7:17 So when Mia snorts the Heroin, she thinks that it's coke because of the container it was in. Coke is known to come in a baggie. Heroine is known to come in to balloons for this reason. When the dealer says "I'm out of balloons, is a baggie okay?", that is something that he needed to clarify with Vincent because that is how people differentiate coke and heroin they look very identical in powder form. With Mia not knowing this, she OD'd. It took me years to realize this and is one of the greatest attentions to detail I've ever seen...Blows my mind till this day. I'm requesting 3 sins off.
Both were also often packaged in tinfoil. Packaging does not differentiate drugs. Consistency, taste and smell do. Any regular drug user would have tasted a strange bag before blowing a huge line.
I worked at a small McDonald's when I was 16 around the same time that this movie came out. i always knew that it stood for a quarter pounder with cheese, but my coworkers would send out Big Macs, Double Quarters, or the failed Arch Deluxe. It was a laugh. And yeah, we're a little behind the times here. This was in Franklin, NH, if that helps. Lol.
You know a movie is great when you can remember the exact moment and circumstances when you saw it for the first time. I had a friend who lived in my apartment complex, his older brother showed me this movie and played the OutKast Aquemini album in the same night. I was never the same.
i was in 8th grade and pirated it on my laptop one night when i couldnt sleep before school, started watching it at like 5 am, went to school, finished it.
Watched this in my buddy's living room after a nice wake and bake post getting completely fkd up the night before at a party and almost dying on the ride home (my buddy told me the next day that he fell asleep for a second while driving, and I was already passed out in the passenger seat).
Totally dig that Marsellus let Butch go. He knew what Butch did to come back and that Butch was home free if he just left. Coming back was a purely selfless act that did nothing but create negatives for a guy who was a hated enemy. And saved his life. Marsellus got a heap of character exposition there by recognizing that and letting him leave (and Marsellus was saved from certain death several times in the last few minutes so hes probably just grateful it ended with him alive. Also there is NO doubt he had other things on his mind, all he wanted to do was concentrate on the horrible upcoming torture)
Ironically I still internally maintain that the reason he bribed Butch in the first place to throw the fight was that he knew full well he'd lose it, meaning he comes off as a fat loser mosta that section
The opening credits was necessary to detach you emotional from the opening scene. It was genius really. It essentially resets the viewer, and prepares them for the overall story "order"
Not only that, but I feel that people have forgotten this - Back then, ALL films had about 3 minutes worth of credits, that HAD to be shown within the first 5 minutes of a film (might have been the first 10 minutes), according to union/ S.A.G. rules/ whatever. Some movies were like Pulp Fiction, where you'd get a bit of the film, them 3 minutes of credits, then the rest of the film, but most were straight into the 3 or 4 minutes of credits, followed by the film. Nowadays, of course, we just go straight into the films and the credits are either an afterthought, or are sometimes displayed during the opening scenes. Because of this, because we now get straight into the action, without having to endure minutes of credits, for people we don't know, doing jobs we don't understand, because we no longer have to put up with this shit, a LOT of people have forgotten that it used to be the standard to have to watch the credits before the movie.
7:04 they lost that contest, later in the movie radio announces that prize for that contest has been stolen 11:09 also Vincent didn't react to the noise because he thought it was Marsellus, who was out for coffee and thought he had returned
That clears things up, thanks. As for Vincent not reacting, he could at best still ask "Marsellus, is that you?" when he heard someone entering. They knew who they were waiting for in that apartment so you better be sure who gets in.
@@busimagen Thing is, it's a literary genius move to have Vince spending so long on the toilet in the first place. Because taking opioids constipates you.
I agree that Jules says “Brad” and not “Brett” but I always assumed it was either Jules simply not caring enough to remember Brett’s name, or Jules intentionally screwing it up as if to say “I don’t care enough about you, nor are you important enough, for me to remember your name”
THANK YOU! His name is Buddy lmao and vincent even comments “i dont think buddy is much of a waiter” thats cuz hes mr pink hiding out lol. I honestly never see ANYONE talking about this great eye! 👍
@@ginchiller Cinema sins started off as legitimate film critique channel but quickly started to fall into their own jokes and style (which i dont mind too much tbh) where a lot of valid criticisms are buried between too many jokes and memes. I watch their videos now knowing that a majority of sins are just Jeremy playing the Cinema Sins character and only a handful of sins are actual criticisms of the film.
@@ginchiller, If you don't question every EWW video, you should start. In each video, the sin writers ignorance shines through, with a brilliant bright light. There are sins, that He explains as if the movie didn't tell us, when the movie did tell us. The Phantom Menace, is the first one that comes to mind right away. Binks tells Qui-Gon that because his life was saved by him, his gods demand that Qui-Gon now pretty much owns Jar Jar. Later there is a sin added, for Qui-Gon knowing Gungan law, using what he was told by Jar Jar, (about the gods) when he is bartering for Jar Jar's life. Another thing, I'm pretty young, a lot closer to being a teenager than this guy, he has no clue how kids behave, it's made more obvious when you read his book, poor writing. And yes, I know I have bad written skillz too.
@@kylesmith405, I also started reading his first book, and I think it sucks. The only unique part is the disabled kids, until you realize the blind protagonist is just an excuse for lazy writing. He doesn't try to hide the various other materials he's pulling EVERY idea from. There is more but the worst is his book reads, as if the movie would open with a lot of narration.
17:16 I would say that the reason the wolf is so successful is that he's easily able to stay calm in a stressful situation. Whereas in most cases people can't see the obvious when they're freaking out
The reason Vincent didn't hear Butch is because...well he did hear Butch. Marcellus lost a lot of money on Butches fight and wanted to cap him personally. When they found out Butch wasn't at his apartment they waited for him to come back, eventually they got hungry Marcellus left his Mac-10 in the apartment to go get donuts. Vincent had to use the bathroom, while in the bathroom he heard Butch come back, but he assumed it was Marcellus with the donuts. He walked out eager for a sugary snack but instead got blasted by the guy he was supposed to kill.
I do really like that interpretation, but I still think it was Vincent's gun on the counter, just because if he had a gun when he walked out of the bathroom, why wouldn't he even try to reach for it?
@@Cree8Ball Maybe Vincent could have a hidden gun or maybe the gun in the kitchen belongs to him. But the fact is Vincent don´t alert about the situation and when he open the door, Butch was already aiming to him with the mac-10 (or uzi) In other words, Vincent "was already dead" (no chance to escape or try to counter-attack Butch)
Wanna know what's hilarious is that Marsecelluss had the security system so when Butch goes to get his watch back in the gold watch that Vincent died so I'm wondering if Marsecelluss was going to kill Vincent after dealing with Butch if they had been successful with killing Butch since Marsecelluss already had the evidence and the fact that Mia said they would both be dead if he found out. And isn't it suspicious that Marsecelluss would want to accompany Vincent for the job to kill Butch. Meaning that Vincent was a deadman and Mia is going to die. But this would be THE PERFECT SET UP FOR A PULP FICTION SEQUEL. With Mia realizing this and begging Jules to help her.
Yeah, that's interesting. Though, maybe Vincent would get a pass since the same footage would also show that Mia snorted the Heroin alone and that he did get her back home safe without authorities being alerted. He definitely took care of her.
11:17 Vincent does notice the sound it’s just that he thought it was Marsellus , Marsellus went out to get donuts and that’s why when leaving Bruce runs into him.
11:10 Vincent though he had heard Marcellus entering. The next scene confirms that because Marcellus was carrying 2 cups of coffee before he was hit by Buch.
They did actually lose the contest. It's shown briefly in the news in the background that they had actually stolen the trophy. Not even I picked that up so I can't blame giving a sin for that
@@Temporary_Doctor verb gerund or present participle: foreshadowing - be a warning or indication of (a future event) ||||| Film maker has character describe story which very closely aligns with a film he was already conceptualizing by the female actress which he has star in that movie, talking about how she would be starring in it. |||||||||| sorry, so what the fuck you talking about?
What would you have wanted them to really sin..? The movie isn't flawless, but it IS QT's masterwork which he'll never surpass... Getting a score close to 100 was an achievement for those who created this channel/video!
10:30 this dialogue was completely necessary because it pays off with one of the best lines in the movie which is when Butch says "Did you get your pancakes?" later on.
This is just another "Quentin Tarantino really fucking loves movies" thing. The rectangle is the exact dimensions of a movie theater screen. It was never supposed to be a square.
why does the shape have to be a square from a random viewer's perspective? She is probably showing a square to the DRIVER. And as you might have learnt in math class, a square can become a rectangle under projection.
6:57 Vincent and Mia didn't win the dance contest but stole the trophy! When Butch later sits in the taxi you can hear about it in the Radio broadcast.
@@damnvier3897 The radio broadcast you're referring to is where Esmeralda Villalobos learns about Butch's fight. She turns off the radio after hearing that Butch killed Floyd... source: the fucking movie LMAO
I remember walking out of the theatre at 16 years old, thinking I’d just witnessed the ultimate game changer in the film industry. 26 years later, and I still can’t think of another movie that made me feel that way.
@@ryderjames5611 it’s the dialogue between the characters. Tarantino filmed whole scenes of hardcore gangsters discussing Big Macs, foot massages, etc.. Like they were just 2 guys that punch a clock, chatting around a water cooler. In one scene, they’re discussing putting mayonnaise on French fries, and in the next, they’re massacring an entire room of people. It’s not for everybody, but for me, it’s the best movie in the last 50 years.
