I remember seeing this keyboard in some music videos and being the synth junkie I am, I always wanted one. Still do, but just don't have the money for one. I also fell in love with the Polymoog 203A and the Roland Juno 60.
Nice run through...thanks. Have always loved the Prophet 5, and am happy to at least have the Prophet 6 to somewhat appease the old gear lust. Cheers...
Hey Derek would love to see you talk about patch building on the Prophet. I saved up for the Prophet 6 desktop, but am new to patch building, so would love a tutorial.
Some people critisize the prophhet 5 for looking as a forniture. Other has the pro 5 as. a forniture in theire livingroom. Those people are wrong. This synthesizer has a very original design in wood. Only the control panel is made of siiicon or some type of hard plastik. This instrument does not only sound good, it looks also beatyful in this design of wood.
THIEF. Please send me your e-mailadress(answering this message on this video). Then I will give you details for this Prophet 5(that is in very good conditions) and the price I can offer.
I think sequential wanted the P5 to look like a polyphonic version of the Minimoog. The original SSM filter also sounded quite a bit like the Moog ladder filter in my opinion. Great Synth!
The reason why the VCF control is so smooth is that the control voltage from the pot is directly connected to the filter modules. No analog to digital and digital to analog converter in the signal. Greetz Oliver
There actually is an ADC and a DAC in between the knob and the VCF. The microcontroller stores all the knob info from the ADC in memory and then uses the DACs to send out the control voltages.
The POT data is converted in 7-bit accuracy. No zipper noise like the 5-bit p600. You know when you here zipper noise that your good money didn't get wasted on expensive RAM chips.
Goddamn. Memoreis of Leo’s Music onTelegraph in Oakland, c. 1982 . . . trying out string synbths, keyboards galore . . . with no hope of ever having the money to get them . . . but just being transported into other multiverses without drugs. And the Prophet . . . the GRANDADDY OF THEM ALL. *praise be to GAWD, and this be His PROPHET . . . FIVE*
I'm selling a prophet 5 rev. 1 from 1980. The reason for selling it is that i have two of them and would like to invest in another analog synth. I was thinking about a prophet 6 or and ob 6. But those synth 's don't have that sick sound as the P5. I have already the Prophet 8. This synth sounds better than those new actual DSI instruments. Maybe I will look for an old Oberheim 4 voice synth.
New synths versus old synths versus new car´s versus old cars. In techincal term the new one´s mayne better, but i like to drive the car. Not that the car drives me. And the same goes for synths to. I like to play and fiddle around. I like a car to be a car and not an mac on wheel. I like a synth to be a synth and not litte bit of every thing. That´s why i think moore and moore people tends to look back at the old stuff. Not that it is better in techincal terms, but it let you be the master of the car rather that the car is the master over you. And the same goes for the synths,
@04.02 i feel your face right there, that sound is killer! Is it two oscillators saws unison/detuned with a pitch env on one of them?? Been trying to emulate that sound in the software realm for ages. One favourite in particular is Jane Child - Don't wanna fall in love. I've been doing some decent brasses but not like that. That sounds so 80's. Mine does too but it's not the "right" sound still, any insight Derek? Any software to recommend?
Almost everything on Jane Child's record is sampling or FM. Personally I don't think I heard any analog at all.You can probably get the brasses you want with an emulation of a Yamaha DX-7, DX-21, or any 4- or 6-operator FM synth. Much brighter than analog filters.
Ultra Def and Puny Pop - I am cringing by your comments! I'm guessing you're very young, because any adult could adopt logic and work that playing guitar is very technical and has many different approaches to achieving many different outcomes - flamenco,, blues, rock, funk ect. Many dedicate their lives to one particular genre. The level and commitment to becoming a great guitarist is a mammoth task. I've played guitar for over 20 years and appreciate how difficult that goal is. I own a Moog Grandmother and Mother 32, yet, If I had the choice of seeing Jose Gonzalez Live (MUSICIAN) or a live synth (GROUP), I'd take the one with substance and meaning, not some twat with a synth that makes silly noises. True story
Of all the poly synths I have, I like the P5 most. I like it better than the J8. Don't know about the OB-X yet. Don't bother buying any of the new Ps, they just don't compare.
