What WeakAuras are killing your WoW FPS?

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  • I show you biggest cause of fps drops (on good PCs) in raids and M+ and in general for users using weak aura packs.
    I will do a follow up video in future on optimizing fps on mid to lower end PCs.
    This video I wanted to get out asap cause it kills fps on ALL pcs from low all the way to the highest spec pcs. Guilds in RWF were even dropping to 10-20fps on Pcs with 4090s and latest cpu and this was found to be cause.
    Test WA:
    wago.io/KillMyFPS
    Script that can auto scan auras for any models in use:
    /run for _,d in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays) do if d.subRegions then for _,sr in ipairs(d.subRegions) do if sr.type=="submodel" then print(d.id) end end end end
    #worldofwarcraft #mmorpg #gaming

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  • @AJx868
    @AJx868 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +985

    Asmonsilver is here

    • @arnoldchand4144
      @arnoldchand4144 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      lmao the best one yet

    • @FireSignd
      @FireSignd 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

      More like Asmondiamond or Asmonplatinum since he actually adds something valuable to the community

    • @kgtrees2423
      @kgtrees2423 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@FireSignd you clearly werent around when asmon played wow huh

    • @WrightAid
      @WrightAid 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😭😭😭😭

    • @khiryislive
      @khiryislive 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YOU WIN

  • @YoungsterJoey151
    @YoungsterJoey151 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    Glad to see someone making videos like this again. True wow help is so few and far between.

    • @BigDaddyWes
      @BigDaddyWes 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Totally agree. Too many people just expect you to know everything and shame you when you don't.

  • @Filipedanielomg
    @Filipedanielomg 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

    Thank you. My boy Addongold never fails to come through with the addon secret tech

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      That's a new one. I've been called budget or walmart asmon or linus, but not addongold yet :D

    • @RobK769
      @RobK769 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      made my day 😂

    • @vaels5682
      @vaels5682 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Addongold is the winner

  • @diddedidde4799
    @diddedidde4799 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    What a king! Thank you mate, I will be sure checking this. I usually dont lag but sometimes the FPS drops a bit and its frustrating

  • @empty_rivers
    @empty_rivers 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Hey that's my messages you screenshotted!! Look ma, I'm on TV!!!!
    I've been on a huge bender this last month or so hunting down all sorts of performance problems in all sorts of surprising places. This model bug is the biggest one, but also I fixed that weakauras was using several times as much memory in its codegen as it needed to, which contributed to some stuttering when a WA load. There was even a bug i found with the DynamicCam addon which caused it to scan your entire mount journal every time you were mounted and any player in earshot gained or lost any buff or debuff (think about that one encounter in dawnbreaker dungeon where you have to fly away 😅), that one was crashing my fps so hard i couldn't fly inside of dornogal!
    I'm really glad you posted this, afenar's aura pack uses model effects somewhat liberally and I know it's very popular.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah I wanted to get it out there to users, and also to blizzard. I sent video to my friend on engine team to see what's up. maybe he'll even use your test aura :D
      Another thing I think is a factor is the reported GROUP_ROSTER_UPDATE spam happening in instances. even when no one is joining or leaving group. it no doubt is having performance impact on base ui and addons performing any update code on this event.

    • @3idjn7
      @3idjn7 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you know if any of the dungeon or raid weak auras are cursed like this as well? Also does the sound implementations for weak auras have any additional loads since some auras I see are phattt asf but I'm not capable of figuring anying out.

    • @benjaminr8863
      @benjaminr8863 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @empty_rivers I only use Afenar's WA & have a lot of performance issue. Do you know any WA template's that do not have this problem ?

  • @goncalofreitas1513
    @goncalofreitas1513 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey man don't mind the comments!
    Incredible video, thank you for informing the community of this. This is a very common issue that afects many players, myself included. Even having a mid tier PC, i wasnt expecting to have such a mediocre performance during certain fights/zones. I didn't really understood what a "Model" is or what it does, but I''m thankful to know that there can be an external cause to blame for the sometimes bad performance of the game.

  • @bertsvello
    @bertsvello 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dude, your content is absolutely golden! Helped me out tremendously, can't thank you enough!

  • @IlluviAsh
    @IlluviAsh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +106

    Would probably rename the video to "why weakaura is killing your fps in WoW" or something, as the title you have now makes it seems like you are going to go over the in-game graphics options.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      That's fair. I'll probably record a follow up right away tonight to go over graphics settings and another UI bug that are also causing fps issues.
      I do plan to go into graphics options. But this particular issue was in fact leading cause of fps drops amongst most raiders i talked to. graphics settings are more for lower end PCs and I did try to emphasize here this particular issue was dragging down even best of PCs (and of course it's also really dragging down lower and even mid range ones).

