The only problem I have with the new S5 is that it's looking more like the other Audi models it seems to get harder to differentiate between the models in each line at first glance. It seemed to me that the old S5 was very handsome and stood out more from the other Audi models. I loved the sculpting of the old A5. Regardless 2017 it's still a very nice car, inside and outside many improvements that are finding their way into all Audi models. The refresh of Audi models continue to be successful and the built quality and attention to detail shine through. Good job on the review, your English is fine in my view! Well done. :-)
One correction: S4 and S5 also feature the tiptronic/converter gear box, we mixed that up. Smaller engines then as said with the dual clutch transmission s-tronic.
Guys, I have just test driven the new S5 coupe for a day. I own the ´09 Audi S5 with the V8. Of course, this new one lacks some of the character of the V8 one. It is mainly noticable in city traffic, where the V8 would rumble even on light throttle at 20 km/h. On the other hand, revving the new V6 sounds juicy, with pops from the exhaust. Acceleration is near-brutal and the exhaust sound is reminiscent of the RS3 and TTRS 5-cylinder unit´s. And the transmission is as sharp as ever. I have to say many of the reviews I have read (excluding Autogefuehl ;)) have faulted the new car for no reason! You really have 2 cars in 1 (choose Comfort, and you have a really smooth ride with no hustle and your neighbours will not even notice you are driving what may be - after options - a EUR 90k car; but put it in Dynamic and you overtake before your eye blinks twice). Wonderful! :)
This car has the best drag coefficient 0.23 and the best Dual clutch gear box of the earth with audi quattro AWD with 40:60 torque distribution. I love it.
Yes, a review by 'the Holg' again! Thanks Holger, great review! Can you hear the engine sound, you asked. Well, yes! This thing sounds glorious. One of the best features of the car, I think. It looks good, especially the interior is really to my taste. Seems to drive really well, even comfortably if you want to. Luckily it's out of my price range, I would have sleepless nights if I had to choose between this and a C43! :-)
I have to say... the Autobahn section does look a bit scary. @26:15. As American who has speed limit everywhere, it's hard to imagine driving this fast on a highway lol.
Thomas does it good but this guy is new and every Reviewer is nervous in the beginning. Also, they are not native English speakers so encourage them. Great review ... Keep it up
I really enjoy Holger and Thomas' reviews; a great Father and Son combination. Thank you very much Holger for a relaxed review. The car is excellent. I would have chosen a metallic grey paint job and taken the wing mirrors in the body colour. The "silver" wing mirrors look tacky, in my opinion and stand out too much.
I like the rear and side profile of the new one slightly more, but the front of the older one looks more classy and modern. The new one looks a bit like the 2013 Ford Mondeo from the front, definitely doesn't look 'premium' any more. Also Audi seem to have gone from being number 1 in interiors to being behind both Mercedes and BMW, they need a revamp similar to Mercedes.
Hello Autogefühl! :) Please view this as constructive criticism from a long-time viewer and not as trolling or hating or anything like that: I thought this "review" was not up to the standard of quality that I'm used to by Autogefühl and that has, by the way, not necessarilly anything to do with the host. I think we've all come accustomed to the format Thomas introduced, namely going in deep and paying attention to every little detail, especially interior and driving-wise. If you have to switch hosts for any given reason, please stick to your own format and keep the attention to detail up. Apart from that, a review should literally REVIEW the product and if possible compare it to competitors - during the driving segment we've had more of a "play-by-play"-commentary of the car but NOT a review in my humble opinion. Since I'm considering to buy a A5/S5 Sportback I'd like to see a "real" review, with the attention to detail, that make Autogefühl's content so special and sets it apart from any other channel on youtube. Thanks for reading and keep up the good work :)
They haven't moved the styling on. They've honed it and there's very little to distinguish it from the previous model externally. The inside whilst solid still appears sombre and industrial by todays standards. Its steady as she goes for Audi. Nothing to see here move along. Now the Q2, that's a different story ....
love the interior, nice at night too (not fan of the fix LCD though) those assistance features are not exclusive anymore, even a golf7 has ACC etc at 23:00 feels like fake noise generator, as going from 120 to 150 didn't seem to be a big push
I think you can definitely shorten your videos. There are many minutes floating without Holger saying anything substantial about the car. "Now we enter Autobahn...too much traffic....now I use the adaptive cruise control". What I wanna know (and fast) is how the car feels and goes. The responsiveness, comfort, noise levels, acceleration etc". The reviews should be more on point and I think that the language barrier in many ways hinders you to speak fluently about the car. That is a huge deterrent to watch the reviews because it takes too long time before something substantial is told about the cars. Why not hiring someone that is more comfortable with English?