@@jackcimino8822 analog hardware always sounds better.... you need to be in one room with them with a good amp and speakers and then you'll know. They don't sound in real life how they sound on TH-cam. Software synths do sound in real life like they sound on TH-cam. Boring.
It's literally the same comparing sitting at a grand piano to sitting on your iPad playing an app. Gee I wonder which is better? Not even a midi keyboard connected to a computer vst is anything close.
I actually own Level 42's Pro 5. How odd. It's a hell of a machine but does anyone know-apart from leaving it on for hours - how I can keep the blood thing in tune? Arrrgh!
beautifull machine, sounds super beautifull too, i think banks use them a lot...., super cool, i like more the old staff...., you need to b better for play them.....
Ulrik RH yes it's great isn't. its powerful. I used to own many Synths. but why have so many when you can have what you really love and milk the crap out of it. what I've kept and own is, korg770, prophet 5, pro one, juno 60 and Jupiter 4. the jp4 and korg 770 are extremely electrical
I sold some of my synthesizers to, but have kept my two prophet 5(one for ale), my Juno 60, Korg Poly 800, Kawai 100f mono synth, Prophet 8 and of course my Roland JP4. Before that, I had too many synth´s also. Kept the best of all.
Ulrik RH we are in a similar vein. those are great Synths. yeah I've allowed ten years of my life ruled thinking that the more the merrier but it isn't true. the best sounding is what we've switched towards. there's only so many hours in a day why not spend each moment with what's really worth it. I'd almost feel i would losing a part of me of I dropped any of these. but...I honestly love the prophet the most. even though the jp4 is so wildly electrical And warm. what rev prophets do you own? I always thought the juno 60 sounded better than a jp8 though they have similarities. I personally can't seem to really"love" the sound of obxa ob8. between those and the prophet, I chose the prophet. now with all this said.... I'm considering saving for the prophet 10. it's a beast with a built in sequencer. that's heaven.
I have a JP8, an OB-Xa, and a Prophet-5. Each of them have their advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer the sound of the Prophet-5 over them all because it is warm, direct (as in your face), and very ballsy. The P5 has great sounding oscillators, awesome filters, and the snappiest ADSR's I've ever heard on a vintage polysynth. I also like the way the Polymod section is laid out!. I also think the P5 has the best Oscillator sync sound that I've ever heard. (BTW, I have a P5 rev3.3 with Curtis IC's and I have several spare IC's. Personally, I like the sound of the P5 rev 2 filters a little bit better, but the SSM chips used by the Rev 2's are all but impossible to find these days and there are other features of the rev 3's that make it more reliable. I prefer the added reliability of the rev3's, but I might change my mind if someone started to make the SSM chips again.)My 2nd favorite (of these 3 synths) is the OB-Xa because I like the 2pole/4pole filter option although the 4-pole filter doesn't sound quite as nice as the P5's although it does sound very good. (Too bad Oberheim didn't use their famous 2-pole state variable filter.) The P5 rev3 and OB-Xa use the same VCO, VCF, and ADSR IC's and I'm actually surprised that their is such a noticeable difference in the sounds of these 2 synths although there are definitely some similarities. I also like the portamento options on the OB-Xa since you can do both smooth and step portamento (and polyphonic portamento) like the CS-80. The P5 cannot do polyphonic or step portamento and the JP8 can't do step portamento. The big advantage that the OB-Xa and JP8 have over the P5 is that they have 8-voices instead of 5-voices and they are also bi-timbral. This means you can have 4-voices of the OB-Xa make one sound and the other 4-voices make another sound. You can stack the 2-sounds on top of each other or split the keyboard so that part of it will play sound #1 and the other part of it will play sound #2. (I might also add that I have the Oberheim digital polyphonic sequencer that interfaces with the OB-series and this is a really nice addition.). The JP8 is a great sounding synth and it has the most features of the 3 synths, however, it is a bit lush or mushy for my taste. It is certainly not as direct or ballsy as the Prophet-5 or even the OB-Xa for that matter. However, it has a nice arpeggiator as well as a HPF and a LPF that can be either 2 pole or 4-pole. Some people prefer the lush, but not as ballsy sound of the JP8, but I think the Prophet-5 sounds the best and it is certainly capable of producing lush and mushy sounds if you need them.
