LGR - The Sims 4: Two Years of Meh
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- Rambling about the current state of The Sims 4, after having just passed the two year anniversary of the game's release.
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Music used is from The Sims 1,2,3,4 OSTs
Sims 4 always felt like a downgrade to Sims 3, if sims 3 had better "moods" and multitasking both with shores and socializing it would be a superior game.
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+Une pomme de terre mignon I like your username, cool dead language
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a Robbaz post in an LGR video? Goodness gracious!
i love your videos 😍
I'd be happy if they took Sims 3, upgraded it with features from Sims 2. Having the graphics of sims 4.
Done. Perfect game. Without rabbitholes ofc.
I know this is too much to ask, but still...
omg u are on to something!!
that's what sims 5 should be like!!
I'm sure there are some mods that can add in certain things from the sims 2 into 3, and the graphics are barely any better in the sims 4, other than having a smoother aesthetic and looking a bit cartoonier, so I'm sure there are texture mods that can help you there.....
I want rabbit holes, so long as you also have the option to go into the majority of them. Actually having to follow your sim to work all the time would make the game too linear, and I also want to be able to have professions like in Sims 3 that mostly take place outside in the town rather than in one static location.
No one Nowhere I mean you'd be able to see them but work would be automated, so you could follow them if you wanted to, but it wouldn't be necessary, sorta.
One thing that I've noticed in the sims 4, houses never get burgled anymore or repo people don't come and take your stuff :-/
That's because Sims 4 was turned into a Fantasy Land where almost nothing bad happens. Everything is just stagnant and boring.
Also, firefighters don't exist. You have to buy sprinkler systems instead and put the fires out yourself.
Mhmm.
So true!! I remember playing the sims 3 and always getting robbed!! Sigh the good ole days
+Cameron Johnson Yes and even death is made out to be funny, dying of laughter for example, but you cannot for of grief. There is nothing realistic about the Sims 4 whatsoever.
Bernhardina Hörnstein wow!! That's such a good point u made. I never even thought of that. Maxis has really lost their touch when it comes to what the players want for the sims. It's like they don't care. They just give us the same random shit, overcharge for it and then just expect us to be happy with it and to keep buying or, as they put it, "If we don't make x-amount of money, there WONT be a sims 5". Like what company basically threatens their player base like that. Smh
I’m revisiting this review again and honestly the most fun I’ve had with the sims 4 is CAS. I could make sims for hours but then spend ten actual minutes in the game playing it. Yes, like LGR said, there were some good things about sims 4 that sims 3 missed, but at what price? There’s no real story behind the townies, everyone operates the same. I go back to the sims 3 all the time and always found myself wishing that sims 4 had this and that. Most of my hours of gameplay for this game has just been CAS, which I wish sims 3’s CAS was like that. But that’s about it. Watching this again made me sad because poor baby :( it hurt me to see him so disappointed w the game.
Reignited Light exactly my problem. I create so many Sims but then don't even play them, and when I do, I almost force myself to
It hurts so much to see all of these great improvements in The Sims 4 but have it still ultimately be a lackluster experience compared to The Sims 3. The moodlets, multi-tasking, create a Sim, and building are so good, but the fact that The Sims 4 takes steps back in almost every other aspect just ruins it.
@@sharoosh8723 exactly how i feel, livemode feels so boring that playing it feels forced
this comment right here
Sharon Wuttke exactly
To me Sims 4 feels like im caught in the purgatory doing the same every single day
Lia Valencia does feel that way
I've had Sims 3 since it released. I didn't buy that many expansion packs as they released over the years because I was still a kid and they were expensive. I got the Sims 4 about two years ago. I'd like to mention I don't have any additional packs for that game whatsoever. I created my family, bought a house, and let them work their way up from poverty into wealth. I played this game for 100 hours. I loved it at first. It ran so much better, the furniture finally looked modern, I loved the character creation and Sims could finally multitask. But then over time, my female Sim got more kids and she got older. A son of hers reached adulthood and kept the family afloat. He got married. And I just realized the exact same thing that was said in the video, everything feels like it's the same. The Sims might look wildly different from each other, but they're all the same. Everything was the same neat and grey mush where you could do no wrong but nothing truly exciting ever happened.
