UK HOLIDAYS FROM HELL! PONTINS BREAN SANDS
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THIS VIDEO WAS FILMED IN 2019 before covid. So yes it is open and yes I paid.
more fool you then .
went here in 2018 left after 2 days . awful
@@G3n3r4t0r1111 its a lot better now since 2020 its been cleaned up
I'm in my 50's and I remember going to pontins as a kids
This is much nicer than the Pontins in Ainsdale near where I live. They’re an appealing company, all there parks and hotels are like this.
We used to go there every year for a dancing competition before they built the new units - this vidoe doesnt even compare to what we used to have to stay in. The same standard of cleaning : ) but with half doors missing even broken window with tape to patch it up. We had to go there for the competition as everything was booked up in the area at the time with so many people travelling from around the world but the craic was mighty (best of a bad situation). Don't get me wrong we were kids and loved every minute of it - I guarantee that my parents though had something to say back then also. When they put the new units in they were lovely (what you are seeing in this video) clearly not cared for though - alwys will have fond memories from Brean sands regardless of the shoddy park
Man, I'm so sad to see Brean Sands like this now. As a kid, my Mom was a single parent, so she couldn't afford expensive holidays abroad. We would go to Pontins Brean Sands every year for a week.
This was in the 1990s/very early 2000s. I remember watching WWF Sunday Night Heat there once as a kid when I was obsessed with wrestling.
The place used to be packed, and I mean packed. The indoor areas had people always in them, and I remember that amusement hall. It was my childhood memories of a holiday. Now it looks like an abandoned site, somewhere near a Soviet nuclear disaster!
It is safe to say that this place is gone for good now it is being used to house workers building a nuclear site. There is no way this reopens in 2026.
Very sad to see.
They have closed down now
It’s sad because I used to go to Pontins every summer when I was a kid around 30 years ago and it was amazing we loved it ….. how times have changed
They need to deep clean it
Its just ran for big profits
@@ExploringWithLucy they need to knock it down
Totally. Pontins used to be ace.
@justinvardy2652 big profits? There is like 10 people at the whole park lol
Whaaaaaaaat I thought you were exploring an abandoned holiday park at first... this is shocking
They are, check the date it premiered.
they were condemned and empty by health and safety board before this video made .
@@alanturfmoor4076 not now its not ,already upgraded at cost of millions
I know. I had to go back to the start of the video, to see if she was really visiting a closed down, part of the resort! Hell No!
@@Clara-ph7my yes it was a closed down section of the park ,they certainly never gave that filthy apartment to her ,and thats a true fact.
Went there about 4 years ago and it was just as bad. I’m shocked this week pace is still allowed to operate. The room was a health hazard and after spending about an hour there we had to find another hotel. Never again!
It’s gross
@@ExploringWithLucy I weny to pontins about a month ago, disgusting!
How these places are allowed to remain open is a mystery to me
The issue is that local councils have no power over guest accommodation, on step in when it comes down to food hygiene. It is very grim, just thankful that the site is to be closed for 3 years!
I agree!
The Brean Sands resort featured on BBC watchdog a few years ago because of hygiene and safety issues. People were reporting things like mouldy pillows, brown pool water, broken play equipment. Disgusting.
They have all been closed down now!
I have booked up in that room with the boarded windows so I dont have to look out at the misery of my life
Good idea that
Lmao 🤣🤣
Looks some Eastern European council estate for the Roma refugees. Do people really book and go on holiday there?
They do
Lol 😂
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One of the worst experiences of my life trying to holiday there for four nights! I will forever feel guilty for making my 4 year old stay there! Unhygienic, unsanitary, dangerous, and completely ready to be bulldozed! We made it to two nights before we came back home again. Felt so vunerable. Had strangers trying the locks in the middle of the night, drunken antics, copious vomiting of intoxicated guests outside, broken glass everywhere, mould, grease, faeces, blood, used condoms, dirt and grime! Never ever again will I ever put myself or my son through that again! Cannot believe this place is still going! I will never forgive myself for giving this dump a go!! Absolutely atrocious
They must be! There is no way this is a legal and legitimate way of running a business, let alone a business in the hospitality sector! Safety and security is absolutely not at the top of their priority list!
They have all closed now
How can they let it go so downhill. Use to go to a few around england each year with my parents and a friend. Nothing like that 40 years ago. Was great back in olden days. Shocked to see all these pontins videos how now.
