My father was at this concert, and he had no idea why Ed lost his shit and got so enraged. After reading comments, he found out that Ed's wife left him for another band member, Ross. Is it possible that the guy Ed screamed at didn't know? I mean, it's not like the breakup was a huge news story. My dad is a big fan of CS, and he did not know anything about Ross & Ed's wife until now. Maybe the guy was a big fan of Ross and just didn't know the past history. Hope Ed finds some peace with it eventually.
Ponette hard to say because we don’t hear what the fan was saying that made Ed so mad in the first place. We do hear Ed say the fan didn’t know what he was talking about, so maybe the fan said something like “Ross should still be in the band” or “you guys never should have fired him.” Then again, Ed called the guy the most disrespectful person on the planet, so maybe he did know and brought up Ed’s wife or something. I don’t know, I’m just glad I wasn’t there for this.
Yeah, that's a good point. It's not something that was ever explicitly said by anyone 'official,' nor really surface-level common knowledge. A fan could easily not realize what a loaded proposition it is to bring up Ross. At the same time, from the standpoint of the new guitarist being right there on stage, I wonder what that guy in the audience said...
Ed has been giving to the fans for a quarter century and if you've followed the band you know he cares a lot about his band. Jesse was relatively new and by far the youngin in the band. It's no wonder he found it disrespectful that the person said "bring back Ross"; he was sticking up for Jesse. Ultimately, someone who comes to a collective soul show and refers to Ross is a fan who goes way back. It may be appreciation for Ross, but it's kinda disrespectful to the current lead guitarist. All this is before you even add in consideration for the backstory. Ed was kinda right to lose his shit.
I love collective soul music too, but the Ross era stuff. I did not know until tonight about him leaving the band or why. I saw some of the videos of 99 woodstock and thought.... hmmmm there is something missing and has been since that classic sound they had there... why...? So I searched around and found out Ross left. Then searched some more and found out he was kicked. Searched some more and read lots of rumors why. Then I searched some more and I find this video. Very surprised. I am not a music trivia or drama person, so I didnt know any of this.
@@tajirdahsyat all I know is; late 2001 I believe was when Ross got kicking out of the band and that's when Joel took over. All because Ross and Ed's ex wife had an affair and when Ed heard about it, that's when it all went wrong
Ed was most definitely within his rights to be angry. Some fans (which I don’t think this person was) are nasty and rude. I met Ed in 2009 and he was a good guy. He smiled as I shook his hand.
Lo siento por Ed y Ross, Dios los bendiga. Collective soul es mi grupo preferido. Espero ver a collective soul algún día, es mi grupo preferido. Espero que sanen las heridas.
This is really sad to see; I hadn't been aware of this concert moment before now, and really this is the first time that I've seen/heard/read anything emotional from the band, not just hearsay or secondhand things or sanitized statements. That's a lot of raw emotion, understandable but eye-opening just the same. First of all, Ed has plenty of reason to be upset and I don't begrudge him that at all. At the same time, we fans are always talking about Ross because the music that the band made with him was magic, beautiful and meaningful to a of our lives. It's just deeply sad that it all fell apart in such a divisive, ugly way. I don't know the people involved personally. We're all human and we all make mistakes. Sometimes, the details are such that people go their separate ways and things stay sour. I have to admit that this is disheartening, because while I wouldn't dream of dismissing the hurt that's in the past here, I'd be lying if I said I hadn't dreamed of Ed and Ross musically reuniting someday. Apparently that's not ever going to happen, which isn't surprising, but I didn't realize just how raw that nerve still was.
ja8ames It's hard to say what would have happened musically had Ross stayed. Some bands keep all the same personnel and the music gets stale. I don't know if I'm in the minority but I have loved what they have done post-Ross as well.
Well as you can see here, it looks like what Ross did really hurt Ed deeply and he may never let go of it. It was a crappy thing Ross did. Yeah, he was a great guitar player and his stuff with the band was just killer but still. I think we'll just have to accept that he'll never play with the band again. Sometimes things happen that are so bad they cause a massive rift that can never be repaired.
Ross had an affair with ed's wife according to Pierre Robert from Philly rock station. Hard to get over and forgive a guy that breaks up your marriage. Ed is still awesome and married a nice faithful wife. He has every right to kick out morons from his concert and his band. 19 number one hits and he made his own record label. All the artists complain about the business side of things but Ed is the man as he cut the business leeches off of him with his own record label. Pearl Jam tried to fight concertmaster leeches but Ed actually beat these leeches and still makes the best music.
I feel sorry for this guy and this band..coz Collective Soul never sounded the same after Ross got kicked out. Without Ross, this band sounds just like any pop rock band out there who would do anything to stay relevant. Sorry, but that's the truth. Listen to CS records before and after Ross, and you'll know what I'm talkin' about.
In case no one knows what's going on in this video, Ross Childress was the guitarist for CS until 2001. He got kicked out for sleeping with Ed's wife which, is why you no longer see him in any live videos and probably won't be anytime soon.
My two cents for what its worth. I have followed CS since I was 9 years old when i remember my sister bought their self titled album. Since then I have become a huge fan. Part of the problem is in 2001 when the band went through changes with Ross and Shane, the band communicating nothing that had happened. While you can argue its not really our business, if people don't know then it forms nothing but hearsay and gossip. I feel like enough time has passed that Ed or someone in the band should tell the story. Shane we know left for drugs because there is his testimonial on youtube, but nothing between Ross and the band. Many speculated years ago from an article written in guitarist magazine that the reason Ross was let go was because he wanted to be a bigger presence in the band, but Ed and his brother had some legal contract that said they were like 60% shareholders in the band after they left Atlantic Records, producing 7th year itch which was Ross's last album. This meant Ed and Dean could direct everything from concerts, to travel, to song writing, to media appearances. This is the first video that I have seen that pretty much admits the affair even happened.
kreamowheat you know what's weird to me? Ed and Stephanie (his ex wife) are friends on Facebook. She has pictures up with their son which Ed has liked. It's so weird to me that would happen since she cheated on him/left him for Ross. Wouldn't he hate her as much as Ross? I get they have a kid together, but would you be Facebook friends with your ex if she did that to you and like pics she posted? I have a theory, which is my own. Stephanie and Ed's marriage was in trouble and when it ended, she ended up with Ross. Meaning Ross never broke up the family because the marriage was already over. Having an affair is much different than getting together with a friends wife after the marriage was over. Btw, Ross and Stephanie are no longer together. She's with some other musician guy now. She must really love musicians!
Yeah, as you say, it's been tricky for fans because no one in the band has ever--that I'm aware anyway--spoken about it in any direct detail or with any emotion before. It's understandable that they wouldn't want to speak about that stuff publicly, but from a fan perspective, beloved musicians go their separate ways and there's very little communication about why, thus very little closure, thus you keep hoping that someday it might all come back around. If one has kept up on 'the story' by googling periodically over the years, then one likely knows that it was an affair between Ross and Ed's wife that caused the schism. But that's sort of a trail-of-rumors thing and maybe not everyone knows. Anyway, it's too bad. I've never stopped wishing in my heart-of-hearts that Ross might play with them again, because they made musical magic together. Ah, well....
GSK 82 ed and Stephanie don't have a son together, they have a daughter named Lindsey. Him and his current wife have a son named Lennon after John Lennon.
Okay, so perspective here. It's clear most of you have never been cheated on, or if you have, it wasn't with a friend. My first wife slept around on me for the last couple years of our marriage, and when I found about it I was pretty angry, but angrier still when during a period of trial separation I learned that one of the men she cheated on me with was someone I considered a friend. I later remarried, and so did she, but not to any of the men she was fucking when we were married. By the time she remarried I had let go of most of the anger toward her, primarily because of the fact that we had children together. After ten years married to the true love of my life, I can safely say I hold absolutely no enmity toward my ex-wife. My former friend she fucked? Well, I've forgiven him too, but that's not the same as being ready to be all buddy-buddy with him again. There's something about knowing that when you were in a really bad place, a guy who's supposed to have your back was instead taking advantage of it.
I love how everyone in the comments has this weird Team Ross crap happening when he hasn’t amounted to shit since parting. Ed writes the songs. Ed comes up with majority of guitar riffs. He was a great guitar player but never what made collective soul great.
I love CS and they have always been one of my favorite bands. I know the rumors about Ross Childress and that’s understandable of him being fired from band. But if the rumors are true about why they fired, Joel Koche, then it’s really messed up on the bands part for this one. Joel was a great guitarist for the band and nothing against Jesse. He is just the new guy. I felt really bad for Joel when I heard he had been let go.