The scene where Vincent gets shot, the uzi is Marcellus’s and he went out to get coffee and donuts explaining why he would just leave it there and that Vincent doesn’t get worried if he hears anything that butch does because he probably thinks it’s Marcellus
11:10 actually Vincent hears the sounds but he doesnt react. Because he thinks that it is Marsellus Wallace who is making the noises and the gun on counter is Marsellus' gun. In the scene where Butch hits Marsellus with his honda you can see that Marsellus has two coffees and donut package in his hands. He is going back to Butch's apartment.
I've heard the reason that law enforcement is " conspicuously absent" when Butch hits Marcellus, is apparently ( according to fan theory) this was taking place at the same time as the diamond heist in " Reservoir Dogs" and most of the police where handling that. The " Quentin Tarantino" movie universe is apparently " connected"
Well, _Reservoir Dogs_ and _Pulp Fiction_ were always connected, even besides some cockamamie fan theory: Travolta's character in PF (Vincent Vega) and Madsen's character in RD (Vic Vega) are brothers.
Its the same as the red in movies. U dont take it on . Everytime vinc goes in if u were real asdute youd knof his bad luck fld continue. Its because he laughed at sam jacks divine inspiration of good luck so he received bad luck. With regards to red in sin city they play with the red showing it could be beautiful but ugly. Theres, a reason ppl remember, royale with cheese the bat dance , the accidental overdose. Sam jacksons gheri curl. The show dials fith real characters yet in a so called pulp fiction world. U thrust into the action of all its stars. Bru e gets the drip on trabolta as his cause more righteous. . Heavily layered, show. Meant to be rewatchable, tight dialogue. I watch the hateful eight as well over n over. Sam jacksons story telling is pictoral n vivid. Every body gets what coming to them in satisfying scenes, dhrngo part two or a companion piece to django
Vince goes to the toilet 3 times, and every time he does something bad goes down. First time Mia overdoses, second time the diner robbery begins, third time Vince gets shot dead.
The sdorytelling is so joid that the characters do real everyday stuff that doesnt, seem out of pla e so u dont sdudy it until u look at it from deeper angles It is a biblical play but in evesyday gangster character personas. Sort of like someo n juliet, with dicaprio n leguizama. I caught all the analogies once. Its also like dogma the movie. A what if angels or biblical characters talked to themself what wld they say or how, wld they act in situations. Samuel jackson states the two ways the show cld be looked at, . I forget the breakdown once. Samuel sealises hes invincible yet travolta constantly deviates from stuff for a more human exgerience n mistakes just keep hapgening i. E he starts to experience random human occurences mishaps as he goes, against the god charactnr ving fho firgives n eciles bruce willis from his city. But again i forget all the analogies sprinkled through the film.
@@jimzafiriou7808 in all three vingettes hes like a side character or a witness to the event. It is, a genuine shakespaerian drama Him takeing a bath break is probably to snort lines. Didnt even catch that. So hes like the narratoror from xhose eyes the dtory ungolds. He is there wztching xhen vin gave bruce the nixing instructions n probably died beczuse he indulted bruces legacy by saying he knew he was takeung a dive n mocked him. Bruce znger lade him kill the boxer unintentionally n his anger stli made him wantc to kill travolta. Noww remembering the analogy. His watch is likrhis own holy grail that protectd him guides him etc. Notice the foretelling or irony of where the watch was hidden n what he gid to the storeowner. Or w was about to be done to him Poetic justice..
@2:18 When Marcellus calls The Wolf later on in the movie, he gives a physical description of Jules and Vincent, which The Wolf takes note of. So it’s reasonable to assume that Marcellus briefed Jules and Vincent the same way before they confronted Brett and Co.
Fun fact: in a bit of subtle storytelling Tarantino makes it clear that the gun on the counter did not belong to Vincent but it belonged to Wallace, who was tagging along and had taken a break to get coffee and donuts and given the fact you can’t carry around an UZI in public he had to leave it on the counter.
Did Wallace really go with Vincent to Butches place? I always assumed Butch just had the worst luck possible when he ran into Wallace. Also, why would Wallace carry an uzi, he has a pistol.
@@leonpaelinck it’s not explicitly stated but it does make sense why he’d be getting a box of donuts so close to the apartment. Also explains Vincent being caught off guard by Butch. It’s not that he didn’t hear him walking around it’s that he assumed it was Marcellus back from the coffee run and not Butch.
@@Joseph-lj4sp I guess it's possible. Still very dumb of Vincent, like isn't he there waiting for Butch to come home? But I don't question his stupitidy.
@@leonpaelinck yeah it’s kinda an ongoing theme in the movie that Vincent ain’t exactly good at his job between that, him hyping himself up in the bathroom as Mia is ODing, talking without a code on an unsecured line, accidentally shooting that dude in the face, etc.
That would also explain the overkill of bringing an uzi to kill one dude when Jules and Vincent previously took pistols to a job with 4-5 potentially hostile targets.
But that doesn't make sense. Vincent and Marsellus were waiting for Butch to come back to his apartment. At best Vince should have been suspicious that if it was actually Marsellus, he didn't say a word, like telling Vincent he got back. Or is Vincent that dumb that he thinks it couldn't have been Butch... when his damn job was waiting for Butch.
@@sargon6000 We're talking about someone who left his gun on the counter to go to the bathroom while waiting to kill someone. I think it's established he's not very smart.
I always thought Jules reading a corrupted bible version is symbolism to his character. He uses something supposedly sacred, corrupts it, and uses it as some kind of justification for his actions.
And he doesn’t find out what the true meaning is until the end of the movie, the same time he quits being a hitman to find god, jules becomes born again
@@amojak the movie is karate kiba or bodyguard kiba starring sonny chiba the quote is at the beginning of the movie as script. the last line is changed in pulp fiction to use the biblical quote instead of "and they shall know I am Chiba the bodyguard when I shall lay my terrible vengeance upon them.' Tarrantino was (is) a big Chiba fan.
He Doesn't Use the Modified bible verse to Justify His Actions, In His On words He said the Verse Because He Thought It Was Some Cold Hearted Shit To Say to A Mother Fucker Right Before You Killed 'Em. He Modified The Words Simply Because it sounded Better. Don't think Jules Gives a shit about Morals, the only reason He Wants to Retire Is Because he thinks His Luck Is Running Out, but He was Just the Harbinger or Vincent's Fate.
I in 89-91 I lived in the apartment building that the Brett seen was shot in, and I can assure you that someone absolutely could have gotten shot there & no one called the cops, LOL. 1. It was in the middle of Hollywood 2. It was in a REALLY SKETCHY area in the middle of Hollywood (my roommates BF was murdered around the corner from our building, my old janky car was stolen by a homeless person 2 weeks after I moved in) 3. The building had started as a luxury hotel built at the turn of the 20th century & was built to completely different standards than buildings of today. The lathe & plaster over brick walls were so thick & sturdy as to be nearly soundproof. I could play LOUD punk rock music all night long & never bother my neighbors. You couldn’t hear it through the floors/ceiling or outside my apartment unless you were standing in the hall directly outside my front door. It was also RIGHT next to a freeway off-ramp that was LOUD & busy 24 hrs a day. Gunshots could easily go unheard in that environment. 4. It was an old, rundown, dirty, cheap AF building managed by a skeezy creepy alcoholic 2nd rate Boss Hogg impersonator, filled with a random eclectic assortment of very low income goths, punks, bikers, seniors, undocumented immigrants, people on disability, addicts, mentally ill, LGBTQ couples etc who most likely wouldn’t want to get involved with the bigoted a-holes at LAPD if they didn’t absolutely have to…and as someone who was regularly profiled, targeted, harassed, even assaulted back then by LA & OC PD’s simply because I looked wEiRd & listening to anti-authoritarian music, I don’t fucking blame them. That building in that city in that particular moment in time that the movie is both being filmed and taking place, it’s not at all implausible that shots would go unheard or ignored.
Wow that’s quite the story! When he asked why no one called the cops I immediately thought “because this is a sketchy apartment building and the likelihood that almost every other unit is ALSO doing some sketchy shit is quite high. And people doing sketchy shit (or as you said, people who are undocumented immigrants, drug addicts, mentally ill, etc) don’t exactly want the cops coming around”. (And if you take into consideration that this was, assuming that the movie was set around the time it came out, LA in the 90s, ESPECIALLY NOT THE LAPD) Not to mention I’d bet Marsellus knew this was the case and that’s why he was ok sending them there.
KINGD353 I've not seen that before but maybe it's just who I hang around? I actually don't remember if I've seen the movie, but it doesn't look like they're holding any makeup tools or anything so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5:56 Fox Force 5= Deadly Viper Assassination Squad Kill Bill is based off a throwaway line about a made-up/ cancelled TV pilot, and if that isn't the most Tarantino thing Tarantino has ever done, then I don't know what is.
Personal head cannon here but I think the reason there’s a distinct lack of cops in this movie despite all the crazy shit happing is because it takes place during the events of reservoir dogs
I don't buy this one. Aside from the two groups having different names, one of the DiVAS being a male when every member of the FFF is stated to be female, there's the fact that the Fox Force Five are crime fighters, while the DiVAS are assassins - outright criminals. How are they supposed to be the same group???
@@simplyvibinn5417 Officially, the concept for Kill Bill was hashed out by QT and UT on the set of pulp fiction, hence the Q&U credit in Kill Bill titles.
Same. Generic looking white guy with a generic white person name, why would he care about accuracy. His lack of fucks to give would make him more intimidating to someone like Bread or whatever his name was.