They didn’t bother doing any of it up!
I stayed here about 10 years ago and we left at 2am the first night. Doesn’t look like anything has changed. Avoid like the plague!
Exactly it’s disgusting
Is this place still operational? I’m surprised the health authorities haven’t closed it
Apparantly they can’t do anything they only have remit over food preparation areas no laws on accommodation standards or hygiene so of course pontins take advantage! I think they also have powers if rodents are found but they will be smart to hide that I’m sure.
Look at the date, it had been closed due to covid for a year
@@jamara3330 I stayed there about 10 years ago and it was exactly the same unfortunately. We left at 2am on the first night....
This is a disgrace to the Pontins name. Britannia ...... Enough said.
What about the date? It was filmed in 2019…
I used to take my daughter here years ago for a cheap weekend. It was just about bearable for a quick break. The last time we went I swore we'd never go back after the chalet stank, there was no electricity and someone had pinched the telly!! The breakfast in the restaurant was vile and congealed to top it all 3 days after we left the ceiling in the main entertainment room collapsed injuring people.
Brean sands is a lovely little place, it's such a shame this horrible place isn't bulldozed and a nice holiday complex built!
The staff are lovely though. Feel sorry for them.
It is a shame! Place needs a good refurb of knock down and start again
They need to knock it down and start again. We camp at Warren Farm in Brean and we love it, but you can't camp in March!!
They do! All PONTINS are the same. Run down and old
Very sad.
Millions was spent on refurbishment and staff training on all Pontins sites in the late 90s. Then Britannia hotels took them over in the 2000s. Went down hill from then onwards.
I was a nineties staff member it wasn't great but it was a damn sight better than this
Closed down now!
Closed down now!
At the start of this video I thought it was abandoned!! A good deep clean and a tidy up structure wise and it would be good to go!!!
It does look abandoned haha
It needs flattening
Your easy to please Paul , it’s my worst nightmare .
I'm at brean right now.. every time I walk past pontins I have a quick look of anything had changed. I waste like 5 mins of my life looking at that disgrace (and yes nothing ever changed)
Haha never will
I love how it says ‘Revolution’ on one of the skate ramps as it literally looks like a Soviet housing block. I read recent trip advisor reviews from June this year & still as bad.🤣
It’s bad
Great Holidays from Hell Vlog, not surprising there was nobody else at the park, great warning vlog, thanks for sharing
Thanks tony hope you enjoyed!
it was end of season in october .the place was closing also for renovation rebuilding etc ,go see it now 2021
@@terry-wc9sw Still a hell hole
My parents used to have a caravan in Brean when I was a kid we used to go every other weekend. We used to take our kids there about 15 years ago. Never realised that holiday park was that bad. I used to love it there as a kid especially the amusement arcades and the beaches. Sadly as you get older it either gets worse or just see how it really is.
It is disgusting
Brean Sands was so good 👍
We go camping at Warren Farm in Brean Sands, it's lovely! The beach is fab and the people are lovely
Went there 5 years ago and it was terrible then. We asked for are money back and moved to John fowler site down thr Road. Remember while we queue with many others a couple asked us why we were all queuing up and said we wanted are money back as it was awful. They said they were coming there for many years and loved it. Nothing changed at all.
I remember John Fowler haha
Aye I've been to pontins once, for one night. I remember queueing to get our room key and there were others queueing to complain.
Imagine actually paying to stay at what looks like an abandoned old army barracks. What a perfect place to take your family
I was thinking the same
Local councils buy up these places ,bulldoze the lot and build nice houses for local people. These places make my skin crawl, wouldnt leave my dog there...
Neither would I
I would rather sleep in my car!
Definitely cleaner!!
You would have to. The holiday camp was not open and had been abandoned for over a year due to covid.
So sad to see it like this. My family spent a few very happy weeks there in the 80s and it was a fabulous place. Upsetting to see this. 😪
It’s closed down now
This makes me think of all the kids going there with their families because they cannot afford something else and then see the hard earned money wasted for this trash resort.
it was in that state the last time i was there (20 years ago) when we got there i took one look refused to pay and walked across the road and payed for a caravan for a fortnight
That’s crazy
@@ExploringWithLucy agree a fortnight in Brean is totally insane .
