Time for changing or tranforming our"Consuming society, other word Consuming religion" into a humanitary-enviromental oriented society for decreasing the criminal problem
To see yourself in another being, matter of fact all beings, it is quite difficult. Though, extremely rewarding. What a great answer to such a controversial question. 🖤
I can only hope to achieve a fraction of Thay’s wisdom and compassion. He lived through hell himself, witnessed atrocities and speaks from experience as well as goodness. Be with us in love and peace Thay, we need your compassion still. 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Thich Nhat Hanh is something special. I call Arlo Guthrie a National Treasure. He is Thay N. Hanh is gift to us all. I understand his last talk was around 2013. He continued on this year.
He was nominated by MLK but MLK somehow disqualified his nomination by announcing publicly who he nominated. So they didn’t award the prize to anyone that year. But I’m sure this doesn’t matter to TNH.
I have always felt this but I felt ashamed for my feeling compassion for those who commit violent horrific crimes especially to children but Teacher That Hanh has allowed me to know I was sane and my inner highest knowledge was right ,My life has changes so much from listening to this beautiful monk ,his words slice through all the darkness and the light is poured through ,I will go now and read about the serial killer who tried to kill the Buddha
death penalty is not a penalty. a penalty must have some sort of preventive effect on the (possible) future crimes. prevention means nothing if the person is not alive anymore. so, death penalty is an act of revenge (and not of punishment). if you wanna take revenge, take it yourself. order an law is for mitigating the chaos, not reinforcing it over and over again. i can't believe it's happening. just imagine that you hanged somebody a year ago, and one year later a friend calls you only to tell you that he was innocent. how do you compensate for that? does compensation means anything after being killed by the order of law? if there is no preventive value in it, it's mere revenge. taking revenge must not be the priority (or even the responsibility) of judiciary system, especially when you cannot compensate the possible loss.
@nameless face For the last 4 decades in Iran, we've been dealing with a brutal dictatorship which kills in the name of God. They call themselves as "true muslims", causing a new record of increased hatred towards any spiritual idea among the masses of people. Today, almost 70 percent of Iranian population are atheists. They took our money, our lands, our freedom, our lives, and even our souls. BUT STILL, I believe that American people are facing a situation which is not even comparable to Iran. Everyone knows that what's happening in Iran. Yes, Iran is a real tragedy, but at least it isn't hidden. Same things are happening in the U.S., but nobody knows! People are used to see America as a free country. And it's not! Not at all... U.S. government consists of modern mullahs without beard. They enslave the working class and it's legal! It is hidden in the plane sight. The truth is that Devil is still alive and he is breathing fire into our lives. There is no freedom in any country whatsoever. He changes his appearance, but it's the same shit. We didn't move forward. Not a fuckin centimeter. Life is a bloody treadmill.
What a great answer. I heard the story a bit different. The Budha asked Angugala ( probably spelt wrong ) to cut a branch off a tree which he did and then to reconnect it which he couldn't. The Budha was not afraid of him or death. I think the Budha was trying to prove the point by killing you achieve nothing. If this guy killed the Budha would the King have eventually killed him?
John Paul II's failed assassination saved a man driven to the point of insanity by self-radicalisation. JPII forgave Ali agca, visited him in jail, consoled and prayed for him. Retribution is both sweet and bitter, compassion is noble.
I disagree. If someone slaughtered and rape your daughter would you want them tucked away in some nice prison cell with 3 meals a day, exercise time and social time…? Absolutely not. Monk or no monk.
@@victortancheongwee - I don’t know what that is but what I do know is if someone murdered my family then I’d take the law into my own hands. Here in the UK it’s happening a lot this way now. People are sick of not seeing justice. My opinion and that which is supported by many others too! Is it the right opinion? No, but there are no heavenly gates or flames of hell to contend with after life so do what you think is right.