Pulp Fiction is a Classic and oh so good. You missed a big blooper/sin but you touched on it. Has anyone ever noticed that when MIa and Vincent arrive back to her house after dinner, they enter, she puts in the code to the alarm, plops down on the couch and one of the patio doors behind her is wide open?
@@jocelynastheart2732 I just checked it out again and there are 3 identical French doors on that back wall and the center one is clearly open. BLOOPER!
@@jimmyandersson9938 A blooper is an "OOPS" a mistake in a movie like when an extra depicting a Roman soldier is seen wearing a watch. Mia turns off the alarm, puts on the music and plops on the couch. Unless she let her cat out the door behind should not have been open. Blooper.
Yeah I just realized it after the movie finished. Vince would've been alive if he believed that on part 3, both jules and vince survived the shots because of God's intervention. This whole back and forth storytelling has this great cause effects
The pop tart scene bothered me too until I realized that Vincent did not expect the palooka to return and Marcellus was out getting coffee and donuts and was expected back shortly. Vincent thought the noise was Marsellus. Simple.
@@isaacbruner65 Butch and Vincent share the tragic flaw of extreme alpha-male cockiness--we see it when they first meet and butt heads in the bar. This mutual trait causes Vincent to leave a loaded gun on the counter while he hits the bathroom and Butch to hang around for a celebratory poptart, leading them onto a collision course. In that moment, the toaster becomes the "clock" (/watch/deus-ex-machina) that decides which of them will live or die--10 seconds earlier and Vincent would have been alerted that someone there and come out with his .45 drawn, ready to deal business. No toilet flush leading Butch's eyes to the Mac-10 on the countertop, and those hard-pipe-hitting M-F'ers would have been putting their pliers to Butch's nuts instead of Zed's.
@@kochaos6129 Apparently the gun was Marcellus' as he left it to get coffee and donuts, Vega had his piece with him the whole time. They both underestimated Butch. It also shows Jules was the only one with professionalism in mind. Vega was used to his buddy carrying the load for him and Wallace having his henchmen do everything for him, he found it appropriate to get _breakfast_ while they were waiting _to kill someone._ I think that's why Jules tried to convince his partner to quit as well - he knew the whole society was going to the crapper the moment he would retire.
I had the pleasure of seeing this in the theater and I think decades may have gone by before I noticed Vincent walking by in the opening coffee shop scene.
Right? Such a silly thing to bring up. Whole point of a crew is they do whatever you hire them to do. Or just call it all off when it's taken care of. When you're doing a bunch of illegal stuff you don't go into detsils.
Nah they're still owed atleast something cause if theres a thing like now he owes butch his life then butch basically cant be touched ever but if its just this one time thing then you're free game later
Vincent hears Butch but he thinks it's Marsellus returning back from getting something for them to eat. It's Marsellus Uzi as well... Butch running Marsellus over is right after this scene after he kills Vincent.
Thank god i wasnt the only one who clocked onto that... marsellus and vincent were waiting for butch to come back, hence marsellus' uzi, and yeah like bolinfoto said vincent automatically assumed it was marsellus so he just walked out n there you go... got uzi'd
This scene is funny as it's a typical disagreement between men and women, but in a life threatening situation. In my younger days I had a couple of situations when a girlfriend insisted on packing for a trip while I was at work etc, and would ask what I needed. Upon arriving at the destination I would find the one thing I specifically asked for wasn't there. When being all "WTF?!" they would reply with "well if it was so important to you then you should have packed it yourself". The feeling is "Sure! But you specifically ASKED to do this and what I wanted!". Of course after this happening a couple of times I always made sure to pack the important things myself. It's a fun scene.
You gave a sin for Vincent not hearing Butch, but its extremely reasonable to think that Vincent heard Butch and just mistook him for Marsellus, who we see heading towards the apartment after Butch leaves.
@@FBI-hf1jm pretty sure ur wrong m8: every square is a rectangle because it is a quadrilateral with all four angles right angles, not every rectangle is a square, to be a square its sides must have the same length.
@@metalstick7796 every square is a rectangle but not every tesseract relies on the parameters of timespace to adhere to dimensional placement. They can be placed in waves. Whereas squares can transfix their placement on the Cartesian coordinate plane. Moving through the _x_ axis point. Destroy the old geometry friend, a dark teacher is on earth now. So would you like to see him?
You can remove another 10 for sinning obvious joke situations and set ups of surreal situations / behaviours... so for a 2.5 hour film to only have 75 sins seems like a good deal
Why would Marcellus, the boss, act as a trigger man? If he was into getting his hands dirty, he wouldn't have needed to call anyone to help him finish Zed. Vincent suggested they should have more than pistols to handle Brett and the kids. It was Vincent's gun on the counter.
@@rocknrollmonkey8668 you may find it illogical, but it is a fact that Vincent and Marcellus were in butchs apartment together and Marcellus left to get coffee and donuts for them. It's his gun. Vincent uses a pistol
People do rob restaurants. A lot. Statistically in America you're more likely to be shot working the register at a fast food restaurant than working as a police officer. My first job when i was 15 was at a burger king. We got robbed by a dude with a flare gun while i was there. Edit: and before anyone asks why we went along with the robbery, are YOU willing to find out what getting shot by a flare gun feels like for someone else's money? Neither were we.
When my dad was a teenager, the arby's he worked at got robbed. The dude waved a gun at them demanding all the roast beef and bailed when they complied.
Famous Canadian comic had a bit about robbing fast food restaurants. "Woah...manager is in the back counting the big bills..we will take you to him." BTW. the movie is clearly talking about traditional restaurants, not fast food restaurants
When my dad worked at a big boys, a couple guys in masks walked in with shotguns and locked everyone in the freezer. My dad kicked out the door, grabbed a knife, and searched the store for the robbers. Mind you, a couple of days earlier a Logan’s roadhouse was robbed down the street, where everyone was locked in the freezer and then shot to death.
As much as I want to agree with you. Honey Bunny yelling two different things has bothered me every single time from the mid 90's to now. Just the 1 sin, fair enough? :)
@@tapoemt3995 I respect your opinion, and Hell maybe you’re right and I’m wrong, but my opinion, is that with two different perspectives, you get two different outcomes/lines - just before this scene,(2nd time) we hear Jules & Vincent in an argument about a conflict of perspective: they were either saved by a by A. divine intervention, or B. a freak occurrence. I personally believe Tarantino meant for us to use this scene to entertain the idea that there is no objective reality, only what the witnesses chose to make of it, after all, we were rooting for the “bad guys” the whole time. Just my two cents.
@@stephensmith7948 I respect that. For me, I bought the dvd when it came out and I couldn't possibly tell you how many times I've watched it. You're probably the same. Anyways, every darn time I heard her in the beginning, then heard her say it later, it just bugged me. Every darn time. Other than that, this film is gold imo. Love every bit of it. Take care. :)
Well, the continuity issue with the bullet holes in the wall of the apartment before the shots were fired is definitely not explained away by perspective.
My head cannon for that scene was that the restaurants owner and staff knew she was the wife of a big gangster and just awarded them first place to stay on their good side.
One of my favorite moments is when Jules asks Brett/Brad for a "sip of (your) tasty beverage" then proceeds to drink it all, as if saying "you're not going to need the rest of this".
I (politely) demand more classic movies from before the 70's. Or just any movie from between 1920-1980, there are some good ones but there are also a lot of terrible ones.
Goodfellas was based on a true story. All of what you see actually happened. So any sin that cinemasins would find will be a sin against real life! which kind of defeats the purpose
He literally ran out of the ring...straight out the building...he still had his gloves on in the cab...he knew he wasnt gonna be able to make it back to the locker room get his watch if he had it with his other stuff.
how did he open the cab door with the gloves still on? not to mention, what cab driver is in such a hurry they jump into a dumpster to get into their cab?
11:11 Vincent and Marsellus were doing a stake out in the apartament, thats why Vincent wasn't bothered by the sounds and ALSO why Butch coincidentally met Marsellus getting some donuts
love the video, however Vince and Mia didn't win the contest, on the radio as Butch walks/sneaks back to his apartment you can hear a news programme detailing the fact that the trophy was stolen from jack rabbit slims. (allegedly, however this could also just be an unspoken hinted at truth just like the fact that butch key’d vincent’s car etc) other than that great video
Honestly, i believe when a movie is really good its difficult not to try to to look for any mistakes in a movie. I had the same problem when watching Knives Out the second time around.
7:17 So when Mia snorts the Heroin, she thinks that it's coke because of the container it was in. Coke is known to come in a baggie. Heroine is known to come in to balloons for this reason. When the dealer says "I'm out of balloons, is a baggie okay?", that is something that he needed to clarify with Vincent because that is how people differentiate coke and heroin they look very identical in powder form. With Mia not knowing this, she OD'd. It took me years to realize this and is one of the greatest attentions to detail I've ever seen...Blows my mind till this day. I'm requesting 3 sins off.
Both were also often packaged in tinfoil. Packaging does not differentiate drugs. Consistency, taste and smell do. Any regular drug user would have tasted a strange bag before blowing a huge line.
@@kiran_3986 total bullshit cause they smell different and taste different
@@mikes2622 does that apply when your high?
I'm so proud you all know these details! 🙄
Now I'm worried about you knowing this much about hard drugs.😳😳🤔😏😏
cinemasins: everything wrong with pulp fi-
me: *I DONT REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GODDAMN THING*
What?