I liked the first A5 more than those 2... And it is time for Audi for rear wheel drive base... If Alfa Romeo can go that way so can Audi,front looks too big and too heavy.
piotr feder Front wheel drive is only cheaper option to quattro. Front is very good balanced in audis quattro. And thanks to that, they are soo fast. In AWD car front must have more weight. Evo, Impreza STi have ~60% mass in front. Skyline gtr etc. have ~58% mass in front too. Only front wheel drive concept in Audis line are small Audi A3, A2, A1. Rest are 100% AWD constructions.
I'm not saying that 4 wheel drive is bad for the car ... But the Quattro at Audi is a Front wheel drive + 2 wheel drive for the Quattro ... the Engine in the Audi is placed infront of the front axle and in all back wheel drive it sits behind or above the axle. Audi started with the Quattro because the power was too much for the front wheels... I know that this days Audi have done very good job... but it would be even better if it was based on a rear wheel drive car. Audi R8 is a different story
piotr feder Audi started with Quattro, because quattro is best. They show this in btcc in 1996 and then get banned. Engine is in good place in audis, they must be understeer. RWD needs central mounted engine. RWD with front engine are bad. Fastest cars are central mounted engines with AWD like Porsche 918. Faster on small tracks than m3, Clio RS have 65% of mass in front. And what? Faster than M3, 911 have 65% of mass in rear. Faster than M3 on almost every track RS5 B8 has ~58% of mass in front. And what u want to change?
Autogefühl Even on the road. If you have a crash/hard contact with the wheels, your thumbs will break if they are on the inside. And if you are drifting, you have a much improved reaction time with the steering. That also counts for evasive manoeuvres. It's really much safer and professional. And acquires just a little bit getting used to.
Audi S5 keeps losing its curves which made it look more unique and stronger. Since 2010, this car continues to move in the wrong direction in body style imo.
Thanks, I ask because because I had an A5 SB and that light came on a lot. Audi said it was using too much oil and so after only 8000 miles it had to have the engine out and replaced rods and rings.
i test drove one of these last week at my dealer (pre-prod model) and i like that the A/S 5 is getting its own design as the last model felt like just a A4 coupe, now it stands out
The typical comment from those without multi-cultural and/or travel experience...At least he makes an effort, unlike many who never pick up a second/third language.
This to the top of the panel attached screen looks so outdated like from 2009. If audi designers have no imagination how to integrate it at least they should try to copy it from a modern car company, maybe even chinese...
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This reviewer is great. He is easy to understand and very likable like Thomas. Great! You guys are #1.
+M DOSD 👏👏👏
The only problem I have with the new S5 is that it's looking more like the other Audi models it seems to get harder to differentiate between the models in each line at first glance. It seemed to me that the old S5 was very handsome and stood out more from the other Audi models. I loved the sculpting of the old A5. Regardless 2017 it's still a very nice car, inside and outside many improvements that are finding their way into all Audi models. The refresh of Audi models continue to be successful and the built quality and attention to detail shine through. Good job on the review, your English is fine in my view! Well done. :-)
thanks jake!
One correction: S4 and S5 also feature the tiptronic/converter gear box, we mixed that up. Smaller engines then as said with the dual clutch transmission s-tronic.
Autogefühl is the tiptronic any slower than the s tropic?
I think so, yes.
supposed to be more durable, though.
***** makes sense, ok. Thank you!
having just received my S5 i honestly cant notice a difference from my old S3 that used a DSG
Guys, I have just test driven the new S5 coupe for a day. I own the ´09 Audi S5 with the V8. Of course, this new one lacks some of the character of the V8 one. It is mainly noticable in city traffic, where the V8 would rumble even on light throttle at 20 km/h. On the other hand, revving the new V6 sounds juicy, with pops from the exhaust. Acceleration is near-brutal and the exhaust sound is reminiscent of the RS3 and TTRS 5-cylinder unit´s. And the transmission is as sharp as ever. I have to say many of the reviews I have read (excluding Autogefuehl ;)) have faulted the new car for no reason! You really have 2 cars in 1 (choose Comfort, and you have a really smooth ride with no hustle and your neighbours will not even notice you are driving what may be - after options - a EUR 90k car; but put it in Dynamic and you overtake before your eye blinks twice). Wonderful! :)
Nice touch to have the old generation and the new generation side by side.
+James Rothwell ✌️️🚙🚘
no no no no no no no no no no I need Thomas to review the s5 stop this there better be a full review with him
He can't even barely talk
Very nice review Autogefuhl, I really love the new A5/S5 coupe, You guys will do a review of the S5 Sportback? I hope so! :)
we will try!