While there are many people who fit with this ideal of rehabilitation, there are lines crossed that are so extreme that they defy any harm that could have produced it. There are acts so cruel that there is nothing equivalent that could have happened to the person to explain it as they still walk in health to make the choice to harm. I don't know the answer because there is a spiritual paradox in response to such cruelty. It does not feel like love to forgive, it does not feel like love to be passive, it only feels like love to hate and this is the agonizing paradox. I am young in my spiritual practice, but i feel cruelty should be reflected back spiritually onto the perpetrator to instill comprehension. There can be no change of heart without comprehension. This is a missing piece, and I believe that ultimately the universe instills into each perpetrator complete, visceral comprehension of their cruelty from the perspective of those they have harmed. There may be lines that prohibit returning on the journey to enlightenment. I feel that once that comprehension is reflected back, the individual makes the choice towards enlightenment or permanent annihilation from all existence. The judgment on their existence is inherent in the context and extremity of their violation.
Your comment definitely makes me think. I think there is a few different foundations that are required in order to see truth in Thich Nhat Hanh's answer. First what I think is important is the idea of "thoughts think thoughts" instead of "I think thoughts". When you appreciate that our conscious mind (where we identify ourselves as residing) does not bring thoughts into existence, but rather is "passed" thoughts from other unconscious parts of the brain, you begin to realise that we have little to no control over what thoughts enter your consciousness. Secondly, a point that addresses what you said about certain acts being so cruel there is no environment that exists that could lead a person to commit such an act, we have to consider the concept of nature vs nurture. That is, one does not only have to consider how environment has effected someone's actions, but where environment does not give explanation, there is also the fact that people's brains are different, sometimes leading to extremely negative psychological issues in that person. Bringing these two points together it is very plausible to see how the chemistry of an individuals brain, coupled often times by environmental factors, can result in horrendous actions occurring. And while I appreciate that this is hard to accept, it's synonymous with blaming a lion for killing a man. Not only does this make capital punishment illogical but rehabilitation preferable.
“they still walk in health”....... how do we know? Health is not only the physical spect, it has a huge mental aspect. Larger the crime, more severe his/her mental confusion or the struggle has to be he/she can no longer see right from wrong. They have become delusional. Transformation is of course possible for all humans. They may not be ready to enter society, but they can be transformed that they can be of help to the society may be while in a restrictive environment - for the most severely affected individuals, but not kill them............just how I feel.
How does Tibetan Buddhism feel about government operated prisons for criminals and separately capital punishment for alleviating the burden on society's harmony? I don't think these things were answered
You wouldn’t be saying that if someone molested your child or murdered a loved on. I’m sorry but if you haven’t experienced that pain and knowing that their life is over but the person who committed the crime can still live in a jail with food, warmth and social activity without judgment as this man also states in other videos once we die there is no more, just memories for those left behind then I say stick these horrible people on a chair and fry them. In fact people are already taking the law into their own hands because the justice system is so messed up. Sometimes there are no other options for certain people who have committed the absolute horrendous crimes. The best punishment would be to let the offender be alone in the room with the victims family. An eye for an eye 👍
@@benji-5796 I wouldn't? Thank God it not my job to be the hateful one. There is more than one way to process emotion. I don't like how I feel when I hate. Even knowing how much hate you can carry... I have seen it in many. Punishment? It is done matter of fact. By the way, you can implant a pretty gross image into the conversation and that is fine, that is what you do. That is you, not me.
@@crweewrc1388 exactly. Lynch mob mentality. I would not be watching. I get no satisfaction out of it. I don't have a psychopathic bone in my body. Some people are borderline psychopath and there is everything in between.
Namaste Guru 🙏🏽. In this story the Buddha ordains this killer. There are so many people who do very good things and wish to be ordained also, but never will or do. Why does the killer get the blessing and not the good person who goes unseen. It seems like giving reward for demonic act. I'm not of this same belief, but with deep respect I listen to many of your lectures. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti 📿🙏🏽
One way to relook at it is are there people who only do good? We all fall under a spectrum of good and bad. We may do more good or more bad. But by the end of it people are not responsible for the evil in them, and if given a chance and the right resources there is a possibility that they can be helped to overcome the evil in them. Under different circumstances, with different genes and different upbringing, you and I could be evil and that would not be our fault. How would you want to be treated then? I would want a chance to become a decent human being.
