The Wicked Soul In some comics they're considered brothers, in some they're only half, and in some they're not even related. It's a little unclear, but in the movie X-Men Origins, I think they were brothers.
Jeffrey Barnett I'm not sure, I know that Cerebros detected Santa Clause as the most powerful mutant ever registered or something like that. I also don't think they're in the same timeline, but don't quote me on that. Santa was from Earth-616, Matthew was from Earth-TRN-533 or something like that.
Cyclops does not shoot laser beams. His eyes are portals to a dimension of concussive energy. Apocalypse's people did not abandon him, in fact they worshipped him. Apocalypse doesn't actually want to end the world. Apocalypse used celestial tech to evolve beyond mutants & that's why he looks he way he does. Seriously Whatculture, I love most of your videos but leave comics alone because you don't know your stuff.
Apocalypse was abandoned by his people as an infant because of his appearance. He was rescued by Baal & the Stormriders. It wasn't until Apocalypse defeated Rama Tut that ancient Egyptians worshiped him. And no, Apocalypse was born with his distinctive blue lips & gray skin. The Celestial tech basically just gave him an armored body suit. But I agree, this guy doesn't know enough about comics to make a factual vid.
Cap is like 90 something years old and still living. Same with Bucky. So if they eventually die, they'll be like 200 or something years old. But Bucky's refrigerated so he might living to 500 years old. I wonder if I should freeze myself to see the future. Like until someone finds me and wakes me... That would be epic. With probably flying cars or if it's taken over by bad guys (which I doubt God would allow) be burning and stuff and that awakens me.
I'm not going to lie. There are definitely a lot of mutants that are old as balls. this is just a pinch of old as dirt people (mutants) in the comic world
Probably because there are different versions of his character. The popular one from the comics is that he is basically the son of trailer trash who locked him up because he had fangs and claws, and then he killed his father and began a life of villainy.
Because time travel doesn't really affect how one ages. It only changes the perception of others, who may think someone like Cable is really old because he's been around since 1980s, the 3000s & the end of time.
Jay Williams Well, everyone ages, time traveling doesn't really affect one's age. It's just that individuals who are within a certain time stream will precieve the time traveler as "immortal". Because from the observer's vantage point, it would seem that the time traveler has been around for a long time, when in reality, the time traveler is merely stepping in & out of time.
Blackton Obvious! The best response I can give to you is comic science. Some writers make it to where a time traveler is not effected because his body becomes immune to aging and others well you get the point
Jay Williams Well, actual science theorizes that if someone was capable of time travel there'd be a time dilation, which prevents them from aging. It's kind of like the gravitational pull of a black hole. The force is so intense that theoretically time slows down for those affected by the intense gravity. Meanwhile, time passes normally for anything outside of the affect range.
How are you going to include Whipeout but neglect to mention Dr. Nemesis? He is at least as old as Wolverine...also, Sabertooth and Mr. Sinister are no spring chickens.
Actually Mr. Sinister would be deemed a "mutate", not a mutant. And it was Apocalypse who actually used Celestial technology to change Dr. Essex into Mr. Sinister.
@@Simms4 Mutants are born with the mutant gene which manifests their powers around the time of puberty. Mutates are people who gain their powers later in life from external forces, like Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four.
This list is pretty much complete bullshit, Xavier and Magneto have no business on this list. Stole this list from an online article and butchered it to cover his tracks me thinks.
+porkrot Haha No TH-cam red, no ads. Use your head. Where's you head at? Pay money for something you can get for free, not intelligent. There is one born every minute.
I use it for google play you fucking idiot. And sure I could get everything for free with add blocker and torrents but I make money so why don't other people who create content deserve to aswell ? Stop being a leech.
On the contrary, I think you'll find waiting until the end of the video (as opposed to giving up half way through) shows I have a lot of patience. Sh*t Reasoning For W*nkers #Sh*tReasoningForW*nkers. Thanks for playing :-P
Selene is an External. They are evolutionary divergent from mutants in the same way homo sapiens and neanderthals diverged. At least that's my understanding. Externals are immortal.
he doesn't know it. it is said. he is from egypt. not the complete earth. he is not that strong. in the sense... he needs to hibernate and he cannot take control of the world himself.
Pepe Frosch Romulus had been manipulating wolverine's life since he was before he was born. marvel came up with the idea that wolverine wasn't a mutant but instead he was a member of the lupines, a bunch of people that evolved from WOLVES! Marvel realized that it was stupid idea and made wolverine a mutant again.
Yea, you are right. I thought of Apocalypse's "Final Horsemen" (since I have the X-force trade paper back with them in it), but I didn't know what to call them. All of them are over 100 yrs old. And Romulus now always pops into my mind whenever someone mentions Wolverine's age.
well technically thanos is a mutant. granted he's not a human mutant, be he is (or at least, was originally) considered a mutant among his own people. which is why he was powerful enough to wipe out all the other titans.
Loki That's one thing in the comics that bugged me. No one ever has trouble distinguishing who's a meta human and who's a mutant. I don't recall anyone thinking that Spider man is a mutant at any point, its not like most hero's announce to the world why they have powers in the first place.