    • @turtvaiz
      @turtvaiz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos Can you spoil this UI bug shortly?

    • @ACE-yg6hz
      @ACE-yg6hz 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mysticalos have you had any reports of the game freezing up completely for 10-20 seconds?! Happens to me in Delves only, and has caused me many deaths. This expac has been the most technically buggy one for me, so many issues and poor performance.

  • @VladsBackupAccount
    @VladsBackupAccount 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +137

    If you feel a bit lazy, you could run a small snippet like this directly into your chat and it should spit out any WeakAuras you have installed that use models:
    */run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end*

    • @YoutubeMyn
      @YoutubeMyn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      VIP

    • @Cyprien0
      @Cyprien0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's absolutely perfect, many thanks!

    • @FireSignd
      @FireSignd 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@Impuracle If nothing happens, you dont use any WAs that use models.

    • @gabber_
      @gabber_ 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      legendary comment

    • @okami5976
      @okami5976 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Please dont spread this bad script, this only checks if there is a model in the WA, this isnt checking if the model is actually enabled. Here is a fixed script you can use:
      /run for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if a.regionType=="model"and a.model_visible~=false then print(n)end for _,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"and s.model_visible~=false then print(n)end end end

  • @ailuropanda5449
    @ailuropanda5449 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Randomly popped in my YT feed and saved me 140 fps
    Thx man for real

  • @berkan54
    @berkan54 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Your delivery and teaching skills are really good. What a good and useful video, appreciate it alot.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks

  • @crookedlid9653
    @crookedlid9653 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    bro looks like Connor McDavid and Asmongold had a love child, insane, I love it

    • @jayryan1956
      @jayryan1956 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Lmao I was like dam mcdavid finally found his true passion

  • @Kemyo0
    @Kemyo0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks a lot - this is very nice i'll share it to raiders
    We need to spread the idea that until models are fixed (if they ever will be), people who makes weakauras should avoid making models

  • @Corrie948
    @Corrie948 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for bringing attention to this bug and also for your amazing work with dbm. Hope you are doing alright despite the hurricane situation.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      most recovered from hurricane now. was out for 9 days 15 hours and 13 minutes

  • @christofferolofsson7908
    @christofferolofsson7908 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im subscribing to this man for this, you just saved me 40 in-combat fps, and im super thankful!🙏🏻

  • @AnaNotSoElegant
    @AnaNotSoElegant 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holy crap this explains so much! Thank you, I was concerned this issue came from a GPU I got recently.
    Can only pray Blizzard listens to the feedback

  • @puntacana7550
    @puntacana7550 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Im so glad that this video isn’t just another of those “turn your graphics down” to fix the fps video. Lol very informative thx Asmongold!

  • @Croco-booy
    @Croco-booy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    went rfom 30-50 fps in busy dornogal to 70 fps cuz of this! thank you sir

  • @arlenenolte8475
    @arlenenolte8475 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, I have had this problem!! I have a nice computer but was worried I would have to get a new one. Thank you this is so helpful

  • @mysticalos
    @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I'm saying "Model" . Funny story to this. I was always pronouncing it "mod el" like you would any time you read word with model airplane or 3d model etc. But people kept correcting me saying "it's not same word. it's mode el here" so in video I changed pronunciation to "mode el" but maybe most of world was reading it mod el too :D I still don't know what context is correct for THIS usage of word to be honest but I should have just stuck with "mod el" since most (like me) just have always read/understood it that way. :D

    • @noneedforid
      @noneedforid 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      I kept hearing the word "modal" and it was confusing the hell out of me. And then I figured out you were talking about models.

    • @riotinprogress
      @riotinprogress 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The way you're currently pronouncing it is how the British pronounce it. In America we say "maa-dl"
      th-cam.com/video/DTf5m80FZRc/w-d-xo.html

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@riotinprogress Kinda fits then. DBMs default voice pack is British Amy :D.

    • @ldjg2002-t6o
      @ldjg2002-t6o 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@riotinprogress What? i thought it was an american thing, ive never heard any brit say it that way :)

    • @TiltedScotsman
      @TiltedScotsman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@riotinprogress that is not how we say Model in Britain lmao, its the same as you would say model airplane or whatever in american english. I've never heard someone pronounce it as Mode-al over here

  • @AdelphiaaWoW
    @AdelphiaaWoW 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The Asmon bullying is wild, this video is insane value, subbed! you taking it really well though haha (the trolling)

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      honestly see the parallel. there is actually way more than you know. We have many personality differences, but quite a few parallel too, especially with life experiences. Plus I am another balding middle aged red head with a beard. Although i think he pulls off long hair and pony tale better. I keep my hair short despite how much more it shows when i look down, because it's lower maintenance.