Perfect!😂😂😂
Paul Arcadien It’s a line from the movie
Nicholas Gunter “what?” Is also a line from the movie
Yea, I am kinda like Jules, in my BAMF mode, not quite as loud though
If you worked at a McDonald's when this came out, the biggest ding was having to hear every smartass ask for a 'Royale with cheese'.
hilarious fact
Haha brilliant 👏
To be fair, over here in germany i ALWAYS order a royale with cheese at mc donalds^^ At least the quote is correct.
I worked at a small McDonald's when I was 16 around the same time that this movie came out. i always knew that it stood for a quarter pounder with cheese, but my coworkers would send out Big Macs, Double Quarters, or the failed Arch Deluxe. It was a laugh. And yeah, we're a little behind the times here. This was in Franklin, NH, if that helps. Lol.
I ask for a Royale with Cheese now
You know a movie is great when you can remember the exact moment and circumstances when you saw it for the first time. I had a friend who lived in my apartment complex, his older brother showed me this movie and played the OutKast Aquemini album in the same night. I was never the same.
you survived all that awesome in 1 night?
Yes! When I first met my, spottieottiedopalicious angel... I can remember that damn thang like yesterday
i was in 8th grade and pirated it on my laptop one night when i couldnt sleep before school, started watching it at like 5 am, went to school, finished it.
Watched this in my buddy's living room after a nice wake and bake post getting completely fkd up the night before at a party and almost dying on the ride home (my buddy told me the next day that he fell asleep for a second while driving, and I was already passed out in the passenger seat).
Great stuff
the most accurate part is that you kept removing sins
Didn't know women liked Pulp Fiction?
The most inaccurate part is that it didnt end up negative
I think this is the most they've ever removed sins from a film - which is perfectly fitting
@@anycolouryoulike8567 the fuck is your point lmao
This comment should have a 1000 plus "thumbs ups"
Seen this movie a million times and never noticed Vincent was walking to the bathroom in the first scene until now...
And the puppies.... Don't forget the puppies
Have you, like, not even watched ONE trivia Video on this? Because they all say that!
@@HAL-vm3wn I guess I haven't lol.
HAL 9000 nice username
saaaaaammmee!!
the scene with the overly long description of what she wants for breakfast is for hinting she's pregnant and has a large appetite
Yep...that's also what the pot belly discussion was about.
This movie is actually insane
I've seen this movie a thousand times and I just got that. It adds so much to the whole watch story
that also may be why she forgot the watch in the apartment
Everyone I've heard of who was pregnant never had an appetite, they barely ate anything
Totally dig that Marsellus let Butch go. He knew what Butch did to come back and that Butch was home free if he just left. Coming back was a purely selfless act that did nothing but create negatives for a guy who was a hated enemy. And saved his life. Marsellus got a heap of character exposition there by recognizing that and letting him leave (and Marsellus was saved from certain death several times in the last few minutes so hes probably just grateful it ended with him alive. Also there is NO doubt he had other things on his mind, all he wanted to do was concentrate on the horrible upcoming torture)
He was gonna get medieval on their A.
Ironically I still internally maintain that the reason he bribed Butch in the first place to throw the fight was that he knew full well he'd lose it, meaning he comes off as a fat loser mosta that section
Butch came back to save Marsellus to earn his grandfather's war watch.
more than half of these "sins" is what makes this film so brilliant
TBF Cinemasins guy also hints at it multiple times, and he basically admits he is sinning them because otherwise he couldn't sin anything else
There's only 84 sins, so it's not like he had a lot to work with.
@@julianmitchell3035 3 hour movie
You must be new here
Almost like that's the point, weird.
You know its a good ass movie when cinemasins apologizes for removing so many sins
No it's shit.
@@310smoker Then why is Jeremy padding the sin count with obviously non-issue sins, like sinning stuff he enjoys about the movie.
@Zed Isdead - 84 was the final sin tally.
@@310smoker (EVERYONE DISLIKED THAT)
I've already seen some unnecessary sins but I hope birdman gets started on this platinum trophy of a movie.
I'll never forgive you if you haven't removed a sin for "Oh man I shot Marvin in the face."
Wrestling Intersection It’s funnier when you realize Travolta killed the voice of Samurai Jack
Ben Wasserman and Hermes Conrad
😂😂😂
@ Yes because if not for Vincent's action then Marvin wouldn't have been in that situation.
@@lawcane Nope, cause Vincent in his power sent Marvin to the hospital. Surgeon is guilty of manslaughter. Vincent should get unintentional murder.
The opening credits was necessary to detach you emotional from the opening scene. It was genius really. It essentially resets the viewer, and prepares them for the overall story "order"
Exactly
Interesting.
Not only that, but I feel that people have forgotten this - Back then, ALL films had about 3 minutes worth of credits, that HAD to be shown within the first 5 minutes of a film (might have been the first 10 minutes), according to union/ S.A.G. rules/ whatever. Some movies were like Pulp Fiction, where you'd get a bit of the film, them 3 minutes of credits, then the rest of the film, but most were straight into the 3 or 4 minutes of credits, followed by the film.
Nowadays, of course, we just go straight into the films and the credits are either an afterthought, or are sometimes displayed during the opening scenes. Because of this, because we now get straight into the action, without having to endure minutes of credits, for people we don't know, doing jobs we don't understand, because we no longer have to put up with this shit, a LOT of people have forgotten that it used to be the standard to have to watch the credits before the movie.
@@Raz.C Nice. Thanks for this bit of knowledge.
CinemaSins has finally done Pulp Fiction. What a moment in history.
Pretty sure this is a reupload.
@@ps5056 I'm pretty sure your new here.
I was hoping for that too
Gearing up for once upon a time in Hollywood!
They finally made a video about the most overrated movie in the history of cinema. :D
7:04 they lost that contest, later in the movie radio announces that prize for that contest has been stolen
11:09 also Vincent didn't react to the noise because he thought it was Marsellus, who was out for coffee and thought he had returned
Also thats marsellus gun not vincents on the counter.
That clears things up, thanks. As for Vincent not reacting, he could at best still ask "Marsellus, is that you?" when he heard someone entering. They knew who they were waiting for in that apartment so you better be sure who gets in.
Literally as soon as I heard the first sin, checked the comments section to see if someone else caught it.
@@busimagen Thing is, it's a literary genius move to have Vince spending so long on the toilet in the first place. Because taking opioids constipates you.
little fun fact:
The Adrenaline Shot scene was filmed in reverse :D
we all knew this 20 years ago
Which just speaks to Tarantino’s genius. He got a great looking shot that way. Very clever.
WHOOOOOOAAAAAAAA
I didn’t know that. Haha Thanks 👍
@@potato-whiz You're kidding, right? You think Tarantino invented this technique? I was doing it with my Super 8 movies when I was 12 (back in '79).
I agree that Jules says “Brad” and not “Brett” but I always assumed it was either Jules simply not caring enough to remember Brett’s name, or Jules intentionally screwing it up as if to say “I don’t care enough about you, nor are you important enough, for me to remember your name”
he says "brett".
Brad is black for white dude
1 sin to Cinema Sins for not acknowledging that Steve Buscemi was the waiter who took Vincent’s and Mia’s order
"Discount Steve Buscemi- HOLY SH*T!" -ding-
THANK YOU! His name is Buddy lmao and vincent even comments “i dont think buddy is much of a waiter” thats cuz hes mr pink hiding out lol. I honestly never see ANYONE talking about this great eye! 👍
holy shit i've seen this movie over 15 times and i just figured it was a random discount Jeff goldblum
Matt Brown As in Buddy Holly
I always forget that it's Steve Buscemi, for some reason he sounds different to me.
I've seen this movie at least 20 times and never noticed Vincent walking in the background of the beginning of the movie
Z-girly Pandahearting ditto
Only 20 times? I've watched this film atleast 100 times and never noticed vincent at the beginning
I noticed it the second time I watched it and I was so proud of myself for noticing it
'Bout 30 times myself... yet, same here.
How does Vincent not hear this? He does, he just assumes it's Marsellus coming back with the coffee which Butch "runs" into
@@ginchiller Cinema sins started off as legitimate film critique channel but quickly started to fall into their own jokes and style (which i dont mind too much tbh) where a lot of valid criticisms are buried between too many jokes and memes. I watch their videos now knowing that a majority of sins are just Jeremy playing the Cinema Sins character and only a handful of sins are actual criticisms of the film.
@@ginchiller, If you don't question every EWW video, you should start. In each video, the sin writers ignorance shines through, with a brilliant bright light.
There are sins, that He explains as if the movie didn't tell us, when the movie did tell us. The Phantom Menace, is the first one that comes to mind right away. Binks tells Qui-Gon that because his life was saved by him, his gods demand that Qui-Gon now pretty much owns Jar Jar.
Later there is a sin added, for Qui-Gon knowing Gungan law, using what he was told by Jar Jar, (about the gods) when he is bartering for Jar Jar's life.
Another thing, I'm pretty young, a lot closer to being a teenager than this guy, he has no clue how kids behave, it's made more obvious when you read his book, poor writing.
And yes, I know I have bad written skillz too.
Rage Knight Smith this sounds alil personal 😭
@@kylesmith405, I LOVE this channel, I'm nearly always listening to it. But I cannot ignore these things.
@@kylesmith405, I also started reading his first book, and I think it sucks. The only unique part is the disabled kids, until you realize the blind protagonist is just an excuse for lazy writing.
He doesn't try to hide the various other materials he's pulling EVERY idea from.