Now, very recently, I upgraded my gaming rig and a few days ago I bought the majority of Sims 3 expansion packs (they're so cheap now man, they're all like 5 bucks each). I moved my Sims into the town you get with University life and so far I'm in love. Yeah, Sims cant multitask and it kinda sucks, but they can actually do things. Whenever I try and expand my house I get overwhelmed with all the possibilities laid out before me. Sims 3 has so much more personality, and I say this as someone who couldn't stand the game when it first came out. I'm a sucker for good graphics (I have a PS4 as well, and when I first got my PC I started up witcher 3 on both of them, got really close to my 4k TV, and spent a good 5 minutes switching back and forth marveling at the differences (I could literally count every single hair on Geralt's head)), but unfortunately, there only so much good graphics can do when the rest is just meh all around.
What kinds of possibilities were there that were different from Sims 4? When I watch playthroughs of Sims 3 it looks like the same game.
@@willp.484 For one, sims 3 has more life to it. With story progression, sims you're not even controlling can get married, have kids, move to a new house or a new neighborhood. Sims 3 traits give your sims *actual* personality. In sims 4, traits are kind of pointless. A non-committal sim in sims 4 can still get married. Meanwhile, in sims 3, it takes actual work to get a non-committal sim to fall in love with you. Earning money in sims 3 is actual work. Relationships decay in sims 3, so keeping with relationships also takes work. When a sim cheats on their spouse in sims 3 (and sims 2 for that matter) sims actually react. Cheating felt like it had actual consequences in past sim games. In sims 4, a sim is upset about cheating for 24hrs, and then they're over it.
Cheating in sims 3 gave your sim a cheating reputation, which made it hard for your sims to get into a new relationship. Sims 3 sims started actual rumors of things that actually happened (you'll get a pop up like "did you hear Don cheated and got another woman pregnant?") these rumors had an actual impact on your sims reputation. It also made everything in the world feel more alive.
Breaking up a family in Sims 3 was actually hard. It took me *days* to get a married sim to leave their spouse. Sims 4 sims flirt with everyone, no problem, even if they're married. I want hooking up with a married sim or a sim in a relationship to be a challenge.
Expansion packs actually expanded the game, rather than add superficial things you'll get bored with in a day. Sims 3 Generations alone added so much into the game: prom for teens, the daycare career, treehouses. I couldn't even list them all if I tried because there's so much. It makes Parenthood feel so empty in comparison.
Hell, base game sims 3 had over 60+ traits. By the time sims 3 ended, it had over 90 traits. Sims 4 only has over 30. In 6 years.
Sims 3 sims felt alive. Sims 4 sims feel like robots. Nothing bad ever happens to you in sims 4. No burglars, no meteors that fall from the sky and kill your sims. In sims 3, a sim in the criminal career could actually get arrested. That was funny as hell. Spontaneous events never happen in the sims 4 unless you *make* it happen, which gets so boring after a while. Fires don't even feel as deadly anymore. It's all too easy.
Exactly, the Sims 3 felt alive and organic in a way the Sims 4 never did.
It was rewarding to pursue most of the skills, careers, relationships in the game. Traveling felt like an actual break from the everyday, exploring also had a sort of magic to it. Collecting things felt like something to properly take pride in, and there were so many fun ways to mix it up when one play style started to feel dull. Live mode was actually fun, build mode and CAS were laggy as hell but they had some of the best customization of any game in the genre. So much freedom to be had with the textures and color wheel.
The sims themselves never suffered from the same-y-ness I found when I tried the Sims 4. They all felt like individuals and I liked watching their lives play out.
I admittedly never much messed with the stuff packs after seeing in the Sims 2 that they only added style things, because there was already an abundance of custom content I could add that was (im my opinion) more satisfying.
But the Sims 3 expansion packs almost always made the game feel layers on layers richer. I remember being so excited each time a new one came out and nothing to this day has managed to replicate that feeling.
I grew up with the franchise, and I've played darn near every title they released under the Sims branding (including console titles). Loved the Sims 2, played both that and the original Sims as a kid. Really these games have been like family to me.