I was there with my 5 year old kid. It was hard to hear, especially knowing what happened with Ross. I felt so bad for Ed. Any chance you got the song he played after this?
+Frank G So did Ross seriously go to this show and start trying to talk to the band members from the audience? I know the back-story but am trying to understand what is happening here. I've never seen Ed mad like this.
@@MrDeppness Considering that Ed is saying that Ross is down south somewhere playing karaoke, it's clear that Ross isn't at the show. This is basic comprehension skills.
I’ve been a huge fan since day one. I’ve met both Ed and Will and Will was kind enough to talk to my wife and for about 20 minutes. I can definitely see Ed being more edgy than Will. Let’s be honest Ed’s written all the songs and has done all the heavy lifting throughout. I liked Shane’s style better but Jesse has done well. Shane had a heavier style but he’d be the first person to tell you that Johnny is a better drummer. Like all things that age, time changes things. I preferred the more raw side of the band when they were younger, but almost all the great rock bands were better when they were younger - the first 3 Aerosmith albums or the first 2 Cars’ albums are good examples. Divorce really sucks and it’s obvious Ed is still hurting to this day. Any of us who’ve been divorced can relate. You can’t bang the boss’ wife and expect repercussions. Come on folks.
their music took a nosedive after Ross left. he may have broken up Ed's family, but he also took the soul of their music with him. they replaced his edgy and creative musicianship with bland, uninspiring yawns.
@@JCStorm76 I never said they weren't good and I also still like them and purchase their music and go to their shows. But you are saying that they are just as good and to that I am asking you how many gold and platinum albums have they sold. You see, there is a difference between being good and being just as good. This is why records get certified in the first place.
From the story I have heard from 2 of the 3 people involved in the whole thing, Stephanie caught Ed cheating on her for the last time and told Ross the many ways he was fucked out of money from Ed over the years and Ross left the band. I don't know why it is a sudden issue after 17 years but if everyone knew the truth everyone wouldn't have something to write about. The truth is prety cool and would make a great book but it will never be written. And if Ed has a problem with what i am saying, he knows where i work.
For a lot of us, we have no personal connection to the people and thus no way to really know what happened. Your favorite band splinters mysteriously and then ugly rumors kind of make the rounds. Just a bummer.
I don't blame Ed one iota for feeling the way he does. But it is sad that the world is a little worse without the original lineup creating music; that's not on Ed alone to fix though and he shouldn't feel guilty continuing to put out the best music he can. If there were a magic want to heal all the wounds and rifts that would be wonderful, but it's not the way life works. I AM quite happy that Jesse seems to fit a bit better than Joel and the sound is a little closer to classic again though. That's not to hate on Joel at all, he's a plenty capable guitarist who I'm sure I would enjoy immensely in another band; he just didn't quite 'Gel' with CS.
Ed hates Ross, but is still on good terms with his ex. He has said this in interviews. I don’t get it. Why would he still have a good relationship with his ex wife if she cheated on him and left him for Ross? Makes no sense to me.
I think they have children together. Have to try to keep their mother kinda off the warpath so that she (and her attorney) at least use a bit of KY during the divorce and child support battles.
Peacock Moonlight their son is 21 now. I don’t think that matters. My guess is that since his ex isn’t with Ross anymore that helped the two of them repair their relationship.
Ed was close with Ross. I'm sure a longtime trusted friend. Ross betrayed that love and friendship. That's harder to get over than a shorter term spouse's betrayal..
Simple Chronology the reason he's flipping out is cuz Ross the original lead guitarists had an affair with his ex wife Stephanie. Her and Todd married 3 years after her and ed divorced, they I believe had one child, her and ed had one son Lindsey, and ed has since remarried to michaline, I can never spell her name right, and they have an almost 9 year old son named Lennon he's 8 will be 9. But ed needs to get over the affair that happened 17 years ago his ex Stephanie and Ross divorced about 3 years ago. So ed the wise thing to do would not act like a sissy onstage, I get your still pissed after all these years but now that your ex wife is no longer married to Ross bring him back will, and Shane still talk to him. If you can't bring Ross back at least bring Shane back.
Simple Chronology oh really? Care to share all these other videos? There’s only one other video I know of him flipping out. Two videos is not the same as him doing it all the time. He acted like a jerk in the one with the fan who threw the water bottle, I’ll give you that, but let’s not act like he’s done this 10-20 times.
@@simplechronology2605 All the time huh? Like that one time someone threw a water bottle at the band onstage .....and then this video.....and then.....uh...well....all the time. Just full of videos. Maybe you're the person that people throw things at and you don't have confrontational skills to clap back
That's funny considering they've spent their life doing what they love and making a lot of money doing it while you've spent your life miserable in your mother's basement and talking crap on the internet. Gtfo.
"But whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks heart and understanding; he who does it is destroying his own life. Wounds and disgrace will he get, and his reproach will not be wiped away. For jealousy makes [the wronged] man furious; therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance. He will not consider any ransom; neither will he be satisfied, though you offer him many gifts and bribes." Proverbs 6:32-35 King Solomon was a wise man with great proverbs that still ring true thousands of years later.
@@samuelbasye3508 I think the proverb is for people who think they can commit adultery and not suffer any consequences. If you break up someone's marriage/family, don't expect that person to still be friends with you for the rest of your life.
He didn’t break your family up. You broke your family up. Your wife wasn’t satisfied and needed a real snake, so he slipped it in, she privileged Ross to play in her playground. Ed seems pretentious.
I'm sorry for this guy and this band ... because Colective Soul never sounded the same after they threw Ross out. Without Ross, this band sounds like any pop rock band that would do anything to stay relevant. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. Listen to CS records before and after Ross, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Ed, your wife preferred Ross :/
its a shame shit went down with ross like it did, wish it would’ve been someone else in the band that they could easily replace not ross who was THE big reasons CS got their killer riffs & sound
Ross would be ideal. Last few records have been absolute atrocious 💩. SWYSBC was alright as well as a lot of Joel era but sheesh, their heyday was Ross.
Lol I figured that my beloved [Ed] would have moved on with his life, since he was in a relationship with someone else during the ''Youth' era... I guess not. CS isn't the same without Ross and Shane. It's sad to see this, since I thought he was mature. I'm thankful for the illusion, though... it made me grow and cope with life as a broken teenager. Ah, well. Thanks for sharing.
l iR What? You have a kid to someone, only to find out your bandmate (and childhood friend) has cheated on your wife. You kick him out, urge your fans to understand the reasons are personal, and then spend the next 14 odd years hearing people go "Bring Ross back! Bring Ross back!". The band is definitely past its glory days, but they're doing what they want to do and that's what matters; he doesn't need to deal with haters like that. He apologized to the audience after this.
It has nothing to do with not moving on. Someone in the audience brought it up and he responded. If something like that happened to you and a stranger brought it up, you’d be pissed too.
Scott Magill yeah, these types of comments make no sense to me. I understand some people may want Ross back, but how some people can’t understand why Ed is still angry with him is amazing. Try being married and having your spouse leave you for a close friend. If you’re willing to forgive them for that, let me know. I doubt it. I really doubt it.
Lionel McLure as you might remember, I am not a CS fan by any means and I think Ed Roland is a total douchbag. But in this case, I'm in complete agreement with everything you say here and as an empathetic human being, my heart goes out to Ed. I know what that kind of pain feels like and how long it can last.
Don't blame the temperature tantrum, but grow up Ed. The band is entirely yours and no one can take it away from you. You could have ignored the fan, kept your composure and played to the rest of the paying fans.
So, you can throw someone out of the concert because he said something you didn't like? The guy paid his money and you've got an amplifier. WTF - play on.
Automatic Slim all I can say is I don't throw sh, scream that much of random sh, I just don't scream random sh. & I think concerts go great for me. Although, if I was there w/ my kid, idk. Maybe it would still be a cool event for her or she'd be like why'd u take me to this again?
Can someone please tell me what happened exactly? I am a long time CS fan and am familiar with the whole Ross story. Was it actually Ross that Ed kicked out? Was Ross yelling stuff at Ed from the crowd or did Ed just see him there and call him out? I would really appreciate it if someone could explain what went down.
JackB1 Ross was asked to leaved the band in 2001 after having an affair with Ed Roland's wife. They married in 2004, but I believe they are now divorced. The person in the audience was asking where Ross was. I'm sure he said other things as well, but we can't hear it on the video. Ed threw the fan out for disrespecting him and his family. Ross now plays every week in some bar in Atlanta doing covers. He hosts an open mic night. He will never come back to CS as Ed indicated in this video. "If you want to see Ross, go see him do karaoke".
