown
thought the same thing with Vince Vaughn in Hacksaw Ridge ; comically small helmet - being pulled along on a tarp/blanket ? firing his machine gun
Nic Cage is basically his of own genre at this point
As an actual combat vet, gotta say I wish we had endless rounds in our mags like the movies do.
Being able to go cyclic and never reload
From what war are you vet and salute you
And a barrel made of adamantium
@@stiggy7778 The Emu war
@@sniper9786 sounds fun allot of bird to eat
Look, I really do apprechiate the genuine size of this Battle Scene, the number of extras, the presence of so much genuine WW2-equipment and the seeming emphasis on doing as much as possible in-camera without much CGI...
...but in a post-"Saving Private Ryan"/"The Thin Red Line"-era, this feels weirdly outdated. Less like a genunine WW2-movie and more like an over-the-top John Woo-directed Action Flick that _happens to be set during WW2._
Yeh I agree. Watching this definitely gives me a late 80's / early 90's vibe. I was surprised to look and see that it came out in 2002.
Yeah the whole one man army thing towards the end of the video just doesn't make sense.
The set pieces in the film are really creative. But nobody amongst the Americans seems believable to me lol.
I need more slow motion emotional scene with soldiers shouting the name of their fallen camarades! while shooting.
I mean he did direct it
Well fortified Hill top position. Enemy struggling up the hill. BANZAI CHARGE!
Yep. Hollywood logic right there! ;)
Well I mean sure Hollywood logic but sometimes the Japanese did that. Not on a large scale like that though.
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Sometime, they did, like Tarawa, but not before the end of the campaign, tough.
@@alpharius4434 Right
@@alpharius4434 wasn’t the largest and final banzai charge in the whole war on Saipan though?
Japan was completely outmatched. They had no idea Ghost Rider was leading this attack.
Ba-dum-TSS
...and America had a Hulk!
Love all those gasoline explosions and how planes strafe with their guns not pointed at the ground
YOU LIKE LIBREL MOVIES EH?
@@heyheynowinga9972 what
@@heyheynowinga9972 Who is Librel?
What, you want them to risk accidentally killing extras?
@@chadkingoffuckmountain970 How would that happen? It's not like the planes are firing live rounds
I didn’t know much about the Navajo talkers until this movie. Afterwards, I did some research and it makes for interesting history. Deep respect to the Navajo talkers. They had been treated poorly by the US Government and people in general, yet their contribution is under appreciated. IIRC, the Japanese never learned the Navajo language.
is there anybody who wasn't treated poorly by the US gov?
I knew about them thanks to, not this movie, but the X-Files.
@@baddreams0919 the IRS
@@baddreams0919 Native Americans were treated the worst, near genocide, broken treaties, stolen land. But no one talks reparations for them, even if, it won't happen.
@@baddreams0919 German POWs had it pretty good in American camps.
I was like "wow I don't remember the movie being this good" but then it starts with the slow motion and Cage being Cage lol
the shot at 0:50 really displays the quality of the director, you really never see scenes shot this way. it adds so much immersion and depth to it
Idk i get comic book vibes from that shot.
The cinematography was done by Jeff Kimball who also did the original Top Gun
Really? I think 0:22 - 0:40 shows much greater skill!
Those scene were important to portray that the Japanese set up their main line further back from the landing point and the Americans were funneling through the valley which was under constant Japanese enfilade Artillery fire.
This is directed by John Woo, legendary Hong Kong action film director.
Thats the longest firing 20 round magazine I'v seen on a Thompson.
Yeah Im beginning to think that they forgot to visually add a drum magazine to it, like the one he had at the start of the movie
That's John Woo for you
Nothing is impossible with John Woo
That's a 30-round magazine based on the length.
🕵4:00 he reloads.
0:50 Really have to give props to the stuntman in this shot, he did a backflip into a 10 foot deep pit and went back first onto a solid wooden crate. Looked like he ate the whole thing too
Rip his back
Honestly it’s the most iconic shot in the whole movie. The sound of him hammering the box is physical comedy gold
Fleming Begaye Sr. one of the 400 Navajo code talkers in the Marines, born in Red Valley, in 1921, died in Chinle, Arizona on May 10th, 2019. Now only seven code talkers remain. ~ IMDb
Some remain----but none of the original are alive.
I wonder if the Navajo language will still be used in the next great conflict...
@@ruthlessmofo Nope-----likely nobody will be talking in the next great conflict. And you may want a new tribe anyway----because our enemies would suspect this language?