  • @SWHHReice
    @SWHHReice 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for helping with the visibility of this issue Omegal

  • @ford50stang
    @ford50stang 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video, will definitely have to check my WA’s tomorrow. Liked and subscribed! Cheers!

  • @bzmotoninja83
    @bzmotoninja83 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good lord, thank you for this. My pc is no slouch but, in raid, especially in larger groups, id go from 250fps to many seconds per frame.

  • @BeowulfGaming
    @BeowulfGaming 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You earned a sub, i went into TWW with ElvUI and some WAs, i had 45 fps in dungeons, it was driving me crazy, i tried everything, then i got rid of ElvUI and i am back to 120 fps, but i get stutters in some dungeons or fights, i think its the models, i was using one with it so i deleted it.
    I think something similar was being run with ElvUI, its insane that that interface overhaul halved my FPS, so i presume it had similar elements that the game was not in conflict with just like the models.

    • @YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt
      @YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm kinda shocked people use ElvUi still. Blizzard completely reworked the Ui and made it fully customizable in the base game years ago.

    • @EBINHD
      @EBINHD 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      elvui is great. doesnt really affect my fps at all

  • @asikora85
    @asikora85 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GJ man! keep the good work. I recently change my pc and game on raids running like dog shit. part of it were old addons. I am glad the problem has been issued my blizzard, since wow is only game I know where you bought a fresh pc and it still doesnt not work as intended. I probablu could lunch Wukong no maximum setup and it should run smoothly.

  • @tejsfrank8554
    @tejsfrank8554 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome to see a fellow mac gamer, and nice find on the bug.
    But your machine is running into really high temps 93C at 7:18 that could also be causing performance issues as your machine will throttle at these levels.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      it wont' get much hotter then that, and it's only that high during video record due to maxing out literally ALL the cores for both the game AND encoder simultaneously :D

  • @bruddah_
    @bruddah_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did heroic earlier and on the first pull, my PC about died for like 4 seconds. This not normally! Afenar definitely getting in my guts with his WA pack.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you probably want to troubleshoot addons and WAs

  • @NexxQ
    @NexxQ 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Asmonfromwish really important topic! thank you for highlighting it!

  • @murrayfallen1424
    @murrayfallen1424 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    big thanks dude. went from around 30ish fps to 70fps in raid!

  • @Nuray653
    @Nuray653 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THANK YOU DUDE ! I WAS BECOMING CRAZY

  • @oriongaby
    @oriongaby 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My man, earned a sub from me with this video.

  • @JarsKISS73
    @JarsKISS73 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If the "models" are causing a problem with WeakAuras, they must the causing problems in other addons too. I'm not exactly sure what those "models" are from the engine point of view but one thing immediately came to mind: player/target portraits in unit frame addons (like Shadowed Unit Frames).

    • @Grandy_UiD
      @Grandy_UiD 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point, I was thinking what other addons I use might use models and SUF didn't even come to mind. Gonna check that as soon as I am home.

    • @drey934
      @drey934 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can confirm that SUF 3D unit frames 100% tanks FPS. turn them off.

    • @Grandy_UiD
      @Grandy_UiD 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@drey934 Hm, tried it and for me the difference is negligible.

  • @amvmix6750
    @amvmix6750 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This game should run on a calculator at 60 fps idk how they managed to fck it up this bad

  • @Qstorm88
    @Qstorm88 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video thanks!

  • @dnddelinquent
    @dnddelinquent 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro wtf. I was having this issue and YT popped it up on my recommended... All praise the YT algorithm

  • @TRU3OGR3
    @TRU3OGR3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do Icons/Progress bars/Prog textures/Text etc… count as models in this context? Or are we specifically taking 3D model auras?
    But even in palace with no addons go test FPS. This is a great and intelligent video on the issue though. TY for the vid though, glad people are bringing the game’s performance up.

  • @Vineandrade45
    @Vineandrade45 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    here the big fps drop is when parasites spawns on ovinax, maybe platter has something like that

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Nameplates require a lot of computation and plater is notoriously inefficient.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah nameplate mods can be heavy. but i actually only drop to like. 53fps in worst of it on that fight. with quazii player profile. but i also remove some things from his profile i dont use. lighter is better so i have a habit of killing off scripts i dont need.