Who doesn't want the experience of holidaying near Chernobyl?
Hahaha
When you go on holiday you expect to be able to relax,be spoilt etc. You don't expect to come face to face with dirt,grime, broken furniture etc. I could go on with the list but it's not worth it. You work hard all year round then you take a earned break and you are confronted with that.
The owners of Pontins obviously don't care and are determined to run it into the ground.
The whole lot wants pulling down and closed for good
Exactly
I went to a pontins about 5/6 years ago. I went in to put my bag in the bedroom to find someone else's dirty pants on the radiator. Also half a bottle of lambrini in the fridge with lipstick on the bottle. I was given a free food voucher (I think this was a punishment for my complaint) I would never go back it was the worst 3 days holiday ever and I only stopped as I had to see family (24 of us) and nowhere else local had any space for this many.
It’s disgusting
It looks like they keep the arcade and bar areas nice, because that's where they make money. By the way, you should never throw any wipes down the toilet, they block the drains.
Closed down now.
The fact people still book pontins amazes me considering they've had awful press and feed back over the past 10 years and the fact the owners fail to either give up instead of robbing people with there scummy parks is disgusting
For a low income family there isn't much choice unfortunately! I went every year to a haven or pontins as a kid and loved it. As an adult i wouldn't go near them
Went here back in the 80s, remember having lots of fun
They have all been closed down now!
They have all been closed down now!
They have all been closed down now!
It just shows how little that has been done since 2010, when they were taken over by Brittania ! Absolutely is disgusting !
It is disgusting
Britannia have run every place they own into the ground. Google Norbreck Castle Hotel, Blackpool.
So I'm clear.... was that place open and you had a real booking? That flat was your accommodation?
Obviously it was closed and had been abandoned for a year due to covid. We all know Pontins is crap but breaking in a filming before it reopened is pathetic
Absolutely disgusting, even if it was closed due to COVID there is no excuse for this .
Excuse me it was open when I went hahaha!!! This video was filmed in 2019… you can see it is open.
Dumb comment.
@@jamara3330 it clearly states it was filmed in October 2019
This reminds me of one of those dark tourist vlogs about Chernobyl...
It’s disgusting
was on the news few year back seems the place needs knocking down and rebuilding!!!
It does indeed
I have heard about people booking these holiday camp staycations as the country comes out of lockdown restrictions. With Most facilities shutdown . Is that camp actually open ? Looks a death trap.
The place should be demolished on the grounds of health and safety.
It’s disgusting and needs knocking down
We've gone from exploring with Lucy to cleaning with Lucy 🤣
I should do really 🤣🤣
I thought Pontins had gone into administration. Obviously it is in terminal decline as the park could be renovated but that would cost millions and would they ever get their investment back? From the facilities it looks like one of the better Pontins.
It’s quite disgusting
No words to describe what that was like. No excuses to try to rent out a room in that state.Used to go to Pontins years ago and always found things basic but clean. Would never have accepted something like that. If it was me walk away and demand refund not fit for habitation
It’s disgusting
What a beautiful place. The best resort in the world.
It’s the best 😭🤣
I really love pontins I’m only 14 though last time I went was 2018, all I do with family is stay on site and wonder around the place on my own and get back to the shalley it’s so fun idk why people think it’s hell.
It’s been closed down now!
I was there a few years ago, there was ants in the bedroom, cobwebs and rotten food in the oven.
Grim
You must have visited on a good week then🤣🤣🤣
I do not know for the U.K. but leisure parks are closed in France so this state is possibly due to the fact nobody cares for the place if closed. It should be , even closed but if it has been closed for months, it can explain . Even though , several parts are in a bad state.
They have all been closed down now!
I live near this place and it’s always in the local news, it’s like a running joke round here. I know the ceiling collapsed a couple of years back and killed someone
Wait someone died there and it's still open holy crap
That’s so bad!!!!!!
@@bowlerwildcatGaming1991 yes it is bad
Brittania own all this and they don't really care about cleanliness and haven't moved with the times some parts are quite luxurious compared to the camp we used to go to in the sixties but that camp was spotlessly clean because on the day you left you had to clean the chalet yourself with strong izal disinfectant .
Doh, March 2021 it was not open and had been abandoned for a year in this covid crisis
Britannia also own the Grand in Llandudno, we walked out after an hour it was just as bad.
