If you want a reliable cvt, buy a toyota, as a toyota mechanic we got cvt cars coming into the shop with nearly half a million kilometers on the original transmission. I dont know how they do it, but they seem to be the only manufacturer who actually produces proper cvts. Also almost all their hybrids use cvt.
@@vics5623 well the Rav4 hybrid models use a cvt, and they push up to 220hp and weigh about 1700kg or 3747lb and they dont seem to have any issues either. We’ve had 0 transmission related issues with the hybrid ravs so far, so toyota is doing a good job at making solid cvts even for heavier and more powerful vehicles. But since i work at a toyota dealer the vehicles that come here are well and regularly maintained. So i cannot say for sure how reliable they are when they aren’t well maintained. But the only real maintenance that is done on these transmissions are transmission fluid changes. Besides the rav 4 i dont really know of any cvt toyota that does have common transmission issues, and cvt complaints are quite rare in general. In fact we have more complaints about the manual or normal automatic transmission than we do for cvts.
@@vics5623Subaru optimized their CVT transmission for performance - WRX has 270hp and 400NM torque with CVT. And cars like Lexus and Acura perform really well with CVT. To be honest, most CVT 'unpleasantness' is down to the lack of engine power.
There's two different types of CVT, belt/chain driven(belt is usually for mopeds, lawnmowers and such), chain for your typical CVT, and then there's the eCVT. it uses one or more electric motors to change the output speed via a sun gear transmission. this allows the engine to spin almost freely completely disconnected from the drivetrain, and when that electric motor spins up, it then puts load on the engine, and how much load goes onto the engine determines the output power. eCVTs are way more reliable, as there's no belt, chain or loss from the pullys. I'd say they have a higher load rating than traditional CVTs, but they are still light duty transmissions, and can only output the power rating of the electric motor/s itself.
Toyota Hybrids are not conventional CVTs, they use duel motors and the engine to create a continuously variable transmission. Very reliable. CVT type transmissions can also hold the engine at peak power output, no other transmission can do that.
Agreed. I’m running my second Toyota hybrid. It’s more refined than the previous one overall. They actually use the term ‘eCVT’ in most of the documentation about it for the mechanical side - but the electric side of the hybrid is king, when it comes to brisk starts from rest. Zero risk of stalling etc. All traction motors have the property of being able to turn out maximum torque at zero speed, which results in the simplest mechanical transmission both on the road and on the railway. You’re right about them using constant engine speed when required, but a lot of that is to optimise the thermal efficiency, along with no idling at low speed.
3 things Mick doesn't understand about automatic cars: 1. Not all auto cars have a manual mode 2. Not all manual modes are the same; many will shift up and most will shift down (including kick-down) 3. Creeping on a torque converter is totally fine.
@@Omarock The dealer should know; it's normally not in the marketing materials, though sometimes it's mentioned in the owner's manual. Test drive is probably the easiest way to tell (and to tell about a few more things too).
I think his target audience is British people who like driving and not Americans, or British people who only see their car as a tool. I'm not making any presumptions about yourself 😉 I can confirm that the manual mode on mothers lowly aygo is pretty obedient as confirmed by myself when I've tested it, and by her when she's attempted to use it then given up because she always found appropriate gear for desired speed and style of progression to be somewhat confusing. You have to allow it to be obedient though, so manual means manual, until it HAS to intervene such as to avoid a stall. At the other extreme it will just sit at the rev limiter. I'd be interested to see a video with a proper crappy old school auto on a simple cheap when new car. A lot of small new cars could be considered slightly premium these days, Micks Clio included 👍
I've always driven manuals. I recently bought a '22 Supra, which is auto because the manuals are so hard to come by. *ZERO* regrets. Autos have come so far these last few decades. I could never shift as quickly as this auto, plus now I have a free hand instead of always needing one available for shifting.
Hands down the best explained video on automatics. I am still unsure and need to do a few more test drives to confirm whether I want to make the switch, but this video has come closer to convincing me. I think the fundamental issue is the lack of that third pedal. I really enjoy the connection you have to the car, and whilst dual clutch is a happy medium, it still cannot rival that visceral feeling you get from a manual transmission. Great vid as always Mick!
I can't see what benefit you would get from an automatic transmission. Maybe you would find one that seems fun on a test drive, but the novelty will wear off within a week and you will wish you had a manual transmission again.
Thanks dude! They honestly are great! I will say - my next car I'm going back to manual. I don't commute anymore and I'm looking for that extra 5% engagement
Honestly, I have both. To help you with your decision think about it like this: How is your daily commute to work? Do you creep allot in standing traffic? Do you want to be engaged with the driving or just not care about it? If you are stuck allot in traffic (city driving) I recommend going automatic as it is more relaxing. But if you want to be more engaged with your car all the time, stick with the manual. Sure you can go manual on a automatic, but I never find myself doing that unless I actively search for a nice B road.
To be honest a lot of 'manual' modes across different cars are frustrating to say the least. perhaps on more performance oriented car they allow more control, but in other cars they can intervene more than they should for a 'manual mode' resulting in a frustrating experience. fantastic video, great tips and alot of care out into it
@@Scotty-vs4lf why in the name of anything involving forwards motion would you choose to hamper an Impreza with hairdryer gearing? I realise I'm sounding old because I'm thinking of the fast stuff and not the modern day badge.
@@davidmoore4615 wdym hairdryer gearing? its obviously a slow car but on backroads manual mode is infinitely better. better throttle response and its easier to stay near the limit when its the right time and place
Torque converter: The medium between propeller and impeller is oil. How is it supposed to wear when creeping. In drive, it is engaged all the time. That is actually the main advantage of a torque converter, especially when maneuvring a trailer. The oil might get hot, and you shouldn't let it creep for hours of course, but in dense traffic, i don't see an issue tbh.
Why there is a blurry box? 🙄 BTW thank you, for explaining the basics. Even though I have my drivers licence for more than 20years, I learned something new! You got a sub, looking forward new videos😊
I had an RS Megane 225. Manual. It made me feel like I was a racing driver. Then I got a Mini Cooper S with a basic auto box. Made me realize I could accelerate faster without having to change the gears myself. One less pedal to worry about. Never bothered with the "manual" mode. Made me feel like I was playing a computer game. Driving a Nissan Juke auto at the moment (don't ask), and that has a sports mode and a manual mode. It's not fun at all. Good video, mate.
I've been driving since 1966 and I now have my second automatic. The first - 30 years ago was a Borg Warner 3 Speed box, which I had for only 18 months. One year ago, I bought a car with an eight-speed auto torque converter box and I just love the effortless driving experience. I've tried manual mode but even after a total of 56 years of manual boxes,with the flappy paddle changing, I just can't get my timing right and if I'm in manual mode and pull away from lights, I sometimes forget and when the engine's at 6,000rpm I suddenly remember to change up! And the box will still change down if it thinks I'm going too slow for a gear! I think I'd better watch Mick's video on driving in manual mode.