Ed’s pissed because Ross Childress had an affair with his now ex wife his son Lindsey Chris’s mother Stephanie who actually married ross but cheated on ross as well & they divorced not long after they married. Ross has always been the scapegoat in these situations and it’s sad, not like Ed was some kind of saint either, Ik people have said he wasn’t cheating on his wife uhh idk about that a lot of former band members talk not very kind of how Ed is he is talented but a massive prick, his ego gets in the way that’s what made Stephanie leave him was his ego and how much of a tool he is.
@@langdonalger9219 are you Ed Roland going by another name on TH-cam, cuz you seem like one angry POS You dissing ross is ridiculous and if your wondering my name is not Ross Childress. Ed is a talented prick let’s put it at that and the way they fired Joel was bulls***
Vá com calma Ed, você está muito nervoso, isso pode lhe dar um ataque cardíaco. Não é assim que as coisas são resolvidas. É uma pena que isso tenha acontecido entre você e Ross Childress, mas você tem que entender que isso foi para o seu bem e não pena do seu mal. Deus faz as coisas perfeitamente. Parece que você não manteve os ensinamentos do seu velho pai, o reverendo Roland. Se algo muito chato aconteceu foi porque alguém não merecia sua confiança e certamente não era culpa total de Ross Childress. Você deve entender que algumas situações ruins levam as pessoas mais amigáveis a cometer erros contra nós, como álcool, drogas, etc ... Não que os membros do CS usassem essas coisas. Outra coisa: o perdão sempre se encaixará nas situações mais extremas. Não odeie Ross Childress, Ed, isso só perturba a carreira de sua banda. Não ofenda Ross Childress porque ele nem estava no seu programa para se defender. Você deve usar o silêncio em resposta ao fã exaltado e não ofender o seu ex-amigo da banda. Ross Childress é um cara legal, e ele sempre foi um excelente guitarrista, o mesmo guitarrista que ajudou você a aumentar o nome de sua banda nos 5 primeiros álbuns do coletivo Soul. Não se esqueça de Ed nunca. Nós, fãs brasileiros de CS, amamos a música de sua banda e amamos o trabalho que Ross Childress também fez com você. Não importa para nós o que aconteceu nos bastidores da vida, o que realmente importa para nós é o trabalho da Alma Coletiva, bem como o trabalho de Ross Childress, Joel Kosher e outros ex-membros do CS. Nós amamos você Ed, nós amamos Ross Childress também. Espere pelo perdão de Ross e perdoe-o quando seu orgulho ferido se curar. Entenda que o que Ross fez de errado com você foi um favor para você. Hoje você tem uma linda e adorável esposa e ela parece ser compreensiva e terna para você. Ela te ama e merece seu respeito também Ed. Tenho certeza que você a ama também na mesma medida. Entenda que você não perdeu, você ganhou e Ross também do outro lado da história. Deus não constrói histórias de perdedores, apenas para os vencedores. Perdoe Ross Childress, seja dentro do seu coração e não através da sua própria boca, ou cale-se com Ross. Não guarde rancor no seu coração, não denegrir o seu ex-amigo. Aprenda a transformar seu outro rosto em seu inimigo, mas não se esqueça de que Ross nunca foi seu inimigo também. Não traga os mortos à luz porque você não é Deus. Não traga problemas antigos já enterrados meu filho! Em vez de fugir com Ross Childress por causa de um terceiro, ore por ele Ed. Ore pelo seu ex-amigo, ore por quem se atreveu a trair você ou o que aconteceu. Vá em frente com sua banda e com seu talento porque eles foram dados a você por Deus. Pare com isso, Ed Roland, você é maior do que qualquer briga estúpida com uma mulher ou mesmo por causa de dinheiro, brigas e bobagens que separa amigos e pessoas que você amou. Reconheça que Ross Childress é de fato um excelente guitarrista de rock, um excelente músico, assim como você é. Atire a primeira pedra àquele que não tem pecado, meu amado! Fique em paz Ed, fique em paz Ross, não briguem pela febre dos fãs fãs do Coletivo Soul. Isso pode ser algum conselho que seu velho pai lhe daria para Ed. Entenda isso como uma mensagem espiritual dele para você, meu amigo. do fã brasileiro de sua banda: "Não atire no Ross, ele é apenas o guitarrista da sua banda" lol! (Não atire em mim, sou apenas pianista) Wilson Alexandre - Fundador e Dj do Fofinho Rock Club, desde 1971 do Brasil.
"I love my family and I love these guys on stage." No Ed, you love yourself...As dies-hard CS fans, are we asking you to kick Jesse out of the band and throw him out on the streets??? No, absolutely not. What we are asking of you is that you appreciate what Ross did for you as a band to help you become famous. And that whatever happened in 2001 needs to stay in 2001.
This is such a garbage argument. You get involved with your singers wife and you shouldn’t expect for them to bring you back. Who cares when it happened? That’s not relevant. Also, who says Ross even wants to come back to CS?
bobby bousche' huh? the whole band hates the person he was talking about. Don’t compare what happened here to what you’re used to seeing in other bands
Lionel McLure Ed's father was a minister so he could use those Christian influences and forgive him, now that Ross, and Stephanie are divorced it would make sense.
Christians are called to forgive those who sin against them. Doesn't mean we have to like the person or accept what they did as "ok" and certainly don't have to let them back into our lives especially under those kind of circumstances. Forgiveness means we let go of it and let God handle it.
Listen to what Ed said on stage. "He's never had the balls to talk to anyone in the band". Meaning, if Ross would approach Ed about what happened in 2001, them maybe that might be the beginnings of forgiveness on Ed's part.
Why didn't tough guy Ed (whoever HE is) remove the heckler himself? Yep .... stand up on stage, hide behind your guitar, bandmates, and security, and run your mouth like a 5th grader, Ed.
Wow I wondered what happened I can't believe he did that ! I didn't even know .. but knew it had to be something bad considering how close they were..:(
+Krystal Marra I'm not glad....My god, the guitar playing they could have had on their new stuff would have been amazing with Ross..... It's just sad that he had to screw around with Ed's wife, who was NO angel herself, and then get kicked out of the band..... It's just too bad Ed can't get over it and make a great business decision to bring Ross back.... But, like I have always said, that's never going to happen.... so Jesse it is. I'm just glad Joel is no longer their guitar player, his leads didn't do it for me
Good business decision? WTH is wrong with you? How do you look at someone everyday that fucked your wife and ruined your marriage? Yes she was responsible too but so was he.
He got really angry and defended his current band member (who didn't deserve to be harassed for something he couldn't control), and then he swallowed his pride and apologized in front of (and to) the entire audience - all in the span of two minutes. I know people who wouldn't apologize for something they did in a week, a year, or ever. So, I thought that part was pretty professional. He didn't have to apologize, but he did. He was right to defend his band member and his frustration is certainly understandable. Some of his language may have been a bit strong, but I think that's what the apology to the crowd was about.
@@nerdbot37 Ed Roland sure as hell did. He says it all of the time, as a matter of fact, when he refers to the song "Shine". Don't try to give me that indie music snobbery here either, because I am a huge fan of indie music and full well understand that bands don't necessarily need to be top 40 to be loved by many, but in the case of Ed Roland and Collective Soul, this mindset totally does not apply.
@@samuelbasye3508 I'm not saying all popular music is crap. No indie snobbery from me. There are many factors, many aspects of music that make it either quality, or enjoyable, or - ideally - both. Interesting song structures, unusual phrasing, intelligent lyrics, a great voice or engaging personality fronting it all, etc. Collective Soul have none of those things (to my ears; clearly your mileage varies; taste is subjective). They were, and seemingly remain, 90's re-hashed butt rock. Grunge-lite. Utterly useless and boring to me.
All of Ed's fans love him and even now still are in disbelief! that Ross was such a dick ! They actually say this happens a lot with bands where they mess around with each other's wife's or husbands ... so very sad!! We love u Ed and band !!
Yeah Ed is such a great guy! That’s probably why he fired Joel Kosche and then issued a press release which lied and said Joel chose to leave. You rock Ed!!
So why in the hell did you bother viewing the post??? Plenty of people disagree with you, as they just started another tour celebrating 25 years of music.