They have all been closed down now!
They have all been closed down now!
It was open when I was thetr
Went to a Pontins at Lythem St Annes near Blackpool about 1969, 1970 when I was a child. The chalets of this style were new and ok back then.
At the camp you visited in the video, the upgrades such as double glazing and shower have created a ventilation and condensation problem that is very difficult to put right. These chalets do not look to have had any specialist cleaning periodically to remove black mold. Over the years the fitted furnishings look to have failed the test of time. The general cleaning does not seem to include most areas as they are so grotty and filthy. What a mess. The curtains should be replaced by clean ones regularly. The mattresses should be cleaned between occupants and any that are stained with bodily fluids should be replaced. The stained one should be removed and cleaned by a specialist cleaning company or disposed of.
The whole camp is very run down and needs much investment. Maybe, Pontin's need to rethink. Maybe think out of the box to come up with a more sustainable business model that is more focused on what people want nowadays when looking for a holiday or a short break.
I agree
What a shit pit, a couple of years ago, there club ceiling collapsed with holidaymakers in it
I saw that. Aweful place
Ah! I remember when you did this at Camber Sands. :)
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They have all been closed down now!
Were they actually open then?
Weird how nobody else is around.
I'm sure the holiday parks are only just being able to open up now because of Covid restrictions?
Never been to Pontins so I can't really comment.
This was filmed October 2019
Regardless of if they were closed. Which they were not, this was filmed back in October of 2019. They would have been closed to the public, but then places like this tend to close down on off seasons anyway. They could have used that time to renovate, they had months. But nope, just let the mould and stuff grow. Don't make excuses for these gross places.
Always wondered what inside prison looks like.
Hahaha!!!
@@ExploringWithLucy prison is probably nicer, definitely cleaner!
If you're smelling tobacco smoke and it's strong then that's a clear sign there is no regular cleaning. I smoke like a chimney and people tell me it hardly smells of it and the reason for that is regular deep cleaning and airing the house
Needs shutting down
Went there years ago and it was exactly the same. The only good thing was the chippy across the road it was beautiful
Haha the pub a cross the road 🥰
@@ExploringWithLucy my mistake lol the chippy is about a mile down the road. Pub was good to tho ❤️
Never saw that! Just remember loads of arcades haha x
@@ExploringWithLucy yeh that's where we spent most of our time because we didn't want be on camp lol x
@@krisshicken7571 I agree me to 🤣x
Oh my god, I literally had my head in my hands watching how dilapidated and run down this place is. It looks abandoned now. Unfortunately it’s had a complete lack of investment which is so very sad. Thanks for sharing, you’ve done a great job. Ps please don’t throw anti-bacterial wipes down the toilet, they’re supposed to go into the bin. Remember the three ps for toilet use - pee, poop and (toilet) paper.
It’s grim
Brean needs rid of pontins !
Indeed
Ha ha!! I came here for a trip down memory lane! I used to wrestle for a living back in the late 90's early 2000's. Not sure what's it's like to holiday there but spending time in the blue coats...(or was it red coats there?) Staff quarters was WILD!! OH the story's I have. Best times of my life. Do they still have wrestling?
Edit: I commented before watching the video. WOW, this place has really gone down hill. It wasn't exactly the Ritz when I was there but... oof!
They have all been closed down now!
even worst from when i was there in 1995 - and thats over 20 years ago
All been closed down now!
I suspect they are too stingey to pay someone to clean the appartments properly. Someone probably got about 10 or 15 minutes to run a cloth over everything.
Haha definitely, I don’t think they even cleaned it
I miss Brean Sands, it's usually the smell of 80s rug that takes me back here. I'm going here this summer because of my sister. 6 years since I've been to a Pontins, wow.
Good luck haha
@@ExploringWithLucy I'm going to Pontins again tomorrow lol
I started watching thinking you were going to be over critical of a cheap holiday, but halfway through and can see you have good points lol.
Definitely not. Even if it is cheap it should still be clean xx
At first I thought you were filming in Pripyat near Chernobyl. Some of this video looks staged but think I'll pass on my once in a lifetime opportunity of ever going here.
Hahaha
Pontins is like hi-de-hi horrible place,especially in Prestatyn,they're dirty,scruffy and so expensive.