How a Buddhist person deal with a psychopath? For example, a psychological torturer who feels pleasure knowing and seeing others suffering with his actions.
Idk what Buddhists deal with it like. What if that's how some people are built by nature? It's real sad that there will be victims. But even the criminals are not at fault for the pleasure they feel, it's their biological mechanism. In a way like a dog enjoys attacking a cat for no reason at times. This doesn't mean they don't have moral responsibility, they still do, but for that to be realised the society should first stop demonizing people with real limitations.
The death penalty doesn't have anything to do with hate imo. It's protecting the herd. Financially, morally, and sustainability. The death penalty is the sensible choice for the greater good.
How does killing someone, who has already committed the crime protect 'the herd'? The death penalty is driven by vengeance. A base emotion masquerading as morality. There is nothing 'sensible or good' about state sanctioned murder. The USA is the only western country that still has the death penalty. Take a look at the crime statistics in that country and tell me that the death penalty is protecting people or preventing violent crime. One out of seven people put to death by the state were later found to be innocent. This alone should be reason enough to stop this barbaric practice by a so called civilised nation.
If you want to protect the "herd", then create a society in which no one is oppressed and everyone find meaning in life by meeting their basic needs and community, including animals by going vegan. Until then, don't claim to be civilized.
So the solution is to fix the root of the problem, what caused this person to kill, it may have been how this person was raised or how he was treated in society. The reality is that this will not work, there are many examples why but I will mention one. A few years ago there was a 22-year-old guy in California who announced on the internet that he was going to kill some people. He was born rich, and he used to drive luxury cars to college so he said on the internet that he could not understand why blonde women in college did not like him, he also said that these women were going out with losers and that he has so much more to offer because he was rich. So he killed a bunch of people then committed suicide, so what caused him to do this? He said it clearly, he did not like the fact that blonde women did not like him, so in this case, there is only one solution according to this video the blonde women he talked to would have to like him and go out with him because this guy thought that their rejection was his main problem, he thought this is how the world has done him wrong. If he had not committed suicide then normally he would have been put on death row or given a life sentence but since he's rich he would have done only a few months in jail. So, in this case, capital punishment as a deterrent to violent crime is the only solution because you cannot force people to like whoever they don't like.
Norway implemented a system like he is describing and they now have the lowest recidivism rate in the world, at 20% ("recidivism" meaning return to criminality. Not condescending, just making clarity certain). They have a special prison for the worst of the worst, like serial killers, including one guy who murdered 2 people with a chainsaw. Chainsaw man has for years held the job of using a chainsaw to cut lumber for the prison (which requires prisoners to all pitch in because it is self-sustaining), in order to retrain his mind, and now he's considered one of the best success cases for rehabilitated inmates. That prison's recidivism rate is 17%. America's system of "make them pay, make them suffer" has a recidivism rate of 60%. The solution offered in this video was *not* for blond women to indulge his delusional thinking; it was to remove him from his environment, society and circumstances which his thoughts exist in and retrain his brain to escape the delusions his mind was trapped in.
This seems to me to be an example of how capital punishment doesn't work in some cases, and that fixing the root problem of this kid's severe mental health issues is the only thing that could have prevented such an atrocity. Capital punishment clearly didn't deter the kid from killing as he was in such a state of despair that he didn't care whether he lived or died and thus killed others and then committed suicide. Just because this kid was rich doesn't mean he grew up in a right or healthy way and learned how to live happily without needing validation or pleasure from women, which is the root of the problem here in my book. So what I think Thay suggests is that we begin by creating a society where young people learn that those things like luxury and sensual pleasures don't lead to happiness, and that there are other ways to be happy and peaceful, i.e. through the practice of mindful living. This happens through our own individual and collective practice. What Thay is suggesting would be incredibly difficult to to as a society but little by little perhaps it is possible.