I really enjoy the videos on this channel, yes I’m from America, and they get better and better. It’s helping chill my crazy NYC driving (even though every time I drive normal, that’s when I encounter the dumb stuff other drivers do), but really becoming one with the car is so exhilarating! Keep up the good work! Also, you now sound more like Judge Rinder and I like that show, so yeah that’s kinda cool.
So, I have a 20 year old Audi A3 with manual transmission and over 300000 km on the clock. The clutch is still the first one. Now I'm looking for a BMW 128ti, which unfortunately is only available with automatic transmission. That sucks! But I have to replace my car because of various defects (turbo, power steering). So if I want a 128ti, I have to go for an automatic. But this video disappoints me as far as automatics go. The way I see it, an automatic offers me no advantages whatsoever. If I want to have fun, I have to switch to manual mode. If I want to have a long life, I have to be careful. If I want to save fuel, I have to ... What I'm trying to say is: I hate the automotive industry for doing away with the manual transmission.
I fully intend for my next car to be manual as I have an automatic already. That being said, it was one of the best decisions I made to have myself experience an autobox, as I never would have fallen in love with "the drive" otherwise, and I would have been yet another idiot trying to clout chase with constant grinding and power figures. I also have learned a lot of nuances, especially left foot braking. Thanks for fighting against the manual only dogma, I think that both are worth understanding!
My dad has a 2006 2.0 TDI pump injection Seat Altea with a 6-speed DSG: with due maintenance and some precautions, it is still one of the most enjoyable and reliable double clutch transmissions ever made: gentle and smooth in D and raging in S (or manual). Unfortunately, I cannot drive a Euro 4 diesel here where I live because of emissions restrictions, but I miss that car...
How to have fun in an automatic car: Step 1: Put it in manual mode 💀 Ok, but for real in my budget I don't really have a choice because older cheaper cars come with torque converter (usually 4 speed) gearboxes which make already slow ~150hp engines feel even more sluggish and are less fuel efficient. Manual is the better option here if I want to have some fun. Maybe my budget will allow for fun automatic car someday.
Try a late 90s 1.3i automatic hyundai accent with something like 70hp. Yep, that's what I was blessed with before parents caved in and helped me get my own car. I think it was actually 3 gears + overdrive it was so ancient underneath. I would joke to my mates that O/D off was sport mode 😂😂 luckily for my social dignity none of them were into cars. This was a long time ago - I've not long turned 40 so 😂
Some nuance: Torque converters, the mechanical components, DO NOT wear. Torque converters cause the automatic transmission fluid to heat up rapidly when they create large amounts of torque multiplication and slippage (and those things are related but not the same), and ATF breaks down at temperatures above 110 degrees C. Worn out, dirty, burnt fluid is bad for an automatic transmission, but the mechanical components of the torque converter could not be less affected by this slippage. The torque converter clutch on the other hand - the component responsible for locking the torque converter and reducing slip - absolutely can and does wear out. They usually wear out when worn, dirty, burnt ATF goes through the system and reduces line pressure on the TCC, causing it to slip more than "desired". Perversely, some auto manufacturers engineered their torque converters to feature clutches which are designed to slip. These designs are horrific for longevity, especially if the ATF is ever allowed to get hot. In general, torque converter clutches only slip when more power is sent through them than they were designed to handle, as in when the engine is tuned to make more than factory power and torque.
The advice to use manual mode to prevent unwanted downshifting made me chuckle a little. My 25 year old land barge with a 3 speed does not give me that option! Anyways, great video!
2:21 Toyota's e-CVT is darn good. No torque converter. No belt. A planetary gearset driven by 2 electric motors and the engine. They're practically indestructible and they do exactly what you want when you want.
In fact, a DCT gearbox si identical to a manual gearbox. The clutch is the fragile part. The torque converter automatic gearbox and CVT's are trully automatic
Thanks so much! I really enjoy your videos ever since I stumbled across them on the net. I think you are so much better so many others, even professional driving instructors, in the way that rather than teach how to pull the wheel this or press pedal that way you are giving a holistic view on what it takes to be a safe and efficient driver.
I have a problem with my left foot so after 25 years all manual motoring I’ve had to go auto. The family wagon is a lumbering beast with a big engine and while I agree totally with your manual mode there is also a certain enjoyment to using fine throttle control when in D to ensure the car is in and stays in the gear you want. Great way of having a fun drive with the kids in the car. But manual mode when I’m on my own and want to enjoy the drive. Speaking of which, the ZF8 you mention is in my BMW and if they told me it was a dual clutch, I might believe them compared to the torque converter in my 15 year old Audi!
I understand the benefits of fuel economy on the highway but some gearboxes really under-rev the engine and this is bad for two reasons: when you want to accelerate, if you press slowly on the pedal it will lug the engine a bit until it decides to shift down and for turbocharged engines, the turbo isn't spinning as much as it should, or at all. If you select the gears manually or stay in sports mode it's fine but on eco or even normal I find myself manually overriding the transmission before accelerating just to avoid these issues. I have a Aisin EAT-8 torque converter, the behavior is different for different models.
The trick I used when I drove Automatic 520d was to give a quick blip of throttle to force the gearbox to downshift. Once the downshift happens, I can proceed to puch down throttle as required.
I actually do shift to 5th at around 40 mph a lot. But only when I don't need to accelerate further and when I'm not going up a hill. I also do this to keep my momentum at a slight descent without needing to press the gas pedal.
Good watching after I test drove a Fiat 500X yesterday. I normally drive a 110BHP EV so thought it wouldn't be too different but all the little technology and feeling the gear shifts is a lot of get acquainted with. I pout the 500X in manual mode and felt like it was in its best use case
I drove manuals exclusively for 30 years and now I drive an auto. There's some really decent automatic transmissions out there now and traffic is worse than it's ever been. These days I'm happy to trade some fun for a lot of convenience but it depends on the vehicle and how good the auto transmission is.
Fantastic and sound advice given on this video. The little details are correct and without doubt in my opinion would make these gearboxes last a long time. This will be the future of all cars, however the general public wont learn the finer techniques. I enjoy my automatics and agree that they are better than manual which are not bomb proof either due to dual mass flywheels. Certain drivers will always be rough and plenty will have feel and apply technique. As an oldie even I am learning!!