    • @stefanzdravkov5688
      @stefanzdravkov5688 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mysticalos hey man, could you share with us what things i might disable on quazi profile to see some improvements ? I really like his profile ,but it seems like plater is doing some shenanigans

    • @olawfhjorth9985
      @olawfhjorth9985 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can try to increase the update time of your plates. Some external profiles use 0.10. I changed it to 0.25 and got less stutter. Also increasing update time on Details/Skada can help

    • @lyraerr
      @lyraerr 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@olawfhjorth9985 elvui got this option?

  • @jules3431
    @jules3431 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    geez finally, thanks for your work! im running 30 fps in raid on a 7800x3d and it's driving me nuts. i hope they can fix it fast

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let me know if change makes a positive change. there are other issues in raid too but i think they are topics for a diff video follow up to this one. But this one was most glaring among most raiders that i've seen since these days it's common place to run many raid and class aura packs that use models

  • @fonsu910
    @fonsu910 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That's really strange. I added a bunch of models for testing, but it didn't affect the FPS in my game like yours at all. I have a 4070 and an Intel Core i5-11400F, but the maximum FPS I can achieve in this game is between 80-100. 30-50 on Dornagal. none of my weakauras have those models btw

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      perhaps they weren't visible/loaded when added? might also just be how much spare load there is. i ran a situation where I made sure the load was maxed out before adding, so it would drop performance. but if say you are capped at 120, but have power for 140, then dropping fps by 10 wouldn't drop em at all if you weren't hitting your peak in first place? just requires more testing.

    • @ysxbel
      @ysxbel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      for progress bars it doesnt affect my FPS until the progress is visible

    • @Shamaniukas
      @Shamaniukas 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So what a suggestion delete these Wa ? Some are useful

    • @fonsu910
      @fonsu910 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Shamaniukas You can safely delete the models. Some weakauras with models do not affect performance or visual issues with the weakaura.

    • @Shamaniukas
      @Shamaniukas 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fonsu910 funny thing i dont see models :D like in videos :)

  • @RolandTschiah
    @RolandTschiah 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is huge, thank you for this video

  • @seansotir
    @seansotir 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks a lot for the research and video, it really helped increase my fps, just for the research I am using as well 5800x3d. Also by any chance would plater also affect?

  • @serogriff
    @serogriff 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I encountered a similar problem in DF, when my pala WA used fx models for holy power. But I think, that is not the only problem. When I using a lowers render scale (any other than 100%, for example 98%) with FidelityFX filter for better final rendering, the game is also being lagging if any of model are renders in UI layer: WA, overlay characters on frames, character screen, etc... Also, modern water shader with full reflection also being lagging, lol. So, the way for me in this case - set render scale to 100% or turn off any models in UI and set the lowest preset for water. I distinctly remember how the WOTLK version started to slow down in the middle of the expansion after the release of the next content patch and the update of the game engine, so this problem are common for all wow versions right now.

  • @musicenjoyer
    @musicenjoyer 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    dude incredible subbed holy hell thank you so much just a godsend im out of words LOL

  • @GaeFootballClub
    @GaeFootballClub 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    evil asmongold be like: let me help you enjoy wow

  • @denumerable
    @denumerable 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fellow Mac gamers UNITE! I’m here from my M3 Max and I love it for WoW. Subbed!

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yep. beast machine.

  • @Sapzilla
    @Sapzilla 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Appreciate the info bro

  • @Dene181
    @Dene181 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting find, didn't do much for be, but good to know! Funny that you mention that the problem comes more from Blizzard's side, I can totally see that being the case. If you play epic bgs like Ashran nowadays, you see how BAD the performance is. My PC is damn old now, but the hardware (with less Ram and worse gpu) ran Ashran pretty good/ok in WoD, but now it's a pixel show.
    The environment and graphics of the bg did not change at all from WoD to now, yet there is an extreme hit in fps and performance there. I assume it is mostly because of newer spell/character models and partly because of nameplates. But what we could assume from Blizz nowadays, they test stuff with 0 addons and say it's fine. lol 🤷‍♂

  • @Nohandlethankyou1
    @Nohandlethankyou1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What should I do if Im lagging on a 5600 & 6750xt? I want to mention I use 0 addons at the moment. Change cpu to 5800x3d because my 5600 cant handle cpu bound Dornogol?
    Also, I’ll use your settings today. From that video where you explain I shouldnt use max background / foreground fps if my amd is using freesync. My display is also a 1440p lg ultragear that has gsync on it (freesync compatible) and I had all 3 fps settings set to 200 😂