I don't think Thay means that we should keep on using capital punishment while we build an idyllic just society. I think he means that for those who have grown up under conditions that did not provide their needs, we need to show them that adequate conditions are possible. In the story, as a monk he finds that all his needs are met (physical, psychological, and emotional), and he has the environment in which he can transform. If prisoners could be fed, clothed, and treated with respect, what would happen? We don't know, because we haven't tried. Big guys don't get enough to eat in prison. For many, one day is like another; the only thing that breaks the boredom is violence between prisoners or between guards and prisoners. Which happens all too often. Unfortunately, many people see the justice system's function as vengeance, and they wouldn't like that. They'd rather make the person miserable, thus more angry, than attempt true transformation, otherwise known as rehabilitation.
Peadophiles, rapist murderers, let the f*ckers be alone in a room with the victims families alone. That’ll be enough. This man wouldn’t be saying the same if someone had molested his child. Sometimes you cannot comment on things unless you have experienced the pain of what he is suggesting.
If what he said is true, then rapist, murderer, frauds etc are not at fault. It's society that made him so. What rubbish talk is this? He said death penalty is not the solution and if you put one to death, another one will appear. But with the death penalty, lesser and lesser will appear. More and more people will not be subjected to mortal harm with death penalty.
the system is creating monster....dont you see it ? Look at Norway ! Higher standard of living countries have less crimes and murder rate. If we follow your logic all countries would have the same level of evil at any moments ? What kind of logic is that ? Higher inequality brings more crime, simple as that.
I don't think society is at fault, however it doesn't really matters who are at fault anyway. Prisons aka correctional facilities are by design made to protect society against criminals by locking them up, and if possible.. rehabilitate them for a release back in to society if judged to be appropriate and doable. For the rest they are to be held there for society to be continually protected against them, and it may also be looked upon as punishment and also a deterrent for possible future criminals.
Don't judge the murderer, raper and frauder. They are full of hate and negative feelings. That's why they behave like that. If you are compassionate enough you can show them love and positive feelings what can transform the raper, murderer and frauder into a positive person. It's about helping. Practice the Dharma. Not about judging and punishing. It Will not change the person.
An excellent explanation, I’m Buddhist and I know the story behind Angulimala, he said it very correctly.
Wow, as a Christian I would say he is brilliant. Total Christ like. He has find the real deal. Wow.
Nice words
But what if transformation does not happen?
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Time for changing or tranforming our"Consuming society, other word
Consuming religion" into a humanitary-enviromental oriented
society for decreasing the criminal problem
To see yourself in another being, matter of fact all beings, it is quite difficult. Though, extremely rewarding. What a great answer to such a controversial question. 🖤
I can only hope to achieve a fraction of Thay’s wisdom and compassion. He lived through hell himself, witnessed atrocities and speaks from experience as well as goodness. Be with us in love and peace Thay, we need your compassion still. 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Beautiful! He speaks with such peace 😌🙏🏼
Thich Nhat Hanh is something special. I call Arlo Guthrie a National Treasure. He is Thay N. Hanh is gift to us all. I understand his last talk was around 2013. He continued on this year.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
I had never heard this story until today. I wish all the world could hear it right now, now that so many hate each other. thank you, again, Thay
I watched this 5 times over today. Very thankful.
Why hasnt he won the nobel peace prize??? My idol
he did, Martin Luther King Jr. nominated him. You can check out Oprah's video.
@@BelleCaliMusic He was nominated, yes, but sadly he didnt win :( Actually, no one won the award in 1967.
He was nominated by MLK but MLK somehow disqualified his nomination by announcing publicly who he nominated. So they didn’t award the prize to anyone that year. But I’m sure this doesn’t matter to TNH.
Oh he has been awarded noble peace prize long long time back as I heard.