That's why it's kinda hard to look at now. Nothing has disappointed me more than the Sims 4. Unfortunately with the way it stands even in 2021, it looks unlikely they'll surpass their peak with the Sims 3 anytime soon.
Also if you read all that I'm gonna drop (what I believe to be) an unpopular opinion: The Sims Medieval wasn't the game most of us wanted but it was a pretty decent game in it's own right.
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"feels like i'm looking at an unfinished theme park" this hits different years later with the star wars game pack
The sims 4 is great for someone who hasn't played sims. However, since started with the sims 3 and own most of the expansion packs already, the sims 4 is a major downgrade. Maybe I'll get the expansions if they go on sale but currently it's just too much of an investment for not much content
Indeed. Been playing the series since 2000.
I started on Sims 4 because it was new. I wanted to play Sims for the longest time. But it was too cartoony to me. So it was just a thought. I do like Sims 4, but after watching videos of Sims 3 open world I was looking forward to that. So that's the most disappointing thing to me.
Truth! You put my thoughts into words well.
It's the perfect introduction. Not as overwhelming in content size, runs much better, is much easier on the eyes, and is so much more "alive" with the new animations and emotions. Although, the lack of depth obviously also really hurts it in the long run.
i started with the sims 3 for the xbox 360 and i think that the sims 4 would be a major downgrade because it cut out a ton of features, made party's into a chore, and got rid of open world when they could obviously do it
Its a shame Sims 4 became meh. I actually liked the new style that was given to the people. They actually react properly and those algorithms are beautifully programmed. It looks so much better than 3 yet it became so dry.
It truly had potential. But Sims 3 was expanded so much there was almost not much left for 4. There is no way 4 could ever live up tp 3 because 3 became this melting pot that has massive shields around it.
+mipmipmipmipmip Yeah. 4 was almost a lost cause. There is just no way you can truly expand without it just being Sims 3 all over again. (And people beginning to complain about that)
+Jason Mayala-Eale Honestly, the way I see it, Sims 3 is like this Climax and everything goes kind of down afterwards. I honestly dont know what EA should or will do.
But if they do give up, I honestly saw it coming.
It's EA, so I have a good guess as to what they're going to do.
I feel like Sims 4 could have been better than sims 3 if they had kept the features from the sims 3
the lack of an open world was the real killer for me
+filmfreak yea it just felt like a step back without the open world
I like how it’s three years later and this review is still accurate
I bout the game for £8, 75% off and I still regret it😭
Even moreso
In my opinion the sims 3 is the best 👍🏻💖
Yes!!! I still play it, I was playing it yesterday 😊
It's definitely my favourite, but the lagginess when you have too much stuff installed just kills it for me sometimes.
Yeah, Sims 3 is wonderful until it chokes to death and stops working.
The console versions are entirely different beasts from the PC versions (that LGR's reviews generally cover), since the amount of expansions you can have installed over the base game make the whole thing absurdly huge and compound bugs upon bugs.
Sims2 was absolutely the best!
I first looked at Sims 4 and I was like "Wow the graphics are awesome! The architecture seems to have improved! I'm ready for this!"
And the game is a step backwards, reminiscent of like Sims 2. And not that I don't like Sims 2, but Sims 3 open world gameplay was just too epic. You could go anywhere and it all felt so connected. I just don't get that from the fourth game. It's so closed off again.
I hope The Sims 5 will be a game similiar to The Sims 3 but with The Sims 4 graphics
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!! Alot of simmers are quitting to!
Which ones?
I assumed you mean TH-camr simmers 😳
+Lottie S I wish, they're all partnered with EA/have been recognised by EA to some degree so they'll just agree with whatever the developers say. I thought deligracy would understand cause she really loved create a style like me but she just goes along with it now :c only LGR isn't part of the hive mind
Lifesimmer for one. But even others are slightly falling off or going over to ther things like Vixella and other people who all specialized in sims but now are doing other things.
+Lottie S reminds me of lifesimmer :(
I would've been happy if they just took the Sims 3, give it new graphics/models then sell it as Sims 4. The only things that I like in S4 is CAS and building mode...
same here :/
Let's be honest, if they did that then everybody would be let down because they wanted something new.
