Wood Lane, the Station that can't be Mapped | Hidden London Hangouts (S04E07)

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  • @Hannahtheredhead2454
    @Hannahtheredhead2454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I don’t know what you dreamed of on those platforms years ago, but I am nothing but grateful that your path led you here to us, Alex. ❤️

    • @alexgrundon2346
      @alexgrundon2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do it for people like you. Pure gold humans x

  • @heckelphon
    @heckelphon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if anyone is still watching out for comments on this thread, and particularly for the identity of characters in the poster for the Advertising Exhibition in 1920?
    It seems that, perhaps to avoid any claims of copyright, a number of the characters may have been subtly reimagined with some aspects of colour and pattern in clothing and accessories retained, but not precisely matching their parallel depiction in the adverts. In a way the Johnny Walker gent and the Kodak girl are the most direct visual "quotes". But I believe that Vim as "My Vimmy" is there: the frankly bilious colour of the vim canister as a stove-pipe hat is imitated, and what was normally a vast polka-dot scarf has been turned into a dress! Elsewhere a depiction in red cardinal's robes for what is supposed to be the Pope (rhymes with "soap") in Pears Soap advert is included, with the face very similar, but deliberately from the other side than in the advert. The old sea dog in oilskins is not I believe Fisherman's Friends, as someone suggested, but a full body stylisation from one of the many Life Buoy Soap adverts, where typically you see only head and shoulders. The face is identical, but whereas in the normal adverts the seaman is wearing a lifejacket, he has been redrawn with full length waterproofs. That's what I mean about subtle reimagining. The Michelin Man (Bibendum) frequently attends roadside tyre emergencies in contemporary adverts, and smokes a cigar while a grateful driver extracts a replacement tyre from his belly. The gentleman being confronted by Bibendum looks very reminiscent of the drawings of Leslie Ward, the caricaturist "Spy", who died in 1922, which may mean that image is from a magazine rather than a poster. "Nipper" the dog depicted listening to "His Master's Voice" did not have black patches, so if that is him in the foreground, then those patches could be another ploy to dodge any accusation of direct plagiarism.
    I believe it may take a long trawl through advertising and images of the decade prior to the exhibition (and some images which may have survived into the much more stylised and vibrant drawing of 1920s advertising) to try to tie down what is distinctive and may be echoed in the poster, but it could be a very worthwhile exercise. I am intrigued by the very angular lady in the far distance who looks a bit like a gingerbread cutout.
    But then you may already by now have made complete identification.

    • @NJPurling
      @NJPurling 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The two bys front, centre of the poster I believe are hunting down their next sniff of Bisto Gravy.
      The unkempt man talking to Johnny Walker is the Pear's Soap man.
      I don't know what product the Cardinal in his red robes represents. He has me thinking of the evil Cardinal from The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas.

  • @jacksugden8190
    @jacksugden8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another excellent video team, Siddy looked smashing as ever, I remember the old original Central line depot at White City, the curved platform and Eastbound platform that’s now a to/from the new depot, I also remember the old station buildings in Wood Lane by the bridge, such a shame it’s all been swept away.

    • @mjgoodhew4868
      @mjgoodhew4868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Still a fragment remains. If they'd shown a track walk towards the new white city depot you'd have seen it. I have photos having walked that section of track

  • @louminati4318
    @louminati4318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad was a train driver based at White City. I spent half my childhood upstairs at White City tube station which had a fully functioning pub.

  • @stewartskardon7376
    @stewartskardon7376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yet another superb episode from the Fab Four. The greyhound poster comments had me in stitches. The mosaic roundel is a pure work of art and it’s so good to see one surviving in the new station. Thanks to you all once again for keeping us entertained during and post lockdowns. I hope that Hidden London Hangouts will continue for a long time to come.

  • @marksinthehouse1968
    @marksinthehouse1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hammersmith/Shepard’s bush my area seen it come up and amazed what’s going on there now lived at the back of Tv centre my uncle worked there really enjoying these videos and of the museums work ,siddy I’m a big fan 😘,thanks team

  • @markellis6413
    @markellis6413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great episode - loved those posters. Central Line station I knew not a lot about - great to see those photos. Fabulous!