I have always felt this but I felt ashamed for my feeling compassion for those who commit violent horrific crimes especially to children but Teacher That Hanh has allowed me to know I was sane and my inner highest knowledge was right ,My life has changes so much from listening to this beautiful monk ,his words slice through all the darkness and the light is poured through ,I will go now and read about the serial killer who tried to kill the Buddha
I don't believe such a guy exist in the world... he is another being a gift to mankind he is The Buddha.
Indeed a wise, compassionate and loving Thay. May his sangha be his continuation.
death penalty is not a penalty. a penalty must have some sort of preventive effect on the (possible) future crimes. prevention means nothing if the person is not alive anymore. so, death penalty is an act of revenge (and not of punishment). if you wanna take revenge, take it yourself. order an law is for mitigating the chaos, not reinforcing it over and over again. i can't believe it's happening. just imagine that you hanged somebody a year ago, and one year later a friend calls you only to tell you that he was innocent. how do you compensate for that? does compensation means anything after being killed by the order of law? if there is no preventive value in it, it's mere revenge. taking revenge must not be the priority (or even the responsibility) of judiciary system, especially when you cannot compensate the possible loss.
@nameless face
For the last 4 decades in Iran, we've been dealing with a brutal dictatorship which kills in the name of God. They call themselves as "true muslims", causing a new record of increased hatred towards any spiritual idea among the masses of people. Today, almost 70 percent of Iranian population are atheists. They took our money, our lands, our freedom, our lives, and even our souls. BUT STILL, I believe that American people are facing a situation which is not even comparable to Iran. Everyone knows that what's happening in Iran. Yes, Iran is a real tragedy, but at least it isn't hidden. Same things are happening in the U.S., but nobody knows! People are used to see America as a free country. And it's not! Not at all... U.S. government consists of modern mullahs without beard. They enslave the working class and it's legal! It is hidden in the plane sight. The truth is that Devil is still alive and he is breathing fire into our lives. There is no freedom in any country whatsoever. He changes his appearance, but it's the same shit. We didn't move forward. Not a fuckin centimeter. Life is a bloody treadmill.
@nameless face thank you!
I wish you a good health dear Thay. 💕
He’s so beautiful! Love him so much! Wish we all could be like him ♥️🧡💚
Just wonderful. Thank you so much.
What a great answer. I heard the story a bit different. The Budha asked Angugala ( probably spelt wrong ) to cut a branch off a tree which he did and then to reconnect it which he couldn't. The Budha was not afraid of him or death. I think the Budha was trying to prove the point by killing you achieve nothing. If this guy killed the Budha would the King have eventually killed him?
John Paul II's failed assassination saved a man driven to the point of insanity by self-radicalisation. JPII forgave Ali agca, visited him in jail, consoled and prayed for him. Retribution is both sweet and bitter, compassion is noble.
Healing is every step and every breath
The first precept already stated that we should not kill. Death penalty is no solution nor a deterrence at all.
I disagree. If someone slaughtered and rape your daughter would you want them tucked away in some nice prison cell with 3 meals a day, exercise time and social time…? Absolutely not. Monk or no monk.
@@benji-5796 the way u talk show u don’t understand dharma. Go google.
@@victortancheongwee - I don’t know what that is but what I do know is if someone murdered my family then I’d take the law into my own hands. Here in the UK it’s happening a lot this way now. People are sick of not seeing justice. My opinion and that which is supported by many others too! Is it the right opinion? No, but there are no heavenly gates or flames of hell to contend with after life so do what you think is right.
His rapid blinking actually indicates deep thought.
Downloading wisdom
Wisdom and Compassion
I think his words are wise in that the karma you would receive for taking a life whether it is human animal or insect. All life is sacred.