Why they have to make a new game every time? just improve the last one that worked fine. I would have been fine with the first sims. skipped to sims 4 and got that "meh" feeling just after few hours playing it.. :( I would probably bought sims 3 if it was the latest release, now I have feeling I'm missing it because of this crappy sims 4.
+Kodi what killed it for me was the lack of open world, especially when i learned not even on a district level. I tried a trial and it just felt so redtrictive
Same here!
It's 2017 and they've announced bowling and vampires ... really EA? Have you not heard the masses screaming SEASONS, PETS AND TODDLERS for the past 2 years?! I'm starting to give up with them now. I've never known a huge company outright ignore their fan base like EA... bowling could have easily been added in get together and vampires should have been with City Living, they're milking us all dry of cash.. I'm refusing to buy anymore stuff packs now though, how many Ralph's are you going to have to murder 😩😩😫😫
I wrote that comment 7 months ago lol, when there was no announcement of pets
Egyptian Rickster toddlers are already here and pets will be there soon just wait
Rebecca Simss I wrote that post 8 months ago!!! Before toddlers and pets release and announcement.
Egyptian Rickster actually toddlers did come out the same time vimpired did :/
Jalen Kelly toddlers was announced the same day of release on the 18/01/2017. No body knew it was coming it was just dropped on us no pre warning. Pets was only announced last month. At the time I wrote the comment neither were released, or announced so chill yeah?
I remember my twins in Sims 3 had a birthday, they were gonna be teens it was all fun and games to the cakes spontaneously combusted and the dad and one of the twins died. Tragic, but interesting. The next day we got robbed. Tragic, but interesting. Just in the base game of TS3 there is so much to do. In TS4 sure there the CAS and build mode are so much easier but TS4 actual gameplay is boring, half of the time spent playing TS4 is loading screens and it gets real annoying and you just wanna be a lazy couch potato and stay in your house. just to visit a neighbours house you have to go through a loading screen...W H A T?
As someone who has played the game since The Sims 1, I am deeply heartbroken about the franchise right now. =(
I've been playing since sims 1 and I am disappointed.
Same here.. I remember my sister and I taking turns to play sims 1 and always fought about the hour being up and it being the others turn but we watched each other play as well. I kinda miss those days lol..
aw this comment made me smile! I remember doing the same with my little brother
Cities Skylines is the new SimCity, Planet Coaster is the new RCT, and it's only a matter of time before someone comes along and takes over the life simulator. I'm not even sure if we'll even see that, considering the amount of resources and money it takes to develop, but here's hoping. I'm ready for something new.
*life simulator genre
I really wish the producers of CS would venture into Life Simulation - they make a great game! EA needs some serious competitors 😡
The resources for a game like this aren't extreme, well within many small to medium dev budgets, as long as it's open to modding the community will fill in the gaps
I was love to see someone new come around and just do that, but EA would probably take those people to court, they take so many game developers to court over every thing.
I have this vague memory of someone (possibly me) asking Paradox about publishing some kind of "The Sims" like game since they'd managed to cash in on EA's fumbling of Sim City so successfully, and the response was vaguely positive. Of course they'd have to actually have a developer to make a game like that... It's not exactly in their wheel house...
Best things from each game: Sims 1- the humor. I miss the prank phone calls. Sims 2- the aliens in the base game/ being abducted/ all that. I also liked the towns, Strangetown was the best. Sims 3- Almost everything... open world, customization, the expansion packs were on point. I could actually get a sort of story line going in the sims 3. I remember one time I had a sim date a bunch of sims all at once and it got to the point where every time he went out in public someone was running up to him and slapping him in the face. It was hilarious! I feel like the sims creators see how sadistic people can get with the sims and are trying to veer away from that, but.... why? It's fun.
I have had fun with Sims like that as well :)
m1nt3a oh yeah, and it really annoyed me when my sims could never actually get in to public places because other sims would just stand by the door and they couldn't walk around them. I don't miss that.