I think this is the best demo I've seen of these so far, Derek is the man.
I remember seeing this keyboard in some music videos and being the synth junkie I am, I always wanted one. Still do, but just don't have the money for one. I also fell in love with the Polymoog 203A and the Roland Juno 60.
I love the retro sounds - I want one
Dave Muller $5,500
Oh my gosh I remember using the patch at around 1:00-1:30
OMG, it's sounds so juicy and warm. So awesome!!
A great showcase of this amazing synth! That very first patch sounds like it was used by Tangerine Dream from their soundtrack of the movie 'Thief'.
sounds amazing, really dig the sound of the prophet 5...that filter so smooth!!!!
Amazing sounds
That sounds amazing. Excellent video. Than you.
Nice run through...thanks. Have always loved the Prophet 5, and am happy to at least have the Prophet 6 to somewhat appease the old gear lust. Cheers...
"I was never gonna buy it... at that time"
Dear Derek! Here in Argentina waiting for a new solo album!!! :D ;) I would be happy haha
insanely awesome!
My faborite item♡ MEK,PEK,12,and this one♫ I love SCI and DSI.
4:30 opening of Gary Numan's "She's Got Claws"
That 2nd tone was awesomely vintage.
Hey Derek would love to see you talk about patch building on the Prophet. I saved up for the Prophet 6 desktop, but am new to patch building, so would love a tutorial.
SUPERB! Come the video's coming!
Some people critisize the prophhet 5 for looking as a forniture. Other has the pro 5 as. a forniture in theire livingroom. Those people are wrong. This synthesizer has a very original design in wood. Only the control panel is made of siiicon or some type of hard plastik. This instrument does not only sound good, it looks also beatyful in this design of wood.
Yes I still have it for sale. :)
what is your e-mail address? would like to make an offer
THIEF. Please send me your e-mailadress(answering this message on this video). Then I will give you details for this Prophet 5(that is in very good conditions) and the price I can offer.
deadheadroses AT gmail dot com
I think sequential wanted the P5 to look like a polyphonic version of the Minimoog. The original SSM filter also sounded quite a bit like the Moog ladder filter in my opinion. Great Synth!
The reason why the VCF control is so smooth is that the control voltage from the pot is directly connected to the filter modules. No analog to digital and digital to analog converter in the signal.
Greetz
Oliver
Is it like that in the newer P6 ?
pretty sure it's just an encoder, or it wouldn't be able to have presets.
There actually is an ADC and a DAC in between the knob and the VCF. The microcontroller stores all the knob info from the ADC in memory and then uses the DACs to send out the control voltages.
No. That'd be true on a Pro-One or Minimoog, but not on this. The knob is read by an ADC. The microprocessor then outputs values to the DAC.
The POT data is converted in 7-bit accuracy. No zipper noise like the 5-bit p600. You know when you here zipper noise that your good money didn't get wasted on expensive RAM chips.
Goddamn. Memoreis of Leo’s Music onTelegraph in Oakland, c. 1982 . . . trying out string synbths, keyboards galore . . . with no hope of ever having the money to get them . . . but just being transported into other multiverses without drugs. And the Prophet . . . the GRANDADDY OF THEM ALL. *praise be to GAWD, and this be His PROPHET . . . FIVE*
Fantastic!
preset 53 was used by Nick Rhodes (duran Duran) in "Careless Memories"..:).
Probably also preset 24. If anybody knows such details please share
2:33 lil bit like papercut zedd
if you want to hear the Prophet put through its paces in a beautiful way, Check out Simon Grey's tune called Prophecy. Amazing sound...