  • @drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434
    @drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video Asmonsilver

  • @nev_wow
    @nev_wow 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great service to the community

  • @ZomgZomg007
    @ZomgZomg007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What model Weakaura is everyone running on brood? Because none of my weakauras run it, and it drops to 30-35fps on heavy aoe in mythic, i've found lossless scaling to help with this, but i don't think any of the weakaurs already run model feature for this boss, which means the issue is still the 20+year old engine.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the engine has been overhauled over the years. but it still has work to go that keeps being blocked. other causes are elvui or tukui or player or details for some users. depending on profiles used and settings. likely models again

  • @russmanYT
    @russmanYT 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this started late in dragonflight, after one of the patches i had absolutely garbage fps and it's because my rage bar was using a model to make it animated. I purged all the models from my auras and boom, fps returned.

  • @milad-kh892
    @milad-kh892 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very helpfull... thanks mate cheers

  • @damid
    @damid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the info

  • @Andrew-qq8fb
    @Andrew-qq8fb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know if it's related, but I noticed that the addon "LoseControl" is a big culprit of FPS loss.

  • @BertFaceCat
    @BertFaceCat 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much!!

  • @XPercussion
    @XPercussion 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More people need to know this!

  • @petarmaras6807
    @petarmaras6807 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A bad weak aura can ruin everything. Me, personally, didn't have issue like that. Even with a high end PC I would be hitting 15 fps during raid pulls. What I've found out is that Details is using all of yours resources during such situations. For me, increasing the interval speed to 2 made me not have any FPS issues in any situation.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yep, I cover this in follow up video i uploaded couple hours ago. :D completely walk through to that setting and everything :)

    • @petarmaras6807
      @petarmaras6807 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos Good!

  • @whereisthesurvivalhunter9525
    @whereisthesurvivalhunter9525 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew Weakaura was doing all this FPS problem, also the long loading screens.
    The only fix i've found was to remove some WA's but it's not always enough because i''m heavily dependent on them.
    The other day i tried to do a LFR raid, and i was at 8fps the whole time... kinda crazy knowing i got a Ryzen 12cores and a RX6750XT that should be able to give way more fps...

  • @waencirion
    @waencirion 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very useful!

  • @GaavWoW
    @GaavWoW 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yo its ur boi Asmonbronze here and today we gonna talk about the FPS drop from WeakAuras...

  • @syriek
    @syriek 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great insights, thank you

  • @McKadesArKade
    @McKadesArKade 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    subbed thanks for the video

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the sub!

  • @LouSassole
    @LouSassole 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So I don’t even have WeakAuras downloaded. I use ElvUi. I however am having this same problem with my FPS tanking. So what is the play if you don’t even use / have WA downloaded and are still having this problem? Thanks.

  • @Enratic
    @Enratic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My main thing was the raytracing option. FPS only dropped in highly populated areas. Turning off raytracing solved all my issues.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that'd be highly demanding for sure, especially in high pop areas

  • @cypheredtv1667
    @cypheredtv1667 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    who is eggtender? how did we get this name wrong so many times?
    However, thanks for the info I let my guild know. Keep it up sir.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he was originally called that on beta before being renamed to broodtwister, the old name stuck.

  • @marinosvlachos1458
    @marinosvlachos1458 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a question regarding overclocked cpus. I have recently upgraded my ryzen 5700X to an overclocked 5700X3d version. My GPU is the AMD Radeon 6700XT. In raid when there are 25+ people my FPS drop to the dirt from like 140 to 20-35 FPS at best regardless if I'm using the standard blizzard UI or ElvUI. Is the overclocking affecting wow negatively in your opinion? I don't know what to do since my setup is not old and still have this FPS issues in raid. Any tip would be appreciated.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if anything over clocking usually helps unless it’s not a stable one and maybe you’re hitting thermal limits and throttling.

    • @marinosvlachos1458
      @marinosvlachos1458 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos thank u for the reply.

  • @danieltodd9038
    @danieltodd9038 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isn't the primary purpose of weakauras is to show you information in model form?? I have a pretty good computer and my FPS drops bad in 30 man raids.
    Was wondering if DBM may affect FPS???

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      DBM shouldn't affect fps due to model issue anyways. Bars all use textures only. and weak auras have that option too (to use textures instead). but you're right that you SHOULD be able to use models without issues, that's a new bug since TWW prepatch.