Vá com calma Ed, você está muito nervoso, isso pode lhe dar um ataque cardíaco. Não é assim que as coisas são resolvidas. É uma pena que isso tenha acontecido entre você e Ross Childress, mas você tem que entender que isso foi para o seu bem e não pena do seu mal. Deus faz as coisas perfeitamente. Parece que você não manteve os ensinamentos do seu velho pai, o reverendo Roland. Se algo muito chato aconteceu foi porque alguém não merecia sua confiança e certamente não era culpa total de Ross Childress. Você deve entender que algumas situações ruins levam as pessoas mais amigáveis a cometer erros contra nós, como álcool, drogas, etc ... Não que os membros do CS usassem essas coisas. Outra coisa: o perdão sempre se encaixará nas situações mais extremas. Não odeie Ross Childress, Ed, isso só perturba a carreira de sua banda. Não ofenda Ross Childress porque ele nem estava no seu programa para se defender. Você deve usar o silêncio em resposta ao fã exaltado e não ofender o seu ex-amigo da banda. Ross Childress é um cara legal, e ele sempre foi um excelente guitarrista, o mesmo guitarrista que ajudou você a aumentar o nome de sua banda nos 5 primeiros álbuns do coletivo Soul. Não se esqueça de Ed nunca. Nós, fãs brasileiros de CS, amamos a música de sua banda e amamos o trabalho que Ross Childress também fez com você. Não importa para nós o que aconteceu nos bastidores da vida, o que realmente importa para nós é o trabalho da Alma Coletiva, bem como o trabalho de Ross Childress, Joel Kosher e outros ex-membros do CS. Nós amamos você Ed, nós amamos Ross Childress também. Espere pelo perdão de Ross e perdoe-o quando seu orgulho ferido se curar. Entenda que o que Ross fez de errado com você foi um favor para você. Hoje você tem uma linda e adorável esposa e ela parece ser compreensiva e terna para você. Ela te ama e merece seu respeito também Ed. Tenho certeza que você a ama também na mesma medida. Entenda que você não perdeu, você ganhou e Ross também do outro lado da história. Deus não constrói histórias de perdedores, apenas para os vencedores. Perdoe Ross Childress, seja dentro do seu coração e não através da sua própria boca, ou cale-se com Ross. Não guarde rancor no seu coração, não denegrir o seu ex-amigo. Aprenda a transformar seu outro rosto em seu inimigo, mas não se esqueça de que Ross nunca foi seu inimigo também. Não traga os mortos à luz porque você não é Deus. Não traga problemas antigos já enterrados meu filho! Em vez de fugir com Ross Childress por causa de um terceiro, ore por ele Ed. Ore pelo seu ex-amigo, ore por quem se atreveu a trair você ou o que aconteceu. Vá em frente com sua banda e com seu talento porque eles foram dados a você por Deus. Pare com isso, Ed Roland, você é maior do que qualquer briga estúpida com uma mulher ou mesmo por causa de dinheiro, brigas e bobagens que separa amigos e pessoas que você amou. Reconheça que Ross Childress é de fato um excelente guitarrista de rock, um excelente músico, assim como você é. Atire a primeira pedra àquele que não tem pecado, meu amado! Fique em paz Ed, fique em paz Ross, não briguem pela febre dos fãs fãs do Coletivo Soul. Isso pode ser algum conselho que seu velho pai lhe daria para Ed. Entenda isso como uma mensagem espiritual dele para você, meu amigo. do fã brasileiro de sua banda: "Não atire no Ross, ele é apenas o guitarrista da sua banda" lol! (Não atire em mim, sou apenas pianista) Wilson Alexandre - Fundador e Dj do Fofinho Rock Club, desde 1971 do Brasil.
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Gotta give Ed props for telling the fans he loves them and apologizing, seems like a good guy who’s just been through a lot.
“And he’s never even had the balls to talk to anyone in this band.” Almost sounds like he kinda wants Ross to reach out, or feels he deserves it.
The way how Ed says “Cause he’s a piece of SHIT!!” always cracks me up
When I was little, Ed was my favorite member of this band. IT SHOULD’VE BEEN ROSS!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
My father was at this concert, and he had no idea why Ed lost his shit and got so enraged. After reading comments, he found out that Ed's wife left him for another band member, Ross. Is it possible that the guy Ed screamed at didn't know? I mean, it's not like the breakup was a huge news story. My dad is a big fan of CS, and he did not know anything about Ross & Ed's wife until now. Maybe the guy was a big fan of Ross and just didn't know the past history. Hope Ed finds some peace with it eventually.
Ponette hard to say because we don’t hear what the fan was saying that made Ed so mad in the first place. We do hear Ed say the fan didn’t know what he was talking about, so maybe the fan said something like “Ross should still be in the band” or “you guys never should have fired him.” Then again, Ed called the guy the most disrespectful person on the planet, so maybe he did know and brought up Ed’s wife or something.
I don’t know, I’m just glad I wasn’t there for this.
Yeah, that's a good point. It's not something that was ever explicitly said by anyone 'official,' nor really surface-level common knowledge. A fan could easily not realize what a loaded proposition it is to bring up Ross.
At the same time, from the standpoint of the new guitarist being right there on stage, I wonder what that guy in the audience said...
Ed has been giving to the fans for a quarter century and if you've followed the band you know he cares a lot about his band. Jesse was relatively new and by far the youngin in the band. It's no wonder he found it disrespectful that the person said "bring back Ross"; he was sticking up for Jesse. Ultimately, someone who comes to a collective soul show and refers to Ross is a fan who goes way back. It may be appreciation for Ross, but it's kinda disrespectful to the current lead guitarist. All this is before you even add in consideration for the backstory. Ed was kinda right to lose his shit.
Ponette
Great Info. I never heard that. Have to look that up.
I love collective soul music too, but the Ross era stuff. I did not know until tonight about him leaving the band or why. I saw some of the videos of 99 woodstock and thought.... hmmmm there is something missing and has been since that classic sound they had there... why...? So I searched around and found out Ross left. Then searched some more and found out he was kicked. Searched some more and read lots of rumors why. Then I searched some more and I find this video. Very surprised. I am not a music trivia or drama person, so I didnt know any of this.
That’s great Ed! You know where he is, now go get him to replace Jesse lmao
Looks like that person wasn't a smashing young man.
Bad pun?
Correct. That would be Billy Corgan.
It wasnt Ross. It was someone asking for ross. Which pissed the band off.
dave tatro well from what I've heard ross and will Turpin are still friends.
dave tatro cuz it was will's dad that was the one who told Ross about collective soul going into the Georgia music hall of fame.
oh so that's the problem.
did ed ever fight with ross ?
@@tajirdahsyat all I know is; late 2001 I believe was when Ross got kicking out of the band and that's when Joel took over. All because Ross and Ed's ex wife had an affair and when Ed heard about it, that's when it all went wrong
Eat a Snickers Ed.
Ed was most definitely within his rights to be angry. Some fans (which I don’t think this person was) are nasty and rude. I met Ed in 2009 and he was a good guy. He smiled as I shook his hand.
Did he laugh and shake your hand, then make his way back home?
His wife was already for the streets,ross didn't vreak up your family guy. She did. Ya you can be mad but to hate someone for a lifetime is rediculous
I think the real issue is Ed knows Ross was the band’s sounds and their career has never nor will ever be the same.
You sound like a moron
Ed wrote their first hit by himself. The sound came from him. Ross built on that. Idk why people give him all this praise.
@@midnitejesus Because Ross is a very great player, so melodic and creative.
I guess it wasn't just a rumor, hint, or allegation. And now nor left unsaid.
Fin Cell well played
I still don’t believe it.
Lo siento por Ed y Ross, Dios los bendiga. Collective soul es mi grupo preferido. Espero ver a collective soul algún día, es mi grupo preferido. Espero que sanen las heridas.
This is really sad to see; I hadn't been aware of this concert moment before now, and really this is the first time that I've seen/heard/read anything emotional from the band, not just hearsay or secondhand things or sanitized statements. That's a lot of raw emotion, understandable but eye-opening just the same.
First of all, Ed has plenty of reason to be upset and I don't begrudge him that at all. At the same time, we fans are always talking about Ross because the music that the band made with him was magic, beautiful and meaningful to a of our lives.
It's just deeply sad that it all fell apart in such a divisive, ugly way. I don't know the people involved personally. We're all human and we all make mistakes. Sometimes, the details are such that people go their separate ways and things stay sour. I have to admit that this is disheartening, because while I wouldn't dream of dismissing the hurt that's in the past here, I'd be lying if I said I hadn't dreamed of Ed and Ross musically reuniting someday. Apparently that's not ever going to happen, which isn't surprising, but I didn't realize just how raw that nerve still was.
ja8ames It's hard to say what would have happened musically had Ross stayed. Some bands keep all the same personnel and the music gets stale. I don't know if I'm in the minority but I have loved what they have done post-Ross as well.