Haha they all are
This is shocking! Have you been to Southport pontins? If not could you do that one if you can please x
I will do that one soon! X
This video is doing really well you have got a lot of views on this video it is because your videos are good people love you videos I do I love your videos Lucy xx
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All been closed down now!
I've only had good experiences with this place. Well I'm going here tomorrow so I hope I have good luck 😅
Good luck haha
Take ya own sheets they give you some plastic shower curtain shit
Loved that video Lucy. It's nice to have you back babe
Thanks so much Carlo x
I’m going at the end of July I’ll get back to you and tell u my experience of it x
Haha let me know x
Well, how was it? lol
pontins is so bad i went to that exact one and its awful the roof fell in people got food poisoning (we didnt) and its hell
It’s bad
I used to go there all the time and in my opinion the entertainment is rlly good for the younger ones and the arcades are fun but the cleaners rlly need to up there game cuz it’s always dirty and a bit run down but overall ig it’s a good place for the entertainment and stuff
They have all been closed down now!
Great video Lucy nice to see you back are you feeling better now Lucy xx
Thankyou uploading a soon about it all x
Never like this when we used to go. It used to be spotless
Note the date, it was closed for a year due to covid
@@jamara3330 clearly open
Oh my goodness… can you not see it’s open? It was filmed in 2019 and uploaded this year. Looool
It was open
Just a traveller camp nowadays, needs shut down.
I went there years ago. Looks exactly the same, very bad, so sorry for anyone who stays there,
Same
What they need to do is take down all the mouldy 60"s accomodation & rebuild modern hotel style rooms. I think Butlins is a little bit better but still not to current day standard's.
Bulldoze it and start again
Butlins is incredible now. They’ve rebuilt hotels such as the wave, wich is my favourite, with incredible rooms, such as the children’s room with TVs, led lights and an oceanic theme and spent HUGE amounts on a new pool with new slides, redone the entertainment, new bowling ally’s, restaurants are amazing and arcades are great too. Everything has been updated wich is why butlins has a 4.3 star rating. It’s such a great holiday. Best I’ve been on in the uk. They also have more outdoor space, such as new parks, crazy golf, archery. It’s So incredible.
@@itsjustcallum5233 moral of the story is either they need to improve pontins or at least knock the sites down and also to go to butlins and haven
Did you go to Blackpool pontins before it closed?
Unfortunately not
@@ExploringWithLucy That site is a housing estate now
I live 5 minutes from here even if i was offered to stay the night for free I wouldn’t
The roof in the main entertainment has collapsed it is very run down
I stayed for the day to see how bad it was and well it was awful the only thing I liked was the skatepark
It’s awful x
Worked here in 1999 in the three bars they had then we had a good team bar food and cleaning but it was dated even back then brilliant laugh brilliant place to work our accommodation was terrible though i would never take my boy to pontins on holiday just think they are underinvested and stuck in a time warp
All closed down now!
Good to see you back lucy ☺️👍
Thanks Julie x
Great explore lucy 😀 xx
Thank you 😁xx
How they haven’t been shut down I don’t know! I can’t believe they expect babies and young children to stay in that accommodation 🤢 we went years ago when I was a child, it was very dull, and scummy back then too.
I’m shocked
And people pay to stay here ! It's disgusting and should be shut down absolutely vile .
It should be
Pontins is the RIP off of butlins, you can just tell lol
True haha
And haven rip off. Haven and butlins are way better
@@cazidycotterill3039 even haven and butlins are shitholes
That room definitely hadn't been cleaned after the last person, must have been a mistake on their part. The bedding on the bed like that was a give away
Definitely didn’t get cleaned
Makes a travelodge look good
Ahhaha
I'd heard it was bad but never expected it to be that bad. That place should be condemned.
It should
Fantastic holiday accommodation...if you're a family of mold spores. 😱
Wouldn’t let my dog stay in such conditions
I've actually spent a night in a North Korean holiday camp. It was not great, but this is worse. Much worse.