Atually he is a Neyaphem, a really old group of demonic looking mutants that contrasted with the Cheyarafim, the angelic looking mutants that some think Angel descended from.
Yea, Azazel just popped into my mind when I heard "oldest mutants". He's been around since biblical times, so he's arguably the oldest mutant still alive......or maybe it's Selene.
if the first mutant gave him mutant powers doesn't that make him a mutant. not to mention all the modern mutants were the offspring of the people Mr. Sinister injected with Apocalypse's DNA? that's why all mutants come from apocalypse
Za-Ach Rawchaa Ben Israel He's considered a mutate by Marvel. if you're born with your powers and have the X-Gene, you're a mutant. If you gain your powers later in life, you're a mutate
@muggs00 if you want to split hairs, a bunch of apocalypses powers were augmented to him through alien technology he discovered similar to how he would have bestowed them on Sinister. Still basically a mutation at it's base level whether it's forced or natural. But yeah Nathaniel Essex is definitely no young man, believe he was born early to mid 1800's.
***** That's all I know. 1.Graymalkin(late 1700's) 2.Sabretooth(Early 1800's) 3.Destiny(Mid 1800's) 4.Wolverine(Late 1800's) 5.Mystique(Young in early 1900's)
You forgot several members of the externals (immortal mutants) including Gideon. Also no one born in the 12th (1100+AD) century is over a 1000 years old yet......
And Doctor Dooms Master, Clyde Wyncham, the Marquis of Death used his powers to spend a million years travelling the multiverse. While linear chronologically he may not be the oldest he far exceeds Selene and Apocalypse in power and age
Isn't Doctor Doom himself also kind of on the older side now too, after that whole 'sent back in time and just lived through 'til modern day again' thing he did?
externals are a subset of the mutant population just like lupines, demonic, and angelic mutants. The defining feature of the externals is that all its members possess immortality of some sort
Nathan Hazel logan is dead, Professor x is dead and pretty much every other adult mutant. This video is about how long has a mutant been alive, his/her age of death
Should have included Sabertooth with Wolverine, though I don't mean it in the movie version. But Victor Creed is as old or a bit older than James Howlett/Logan. Also, there are other old mutants in Marvel, it's just that they get lost in the sea of characters.
She's forever rocking some form of super hot (in more ways than one) black leather dom outfit and even goes so far as to bust out a whip every now and then. She's a total bitch and a certifiable bad ass, with both mutant and magical powers. I love her.
Wolverine's confirmed birth year was in the late 1800s. He's not been alive over 150 years, never mind 250+... Hell, they mention Origin so if they know of that then they'll know it starts before he gets his healing factor (therefore the slower aging ability) in it. It also shows the gravestone of his OLDER brother with "John Howlett, 1885-1897" on it. So Wolverine *HAD* to be born after 1885. That's not 250+ years by any maths.
That's the movie version. They're basing it on the comics and showed 'Origin' which was, obviously, the origin of Wolverine. As I said, in that there's mentions of his older brother dying at a young age and Wolverine doesn't seem to know to him as he never talks about him so the fact he was 12 when he died suggests if Wolverine had no memories of him he'd have needed to have died when Wolverine was too young to remember him.
Mainly because they go back and forth on what Selene is. Sometimes she is an X-gene positive mutant External who was active during the Hyborian age of Conan the Barbarian and other times she is just a powerful non X-gene positive human mutate like the Eternals/Deviants created by the Celestials.
Marie Alexandrinne Yea. My point was Marvel tried to make his name kind of like Joan of Arc. His name is suppose to mean Bennet of Paris. But of course Marvel is going to "Americanize" it. To Americans "du Paris" sounds better in English, than "de Paris". But I'm not French, so you know more about the language than me.
If we're counting non mutant as mutant, such as you did with using a vampire. Then wouldn't ghost rider or any other 20+ characters who would easily be older than Selene make the list instead? First ghost rode a Mammoth... That was at least 35,000 years back. In fact the first rider fought with Odin and others against a celestial 1,000,000 + years back soooooo....?
Question, so Selene controlled her clan forcing them to sacrifice themselves so she could keep her vampire beauty, then she joins the Hell Fire Club in New York to get her revenge. Who was she wanting revenge on, I mean doesn’t her clan have a valid reason to exact some revenge on Selene. Anyone able to help answer who she wanted revenge on, thanks!
Well in general you need a master before you can get a doctorate. Ofc he could just mentally implanted he had a master when he was applying for his doctoral enrollment.
Joel Ayoub ORRR You're all actually like smart fucks who in reality probably don't know how to use a calculator, watch the video, comment something nice, or fuck off
Jake Theberge she's a mutant, a specific category of mutants called Externals of which there were many but she killed most off. her abilities are like that of a vampire. She takes the life force energies of people that rejuvenate her and allows her to control others.