I'm a past and current CS fan and don't miss Ross of his sound one bit. His sound was not as vital to CS as some die-hards think.
@@strongmeasures oh it definitely was. they are two completely diff era's of collective soul without ross.
Well as you can see here, it looks like what Ross did really hurt Ed deeply and he may never let go of it. It was a crappy thing Ross did. Yeah, he was a great guitar player and his stuff with the band was just killer but still. I think we'll just have to accept that he'll never play with the band again. Sometimes things happen that are so bad they cause a massive rift that can never be repaired.
Ross had an affair with ed's wife according to Pierre Robert from Philly rock station. Hard to get over and forgive a guy that breaks up your marriage. Ed is still awesome and married a nice faithful wife. He has every right to kick out morons from his concert and his band. 19 number one hits and he made his own record label. All the artists complain about the business side of things but Ed is the man as he cut the business leeches off of him with his own record label. Pearl Jam tried to fight concertmaster leeches but Ed actually beat these leeches and still makes the best music.
Do you think the song "Him" is about the adultery between Ross and Ed's wife?
Mark Shaw for sure
Regardless, I absolutely love that song. So simple yet so effective
I also found out that ross DIDN'T REALLY co write the song. Ross just wanted the credit for the song. He also didnt play the song either
Ed’s been watching to many Axl Rose concert footage…😂
I feel sorry for this guy and this band..coz Collective Soul never sounded the same after Ross got kicked out. Without Ross, this band sounds just like any pop rock band out there who would do anything to stay relevant. Sorry, but that's the truth. Listen to CS records before and after Ross, and you'll know what I'm talkin' about.
Ok dude. Whatever you say. Ed Roland was, is and will be the heart and soul of the band.
I respect that..merry christmas
Merry Christmas to you, too. Thank you.
They were better with Ross and Shane, but they had good reasons to fire them. I can’t blame Ed for poor decisions made by others.
subinbar the new guy probably isn’t old enough to play at bars. Looks like he’s just out of high school.
In case no one knows what's going on in this video, Ross Childress was the guitarist for CS until 2001. He got kicked out for sleeping with Ed's wife which, is why you no longer see him in any live videos and probably won't be anytime soon.
Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for this. So how about Shane Evans?
If all they did was sleep that's not so bad, right?
@@williammills8953 in Kansas city
@@williammills8953 shane was kicked out due to drug use. Could he come back maybe. But Johnny is so under appreciated.
My two cents for what its worth. I have followed CS since I was 9 years old when i remember my sister bought their self titled album. Since then I have become a huge fan. Part of the problem is in 2001 when the band went through changes with Ross and Shane, the band communicating nothing that had happened. While you can argue its not really our business, if people don't know then it forms nothing but hearsay and gossip. I feel like enough time has passed that Ed or someone in the band should tell the story. Shane we know left for drugs because there is his testimonial on youtube, but nothing between Ross and the band. Many speculated years ago from an article written in guitarist magazine that the reason Ross was let go was because he wanted to be a bigger presence in the band, but Ed and his brother had some legal contract that said they were like 60% shareholders in the band after they left Atlantic Records, producing 7th year itch which was Ross's last album. This meant Ed and Dean could direct everything from concerts, to travel, to song writing, to media appearances. This is the first video that I have seen that pretty much admits the affair even happened.
kreamowheat you know what's weird to me? Ed and Stephanie (his ex wife) are friends on Facebook. She has pictures up with their son which Ed has liked. It's so weird to me that would happen since she cheated on him/left him for Ross. Wouldn't he hate her as much as Ross? I get they have a kid together, but would you be Facebook friends with your ex if she did that to you and like pics she posted?
I have a theory, which is my own. Stephanie and Ed's marriage was in trouble and when it ended, she ended up with Ross. Meaning Ross never broke up the family because the marriage was already over. Having an affair is much different than getting together with a friends wife after the marriage was over. Btw, Ross and Stephanie are no longer together. She's with some other musician guy now. She must really love musicians!
Yeah, as you say, it's been tricky for fans because no one in the band has ever--that I'm aware anyway--spoken about it in any direct detail or with any emotion before. It's understandable that they wouldn't want to speak about that stuff publicly, but from a fan perspective, beloved musicians go their separate ways and there's very little communication about why, thus very little closure, thus you keep hoping that someday it might all come back around.
If one has kept up on 'the story' by googling periodically over the years, then one likely knows that it was an affair between Ross and Ed's wife that caused the schism. But that's sort of a trail-of-rumors thing and maybe not everyone knows.
Anyway, it's too bad. I've never stopped wishing in my heart-of-hearts that Ross might play with them again, because they made musical magic together. Ah, well....
GSK 82 ed and Stephanie don't have a son together, they have a daughter named Lindsey. Him and his current wife have a son named Lennon after John Lennon.
I'm pretty sure that Lindsey is their son. It's just one of those names that can go for either gender.
ja8ames your actually right they said on google it was his daughter he's dating a women by the name of Harlan Kyle.
I didn't know all this drama... shit. Ed is such a great guy. I met him after a show in Houston.
We made a movie about him
Okay, so perspective here. It's clear most of you have never been cheated on, or if you have, it wasn't with a friend. My first wife slept around on me for the last couple years of our marriage, and when I found about it I was pretty angry, but angrier still when during a period of trial separation I learned that one of the men she cheated on me with was someone I considered a friend. I later remarried, and so did she, but not to any of the men she was fucking when we were married. By the time she remarried I had let go of most of the anger toward her, primarily because of the fact that we had children together. After ten years married to the true love of my life, I can safely say I hold absolutely no enmity toward my ex-wife. My former friend she fucked? Well, I've forgiven him too, but that's not the same as being ready to be all buddy-buddy with him again. There's something about knowing that when you were in a really bad place, a guy who's supposed to have your back was instead taking advantage of it.
That would be pretty dumb to go back and hang out with the friend again imo
I love how everyone in the comments has this weird Team Ross crap happening when he hasn’t amounted to shit since parting. Ed writes the songs. Ed comes up with majority of guitar riffs. He was a great guitar player but never what made collective soul great.
Funny thing, I'd rather go see Ross at the karaoke bar.
JonHawaii2003 have fun. Let us know how it goes. Made sure you request free bird.
Don't forget to bring your girlfriend.
Lol
@@langdonalger9219 Nice :)
I love CS and they have always been one of my favorite bands. I know the rumors about Ross Childress and that’s understandable of him being fired from band. But if the rumors are true about why they fired, Joel Koche, then it’s really messed up on the bands part for this one. Joel was a great guitarist for the band and nothing against Jesse. He is just the new guy. I felt really bad for Joel when I heard he had been let go.
it's easy to see why his wife cheated on him.
With all due respect to the current player, it feels that the Ed should forgive Ross and get together again. YOLO
That 'piece of sh*t!' had tons of conviction behind it
Play wonderwall!
Or Freebird!
“…anyways, here’s the world I know”
I was there with my 5 year old kid. It was hard to hear, especially knowing what happened with Ross. I felt so bad for Ed. Any chance you got the song he played after this?
+Frank G I do, and will post!
+Frank G What the hell happened? Who was Ed so mad at? I've never seen him like this.
+Frank G So did Ross seriously go to this show and start trying to talk to the band members from the audience? I know the back-story but am trying to understand what is happening here. I've never seen Ed mad like this.
No, Ross wasn't there. Just a guy claiming that Ross should be back.
@@MrDeppness Considering that Ed is saying that Ross is down south somewhere playing karaoke, it's clear that Ross isn't at the show. This is basic comprehension skills.
I see Ross regularly.. he was the glue , song writer .. life happened
I’ve been a huge fan since day one. I’ve met both Ed and Will and Will was kind enough to talk to my wife and for about 20 minutes.
I can definitely see Ed being more edgy than Will. Let’s be honest Ed’s written all the songs and has done all the heavy lifting throughout.
I liked Shane’s style better but Jesse has done well. Shane had a heavier style but he’d be the first person to tell you that Johnny is a better drummer.
Like all things that age, time changes things. I preferred the more raw side of the band when they were younger, but almost all the great rock bands were better when they were younger - the first 3 Aerosmith albums or the first 2 Cars’ albums are good examples.
Divorce really sucks and it’s obvious Ed is still hurting to this day. Any of us who’ve been divorced can relate. You can’t bang the boss’ wife and expect repercussions. Come on folks.
their music took a nosedive after Ross left. he may have broken up Ed's family, but he also took the soul of their music with him. they replaced his edgy and creative musicianship with bland, uninspiring yawns.
