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It’s a great track for gearing my alts. Go to all rep vendors, grab all the milestone keys then go and stock up on champion/ hero gear And I normally play off peak hours, with sporadic sessions

What about the candle confidant trinket? I thought that one was ranked pretty high?

I wish I could've been a fly on the wall when they were designing Delves. I wanna know exactly what they intended them to be, because they just look like catch up world quests for alts, but inside an instance. They're painful to do on my Rogue and boring on my Disc, so I get to 606 then just do 2 of them per week. I don't need 3 Delve slots in the Vault. I've been getting BiS trinkets, so I haven't been able to choose the 616s. I essentially was doing Delves for nothing. It's interesting that the Vault can counter the Vault and they did that on purpose by giving Delves their own loot pool. I find it all pretty scummy and grindy. The Grind Within.

I do delves, but I'm too casual to do M+. The toxicity you face as a learner doing M+ scared me away pretty permanently from doing them way back in Shadowlands. I do feel they should have more rewards not tied to player power, cosmetics and the like, and absolutely agree they should scale beyond 8's (just not in terms of loot ilvl.)

Some clarifications since i think some stuff got misunderstood. 1. I specifically said NOT compete with M+ or Raid gearing. no mythic track gear. The crest suggestion again wasn't about having spamable crests to trivialize running +8 dungeons. They'd be limited to bountiful delves (thus a weekly cap). 2. Most of video is talking more about long term sustainability IE delves as a system for entire season (and beyond), not just where we stand today. I'm ahead of curve for certain because i also raid and do dungeons (when i have time). But I do see the numbers and even friends NOT doing dungeons or raids at or nearing huge DRs from delves. The concept of video is about sustainability and relevance of delves over the ENTIRE season. not were we sit right now. A raider and M+ person will have a reason to login probably right up til end of season (outside of the sub 1% that clear it super fast like liquid and echo). A delver is not in same boat. their content grows stale FAR sooner and they lose incentive to login and play the game MUCh quicker and that therein is a problem. Blizzard themselves have said the casual group and casual solo player base was under represented and delves was designed specifically to fill gap for that target audience that doesn't do dungeons or raids. That target audience is whom I try to represent by this video in ensuring they have a long lasting meaningful progression, while not overdoing it or having delves compete or replace M+ or raids. TL/DR. Stop saying I said delves should gear you to teeth in mythic gear and trivialize the work of clearing harder content. That's not what I said at all. I simply said make the higher difficulties above 8 more meaningful, and make gear progression more long term (even if trickled very slowly such as 20 or less higher crests per week that only come from bountiful delves).

Veteran gear is redundant. Make Adventurer gear all the way up to Champion level 2. Remove Veteran. And now we have Adventurer, Champion, Heroic and Mythic.

Delves replaced so much content and unfortunatly I do not have as much fun in a delve vs a 7 or less key or doing normal mode raid, sadly I skip all that. I do delves until i have all champion gear and some hero then i need to either do heroic raid or 9 keys to progress my character. You should be able to get maps for t11 delves that give some crests or 6/6 hero piece either limited farmable or drops from hero level non delve content like maps can drop in raid or end of dungeon, and youd say "oh neat ill go do this map that'll be a good reason to go do a delve again". Also brann is a total failure of any kind of meta progression, part of the reason why I liked and still think horrific visions were the best solo content was the meta progression abilities effected your gameplay and you played around them

You aren't considering the value of using delves to gear alts. That is what they are aimed at.

i mean, m+ ghear falls off. raid gear falls off. what are you getting from your vaul tthat is much higher ilvl unless you are running higher jeyys or mythic raid. adn if you are doing either of those delves arent meant for you. as for the gear itself not being good, i think you are discounting the trinkets a bit too much. just because there are better doesnt mean some of them arent good. and considering the factg that the gear from the vault is all hero track, i thik you are asking for a bit too much.

Many years ago I had an install going back to August 2005 and over the years WoW had installed in several locations including the Windows “game” folder. Eventually I uninstalled the game and then reinstalled it and it was all in one place. At the time it was on hard disks, in later years I built a new machine entirely of SSDs which made things faster. I think a few years ago Blizz said not to use hard disks beyond a certain patch.

Yeah lol delves should drop gilded crests, they should have a mythic delve bounty too and you should get a free tier piece too if you get delve master 😂 everyone should be mythic track

They are just too similar to dungeons.. Something like delves in PoE would have been more interesting. But coming from the people who came up with Torghast, you can't expect too much

Just scaling health and damage in a solo environment doesn’t feel good either. Tier 11 last boss has 185m health. That’s 3 minutes at 1m dps or 6 at 500k.