Jake Theberge lol yeah basically, but considering he was the only one he knew of (no quick forms of communication back then) and it's easy to see why he thought he was the first. Plus, Selene and the Externals remain hidden in the shadows so even in modern times there's no point when they would connect and compare notes, plus she'd kill Apocalypse lol
"the light of the morning" in Arabic .... we say Sabah Al Noor as "good morning" as a morning greeting in Arabic .. Sabah = morming . Noor (nur) = light .. wishing to the person we greet a morning full of light and hope :) it goes like this : Ahmad: Sabah Al Khair , Mohammad! (morning full of kindness, grace and goodness) Mohammad: Sabah Al Noor , Ahmad! (morning full of light)
Isn't mister Sinister also extremely old? And Wolverines good ol bromantic buddy Sabertooth is at least the same age as Logan himself. Then there was also Azazel. And some wolfy dude too, Roland or something like that
Daniel Alcantara You are quite correct I seem to recall Santa Claus is listed as a mutant in a Marvel Encyclopedia I have... worth it just to see his list of aliases
I think by now Apocalypse is closer to 6000 yo. And he is not meant to end the world, just bring about a "worthy" version of it and carefully guide/ control mutant evolution for the sake of the Celestials. Honestly his backstory was been more poorly done than wolverines and apocalypses' history deserves a solid and FULL analysis by marvel.
this is way off... mystique is in her 80's wolverine about 155 at time of death oldest top ten exodus gideon nicodemus crule absalom apocolypse candra selene burke graymalkin
Mentions Wolverine...skips over Sabertooth. Dafuq!? You could have at least put them together like you did Mystique and Irene. . . . Also, hell yeah to leather fetish! 😍
I swear, if people don't quit saying "where's Sinister?" or "what about Mr. Sinister?" or some sh*t like that, I'm gonna lose my fuc*ing MIND!! Sinister is NOT...... a.......... FUC*KING.......... MUTANT!!!!!!!!! He's a muTATE!!!!!
To be fair Professor X is both a genius and a telepath so someone like that could have easily shot through school and maybe even skipped a couple grades. Also the whole idea that he and magneto are longtime best friends in the comics is not entirely accurate: they met while doing volunteer work in a war torn country and became quick friends because of their philosophical beliefs but they definitely didn’t spend years as friends or start the X-Men together as the movies like to pretend. Also Professor X was always based off of a real life actor named Yul Bryner and in 1963 (The year the first issue of X-Men was published) Yul was 43 years old, meaning at the absolute oldest professor X would be in his early to mid 50s. Also, and this doesn’t really have anything to do with what you said in this video but I just like to point it out since everybody seems to make this mistake, but… PROFESSOR X IS NOT BRITISH!!!!!!!!! Charles Xavier is straight up American; that’s why the Xavier school, which is supposed to be his family home where he grew up, is in fucking NEW YORK!!! The only reason he’s British in the movies is because Patrick Stewart can’t do accents! So please people stop looking towards the X-Men movies as if they are in any way an accurate portrayal of Charles Xavier. They. Are. NOT.
You can't maths and are off by at least a decade on Charles and Max. End of WWII was 1945, current year is 2016 This means someone born in 1945 would be 71 today. Considering max was likely about his tweens in age, if you are using movie-standard, that means he is roughly 85 in FOX's movie-U. I think the comics have him a little younger, but he'd still be in his 80's, not 70s. And that's at a minimum.
What about Santa Clause? You can't forget about the most powerful mutant ever registered!
Yep. Plus they skipped Logan's brother, Sabertooth.
He's not his brother
The Wicked Soul In some comics they're considered brothers, in some they're only half, and in some they're not even related. It's a little unclear, but in the movie X-Men Origins, I think they were brothers.
TexasSpider3241
The most powerful mutant ever recorded is Matthew Malloy
Jeffrey Barnett I'm not sure, I know that Cerebros detected Santa Clause as the most powerful mutant ever registered or something like that. I also don't think they're in the same timeline, but don't quote me on that. Santa was from Earth-616, Matthew was from Earth-TRN-533 or something like that.
So........?
Would you "do" a seventeen thousand year old?
Yes
I mean.. She's definately of the legal age.. eh..
She is hot as fuck so yeah, if she promised not to turn me into literal dust while doing it
If you are not upsetting her, why not?
She could teach you a thing or two. :)
Surely Mr Sinister deserved to be on the list more than Xavier and Magneto, the guy's from the Victorian era
He's not a mutant
Magneto is about 90 years old because he was born on late 1920s
HERE'S JD. marvel character are aged every twenty years
He has to be a kid during the 1940s. So late 20s would be like 14 - 15. I think its a little bit too old^^
Oh man Selene.. hands down my favorite of the old as dirt muties. .
Cyclops does not shoot laser beams. His eyes are portals to a dimension of concussive energy.
Apocalypse's people did not abandon him, in fact they worshipped him.
Apocalypse doesn't actually want to end the world.
Apocalypse used celestial tech to evolve beyond mutants & that's why he looks he way he does.
Seriously Whatculture, I love most of your videos but leave comics alone because you don't know your stuff.
Apocalypse was abandoned by his people as an infant because of his appearance. He was rescued by Baal & the Stormriders. It wasn't until Apocalypse defeated Rama Tut that ancient Egyptians worshiped him.