Sweet video! :)
GREAT!
I'm selling a prophet 5 rev. 1 from 1980. The reason for selling it is that i have two of them and would like to invest in another analog synth. I was thinking about a prophet 6 or and ob 6. But those synth 's don't have that sick sound as the P5. I have already the Prophet 8. This synth sounds better than those new actual DSI instruments. Maybe I will look for an old Oberheim 4 voice synth.
Ulrik RH still got yours for sale?
Taylor Alto. Yes i have still a prophet 5 for sale.
it's so nice to see a keyboard demo when the synth isn't falling off some rigged stand.
New synths versus old synths versus new car´s versus old cars. In techincal term the new one´s mayne better, but i like to drive the car. Not that the car drives me. And the same goes for synths to.
I like to play and fiddle around. I like a car to be a car and not an mac on wheel. I like a synth to be a synth and not litte bit of every thing.
That´s why i think moore and moore people tends to look back at the old stuff. Not that it is better in techincal terms, but it let you be the master of the car rather that the car is the master over you. And the same goes for the synths,
@04.02 i feel your face right there, that sound is killer! Is it two oscillators saws unison/detuned with a pitch env on one of them?? Been trying to emulate that sound in the software realm for ages. One favourite in particular is Jane Child - Don't wanna fall in love. I've been doing some decent brasses but not like that. That sounds so 80's. Mine does too but it's not the "right" sound still, any insight Derek? Any software to recommend?
Almost everything on Jane Child's record is sampling or FM. Personally I don't think I heard any analog at all.You can probably get the brasses you want with an emulation of a Yamaha DX-7, DX-21, or any 4- or 6-operator FM synth. Much brighter than analog filters.
Much better than a guitar.
Imo bass and guitar are easiest instruments in planet. :) I guess it's subjective. :))
Ultra Def and Puny Pop - I am cringing by your comments! I'm guessing you're very young, because any adult could adopt logic and work that playing guitar is very technical and has many different approaches to achieving many different outcomes - flamenco,, blues, rock, funk ect. Many dedicate their lives to one particular genre. The level and commitment to becoming a great guitarist is a mammoth task. I've played guitar for over 20 years and appreciate how difficult that goal is. I own a Moog Grandmother and Mother 32, yet, If I had the choice of seeing Jose Gonzalez Live (MUSICIAN) or a live synth (GROUP), I'd take the one with substance and meaning, not some twat with a synth that makes silly noises. True story
@@michaelbennett8981 who hurt you?
Wonderful demo. Which Revision prophet 5 is this?
3.x. You can see the midi on the left (his right)
Are these factory patches?
Of all the poly synths I have, I like the P5 most. I like it better than the J8. Don't know about the OB-X yet. Don't bother buying any of the new Ps, they just don't compare.
Whats the intro song name?
Super nice sense!!♬
Some sounds remind me Ignotus per ignotum kind of songs
Old school synths > boring ipad apps
JoolsGuitar Not until you listen to Arp Odyssei, Zeeon, Animoog, and Kauldron apps.
I have problem with premade patches.
Jack Cimino vst’s will not last 35 years.
@@jackcimino8822 analog hardware always sounds better.... you need to be in one room with them with a good amp and speakers and then you'll know. They don't sound in real life how they sound on TH-cam. Software synths do sound in real life like they sound on TH-cam. Boring.
It's literally the same comparing sitting at a grand piano to sitting on your iPad playing an app. Gee I wonder which is better? Not even a midi keyboard connected to a computer vst is anything close.
I actually own Level 42's Pro 5. How odd. It's a hell of a machine but does anyone know-apart from leaving it on for hours - how I can keep the blood thing in tune? Arrrgh!
Hit autotune ;)
7,200 were made. Not 6,000.
Love those classic sounds. Can come close with the Mixcraft VST's like the Messiah.
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Thanks. You just saved me some money. But thanks for the vid.
Ndlanding ???????
beautifull machine, sounds super beautifull too, i think banks use them a lot...., super cool, i like more the old staff...., you need to b better for play them.....