Not all of us have friends to do mythics with anymore and don't want to pug it. :(

First off. Did candle confidant trinket get nerfed? If not you are MAJORLY MISSING OUT. Also I thought delves were meant to be a solo end-game experience. From day one that’s not been the case, because blizzard (historically) can’t increase health without increasing attack power on enemies, meaning every delve needs a tank, (kinda). If they don’t address that, nothing else they do matters. So far, they’ve just made dungeons again. And you can get ok gear from delves. But you can only do that with keys, which you can only get 4 of per week. And considering you can get 3 of the same item. It’s just faster to not do them at all. A brand new character goes like: 80> Warbank> Renown> Kill Queen free Crest> AH (low-low slots)> LFR> Heroics/mythics> Crest Crafted> mythics mythics mythics> Recraft I’ve got a character from 531 to 600 in two hours. (For real had saved up 8 Delve keys. And every slot hit.) but that’s how I learned to skip them on my other toons. lol. Got one upgrade in 2 hours of delving another time. I go for the more sure fire gear solutions now, that don’t take two weeks of saving keys. XD

Since my guild died a couple of years ago I dropped out of raiding. And I never liked M+, even less so since I started to play mostly solo. So yes, I still run delves and I am far from done with it as I get not nearly enough crests to upgrade my gear. Yesterday I replaced my last piece of veteran gear with a champion item. I have three hero items equipped, one from time walking. And this weeks 616 item from the vault is sitting in my bags as I need a catalyst charge to make it useable. So I am sitting at 608 in total and playing the rng game with the vault for upgrades. With delves I can go at my own pace and whenever I am up for it.

The last Tier 8 delves I ran were the week before M+ came out. Once M+ opened, there is was no reason to do Delves because you can't get Myth track gear in your vault from them.

1. They need a proper reward track that gives meaningul rewards to your character/account 2. They should be single player only because grouping them just trivalises them and when compared to m+ the rewards are substandard anyways 3. I like the idea of them not having a difficulty cap and there should be m+ style seasonal rewards for pushers 4. The highest levels should definitely award gilded crests but less than m+ 5. They should definitely be shorter. If not shorter they should be less linear and give players more scope in terms of routes. Perhaps a healer centric route for healers, a tank centric route for tanks where they have to pull elite mobs and tank them while NPCs burn them down and DPS oriented routes where DPS classes can just blast mobs. All routes have multiple objectives etc within them. At the end you have a class centric boss to defeat and voila, delve complete. This would mean all classes could push delves if they had an infinte diffulcty progression like m+, thus giving them longevity.

Delves for me were worse than Torghast because you felt like wet noodle the entire way. I stopped doing them after week 2 when the gear in them became usless, unless you got a map.

I think they should add more delves similar to zekvirs lair where you can solo a hard boss and increase the gear achievable from it.

Certain mechanics used to lag out my whole game in raids. But turning render scale to 100% and below removed this entirely

OMG, gear tops out and the game comes to an end. How scandalous. Normies don't have this problem. Only psycho TH-camrs/streamers do.

I think it's decent for alts, there are 2-3 trinkets, which are very strong if you are lucky and get them on hero track, via map or vault, but it can be unachievable without luck and the restrictions with cofferkeys, bountiful delves and similar limitations hurt delves as a so called endgame pillar. t11 delves should award hc track items and the end and there should be a way, to get myth track from maps and vault, as well as getting more crests, cuz currently delves are not rewarding enough. another way could be, that zekvir ?? rewards hc track gear and myth track vault option... but I don't know if that's a good solution.

I'll run em here & there when I'm bored. I got the season max, delver achieve, but yeah now there's basically no reason to run em

As soon as you can do 10s, there's no point in doing Delves; ~2 trinkets are decently strong in heroic but that's it. Them removing the farmable ? boss delve kinda ruined the point of them for me entirely.

I do them on alts only in order to get heroic gear in the vault that I can catalyze and upgrade for appearances only when the season ends

i appreciated how in-depth you got into each setting. it's actually what i was looking for. otherwise how can you know what settings to manipulate to actually leverage them for performance

Dude, your content is absolutely golden! Helped me out tremendously, can't thank you enough!

I quit them, they're repetitive and the rewards got instantly outclassed by M+ loot. Maybe they could add other rewards in them instead of pure ilvl, like sockets, crests, crafting materials or others.

I do delves on fresh alts for some quick gear and that's about it

The silken tank trinket is decent. It slows attack speed and gives some absorb. Also aoe. The quickwick candlestick is quite good too. Rest is junk. I’m rapidly nearing the point where delves have no value. I’m one item away basically.

i play the game completely solo. i dont even do LFR. delves were great the first few weeks. then you hit 610 i level and games pretty much over in the bubble of solo play. the delvers bounty maps drop rate needs to change. its actually insane they nerfed it, and if they didnt it sure as heck feels like they did. ive done nearly 200 delves and have only gotten 8 maps total. thats pretty skewed if you ask me. only being able to buy 3 keys a week is also laughable. this content shouldnt be timegated at all. i thought they were trying to make the game more alt friendly but in reality its more restricting than ever. and people asking for higher loot or crests drops on higher level delves are actually high as hell. why do people wanna turn solo content into a subdivision of mythic plus. its insane the disconnect the entire community/fanbase/designers all have with this game. its a theme park that doesnt have a clear direction of anything that you should be doing. its messy.