The automatic goes up the gears when it senses a lack of engine load. That's why it was going up when you were holding a constant speed round a corner, which you found annoying because it wasn't ready to pounce out of the corner. As for 6th at 40, depends on the car. I had a 6 speed cooper S that was already at 1600 rpm, which was plenty for rolling down a level road at 40. That thing did fine in 6th even uphill at 30. A 2 liter diesel Vauxhall Insignia gives you about 1000 rpm, and whilst I haven't driven one, that can't be far above idle, so the car might just about roll until you come to a slight incline where it will probably vibrate when you press the accelerator.
the new hybrid rav 4 has a CVT. It's nothing special but as the revs stay consistent the rumble sounds surprisingly good sometimes when you're just teasing the throttle a little in sport mode. Would still prefer a normal auto tho :D
Can you make a video next on how to keep a centered lane. Despite driving for 5 years now, I end up leaning more on the left side of the lane, or hug the line I’m making turns on. Whenever I turn on my lane assist to center myself, it feels like ima crash onto someone 😅
12:24 one of the reasons why manuals are more reliable, because you can do what you described without slipping the clutch (or touching the accelerator) and still have superior control in stop and go traffic. You can let the car creep forward in 1st or 2nd gear completely off the clutch, but you have to be careful with the accelerator on 1st gear (sudden lift off is brutal).
thanks I have the clio with EDC and will deffinitely STOP creeping in traffic without gass pedal... I did 25k kilometers so hopefully its not runied yet!
you gotta dance with the manual, feels more rewarding. Theres much more to learn and some people want that. For me its not about going as fast as i can but about having more fun.
Awesome video Mick, very useful. What about put neutral on a stop (eg while standing on a red traffic light)? Is it a good thing or it wears out the clutch?
Creeping up a hill too slow in 2nd will do no damage to the torque converter. You would, however, be lugging the engine and potentially stalling if the car doesn't intervene. Excess friction and heat are what kill torque converters, or in other words, high RPMs for extended durations or changing from extremes of speed very often (eg, ragging it from every set of lights).
Perfect timing for a video, I'm thinking of a BMW F31 Touring 330d (2012-2016ish) and they all have the ZF box. Always been put off, but most research says they are solid. Let's see.... Subbed!
If you consider topic to talk about. Please tell us if your drivers as community have some kind of code, like extention to rules, or even amendments maybe. Or common habbits which suppliment official rules. For example our drivers, let's assume it is left sided system, when approaching T- intersection with main road to make left turn, should signal left, but they are signaling right to notify drivers on main road they are going to join main flow. Also, would be interesting to know about gestures and light signals as communications between drivers. For example, do you make two short far flashes to warn other drivers about police in the bush?
this is 100% true in the case of the WRX, though it is worth knowing you NEED to change your fluid every 30k or so miles. In the U.S. they are billed as lifetime fluid which is of course BS.
@@MidnightGreen4649 remember 1 thing, all difficult condition may be proper maintained in case of wrx, rs etc, if you use it in corner edge conditions, it's best practice.
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I quite often change gears when exiting a roundabout, but I will usually accelerate in 4th, and then skip 5th unless I'm going to be cruising there. But sure, hands down it's never going to be as efficient as an auto 😁
I understand that you shouldn't stop and go in 2nd. but what if you're at a complete stop at a red light, resting in second, then accelerate off to third when green. it shouldn't be slipping given i'm still the entire time i'm in second. is that correct?
I guess this is super dependent whether or not you have a new or an old automatic transmission. my car doesn't have a manual mode, and waits 2 seconds before up shifting. I can still choose what gear to downshift and use, but I have a PRND2L stick with an Overdrive button, so it's not the same.
Incredible video I love the simplicity of your explanations. I do just have one question about the economy of autos, I thought that keeping my car in too high a gear was bad for the economy? I live in a very hilly area so when I am on a uphill and in too high of a gear I find myself having to use a lot more of the throttle and I thought there has to be a point where the engine is exerting more energy than necessary, so gearing down and driving with the rpm higher to maintain speed was the best thing to do?
Hi Mick, i have owned 5 New Subaru WRX since 2005. my first 2 were manual, my last 2 were CVT, i have recently purchased a new 2023 WRX Sport it has the new Subaru SPT auto, it is just brilliant to drive smooth and rapid responce when required. Please do test drive the new WRX SPT (cvt) BTW i do like the Renault Megan RS i have owned 2 new Renault, and 5 new Peugeot cars. 👍 Au.
15:10 the reason I dont hold 6th at 40 isn't because it feels unnatural, it's because I'd need to manually change down if I wanted more power from the engine - the lack of kick-down makes the car feel unresponsive when holding such a high gear
Most CVT 'unpleasantness' is down to the lack of engine power. Any automatic transmission will struggle in a city car with horsepower less than 80. Torque converter will perform similarly poor, and there's basically no DCT offering. A car with 150hp or more (something like 1.8L NA or 1.5L turbo engine) drives decently good with CVT.
You should really research the fourth type of automatic transmissions, Toyota / Lexus so-called eCVTs, which are not like your other CVTs, but essentially a totally different type of transmission. I think 'planetary gearset' or epicyclic gear train is a more proper name for them.
most automatics use planetary gears. If I'm not mistaken, the Toyota Corolla has a CVT with a traditional first gear to help with acceleration from a stop.
Great video! quick question, i have DSG Polo and i've had multiple issues (not all about wear and tear) the last couple of years with the gearbox. I live on a small but steep hill and the first thing my car has to do each morning is creep down the road. If i accelerate i find that the car picks up too much speed, so naturally (i drove manual for years), i'll let it creep and it does something like a hill decent controlled speed of around 15-20 Km/hour. Can i approach this differently? Thank you!
My issue with autos is that I absolutely hate the fact that I cannot skip gears. Let’s say I’m in 7th gear, but I decide I want to do a hard pull for which I need 4th. In a proper manual, I can just go down to whatever gear I want immediately, but in an auto I need to switch sequentially. This feels absolutely horrible.
The auto dsg box on an audi rs3 allows you to go down several gears at once. If you hold the left pedal for a second or two, it automatically goes down 2 or even 3 gears to give you the best rpms for acceleration immediatly. Idk about other cars but there must be more cars that can do that.
theres also single clutch, and a frew variations of that. also cvts are fine when build properly. the way they bastardised them for consumer cars, and for whatever reason put simulated shifting in. they mostly better for lower power stuff, but they are also used in HUGE excevation and mining equipment, but they are nowhere near related to those nasty rubber things in cars.
Bro I literally drive an automatic 02 Corolla… how do you expect me to have a manual mode… Manz really said “first way to enjoy an automatic is put it in manual…”
Most car makers are leaning towards CVT nowadays including Honda and Toyota, known to make reliable engines. Though agree they may not be very fun to drive.
Hey Mick, thank you for this content. I have a few doubts, 1. So I own DCT transmission powered with a hybrid battery. So when I decelerate or slowdown the battery powers up on the EV mode. So lets say my EV mode is on and im in a traffic, will that still wear of the clutch? My vehicle is a Honda Vezel 2014 hybrid 2. Can you drive a DCT on manual mode on a traffic, what effect would that have on the transmission? 3. I also hear that when you drive hillside roads most of the DCTs get heated up, is it because they dont drive on manual mode on those types of roads or whats the catch on driving hillside on a DCT.
so in short: 1. the fun of auto is making it a manual 2. dont hold the clutch halfway unnecessarily 3. the car will drive in the highest possible gear + not knowing that yes, maual drivers do that all the time
Oat-o-matic sounds like a new Starbucks vegan friendly drink or something 🤣 but in all seriousness sorry to comment I had to🤣 but Excel video as always 👍
is it normal when you release the foot break, when car is in D or R. The breaks sliding with car momentum and it make noise. Is it normal in automatic cars
2 month ago I watched your video about spirited drive. So I went on a trip, valleys, foresty road, 60-70km/h on a 90km/h limit. Totally enjoyed the drive. Now my car is in ruin because a romanian lorry was there. After this I dunno why I watched this video aswell.
