Agree, sort of. I think a slightly larger scale would have been incredible (15-20mm). I have some minis in that scale range, and it's just big enough for amazing detail, but small enough for massive armies.@@henryrodriguez6260
LIttle tiny space trucks and truck trucks. I'm hyped to see this in the future. Legions Imperialis is probably one of those games I'm going to enjoy vicariously.
Thanks for this video! I am stoked for these...! After watching your series of videos on this game, and seeing these models, I am hooked and can see myself spending years happily building and painting these little gems! I have always been more of a modeller than a gamer anyway. As for the multitude of tiny parts, they look much less involved than 1/700 scale ship models or 1/72 or 1/76 scale armour! Keep up the great work!
I enjoy the assembly process and removing all the flash and mold lines. That being said, if I ever get into this game, I'd be the one just deploying aircraft to include making bombing runs that I can't do in 40k. I'll be the reason why players start taking Hydras and other anti-air units.
Love the bit about smoke stacks. I feel your pain after sticking 32 of them onto 8 kratoses (kratae?) So happy that the landraiders have a single engine block. I feel the video is missing a little mag action. All my sponsons are magnetized with 2mm magnets... that puts smokestacks into perspective
I actually love building these small scale models. Other people look at it and often say it sounds "painful / harder", but that's not the case with plastic models. It's like any other GW plastic kit in the end, just smaller (it also means it takes a lot less room on your building table than the 32mm equivalent). Resin models at this scale, I find it much more bothersome (mostly because I keep glueing my fingers with superglue).
Shout out to Tamiya Cement. After having multiple tubes of plastic glue dry out on me before I even got half-way through them it is the only way to go!
You have to remember some people enjoy the build stage more than others. Personally its my favourite part of the hobby, im actually finding these little tanks really fun to put together
Space Hulk & Space Marine Epic Got me Into 40K, 32mm is only Viable for Skirmish IMHO Any Serious Battles need EPIC Scale, I plan to Print Proxey Tyrannids Orks and More and Create Appropriate Army lists, If No Official ones arrive, I'm also Printing My Tanks Marines and Napoleonic French Style Guard from the Wargames Atlantic Grognards Range :)
Need a pair of the Godhand Clippers, the last set of Clippers you’ll need to buy as long as you take care of them. Massive difference in how well they work and feel, and built to last compared to cheaper clippers.
Said same thing with some star wars legion models, im convinved the guy cutting the model for the mold was getting divorced and wanted people to suffer
Lovely video! It looks like youve glued the infantry to the bases or is it just temporary? I was thinking for painting, isnt it difficult to reach everywhere if they are on base already?
I'm getting confused by the word detachment. Does it refer to: a) the big outline box that we see in the rulebook, that groups a number of smaller boxes together b) the smaller boxes that represent a subset of that force but could end up being a number of models or bases on the table. Could someone help me out with the hierarchy please?
Yeah it’s a bit confusing. A miniature is a little plastic dude or tank etc. A model or base is one plastic base or equivalent (so five little dude miniatures standing on a piece of plastic is one model/base). A detachment is like a unit in 40k, one or more bases that group up together. A formation is a group of detachments, akin to old 40k detachments.
Back at launch you said in one of your videos that you would show how you spiced up your Imperialis tokens. Did you drop that in a video and I missed it, or is that still coming?
awesome to see you put these together...I have a question regarding the astartes sprue's...there are images of poor and mold slips where there is significant errors on the marines...have you noticed any issues with the infantry models?
They aren’t errors, they’re casting requirements so these minuscule models aren’t ripped to pieces when the molds open and close. Those slopes on the back half prevent undercuts that would make the models impossible to cast in plastic. The process for putting them in is automated these days and they’re probably as minimal as mathematically possible to be honest.
Wouldn't this be the best time to paint the infantry on the sprue as they are only attached by a single point that can be easily tidied up after you are ready to base? It seems like it would be hard to paint the infantry after it is based. I remember basing my marines before painting in an earlier space marines box set. I still have nightmares from that.
Ok I'm mad at the government for lots of things. But the role they've played in how long it's been since I've seen gmg play 5 leagues from home or 5 parsecs set me over the edge a little bit haha
Assembly is the worst part, I am dreading doing this bit for my LI stuff. Makes me think I might pick up some of the Vanguard Minis stuff as it's a single casting+turret...