And no, Apocalypse was born with his distinctive blue lips & gray skin. The Celestial tech basically just gave him an armored body suit.
But I agree, this guy doesn't know enough about comics to make a factual vid.
nice video... you should also do one like this one but top 10 oldest heros of the marvel universe
Apocalypse does not mean "the first one". It comes from the Greek word "apokalypsis", meaning "an uncovering".
3:13 Holy shit, does no one else see how funny that is?
Do I hear a Cable, since he's a time traveller he's older then everyone
Wait, if Apocalypse was the first mutant... How was Selene born 12,000 years before him???
With no monsters left on the field, I summon FUCK OFF!
Cap is like 90 something years old and still living. Same with Bucky. So if they eventually die, they'll be like 200 or something years old. But Bucky's refrigerated so he might living to 500 years old. I wonder if I should freeze myself to see the future. Like until someone finds me and wakes me... That would be epic. With probably flying cars or if it's taken over by bad guys (which I doubt God would allow) be burning and stuff and that awakens me.
As of now, both Cap and Bucky are 100 years old since they were born by the end of World War 1.
Would of figured apocalypse #1. but im not that into comics to know any better.
love the casual music XD
Santa clause is not only one of the oldest mutants but one of the most powerful... just sayin''
Daken was born during the US bombing of Hiroshima, so he's like 70.
What About Azazel? He was around in Babylon
I'm not going to lie. There are definitely a lot of mutants that are old as balls. this is just a pinch of old as dirt people (mutants) in the comic world
17,000. wow. And as logan was mentioned, so should be sabertooth, I think.
Well, you skipped Sabertooth whi is just about the same age as Logan plus 2-4 years.
Probably because there are different versions of his character. The popular one from the comics is that he is basically the son of trailer trash who locked him up because he had fangs and claws, and then he killed his father and began a life of villainy.
Robert Gronewold Or they skipped Sabertooth which is just about the same age as Logan plus 2-4 years.
he's talking comics, not that god awful shit movie that even fox disowned
R.A. Bobby B creed is about 100 years older than Logan
These are the original versions of the characters from the comics hes not talking movies from FOX origins...
How is cable not on this list.
Born in 1980 rised in 3000's
Then changes history and lives to end of time with hope.
Because time travel doesn't really affect how one ages. It only changes the perception of others, who may think someone like Cable is really old because he's been around since 1980s, the 3000s & the end of time.
Blackton Obvious! But it does in fact affect age *points you into the direction of game theory and several other videos*
Jay Williams Well, everyone ages, time traveling doesn't really affect one's age.
It's just that individuals who are within a certain time stream will precieve the time traveler as "immortal". Because from the observer's vantage point, it would seem that the time traveler has been around for a long time, when in reality, the time traveler is merely stepping in & out of time.
Blackton Obvious! The best response I can give to you is comic science. Some writers make it to where a time traveler is not effected because his body becomes immune to aging and others well you get the point
Jay Williams Well, actual science theorizes that if someone was capable of time travel there'd be a time dilation, which prevents them from aging. It's kind of like the gravitational pull of a black hole. The force is so intense that theoretically time slows down for those affected by the intense gravity. Meanwhile, time passes normally for anything outside of the affect range.
Apocalypse's isn't about ending the world. He's about creating a world where only the strong survive.
Yes, and when the mutants rans out of food he would make them eat his meat for the rest of eternity because his blood nuirishes mutants and kills us
The apocalypse of the weak
Who else prefers what culture top 10's to watchmojo's?
Muldoonza 14 I would choose what culture by a snap rather than that pretentious all glamour unreliastic countdown of a channel
you could even say watch mojo make shit lists for wankers #shitlistsforwankers
Muldoonza 14 yeah, nearly every top ten list is so much better than watchmojos top ten lists.
Not me
Muldoonza 14 Everyone. Watchmojo is the worst place for top 10s.
Seline was actually used as the basis for the creation of Kate Beckinsale's Underworld character.
How are you going to include Whipeout but neglect to mention Dr. Nemesis? He is at least as old as Wolverine...also, Sabertooth and Mr. Sinister are no spring chickens.
Rob Gates thank you I was annoyed they weren't on the list
Yeah... isn't sabretooth actually OLDER than logan ???
Sinister isn't a mutant. He was a human who experimented on himself and gave himself a mutant with complete control of his body's cells' abilities.
Actually Mr. Sinister would be deemed a "mutate", not a mutant. And it was Apocalypse who actually used Celestial technology to change Dr. Essex into Mr. Sinister.
+Joshua the hand Yes. He should be included. Magneto like him is a mutant but not one of the X-Men.
Where Sabretooth and Mr. Sinister.
Sinister doesn't count since he's a mutate
DARTHORIAN_DARK_WING what?
@@Simms4 Mutants are born with the mutant gene which manifests their powers around the time of puberty.
Mutates are people who gain their powers later in life from external forces, like Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four.
@@TheGeneralTree oh thanks for clarifying
Ahah I actually got an ad for Logan prior to this 😂 god it looks good!
Cj Brown same haha. can't wait for it to come out
the 15 minute long ad?
didnt have to be a logan movie...could cast the same people and call it the last of us.