Michael Weston Bullshit. The first album they did after he was gone was Youth and it’s just as good as are all the ones that have followed.
@@JCStorm76 How many certified gold and platinum albums have CS released since "Blender"?
@@samuelbasye3508 None but that doesn’t mean they’re still not good
@@JCStorm76 I never said they weren't good and I also still like them and purchase their music and go to their shows. But you are saying that they are just as good and to that I am asking you how many gold and platinum albums have they sold. You see, there is a difference between being good and being just as good. This is why records get certified in the first place.
@@samuelbasye3508 Fair call. The last one is probably my least favourite but I still like it
From the story I have heard from 2 of the 3 people involved in the whole thing, Stephanie caught Ed cheating on her for the last time and told Ross the many ways he was fucked out of money from Ed over the years and Ross left the band. I don't know why it is a sudden issue after 17 years but if everyone knew the truth everyone wouldn't have something to write about. The truth is prety cool and would make a great book but it will never be written. And if Ed has a problem with what i am saying, he knows where i work.
Dave Turner what about Stephanie and Ross having an affair? Isn’t that why Ross isn’t in the band anymore?
For a lot of us, we have no personal connection to the people and thus no way to really know what happened. Your favorite band splinters mysteriously and then ugly rumors kind of make the rounds. Just a bummer.
While the average fan will never truly know, my gut tells me there's probably some truth to what you're saying.
@@Dukeflyhawker I’m sure Ed is no saint.
@@langdonalger9219 I agree
Timestamp to the part where he kicked someone?
I don't blame Ed one iota for feeling the way he does. But it is sad that the world is a little worse without the original lineup creating music; that's not on Ed alone to fix though and he shouldn't feel guilty continuing to put out the best music he can. If there were a magic want to heal all the wounds and rifts that would be wonderful, but it's not the way life works.
I AM quite happy that Jesse seems to fit a bit better than Joel and the sound is a little closer to classic again though. That's not to hate on Joel at all, he's a plenty capable guitarist who I'm sure I would enjoy immensely in another band; he just didn't quite 'Gel' with CS.
Jesse ain’t done 💩 in this band.
ADD THIS TO SPINAL TAP MOVIE NOW!
Ed hates Ross, but is still on good terms with his ex. He has said this in interviews. I don’t get it. Why would he still have a good relationship with his ex wife if she cheated on him and left him for Ross? Makes no sense to me.
I think they have children together. Have to try to keep their mother kinda off the warpath so that she (and her attorney) at least use a bit of KY during the divorce and child support battles.
Peacock Moonlight their son is 21 now. I don’t think that matters. My guess is that since his ex isn’t with Ross anymore that helped the two of them repair their relationship.
Ed was close with Ross. I'm sure a longtime trusted friend. Ross betrayed that love and friendship. That's harder to get over than a shorter term spouse's betrayal..
I never know that Ed can be really mad like that. You do the right thing Ed.
He flips out over nothing all the fucking time. TH-cam is full of him acting like a baby.
Georgia boys got hot tempers, I'll tell you wut.
Simple Chronology the reason he's flipping out is cuz Ross the original lead guitarists had an affair with his ex wife Stephanie. Her and Todd married 3 years after her and ed divorced, they I believe had one child, her and ed had one son Lindsey, and ed has since remarried to michaline, I can never spell her name right, and they have an almost 9 year old son named Lennon he's 8 will be 9. But ed needs to get over the affair that happened 17 years ago his ex Stephanie and Ross divorced about 3 years ago. So ed the wise thing to do would not act like a sissy onstage, I get your still pissed after all these years but now that your ex wife is no longer married to Ross bring him back will, and Shane still talk to him. If you can't bring Ross back at least bring Shane back.
Simple Chronology oh really? Care to share all these other videos? There’s only one other video I know of him flipping out. Two videos is not the same as him doing it all the time. He acted like a jerk in the one with the fan who threw the water bottle, I’ll give you that, but let’s not act like he’s done this 10-20 times.
@@simplechronology2605
All the time huh?
Like that one time someone threw a water bottle at the band onstage .....and then this video.....and then.....uh...well....all the time. Just full of videos.
Maybe you're the person that people throw things at and you don't have confrontational skills to clap back
You know, I’d be pissed off too if I woke up and found out I was a member of Collective Soul.
That's funny considering they've spent their life doing what they love and making a lot of money doing it while you've spent your life miserable in your mother's basement and talking crap on the internet. Gtfo.
@@ATalkingBadger is this Ed Roland? Because he’s the only person that would defend Collective Soul. 😀
Then why are you here?
@@langdonalger9219 to make fun of Collective Soul of course. By the way, Lisa Simpson used to have a crush on you.
"But whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks heart and understanding; he who does it is destroying his own life. Wounds and disgrace will he get, and his reproach will not be wiped away. For jealousy makes [the wronged] man furious; therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance. He will not consider any ransom; neither will he be satisfied, though you offer him many gifts and bribes." Proverbs 6:32-35
King Solomon was a wise man with great proverbs that still ring true thousands of years later.
Amen, brother! I hope Ed beat Ross to a pulp.
R Kurtz now now! Violence doesn’t solve anything.
@@PreferToBeAnonymous Ed fucked around on his wife, she got best revenge, and Ed realized what was lost!
@@samuelbasye3508 I think the proverb is for people who think they can commit adultery and not suffer any consequences. If you break up someone's marriage/family, don't expect that person to still be friends with you for the rest of your life.
He didn’t break your family up. You broke your family up. Your wife wasn’t satisfied and needed a real snake, so he slipped it in, she privileged Ross to play in her playground. Ed seems pretentious.
Ouch, lol.
I'm sorry for this guy and this band ... because Colective Soul never sounded the same after they threw Ross out. Without Ross, this band sounds like any pop rock band that would do anything to stay relevant. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. Listen to CS records before and after Ross, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Ed, your wife preferred Ross :/
Ismael G Otoya Arrese she’s not with Ross anymore, so I guess she didn’t prefer either of them.
its a shame shit went down with ross like it did, wish it would’ve been someone else in the band that they could easily replace not ross who was THE big reasons CS got their killer riffs & sound
Fuck Yeah Ed!
WOW.
WE WANT ROSS!!!
NO WE DON'T!
@@Reed-Publications I mean the band was crap without Ross
@@Misnjef That's a pretty subjective opinion. I've really enjoyed the last several Collective Soul albums.
Ross would be ideal. Last few records have been absolute atrocious 💩. SWYSBC was alright as well as a lot of Joel era but sheesh, their heyday was Ross.
Lol I figured that my beloved [Ed] would have moved on with his life, since he was in a relationship with someone else during the ''Youth' era... I guess not. CS isn't the same without Ross and Shane. It's sad to see this, since I thought he was mature. I'm thankful for the illusion, though... it made me grow and cope with life as a broken teenager. Ah, well. Thanks for sharing.
l iR What? You have a kid to someone, only to find out your bandmate (and childhood friend) has cheated on your wife. You kick him out, urge your fans to understand the reasons are personal, and then spend the next 14 odd years hearing people go "Bring Ross back! Bring Ross back!". The band is definitely past its glory days, but they're doing what they want to do and that's what matters; he doesn't need to deal with haters like that. He apologized to the audience after this.
It has nothing to do with not moving on. Someone in the audience brought it up and he responded. If something like that happened to you and a stranger brought it up, you’d be pissed too.
Scott Magill yeah, these types of comments make no sense to me. I understand some people may want Ross back, but how some people can’t understand why Ed is still angry with him is amazing. Try being married and having your spouse leave you for a close friend. If you’re willing to forgive them for that, let me know. I doubt it. I really doubt it.
Lionel McLure as you might remember, I am not a CS fan by any means and I think Ed Roland is a total douchbag. But in this case, I'm in complete agreement with everything you say here and as an empathetic human being, my heart goes out to Ed. I know what that kind of pain feels like and how long it can last.
Ivar Sorensen not trying to start anything, but if you don’t like CS then why are you here posting in the video? Just curious. No disrespect meant.
Don't blame the temperature tantrum, but grow up Ed. The band is entirely yours and no one can take it away from you. You could have ignored the fan, kept your composure and played to the rest of the paying fans.
Bunty Kumar temperature tantrum?
@@langdonalger9219 Its a typo, so what?
I think this is something that the band constantly hears, and it probably gets really annoying. I don't blame Ed one bit.
So, you can throw someone out of the concert because he said something you didn't like? The guy paid his money and you've got an amplifier. WTF - play on.