  • @Roblilley999
    @Roblilley999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, what another interesting video. Used Wood Lane a lot visiting BbC TV centre. Also remember building the latest station back mid 2000s

  • @keithellis5163
    @keithellis5163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazed nobody picked up on the "You've got Wood" line...... ;-) Great informative Vid guys.

  • @stasiabotwright
    @stasiabotwright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im so glad that the red overpainted signage from Wood Lane stn was rescued and has survived in the ltm depot. I used to walk past that station to in the 80s and 90s…

  • @tobiaswoodcock
    @tobiaswoodcock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the chap in the redjacket and white trousers ... was that Johnnie Walker ( the whiskey not the DJ) &and the chap in the flowing red gown - Tolly Cobold Cardinal ale?

  • @ianjohnson2198
    @ianjohnson2198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another really great episode guys. Thanks so much. As a big movie fan I love the fact that the old CLR power station building was used in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Just wondering, have you ever considered a episode on what happens on the network in the early hours when the trains stop running. It’d be interesting to see what goes on with all the hardworking cleaning and maintenance staff.

  • @ceanothus_bluemoon
    @ceanothus_bluemoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Delighted to see this pop up after a hard day digging and emptying containers ready for bulbs...and thank you Alex for reading out my comment on the new NL extension vid! The mosaic was just beautifully done. So glad that was saved.

  • @jacksugden8190
    @jacksugden8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Going to be another gem 💎

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On leaving White City eastbound towards Shepherd's Bush, we pass through one of the old Wood Lane Central Line platforms, complete with old signage (with interlaced "W") and period advert posters from the time of closure still extant. On a railtour using the red "Cravens" unit in 2000, they let us out on the platform for a little wander around..

  • @davestyx1642
    @davestyx1642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another very insightful episode, Fab 4, with some very interesting photos of the old stations. It’s way, way back in my childhood that I was last in the area, so have no recollection of it or the old stations. But you managed to unravel it and bring it alive and made it fascinating. The posters were an added bonus and did I see Nipper, the HMV dog in the mystery characters poster? And was the lady with the spinning top for a skirt representing Chad Valley? It will be interesting to see what other viewers come up with. Well done team, keep up the good work!

  • @stuartbusdriver2038
    @stuartbusdriver2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great one from the fab4 and Alex you have brought so much love and enthusiasm along with Chris, Siddy and Laura to us over the last year so thank you for all your great work, alright geezer so I had a bad day yesterday at work but i knew that 6pm i would be able to forget all about the day and enjoy this episode and once again i feel much better so thank you guys until next week

  • @mrcogginsgarage7062
    @mrcogginsgarage7062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alex if ever a shot in the arm was more beautifully delivered I've not seen it Siddy is a star ,keep up the great work
    Oh and by the way in the poster of the advertising exhibition the chap in the white breeches and red coat who looks like he's off hunting is not Bonds of London but Johnie Walker not the DJ on Radio 2 but the Scotch Whisky brand thanks all for a cracking episode tonight keep your chins up stay safe and I will see you all next week
    Yours Coggins.

  • @jimdarrell441
    @jimdarrell441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job as usual. My favourite thing to do on a Saturday!

  • @Simont6.0
    @Simont6.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to work for LUL in the 80s and 90s as was based at 10A Wood Lane....which has been consumed by the Westfield. I used to walk past the old Wood Lane station from White City.....past the old depot...and past London Transport Railway Training Centre to 10A Wood Lane itself. On goodle maps towards the Shepherds Bush end of Wood Lane the shopping centre is built around a small building. 10a Wood Lane was behind that. I used to work for the electrical power dept. Amazing to see how much it has changed!

  • @pdunderhill
    @pdunderhill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Blue Peter Garden backed onto the Japanese Garden which is still a Public Park, the only other relic of the Anglo French exhibition is on the left of the exterior Wall of Studio 1, the large wall that said BBC Television Centre. There are still a couple of original Square yards of tiling on the floor.