This list is pretty much complete bullshit, Xavier and Magneto have no business on this list. Stole this list from an online article and butchered it to cover his tracks me thinks.
I like that the ad I got was Logan
same lol XD
You tube red.... no adds
+porkrot Haha No TH-cam red, no ads. Use your head. Where's you head at? Pay money for something you can get for free, not intelligent. There is one born every minute.
I use it for google play you fucking idiot. And sure I could get everything for free with add blocker and torrents but I make money so why don't other people who create content deserve to aswell ? Stop being a leech.
porkrot me too I got it for Google play as well TH-cam red is just a bonus
Azazel (Nightcrawler's father) has been alive since biblical times.
He's probably not on this list because he's not a mutant. He's a demon.
Mystique's son as, well.
Magneto was pretty upset that Azazel got taken out
@Sergio Díaz Nila How the hell is biblical times 6000 years ago? Isn't it like 2019 years ago?
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I spent the whole video waiting for Ben to say Sh*t-Something or other-For-W*nkers #Sh*t-Something or other-For-W*nkers :-P
Sounds like you don't have a lot of patience.
#shitnopatienceforwankers
On the contrary, I think you'll find waiting until the end of the video (as opposed to giving up half way through) shows I have a lot of patience. Sh*t Reasoning For W*nkers #Sh*tReasoningForW*nkers. Thanks for playing :-P
It's definitely a highlight :P
I hate that bit so much.
@The Wiggly Truth me too. The whole Shit _______ For Wankers thing is unfunny to me, and more importantly, played out quite awhile ago.
i dont get it, if Apocalypse is the "the one" and first mutant.. how is there a mutant older than him... technically she's "the one"
Ichinegro Negrosaki the natives got here before them
Selene is an External. They are evolutionary divergent from mutants in the same way homo sapiens and neanderthals diverged. At least that's my understanding. Externals are immortal.
Selene is a mutant and yes, she is older than Apocalypse.
he doesn't know it. it is said. he is from egypt. not the complete earth. he is not that strong. in the sense... he needs to hibernate and he cannot take control of the world himself.
K3eOne That's in the Movie universe
#Shitendoftheworldbringerforwankers
You forgot Mr. Sinister according to his history, he's about 2500 years old.
Sinister isn't a mutant he's a mutate
You forgot the 4 final horseman of apocalypse and romolus.
Pepe Frosch we don't talk about Romulus.
sirloinofice Okay
Why?
Pepe Frosch Romulus had been manipulating wolverine's life since he was before he was born. marvel came up with the idea that wolverine wasn't a mutant but instead he was a member of the lupines, a bunch of people that evolved from WOLVES! Marvel realized that it was stupid idea and made wolverine a mutant again.
sirloinofice Ohhhhh. Well, I thought, that Lupines are Muties. Thanks for the answer you magnificent human beeing.
Yea, you are right.
I thought of Apocalypse's "Final Horsemen" (since I have the X-force trade paper back with them in it), but I didn't know what to call them. All of them are over 100 yrs old.
And Romulus now always pops into my mind whenever someone mentions Wolverine's age.
Great math guys)) Professor was kid during WW2 and he is 60 or 70 years old.
he also changed bodies a few times so his aging keeps getting put back.
well technically thanos is a mutant. granted he's not a human mutant, be he is (or at least, was originally) considered a mutant among his own people. which is why he was powerful enough to wipe out all the other titans.
but how old is he?
As Master mold told the ignorant extremists, "mutants ARE humans". I doubt Thanos is a human, I thought he was from another planet.
Sa'luk He's an alien. His race lives on Titan, one of Jupiter's moons.
Only those with X-gene are considered mutants.
Loki That's one thing in the comics that bugged me. No one ever has trouble distinguishing who's a meta human and who's a mutant. I don't recall anyone thinking that Spider man is a mutant at any point, its not like most hero's announce to the world why they have powers in the first place.
Missing: Sinister (180?), Ozymandias (contemporary of Apocalypse)
What about Azazel. That guy has been around since early biblical times.
He is a demon.
Atually he is a Neyaphem, a really old group of demonic looking mutants that contrasted with the Cheyarafim, the angelic looking mutants that some think Angel descended from.
I think he's a misplaced Genie. But, I could be wrong.
Yea, Azazel just popped into my mind when I heard "oldest mutants". He's been around since biblical times, so he's arguably the oldest mutant still alive......or maybe it's Selene.
god or goddess should be #1 except flat earthers can all go fuck themselves!
Where was Azazel?? He was born before biblical times.....
Kamala Drake yr right, he is actually older than apocalypse, he was there around 15000 years ago
Good call, Azazel is always under appreciated.
Well technically he is a demon not a mutant
King Silver no he's a mutant that looks like a demon, who's kind had a war with angelic looking mutants.
Dylan Carroll That would wreck the storyline entirely. If they’re are two ancient species of mutants.