Oh man, that reminds me of something hilarious I did in Sims 2. I created a guy and let him date a whole bunch of NPCs, all of them were one-night stands. I decided, just to see what would happen, to marry one of them and invite the rest to the wedding party. So I invited all of them plus a neighbor, who was his best friend. Everyone came and surprisingly, they acted quite normal. They even clapped at the ceremony and for a moment, I was dissapointed. Until I decided to let my Sim give his wife a kiss. Just a random kiss. And then hell broke loose. My guests were furious and actually stood in line just to slap him in the face. And all the while, his best friend sat in the background, silently eating a piece of the wedding cake while watching them. I wish I could have such great memories with Sims 4...
Chaosfisch1 that's amazing hahahaha
+m1nt3a THE FUCKING FOOT TAPPING! seeing that triggered me cause I completely forgot about having to wait for 8 years while they sat there tapping their foot when there was nothing in the way
Sigh.....I had I hopes for the Sims 4.....
We all did, Chrissy. We all did. 😢
I'm still playing the Sims 3, About to right now. Miss you much Chris.
+Daethaqt3000 I miss you too. I'm neglecting my channel. I lost my court case so I need to find a second job. I hope you are well
Chrissy Robbins The antecedent? Sorry Chris. I'm getting better.
+Daethaqt3000 yeah. my car accident. now I have medical bills to pay back. smh. I'm glad you're getting better.
This video aged like fine wine.
Okay parrot.
I dislike the Sims 4 so much because all the packs are things that should've been there in the first place. Also dislike the fact that they are going for the more realistic gameplay. I loved the way Sims 3 added super-reality like Supernatural and Into The Future.
Those were the worst expansions.
+Viktor Rucký they were cool if you are into that. I don't like the unrealistic stuff but my daughter loves it.
+Viktor Rucký well it comes down to preference. I agree with you but I believe that they should still have unrealistic things for people who like it so that it's more sandbox.
I still play the sims 3
+kongo is a Doll Sims 2 will always be my favourite
Honestly the sims 2 is still the best In The series.
why?
I was playing it not so long ago and I spent hours on it and I only loaded the base game. 2 is still an amazing game. The details were thought out. It's very obvious that they didn't cut corners for it like they did with 4.
I disagree I still think the sims 3 basically did everything 2 did but better (and more). But it was amazing when it came out.
+James Brandon exactly!
RoastedCatGames I gotta disagree. Sims 3 showed us the beginning of the problems facing the series. Each expansion was just a tiny fragment of what it should have been. The open world was a great concept, but very poorly executed. The color wheel and textures were great, and there was no excuse for it not to be in 4, but there was just something intangible that was missing from it.
Coming back. Here's a question: what should've been in the base game, what should've been free download, and what actually should be expansion?
I feel like the Sims 3 should've been the last sims game with pets and seasons as expansions. Expansions expand on game play already established. Give us something new. Sims 4 is a step back and I don't see why pets and seasons aren't base. Also new furniture and clothing... if I can get it in the modding community for free then why should I pay for it?
Animal Crossing and Splatoon 2 has spoiled me. Splatoon 2 because each update gave free clothes, weapons, and stages. The last Animal Crossing has free DLC that changed how furniture rearranged in your house like Happy Home Designer. Huge upgrade and again free.
...this is why I got the sims 4 when it was free.
Ugh no, Seasons is best pack on Sims 4. Adds more dynamic to the game. But the Cats and Dogs can go to hell.
S C is there anything that actually says that? There could also be that there was bugs with the rain also I think we were gonna just going to get rain and no snow
@@chrismontano9787 it is true rain was going to be in the sims 2, and most likely the idea of seasons too... but the glitch happened so they prolly decided to just include rain in a seasons pack later.
from what I'm seeing The Sims is EA's sinking boat right now and they're just letting it sink. They know they're not making as much money as they are before so that's probably why they're not putting much effort into it as well :/ I feel sorry for you man, I can really hear the disappointment in your voice as you explain all these stuff. We all know how much you love The Sims and we hope EA does something about it too :/
their problem is that they are so stubborn. they spend all day defending themselves & telling us that we have no right to complain even though we are buying their product instead of just giving us what we ask for smh. hats why they are losing money. I haven't bought anything besides the base game and get to work since. I was so disappointed with gtw myself. it came with nothing! & i feel as if dine out should have been something that came with the base game or been included in get together instead of milking us for our money
That's kind of EAs MO. It's weird that they're such a successful company when they mostly just ruin games.