    • @stasiabotwright
      @stasiabotwright 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to stand on the fence at the back of the childrens park in Hammersmith Park/BBC park, to look into the blue Peter Garden… saw them filming a gee times. Much smaller than on the telly.

  • @kevinreed9232
    @kevinreed9232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Episode well presented by you four very nice people, thank you.

  • @daveys
    @daveys ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember that red overpainted version at 16:10 from when I lived round the corner from there in 1993/4-ish. The old station opposite the BBC shown at 24:07 was a properly dingy location, not at all like the newer stations that seem to be springing up everywhere in Shep.

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oswald Lawrence's "Mind The Gap" announcement was used briefly on the Central Line platforms at Bank in the mid-80's (and the Bakerloo platforms at Waterloo)

  • @roychapman3656
    @roychapman3656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1920's Advertising Exhibition Poster: Girl & Boy pointing I think is for Clarke's Shoes "They have a Long Way to Go' I seem to remember the poster at Holloway Road Tube Station back in the late 1940's!
    I'm working on the rest of the picture. I guess one is for Cherry Blossom Shoe polish and maybe one is Punch Magazine?? Fishermen's Friend is there.

  • @christinet5891
    @christinet5891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roger Taylor Chris, what happened to the ornate bridge built for the Franco - British Exhibition shown in the early views of Wood Lane?

  • @mrbma
    @mrbma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good evening Mr Grundon and team. Another excellent episode sir !!!
    Well put togther and presented. Made clear the complex history of this area !!!
    Idea / suggestion : Anything of interest in the networks' viaducts, such as Dollis Brook or Arnos Grove ???

  • @Lynxfan2
    @Lynxfan2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello it was Greenford that had the last remaining wooden escalator, which unusually went UP from street level to the platforms - remember that there are three platforms at Greenford with the centre platform being two carriages long for the West Ealing - Greenford Branch Line (trains no longer run from or to London Paddington). I have most recently taken photographs of Bakerloo line 72 Tube Stock, Jubilee line 96 Tube Stock and Piccadilly line 73 Tube Stock all with the Barman seat moquette (I have already uploaded Central line photos in 2012)! I have uploaded them onto my Flickr photographic website, Peter Skuce, under LONDON UNDERGROUND on page 4. Yes I have ridden the Kennington Loop and took photos of the original interiors of the 1995 Tube Stock.
    Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire.

  • @cfribbins
    @cfribbins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I travel/travelled to Sheperds Bush for QPR for many decades (1968) without knowing much of this history. The Wood Lane poster dog would have been greyhound racing at the White City Stadium just up the road (hence links to Olympics and a Football World Cup 1966 venue).

  • @gromet9994
    @gromet9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great episode, came to your channel after watching Siddy's "Secrets of..." absolutely brilliant btw. Brings back memories of when I lived in the UK, left in 89 for sunnier climate - Brisbane Oz (No tube trains here - yet). Look forward to seeing more.

  • @daveharris7224
    @daveharris7224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's the wrong side of London for me, so have never been through the current station. I will of course be hoping to learn all about this from the famous four!

  • @louminati4318
    @louminati4318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We used to beak in to the old Wood Lane station in the 80s.

  • @starpoint271
    @starpoint271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I worked on the comms design for Westfield...I was under the impression that the depot is still there in the basement of the shopping centre.....

  • @cliffordhurst2564
    @cliffordhurst2564 ปีที่แล้ว

    The greyhound/Underground logo picture reminded me that in conjunction with the😮1908
    Franco-British Exhibition, the White City Stadium was built which hosted the 1908 Olympic Games and later became the White City Greyhound Racetrack.

  • @chrislodzinski9056
    @chrislodzinski9056 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was brought up in Shepherds Bush, and I always imagined that the old entrance to the Central line that you showed, was actually the old entrance to Wood Lane (Met). One of the other photographs that you showed appeared to be taken on the TV Centre side of Wood Lane, so, does that mean that the platforms of Wood Lane (Met) were built across Wood Lane?

  • @adriangiddins6065
    @adriangiddins6065 ปีที่แล้ว

    An observation.... the tracks shown in the depot picture have no fourth rail. I remember my father telling me they only had the centre juice rail (I'm very old !) when was the power system changed and was it different on all the other lines ?