Mr Sinister, he was alive since the Victorian Era, I'm guessing he was born about 1830 which would mean he would be about 186 years of age
he wasn't a mutant, Apocalypse just gave him mutant powers
my favorite character but he wasn't a mutant at first
if the first mutant gave him mutant powers doesn't that make him a mutant. not to mention all the modern mutants were the offspring of the people Mr. Sinister injected with Apocalypse's DNA? that's why all mutants come from apocalypse
Za-Ach Rawchaa Ben Israel He's considered a mutate by Marvel. if you're born with your powers and have the X-Gene, you're a mutant. If you gain your powers later in life, you're a mutate
he is a mutate
What about Mr. Sinister? Wasn't he around since the 1,800s?
The Lawn Gnome But Selene has 17,000. If I'm not wrong; Mr. Sinister isn't a mutant.
Mr. Sinister isn't a mutant? Than what is he?
evansusmc his powers were given to him byApocalypse weren’t they?
@muggs00 if you want to split hairs, a bunch of apocalypses powers were augmented to him through alien technology he discovered similar to how he would have bestowed them on Sinister. Still basically a mutation at it's base level whether it's forced or natural. But yeah Nathaniel Essex is definitely no young man, believe he was born early to mid 1800's.
evansusmc he wasn't born a mutant but I believe (I could be wrong) was turned into one by apocalypse in theVictoria era so 1800.
WTF Graymalkin IS older than Logan, Mystique and Destiny,why did you put him behind? Also clearly you haven't heard about the Externals.
And Sabretooth, whom you also forgot.
Sa'luk yeah i wondered where they were to
***** That's all I know.
1.Graymalkin(late 1700's)
2.Sabretooth(Early 1800's)
3.Destiny(Mid 1800's)
4.Wolverine(Late 1800's)
5.Mystique(Young in early 1900's)
Ichinegro Negrosaki No I haven't heard about them, who the hell are they, nope, never.
You have to read the early issues of X-Force from the 90's. They were the oldest mutants and also immortal.
this involved both x-men and antagonists so it would make sense if they involved sabertooth and Romulus as well
yeah
Neither Sabretooth or Romulus are as old as you think.
Sabretooth is older then wolverine.
Also Sabretooth isn't technically a mutant. His powers were given to him so you'd call him a mutate.
Mrs Tentacion Read up. He is a mutant. He was born with the ability to retract his claws.
You forgot several members of the externals (immortal mutants) including Gideon.
Also no one born in the 12th (1100+AD) century is over a 1000 years old yet......
And Doctor Dooms Master, Clyde Wyncham, the Marquis of Death used his powers to spend a million years travelling the multiverse. While linear chronologically he may not be the oldest he far exceeds Selene and Apocalypse in power and age
Isn't Doctor Doom himself also kind of on the older side now too, after that whole 'sent back in time and just lived through 'til modern day again' thing he did?
Yeah but he isn't a mutant.
tpbloomfield this is about mutants though not just characters in the Marvel universe
externals are a subset of the mutant population just like lupines, demonic, and angelic mutants. The defining feature of the externals is that all its members possess immortality of some sort
Shouldn't Apocalypse's original Four Horsemen be on the list?
Kris Occhipint no
Pretty sure they died...
Kris Occhipinti no becuz they are dead
Apocalypse is also dead tho
Nathan Hazel logan is dead, Professor x is dead and pretty much every other adult mutant. This video is about how long has a mutant been alive, his/her age of death
So y'all are gonna go by the horrible movie The Wolverine. Instead of the comics, where he was born in the 1880s? Seriously? Sad.
i guess you can say mistique has a 'date with destiny.'
Should have included Sabertooth with Wolverine, though I don't mean it in the movie version. But Victor Creed is as old or a bit older than James Howlett/Logan. Also, there are other old mutants in Marvel, it's just that they get lost in the sea of characters.
I hate first comments
But this is a first comment...
Is it though
mind fuckkkk
I humped Selene's granny
So we have gone from talking about firsts to really old pornstars. 2016 everybody
Mr. sinister his at least older than Magneto n Prof X
He's not a mutant though
Technicality, Sinister is a mutate not a mutant
He's from Victorian age.
He is from the late 1800's though
i read... That he was around by the 1800's etc. Apocalypses gave him or manifested his powers.
Seline sounds like my kinda girl
Selene. :)
saline solution
salty
She's forever rocking some form of super hot (in more ways than one) black leather dom outfit and even goes so far as to bust out a whip every now and then. She's a total bitch and a certifiable bad ass, with both mutant and magical powers. I love her.
She would totally make one hell of a dom...ya know, If you, like, know somebody that's into that sorta thing.
The Logan from the thumbnail looks like old man Rick from the walking dead season 9.
Damn magneto is one buff 80 year old in the comics
The armor he wears, he adds wight to them with his own powers to stay fit, just in case someone can push he into hand to hand combat
You forgot about mr sinister just saying, if this was meant to be old mutants he defiantly is older than magneto and professor X
Wolverine's confirmed birth year was in the late 1800s. He's not been alive over 150 years, never mind 250+... Hell, they mention Origin so if they know of that then they'll know it starts before he gets his healing factor (therefore the slower aging ability) in it. It also shows the gravestone of his OLDER brother with "John Howlett, 1885-1897" on it. So Wolverine *HAD* to be born after 1885. That's not 250+ years by any maths.