  • @ocelotl23
    @ocelotl23 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ty so much asmonbronze, i was getting crazy i thought it was time to get a new gpu

  • @blazzerex
    @blazzerex 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    New Asmongold has surfaced. Brace yourselves.

    • @fus7646
      @fus7646 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Finally... Bmongold

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      haha. there is some similarity between us for sure. especially the balding part. i also had messed up teeth but got those fixed at least when dental issues got real bad.

    • @deepzz4056
      @deepzz4056 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nailed it

    • @dflowers6771
      @dflowers6771 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      its like asmongold but helpful, knowledgeable and enthusiastic

    • @窃·格瓦拉
      @窃·格瓦拉 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dflowers6771 thats exactly how the young asmongold used to be

  • @vicez_
    @vicez_ 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate the video immensely! It was very hard to listen to, though, because you pronounce 'Model' as if it were the word 'Modal'. It should be pronounced like "maw-dle."

  • @bejoyrn9a
    @bejoyrn9a 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Allthough this is some nice info for people unaware, the script is kinda missleading. Many weakauras have models assigned to them. This doesnt however mean they are enabled, which this script doesnt check.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      true. currently it doesn’t identify enabled va not.

  • @jabiralmaazmi
    @jabiralmaazmi 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you asmonsilver for the guide

  • @zacharybryant3865
    @zacharybryant3865 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is definitely something that plagued me in DF (idk exactly when, but it triggered sometime during that). And it hits in such strange places. Alterac Valley? No issues. Southshore vs Tarren Mill brawl? absolutely tanks. Not sure if these are related to the WeakAuras still but man... Can't wait to go through my stupid amount of WAs and find the show models and see if this helps.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let us know results :D

    • @zacharybryant3865
      @zacharybryant3865 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately wasn’t my issue - none of my WAs use models. I see you’ve posted 2 additional videos on the issue and I’ll dig into those another time. Big thanks for figuring this stuff out!

  • @arnoldchand4144
    @arnoldchand4144 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    thank you brother this saved my gameplay experience

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you saw an improvement, curious what it was.

  • @Spiffo0
    @Spiffo0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    WeakAuras seem to be fine for me, it's Plater that's been killing my FPS more than anything this expansion. Using any plater at all just has huge drops

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I get expected drop from plater but it's not much. I use quazii profile though and disable scripts I don't use. mostly just use it for his mob coloring in M+. but yeah nameplates in general one of most demanding mods.

  • @jackall114
    @jackall114 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not only weakauras, any addon that has a 3d model of some sort, i use shadowunitframes, one day with my gf pc, which has the same spec cpu and graphics cards as mine, i noticed my fps way higher than with my pc on the same zone, after much trial and error i found that the 3d models for player, target and party was the culprit of my lower fps.

  • @darcraven01
    @darcraven01 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hmmm..... i dont use weak auras. only addons i have running consistantly is tomtom and healbot (and even healbot is "disabled" on most my characters since most arent healers).. either of them is causing model issues?

  • @ZomgZomg007
    @ZomgZomg007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    one day blizzard will assign 2 dedicated cores or multi cores for addon calcluation, right now everything loads on one thread...and 20 years later....we are in a world with multiple cores that WoW still doesn't use properly

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that was supposed to happen with df pre patch. it got canceled because execs and shareholders wanted a q4 bonus

  • @markuslc1888
    @markuslc1888 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a friend of mine said, there are almost no weakauras with models in it, he has checked after watching this video, which is sad, i hoped it's gonna help 😢

  • @AntGsz94
    @AntGsz94 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dare u to say model one more time ..amazing video none the less

  • @Dragonking1984
    @Dragonking1984 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does this model issue exclusive to WA? Or does it effect other addon's as well? Also I've been getting a lot of random disconnects since the start of TWW sometimes the game will have massive input lag before rubber banding & other times it will just random boot me out & with the generic wow error code & i have to hit the reconnect button & log back into my character.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it affects other addons too, but which ones hard to say. random disconnects though likley not related to fps or addons unless you're freezing up.

    • @Dragonking1984
      @Dragonking1984 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos Well i am having freeze up's but only on occasion It's mostly just random disconnects. Either way this is good information to have

  • @hedroxthelegend
    @hedroxthelegend 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just saw your video and I'd like to say that I have a model on every single spell and bar xD I do not have actionbars, only weakauras, however I'm tanking the FPS with my 4090 and 7950x3d, so yeah. xD However, two days ago I got a huge micro-stuttering and FPS boost, not sure if somebody at the dev team has fixed something...