  • @mjgoodhew4868
    @mjgoodhew4868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you had done a track walk towards the replacement white city depot you'd have seen a fragment of Wood Lane remains

  • @unittaskforce
    @unittaskforce 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the history around that station and it’s predecessors. As always you guys make it interesting.😀👍

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch ปีที่แล้ว

    The photos at (24:00), (25:00) and (30:00) also show a heavily reinforced station ceiling. This was the unbelievable nowadays covered walkway to the White City Exhibition Centre all the way from Shepherd's Bush.
    I have many fond memories of going to the scrap yards where the John Lewis store at Westfield shopping centre is now. Through the smoke of the tyre fires loomed what looked like a seaside pier. I was always fascinated by the walkway's huge trellised construction towering above it all.
    There's so so much to discover in the history of this area: from the depôt itself, through the completely removed LSWR/District line route from Addison Road to Hammersmith Grove Road, likewise the link from Latimer Road to the (Overground now) Shepherd's Bush station and the (mentioned below) link to the GWR mainline with the sidings for the Dairy.
    Seek and ye shall find!

  • @danielscott524
    @danielscott524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also - the joy of loops: Kensington, Embankment and now Wood Lane

  • @jennythescouser
    @jennythescouser ปีที่แล้ว

    There's an episode of the 70s TV show 'The Tomorrow People' where they actually filmed some of the actors walking along the Wood Lane curved plarform.

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Greenford was the last station with a wooden escalator in service, that and Alperton at one time were the only two stations with "up" escalators to the trains, though Alperton's have long been decommissioned. Greenford now has a metal escalator ascending to the platforms, the other shaft now contains an incline lift.

  • @MH-sw9fy
    @MH-sw9fy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Recon that the Earls court exhibition centre entrance to the underground had the last wooden escalator including uplighters

    • @stewartskardon7376
      @stewartskardon7376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seem to recall seeing that there is a whole area that used to lead to the now closed exhibition centre with a long corridor and the escalators that you mention M H. I’m hoping that this station is on the list that the team will cover.

  • @sarahstrong7174
    @sarahstrong7174 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou for sharing.

  • @christopherwright4573
    @christopherwright4573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ​there is still some of the original Wood Lane CLR station left but you can only access it from the tracks

  • @mozdickson
    @mozdickson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you YT ALGORITHM- very clever use of Zoom or what not. Very a la covide. That resituated mosaic --- wow, well done whoever!

    • @alexgrundon2346
      @alexgrundon2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phew! Was an exhausting job explaining these mad stations! Viaducts… nice thought!

  • @richjulian1880
    @richjulian1880 ปีที่แล้ว

    When developing the signage scheme for this station, I used 'Wood Lane' in the roundels and on the fascia since there was no other name at that stage. I was told by the Project that it'd be 'White City East', or 'Shepherd's Bush North' etc.....but I kept the name in the design. Eventually, it was adopted, in the absence of any other decision, so I like to think I had a hand in naming it

  • @martingame3726
    @martingame3726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The old power station is where "Who Framed Rodger Rabbit" was filmed.

  • @ruthbrierley1798
    @ruthbrierley1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the little dog in the poster from 'His Master's Voice'?

  • @edbridges1164
    @edbridges1164 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think dog on the Platform be for "His Masters Voice"? Or as it is these days "HMV"

  • @michaelmiller641
    @michaelmiller641 ปีที่แล้ว

    I figured that the only way of making any sense of the layout of the central line wood lane station of about 1920, would be to actually make a scale model of it. And throw in some central London railway rolling stock, of course!

  • @kevdenn
    @kevdenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does you have any history or photos of the old railway coal yard that was on the site of the 1908 exhibition behind wood lane station, now the Westfield site.. I lived nearby and remember playing on the coal trains and hearing the clanking of the wagons being shunted into various tracks there.

  • @driverdoozer
    @driverdoozer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very sneeky KYTV/Radio Active reference there.