Macephtopheles I thought he fought in the civil war in the 17 hundreds he was a least in his 20s than
That's the movie version. They're basing it on the comics and showed 'Origin' which was, obviously, the origin of Wolverine. As I said, in that there's mentions of his older brother dying at a young age and Wolverine doesn't seem to know to him as he never talks about him so the fact he was 12 when he died suggests if Wolverine had no memories of him he'd have needed to have died when Wolverine was too young to remember him.
number one was a vampire not a mutant get your shit together dude !
patman0250 she's a mutant with vampire like powers she never died so she is still human
so Im at #2 and im confused to why Apocolypse isnt the oldest since he was the 1st????? let me continue watchibg
because he is not the first mutant
because *gasp* if you waited til one, you learn he wasn't
Mainly because they go back and forth on what Selene is. Sometimes she is an X-gene positive mutant External who was active during the Hyborian age of Conan the Barbarian and other times she is just a powerful non X-gene positive human mutate like the Eternals/Deviants created by the Celestials.
David Brailsford so why do they always refer to him as the 1st and original???
DeathBahamutXXX thank you for an answer that makes sense
mutants who are older than selene :
1-forever man.
2-amahl farouk.
3-nicodemus.
4-saul.
5-hungry.
Bennet du Paris? Who on Earth chose that name? Clearly someone who's never taken a French class in their life XD
Not really. It's kind of like Joan D'Arc.
Blackton Obvious! Nope. In French, "Bennet" sounds like an old-fashioned insult meaning "idiot", and it should be "de Paris" and not "du Paris".
Marie Alexandrinne Yea. My point was Marvel tried to make his name kind of like Joan of Arc. His name is suppose to mean Bennet of Paris.
But of course Marvel is going to "Americanize" it. To Americans "du Paris" sounds better in English, than "de Paris".
But I'm not French, so you know more about the language than me.
Good thing they didnt call him 'Merde de Paris'
Dizzy Lizzy That would have been at least be more grammatically correct. Lol
If we're counting non mutant as mutant, such as you did with using a vampire. Then wouldn't ghost rider or any other 20+ characters who would easily be older than Selene make the list instead? First ghost rode a Mammoth... That was at least 35,000 years back. In fact the first rider fought with Odin and others against a celestial 1,000,000 + years back soooooo....?
You missed Azazel
But, Quality entertainment overall!
Question, so Selene controlled her clan forcing them to sacrifice themselves so she could keep her vampire beauty, then she joins the Hell Fire Club in New York to get her revenge. Who was she wanting revenge on, I mean doesn’t her clan have a valid reason to exact some revenge on Selene. Anyone able to help answer who she wanted revenge on, thanks!
Professor X got a doctorate not a masters.
Yea, that's what I thought too, hence him being called "Professor".
Well in general you need a master before you can get a doctorate. Ofc he could just mentally implanted he had a master when he was applying for his doctoral enrollment.
Joel Ayoub ORRR You're all actually like smart fucks who in reality probably don't know how to use a calculator, watch the video, comment something nice, or fuck off
Shaun Tanger no, you fuck off
Mr. Sinister isn't the youngest either
He also wasn't born a mutant.
Mr.Sinister is a mutate
professor X was 90 in Logan
you missed Victor aka Sabretooth who is older than logan
Um, Logan was born in the 1880's.
in the comics world yes in the movie it was 1830's
even earlier than 1880. i think he was born between 1830 and 1840
that's 100 years later
Sebastian Lundh no Logan was born in the 1600s
didnt he fight in War of 1812 on British/Canadian side vs US?
sabertooth is older than wolverine.
nathaniel essex/ mr sinister has hung out with apocolypse for centuries
several eternals would qualify
....
he is mutate
In the official timeline of 616 Wolverine was born on 1897, so 250+?
i was not thinking 70-80 i was thinking 150-159
In Logan, Logan is 197... Unless you mean the comics then he might be 250+ yrs old.
So is Selene a mutant or a vampire?
Jake Theberge she's a mutant, a specific category of mutants called Externals of which there were many but she killed most off. her abilities are like that of a vampire. She takes the life force energies of people that rejuvenate her and allows her to control others.
Remy Melanie So Apocalypse needs to change up his whole first mutant propaganda thing he's got going.
Jake Theberge lol yeah basically, but considering he was the only one he knew of (no quick forms of communication back then) and it's easy to see why he thought he was the first. Plus, Selene and the Externals remain hidden in the shadows so even in modern times there's no point when they would connect and compare notes, plus she'd kill Apocalypse lol
Remy Melanie does that make her the first mutant then?
Anthony Chu one of the first, yes. The Externals were a pretty big group of mutants and I'm not sure if they said specifically whom came first
Meanwhile, at DC.
*Vandal Savage:* Look at those kids.
OOH HEY I GOT A MUTANT THATS OLD your mama
Cyclops doesn't shoot laser beams from his eyes.
R3fug33 he shoots optic beams.
Maybe LASER beams, then ?
He shoots concussive beams.
