Thanks for the great interview Andy, or should I say, for a great conversation with a fellow drummer. For me, a proper musician interviewing another musician is always very gratifying. I learned a lot. Thanks again!. I would like share some of my history listening to Paul Wertico. I have been a fan Pat Metheny for years. I saw Wertico perform with the PMG on the First Circle tour back when I lived in Michigan, USA. I must have seem Paul with the PMG at least three times back in the 80s. Very memorable concerts for me. I am now living in Denmark and in August of 2024 I saw Paul (along with Steve Rodby) perform with Mike Stern! It was an amazing gig by an amazing band and I loved Paul's performance!. I would have never dreamed back in the early 80s that I would see Wertico and Rodby again in Denmark in 2024 let alone with Mike Stern! Life is interesting and music makes life better!
Paul Werticos's propulsive, subtle, pyrotechnical drumming and cymbal work is what drove the incredible melodies of the Pat Metheny Group sound to such incredible heights. Getting this far too-understated legend on your show is yet another sign of your genius and love of the music. Thanks, Andy.
That Paul plays on my favourite PMG album, Imaginary Day, says it all really. Also we are both called Paul. My work is done here. Well done Andy for getting Mr Wertico on your channel. Thank you Mr Wertico for gracing us with your presence. Happy new year people!!
I was at the Knitting Factory gig with Paul, Pat, Gregg and Derek...The second loudest gig I ever heard. It was so out there, which I dug, but it made Derek sound almost like an insider folk/jazz player, as Pat, Paul and Gregg were out of their minds on that set. I remember before the gig, I was hanging in the front room with Danny Gottleib and Mark Egan who were there to listen. I was also on a date which turned out to be the only date, evidently...Pat walked in and had a look on his face like he was on a mission...a mission, indeed!
Drumming, as simple as it seemed to me at one time, seems much more multi-faceted to me now. A little snippet from Paul reminded me again of the importance of wrist movements and posture for drummers.
Oh.....that was wonderful!!!! Typical Paul.....he has always been nothing short of a lovely gentleman with time for everyone. My favourite spot at PMG concerts was sat between Pat and Paul and watch the interaction, and you could still see Lyle. Happy, happy days. Another brilliant interview Andy ❤ Beautiful drummer and human being!!!
Oh this was great. Paul is a big hero. I got to take some lessons with him at his house back in the 90s. He showed me the dual flat ride idea, he said to think of them talking to each other and that it wasn't pattern based. He also helped me out with my swing feel. Stuff I use to this day.
What a great interview (again) Andy! Bravo! 👍More interviews please! The one you did with Scott Henderson is THE best I´ve ever seen with him (and I´ve seen them all) :). Your deep knowledge, understanding and love for music leads to different and much more interesting questions and discussions...so that´s why....more please 🙏😀
At 14:20 , Andy talks about the difficulty trying to replicate Elvin Jones' playing. When Elvin was asked how they were able to play like they did with Trane, Elvin said " You have to be willing to die with a motherf#$ker ! " . I don't think the level of personal risk Elvin felt is quite that high these days .
Really enjoyable interview. It’s funny he talked about building tension. I saw Paul at the Modern Drummer Festival in the 90s. During one of his solos, he used some plastic tubes and played 16th notes on his cymbal for what seemed like 10 minutes straight. It really built up the tension in myself and in the room. I wondered if he was ever going to stop, or if he would change it up. It was confusing and frustrating but kind of exciting at the same time.
being a producer/engineer and also a guitarist,you listen differently than a individual muso.i love/play all sorts of music,did a reggae album with vivian jones few years back.the drummer was a jazz guy,who also loved reggae.but we had to pull him back all the time,too many fills,dude we want sly dunbar not buddy rich for this one,im surprised by the amount of rock/fusion/jazz drummers who struggle to get a real reggae groove
Andy fantastic interview. I saw Paul in around 84 8384 somewhere in there where he actually set his drums up so his back was to the audience and he was sort of like center front. The way the stage was set up. It was great.