Sorry about your car. But yes, this guy's "spirited driving" is quite dangerous on public roads. You should read my comment on his recent "late to work" video, he doesn't know how to safely drive quickly on roads.
you are selling me on getting an auto as first car, but still doing manual license ofc, checked some auto cars and damn insurance pricey, they all like that? or you got an auto in mind that maybe could work as a first car? great vid mate
You shouldn't be so negative about CVTs as there are some really reliable ones like the Toyota e-CVT (which isn't using a classical belt drive, that's why it is better)
The paddles are better than manual mode on the shifter. I always go with paddles but also the kickback you get in 6th and goes to 4th then 5th then whoosh, you're off. No manual can compare with that.
Stop Driving One Handed and with your hand at the bottom of the wheel, you are not in full control. “I don’t want to go to fast and crazy,” but I will constantly brake the speed limit. Torque Converter Automatics are not harmed during creeping forward or reversing. I had a Rover 827 with 150,000 + miles, also a Vauxhall Omega 200,000+ miles. Never had a Torque Converter or Gearbox Fault on either car. Automatic Gearboxes Normally Select the Gear Appropriate for the Car to be in the Best Rev Range For what is Required, not all will be in 6th Gear at 40mph, it depends on how many Gear Ratios to Gearbox has. Its a known fact Automatic Cars are not as Economical as There Manual Equivalents. At Motorway Speeds to be in the Highest Gear is More Economical, but to be in the Highest Gear at Low Speed with Low Revs, isn’t as Fuel Efficient as the Engine will have to work harder to try and keep that low speed constant.
How do you notice the wheel spin 3:10? I can't notice it unless i accelerate too hard after stopping to get away from the intersection ( mostly during winter it happens to me ) but in that conditions I didn't even think about that
Its something you feel, or failing that if you have traction control turned on you're likely to get a brief flashing light telling you something is amidst lol
Thank heaves we don't have otomatic transmissions where I come from; they sound dreadful. We have automatic ones and they are fine, including the trouble-free CVT on a six-cylinder Subaru I've been driving for 9 years.
Man, I have an electric car. I have no idea how the torque and speed adjustments are done in my car. I think is all software-dependent because is the electric engine that can do most of the things that and engine-transmisson do in an ICE car.
How to have fun with an automatic transmission: Literally point 1: Put it in manual mode Literally point 2: Showcasing how automatic transmissions are basically destroying themselves by not acting automatically Point 3 is sometimes invalid: Shifting in those incredibly high gears at low speeds and then accelerating is NOT good for the engine. I love Mick and learned lots of useful things from him, but this video I can't really stand behind, sorry...
as he said a bit later those transmissions produced by engineers and they probably know more about this stuff than we do don't get me wrong but i'm in quite doubt that auto concerns would add this "manual option" if it was that destroyable, at least VAG have significantly improved their DSG over the years, nothing stands still
@@totorasper7080 Engineers nowadays mostly (!) don't test in real conditions any more, they just simulate cars in software and then build them. Thus why we have a lower reliability than with older cars. Also, you understood the comment wrong, I didn't connect points 1 and 2. The transmissions aren't destroying themselves because of the manual mode; actually that's the best thing you can do to your car, shifting yourself in manual mode. They are destroying themselves by not completely connecting the clutches and letting them slip. Engineers do know better, but the economy forces them to develop engines and transmissions like this, resulting in failures. I should know, I am an engineer myself and I am truly sad.
Automatics are better than manuals overall in general & are always improving. They’re easier to learn sure, however they have a higher skill ceiling. You’re also focusing on less things & can actually enjoy the drive more. Only car snobs are obsessively bias to manual cars, true car enjoyers & enthusiasts just enjoy the feel of manuals & acknowledge automatics will eventually cause manuals to be phased-out one day. It’s like pop-up headlights, may they rest in peace.
I love how you pronounce "automatic" ...."Oh ta matic " heheh
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Lmao I was going to comment on this😁
Like what even is that 😂
especially when it supposed to be automated...
He's British, 😂 WATER : VOTA
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If you want a reliable cvt, buy a toyota, as a toyota mechanic we got cvt cars coming into the shop with nearly half a million kilometers on the original transmission. I dont know how they do it, but they seem to be the only manufacturer who actually produces proper cvts. Also almost all their hybrids use cvt.
Hmm I have heard cvt is quite reliable in slower cars. Do you know anything about the models over 200hp with cvt? Do they hold up? Also heavier cars
@@vics5623 well the Rav4 hybrid models use a cvt, and they push up to 220hp and weigh about 1700kg or 3747lb and they dont seem to have any issues either. We’ve had 0 transmission related issues with the hybrid ravs so far, so toyota is doing a good job at making solid cvts even for heavier and more powerful vehicles. But since i work at a toyota dealer the vehicles that come here are well and regularly maintained. So i cannot say for sure how reliable they are when they aren’t well maintained. But the only real maintenance that is done on these transmissions are transmission fluid changes. Besides the rav 4 i dont really know of any cvt toyota that does have common transmission issues, and cvt complaints are quite rare in general. In fact we have more complaints about the manual or normal automatic transmission than we do for cvts.
@@vics5623Subaru optimized their CVT transmission for performance - WRX has 270hp and 400NM torque with CVT. And cars like Lexus and Acura perform really well with CVT. To be honest, most CVT 'unpleasantness' is down to the lack of engine power.
There's two different types of CVT, belt/chain driven(belt is usually for mopeds, lawnmowers and such), chain for your typical CVT, and then there's the eCVT. it uses one or more electric motors to change the output speed via a sun gear transmission. this allows the engine to spin almost freely completely disconnected from the drivetrain, and when that electric motor spins up, it then puts load on the engine, and how much load goes onto the engine determines the output power.
eCVTs are way more reliable, as there's no belt, chain or loss from the pullys. I'd say they have a higher load rating than traditional CVTs, but they are still light duty transmissions, and can only output the power rating of the electric motor/s itself.
The first point just changed the auto to manual 😂😂
some purists argue otherwise
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no.......... Manual transmissions have a clutch ..... PERIOD.... OVER
Toyota Hybrids are not conventional CVTs, they use duel motors and the engine to create a continuously variable transmission. Very reliable. CVT type transmissions can also hold the engine at peak power output, no other transmission can do that.