@@sentaijustice9207 Yes I did, had only minor mould lines on mine. Have an entire White Scars army from their stuff. Apart from some spurs on the bottom of their bases from the metal gates they were very clean.
So I watched your videos after reading the rules on warhammer community a few months ago (which left me with a bad impression). After watching your videos, my opinion has changed. It's actually a lot simpler than I gave it credit for, as I originally ruled it out due to some of the ruling text, which was just awful to read. Too late to the party, though - can't get it anywhere.
I'mma stick to 32mm. The way GW is handling the newer 'Epic' just 'too much' in all aspects. Too much money for the tiny things that only a niche market(x5) will even play. That build is a nightmare - you hit the nail on the head with "I remember when these were all one-piece models". And ofc, price.
Enjoy what you like. Different scales aren't meant for everyone, it's always a matter of personnal view and how you enjoy it. It has nothing to do with price if you already stick to 32mm, whose are often higher. You just think you get more material for the money you put into it, that's all.
This scale rules. Honestly fits the Heresy better than 32mm.
This scale is the proper scale to accomplish what Horus Heresy and 40K are trying to capture.
32mm is a great scale for skirmish games (
@@henryrodriguez6260 especially zm
I disagree, 32mm LI would be the best….
@@col.hertford9855 It already exists, and is called Warhammer : Horus Heresy ^^
Agree, sort of. I think a slightly larger scale would have been incredible (15-20mm). I have some minis in that scale range, and it's just big enough for amazing detail, but small enough for massive armies.@@henryrodriguez6260
LIttle tiny space trucks and truck trucks. I'm hyped to see this in the future. Legions Imperialis is probably one of those games I'm going to enjoy vicariously.
Thanks for this video! I am stoked for these...! After watching your series of videos on this game, and seeing these models, I am hooked and can see myself spending years happily building and painting these little gems! I have always been more of a modeller than a gamer anyway.
As for the multitude of tiny parts, they look much less involved than 1/700 scale ship models or 1/72 or 1/76 scale armour!
Keep up the great work!
I enjoy the assembly process and removing all the flash and mold lines. That being said, if I ever get into this game, I'd be the one just deploying aircraft to include making bombing runs that I can't do in 40k. I'll be the reason why players start taking Hydras and other anti-air units.
Nice to see some of the hobby content come back - I have missed on the paint table
Love the bit about smoke stacks. I feel your pain after sticking 32 of them onto 8 kratoses (kratae?) So happy that the landraiders have a single engine block.
I feel the video is missing a little mag action. All my sponsons are magnetized with 2mm magnets... that puts smokestacks into perspective
I actually love building these small scale models. Other people look at it and often say it sounds "painful / harder", but that's not the case with plastic models. It's like any other GW plastic kit in the end, just smaller (it also means it takes a lot less room on your building table than the 32mm equivalent). Resin models at this scale, I find it much more bothersome (mostly because I keep glueing my fingers with superglue).
Shout out to Tamiya Cement. After having multiple tubes of plastic glue dry out on me before I even got half-way through them it is the only way to go!
they don't seem that bad! I still have flashbacks to the Robotech rpg tactics models! those were a nightmare to put together!!
"My big stupid hands!" Lol.
Its numbered and its correct!!! Thats the most suprising
You have to remember some people enjoy the build stage more than others.
Personally its my favourite part of the hobby, im actually finding these little tanks really fun to put together
Space Hulk & Space Marine Epic Got me Into 40K, 32mm is only Viable for Skirmish IMHO Any Serious Battles need EPIC Scale, I plan to Print Proxey Tyrannids Orks and More and Create Appropriate Army lists, If No Official ones arrive, I'm also Printing My Tanks Marines and Napoleonic French Style Guard from the Wargames Atlantic Grognards Range :)
So no fair you get the stuff first lol. Also the Sons of Horus are dogs and need to be put down! Challenge issued!
Glad the old school intro music is back
Have you played Dropzone commander? Would be interesting to see a comparison :)
Smoke stacks look to be a easy to put on as the Areonautica missiles and bombs LOL
Those flyers look sick!
Looking good,can't wait for death guard I think
Need a pair of the Godhand Clippers, the last set of Clippers you’ll need to buy as long as you take care of them. Massive difference in how well they work and feel, and built to last compared to cheaper clippers.