There is more but the worst is his book reads, as if the movie would open with a lot of narration.
17:16 I would say that the reason the wolf is so successful is that he's easily able to stay calm in a stressful situation. Whereas in most cases people can't see the obvious when they're freaking out
The reason Vincent didn't hear Butch is because...well he did hear Butch. Marcellus lost a lot of money on Butches fight and wanted to cap him personally. When they found out Butch wasn't at his apartment they waited for him to come back, eventually they got hungry Marcellus left his Mac-10 in the apartment to go get donuts. Vincent had to use the bathroom, while in the bathroom he heard Butch come back, but he assumed it was Marcellus with the donuts. He walked out eager for a sugary snack but instead got blasted by the guy he was supposed to kill.
You goddam right!
The fact he was a moron..had nothing to do with it
Holy fuck 🤯
I do really like that interpretation, but I still think it was Vincent's gun on the counter, just because if he had a gun when he walked out of the bathroom, why wouldn't he even try to reach for it?
@@Cree8Ball Maybe Vincent could have a hidden gun or maybe the gun in the kitchen belongs to him.
But the fact is Vincent don´t alert about the situation and when he open the door, Butch was already aiming to him with the mac-10 (or uzi)
In other words, Vincent "was already dead" (no chance to escape or try to counter-attack Butch)
They actually did lose the Twist Contest. They stole the trophy. You can hear someone mentioning it either on a radio or a TV in the background later.
Wanna know what's hilarious is that Marsecelluss had the security system so when Butch goes to get his watch back in the gold watch that Vincent died so I'm wondering if Marsecelluss was going to kill Vincent after dealing with Butch if they had been successful with killing Butch since Marsecelluss already had the evidence and the fact that Mia said they would both be dead if he found out. And isn't it suspicious that Marsecelluss would want to accompany Vincent for the job to kill Butch. Meaning that Vincent was a deadman and Mia is going to die. But this would be THE PERFECT SET UP FOR A PULP FICTION SEQUEL. With Mia realizing this and begging Jules to help her.
Yeah, that's interesting. Though, maybe Vincent would get a pass since the same footage would also show that Mia snorted the Heroin alone and that he did get her back home safe without authorities being alerted. He definitely took care of her.
That's actually a myth. It's an advert for jack rabbits on tv.
I thought this was also the case for years. Tarantino has confirmed it apparently
Wait, seriously?
@@mrnukes797 sorry, but ever heard of punctuation? I got a headache reading that!
11:17 Vincent does notice the sound it’s just that he thought it was Marsellus , Marsellus went out to get donuts and that’s why when leaving Bruce runs into him.
@Osman Yousif Paul was hiding in a bowl of rice in Indo-China, ready to pop a cap in his ass.
Stapelton is a favorite Earl track
Butch uses Marsellus’s gun not Vincent’s.
11:10 Vincent though he had heard Marcellus entering. The next scene confirms that because Marcellus was carrying 2 cups of coffee before he was hit by Buch.
Is it me or was this the most times he removed sins for a movie?
deadvodka probably
Nope he sins several GoT episodes on TVSins and he removed a lot for Get Out.
No, Deadpool holds that
Of course, this movie was too perfect
Of course. It’s Pulp Fiction. Even these guys bows their heads before this movie.
Cinema sins I don’t remember asking you a god damn thing!
I'm sorry, did I break your concentration!
Um...
You didn’t, but the people who wanted this movie sinned did.
@Caleb Montes r/Wooooooooooosh
Caleb Montes r/whoosh
They did actually lose the contest. It's shown briefly in the news in the background that they had actually stolen the trophy. Not even I picked that up so I can't blame giving a sin for that
When does the news say that?
@@strangebrew1231 pretty sure it's on the radio nearby when Butch is sneaking to get his watch
@@bobbyshmurdashat3254 whattttttt
@@bobbyshmurdashat3254 thats right
That is a good spot
So @58 seconds, you see Vince walking out in the background. I absolutely love that attention to detail
I demand you remove another 50 sins for the whole "fox force 5" scene being a huge foreshadowing to the entire Kill Bill story
Holy shit well spotted
The samurai sword in the pawn shop is referenced in vol. 1 but shown as not cannon in vol. 2
Figured I’d make it 666 likes..and yes..what you said 😈✌🏾
I mean, it’s not really foreshadowing though.
@@Temporary_Doctor verb
gerund or present participle: foreshadowing -
be a warning or indication of (a future event) |||||
Film maker has character describe story which very closely aligns with a film he was already conceptualizing by the female actress which he has star in that movie, talking about how she would be starring in it. ||||||||||
sorry, so what the fuck you talking about?
Wow. This is arguably the most lenient CinemaSins has ever been with a movie, especially when they had 20 minutes to sin it.
84 is a solid modern age sin count
What would you have wanted them to really sin..? The movie isn't flawless, but it IS QT's masterwork which he'll never surpass...
Getting a score close to 100 was an achievement for those who created this channel/video!
must be his favorite movie
"No movie is without sin" is not the same that "we only review bad movies". And Interestellar got a lot sins removed, too!
@@darthutah6649 that would be district 9
No sin removal for “Zed is dead baby”
As far as last words riding/driving off into the sunset go theyre quite funny/apt ;]
10:30 this dialogue was completely necessary because it pays off with one of the best lines in the movie which is when Butch says "Did you get your pancakes?" later on.
It feels more like a movie instead of only hearing what you have to like todays garbage
I laughed out loud at "RECTANGLE!" That has bugged me since the very first time I saw this movie. (And I saw it 6 times in the theater in 1994.)
Honey Bunny saying the line different at the end is the other thing that has always bothered me since that very first viewing.
This is just another "Quentin Tarantino really fucking loves movies" thing. The rectangle is the exact dimensions of a movie theater screen. It was never supposed to be a square.
Jeeeeelliss !! I saw dat thang 50 fajillyin times on my 10 inch flatscreen !!
In Kill Bill, the Bride also does the square thing
why does the shape have to be a square from a random viewer's perspective? She is probably showing a square to the DRIVER. And as you might have learnt in math class, a square can become a rectangle under projection.
Samuel L Jackson's performance in Pulp Fiction is one of the best performances I've ever seen in my entire life
That was his BEST performance PERIOD!
why? how is it good acting?
@@drivingintothedesertuntilt3202 how is it not? explain
*THE BEST
@@drivingintothedesertuntilt3202 how is it not
Dude, the only thing wrong with pulp fiction is that I’m not watching it at this moment
Ye bro
6:57 Vincent and Mia didn't win the dance contest but stole the trophy! When Butch later sits in the taxi you can hear about it in the Radio broadcast.
False...
@ source? Trust me bro? ok, then
@@damnvier3897 The radio broadcast you're referring to is where Esmeralda Villalobos learns about Butch's fight. She turns off the radio after hearing that Butch killed Floyd... source: the fucking movie LMAO
16:10 tarantino's acting was not that bad. He played a weird low key everyday man. His lack of acting skills made his character more realistic
I disagree, QT simply can't act. Have you seen him in other movies? My opinion.
TotalledTitan42 Should’ve said “my dick size”, self burns are always the best
Especially considering the titans that were acting beside him, his acting was noticeably worse.
Quentin Tarantino takes a role in literally every movie he directs.
This.
Idk about everyone else but I thought the scene where
Quentin Tarantino talks about how fucking good his coffee is, was amazing.
100% love it too!!!
orenji orenji yeah I don’t know why it’s considered bad acting I personally love it
Me too! I thought he was great honestly
my favorite scene
Well, it was some serious gourmet ****
I remember walking out of the theatre at 16 years old, thinking I’d just witnessed the ultimate game changer in the film industry. 26 years later, and I still can’t think of another movie that made me feel that way.
@Fugp Basis lol ok.
I'm so sorry for you.
I don’t understand what makes this movie so great?
@@ryderjames5611 it’s the dialogue between the characters. Tarantino filmed whole scenes of hardcore gangsters discussing Big Macs, foot massages, etc.. Like they were just 2 guys that punch a clock, chatting around a water cooler. In one scene, they’re discussing putting mayonnaise on French fries, and in the next, they’re massacring an entire room of people. It’s not for everybody, but for me, it’s the best movie in the last 50 years.
Usual suspects. Miller’s Crossing. Goodfellas. Candy. There’s a few
Sin on Cinema Sins. The whole movie is about Butch's legacy, which is Butch surviving and passing on the birthright watch passed down to him.
for QT's final movie, he should do a sort of sequel w/Butch's son comin back to the city and getting mixed up with Ving Rhames & some others...
The scene where Vincent gets shot, the uzi is Marcellus’s and he went out to get coffee and donuts explaining why he would just leave it there and that Vincent doesn’t get worried if he hears anything that butch does because he probably thinks it’s Marcellus
HyperNerdHD It’s a MAC-10.
I don’t know for sure but I never knew about that.
Different view.
th-cam.com/video/G6Zl6HhIi9o/w-d-xo.html
11:10 actually Vincent hears the sounds but he doesnt react. Because he thinks that it is Marsellus Wallace who is making the noises and the gun on counter is Marsellus' gun. In the scene where Butch hits Marsellus with his honda you can see that Marsellus has two coffees and donut package in his hands. He is going back to Butch's apartment.
I am surprised he didn’t know this.
10 sins to Cinema Sins for not realizing Fox Force Five was really Kill Bill.
Or Charlie's Angels
HOLY FUCK I JUST REALIZED THAT KILL BILL IS REVERSE CHARLIE'S ANGELS
No, it wasn't. It's a busted myth.