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      over weekend no one was working, but on engine team especially person I regularly talk to is actually on vacation, and if it was anyone likely to make fix it would have been them so coincidence? Ghost in machine? :D

    • @hedroxthelegend
      @hedroxthelegend 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mysticalos I've spent more than 80h developing that setup, honestly I don't wanna get rid of the models, since they look really cool how I designed them already. I might do a clean addons install, just wanted to ask, since I haven't done this since new xpack came out - is this how you do a clean addons install -
      I put .old to the game files, start the game, and paste everything from the .old folders to the newly created ones?

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      most just rename entire interface folder when trying to redo their ui, and if it doesn't jive, just can rename it back.
      if you mean wipe saved variables too, can just go into wtf folder then account then there are two types of savedvariables folders. the one in account folder, and then another in each characters folder (for account wide variables and char specific viarables) and those folders can be renamed or moved out.

    • @hedroxthelegend
      @hedroxthelegend 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos Cheers! Btw, have you experimented with more models? I'm using only 1 model, which is from the afenar addons back in DF, and the FPS decrease for the whole pack is like 20fps, but it's been like forever when using WeakAuras either way, unless I'm using default action bars.

  • @GeorgMaUlWurf
    @GeorgMaUlWurf 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    for me it was nerubar palace weakaura pack it caused 25fps drop outside of the raid just enabling this aura (with the green eye button in WA)

  • @5133937
    @5133937 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you run that script? I tried putting it in a WoW macro and also importing into Weakauras and both failed.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      just paste copy and paste it to chat

  • @foreignerthethird7045
    @foreignerthethird7045 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does exist some addon that will manage which addons will run in dungeon, in open world or raid enviroment? for example when i have normal graphic settings for open world and m+, and then separate for raid, i want only few addons to run in raid automatically ?

  • @Kemyo0
    @Kemyo0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It seems the weakauras package we're using for raid (we got method & northern sky) don't use models
    However i remember clearly losing fps on Heroic week on Ovinax - And during Ptr it was an absolute nightmare
    I wonder if it was something else or if it was Models weakauras as well doing that (could be just nameplates)
    Would love to see people check Platers as well - i feel like nameplates and plater cause fps drops as well

  • @stevekarvo6299
    @stevekarvo6299 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you want a visual representation then is there a way around this? e.g. i want my spells to show up and such. I've noticed it occurs for icons too not as bad but it still happens....

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      use texture or icon. there will always be some impact but it shouldn't be nearly as bad as models, unless you use a lot. at end of day you still want to make sure you're using only want you need and culling stuff you no longer need. using smart load conditions so when you don't need x it isn't loaded. and if you are making your own you're trying to use built in triggers when possible over writing custom ones that use more cpu.

  • @nuggyfresh6430
    @nuggyfresh6430 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not to put too fine a point on it but I've noticed having an X3D CPU is amazing in Wow. Something to do with the sheer amount of space and textures and addons, the X3D architecture really owns with it. I know that buying a new CPU isn't exactly a great answer, but you can get a first gen 5800X3D and it works with the older AMD chipsets that a lot of people already have. Cheers (obviously you focused more on software which makes sense)

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      amd been killing it over intel lately.

    • @nuggyfresh6430
      @nuggyfresh6430 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos This is for sure! It's usually a good idea to buy AMD in general, but for whatever reason a lot of people don't understand that A) The X3D architecture allows performance in MMOs that far surpass normal processors and B) The 5800X3D can be used on old format AMD boards so it's a relatively cheap-ish upgrade. Anyways. Have a good day brother! Thanks for fighting the good fight, I know a lot of people are suffering with their FPS in TWW right now

    • @nuggyfresh6430
      @nuggyfresh6430 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And just to be extra clear, the X3D allows good fps in scenarios that would choke anything else, even with a top of the line card, since its bottlenecking the CPU specifically, so you can't just like, get a 4090 and solve problems that way, even though it does help.

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Quite true. wow is heavily cpu bottlenecked. in fact I've seen PCs with a new cpu and old gpu get better fps in raids than pcs with fantastic gpu but cpu that's 4 years old. cpu matters so much. it's actually often first upgrade i recommend to people because you can always turn graphics settings down, but you can never overcome a cpu bottleneck even if graphics settings are on a 1.