Tell that to the miniscule ant you stepped on as a kid
@@theundertaker.2237 I have an ant nest and mosquito problem every summer along with other pests I choose not to live with
While there are many people who fit with this ideal of rehabilitation, there are lines crossed that are so extreme that they defy any harm that could have produced it. There are acts so cruel that there is nothing equivalent that could have happened to the person to explain it as they still walk in health to make the choice to harm. I don't know the answer because there is a spiritual paradox in response to such cruelty. It does not feel like love to forgive, it does not feel like love to be passive, it only feels like love to hate and this is the agonizing paradox. I am young in my spiritual practice, but i feel cruelty should be reflected back spiritually onto the perpetrator to instill comprehension. There can be no change of heart without comprehension. This is a missing piece, and I believe that ultimately the universe instills into each perpetrator complete, visceral comprehension of their cruelty from the perspective of those they have harmed. There may be lines that prohibit returning on the journey to enlightenment. I feel that once that comprehension is reflected back, the individual makes the choice towards enlightenment or permanent annihilation from all existence. The judgment on their existence is inherent in the context and extremity of their violation.
Thanks for the novel
I personally prefer the Bhagavad Gita for the very same reason. I like the Buddhist philosophy too, but the Gita just feels that much more realistic.
Your comment definitely makes me think. I think there is a few different foundations that are required in order to see truth in Thich Nhat Hanh's answer.
First what I think is important is the idea of "thoughts think thoughts" instead of "I think thoughts". When you appreciate that our conscious mind (where
we identify ourselves as residing) does not bring thoughts into existence, but rather is "passed" thoughts from other unconscious parts of the brain,
you begin to realise that we have little to no control over what thoughts enter your consciousness.
Secondly, a point that addresses what you said about certain acts being so cruel there is no environment that exists that could lead a person to commit
such an act, we have to consider the concept of nature vs nurture. That is, one does not only have to consider how environment has effected someone's
actions, but where environment does not give explanation, there is also the fact that people's brains are different, sometimes leading to extremely
negative psychological issues in that person.
Bringing these two points together it is very plausible to see how the chemistry of an individuals brain, coupled often times by environmental factors,
can result in horrendous actions occurring. And while I appreciate that this is hard to accept, it's synonymous with blaming a lion for killing a man.
Not only does this make capital punishment illogical but rehabilitation preferable.
“they still walk in health”....... how do we know? Health is not only the physical spect, it has a huge mental aspect. Larger the crime, more severe his/her mental confusion or the struggle has to be he/she can no longer see right from wrong. They have become delusional. Transformation is of course possible for all humans. They may not be ready to enter society, but they can be transformed that they can be of help to the society may be while in a restrictive environment - for the most severely affected individuals, but not kill them............just how I feel.
💞 Wow...😇I am so moved...💞
Thank You Thay ✨
Can you transform poison ivy to a flower?
Are you the same person you were 2 years ago?
@ I am as I’ve always been. I am true to myself. Happy and content. No reason to want more. Thanks for your concern
I Love his Wisdom 💓🙏
How does Tibetan Buddhism feel about government operated prisons for criminals and separately capital punishment for alleviating the burden on society's harmony? I don't think these things were answered
I cringe when people talk about wishing pain or death on anyone.
Exactly! Even when serial killers get executed, when people cheer, it's like the killer's hatred is passed on into all these people.
You wouldn’t be saying that if someone molested your child or murdered a loved on. I’m sorry but if you haven’t experienced that pain and knowing that their life is over but the person who committed the crime can still live in a jail with food, warmth and social activity without judgment as this man also states in other videos once we die there is no more, just memories for those left behind then I say stick these horrible people on a chair and fry them. In fact people are already taking the law into their own hands because the justice system is so messed up. Sometimes there are no other options for certain people who have committed the absolute horrendous crimes. The best punishment would be to let the offender be alone in the room with the victims family. An eye for an eye 👍
@@benji-5796 I wouldn't? Thank God it not my job to be the hateful one. There is more than one way to process emotion. I don't like how I feel when I hate. Even knowing how much hate you can carry... I have seen it in many. Punishment? It is done matter of fact. By the way, you can implant a pretty gross image into the conversation and that is fine, that is what you do. That is you, not me.