Hey bro first of all thank you very much for all the information you provide about issues with fps. I have a laptop acer nitro 5 ryzen 5 5600H and GeForce gtx 1650 plus 32 ram, overall fps in world with all settings low is good, 150+ but in the raid I have strong lags during boss mechanics. Fps drops to 20-30, I locked fps with your advice at 72 due to the monitor is 144hz. Mb there are some secret settings which could help me run wow on my potato laptop ?

Delves are for casuals like me to supplement gear level. It’s pretty easy and I don’t have mess about in pugs. Doubt it was ever in mind for end game, gear.

delves to be relevant all season should be: - lvl 8 to 11 drop crest as 8+keys - new max lvl 12 delves serves for Mythic track great vault - when complete seasonal journey, u can buy not veteran but champion item. so alt can be full champion by doing 8+ delves and buy same ilvl champion gear faster - maps for heroic gear should be a 1 time weekly fixed, so alt can gear heroic slow but stady, (maybe use zekvir boss 1 time weekly to obtain a map for hc loot) - a currency/token/high price something (bullions style) to convert special trinket or weapon to mythic track upgradable item (maybe a cap of 3 delves item for season) to bring that sweet special item on

I do agree one hundi percent that loot side is disappointing. On the other hand I enjoy delve as a casual mythic+ where I could join it when I am feeling sleepy or too tired to play actual m+ contents. M+ requires a lot of focus.

I do the delves, cause I want to get the achievements, but also I'm not that high on item level. But at this point only upgrades I can get are from vault, so the priority is to get 8 T8 delves in a week. I agree with a lot of you points, and in general I think the delves should give a constant way to progress your gear, but just at a much much slower pace than raid or mythic+, then the more hardcore and regular players wouldn't be forced to do them, but more casual player would have a way to get better gear.

Delves being enjoyable is too reliant on playing a spec that lets them be fun, ex if you are a Priest Healer then your only option is to suffer. Sure, you could group up to do delves but at that point you might as well just run dungeons instead.

after they nerfed the Profaned Tinderbox from delves I no longer do them at all even on alts

nobody want delves, i am happy that i am not forced do this shit content anymore

I don't do delves right now. I'll do the achievements near the end of the season when I'm not getting auto'd to death on Evoker.

Yeah i accidentally set it to 1440p instead of 1080p, at this bitrate it made it look worse. also i kept shouting still. oops. I was talking over a very loud fan behind me that you can't hear cause my noise cancellation is very good.

This guy is playing on MAC, lol.

I haven't re-installed since 2005 I don't think. Hmmm....

I learned that the render scale bug on windows where it tanks your fps when setting it less than 100% only happens if Liquid Detail is set to good or high. If you change it to low or fair then the bug is resolved.

i've been needing a video like this for a while

Honestly, knowing the reason it works is even better than knowing it works...

Teaching people to cap their framerate isn't a "fix" for anything. It's a way to ignore the actual issue they have. At this point you're posting in hopes of becoming a huge youtuber, but this video basically shouldn't exist. I've built my last 4 systems myself, I'm using ElvUI and Plater and lots of other addons and weakauras (most made by me, some raid ones from wago) and I've never had issues with wow performance in raid or outside. That's because over the last 15 years I've already learned what works and what doesn't in making your PC run better. Having updated drivers, uninstalling software properly, enabling or disabling well known things that hinder or improve performance in games (like disabling core isolation or disabling full screen optimizations), not having crapware run in the background etc will improve your FPS much more than these bandaid "fixes". Most wow players have issues with the game performance, this is a known fact. Most wow players also download streamer profile packs and weakaura packs and interface packs not knowing that blindly copying settings or sometimes even entire game files (looking at Naowh UI) have the potential to cripple your game. Some people have issues right down to their BIOS settings. Many who buy prebuilt PCs made by legit companies or just your tech savvy friend don't bother to learn how the machine they value most in life actually works. XMP/EXPO profiles enabled but not manually tuned for the specific hardware, random "auto boosters" left enabled will do more harm than good to your experience. I remember when Naowh started the 99% downscale + sharpening craze. That thing destroyed performance and made the game look worse, but a known streamer said it so many people blindly copied him. I could rant more, but my point is that gimping your game and capping it at 60 fps isn't the legendary "frame pacing" fix you're making it out to be.