@LG1201
Exactly. Already debunked.
Ketchup. Catch up.
I just love how Jules is tripping about not getting shot. "We should be f***king dead man!" 😆 Nice realistic touch 👌
I've heard the reason that law enforcement is " conspicuously absent" when Butch hits Marcellus, is apparently ( according to fan theory) this was taking place at the same time as the diamond heist in " Reservoir Dogs" and most of the police where handling that. The " Quentin Tarantino" movie universe is apparently " connected"
Well, _Reservoir Dogs_ and _Pulp Fiction_ were always connected, even besides some cockamamie fan theory: Travolta's character in PF (Vincent Vega) and Madsen's character in RD (Vic Vega) are brothers.
Except Steve Buscemi can't play Mr. Pink AND Buddy Holly -__-
Mr. Orange is a 2-bit Aussie thief AND an undercover English cop?
Mr. White and the Wolf could possibly be the same. That seems most plausible.
@@TyroneLambo Perhaps the team in the Diamond Heist were all twins so they could have reasonable alibis.
I've probably watched it 500 times in the past 25 years and I've never noticed Vincent walking to the bathroom until now. Thanks for pointing that out
Its the same as the red in movies. U dont take it on . Everytime vinc goes in if u were real asdute youd knof his bad luck fld continue. Its because he laughed at sam jacks divine inspiration of good luck so he received bad luck. With regards to red in sin city they play with the red showing it could be beautiful but ugly. Theres, a reason ppl remember, royale with cheese the bat dance , the accidental overdose. Sam jacksons gheri curl. The show dials fith real characters yet in a so called pulp fiction world. U thrust into the action of all its stars. Bru e gets the drip on trabolta as his cause more righteous. . Heavily layered, show. Meant to be rewatchable, tight dialogue. I watch the hateful eight as well over n over. Sam jacksons story telling is pictoral n vivid. Every body gets what coming to them in satisfying scenes, dhrngo part two or a companion piece to django
Vince goes to the toilet 3 times, and every time he does something bad goes down. First time Mia overdoses, second time the diner robbery begins, third time Vince gets shot dead.
The sdorytelling is so joid that the characters do real everyday stuff that doesnt, seem out of pla e so u dont sdudy it until u look at it from deeper angles
It is a biblical play but in evesyday gangster character personas. Sort of like someo n juliet, with dicaprio n leguizama. I caught all the analogies once. Its also like dogma the movie. A what if angels or biblical characters talked to themself what wld they say or how, wld they act in situations. Samuel jackson states the two ways the show cld be looked at, . I forget the breakdown once. Samuel sealises hes invincible yet travolta constantly deviates from stuff for a more human exgerience n mistakes just keep hapgening i. E he starts to experience random human occurences mishaps as he goes, against the god charactnr ving fho firgives n eciles bruce willis from his city. But again i forget all the analogies sprinkled through the film.
@@jimzafiriou7808 in all three vingettes hes like a side character or a witness to the event. It is, a genuine shakespaerian drama Him takeing a bath break is probably to snort lines. Didnt even catch that. So hes like the narratoror from xhose eyes the dtory ungolds. He is there wztching xhen vin gave bruce the nixing instructions n probably died beczuse he indulted bruces legacy by saying he knew he was takeung a dive n mocked him. Bruce znger lade him kill the boxer unintentionally n his anger stli made him wantc to kill travolta. Noww remembering the analogy. His watch is likrhis own holy grail that protectd him guides him etc. Notice the foretelling or irony of where the watch was hidden n what he gid to the storeowner. Or w was about to be done to him Poetic justice..
"Don't be a--" RECTANGLE!
God, that had me laughing for so long. Haha
a rectangle can be a square
@@kaisim3428 yes! because that was the point of his comment!
Kai Sim A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not necessarily a square. She didn’t draw a square 🤷🏾♂️
That actually always bothered me too lol. Too long to be a square
But Mr. Krabs, we're not talking about this, or this, we're talking about thiiiiiisssssss
@2:18 When Marcellus calls The Wolf later on in the movie, he gives a physical description of Jules and Vincent, which The Wolf takes note of. So it’s reasonable to assume that Marcellus briefed Jules and Vincent the same way before they confronted Brett and Co.
Fun fact: in a bit of subtle storytelling Tarantino makes it clear that the gun on the counter did not belong to Vincent but it belonged to Wallace, who was tagging along and had taken a break to get coffee and donuts and given the fact you can’t carry around an UZI in public he had to leave it on the counter.
Did Wallace really go with Vincent to Butches place? I always assumed Butch just had the worst luck possible when he ran into Wallace. Also, why would Wallace carry an uzi, he has a pistol.
@@leonpaelinck it’s not explicitly stated but it does make sense why he’d be getting a box of donuts so close to the apartment. Also explains Vincent being caught off guard by Butch. It’s not that he didn’t hear him walking around it’s that he assumed it was Marcellus back from the coffee run and not Butch.
@@Joseph-lj4sp I guess it's possible. Still very dumb of Vincent, like isn't he there waiting for Butch to come home? But I don't question his stupitidy.
@@leonpaelinck yeah it’s kinda an ongoing theme in the movie that Vincent ain’t exactly good at his job between that, him hyping himself up in the bathroom as Mia is ODing, talking without a code on an unsecured line, accidentally shooting that dude in the face, etc.
That would also explain the overkill of bringing an uzi to kill one dude when Jules and Vincent previously took pistols to a job with 4-5 potentially hostile targets.
11:10 Vincent doesn't react to the noise in the kitchen because he thinks it's Marsellus returning from his coffee/donut run
Good point! Love to see a fellow Lars point this out.
Lol, I just typed the same explanation but took two whole paragraphs to say what you did, clearly and concisely, in like two sentences( *SMH* ) :)
Now THAT is a sin on CinemaSins. Thanks for that nugget. Fixed the scene for me.
But that doesn't make sense. Vincent and Marsellus were waiting for Butch to come back to his apartment. At best Vince should have been suspicious that if it was actually Marsellus, he didn't say a word, like telling Vincent he got back. Or is Vincent that dumb that he thinks it couldn't have been Butch... when his damn job was waiting for Butch.
@@sargon6000 We're talking about someone who left his gun on the counter to go to the bathroom while waiting to kill someone. I think it's established he's not very smart.
I always thought Jules reading a corrupted bible version is symbolism to his character. He uses something supposedly sacred, corrupts it, and uses it as some kind of justification for his actions.
And he doesn’t find out what the true meaning is until the end of the movie, the same time he quits being a hitman to find god, jules becomes born again
The actual quote comes from the title sequence of an old movie.
@@amojak the movie is karate kiba or bodyguard kiba starring sonny chiba the quote is at the beginning of the movie as script. the last line is changed in pulp fiction to use the biblical quote instead of "and they shall know I am Chiba the bodyguard when I shall lay my terrible vengeance upon them.' Tarrantino was (is) a big Chiba fan.
He Doesn't Use the Modified bible verse to Justify His Actions, In His On words He said the Verse Because He Thought It Was Some Cold Hearted Shit To Say to A Mother Fucker Right Before You Killed 'Em. He Modified The Words Simply Because it sounded Better. Don't think Jules Gives a shit about Morals, the only reason He Wants to Retire Is Because he thinks His Luck Is Running Out, but He was Just the Harbinger or Vincent's Fate.
You can take a men out of the hood, but you cant take the hood out of a men.
I in 89-91 I lived in the apartment building that the Brett seen was shot in, and I can assure you that someone absolutely could have gotten shot there & no one called the cops, LOL. 1. It was in the middle of Hollywood 2. It was in a REALLY SKETCHY area in the middle of Hollywood (my roommates BF was murdered around the corner from our building, my old janky car was stolen by a homeless person 2 weeks after I moved in) 3. The building had started as a luxury hotel built at the turn of the 20th century & was built to completely different standards than buildings of today. The lathe & plaster over brick walls were so thick & sturdy as to be nearly soundproof. I could play LOUD punk rock music all night long & never bother my neighbors. You couldn’t hear it through the floors/ceiling or outside my apartment unless you were standing in the hall directly outside my front door. It was also RIGHT next to a freeway off-ramp that was LOUD & busy 24 hrs a day. Gunshots could easily go unheard in that environment. 4. It was an old, rundown, dirty, cheap AF building managed by a skeezy creepy alcoholic 2nd rate Boss Hogg impersonator, filled with a random eclectic assortment of very low income goths, punks, bikers, seniors, undocumented immigrants, people on disability, addicts, mentally ill, LGBTQ couples etc who most likely wouldn’t want to get involved with the bigoted a-holes at LAPD if they didn’t absolutely have to…and as someone who was regularly profiled, targeted, harassed, even assaulted back then by LA & OC PD’s simply because I looked wEiRd & listening to anti-authoritarian music, I don’t fucking blame them.
That building in that city in that particular moment in time that the movie is both being filmed and taking place, it’s not at all implausible that shots would go unheard or ignored.
Wow that’s quite the story! When he asked why no one called the cops I immediately thought “because this is a sketchy apartment building and the likelihood that almost every other unit is ALSO doing some sketchy shit is quite high. And people doing sketchy shit (or as you said, people who are undocumented immigrants, drug addicts, mentally ill, etc) don’t exactly want the cops coming around”. (And if you take into consideration that this was, assuming that the movie was set around the time it came out, LA in the 90s, ESPECIALLY NOT THE LAPD) Not to mention I’d bet Marsellus knew this was the case and that’s why he was ok sending them there.