Automatic Slim all I can say is I don't throw sh, scream that much of random sh, I just don't scream random sh. & I think concerts go great for me. Although, if I was there w/ my kid, idk. Maybe it would still be a cool event for her or she'd be like why'd u take me to this again?
I'm still like what you do for your music, Ed n CS...
still make a new song for the world , good lyric, good rytme,
God still be with you
Amem..
Can someone please tell me what happened exactly? I am a long time CS fan and am familiar with the whole Ross story.
Was it actually Ross that Ed kicked out? Was Ross yelling stuff at Ed from the crowd or did Ed just see him there and call him out? I would really appreciate it if someone could explain what went down.
Ross was not there.
JackB1 Ross was asked to leaved the band in 2001 after having an affair with Ed Roland's wife. They married in 2004, but I believe they are now divorced. The person in the audience was asking where Ross was. I'm sure he said other things as well, but we can't hear it on the video. Ed threw the fan out for disrespecting him and his family. Ross now plays every week in some bar in Atlanta doing covers. He hosts an open mic night. He will never come back to CS as Ed indicated in this video. "If you want to see Ross, go see him do karaoke".
So what's the story behind this. I saw them in Philly last week and it was incredible.
Ed’s pissed because Ross Childress had an affair with his now ex wife his son Lindsey Chris’s mother Stephanie who actually married ross but cheated on ross as well & they divorced not long after they married. Ross has always been the scapegoat in these situations and it’s sad, not like Ed was some kind of saint either, Ik people have said he wasn’t cheating on his wife uhh idk about that a lot of former band members talk not very kind of how Ed is he is talented but a massive prick, his ego gets in the way that’s what made Stephanie leave him was his ego and how much of a tool he is.
@@giotrapani7852 talking out of your ass once again I see.
@@langdonalger9219 do you have anything better to say to someone are you Ed Roland going by a fake name on TH-cam.
@@giotrapani7852 no, I’m just sick of you running your mouth. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@langdonalger9219 are you Ed Roland going by another name on TH-cam, cuz you seem like one angry POS You dissing ross is ridiculous and if your wondering my name is not Ross Childress. Ed is a talented prick let’s put it at that and the way they fired Joel was bulls***
Vá com calma Ed, você está muito nervoso, isso pode lhe dar um ataque cardíaco. Não é assim que as coisas são resolvidas. É uma pena que isso tenha acontecido entre você e Ross Childress, mas você tem que entender que isso foi para o seu bem e não pena do seu mal. Deus faz as coisas perfeitamente. Parece que você não manteve os ensinamentos do seu velho pai, o reverendo Roland. Se algo muito chato aconteceu foi porque alguém não merecia sua confiança e certamente não era culpa total de Ross Childress. Você deve entender que algumas situações ruins levam as pessoas mais amigáveis a cometer erros contra nós, como álcool, drogas, etc ... Não que os membros do CS usassem essas coisas. Outra coisa: o perdão sempre se encaixará nas situações mais extremas. Não odeie Ross Childress, Ed, isso só perturba a carreira de sua banda. Não ofenda Ross Childress porque ele nem estava no seu programa para se defender. Você deve usar o silêncio em resposta ao fã exaltado e não ofender o seu ex-amigo da banda. Ross Childress é um cara legal, e ele sempre foi um excelente guitarrista, o mesmo guitarrista que ajudou você a aumentar o nome de sua banda nos 5 primeiros álbuns do coletivo Soul. Não se esqueça de Ed nunca. Nós, fãs brasileiros de CS, amamos a música de sua banda e amamos o trabalho que Ross Childress também fez com você. Não importa para nós o que aconteceu nos bastidores da vida, o que realmente importa para nós é o trabalho da Alma Coletiva, bem como o trabalho de Ross Childress, Joel Kosher e outros ex-membros do CS. Nós amamos você Ed, nós amamos Ross Childress também. Espere pelo perdão de Ross e perdoe-o quando seu orgulho ferido se curar. Entenda que o que Ross fez de errado com você foi um favor para você. Hoje você tem uma linda e adorável esposa e ela parece ser compreensiva e terna para você. Ela te ama e merece seu respeito também Ed. Tenho certeza que você a ama também na mesma medida. Entenda que você não perdeu, você ganhou e Ross também do outro lado da história. Deus não constrói histórias de perdedores, apenas para os vencedores. Perdoe Ross Childress, seja dentro do seu coração e não através da sua própria boca, ou cale-se com Ross. Não guarde rancor no seu coração, não denegrir o seu ex-amigo. Aprenda a transformar seu outro rosto em seu inimigo, mas não se esqueça de que Ross nunca foi seu inimigo também. Não traga os mortos à luz porque você não é Deus. Não traga problemas antigos já enterrados meu filho! Em vez de fugir com Ross Childress por causa de um terceiro, ore por ele Ed. Ore pelo seu ex-amigo, ore por quem se atreveu a trair você ou o que aconteceu. Vá em frente com sua banda e com seu talento porque eles foram dados a você por Deus. Pare com isso, Ed Roland, você é maior do que qualquer briga estúpida com uma mulher ou mesmo por causa de dinheiro, brigas e bobagens que separa amigos e pessoas que você amou. Reconheça que Ross Childress é de fato um excelente guitarrista de rock, um excelente músico, assim como você é. Atire a primeira pedra àquele que não tem pecado, meu amado! Fique em paz Ed, fique em paz Ross, não briguem pela febre dos fãs fãs do Coletivo Soul. Isso pode ser algum conselho que seu velho pai lhe daria para Ed. Entenda isso como uma mensagem espiritual dele para você, meu amigo. do fã brasileiro de sua banda: "Não atire no Ross, ele é apenas o guitarrista da sua banda" lol! (Não atire em mim, sou apenas pianista)
Wilson Alexandre - Fundador e Dj do Fofinho Rock Club, desde 1971 do Brasil.
Ross is still living rent free, in Ed's head!
Lol
While playing covers in front of 50 people.
@@langdonalger9219 ..and content
Dude plays in small bars as an acoustic duo. I don't think Ross lives in anyone's head.
Well of course. I don’t think it would be easy to get someone... well, make that two people out of your head when they had an affair behind your back
Hey what was said that pissed off Ed ?
They asked for a former band member, who had sex with Ed's wife.
Ed had a human moment. Ross had a moment forgive him Ed! Bring him back into the fold!
neo robertson stealing away someone’s wife isn’t a human moment.
Ed Roland is a bitch.
Eric Hays thank you finally someone agrees with me
Gio Trapani why anyone would agree with you is beyond me. You’re a fucking moron.
"I love my family and I love these guys on stage." No Ed, you love yourself...As dies-hard CS fans, are we asking you to kick Jesse out of the band and throw him out on the streets???
No, absolutely not. What we are asking of you is that you appreciate what Ross did for you as a band to help you become famous. And that whatever happened in 2001 needs to stay in 2001.
This is such a garbage argument. You get involved with your singers wife and you shouldn’t expect for them to bring you back. Who cares when it happened? That’s not relevant. Also, who says Ross even wants to come back to CS?
@@langdonalger9219 Not a garbage argument at all.
@@samuelbasye3508 sure it is.
No we definitely want Jesse out. Honestly.
Some bands cringe because they're stuck with a lead singer. This, my friends, is one of them.
bobby bousche' huh? the whole band hates the person he was talking about. Don’t compare what happened here to what you’re used to seeing in other bands
SO THATS THE REAL REASON COLLECTIVE SOUL GOT RID OF ROSS CHILDESS ??
ED ROLAND IS TAKING IT REALLY PERSONAL :(
+sonic jet Are you serious? You'd take it personal too if someone broke up your family.
But its in the same context of being in a rock band , i mean personal differences aside, its still entertainment.
He had a drug problem and slept with his wife. why would you still wanna be in the same room as that person?
JerichoFPS since when did Ross have a drug problem? Shane did, which is why he was asked to leave.
He had no drug problem, if you don't know the facts don't make up shit.
Still love you ,Ed n CS...
CS has give more music in to the world...
Thanx...
I hope some day Ed will forgive Ross
neo robertson don’t count on it
Lionel McLure Ed's father was a minister so he could use those Christian influences and forgive him, now that Ross, and Stephanie are divorced it would make sense.
for fucking his wife? why???
Christians are called to forgive those who sin against them. Doesn't mean we have to like the person or accept what they did as "ok" and certainly don't have to let them back into our lives especially under those kind of circumstances. Forgiveness means we let go of it and let God handle it.
Listen to what Ed said on stage. "He's never had the balls to talk to anyone in the band". Meaning, if Ross would approach Ed about what happened in 2001, them maybe that might be the beginnings of forgiveness on Ed's part.