Agreed. I’m running my second Toyota hybrid. It’s more refined than the previous one overall. They actually use the term ‘eCVT’ in most of the documentation about it for the mechanical side - but the electric side of the hybrid is king, when it comes to brisk starts from rest. Zero risk of stalling etc. All traction motors have the property of being able to turn out maximum torque at zero speed, which results in the simplest mechanical transmission both on the road and on the railway.
You’re right about them using constant engine speed when required, but a lot of that is to optimise the thermal efficiency, along with no idling at low speed.
This is is why i love my hybrid its surprisingly fast
Oh to matic
3 things Mick doesn't understand about automatic cars:
1. Not all auto cars have a manual mode
2. Not all manual modes are the same; many will shift up and most will shift down (including kick-down)
3. Creeping on a torque converter is totally fine.
How do we differentiate between different manual modes when buying a new car? Is it mentioned in the specs or do we have to test drive it to know?
@@Omarock Yes, in effect, you have to drive it to know whether or not you're screwed.
@@Omarock The dealer should know; it's normally not in the marketing materials, though sometimes it's mentioned in the owner's manual. Test drive is probably the easiest way to tell (and to tell about a few more things too).
I think his target audience is British people who like driving and not Americans, or British people who only see their car as a tool. I'm not making any presumptions about yourself 😉
I can confirm that the manual mode on mothers lowly aygo is pretty obedient as confirmed by myself when I've tested it, and by her when she's attempted to use it then given up because she always found appropriate gear for desired speed and style of progression to be somewhat confusing. You have to allow it to be obedient though, so manual means manual, until it HAS to intervene such as to avoid a stall. At the other extreme it will just sit at the rev limiter.
I'd be interested to see a video with a proper crappy old school auto on a simple cheap when new car. A lot of small new cars could be considered slightly premium these days, Micks Clio included 👍
So true
I've always driven manuals. I recently bought a '22 Supra, which is auto because the manuals are so hard to come by.
*ZERO* regrets. Autos have come so far these last few decades. I could never shift as quickly as this auto, plus now I have a free hand instead of always needing one available for shifting.
The ZF-8 speed in that car is basically the gold standard!
But you do have paddle shifters right? Without it I don't think I could ever but a sport car that isn't good ol' stick shift manual.
@@oribt1 Yeah, it has paddle shifters. I don't use them very often, but it is nice being able to downshift manually when I need to pass quickly.
I still would have waited for a true manual to show up
Autos can be fun when you have more hp but it’s harder when you have 120 hp automatic. Then you can’t control the power as much unfortunately
the first thing you have to do to have fun with an automatic car is change it to manual mode 😂😂😂😂
That`s something
Hi, i have started driving after getting an apprentice permit, and you have helped me so much mate, thank you
Looking like a saint with that sunlight😄
Haha the lighting finally blessed me
Hands down the best explained video on automatics. I am still unsure and need to do a few more test drives to confirm whether I want to make the switch, but this video has come closer to convincing me.
I think the fundamental issue is the lack of that third pedal. I really enjoy the connection you have to the car, and whilst dual clutch is a happy medium, it still cannot rival that visceral feeling you get from a manual transmission.
Great vid as always Mick!
I can't see what benefit you would get from an automatic transmission.
Maybe you would find one that seems fun on a test drive, but the novelty will wear off within a week and you will wish you had a manual transmission again.
Thanks dude! They honestly are great!
I will say - my next car I'm going back to manual. I don't commute anymore and I'm looking for that extra 5% engagement
Honestly, I have both. To help you with your decision think about it like this: How is your daily commute to work? Do you creep allot in standing traffic? Do you want to be engaged with the driving or just not care about it? If you are stuck allot in traffic (city driving) I recommend going automatic as it is more relaxing. But if you want to be more engaged with your car all the time, stick with the manual. Sure you can go manual on a automatic, but I never find myself doing that unless I actively search for a nice B road.
To be honest a lot of 'manual' modes across different cars are frustrating to say the least. perhaps on more performance oriented car they allow more control, but in other cars they can intervene more than they should for a 'manual mode' resulting in a frustrating experience.
fantastic video, great tips and alot of care out into it
in my cvt (🤮) impreza it doesnt intervene at all, aside from not letting you money shift
@@Scotty-vs4lfi mean a cvt just fake shifts, it has no gears
@@kingslayer2731 yeah it just let u switch between different gear ratios in manual mode
@@Scotty-vs4lf why in the name of anything involving forwards motion would you choose to hamper an Impreza with hairdryer gearing?
I realise I'm sounding old because I'm thinking of the fast stuff and not the modern day badge.
@@davidmoore4615 wdym hairdryer gearing?
its obviously a slow car but on backroads manual mode is infinitely better. better throttle response and its easier to stay near the limit when its the right time and place
Torque converter: The medium between propeller and impeller is oil. How is it supposed to wear when creeping. In drive, it is engaged all the time. That is actually the main advantage of a torque converter, especially when maneuvring a trailer. The oil might get hot, and you shouldn't let it creep for hours of course, but in dense traffic, i don't see an issue tbh.
Why there is a blurry box? 🙄 BTW thank you, for explaining the basics. Even though I have my drivers licence for more than 20years, I learned something new! You got a sub, looking forward new videos😊
I had an RS Megane 225. Manual. It made me feel like I was a racing driver. Then I got a Mini Cooper S with a basic auto box. Made me realize I could accelerate faster without having to change the gears myself. One less pedal to worry about. Never bothered with the "manual" mode. Made me feel like I was playing a computer game. Driving a Nissan Juke auto at the moment (don't ask), and that has a sports mode and a manual mode. It's not fun at all. Good video, mate.
As someone who is picking his first auto a seat leon dsg next week, this video came at a perfect time
I've been driving since 1966 and I now have my second automatic. The first - 30 years ago was a Borg Warner 3 Speed box, which I had for only 18 months. One year ago, I bought a car with an eight-speed auto torque converter box and I just love the effortless driving experience. I've tried manual mode but even after a total of 56 years of manual boxes,with the flappy paddle changing, I just can't get my timing right and if I'm in manual mode and pull away from lights, I sometimes forget and when the engine's at 6,000rpm I suddenly remember to change up! And the box will still change down if it thinks I'm going too slow for a gear! I think I'd better watch Mick's video on driving in manual mode.
Can you please fix the light exposure settings of your camera
This is a fantastic video. You should have also mentioned, the E CVT which runs on two electric motors
I really enjoy the videos on this channel, yes I’m from America, and they get better and better. It’s helping chill my crazy NYC driving (even though every time I drive normal, that’s when I encounter the dumb stuff other drivers do), but really becoming one with the car is so exhilarating! Keep up the good work! Also, you now sound more like Judge Rinder and I like that show, so yeah that’s kinda cool.
So, I have a 20 year old Audi A3 with manual transmission and over 300000 km on the clock. The clutch is still the first one.
Now I'm looking for a BMW 128ti, which unfortunately is only available with automatic transmission. That sucks! But I have to replace my car because of various defects (turbo, power steering).
So if I want a 128ti, I have to go for an automatic. But this video disappoints me as far as automatics go.