    • @nukezzuu2567
      @nukezzuu2567 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The problem is now 5800X3D is now End Of Life, and retailers who still have stock are charging more than a 7800X3D. Ive been looking as i have a 5900X in my system but dont take advantage of all the cores since getting a separate workstation supplied by my employer. Your only option for a 5800X3D now is on the used market and the gamble begins...
      I have my CPU paired with a 2070 Super (so not new new but should be enough for WoW) and yes in raid encounters and Dornogal my FPS tanks to 29-30fps on 1440p. Have gone to the lengths of reinstalling windows/wow/addons/weakauras/video settings etc etc and trying to keep it minimal. I'm definitely convinced there needs to be a look at the engine and how its interacting with different CPU manufacturers, the definitely need to bite the bullet and implement proper multi-core support

  • @Spanakopitaa
    @Spanakopitaa 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could this be related to ElvUI's fps drop? Do we know if they use models in their code?

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm not really sure, but i actually have a video going up soon discussing elvui and other addons that were brought up.

  • @simonzendel1122
    @simonzendel1122 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll try this later as I have a custom built system to play wow on and for the first time ever I suffer fps issues. To the point I am considering whether or not I can mythic raid. This could be the reason.

  • @MORGATH99
    @MORGATH99 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is your glove in your right hand a medical thing ? ( if so can you share details ) or just something you like ?

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes. compression gloves for arthritis. they really help. reason it’s right hand only is because that’s mouse hand. the one that needs it most

    • @MORGATH99
      @MORGATH99 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos thanks for the reply i think im in the early stages of arthritis ill look into those gloves thanks again

    • @MORGATH99
      @MORGATH99 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos is there any brand you recommend ?

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      off amazon i just subscribe and save with the dr frederick’s compression gloves. make sure you size em correctly. if you use em daily you’ll need to replace probably every 3-4 weeks.

  • @Neonvvvv
    @Neonvvvv 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey do you happen to know if the the model being checked to show makes a difference or not?

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That I don't know.

  • @matthewburn4900
    @matthewburn4900 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This mythicalos nerding out in front of asmongold might break the internet

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We've talked before. probably a video out there somewhere where we talked about private auras.

  • @b9ty
    @b9ty 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are addons like Masque or something like Clean Icons also affected? (textures =/ models I guess, but still curious...)

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      textures shouldn’t be impacted with same severity. of course every addon takes a little but it shouldn’t be such an extreme

  • @sfarsitulumi
    @sfarsitulumi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't have huge fps issues but I do have some models on my weakauras. I'll remove them to see the difference. Hopefully this helps my busted ass guild

  • @KokoTrQl
    @KokoTrQl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've just tried putting the /run command nothing is happening while next to that I asked to 5 friends trying it and for them, a window is popping saying you are gonna run a script .... and need to accept. Any help please ?

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      first time you run a script you have to authorize it

    • @KokoTrQl
      @KokoTrQl 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos Problem is I've never had to authorize and that's the first time i'm running script

  • @deadsyt
    @deadsyt 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a 5800x3d and a 6900xt and im having fps issues using atrocity UI and that have only 1 model on entitire UI. Still having FPS issues on high quantity of mobs

    • @mysticalos
      @mysticalos  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The comments have brought up an interesting data point. most users having fps issues no matter what, are using 5800x3d . I'm actually gonna pass that on for blizzard to test

    • @deadsyt
      @deadsyt 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticalos i guess thats going to be a amd issue, i've seem more decents CPU like 7800x3d too maybe is a 3d issue ?

    • @xxgeimxx
      @xxgeimxx 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Im running 1700x and having same frame drops during same fights. rest of game running smoothy

    • @deadsyt
      @deadsyt 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xxgeimxx Yeah u really can see the issue only on combat

    • @zargotkrax
      @zargotkrax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@deadsyt me and 2 guildmates also have 7800 x3d and our fps seem to be fine (we have stable fps on mythic broodtwister ovi'nax which might be the laggiest fight in a long time).
      but keep in mind that I'm playing on the lowest raid graphics since I don't care about graphics while i'M raiding.
      that said on this fight I had some fps problem when the adds spawned and for that I "made" a plater profile which disabled the nameplate for the small adds (because there are like 10-15 on the first set ). I also modified details update interval to 3 second.
      afaik the game runs better with a cpu that has good l3 cache (which is supposedly true for most if not all games but especially true for wow)
      other than that if I have a stream open or other high(ish) cpu usage process on my second monitor then my fps halves in wow even though overall cpu usage might be only around 10-20%. the cause of this is probably that wow mostly uses 1(?) core so if multiple processes use the same core it might cause issue. (this might be false but it seems true from my experience)
      also tagging @mysticalos since he might be interested in some additional data

  • @MultiRedpeanut
    @MultiRedpeanut 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't have weak aura and my fps are dogshit ever since TWW release. Have not had an issue in last 2 xpacs