Just curious but how were they treated after the war? As heroes?
@@dednianterimikate5082 Guessing they went to families that were very happy to see them-----just like always happens to us returning veterans. But I got back to work 2 days after getting out of the service-----and that's pretty much what happens. You return to 'normal' life---no parades like in the Movies.
3:23 when you finally find that one camper in Vanguard
When this movie came out, my grandfather decided he would go and watch it with me in the theaters, or tried to I should say. He was in the 1st Marine Division during the war, and although his unit wasn't on Saipan, he attributed it immediately when this scene started to the carnage and tenacity they had faced on Peleliu and he got up and ran out of the theater with tears in his eyes. I've never felt so much guilt in my life than to have put him through that. He had never told me much about what he had experienced in the Pacific, other than the fact he had been there, but that was proof to me that he had seen the gates of Hell with his own eyes.
No....He went right through those gates and saw what was on the other side I believe.
Respect for your grandfather
I know the feeling, unfortunately. Although I served in Iraq. I could watch war movies with no problem. But any war movies on Iraq, I can’t do it. It takes me back to some dark times. Please tell your Grandfather welcome home and thank him for serving our great nation!
Good on your grandpa for having the courage to watch this movie given his experiences. Hope he wasn’t away in his head too long after.
My grandad made the landing the 4th division and was seriously wounded. He wasn’t alive to see the modern war classics like BoB, Saving Private Ryan, etc. I often wonder what he would think ab them when I am watching them.
I love how all of Nicolas's teammates look at him strangely wondering where so much ammunition keeps coming from.
🤣😂
Unless he had a drum magazine
@@michaelarellano5672 no it was clearly a stick mag
😅😅😅😅😅
And how is he surviving something that usually just gets you killed.
This movie is one we need need to remake. The title is "Windtalkers"; I want to know more about the Windtalkers and less whatever Nicolas Cage is. Redo the movie and start to finish be about them. What it's like to be living on a reservation in the 30's and 40's, the motivation for why they signed up, what happened to them after the war. They deserve a better movie.
Love this movie but you’re right. Actually get some people from the reservations to play the Navajo instead of a Mexican
@@nicholasming5976 Adam Beach is a native Canadian.
No that would just turn into some woke bullshit about how natives are oppressed or something and it would turn into some woke Hollywood bullshit
And instead of the 5 vs 1000 ending fight, they should have stuck with the original history of a surviving a mass banzai charge
People would complain it's too woke
This is so funny. Especially the Nicholas Cage part at the end. It’s impossible to watch it and not bust out laughing 😂😂😂 😂😂😂
I like how no one ever loses a limb here. Even when the artillery round lands right next to them.
Probably a glitch
You’d be atomized if it was at all big? Like nothing would be left?
Why would you want to see that?
They turn off the gore settings
@@angusmcculloch6653 because it just looks goofy otherwise. This whole scene comes off as parody.
Could’ve just sent Nicholas Cage by himself. He would’ve won the battle on his own. Also, his machine gun never runs out of ammo, which is an advantage.
Plus his Thompson never had a stoppage or a jam.
Even my late father, a ww2 usmc combat vet of Okinawa was laughing at the movie
This is a Hollywood movie. What can you expect from a Hollywood movie? Hollywood can do anything impossible to possible. Besides there are many gullibles who wants to believe in invincibility.
Nic Cages facial expressions is what makes this movie funny. Imagine seeing his face in war, it would be a comedy show in the middle of a firefight
@@silentwatcher1455 Isn’t Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers Hollywood? Yet they are good.
@@JohnJohn-pe5kr Saving Private Ryan AND Band of Brothers were both directed by the same man, Steven Spielberg. Spielberg has always put accuracy at the forefront of his World War II collection (BoB, SPR, The Pacific), and he based most of his work off of actual biographies and inputs from real war veterans. Windtalkers was a Hollywood movie, with the directors more concerned about action and sales than realism and a history.
we all believe your newly invented "father veteran" haha
Famed actor Lee Marvin was a GI at the Saipan landing and action. He was known for wryly saying "A Purple Heart [ribbon medal] is actually something you really don't want to get because of how you qualify for it."
Scout Sniper actually and Marine, He starred in dozens of classic movies like The Dirty Dozen with Donald Sutherland and Emperor Of The North, Army GIs and Marines fought side by side on Saipan
Imagine the carnage if he had a 30 cal rather than a Thompson.
He'd take the island by himself.
I like the 1000 round 30 round mags for those Thompson’s. They come in pretty handy for dramatic movie scenes!!