  • @srfurley
    @srfurley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You didn’t show the inside of the old CLR Power station. The part used by buses is the part furthest from the bus station. The public are not allowed inside, but it is possible to look in. It still has the green tiles as seen in ‘Who Framed Roger Rabbit’ but I don’t know if these are original or reproductions.
    The other side, the part facing the bus station, is closed up and it’s not possible to see inside, but I think this may now be used as a substation; can anybody confirm this?

  • @MrMakeDo
    @MrMakeDo ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are the Bisto Kids at the centre front. The HMV dog. The Guinness moon face.

  • @dianekivi5349
    @dianekivi5349 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew when @ Wood Lane, that the standards of the humour 'wood go rock bottom'!

  • @GuyChapman
    @GuyChapman ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife wants to know where Soddy got the skirt with pockets. Pockets!

  • @paulgiffen6836
    @paulgiffen6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DORSETGUY1) Hi team another fantastic episode, such a shame the the exhibition building and station are all gone. i did see the derelict station front when passing on a bus a couple of times. I wish i was interested in the underground then as i am now, i would have got many photos that i would not be able to get now. Those posters in the museum are amazing ! THANK YOU TEAM 💖💖

  • @christopherwright4573
    @christopherwright4573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greenford last wooden escalator and a station worth a historical visit the way it was linked to the old GWR the tunnel is still there

  • @trevorwilliams7279
    @trevorwilliams7279 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandad was on the station when they closed down the station in 1950 they strip it down and I've been on the old platform when I worked on the tracks before the closed down the old depot in 2003 like time stood still

  • @frenchfriar
    @frenchfriar ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it's a year later, but the boy and girl in front are the Campbell Soup kids, and I think the dog in the foreground more ght be the RCA Victor dog "his master's voice". Don't recognize any more, I'm afraid.

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch ปีที่แล้ว

    39:16 The roundel is more believable when you think that it's actually showing the head of the hound and the mask that they all wear when racing.
    As for the well placed monogram, despite the fact that the dog's tail is up, it'll be because it's being depicted haring round the race track and not because it's about to produce some err, leavings. If both were the case, I'd argue that anything that came out of such a scampering greyhound would be quite a way off canvas to the right.

  • @roychapman3656
    @roychapman3656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Michelin Man is advertising the Bidendum Restaurant. I may be wrong about the Cherry Blossom character and also the Clarkes shoes children? (D'oh).

  • @sarahstrong7174
    @sarahstrong7174 ปีที่แล้ว

    All that teak had purpose. It is very fire resistant.

  • @jimhallinsn1023
    @jimhallinsn1023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let me think, Johnny Walker Whiskey, The Bisto Kids, can't think of anymore at mo.

  • @jamesconner8275
    @jamesconner8275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Characters in the picture - Johnny Walker, Cardinal Wolsey?

  • @mozdickson
    @mozdickson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johnny Walker! Whiskey

  • @london52uk
    @london52uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the board for hammersmith is misleading as passengers cannot go straight to Victoria, etc in those days as you have to change at Hammersmith, the other destinations are correct

  • @sarahstrong7174
    @sarahstrong7174 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the guy with the red jacket Tom Smith of the christmas crackers?

  • @colt1954
    @colt1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cardinal Wolseley in Red?

  • @paulhealy2557
    @paulhealy2557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The White City name doesn’t make sense now all the buildings from the exhibition are gone

    • @stasiabotwright
      @stasiabotwright 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now the only reference is the large housing estate around the corner, which has streets and blocks named after ‘countries in the commonwealth’ Australia Way, Canada Way, etc

  • @observer127
    @observer127 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you some clarity to everyone's confusion, Geoff Marshall did a video with illustration about Shepherd's Bush but includes Wood Lane and White City:
    th-cam.com/video/Lphpv2q53u4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YkS4kYrodUsDYrhL

  • @lmj9517
    @lmj9517 ปีที่แล้ว

    wood lane = Westfield london? westfield Square?

  • @CarlyStone
    @CarlyStone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You ain't half messed this video up

  • @garypoland8586
    @garypoland8586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great if you want so-called 'personalities' bantering, not so good if you want to find stuff out. Would there be any facts eventually? I couldn't be bothered to wait and find out.