"I find it hard to believe that THIS many women are just standing there touching their faces"
Uh about that...
He never seen a party or a outing
Wait, seriously? So many of you guys do that at once?
KINGD353 I've not seen that before but maybe it's just who I hang around? I actually don't remember if I've seen the movie, but it doesn't look like they're holding any makeup tools or anything so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5:56 Fox Force 5= Deadly Viper Assassination Squad
Kill Bill is based off a throwaway line about a made-up/ cancelled TV pilot, and if that isn't the most Tarantino thing Tarantino has ever done, then I don't know what is.
12:20 The cops don’t show up because they’re all too busy dealing with a diamond store robbery.
Reservoir dogs. I dig 👍
Mr. Quinn hell yeah bruh
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Teo Guez thank you thank you
Only if mr. Orange was the twin brother of “Pumpkin”.
Personal head cannon here but I think the reason there’s a distinct lack of cops in this movie despite all the crazy shit happing is because it takes place during the events of reservoir dogs
They put a sin in just for having Kathy Griffin in the movie lmao. Im dying
He*
She's worth 10 sins.
I had forgotten what she looked like before plastic surgery.
U gotta put at what time so we can 😂 to
@@n.w.native1401 12:06
I watched Kill Bill first then Pulp fiction. Because of this, I instantly realized that Mia's Fox Force Five story is infact QT's Kill Bill story
After all uma is Tarantinos muse
Same
I don't buy this one. Aside from the two groups having different names, one of the DiVAS being a male when every member of the FFF is stated to be female, there's the fact that the Fox Force Five are crime fighters, while the DiVAS are assassins - outright criminals. How are they supposed to be the same group???
@@WakenerOne i think it's not really a serious connection, definitely reminds me of it briefly though.
@@simplyvibinn5417 Officially, the concept for Kill Bill was hashed out by QT and UT on the set of pulp fiction, hence the Q&U credit in Kill Bill titles.
I always thought Jules called Brett Brad on purpose because he doesn’t give a MOTHERFUCK who he is or what his name is.
2:23
Same
Hahaha
Same. I thought it was a part of his headgames
Same. Generic looking white guy with a generic white person name, why would he care about accuracy. His lack of fucks to give would make him more intimidating to someone like Bread or whatever his name was.
Yep, ZFG, man...Zero Fucks Given.
Pulp Fiction is a Classic and oh so good. You missed a big blooper/sin but you touched on it. Has anyone ever noticed that when MIa and Vincent arrive back to her house after dinner, they enter, she puts in the code to the alarm, plops down on the couch and one of the patio doors behind her is wide open?
nope it was not open watch the movie again, it is a double edge door watch it watch it re- watch it
@@jocelynastheart2732 I just checked it out again and there are 3 identical French doors on that back wall and the center one is clearly open. BLOOPER!
@@CapeCodTrainTodd no it is not it is the black color of the side of the door that makes it look open
How is that a blooper?
@@jimmyandersson9938 A blooper is an "OOPS" a mistake in a movie like when an extra depicting a Roman soldier is seen wearing a watch. Mia turns off the alarm, puts on the music and plops on the couch. Unless she let her cat out the door behind should not have been open. Blooper.
Vinces death is absolutely essential to the meaning of the movie. Gold watch sequence is so important the movie changes completely without it.
Yeah I just realized it after the movie finished. Vince would've been alive if he believed that on part 3, both jules and vince survived the shots because of God's intervention. This whole back and forth storytelling has this great cause effects
I’m
How?
@@Jacob-ge1py Jules saw the sign from god and got out but Vince ignored it and was killed.
maybe if vincent had talked to butch in the bar maybe he wouldn’t have shot him🤷♂️
The pop tart scene bothered me too until I realized that Vincent did not expect the palooka to return and Marcellus was out getting coffee and donuts and was expected back shortly. Vincent thought the noise was Marsellus. Simple.
It still doesn't make sense that Butch would make fucking pop-tarts when a crime boss has put a hit out on him and he needs to get out of town
@@isaacbruner65 Butch and Vincent share the tragic flaw of extreme alpha-male cockiness--we see it when they first meet and butt heads in the bar. This mutual trait causes Vincent to leave a loaded gun on the counter while he hits the bathroom and Butch to hang around for a celebratory poptart, leading them onto a collision course. In that moment, the toaster becomes the "clock" (/watch/deus-ex-machina) that decides which of them will live or die--10 seconds earlier and Vincent would have been alerted that someone there and come out with his .45 drawn, ready to deal business. No toilet flush leading Butch's eyes to the Mac-10 on the countertop, and those hard-pipe-hitting M-F'ers would have been putting their pliers to Butch's nuts instead of Zed's.
@@kochaos6129 Apparently the gun was Marcellus' as he left it to get coffee and donuts, Vega had his piece with him the whole time. They both underestimated Butch.
It also shows Jules was the only one with professionalism in mind. Vega was used to his buddy carrying the load for him and Wallace having his henchmen do everything for him, he found it appropriate to get _breakfast_ while they were waiting _to kill someone._ I think that's why Jules tried to convince his partner to quit as well - he knew the whole society was going to the crapper the moment he would retire.
@@isaacbruner65 I mean as shown in the movie it took like a minute for them to be finished so in my opinion it wasn’t really that big of a deal
@@kochaos6129 "alpha male" we aren't wolves or gorillas that shit is cringe
"You're the weak, and I am the tyranny of evil men"
One of the greatest movie quotes of all time.
I had the pleasure of seeing this in the theater and I think decades may have gone by before I noticed Vincent walking by in the opening coffee shop scene.
13:35 He wouldn’t have to ‘explain’ anything to his crew. He’s the boss, what he says just goes, no questions asked.
Right? Such a silly thing to bring up. Whole point of a crew is they do whatever you hire them to do. Or just call it all off when it's taken care of. When you're doing a bunch of illegal stuff you don't go into detsils.
Nah they're still owed atleast something cause if theres a thing like now he owes butch his life then butch basically cant be touched ever but if its just this one time thing then you're free game later
A boss who orders around without making sense is not gonna last
Quentin Tarantino actually asked Kurt Cobain from Nirvana to play Lance the drug dealer but he declined, that is why he looks so much like Kurt Cobain
Tarantino himself was thinking of playing Lance but wanted to be behind the camera for the scene where they inject Mia
This is highly unsubstantiated. Tarantino himself denies this particular rumor
@@Bobhotdog1 that would of been awesome though!
Kurt Cobain would have been a great fit for the part of Marvin, if you catch my drift.
Nah that's some bullshit Courtney Love came up with
Vincent hears Butch but he thinks it's Marsellus returning back from getting something for them to eat.
It's Marsellus Uzi as well...
Butch running Marsellus over is right after this scene after he kills Vincent.
minus 2 sins
Holy shit dude I think you might’ve filled a big ass plot hole
Its a Mac-10
Thank god i wasnt the only one who clocked onto that... marsellus and vincent were waiting for butch to come back, hence marsellus' uzi, and yeah like bolinfoto said vincent automatically assumed it was marsellus so he just walked out n there you go... got uzi'd
@@robbo5894 bruh its a MAC 10
I always though he said "check out the big brain on bread!" I have used that line my whole life 😂🤦♂️
"Strip."
"All the way?"
"To your bare ass."
*Quinton Tarantino's private conversation with Harvey Weinstein somehow made it into the final script*
That's probably more like Quentin Tarantino's private conversation with Uma Thurman
Movie character: sneezes
CinemaSins: he didn’t use his elbow?! 10 sins added!
wow this means A LOT MORE now with coronavirus being a global pandemic
Pablo this is an underrated comment for you 😂😂😂
He adds a lot of stupid ass sins, or at least his team does and hes too lazy to think otherwise
@@Reyeyawn No, it's really not
David Pereira speak when spoken to.
The Fox Force Five show ended up being Kill Bill.. how crazy is that
YES
Remember Mia said that the French Fox's specialty was sex. Maybe Julie Dreyfus refused to get naked and THAT'S why the show was cancelled
I’ve always wondered if that was intentional
Crazy cool😋
He removed 16 sins off this movie. You can tell he loves it.
Conversations about blueberry pancakes is what makes movies like Pulp Fiction so realisticish.
She was trying to hint at him that she was pregnant or wanted to get pregnant. Hence why she also talked about wanting a "pot belly"
Hannah Lane
Can’t believe I never made the connection with pregnancy
Hannah Lane I never thought of that but now it makes perfect sense
"Quentin Tarantino's private conversations with Harvey's Weinstein somehow made it into the final script." This is such a good burn😂🤣 17:45
Harvey Keitel not the other Harvey
Butch: "I specifically reminded you not to forget my father's watch!"
Fabienne: "Well if it's so important, how come YOU forgot it?"
Butch: 🤯
Rekt
This scene is funny as it's a typical disagreement between men and women, but in a life threatening situation. In my younger days I had a couple of situations when a girlfriend insisted on packing for a trip while I was at work etc, and would ask what I needed. Upon arriving at the destination I would find the one thing I specifically asked for wasn't there. When being all "WTF?!" they would reply with "well if it was so important to you then you should have packed it yourself". The feeling is "Sure! But you specifically ASKED to do this and what I wanted!". Of course after this happening a couple of times I always made sure to pack the important things myself. It's a fun scene.
Fabienne would be excellent at cinemasins
You gave a sin for Vincent not hearing Butch, but its extremely reasonable to think that Vincent heard Butch and just mistook him for Marsellus, who we see heading towards the apartment after Butch leaves.