Haha too funny
Wasn't the Thompson mags only 20 rounds?
@@WilliamRPotter
Not in this movie!! They were 1000 at least!! LOL.
My first thought...the never ending magazine
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those gasoline fireball explosions are the most ridiculous thing...
Lmao just look at that nuke grenade at 3:40 lol. It was like John Woo smoke too much weed lol
@@HuyGaming96 That is so damned silly don't they know what a frag grenade is?
@@usul573 plot twisted: John Woo is actually a pyromaniac who love to see people on fire lol
Respect to the soldiers that fought in this gruesome battle.
These are Marines..
I think he meant both sides
@@Dandan-vf9kr they all were soldiers that were ordered to be there. both sides. I'm sure both would rather be someplace else and let the fat lazy leaders battle it out hand to hand so they themselves would be the one's suffering.
@@frickpoo6644 The movie is literally about the Navajo Marines
Respect to any allied nation that fought the Japanese. The British fought the Japanese in the far east Burma, Malaya and took back Singapore and Hong Kong.
0:52....Ouch my aching back!...looks like a stuntman needed help after this one.
Feels like a comedy film even though its based on the real Battles during WW2 The Acting is Just Hilarious. It's suppose to be a Serious Movie.
That battle cry at 2:25 made me chuckle!
@@mashattack551 IKR
I think Cage was doing a stallone shout in Rambo.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. It really does come off as a parody.
It’s an absolutely hilarious movie 😂😂😂
This was seeming to be a very serious and visceral battle scene….right up until 3:18, where Nicholas Cage just couldn’t help himself 😂
Nicolas cage using the Thompson mowing them down with the lords caliber is something else.
Sometimes after I eat a can of beans, I become a windtalker.
Thanks!
I love how his 20-30 round stick mag shoots like a drum mag 😂😂 so outlandish I love the movie but it’s bordering on “true lies” lmao
It's actually a common goof in both movies and video games
One thing most war movies fail at is adding music to the battle scenes instead of increasing the SFX
I'm am an Filipino, born in Saipan I am so so surprised that they have made a movie all about my islands history. And yes we have the closest beaches and it only takes 2 minutes to go at😂❤.
My friend Eugene Iconetti and my Uncle's father were both in the Battle on Saipan
I knew America had some great weapons, but I'm super impressed by the hand grenades that cause gigantic fireballs while also causing slow-motion and dramatic music.
It's impressive but it's 1944 tech. Also the US had a perk called infinite ammo. The Japanese were very jealous. Most of them didn't even have one bullet. All they could do was run screaming towards the US soldiers to get mowed down with no pain.
FUn fact, Japanese soldiers never get wounded. Always killed straight.
Why do they always use V-type engine sounds when portraying radial engined planes? Also, those Hellcats at 1:20 are WAY too low to be dropping their bombs. Dropping your bombs from that low always results in getting blown up yourself.
nothing wrong with bombing that low, but the problem is they're dropping bombs with contact fuses rather than delay.
I agree, hellcats are dive bombers and that means that they need to be dropping bombs at least 1000 meters above grounds, correct me if I'm not wrong though, those hellcats are doing a different attack called glide bombing, however, when doing a glide bombing, the planes should always have their nose slightly upward within 900 meters above ground to avoid getting damaged by shrapnel or avoid getting caught up in the explosion of a 500 pound bomb
@@nighthaste4311 I believe you’re thinking about either the SBD Dauntless or the SB2C Helldiver. The F6F Hellcat is a fighter.
@4donuts yep, did that on War Thunder with contact fused bomb, plane shredded after bomb went off
Movies, that's why
2:25 it is my favorite part of this movie. This is The "Ahhhhhhhh cry of war" ah moment.
Its cool how we actually got to see the M5 in action
I recognized they had Stuart’s as well. Good eye.
Pum
@@michaelmurray11189 yeah and its actually cool, because many stuart were used in pacific rather than europe since the japanese didnt have many anti tank weapons
@@damonhe585 they were also less likely to bog down and were easy to transport to shore with out a built in port
@@ExcavationNation yeah since in many situations the Sherman always get stuck in the mud lol
Never would of expected Mark Ruffalo in a war movie.
This was before he became all woke.
He's in Ride With the Devil also.
Timeline please. I didn't finish the wholet thing
@@immolatorkyxed6670 2:12 pvt pappas
@@bearing_aficionado define woke
I always loved this flick. Packed with action, guns, bang bang boom boom and it`s done.