@@crweewrc1388 exactly. Lynch mob mentality. I would not be watching. I get no satisfaction out of it. I don't have a psychopathic bone in my body. Some people are borderline psychopath and there is everything in between.
Thank you!
No one suggested that kid spot out his gum before he asked a question lolol
This is the place of Zen, no one cares about such superficial things and meaningless rules :D
He is chewing mindfully😊, there is no crime about it
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 Oh God :P! Looks like you have no idea on how strict the etiquette rules are in a place of Zen
The kid may be so nervous that he needs the gum to function. If it is gum - we don't know. Maybe just nervous mouth movements. He did fine.
how can one help caption this?
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Namaste Guru 🙏🏽. In this story the Buddha ordains this killer. There are so many people who do very good things and wish to be ordained also, but never will or do. Why does the killer get the blessing and not the good person who goes unseen. It seems like giving reward for demonic act. I'm not of this same belief, but with deep respect I listen to many of your lectures. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti 📿🙏🏽
One way to relook at it is are there people who only do good? We all fall under a spectrum of good and bad. We may do more good or more bad. But by the end of it people are not responsible for the evil in them, and if given a chance and the right resources there is a possibility that they can be helped to overcome the evil in them. Under different circumstances, with different genes and different upbringing, you and I could be evil and that would not be our fault. How would you want to be treated then? I would want a chance to become a decent human being.
This is not to say that anybody's suffering should have happened, it shouldn't have. May all sentient being be granted liberation and peace 🙏
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How a Buddhist person deal with a psychopath? For example, a psychological torturer who feels pleasure knowing and seeing others suffering with his actions.
Idk what Buddhists deal with it like. What if that's how some people are built by nature? It's real sad that there will be victims. But even the criminals are not at fault for the pleasure they feel, it's their biological mechanism. In a way like a dog enjoys attacking a cat for no reason at times. This doesn't mean they don't have moral responsibility, they still do, but for that to be realised the society should first stop demonizing people with real limitations.
They could become a dentist or a surgeon and help people ironically lol
He is so funny
The death penalty doesn't have anything to do with hate imo. It's protecting the herd. Financially, morally, and sustainability. The death penalty is the sensible choice for the greater good.
How does killing someone, who has already committed the crime protect 'the herd'? The death penalty is driven by vengeance. A base emotion masquerading as morality. There is nothing 'sensible or good' about state sanctioned murder. The USA is the only western country that still has the death penalty. Take a look at the crime statistics in that country and tell me that the death penalty is protecting people or preventing violent crime. One out of seven people put to death by the state were later found to be innocent. This alone should be reason enough to stop this barbaric practice by a so called civilised nation.
If you want to protect the "herd", then create a society in which no one is oppressed and everyone find meaning in life by meeting their basic needs and community, including animals by going vegan. Until then, don't claim to be civilized.
@@AnthonyMonaghan To remove psychopathic/antisocial genes from the gene pool.
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 Ted Bundy was a good looking white man from a good family. he had bad genes though. You can't 'enlighten' a serial killer.
OMAR It’s not about genes
So the solution is to fix the root of the problem, what caused this person to kill, it may have been how this person was raised or how he was treated in society. The reality is that this will not work, there are many examples why but I will mention one. A few years ago there was a 22-year-old guy in California who announced on the internet that he was going to kill some people. He was born rich, and he used to drive luxury cars to college so he said on the internet that he could not understand why blonde women in college did not like him, he also said that these women were going out with losers and that he has so much more to offer because he was rich. So he killed a bunch of people then committed suicide, so what caused him to do this? He said it clearly, he did not like the fact that blonde women did not like him, so in this case, there is only one solution according to this video the blonde women he talked to would have to like him and go out with him because this guy thought that their rejection was his main problem, he thought this is how the world has done him wrong. If he had not committed suicide then normally he would have been put on death row or given a life sentence but since he's rich he would have done only a few months in jail. So, in this case, capital punishment as a deterrent to violent crime is the only solution because you cannot force people to like whoever they don't like.