Those veins though!
beats the Jupiter 8 . because of its "warmth".
I believe the best Jupiter is the 4
I have a wonderfull Roland Jupiter 4. I love it. It has a very warm nice sound and it´s own personality. ;)
Ulrik RH yes it's great isn't. its powerful. I used to own many Synths. but why have so many when you can have what you really love and milk the crap out of it. what I've kept and own is, korg770, prophet 5, pro one, juno 60 and Jupiter 4. the jp4 and korg 770 are extremely electrical
I sold some of my synthesizers to, but have kept my two prophet 5(one for ale), my Juno 60, Korg Poly 800, Kawai 100f mono synth, Prophet 8 and of course my Roland JP4. Before that, I had too many synth´s also. Kept the best of all.
Ulrik RH we are in a similar vein. those are great Synths. yeah I've allowed ten years of my life ruled thinking that the more the merrier but it isn't true. the best sounding is what we've switched towards. there's only so many hours in a day why not spend each moment with what's really worth it. I'd almost feel i would losing a part of me of I dropped any of these. but...I honestly love the prophet the most. even though the jp4 is so wildly electrical And warm. what rev prophets do you own? I always thought the juno 60 sounded better than a jp8 though they have similarities. I personally can't seem to really"love" the sound of obxa ob8. between those and the prophet, I chose the prophet. now with all this said.... I'm considering saving for the prophet 10. it's a beast with a built in sequencer. that's heaven.
I have a JP8, an OB-Xa, and a Prophet-5. Each of them have their advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer the sound of the Prophet-5 over them all because it is warm, direct (as in your face), and very ballsy. The P5 has great sounding oscillators, awesome filters, and the snappiest ADSR's I've ever heard on a vintage polysynth. I also like the way the Polymod section is laid out!. I also think the P5 has the best Oscillator sync sound that I've ever heard. (BTW, I have a P5 rev3.3 with Curtis IC's and I have several spare IC's. Personally, I like the sound of the P5 rev 2 filters a little bit better, but the SSM chips used by the Rev 2's are all but impossible to find these days and there are other features of the rev 3's that make it more reliable. I prefer the added reliability of the rev3's, but I might change my mind if someone started to make the SSM chips again.)My 2nd favorite (of these 3 synths) is the OB-Xa because I like the 2pole/4pole filter option although the 4-pole filter doesn't sound quite as nice as the P5's although it does sound very good. (Too bad Oberheim didn't use their famous 2-pole state variable filter.) The P5 rev3 and OB-Xa use the same VCO, VCF, and ADSR IC's and I'm actually surprised that their is such a noticeable difference in the sounds of these 2 synths although there are definitely some similarities. I also like the portamento options on the OB-Xa since you can do both smooth and step portamento (and polyphonic portamento) like the CS-80. The P5 cannot do polyphonic or step portamento and the JP8 can't do step portamento. The big advantage that the OB-Xa and JP8 have over the P5 is that they have 8-voices instead of 5-voices and they are also bi-timbral. This means you can have 4-voices of the OB-Xa make one sound and the other 4-voices make another sound. You can stack the 2-sounds on top of each other or split the keyboard so that part of it will play sound #1 and the other part of it will play sound #2. (I might also add that I have the Oberheim digital polyphonic sequencer that interfaces with the OB-series and this is a really nice addition.). The JP8 is a great sounding synth and it has the most features of the 3 synths, however, it is a bit lush or mushy for my taste. It is certainly not as direct or ballsy as the Prophet-5 or even the OB-Xa for that matter. However, it has a nice arpeggiator as well as a HPF and a LPF that can be either 2 pole or 4-pole. Some people prefer the lush, but not as ballsy sound of the JP8, but I think the Prophet-5 sounds the best and it is certainly capable of producing lush and mushy sounds if you need them.
Nice imitation of Minneapolis funk. Although they used Oberheim and Rolands and not prophets.
TheArtofDHT oberheim 100%. And the prophet can do what they do, but better.
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