I'm not super familiar with EA's handling of other games (although i'm fully aware they are pretty much terrible) but what has happened to EA game franchises in the past that were in the same boat The Sims is right now? I have this bad feeling there won't be a Sims 5.
Lets go down the list shall we...
Studios EA has closed down and properties
MAXIS: Simcity, Spore, SimTown, SimSafari, SimAnt, (THE SIMS)
BULLFROG: Syndicate, Dungon Keeper, Theme park , Theme Hospital
WESTWOOD: COMMAND AND CONQUER, Dune, Lands of Lore
Mythic: okay this one was reasonable
ORIGIN: Ultima , Wing Commander , Crusader, Strike Commander, System Shock, Wings of Glory
Pandemic: Full Spectrum Warrior, Star Wars: Battlefront, Destroy All Humans!, Mercenaries
Danger Close: Metal of Honor, The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II
Moral of the story FUCK EA.
Exactly WHY the need to add some GAME CHANGING CONTENT TO THE SIMS 4. Seasons, PETS AND TODDLERS. These things should be their main focus in my opinion right now. Which I am sure it is, but again we don't know because they can't talk about it. I haven't given up on the sims 4. But I too need some new content stat and I KNOW I am not alone.
For me, Late Night was my favorite for sims 3. I really feel like the being in a band concept could’ve been amazing. The fame was awesome, going to bars, literally all of it was amazing
The sims 3 is my absolute favourite!
My computer no longer runs it cause of the sims 4 installed 😭
Bronwen Jones uninstall it then
Bronwen Jones i cant belived
I thought the title said 'The Sims 4: Two years of Meth' for a split second.
😄😄😄
That might make the make the game more interesting.
Same bro
Heck, i got Sims 3 with pretty much everything installed (including store content, custom worlds and CC) on an SSD and it's running just fine.
I was a HUGE fan of the sims since I was 1st introduced in the early 2000,s
SIMS 1 WAS AMAZING , then...SIMS 2 WAS EVEN BETTER!! Sims 3 was great but was lacking the depth that sims 2 had but I still loved it for all they offered and the new features was definitely a plus over sims 2. And then sims4 came........and it was never the same. Stopped playing in 2015 only played for a total of 1 or 2 hours. Never cared for a sims game ever again. Sad they lost fans and im one of them. I could go in depth but he did already soo....
Gucci Robinson I agree. I've been playing the game since the early 2000s and played each generation but the Sims 4 killed it for me. You're supposed to feel refreshed after playing a new game, not the opposite.
There may not be a Sims 5.
Penelope416 exactly And tbh i dont care anymore if they never make another sims game again. My love died for it LONG ago ! Its sad cus i had some of the BEST gaming memories on sims games.
Gucci Robinson I hope there is a Sims 5 and it would've improved much more from now.
Agreed! Some of the best gaming moments was with the Sims! That's why I hope there's a 5th generation that can do this!
I started playing the Sims around 2 years ago with The Sims 3, because my mom waits until the next game comes out to get older ones (the secret!). I remember watching her play and being so enamoured by the experience, and when she got University Life, she had later told us her Sim got crushed by a vending machine!
When I started playing the Sims 4, I realized it wasn't as fun as I thought it'd be. My siblings play it because it doesn't take as long to load. I play 3, because it's more detailed. More spontaneous. Things can change at the drop of a hat, and that's the beauty of it.
Additionally, I like the style of 3 better. Cartoony doesn't float my boat. I like that semi-realistic look.
I also don't understand why people say the graphics are awful. I play on medium-low settings...