Can't blame Ed for losing it there. It's damned hard to forgive people in those circumstances.
Awful lot of hints, allegations, and things left unsaid. 😏
This is not Gel.
Why didn't tough guy Ed (whoever HE is) remove the heckler himself?
Yep .... stand up on stage, hide behind your guitar, bandmates, and security, and run your mouth like a 5th grader, Ed.
Because you don't know who is actually crazy out there and who isn't. No sense of going out there and being stabbed to death.
Here’s a thought, maybe don’t heckle guys on stage and none of this happens.
Ed if you see this, you don't have to apologize for anything....you're absolutely entitled to let off steam after being reminded of that shit man.
Ed, if you see this, you should apologize for being such a shit man and lying about what happened with Joel Kosche.
There you go ed!!. 👍👏
So he said Ross was a piece of poop. Why?
Something extremely personal happened between him and Ross.
Wow I wondered what happened I can't believe he did that ! I didn't even know .. but knew it had to be something bad considering how close they were..:(
Three sides to every story.
You have my respect. He is a DICK!!! You are a class act. Love all of you!!
First of all...why is anyone at a Collective Soul show?
To hear a good band?
Good for Ed! Glad Ross has been knocked down to karaoke status. Karma!!
+Krystal Marra I'm not glad....My god, the guitar playing they could have had on their new stuff would have been amazing with Ross..... It's just sad that he had to screw around with Ed's wife, who was NO angel herself, and then get kicked out of the band..... It's just too bad Ed can't get over it and make a great business decision to bring Ross back.... But, like I have always said, that's never going to happen.... so Jesse it is. I'm just glad Joel is no longer their guitar player, his leads didn't do it for me
Good business decision? WTH is wrong with you? How do you look at someone everyday that fucked your wife and ruined your marriage? Yes she was responsible too but so was he.
Right you are brother! I stop listening to CS after Blender.
Krystal Marra the only collective soul album I liked after blender were youth and rabbit. That's it. They had two good records with Joel.
You should apologize.
Lighten up Francis
MAN CS was always such a cool positive vibe no they're cranky as hell.
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Everyone in that crowd should be kicked for being at a Collective Soul concert
What an embarrassment....he's so unprofessional.....
yes, for five minutes he was human.
He got really angry and defended his current band member (who didn't deserve to be harassed for something he couldn't control), and then he swallowed his pride and apologized in front of (and to) the entire audience - all in the span of two minutes. I know people who wouldn't apologize for something they did in a week, a year, or ever. So, I thought that part was pretty professional. He didn't have to apologize, but he did. He was right to defend his band member and his frustration is certainly understandable. Some of his language may have been a bit strong, but I think that's what the apology to the crowd was about.
He was waiting for someone to bring Ross up. Bad Blood. Stole his Wife.
Alcohol ruined Ed Roland and Collective Soul.
The shittier the band, the douchier the front man.
8 No.1 hits (3 on one album), 4 platinum and 1gold album. What exactly would you consider to be a non shitty band?
@@samuelbasye3508 So... you're using popularity as a measure of quality? I guess you think Justin Bieber is a great singer.
@@nerdbot37 Ed Roland sure as hell did. He says it all of the time, as a matter of fact, when he refers to the song "Shine". Don't try to give me that indie music snobbery here either, because I am a huge fan of indie music and full well understand that bands don't necessarily need to be top 40 to be loved by many, but in the case of Ed Roland and Collective Soul, this mindset totally does not apply.
@@samuelbasye3508 I'm not saying all popular music is crap. No indie snobbery from me. There are many factors, many aspects of music that make it either quality, or enjoyable, or - ideally - both. Interesting song structures, unusual phrasing, intelligent lyrics, a great voice or engaging personality fronting it all, etc. Collective Soul have none of those things (to my ears; clearly your mileage varies; taste is subjective). They were, and seemingly remain, 90's re-hashed butt rock. Grunge-lite. Utterly useless and boring to me.
@@nerdbot37 I suppose I do have a more forgiving ear and a wider and broader range of musical acceptance then you have. 🤷🏻
All of Ed's fans love him and even now still are in disbelief! that Ross was such a dick ! They actually say this happens a lot with bands where they mess around with each other's wife's or husbands ... so very sad!! We love u Ed and band !!
Yeah Ed is such a great guy! That’s probably why he fired Joel Kosche and then issued a press release which lied and said Joel chose to leave. You rock Ed!!
does this guy flip out at every concert on someone or what.... i guess that's how he's trying to regain some notoriety...
You seriously think he flips out at every concert? Not even Axl rose does that. Don't ask dumb questions.
LOLOLOLOLOL....that singer is all butt hurt :D :D
these guys were vital for exactly 37 seconds.......in 1994.
Huh
Jesus...this band is absolutely horrible.
So why in the hell did you bother viewing the post??? Plenty of people disagree with you, as they just started another tour celebrating 25 years of music.
Vá com calma Ed, você está muito nervoso, isso pode lhe dar um ataque cardíaco. Não é assim que as coisas são resolvidas. É uma pena que isso tenha acontecido entre você e Ross Childress, mas você tem que entender que isso foi para o seu bem e não pena do seu mal. Deus faz as coisas perfeitamente. Parece que você não manteve os ensinamentos do seu velho pai, o reverendo Roland. Se algo muito chato aconteceu foi porque alguém não merecia sua confiança e certamente não era culpa total de Ross Childress. Você deve entender que algumas situações ruins levam as pessoas mais amigáveis a cometer erros contra nós, como álcool, drogas, etc ... Não que os membros do CS usassem essas coisas. Outra coisa: o perdão sempre se encaixará nas situações mais extremas. Não odeie Ross Childress, Ed, isso só perturba a carreira de sua banda. Não ofenda Ross Childress porque ele nem estava no seu programa para se defender. Você deve usar o silêncio em resposta ao fã exaltado e não ofender o seu ex-amigo da banda. Ross Childress é um cara legal, e ele sempre foi um excelente guitarrista, o mesmo guitarrista que ajudou você a aumentar o nome de sua banda nos 5 primeiros álbuns do coletivo Soul. Não se esqueça de Ed nunca. Nós, fãs brasileiros de CS, amamos a música de sua banda e amamos o trabalho que Ross Childress também fez com você. Não importa para nós o que aconteceu nos bastidores da vida, o que realmente importa para nós é o trabalho da Alma Coletiva, bem como o trabalho de Ross Childress, Joel Kosher e outros ex-membros do CS. Nós amamos você Ed, nós amamos Ross Childress também. Espere pelo perdão de Ross e perdoe-o quando seu orgulho ferido se curar. Entenda que o que Ross fez de errado com você foi um favor para você. Hoje você tem uma linda e adorável esposa e ela parece ser compreensiva e terna para você. Ela te ama e merece seu respeito também Ed. Tenho certeza que você a ama também na mesma medida. Entenda que você não perdeu, você ganhou e Ross também do outro lado da história. Deus não constrói histórias de perdedores, apenas para os vencedores. Perdoe Ross Childress, seja dentro do seu coração e não através da sua própria boca, ou cale-se com Ross. Não guarde rancor no seu coração, não denegrir o seu ex-amigo. Aprenda a transformar seu outro rosto em seu inimigo, mas não se esqueça de que Ross nunca foi seu inimigo também. Não traga os mortos à luz porque você não é Deus. Não traga problemas antigos já enterrados meu filho! Em vez de fugir com Ross Childress por causa de um terceiro, ore por ele Ed. Ore pelo seu ex-amigo, ore por quem se atreveu a trair você ou o que aconteceu. Vá em frente com sua banda e com seu talento porque eles foram dados a você por Deus. Pare com isso, Ed Roland, você é maior do que qualquer briga estúpida com uma mulher ou mesmo por causa de dinheiro, brigas e bobagens que separa amigos e pessoas que você amou. Reconheça que Ross Childress é de fato um excelente guitarrista de rock, um excelente músico, assim como você é. Atire a primeira pedra àquele que não tem pecado, meu amado! Fique em paz Ed, fique em paz Ross, não briguem pela febre dos fãs fãs do Coletivo Soul. Isso pode ser algum conselho que seu velho pai lhe daria para Ed. Entenda isso como uma mensagem espiritual dele para você, meu amigo. do fã brasileiro de sua banda: "Não atire no Ross, ele é apenas o guitarrista da sua banda" lol! (Não atire em mim, sou apenas pianista) Wilson Alexandre - Fundador e Dj do Fofinho Rock Club, desde 1971 do Brasil.
Ross foi foda.. Na banda queria demais ver retorno dele na banda..momento muito difícil