The way I see it, an automatic offers me no advantages whatsoever.
If I want to have fun, I have to switch to manual mode.
If I want to have a long life, I have to be careful.
If I want to save fuel, I have to ...
What I'm trying to say is: I hate the automotive industry for doing away with the manual transmission.
I fully intend for my next car to be manual as I have an automatic already. That being said, it was one of the best decisions I made to have myself experience an autobox, as I never would have fallen in love with "the drive" otherwise, and I would have been yet another idiot trying to clout chase with constant grinding and power figures. I also have learned a lot of nuances, especially left foot braking.
Thanks for fighting against the manual only dogma, I think that both are worth understanding!
My dad has a 2006 2.0 TDI pump injection Seat Altea with a 6-speed DSG: with due maintenance and some precautions, it is still one of the most enjoyable and reliable double clutch transmissions ever made: gentle and smooth in D and raging in S (or manual). Unfortunately, I cannot drive a Euro 4 diesel here where I live because of emissions restrictions, but I miss that car...
How to have fun in an automatic car:
Step 1: Put it in manual mode
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Ok, but for real in my budget I don't really have a choice because older cheaper cars come with torque converter (usually 4 speed) gearboxes which make already slow ~150hp engines feel even more sluggish and are less fuel efficient. Manual is the better option here if I want to have some fun. Maybe my budget will allow for fun automatic car someday.
Try a late 90s 1.3i automatic hyundai accent with something like 70hp. Yep, that's what I was blessed with before parents caved in and helped me get my own car. I think it was actually 3 gears + overdrive it was so ancient underneath. I would joke to my mates that O/D off was sport mode 😂😂 luckily for my social dignity none of them were into cars.
This was a long time ago - I've not long turned 40 so 😂
All nice and well, but I still prefer the feel of changing gears with a gearstick, to feel the gears engage.
I'm a paddleshifter guy but I remember banging through all the fears on my Miata, may not have been as fast as my current car but it had a soul.
Some nuance: Torque converters, the mechanical components, DO NOT wear. Torque converters cause the automatic transmission fluid to heat up rapidly when they create large amounts of torque multiplication and slippage (and those things are related but not the same), and ATF breaks down at temperatures above 110 degrees C. Worn out, dirty, burnt fluid is bad for an automatic transmission, but the mechanical components of the torque converter could not be less affected by this slippage. The torque converter clutch on the other hand - the component responsible for locking the torque converter and reducing slip - absolutely can and does wear out. They usually wear out when worn, dirty, burnt ATF goes through the system and reduces line pressure on the TCC, causing it to slip more than "desired". Perversely, some auto manufacturers engineered their torque converters to feature clutches which are designed to slip. These designs are horrific for longevity, especially if the ATF is ever allowed to get hot. In general, torque converter clutches only slip when more power is sent through them than they were designed to handle, as in when the engine is tuned to make more than factory power and torque.
Love this, thank you! I had a surface level understanding but now I actually get what's going on!
The advice to use manual mode to prevent unwanted downshifting made me chuckle a little. My 25 year old land barge with a 3 speed does not give me that option! Anyways, great video!
2:21 Toyota's e-CVT is darn good. No torque converter. No belt. A planetary gearset driven by 2 electric motors and the engine. They're practically indestructible and they do exactly what you want when you want.
In fact, a DCT gearbox si identical to a manual gearbox. The clutch is the fragile part. The torque converter automatic gearbox and CVT's are trully automatic
Has anyone seen that Mitchell and Webb sketch where the bloke uses his hands too much on TV?
Just discovered your channel. Very educational my man.
Thanks so much! I really enjoy your videos ever since I stumbled across them on the net. I think you are so much better so many others, even professional driving instructors, in the way that rather than teach how to pull the wheel this or press pedal that way you are giving a holistic view on what it takes to be a safe and efficient driver.
I have a problem with my left foot so after 25 years all manual motoring I’ve had to go auto.
The family wagon is a lumbering beast with a big engine and while I agree totally with your manual mode there is also a certain enjoyment to using fine throttle control when in D to ensure the car is in and stays in the gear you want. Great way of having a fun drive with the kids in the car. But manual mode when I’m on my own and want to enjoy the drive.
Speaking of which, the ZF8 you mention is in my BMW and if they told me it was a dual clutch, I might believe them compared to the torque converter in my 15 year old Audi!
I understand the benefits of fuel economy on the highway but some gearboxes really under-rev the engine and this is bad for two reasons: when you want to accelerate, if you press slowly on the pedal it will lug the engine a bit until it decides to shift down and for turbocharged engines, the turbo isn't spinning as much as it should, or at all. If you select the gears manually or stay in sports mode it's fine but on eco or even normal I find myself manually overriding the transmission before accelerating just to avoid these issues.
I have a Aisin EAT-8 torque converter, the behavior is different for different models.
The trick I used when I drove Automatic 520d was to give a quick blip of throttle to force the gearbox to downshift. Once the downshift happens, I can proceed to puch down throttle as required.
I actually do shift to 5th at around 40 mph a lot. But only when I don't need to accelerate further and when I'm not going up a hill. I also do this to keep my momentum at a slight descent without needing to press the gas pedal.
5th at 40 isn't crazy tbh
But these autos will go 5th at 30... Feels so unnatural
@MickDrivesCars Yes that's true. 5th at 30 and 6th at 40 fells kinda wrong in a manual...
I drive a DCT and I absolutely love it. It feels like a race car, minus the power 😅
Good watching after I test drove a Fiat 500X yesterday. I normally drive a 110BHP EV so thought it wouldn't be too different but all the little technology and feeling the gear shifts is a lot of get acquainted with. I pout the 500X in manual mode and felt like it was in its best use case
I drove manuals exclusively for 30 years and now I drive an auto. There's some really decent automatic transmissions out there now and traffic is worse than it's ever been.
These days I'm happy to trade some fun for a lot of convenience but it depends on the vehicle and how good the auto transmission is.
Fantastic and sound advice given on this video. The little details are correct and without doubt in my opinion would make these gearboxes last a long time.
This will be the future of all cars, however the general public wont learn the finer techniques.
I enjoy my automatics and agree that they are better than manual which are not bomb proof either due to dual mass flywheels.
Certain drivers will always be rough and plenty will have feel and apply technique.
As an oldie even I am learning!!
You're the best! So easy to understand and enjoyable to watch!👍👍
The automatic goes up the gears when it senses a lack of engine load. That's why it was going up when you were holding a constant speed round a corner, which you found annoying because it wasn't ready to pounce out of the corner.
As for 6th at 40, depends on the car. I had a 6 speed cooper S that was already at 1600 rpm, which was plenty for rolling down a level road at 40. That thing did fine in 6th even uphill at 30. A 2 liter diesel Vauxhall Insignia gives you about 1000 rpm, and whilst I haven't driven one, that can't be far above idle, so the car might just about roll until you come to a slight incline where it will probably vibrate when you press the accelerator.
the new hybrid rav 4 has a CVT. It's nothing special but as the revs stay consistent the rumble sounds surprisingly good sometimes when you're just teasing the throttle a little in sport mode. Would still prefer a normal auto tho :D
You should do tips on RWD cars
:)
Stay tuned!