Nic Cage: "Wait, how many rounds do I fire? What? That's not nearly enough; I have to cycle between fear, joy, anger, and then back to anger-joy...it's gonna take some time.
Scriptwriter: *empties authentic clip into head*
To be honest this kind of looks like a satire. I almost laughed at the end
What could you expect from John Woo. The guy almost single handedly destroyed the Mission Impossible Franchise with his cartoonish take on the series. His career in Hollywood was pretty much over after that "realistic" war drama.
@@RodolfLeclerc but mission impossible 2 wasn't even bad
@@DeosPraetorian I'm a total fan of the Mission Impossible franchise and the number 2 (so appropriately numbered...) was, by far, the worst. Not a disaster but for the MI a total dud.
@@RodolfLeclerc what a lame take John Woo has made some of the most exciting action movies ever made
Say what you want about this movie but it felt epic, in todays world of cgi, this movie feels surprisingly realistic in comparison
That's the most compact 300 round magazine I've ever seen for a tommy 😆
Fun little fact, if you pause at 4:02 and look to the right, you can just see one of the pyrotechnic guys and in the windscreen vision you can see him completely 😂.
I feel like we were spoiled for choice back in the early 2000's for war movies. Windtalkers wasn't considered a good movie in comparison to Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers, but watching this clip it doesn't seem that bad. The battle scenes look good, no CGI, the extras look good, working tanks, artillery pieces, everything seems pretty real. The acting wasn't very good but I can tell they were at least trying to make a real effort for realism.
No CGI? .. lol .. comedic explosions across the screen in the last few seconds of this clip only emphasised the plastic acting of Whatshisface
The planes and navy ships in hte backgorund are cgi
This movie looks like it has equal campiness to Tropic Thunder, but at least Tropic thunder was a parody of sorts.
I lived in Saipan for several years and although not filmed there they at least got the location, angles and even the right mountain profiles in the background.
I agree. Lived in San Roque 93-94 at Camille's right across from Pau Pau and near what
used to be LaFiesta. Miss it to this day.
been to saipan many times, i agree looks pretty good.
He looks crazy. .but deep down that how everyone plays COD
Nicolas Cage fires the first Thompson sub-machine gun with a 1,000 round magazine and wins the Pacific War all on his own coz everyone else is just looking at him and not fighting at all!
Come on man, at least he reloads a couple of times. Not bad for a movie!
@@UppedOne Minus the inaccuracy the Thompson was actually preferred over the M1 Carbine in the Asiatic Pacific theatre, The M1 Carbine fired a pistol caliber round similar to that of the .357 magnum but the .45 ACP can knock down a Japanese soldier in an instant
I don't know how made the music for the movie but deserves a Razzie and the one editing the movie aswell...
James Honorer did the music, the same man who did Titanic and Enemy At The Gates
Me: *dies and calls for a medic*
The medic 20m away: 4:28
2:24 best warcry ever xD
2:15 *Americans advancing with Tanks, MGs and flamethrowers*
The Japanese: "let's do the Banzai charge"
The fact that Nicolas Cage is in this movie is a crime against war.
The mag in the shirt reload at 3:05 was something that I trained in the Army until we finally got dump pouches
Where do I find the extended version of this movie, it has so much extra scenes in it
I love how Enders is using the drum magazine Thompson model without the actual appearance of it.. mad skills right there 😂
Best war-comedy scene ever.
Old Nicki and his 300 round magazine strikes again! In this clip the boy is real god of war😆
I really don't understand the hate of this movie. Like.
It's not the first Hollywood War film to have war inaccuracies like clip size
And it sure as hell not gonna be the last.
Nicolas cage will always be Nicolas Cage but didn't think it was a bad war movie 🤷♂️
It’s not a war movie, it’s an action movie set during a war. John woo’s “unique” directing makes this movie, that was supposed to be a homage to the duties of the Navajo Code Talkers turn into a run-n-gun Nicolas Cage parody. It’s almost laughable were it not for the personal bias I had against it of anticipating a movie that does the heroes of the pacific Justice only to be met with this nearly 2 hour joke. Kudos to Roger Willie being the only actual Navajo whose role was relegated to a side character and the main “Indian” actor was Adam Beach, who was also sidelined for the real protagonist, Nicolas Cage. 💀and that’s just the casting and directing choice, technicalities aside the whole shooting location doesn’t make sense as the landings of Saipan were for the most part unopposed, with resistance being met inland on fortified ridges and hills or over sprawling farm plains during a nighttime counter offensive by the Japanese. The latter half of the movie(the elimination of the Japanese guns) looks more accurate, even though it resembles the American southwest than a pacific island. The whole movie was pack full of the most mundane war cliches that couldn’t even afford a chuckle for the sake of irony. It’s a sad movie, and here I am rewatching this scene and probably going to rewatch it again in a few months 😂
I believe all of the clips used were 8 rounds.