Disregarding that, he doesn't physically shoot them from his eyes, his eyes are a portal for the beams.
R3fug33 they do have heat to them though, it's not just a concussion force that he shoots.
Oldest mutants in the Marvel Universe can be sorted out in two words.
The Externals.
That's not what Apocalypse means, it means "Through the concealed"
I think he meant Apocalypse's other name: En Sabah Nur.
I searched it, and it means something like "the first morning".
That makes a bit more sense - he wasn't very clear though
"the light of the morning" in Arabic
.... we say Sabah Al Noor as "good morning" as a morning greeting in Arabic .. Sabah = morming . Noor (nur) = light .. wishing to the person we greet a morning full of light and hope :)
it goes like this :
Ahmad: Sabah Al Khair , Mohammad! (morning full of kindness, grace and goodness)
Mohammad: Sabah Al Noor , Ahmad! (morning full of light)
+Leroi Grizzly
And yet you would still probably get tackled for that in America
i would like to see some series with Selena :-)
Mr Sinister anyone?
Not a mutant
Isn't mister Sinister also extremely old? And Wolverines good ol bromantic buddy Sabertooth is at least the same age as Logan himself. Then there was also Azazel. And some wolfy dude too, Roland or something like that
Top 10 badass mutants in X-Men history. Just a suggestion
Well what about Santa? He is a really old mutant?
Or am I wrong?
Daniel Alcantara You are quite correct I seem to recall Santa Claus is listed as a mutant in a Marvel Encyclopedia I have... worth it just to see his list of aliases
Chris Anderson what are they? Tell me plz.
The math leaves something to be desired. Being born in the 1920s makes someone over 100 years old?
were is sabertooth???
I'm here because I saw *Wolverine*
me to
guys, Mr Sinister? or Dr. Nathaniel Essex to give him his other title. Been around since Dickensian Britain!
Romulus
Mystique is gay? No thanks I'll stick to the cinematic universe
cody lefler she's gay there too you just never get to really see her sexuality in the movies cause they are PG 13
correction, she is bisexual.
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You skipped Mr.Sinister and Romulus.. Among others.. They are far older than Magneto.and Charles...
Mr Sinister is not a mutant, he was artificially enhanced by Apocalypse and his own genetic experiments.
I think by now Apocalypse is closer to 6000 yo. And he is not meant to end the world, just bring about a "worthy" version of it and carefully guide/ control mutant evolution for the sake of the Celestials. Honestly his backstory was been more poorly done than wolverines and apocalypses' history deserves a solid and FULL analysis by marvel.
Everyone knows that the world is only 6000 years old. Right 👁👌
Eric Jackson Don't you mean 2000 years old
the Earth is alot older than that actually
Lol oh my bad
No. It's Stan Lee and Marvel Comics who's 6000 yrs old, dude.
I just Googled to see just how old the Earth really is and according to the internet the Earth is 4.543 billion years old
this is way off... mystique is in her 80's
wolverine about 155 at time of death
oldest top ten
exodus
gideon
nicodemus
crule
absalom
apocolypse
candra
selene
burke
graymalkin
Mentions Wolverine...skips over Sabertooth.
Dafuq!? You could have at least put them together like you did Mystique and Irene.
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Also, hell yeah to leather fetish! 😍
Ozymandias???
Or Perhaps
Mr. Sinister?
My Favorite WOLVERINE • LOGAN
I swear, if people don't quit saying "where's Sinister?" or "what about Mr. Sinister?" or some sh*t like that, I'm gonna lose my fuc*ing MIND!! Sinister is NOT...... a.......... FUC*KING.......... MUTANT!!!!!!!!! He's a muTATE!!!!!
To be fair Professor X is both a genius and a telepath so someone like that could have easily shot through school and maybe even skipped a couple grades. Also the whole idea that he and magneto are longtime best friends in the comics is not entirely accurate: they met while doing volunteer work in a war torn country and became quick friends because of their philosophical beliefs but they definitely didn’t spend years as friends or start the X-Men together as the movies like to pretend. Also Professor X was always based off of a real life actor named Yul Bryner and in 1963 (The year the first issue of X-Men was published) Yul was 43 years old, meaning at the absolute oldest professor X would be in his early to mid 50s. Also, and this doesn’t really have anything to do with what you said in this video but I just like to point it out since everybody seems to make this mistake, but… PROFESSOR X IS NOT BRITISH!!!!!!!!! Charles Xavier is straight up American; that’s why the Xavier school, which is supposed to be his family home where he grew up, is in fucking NEW YORK!!! The only reason he’s British in the movies is because Patrick Stewart can’t do accents! So please people stop looking towards the X-Men movies as if they are in any way an accurate portrayal of Charles Xavier. They. Are. NOT.
You can't maths and are off by at least a decade on Charles and Max.
End of WWII was 1945, current year is 2016
This means someone born in 1945 would be 71 today.
Considering max was likely about his tweens in age, if you are using movie-standard, that means he is roughly 85 in FOX's movie-U. I think the comics have him a little younger, but he'd still be in his 80's, not 70s. And that's at a minimum.