This is terrible haha
We went to pontin camber sands recently,it seems there all as bad,should be closed down
They should be closed down I have a video there to
I went to Dawlish Warren back in 2009 and it was holiday from hell! When we arrived my Mum asked where our caravan was and the staff member in reception said “It’s over there.” That wasn’t helpful so we had to find it ourselves and when we did the caravan had live wires underneath!! Inside the cooker nobs kept turning and wouldn’t work and the beds were broken and we complained but nobody came. At the entertainment place my sister said it looked like a school hall and we ate there once and I asked for no peas with my dinner but they gave me peas and my Mum wasn’t happy! The staff didn’t know how to entertain children and we heard a man on stage quietly say “what do I do?” And the bingo was crap. And I had a headache and my Mum and Dad were poorly and my sister was fine. We were glad we left and we will never return! Do Not Go To Dawlish Warren!
Dawlish Warren is packed right now.
Confused
@@ExploringWithLucy Packed, meaning many people there enjoying the summer. August 2021.
What's confusing?
Dear lord, i hope you ask for your money back. I would get back in my car and drive home as fast as possible.🤔😖
They wouldn’t x
@@ExploringWithLucy that's disgusting.😠
I took my partner and daughter for a 3 day break here a few years ago . Checked in looked around and checked out 45 minutes later .. absolute shit hole. I didn't bother to ask for refund as they obviously need the money 🤢🤮
Did the same 9 years ago
It is very discusting
And of all these years, Pontin's still has filthy outdated accommodation and their camps are still run down. But cable ties to fix a broken swing, that's definitely a health and safety risk! Wtf is wrong with Pontin's?
I've been on holiday with Haven, and their accommodation has much better cleaning standards than what Pontin's have! If How Clean Is Your House is still going on, could you imagine Kim and Aggy's reaction if they saw how filthy Pontin's chalets are?😂
Ahahah they need to bulldoze it and start again! Might go back and do some revisits
@@ExploringWithLucy Yeah, they definitely do. Looks more like an open prison camp or a council housing estate than a holiday camp! lol😂
You asked the question what is wrong with Pontins, the answer is obvious, bad management.
Thy are closed now you should try Britannia hotels the people who own pontins thy much the same. Great video keep up with the good work
Good idea! New hotel series will be in the making
Never been to such a place, after watching this i can safely say i never will 😆😆😆
Good don’t hahah
They have left it get like this and it’s upsetting as I used to come here so many times when I was little but now I go to unity farm down the road lovely caravan park. The staff don’t seem to be bothered at pontins I know it’s only cheap but u still expect a safe and clean environment also when u said your chalet stunk of smoke someone put a photo on fb the once of a cleaner sat in the bedroom smoking so maybe the cleaner had a smoke although wouldn’t call them cleaners great video x
Thankyou all closed down now x
ive been here before. the only best thing is the arcade in my opinion.
Agree! They have all been closed down now!
No camber is also not the best but I go anyway with my mom we get a nice room but once when I walked back to my room I saw a golph cart with someone's walky talky and someone said
Someone's toilet seat is broken and someone has a broken shower
It’s disgusting
@@ExploringWithLucy Your not wrong
It looks post apocalyptic.
It is. We’ve just been through 18 months of a global pandemic. That’s pretty apocalyptic to me!
They have all been closed down now!
Definitely
I wondered where I dropped that E table and you found it in the sink 😊
😂😂😂
These gits have banned me from there... I'm English with an Irish surname 🤣
I’m supprised I wasn’t banned with the videos I make here 🤣🤣🤣
would of thought they be thankful for the custom not turning people away lol
Was that done deliberately or? Can't blame you if it was!
Why do they not want Irish people there, I thought that type of discrimination was long since gone.
@@philstaification Yeah, I had relatives and older friends who went over to England to work when things were tough here in Northern Ireland. I knew about the signs and discrimination from around then, I suppose that would have been the sixties and seventies, but I thought that was long since gone. Well I did have a friend who transferred to asda in Newcastle from one here, she was serving a customer and asked him if he needed a hand packing. He heard her accent of course and said, not another bloody foreigner, to which she stood up looked him in the eye and said excuse me I'm British. She only said it to let him know that she was born in the British Isles, we normally don't identify as British anymore and there is sections on forms etc now for Northern Irish etc. I do know that we always feel like second class citizens over here by the government, we're always just an afterthought and unless it effects them we don't matter, but I thought the people would have moved on. I don't know the mainland doesn't want us and the government in the Republic doesn't want us as they can't afford us. I suppose that's why we're strong people lol, nobody wants us. Take care and l hope you get through this terrible virus safely. Best wishes from Northern Ireland.