One of the best war movies out there
I’ve never seen this movie but this scene was cool to watch. My grandpa was in the 4th Marines and fought on Saipan and then received a Purple Heart when he was shot on Iwo Jima.
I saw so many Marines with Purple Heart when I was a kid that I used to think they issued them in boot camp!
I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously when Nicholas Cage tries to act in a serious role. 😂
Realism wise, you could feel the intention of making you see that the film isnt trying to glorify the US (this scene at least) but just to show how scary and violent war is.
it's a joke right?
@@hansmohammed5486 your profile picture is cursed
Then why does the American character get infinite ammo?
The kind of movie I enjoy when I was a kid. 💀
You can't convince me this isn't a parody. It's so over the top, it's hilarious.
They turned a great piece of history into a laughingstock of a film.
Never ending Thompson magazine.
Love the Super-tommygun, never runs out!! Where do I get one?
Apparently they didn't even have any cones, footballs or training bibs......oh wait a minute. That was a different Saipan situation 🤣🤣
Respect to camera man he survived thousand of bullet he even record in burning tank
You guys need seriously to make up a new joke ...
Lol, Nick Cage channeling his inner Weird Al by yelling and things exploding from UHF!!
If Andy Kaufman was an action hero.
War is hell.
We glorify it because it helps us cope with it.
Yes, this movie is unrealistic. Yes, its not historically accurate. Yes, it can be really ridiculous at times. But dammit, this is still a pretty kick ass John Woo action film. I mean really, what else would expect from the same guy who directed Hardboiled and Face Off
Exactly A MOVIE
this movie reminds of hacksaw ridge where the battles are so obnoxiously serious that they are comical
Can you imagine the Japanese engineers look of disappointment when none of their troops actually used them.
All that digging and zigzagging trenches at the military creat on the ridge line with perfect fields of fire…banzai!
Funny!
It’s was a good film just really exciting to see it looks like wars been fought.:)👍🏻
This movie got a lot of bad attention, but I genuinely loved it as a kid, probably still though, because the scale of these scenes are just insane. Of course, there are many flaws, one of them being of course Nick Cage in the movie, and inaccuracies like unlimited ammo (tho he does reload a few times in the movie which I appreciate), but for the rest, the soundtrack, effects and sounds are amazing
I loved this as a kid, even now still love this.
@@10rey72 me too! Will always have a special place in my heart :)
Ah the never ending sub machine gun a truly genius invention
最後の日本兵を撃つ前のフラッシュバックいろんな考えがあるだろうね。
「部下を殺した日本兵への憎しみ」
または「部下と同じように苦しみ悲鳴をあげる日本兵を哀れむ気持ち」
この映画はマジでM1バズーカーのシーンを覗けば全部のシーンが神
『柴田はどこ行った？』
日本人エキストラや日本語話せるハワイの人が日本兵の役になってる珍しい作品
なんちゃって日本人の中国人や韓国人が多い映画界の中ではっきり日本語が聞こえてくるのはうれしい。
中尉殿😂
The gun that Hollywood chose to have infinite ammo is the gun that went through ammo the fastest lmao 🤣 good job guys.
😂 looks in the sky screaming while hitting multiple moving targets
love the historically accurate gasoline mortars.....
Why strap flamethrowers on vulnerable men when you can put them on shells you can lob! Flamethrower shells were totally a thing!... just don't look it up...
i think this movie has some of those soldiers are carrying m14s that weren't even invented back them .