IMO the A4-A5 have the best interior in class.
I think the tt has ^^
I love both of them; great review as always !
(Y)
This car has the best drag coefficient 0.23 and the best Dual clutch gear box of the earth with audi quattro AWD with 40:60 torque distribution. I love it.
Thank you Autogefühl for an excellent review I ordered my s5 last night can't wait until delivery
wow congrats :)
The A5 is understatement !!
Really love this car :)
Yes, a review by 'the Holg' again! Thanks Holger, great review!
Can you hear the engine sound, you asked. Well, yes! This thing sounds glorious. One of the best features of the car, I think.
It looks good, especially the interior is really to my taste. Seems to drive really well, even comfortably if you want to.
Luckily it's out of my price range, I would have sleepless nights if I had to choose between this and a C43! :-)
=)
I still like the older one
Really loving the new A4/A5 range. Never liked that 'updated' old A5, the original design by Walter de Silva was really elegant.
I have to say... the Autobahn section does look a bit scary. @26:15.
As American who has speed limit everywhere, it's hard to imagine driving this fast on a highway lol.
The older one is more elegant, more refined. The new one looks bigger - more of a bruiser.
S3 / TTS / RS3 / TTRS : 7 speed S Tronic dual clutch
S4 / RS4 / S5 / RS5 / SQ5 : 8 speed Tiptronic torque converter
S6 / RS6 / S7 / RS7 / S8 : 8 speed Tiptronic torque converter
R8 : 7 speed S Tronic dual clutch
that's right. Pretty confusing, isnt it
shame. the old design was much nicer. Audi buggered this one up. Good review guys.
thanks toby !
is it just me, or does the older A5 have a better curb appeal?
Yes it does...sex-appeal also If you are that way inclined...
New one of course
Holger good review and dein Englisch ist sehr gut. Danke
Thank you! My father will live on in my memories and in these videos.
One thing I would like more of in these reviews is more sporty driving on private roads since it's a sports car :)
Eine fantastische Zusammenfassung! Danke! Sehr interessant.
danke auch !
+1. Nice review as always. I raise a hand for the older exterior design. Less busy...
thanks michael!
Thomas does it good but this guy is new and every Reviewer is nervous in the beginning. Also, they are not native English speakers so encourage them. Great review ... Keep it up
+Deval Raval thx 4 support!
Several testers mentioned quite a significant turbolag. Did you experience this as well? Thank you and kind regards.
not really, and you can always manually shift or goto dynamic mode
Thank you!
I really enjoy Holger and Thomas' reviews; a great Father and Son combination.
Thank you very much Holger for a relaxed review. The car is excellent. I would have chosen a metallic grey paint job and taken the wing mirrors in the body colour. The "silver" wing mirrors look tacky, in my opinion and stand out too much.
+OldVillain thanks so much bro!
Where is Thomas????
Everyone is Thomas!
He's at 14:47. 😉
Good job, Holger!
Thomas is starting his own channel - AutoWOW.
drunkensessions How do you know ?
=)
I like the rear and side profile of the new one slightly more, but the front of the older one looks more classy and modern. The new one looks a bit like the 2013 Ford Mondeo from the front, definitely doesn't look 'premium' any more. Also Audi seem to have gone from being number 1 in interiors to being behind both Mercedes and BMW, they need a revamp similar to Mercedes.
where is thomas?
People should stop worrying about the back seats in coupés. It's a car you buy for yourself to enjoy. If you want to carry 5 people get a SUV.
great review! A real Pro (as is Thomas of course)
thanks a lot!
Hello Autogefühl! :) Please view this as constructive criticism from a long-time viewer and not as trolling or hating or anything like that: I thought this "review" was not up to the standard of quality that I'm used to by Autogefühl and that has, by the way, not necessarilly anything to do with the host. I think we've all come accustomed to the format Thomas introduced, namely going in deep and paying attention to every little detail, especially interior and driving-wise. If you have to switch hosts for any given reason, please stick to your own format and keep the attention to detail up. Apart from that, a review should literally REVIEW the product and if possible compare it to competitors - during the driving segment we've had more of a "play-by-play"-commentary of the car but NOT a review in my humble opinion. Since I'm considering to buy a A5/S5 Sportback I'd like to see a "real" review, with the attention to detail, that make Autogefühl's content so special and sets it apart from any other channel on youtube. Thanks for reading and keep up the good work :)
we re always trying to improve - the whole team, thanks. A5 Sportback review will be coming up as well, Thomas will take over for that again :)
They haven't moved the styling on. They've honed it and there's very little to distinguish it from the previous model externally. The inside whilst solid still appears sombre and industrial by todays standards. Its steady as she goes for Audi. Nothing to see here move along.