In the early 90s, the williams f1 team developed a really quite good cvt that was unfortunately banned by the fia before they could use it a race
Can you make a video next on how to keep a centered lane. Despite driving for 5 years now, I end up leaning more on the left side of the lane, or hug the line I’m making turns on. Whenever I turn on my lane assist to center myself, it feels like ima crash onto someone 😅
12:24 one of the reasons why manuals are more reliable, because you can do what you described without slipping the clutch (or touching the accelerator) and still have superior control in stop and go traffic. You can let the car creep forward in 1st or 2nd gear completely off the clutch, but you have to be careful with the accelerator on 1st gear (sudden lift off is brutal).
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR AN UPLOAD 🥰
I missed last week! I profusely apologise ♥️
thanks I have the clio with EDC and will deffinitely STOP creeping in traffic without gass pedal... I did 25k kilometers so hopefully its not runied yet!
you gotta dance with the manual, feels more rewarding. Theres much more to learn and some people want that. For me its not about going as fast as i can but about having more fun.
Awesome video Mick, very useful.
What about put neutral on a stop (eg while standing on a red traffic light)? Is it a good thing or it wears out the clutch?
Creeping up a hill too slow in 2nd will do no damage to the torque converter. You would, however, be lugging the engine and potentially stalling if the car doesn't intervene. Excess friction and heat are what kill torque converters, or in other words, high RPMs for extended durations or changing from extremes of speed very often (eg, ragging it from every set of lights).
Perfect timing for a video, I'm thinking of a BMW F31 Touring 330d (2012-2016ish) and they all have the ZF box. Always been put off, but most research says they are solid. Let's see.... Subbed!
If you consider topic to talk about. Please tell us if your drivers as community have some kind of code, like extention to rules, or even amendments maybe. Or common habbits which suppliment official rules. For example our drivers, let's assume it is left sided system, when approaching T- intersection with main road to make left turn, should signal left, but they are signaling right to notify drivers on main road they are going to join main flow.
Also, would be interesting to know about gestures and light signals as communications between drivers. For example, do you make two short far flashes to warn other drivers about police in the bush?
1 thing you don't understand about cvt, subaru cvt gearboxes a lot of fun and reliability. :)
this is 100% true in the case of the WRX, though it is worth knowing you NEED to change your fluid every 30k or so miles. In the U.S. they are billed as lifetime fluid which is of course BS.
@@MidnightGreen4649 remember 1 thing, all difficult condition may be proper maintained in case of wrx, rs etc, if you use it in corner edge conditions, it's best practice.
I quite often change gears when exiting a roundabout, but I will usually accelerate in 4th, and then skip 5th unless I'm going to be cruising there. But sure, hands down it's never going to be as efficient as an auto 😁
Why you saying automatic like that
I understand that you shouldn't stop and go in 2nd. but what if you're at a complete stop at a red light, resting in second, then accelerate off to third when green. it shouldn't be slipping given i'm still the entire time i'm in second. is that correct?
I guess this is super dependent whether or not you have a new or an old automatic transmission. my car doesn't have a manual mode, and waits 2 seconds before up shifting. I can still choose what gear to downshift and use, but I have a PRND2L stick with an Overdrive button, so it's not the same.
Incredible video I love the simplicity of your explanations. I do just have one question about the economy of autos, I thought that keeping my car in too high a gear was bad for the economy? I live in a very hilly area so when I am on a uphill and in too high of a gear I find myself having to use a lot more of the throttle and I thought there has to be a point where the engine is exerting more energy than necessary, so gearing down and driving with the rpm higher to maintain speed was the best thing to do?
1:16 And MTA. It's a manual box, but it shifts robotically
Hi Mick, i have owned 5 New Subaru WRX since 2005. my first 2 were manual, my last 2 were CVT, i have recently purchased a new 2023 WRX Sport it has the new Subaru SPT auto, it is just brilliant to drive smooth and rapid responce when required. Please do test drive the new WRX SPT (cvt) BTW i do like the Renault Megan RS i have owned 2 new Renault, and 5 new Peugeot cars. 👍 Au.
The newer 10th gen + honda cvts are better than ever before. I have had zero issues with mine (2018)
15:10 the reason I dont hold 6th at 40 isn't because it feels unnatural, it's because I'd need to manually change down if I wanted more power from the engine - the lack of kick-down makes the car feel unresponsive when holding such a high gear
Most CVT 'unpleasantness' is down to the lack of engine power. Any automatic transmission will struggle in a city car with horsepower less than 80. Torque converter will perform similarly poor, and there's basically no DCT offering. A car with 150hp or more (something like 1.8L NA or 1.5L turbo engine) drives decently good with CVT.
You should really research the fourth type of automatic transmissions, Toyota / Lexus so-called eCVTs, which are not like your other CVTs, but essentially a totally different type of transmission. I think 'planetary gearset' or epicyclic gear train is a more proper name for them.
most automatics use planetary gears. If I'm not mistaken, the Toyota Corolla has a CVT with a traditional first gear to help with acceleration from a stop.
Great video! quick question, i have DSG Polo and i've had multiple issues (not all about wear and tear) the last couple of years with the gearbox. I live on a small but steep hill and the first thing my car has to do each morning is creep down the road. If i accelerate i find that the car picks up too much speed, so naturally (i drove manual for years), i'll let it creep and it does something like a hill decent controlled speed of around 15-20 Km/hour. Can i approach this differently? Thank you!
I drive a manual and shift into 5th-6th gear when crusing on 20-30 mph roads...cost of living and all
My issue with autos is that I absolutely hate the fact that I cannot skip gears. Let’s say I’m in 7th gear, but I decide I want to do a hard pull for which I need 4th. In a proper manual, I can just go down to whatever gear I want immediately, but in an auto I need to switch sequentially. This feels absolutely horrible.
The auto dsg box on an audi rs3 allows you to go down several gears at once. If you hold the left pedal for a second or two, it automatically goes down 2 or even 3 gears to give you the best rpms for acceleration immediatly. Idk about other cars but there must be more cars that can do that.
Amazing video dude but just remember to be cleaning the lenses of the camera's that you use ✌
Dude I wiped the lens like 4 times, it was fogging up because filming in a car without the climate running fogs everything up 😂
theres also single clutch, and a frew variations of that.
also cvts are fine when build properly. the way they bastardised them for consumer cars, and for whatever reason put simulated shifting in. they mostly better for lower power stuff,
but they are also used in HUGE excevation and mining equipment, but they are nowhere near related to those nasty rubber things in cars.
Oh wow I completely forgot about single clutch autos!
And also forgot about planetary gear transmission and robotized manual.