Actually their M1 Carbines, The M1 Carbine originally saw action in Europe both some went with the Marines in the Pacific
I love this movie but I do think they should have taken the realistic approach and done what saipan was actually like. A slow slog to a platue until Sherman armor landed to replace the LAV's with there thin armor and 37mm gun. But ww1 style charges do look cool
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日本は第一次世界大戦パリ会議で世界で初めての人類です 人種差別撤廃法案 を提案しアジアを大東亜共栄圏で法の下に貿易を 公平に人種差別のないアジアを志に日本人は、血を流したのです。 朝鮮戦争でも日本人が朝鮮の民の為に5万人も命を落としました あなたは八紘一宇を知っていますか? 世界人類が家族である 日本人は、最後まで弱い民族を見捨てない！ 内モングル・ウイグル・チベット・香港で人種迫害をくりかえす。 愚かな！支那人とは、民度が違います。
Japan is the first human being in the world at the World War I Paris Conference Anti-racism bill Propose Asia under the law in the Greater São Pong area The Japanese bled in Asia, which is not fairly racist。 Even in the Korean War, Japanese people are for Korean people Five Thousands have died Do you know Yag ⁇ Igu? ? World humanity is a family The Japanese do not abandon the weak people until the end! . Kuri racial persecution in Inner Mongle Uygur Tibet Hong Kong。 Stupid! People have different degrees of folklore。
Nicolas Cage just represented every Call Of Duty player that enjoy the game too much
After listening to With The Old Breed, Memoirs of Eugene Sledge, the SGTs Rampage should not be viewed as merely a Hollywood Scene, but a Veteran Marine who is getting "Even" with the Japanese who killed his Marine Brothers. As said by Eugene Sledge himself, " I thought to myself, the more of those Japs I can KILL the BETTER it's gonna be and I Have and Never Will Have Any Compassion for Any of Em ".
0:59 to 1:00 the 105mm Type 92 gun cannon? One of the best guns in the Japanese arsenal ...
Glad that this is a Hollywood battle. Really??? Exposed Japanese positions when the American's have Air Superiority is a joke. I'd a pounded the exposed positions with low level bombers and artillery to minimize Marine casualties. Someone in Hollywood (more dramatic effect) thought it would be neat to do a San Juan Hill type attack (Roosevelt's famous charge in Spanish-American War) over open ground up at hill against machine guns and artillery. The Japanese by that stage of the war were in hardened bunkers and pretty immune from anything but direct hits by shell and bombs. The Marines had to dig them out (literally) with flamethrowers, grenades, and direct artillery fire (and tanks). Even then it was a great loss of life for both sides. Two of my Great Uncles were in several of these battles (Marines) in the Pacific. The only things they ever said was it was bloody and they didn't want to talk about it.
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Very good observation about how this attack scene went. Saipan did have some exposed fortified positions, but was the last major battle to truly have them. By the battle of Peleliu, the Japanese started strictly fighting from caves and hidden positions to fight a war of attrition.
wow that tommy with box magazine pouring out lead like a circular drum. 🤣
I read a book about this battle and learned that so much of this battle was during the rainy season. They fought throughout the mountains and it wasn't much like this. First, everything was soaking wet and deep mud was everywhere. Second, the Japanese were dug in strategically throughout the mountains and the Marines didn't know where they were so Marine casualties were very high. Third, the combat was so intense and the conditions were so bad, many Marines began to lose their minds. Some of those Marine units experienced some of the most psychological break-downs of all Allied units in both theatres of war.
ive been to saipan many times and this looks pretty good. yes there are "mountains" down the middle of the island but this passes in the farming areas
Super realistic him standing up screaming and spraying.
This is a very well shot scene and some great cinematography.
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@@Mike9201984 why not? The aerial shots were stunning and just adictive
30 round Thompsons certainly last for ever in movies 😂😂
They could at least given him his drum mags back for that scene..
Gotta love how Hawaii is used as a stand-in for so many different locations and countries - Vietnam, Philippines, Isla Sorna (fake island off Costa Rica from Jurassic park) and here as Saipan
so?
@@bclmax What? Did I offend you princess?
@@killbot86 no, your comment is lame...movies cost money to make, sometimes you have to make due with what u have.
@@bclmax I was making an observation, something many ppl make in the comments...If you don't like it, then don't reply...No one cares what you think about my comment......
@@killbot86 some people need more info, like you
This is quite silly, a standard Thompson magazine had 20 bullets. Cage fired off about 100 rounds with no reload lol.
Hundreds of men killed charging the hills when they just call in the navy and blast the crap out of the Japanese..A bit like the scene from the "Longest Day" where loads of French commandos are killed only for a tank to pop up and destroy the hotel in two shots.
the hundreds of men hold the line so the tank can get close enough to destroy the hotel. Infantry support is important in war, without the infantry we would not be able to push any objective
The Navy can't spot an entrenched enemy nest because they're cleverly concealed with vegetation and surroundings.
I mean, we don't see hundreds killed here. Some got killed, some got wounded - probably up to 50 people hit, at least in this particular scene. It feels like a lot, but is actually not a big number comparatively.