You just sinned cinema sins nice one
Yea that was definitely a rectangle not a square. I laugh every time.
Rectangle or Square, or even a circle-It was brilliant.
Rectangles can be squares but squares cannot be rectangles
Math is confusing
@@FBI-hf1jm pretty sure ur wrong m8: every square is a rectangle because it is a quadrilateral with all four angles right angles, not every rectangle is a square, to be a square its sides must have the same length.
metal stick you probably right I failed 7 th grade math so
@@metalstick7796 every square is a rectangle but not every tesseract relies on the parameters of timespace to adhere to dimensional placement. They can be placed in waves. Whereas squares can transfix their placement on the Cartesian coordinate plane. Moving through the _x_ axis point.
Destroy the old geometry friend, a dark teacher is on earth now. So would you like to see him?
I personally enjoy it when you sin masterpieces. Do Shawshank next.
Also from '94. What a year.
There's very... very few sins for that film. Greatest movie of all time.
@@dsdelboy86 what do you think is or are the best movie/s
@@davidrabb2948 probably the Emoji movie
@@dsdelboy86 Some films have great cinematography, doesnt make them great. It's all about the story im afraid.
They actually DON'T win the dance competition. The trophy is stolen, off screen, in the same way that Butch keys Vincent's car, off screen.
urban legend, tarantino said it's just a jack rabbit slims ad
You can remove another 10 for sinning obvious joke situations and set ups of surreal situations / behaviours... so for a 2.5 hour film to only have 75 sins seems like a good deal
they actually never won the competition they stole the trophy you can hear on the radio in the background you just have to listen closely
Huh?
Travolta is getting even for giving away his trophy in Saturday Night Fever.
Which scene shows this? Like a rough movie time or description? Thanks.
@@richardross1166 after they stole the trophy bro
The scene is during the gold watch sequence, when Butch is heading to the apartment. There are people he passes talking about the trophy being stolen.
14:23 Vincent didn't leave his gun on the kitchen counter, it was Marcellus' gun who had left a few minutes earlier to buy coffee and doughnuts
Where is Vincent's gun then?
Dash22 Vincent uses a pistol, it’s probably still holstered under his jacket
😯😦😧😮😲 I never thought of that!
Why would Marcellus, the boss, act as a trigger man? If he was into getting his hands dirty, he wouldn't have needed to call anyone to help him finish Zed. Vincent suggested they should have more than pistols to handle Brett and the kids. It was Vincent's gun on the counter.
@@rocknrollmonkey8668 you may find it illogical, but it is a fact that Vincent and Marcellus were in butchs apartment together and Marcellus left to get coffee and donuts for them. It's his gun. Vincent uses a pistol
People do rob restaurants. A lot. Statistically in America you're more likely to be shot working the register at a fast food restaurant than working as a police officer.
My first job when i was 15 was at a burger king. We got robbed by a dude with a flare gun while i was there.
Edit: and before anyone asks why we went along with the robbery, are YOU willing to find out what getting shot by a flare gun feels like for someone else's money? Neither were we.
Cluckery Duckery It would probably have been enlightening! Good choice btw.
When my dad was a teenager, the arby's he worked at got robbed. The dude waved a gun at them demanding all the roast beef and bailed when they complied.
Famous Canadian comic had a bit about robbing fast food restaurants.
"Woah...manager is in the back counting the big bills..we will take you to him."
BTW. the movie is clearly talking about traditional restaurants, not fast food restaurants
When my dad worked at a big boys, a couple guys in masks walked in with shotguns and locked everyone in the freezer. My dad kicked out the door, grabbed a knife, and searched the store for the robbers. Mind you, a couple of days earlier a Logan’s roadhouse was robbed down the street, where everyone was locked in the freezer and then shot to death.
Yup statistically being an police officer is one of the safest jobs you can have
As a fighter I can confirm that eating the toaster pastry the day after a fight would be a priority
Everything wrong with "Pulp Fiction"
1.End of list.
As much as I want to agree with you. Honey Bunny yelling two different things has bothered me every single time from the mid 90's to now. Just the 1 sin, fair enough? :)
@@tapoemt3995 I respect your opinion, and Hell maybe you’re right and I’m wrong, but my opinion, is that with two different perspectives, you get two different outcomes/lines - just before this scene,(2nd time) we hear Jules & Vincent in an argument about a conflict of perspective: they were either saved by a by A. divine intervention, or B. a freak occurrence. I personally believe Tarantino meant for us to use this scene to entertain the idea that there is no objective reality, only what the witnesses chose to make of it, after all, we were rooting for the “bad guys” the whole time. Just my two cents.
@@stephensmith7948 I respect that. For me, I bought the dvd when it came out and I couldn't possibly tell you how many times I've watched it. You're probably the same. Anyways, every darn time I heard her in the beginning, then heard her say it later, it just bugged me. Every darn time. Other than that, this film is gold imo. Love every bit of it. Take care. :)
Well, the continuity issue with the bullet holes in the wall of the apartment before the shots were fired is definitely not explained away by perspective.
@@RobertScythe This is true. It''s my favorite movie regardless.
4:52 I'm sinning cinemasins for not mentioning this scene birthing the confused Vincent meme
vincent meme ? u fuking normie , the meme dissolves before the movie ffs
Not everyone is some meme loser
Chris Probst lmao right?? 😂
You don't want remove sin ? I gonna tell cinemasins add sins back if you want more sins . 😂😂😂
every time Vincent goes to the bathroom something bad happens,
Mia overdoses
The diner gets shot up
he gets shot by Butch
If the man had worn adult diapers he'd still be alive?
(there's a mental image for ya!)
The biggest sin is,, a heroin addict can hardly poop 3 times a week.. let alone, 3 times a day
3:38 hahaha, seeing this literally right after watching the Tyson v Paul fight
Thank you for calling out the "Don't be a Rectangle," it's always bothered me that she didn't draw a square
Nathaniel Barlam a rectangle is a square
@@daringducky6236 I think you mean all squares are rectangles
@@daringducky6236
All squares are, by definition, rectangles.
All rectangles are not, by definition, squares.
they were high. not to self incriminate, but motor function is the first to go when you're influenced
@@daringducky6236 No it's not lol
I never seen so many sins REMOVED since I subscribed two years ago ‼️
Guess it's just that good of a movie. I was thinking the same thing.
Dude, they didn't _win_ the twist contest trophy...they _stole it._
That's part of the canon.
My head cannon for that scene was that the restaurants owner and staff knew she was the wife of a big gangster and just awarded them first place to stay on their good side.
i thought you can hear it said on the radio that the trophy was stolen
@@BUSHCRAPPING Yeah I heard that somewhere too.
I heard that, but I don't think people can prove it.
@@jaketheberge1970 Did you see the SIZE of that head cannon?
My favorite movie of all time. Watched it numerous times a year since I was 12 and IVE NEVER NOTICED VINCE WALKING IN THE OPENING SCENE!
One of my favorite moments is when Jules asks Brett/Brad for a "sip of (your) tasty beverage" then proceeds to drink it all, as if saying "you're not going to need the rest of this".
Then why didn't he finish off the rest of the burger as well?
@@BrianRetro Maybe he realised it was a pork patty
That hit the spot!
And also, it's the only scene in movie history that has someone drinking from a straw without the stupid empty sound effects
Exactly. Brett (yes, Brett, not BRAD!) pretty much knows what's coming. Jules is literally denying him his "Last Meal".
Do more classic movies like The Godfather and Goodfellas
There's nothing wrong with Goodfellas or The Godfather you heathen!
@@Robertward111 He's delusional. Get him to the infermary
I (politely) demand more classic movies from before the 70's. Or just any movie from between 1920-1980, there are some good ones but there are also a lot of terrible ones.
This guy doesn't do that. Unless Martin Scorceese or Francis Ford Coppola
Goodfellas was based on a true story. All of what you see actually happened. So any sin that cinemasins would find will be a sin against real life! which kind of defeats the purpose
Vincent probably thinks it’s Marcellus in the apartment getting back from getting coffee
He literally ran out of the ring...straight out the building...he still had his gloves on in the cab...he knew he wasnt gonna be able to make it back to the locker room get his watch if he had it with his other stuff.
how did he open the cab door with the gloves still on? not to mention, what cab driver is in such a hurry they jump into a dumpster to get into their cab?
He could have kept the watch up his ass. It's not like it's never been there before.
Sin 49 should be omitted. Wallace went out to get coffee. Vincent assumed it was him in the kitchen.
Oohhh, that makes sense.
11:11 Vincent and Marsellus were doing a stake out in the apartament, thats why Vincent wasn't bothered by the sounds and ALSO why Butch coincidentally met Marsellus getting some donuts
love the video, however Vince and Mia didn't win the contest, on the radio as Butch walks/sneaks back to his apartment you can hear a news programme detailing the fact that the trophy was stolen from jack rabbit slims. (allegedly, however this could also just be an unspoken hinted at truth just like the fact that butch key’d vincent’s car etc) other than that great video
What! I have never heard that, that's awesome!
i've seen this film 3 times and i have never noticed that detail. amazing!
I looked for it and I can't find it can you post it?
th-cam.com/video/baMEuLAai1A/w-d-xo.html. 12:00. Check this out my fellow fan
I had always thought that Tarantino said that Butch keyed his car was a reference to "The Last Boy Scout" with Bruce Willis...
Honestly, i believe when a movie is really good its difficult not to try to to look for any mistakes in a movie. I had the same problem when watching Knives Out the second time around.