50:15 I always want to disappear into the music. I feel that, as a drummer, I like being the pulse. Not the sweat. The pulse is felt; not heard. Like any living thing, the music has a pulse, driven by the heart. It changes with the type and intensity of the music. You don't have to hear it, but if it's not there, it's dead.
Enjoyed this immensely. Not sure where the Marco Minnemann conversation went. It seemed to be critical of him overplaying? Sure thing, he is a beast, certainly one of the best out there and you both seemed to say that. My opinion is that when he plays with Guthrie and Bryan Beller in the Aristocrats, he is playing with 2 other monsters and the music calls for him to show off. When he played with Steven Wilson, I don't think he overdid his performances. It would be interesting to hear Andy's more detailed opinions.
I still think there’s so much about drumming that’s still to be discovered. I mean, I don’t think I’m the man to do it… But outside of all the conventions of the 2 and the 4, the backbeat, and all of that, there’s some other way of feeling time in counting time, where are the drum set in the drum set become some other kind of instrument. I’m not even sure what I’m talking about but I know that there’s something there.
Hy andy, cool video,.i have an idea for you. This is the infamous Piero Scaruffi's list of fhe best 25 albums ever. It may be video material. . Artist and Title Label and Year CD reissue 1 Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica Straight, 1969 Reprise, 1990 2 Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom Virgin, 1974 Thirsty Ear, 1998 3 Faust: Faust I Polydor, 1971 Polygram, 2001 4 Velvet Underground: & Nico Verve, 1967 Polygram, 1996 5 Doors: The Doors Elektra, 1967 idem, 1988 6 Tim Buckley: Lorca Elektra, 1970 Asylum, 1992 7 Pere Ubu: Modern DanceBlank, 1978 Geffen, 1998 8 Royal Trux: Twin Infinitives Drag City, 1990 idem, 1994 9 John Fahey: Fare Forward Voyagers Takoma, 1973 Shanachie, 1992 10 Nico: Desert Shore Reprise, 1970 Warner Bros, 1993 11 Popol Vuh: Hosianna Mantra Pilz, 1973 High Tide, 1994 12 Red Crayola: Parable Of Arable Land International Artist, 1967 Spalax, 1994 13 Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht Brain, 1972 Spalax, 1995 14 Nick Cave: The Good Son Mute, 1990 15 Lisa Germano: Geek The Girl 4AD, 1994 16 Morphine: Good Accurate, 1992 17 Bob Dylan: Blonde On Blonde :CBS, 1966 Columbia, 1992 18 Neu!: self-titled UA, 1973 Astralwerks, 2001 19 Foetus: Nail SomeBizarre, 1985 Homestead, 1995 20 Suicide: self-titled Bronze, 1977 Demon, 1995 21 Van Morrison: Astral Weeks Warner Bros, 1968 idem, 1987 22 Residents: Not Available Ralph, 1978 Mute, 2000 23 Pop Group: Y Radar, 1979 idem, 1996 24 Vampire Rodents: Lullaby Land Re-Constriction, 1993 25 Husker Du: Zen Arcade SST, 1984
Thanks for the great interview Andy, or should I say, for a great conversation with a fellow drummer. For me, a proper musician interviewing another musician is always very gratifying. I learned a lot. Thanks again!. I would like share some of my history listening to Paul Wertico.
I have been a fan Pat Metheny for years. I saw Wertico perform with the PMG on the First Circle tour back when I lived in Michigan, USA. I must have seem Paul with the PMG at least three times back in the 80s. Very memorable concerts for me. I am now living in Denmark and in August of 2024 I saw Paul (along with Steve Rodby) perform with Mike Stern! It was an amazing gig by an amazing band and I loved Paul's performance!. I would have never dreamed back in the early 80s that I would see Wertico and Rodby again in Denmark in 2024 let alone with Mike Stern! Life is interesting and music makes life better!