Now the Q2, that's a different story ....
Agreed other than the Q2 (back to the drawing board...) comment. Q5 on the other hand...
To each their own afterall...
THOMASSSSSS COME BACKKKKK
soon!
Even in 2021 the older gen looks more appealing.
IS HE DOING 113??
interesting review, but why you compare and older A5 with a new S5 and not a new S5 with and old S5 etc.? or am i a missing something...
Because you don’t just have an S5 by chance yourself
Back is top. Front also looks great but does not nail it 100%
Thanks for the video!
:)
love the interior, nice at night too (not fan of the fix LCD though)
those assistance features are not exclusive anymore, even a golf7 has ACC etc
at 23:00 feels like fake noise generator, as going from 120 to 150 didn't seem to be a big push
FULL REVIEW S5 Cabriolet: th-cam.com/video/6jZaxBY6L1I/w-d-xo.html
outside ugly, the old S5 is way better, even worse than new s4/A4.
But interior is definitely good, quality looks better than MB C class
Nothing against the presenter. But, WHERE'S THOMAS???? Took such an effort to get used to that guy and actually started liking his presentation style.
we have a big team, no chance to cover more than 150 cars for you each year otherwise :)
I think you can definitely shorten your videos. There are many minutes floating without Holger saying anything substantial about the car. "Now we enter Autobahn...too much traffic....now I use the adaptive cruise control". What I wanna know (and fast) is how the car feels and goes. The responsiveness, comfort, noise levels, acceleration etc". The reviews should be more on point and I think that the language barrier in many ways hinders you to speak fluently about the car. That is a huge deterrent to watch the reviews because it takes too long time before something substantial is told about the cars. Why not hiring someone that is more comfortable with English?
The Ford Fusion called, it wants its hood back, seriously Audi?
The old front of the car looks so much better. The new one is kinda ugly.
Arvin Peopleinlove you will get use to it, wait till RS5
agreed ... I don't like it too.. older design was better
why cant these roads exist where I live? I could never drive that fast without fear of losing my license and never driving again.
Great review! Would prefer mine with non-leather Alcantara!
thanks Chad!
Awesome....this may be my next car!
How Audi managed to screw up the look of one of the prettiest cars on the road......news at 11
Is there fog lights on that car?
nice review .
thanks, tune in for more!
Welche Felgen sind das? Die gibt es im Konfigurator nicht..
Is this tango red metallic color or coral orange ?
I liked the first A5 more than those 2...
And it is time for Audi for rear wheel drive base... If Alfa Romeo can go that way so can Audi,front looks too big and too heavy.
Audi = Quattro. And thanks god.
The Quattro is based on a front wheel drive concept... front too heavy.
piotr feder
Front wheel drive is only cheaper option to quattro. Front is very good balanced in audis quattro. And thanks to that, they are soo fast.
In AWD car front must have more weight. Evo, Impreza STi have ~60% mass in front. Skyline gtr etc. have ~58% mass in front too.
Only front wheel drive concept in Audis line are small Audi A3, A2, A1. Rest are 100% AWD constructions.
I'm not saying that 4 wheel drive is bad for the car ... But the Quattro at Audi is a Front wheel drive + 2 wheel drive for the Quattro ... the Engine in the Audi is placed infront of the front axle and in all back wheel drive it sits behind or above the axle.
Audi started with the Quattro because the power was too much for the front wheels... I know that this days Audi have done very good job... but it would be even better if it was based on a rear wheel drive car.
Audi R8 is a different story
piotr feder
Audi started with Quattro, because quattro is best. They show this in btcc in 1996 and then get banned. Engine is in good place in audis, they must be understeer. RWD needs central mounted engine. RWD with front engine are bad. Fastest cars are central mounted engines with AWD like Porsche 918.
Faster on small tracks than m3, Clio RS have 65% of mass in front. And what? Faster than M3, 911 have 65% of mass in rear. Faster than M3 on almost every track RS5 B8 has ~58% of mass in front. And what u want to change?
With every exterior shot, you can see that thing understeer. Seems that audi still hasn't found a way to overcome that.
Stephen N At video time 29:56 ... What understeer? Watch the rear come around.
13:37 Martin Winterkorn missed a lot more than a gap in the panels 😉
=)
15:28 I see some loops and arms on the top of trunk. Are they for bags?
i just loved it...what a car..it will destroy 4 series and c coupe
when are you gonna review the new 2017 Audi Q5 and Audi SQ5?