Norway implemented a system like he is describing and they now have the lowest recidivism rate in the world, at 20% ("recidivism" meaning return to criminality. Not condescending, just making clarity certain). They have a special prison for the worst of the worst, like serial killers, including one guy who murdered 2 people with a chainsaw.
Chainsaw man has for years held the job of using a chainsaw to cut lumber for the prison (which requires prisoners to all pitch in because it is self-sustaining), in order to retrain his mind, and now he's considered one of the best success cases for rehabilitated inmates.
That prison's recidivism rate is 17%.
America's system of "make them pay, make them suffer" has a recidivism rate of 60%.
The solution offered in this video was *not* for blond women to indulge his delusional thinking; it was to remove him from his environment, society and circumstances which his thoughts exist in and retrain his brain to escape the delusions his mind was trapped in.
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This seems to me to be an example of how capital punishment doesn't work in some cases, and that fixing the root problem of this kid's severe mental health issues is the only thing that could have prevented such an atrocity. Capital punishment clearly didn't deter the kid from killing as he was in such a state of despair that he didn't care whether he lived or died and thus killed others and then committed suicide. Just because this kid was rich doesn't mean he grew up in a right or healthy way and learned how to live happily without needing validation or pleasure from women, which is the root of the problem here in my book.
So what I think Thay suggests is that we begin by creating a society where young people learn that those things like luxury and sensual pleasures don't lead to happiness, and that there are other ways to be happy and peaceful, i.e. through the practice of mindful living. This happens through our own individual and collective practice. What Thay is suggesting would be incredibly difficult to to as a society but little by little perhaps it is possible.
I don't think Thay means that we should keep on using capital punishment while we build an idyllic just society. I think he means that for those who have grown up under conditions that did not provide their needs, we need to show them that adequate conditions are possible. In the story, as a monk he finds that all his needs are met (physical, psychological, and emotional), and he has the environment in which he can transform.
If prisoners could be fed, clothed, and treated with respect, what would happen? We don't know, because we haven't tried. Big guys don't get enough to eat in prison. For many, one day is like another; the only thing that breaks the boredom is violence between prisoners or between guards and prisoners. Which happens all too often.
Unfortunately, many people see the justice system's function as vengeance, and they wouldn't like that. They'd rather make the person miserable, thus more angry, than attempt true transformation, otherwise known as rehabilitation.
Peadophiles, rapist murderers, let the f*ckers be alone in a room with the victims families alone. That’ll be enough. This man wouldn’t be saying the same if someone had molested his child. Sometimes you cannot comment on things unless you have experienced the pain of what he is suggesting.
If what he said is true, then rapist, murderer, frauds etc are not at fault. It's society that made him so. What rubbish talk is this? He said death penalty is not the solution and if you put one to death, another one will appear. But with the death penalty, lesser and lesser will appear. More and more people will not be subjected to mortal harm with death penalty.
the system is creating monster....dont you see it ? Look at Norway ! Higher standard of living countries have less crimes and murder rate. If we follow your logic all countries would have the same level of evil at any moments ? What kind of logic is that ? Higher inequality brings more crime, simple as that.
your very close minded.
I don't think society is at fault, however it doesn't really matters who are at fault anyway. Prisons aka correctional facilities are by design made to protect society against criminals by locking them up, and if possible.. rehabilitate them for a release back in to society if judged to be appropriate and doable. For the rest they are to be held there for society to be continually protected against them, and it may also be looked upon as punishment and also a deterrent for possible future criminals.
Don't judge the murderer, raper and frauder. They are full of hate and negative feelings. That's why they behave like that. If you are compassionate enough you can show them love and positive feelings what can transform the raper, murderer and frauder into a positive person. It's about helping. Practice the Dharma. Not about judging and punishing. It Will not change the person.
anon as I said it's a mixture
Why kiling burma People from boda.