Said same thing with some star wars legion models, im convinved the guy cutting the model for the mold was getting divorced and wanted people to suffer
I feel ya on the big hands vs. small pieces struggle.
Good for chopping wood, not installing tiny exhausts.
Is there a lot of gap filling/line scraping or other cleanup required?
Tweezers might be a good idea for some of those smaller parts!
Lovely video!
It looks like youve glued the infantry to the bases or is it just temporary? I was thinking for painting, isnt it difficult to reach everywhere if they are on base already?
I just glue them down. I don’t have the patience for sub assemblies anymore
I'm getting confused by the word detachment.
Does it refer to:
a) the big outline box that we see in the rulebook, that groups a number of smaller boxes together
b) the smaller boxes that represent a subset of that force but could end up being a number of models or bases on the table.
Could someone help me out with the hierarchy please?
A Formation is a group of Detachments. Each Formation has compulsory Detachments within it.
Yeah it’s a bit confusing. A miniature is a little plastic dude or tank etc. A model or base is one plastic base or equivalent (so five little dude miniatures standing on a piece of plastic is one model/base). A detachment is like a unit in 40k, one or more bases that group up together. A formation is a group of detachments, akin to old 40k detachments.
Back at launch you said in one of your videos that you would show how you spiced up your Imperialis tokens.
Did you drop that in a video and I missed it, or is that still coming?
awesome to see you put these together...I have a question regarding the astartes sprue's...there are images of poor and mold slips where there is significant errors on the marines...have you noticed any issues with the infantry models?
They aren’t errors, they’re casting requirements so these minuscule models aren’t ripped to pieces when the molds open and close. Those slopes on the back half prevent undercuts that would make the models impossible to cast in plastic. The process for putting them in is automated these days and they’re probably as minimal as mathematically possible to be honest.
The rhinos are so cute
Wouldn't this be the best time to paint the infantry on the sprue as they are only attached by a single point that can be easily tidied up after you are ready to base? It seems like it would be hard to paint the infantry after it is based. I remember basing my marines before painting in an earlier space marines box set. I still have nightmares from that.
Sorry where can i find the painting of the sons of horus?
What size are the rhinos? Would be great to know if I need to replace all my 3d printed ones or if they’ll blend seamlessly with the GW ones.
We live in a timeline where Epic scale tanks have the bottoms filled and 40k scale tanks don't
So awesome 👌
Ash, when do you think BFG in some form will return?
Would it be possible/practical to play normal 40k rules at this scale?
The first one, yes. The second one… maybe?
Ok I'm mad at the government for lots of things. But the role they've played in how long it's been since I've seen gmg play 5 leagues from home or 5 parsecs set me over the edge a little bit haha
Assembly is the worst part, I am dreading doing this bit for my LI stuff.
Makes me think I might pick up some of the Vanguard Minis stuff as it's a single casting+turret...
You never cleaned Vanguard models, didn't you. Metal mold lines are the worst to remove, especially when you have to do it on 100+ infantry models.
@@sentaijustice9207 Yes I did, had only minor mould lines on mine. Have an entire White Scars army from their stuff. Apart from some spurs on the bottom of their bases from the metal gates they were very clean.
So I watched your videos after reading the rules on warhammer community a few months ago (which left me with a bad impression). After watching your videos, my opinion has changed. It's actually a lot simpler than I gave it credit for, as I originally ruled it out due to some of the ruling text, which was just awful to read.
Too late to the party, though - can't get it anywhere.
Don't worry it'll be restocked I'm sure they have plans for future kits!
Yea... I'll just print this stuff in one piece, I can't handle more Golitah cigar bits.
Micro machines 40k
I am not looking forward to assembly, not at all. But I am dying to play, I have missed Epic.
Jeez that looks painful
Putting those tanks together looks painful.
I'mma stick to 32mm. The way GW is handling the newer 'Epic' just 'too much' in all aspects. Too much money for the tiny things that only a niche market(x5) will even play. That build is a nightmare - you hit the nail on the head with "I remember when these were all one-piece models". And ofc, price.
Enjoy what you like. Different scales aren't meant for everyone, it's always a matter of personnal view and how you enjoy it. It has nothing to do with price if you already stick to 32mm, whose are often higher. You just think you get more material for the money you put into it, that's all.
I'm still sour they changed the scale and all my old epic stuff is unusable...
The assembly alone made me not purchase this game. I wanted to until I remembered titanicus than I said uhhhh no thanks