On my way to Mexico atm for the Q5
Great!! Well have you good trip .
...a long flight to Mexico? Crikey!
yeah ... full of jetlag now ..
Never grip the steering wheel with your thumbs on the inside of the wheel. It's very unsafe to drive like this. Better put them on the outside.
Hm that counts for offroad driving, but for the road?
Autogefühl Even on the road. If you have a crash/hard contact with the wheels, your thumbs will break if they are on the inside. And if you are drifting, you have a much improved reaction time with the steering. That also counts for evasive manoeuvres. It's really much safer and professional. And acquires just a little bit getting used to.
I am pretty sure this video can be shorten to 25 mins. Sorry to say, although I love the car, I felt emotionless watching this review.
watch 1.25 speed if u like
Luv both
Audi S5 keeps losing its curves which made it look more unique and stronger. Since 2010, this car continues to move in the wrong direction in body style imo.
Can you buy a new s5 at the moment in europe ?
yes
old A5 vs new S5 thats not a comparison you told us the diverence of the back, the excaust is on both the same.
not bad, where is Thomas?!!
on his way to Mexico, you'll soon see why ;)
q5
Autogefühl For the new Q5 undoubtedly.
nice, I like this audi
Micro fiber? You mean Alcantara?
Alcantara is a brand name, micro fibre is the material
I didn't know, thanks!
you re welcome. Its like some say Nutella for nut-nougat-creme ;)
Is the engine warning light on?
seems I have to make a special episode on this :) See other comment below
Thanks, I ask because because I had an A5 SB and that light came on a lot. Audi said it was using too much oil and so after only 8000 miles it had to have the engine out and replaced rods and rings.
Warum gibt der Typ immer so kurze Gasstöße auf der Autobahn?
i see some tesla design language in the new a5
Carmakers are working to save weight, but they still add engine covers... wtf
Holger seems to drive faster than Thomas.
Yossavin Sombutpanich Thomas has a very relaxing calming personality he makes it so easy for me to fall asleep i love watching him
Everything is beautiful except for those headlights. Bad design on those headlights.
Next up, a C63 facelift (2018) v C220 (old shape) 2013... just pointless
Pretty sure the touchpad is not an option:)
The standard spec will vary from market to market.
its an option for all other A5's (technology pack) except the S5 as its standard in that
older looks just better
9:22 Engine light already?
engine light is always displayed with every car when ignition is one to proof the light is still working. When it is one WHILE driving, thats bad.
Guys, thoughts on the headlights?
They are beautiful and fit well to the design!
I heard ppl complaining it looks to plain compared to the old one. Maybe I need to see it in person.. not in my lifetime though:(
I like it. Also I like the cascades
i test drove one of these last week at my dealer (pre-prod model) and i like that the A/S 5 is getting its own design as the last model felt like just a A4 coupe, now it stands out
Why it has to be so much more expensive then A4...
lol just 4k Difference
Yay!
Holger ist Kult! :-)
hehe
Old Mercedes-Stretchlimo at 28:07?! :D
what is the music at the beginning (the piano part) please
Sorry, but his English isn't the best.
Very hard to listen..
better than no English at all.
*SkyL1nE I understood his English perfectly
Nick Watts I did too. Very easy to understand.
The typical comment from those without multi-cultural and/or travel experience...At least he makes an effort, unlike many who never pick up a second/third language.
This to the top of the panel attached screen looks so outdated like from 2009. If audi designers have no imagination how to integrate it at least they should try to copy it from a modern car company, maybe even chinese...
Why have Audi changed their A5 ?? Now it looks really ugly, it doesn't have that aggressive look anymore....
because the mainstream wants NEW LOOK for every new model year (I don't). I dont think it looks that ugly but I like it more subtle.
Or the lines...
Where’s Thomas :-(
we also have other reporters - glad to have them :)
Shitty V6 engine sound. Audi just killed the RS5 with this engine .
No, the European Union killed it.
i like audi but mercedes this year gives so much ..
Id take the S5 and the C43 Coupe yea ant the 440i in addition would also be nice.
Lasst das einfach mit dem Englisch wenn ihr es nicht könnt... Klingt grauenhaft. Warum nicht deutsch?
+Michael Hopstock international community
Holg my favorite....
+Michael Blaise 👏
Can you fold down that huge fucking screen so you can see when driving?
it might...good question. would like to know the answer too.
The front of the new grille is ugly.terrible
Looks like a tesla
That accent😂
the new front is super ugly
its ugly from the front