@@jancervinka7424 planetary gears falll under torque converter... i guess generally.
robotized manual, kinda encompases everything else except cvt
Bro I literally drive an automatic 02 Corolla… how do you expect me to have a manual mode…
Manz really said “first way to enjoy an automatic is put it in manual…”
And what about putting gear in NEUTRAL when stoped on red light ?
Most car makers are leaning towards CVT nowadays including Honda and Toyota, known to make reliable engines. Though agree they may not be very fun to drive.
Hey Mick, thank you for this content. I have a few doubts,
1. So I own DCT transmission powered with a hybrid battery. So when I decelerate or slowdown the battery powers up on the EV mode. So lets say my EV mode is on and im in a traffic, will that still wear of the clutch? My vehicle is a Honda Vezel 2014 hybrid
2. Can you drive a DCT on manual mode on a traffic, what effect would that have on the transmission?
3. I also hear that when you drive hillside roads most of the DCTs get heated up, is it because they dont drive on manual mode on those types of roads or whats the catch on driving hillside on a DCT.
Why is there a blur box throughout the whole video? It's not really blocking anything sensitive
so in short:
1. the fun of auto is making it a manual
2. dont hold the clutch halfway unnecessarily
3. the car will drive in the highest possible gear + not knowing that yes, maual drivers do that all the time
man i could make a series on "3 things mick doesn't understand about X"
You need to hang out with him I could make a million videos on him 😂
Oat-o-matic sounds like a new Starbucks vegan friendly drink or something 🤣 but in all seriousness sorry to comment I had to🤣 but Excel video as always 👍
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is it normal when you release the foot break, when car is in D or R. The breaks sliding with car momentum and it make noise. Is it normal in automatic cars
2 month ago I watched your video about spirited drive. So I went on a trip, valleys, foresty road, 60-70km/h on a 90km/h limit. Totally enjoyed the drive. Now my car is in ruin because a romanian lorry was there. After this I dunno why I watched this video aswell.
Sorry about your car. But yes, this guy's "spirited driving" is quite dangerous on public roads. You should read my comment on his recent "late to work" video, he doesn't know how to safely drive quickly on roads.
@@PointNemo9Every video he does he further confirms he's a clueless Muppet, what's more staggering is how people think he's worth listening to.
Never realised that some DCT gearboxes move when you take your foot off the brake. My M2 doesn't.
they do and personally I find it really annoying at times,
So interesting that you pronounce "Auto" correctly but say "Otamatic"
you are selling me on getting an auto as first car, but still doing manual license ofc, checked some auto cars and damn insurance pricey, they all like that? or you got an auto in mind that maybe could work as a first car? great vid mate
I would highly reccomend starting with a manual, stick shift car. It is a lot more involved with the driving and better fuel economy
You shouldn't be so negative about CVTs as there are some really reliable ones like the Toyota e-CVT (which isn't using a classical belt drive, that's why it is better)
Also some terrible ones like those in every Nissan that constatnly fail and cost you £6k to replace...
The paddles are better than manual mode on the shifter. I always go with paddles but also the kickback you get in 6th and goes to 4th then 5th then whoosh, you're off. No manual can compare with that.
if I floor the throttle in my volks in manual mode it assumes I dont have the slightest idea of what Im doing and it downshifts
Wth was with the blur box and then the weird animation effect at the end...
"...if you like the video - like the video"
done, captain.
Much appreciated sir 👊
Stop Driving One Handed and with your hand at the bottom of the wheel, you are not in full control. “I don’t want to go to fast and crazy,” but I will constantly brake the speed limit. Torque Converter Automatics are not harmed during creeping forward or reversing. I had a Rover 827 with 150,000 + miles, also a Vauxhall Omega 200,000+ miles. Never had a Torque Converter or Gearbox Fault on either car. Automatic Gearboxes Normally Select the Gear Appropriate for the Car to be in the Best Rev Range For what is Required, not all will be in 6th Gear at 40mph, it depends on how many Gear Ratios to Gearbox has. Its a known fact Automatic Cars are not as Economical as There Manual Equivalents. At Motorway Speeds to be in the Highest Gear is More Economical, but to be in the Highest Gear at Low Speed with Low Revs, isn’t as Fuel Efficient as the Engine will have to work harder to try and keep that low speed constant.
Arrrgghhh couldn't cope with the Oh To Matic rediculousness :(
My bimmer on manual on ds always except when i want to save 1 or 2 liters per mile😂
Well, I dont have manual mode :(
How do you notice the wheel spin 3:10? I can't notice it unless i accelerate too hard after stopping to get away from the intersection ( mostly during winter it happens to me ) but in that conditions I didn't even think about that
Its something you feel, or failing that if you have traction control turned on you're likely to get a brief flashing light telling you something is amidst lol
How do you wear off a torque converter?
Thank heaves we don't have otomatic transmissions where I come from; they sound dreadful. We have automatic ones and they are fine, including the trouble-free CVT on a six-cylinder Subaru I've been driving for 9 years.
Man, I have an electric car. I have no idea how the torque and speed adjustments are done in my car.
I think is all software-dependent because is the electric engine that can do most of the things that and engine-transmisson do in an ICE car.
in electric cars theres is only 1 gear with no clutch, so you dont need to worry about any of that
We might as well get used to them now it will be the future afterall as electrics car are only 2 pedals,loving my dsg 94k trouble free.
Can you money shift in manual mode?
Nope, it won't let you
How to have fun with an automatic transmission:
Literally point 1: Put it in manual mode
Literally point 2: Showcasing how automatic transmissions are basically destroying themselves by not acting automatically
Point 3 is sometimes invalid: Shifting in those incredibly high gears at low speeds and then accelerating is NOT good for the engine.
I love Mick and learned lots of useful things from him, but this video I can't really stand behind, sorry...
as he said a bit later those transmissions produced by engineers and they probably know more about this stuff than we do
don't get me wrong but i'm in quite doubt that auto concerns would add this "manual option" if it was that destroyable, at least VAG have significantly improved their DSG over the years, nothing stands still
@@totorasper7080 Engineers nowadays mostly (!) don't test in real conditions any more, they just simulate cars in software and then build them. Thus why we have a lower reliability than with older cars.
Also, you understood the comment wrong, I didn't connect points 1 and 2. The transmissions aren't destroying themselves because of the manual mode; actually that's the best thing you can do to your car, shifting yourself in manual mode. They are destroying themselves by not completely connecting the clutches and letting them slip.
Engineers do know better, but the economy forces them to develop engines and transmissions like this, resulting in failures. I should know, I am an engineer myself and I am truly sad.
Automatics are better than manuals overall in general & are always improving.
They’re easier to learn sure, however they have a higher skill ceiling.
You’re also focusing on less things & can actually enjoy the drive more.
Only car snobs are obsessively bias to manual cars, true car enjoyers & enthusiasts just enjoy the feel of manuals & acknowledge automatics will eventually cause manuals to be phased-out one day.
It’s like pop-up headlights, may they rest in peace.