Paul Werticos's propulsive, subtle, pyrotechnical drumming and cymbal work is what drove the incredible melodies of the Pat Metheny Group sound to such incredible heights. Getting this far too-understated legend on your show is yet another sign of your genius and love of the music. Thanks, Andy.
That Paul plays on my favourite PMG album, Imaginary Day, says it all really. Also we are both called Paul. My work is done here. Well done Andy for getting Mr Wertico on your channel. Thank you Mr Wertico for gracing us with your presence. Happy new year people!!
I was at the Knitting Factory gig with Paul, Pat, Gregg and Derek...The second loudest gig I ever heard. It was so out there, which I dug, but it made Derek sound almost like an insider folk/jazz player, as Pat, Paul and Gregg were out of their minds on that set.
I remember before the gig, I was hanging in the front room with Danny Gottleib and Mark Egan who were there to listen. I was also on a date which turned out to be the only date, evidently...Pat walked in and had a look on his face like he was on a mission...a mission, indeed!
Wow, that was delightful. What a great conversation... definitely need this dude back on!
Drumming, as simple as it seemed to me at one time, seems much more multi-faceted to me now. A little snippet from Paul reminded me again of the importance of wrist movements and posture for drummers.
Oh.....that was wonderful!!!! Typical Paul.....he has always been nothing short of a lovely gentleman with time for everyone. My favourite spot at PMG concerts was sat between Pat and Paul and watch the interaction, and you could still see Lyle. Happy, happy days.
Another brilliant interview Andy ❤
Beautiful drummer and human being!!!
Andy, this is great! So many golden nuggets in this podcast.
Oh this was great. Paul is a big hero. I got to take some lessons with him at his house back in the 90s. He showed me the dual flat ride idea, he said to think of them talking to each other and that it wasn't pattern based. He also helped me out with my swing feel. Stuff I use to this day.
What a great interview (again) Andy! Bravo! 👍More interviews please! The one you did with Scott Henderson is THE best I´ve ever seen with him (and I´ve seen them all) :). Your deep knowledge, understanding and love for music leads to different and much more interesting questions and discussions...so that´s why....more please 🙏😀
At 14:20 , Andy talks about the difficulty trying to replicate Elvin Jones' playing. When Elvin was asked how they were able to play like they did with Trane, Elvin said " You have to be willing to die with a motherf#$ker ! " . I don't think the level of personal risk Elvin felt is quite that high these days .
His drumming always amazed me. I want to say musical, but that won’t do it justice. Those who know, know.
Great chat Andy, you should definitely ask Mall Garrett on your show. I had 6 months of lessons with him, great drummer. Paul seems like a nice guy.
Brilliant!!!!! Looking forward to this one!!!!
I'm right with you; you go, Andy, taking us right along with you on a dream excursion through the heart of jazz fusion. What a wonderful journey :)
Happy New Year 🎉
Really enjoyable interview. It’s funny he talked about building tension. I saw Paul at the Modern Drummer Festival in the 90s. During one of his solos, he used some plastic tubes and played 16th notes on his cymbal for what seemed like 10 minutes straight. It really built up the tension in myself and in the room. I wondered if he was ever going to stop, or if he would change it up. It was confusing and frustrating but kind of exciting at the same time.
being a producer/engineer and also a guitarist,you listen differently than a individual muso.i love/play all sorts of music,did a reggae album with vivian jones few years back.the drummer was a jazz guy,who also loved reggae.but we had to pull him back all the time,too many fills,dude we want sly dunbar not buddy rich for this one,im surprised by the amount of rock/fusion/jazz drummers who struggle to get a real reggae groove
Andy fantastic interview. I saw Paul in around 84 8384 somewhere in there where he actually set his drums up so his back was to the audience and he was sort of like center front. The way the stage was set up. It was great.
Great conversation, gents: Hearing those sets with Lyle would be amazing!
Wow this had so many great take aways .Thanks for this incredible interview.
Our pleasure!
Wow, great interview!
50:15 I always want to disappear into the music. I feel that, as a drummer, I like being the pulse. Not the sweat.
The pulse is felt; not heard.
Like any living thing, the music has a pulse, driven by the heart. It changes with the type and intensity of the music.
You don't have to hear it, but if it's not there, it's dead.
Absolutely brilliant Andy what a great interview. Best to you in 2025.
Wow, Paul Wertico. Haven't heard from him in a long time. Awesome interview!
Great conversation! (greetings from France)
Great interview 🥰
Thanks Andy and Paul, hugely enjoyable interview, very inspiring and a great start for 2025. Happy New Year
We can all work together! Fantastic interview!
Wonderful 🥰
Enjoyed this immensely. Not sure where the Marco Minnemann conversation went. It seemed to be critical of him overplaying?
Sure thing, he is a beast, certainly one of the best out there and you both seemed to say that. My opinion is that when he plays with Guthrie and Bryan Beller in the Aristocrats, he is playing with 2 other monsters and the music calls for him to show off. When he played with Steven Wilson, I don't think he overdid his performances.
It would be interesting to hear Andy's more detailed opinions.
Hello fellow old men.
Thank You.
I still think there’s so much about drumming that’s still to be discovered. I mean, I don’t think I’m the man to do it… But outside of all the conventions of the 2 and the 4, the backbeat, and all of that, there’s some other way of feeling time in counting time, where are the drum set in the drum set become some other kind of instrument. I’m not even sure what I’m talking about but I know that there’s something there.
Imagine if Your next guest would be Pat Metheny, epic
love Paul!
Cool.
agreed,different waveforms
He’s has the same birthday as me.
Hy andy, cool video,.i have an idea for you. This is the infamous Piero Scaruffi's list of fhe best 25 albums ever. It may be video material.
.
Artist and Title
Label and Year
CD reissue
1
Captain Beefheart:
Trout Mask Replica
Straight, 1969
Reprise, 1990
2
Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom
Virgin, 1974
Thirsty Ear, 1998
3
Faust: Faust I
Polydor, 1971
Polygram, 2001
4
Velvet Underground:
& Nico
Verve, 1967
Polygram, 1996
5
Doors: The Doors
Elektra, 1967
idem, 1988
6
Tim Buckley: Lorca
Elektra, 1970
Asylum, 1992
7
Pere Ubu:
Modern DanceBlank, 1978
Geffen, 1998
8
Royal Trux: Twin Infinitives
Drag City, 1990
idem, 1994
9
John Fahey: Fare Forward Voyagers
Takoma, 1973
Shanachie, 1992
10
Nico: Desert Shore
Reprise, 1970
Warner Bros, 1993
11
Popol Vuh: Hosianna Mantra
Pilz, 1973
High Tide, 1994
12
Red Crayola: Parable Of Arable Land
International Artist, 1967
Spalax, 1994
13
Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht
Brain, 1972
Spalax, 1995
14
Nick Cave: The Good Son
Mute, 1990
15
Lisa Germano: Geek The Girl
4AD, 1994
16
Morphine: Good
Accurate, 1992
17
Bob Dylan:
Blonde On Blonde :CBS, 1966
Columbia, 1992
18
Neu!: self-titled
UA, 1973
Astralwerks, 2001
19
Foetus: Nail
SomeBizarre, 1985
Homestead, 1995
20
Suicide: self-titled
Bronze, 1977
Demon, 1995
21
Van Morrison: Astral Weeks
Warner Bros, 1968
idem, 1987
22
Residents: Not Available
Ralph, 1978
Mute, 2000
23
Pop Group: Y
Radar, 1979
idem, 1996
24
Vampire Rodents: Lullaby Land
Re-Constriction, 1993
25
Husker Du: Zen Arcade
SST, 1984
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