THANK YOU! I love Sims 3 graphics so much and same I don't like the sims 4 cartoony graphics either
I can only run Sims 3 on lowest setting albeit because i was running a ton of cc I can't live without
It physically hurts me to see the path The Sims franchise is going down. At this point I'd rather them just lay the series to rest so I can remember the good things it brought rather than see the newest money milking method EA has put into practice. I am not excited for the future of this series, unless EA stops milking it and provided content worth the price. Thankfully the Sims 2 & 3 are ageless. I can rely on them for quality entertainment and content.
Robo Bot You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel exactly the same way.
This is such a mood.
unlike the sims 3, the sims 4 doesn't feel like it offers you "emergent autonomy" to go do your own thing. in the sims 4, it's more like you're being chaperoned around to do some clicks at the right time and watch the slightly different animations. like you're being toured through the game world instead of being released in a sand box. did you enjoy your "island adventure ride?" now please check out the dogs and cats ride.
only 4 months left for The Sims 4: 10 Years of Meh
I can't wait 😂😂😂😂
This video makes me glad I didn't bother with 4. From what it sounds like, Sims 4 was practically a supped up version of the Sims 3 mobile games. No depth, no investment, you just made your character and ran him through some watered down version of things you could do in the PC game. For an extra $40 you can get this exclusive couch! For me the Gold Standard is still The Sims 2. I also love The Sims 3, but some of the changes they made bug me, like being able to interact with ghost sims (I liked when they just appeared at random some nights and went all Poltergeist, scaring the shit out of living sims) , or not being able to stack Supernatural creatures (I had a Vampire/Werewolf/Wizard sim in 2 who raised zombies to be his slaves and terrorized the neighborhood. Can't do that in 3), also the social media mechanic they put in for one of the later expansions just got annoying as hell. Plus the game overall is a little buggy, and seemed to get worse with each expansion. But I do love the persistent open world and that any sims I sent out into the world when I had to clear out the active household would actually go on to live their own lives, have their own families, and one or two generations down the line my active sims would have aunts, uncles and cousins running around the neighborhood. Ah, good times.
just imagin sims 4 is sims 2 but remove the cars because they teleport on another lot and remove map editor .
@@dixoisme2601 - They would also have to take out most of the gameplay features in Sims 2 to make it like Sims 4.
I have The Sims 4 installed but I never play it... planning on unistalling it. I still play The Sims 2 and 3 :)
Mark Baanstra
Yeah, it's just that even with some EPs installed, I end up playing for 30 minutes and then I get bored. If it's TS2/3 I can play for hours and hours...
Mark Baanstra
Never? That's strange. I had high expectations when I bought the base game. But after I played it for a while I got bored. Then EPs came out, downloaded them to try them but still never played them for more than a few minutes. After trying 2 EPs I decided to give up completely. Not going to pay attention to TS until a new generation comes out.
Mark Baanstra
What? What are you talking about?
Mark Baanstra
I said I didn't played it? When? When I said that I never play it it's because I was doing a comparison between TS4 and TS2/3. I played it when it came out after buying the base game, but it was so boring to me that I had stopped after only a few hours of playing. Then I tried the first 2 EPs but they really didn't make the game better for me so I ended up just leaving TS4 behind. I feel sad unistalling TS4 cause I had high expectations and I've always been a big lover of TS, but it's only taking space in my computer since I don't play it anymore.
I think we didn't really understand each other...
TRamp94 i have it too , and it's waste of money i don't play it too .
Sims 2 was my favorite. They loved the game back then and had high hopes for it still. The sims had similar to emotions, better than they do now. This Sims needs competition. The creators have gotten lazy. The only thing similar to SIms that will be coming out is "Chronicles of Elyria" It will have similar things to the sims like eating, sleeping, jobs, skills, having kids, growing up, dying of old age etc but in a mmorpg world. I recommend checking it out.
thelostgirl101 Is the game online or like skyrim (please let it be like skyrim) where you buy it?
The game isn't out yet, it will be out around the Fall of 2017. CoE is like Skyrim yes, but much better.
Yes, I'm also following Chronicles of Elyria very closely. Not interested in the combat, just what they offer in terms of life simulation.
Theres a simulation game in the works only known (so far) as project vie. There is absolutely no information out yet except that it is a life simulation. Members of their team have been dropping hints on reddit, apparently they're sim fans too. But it's all very hush hush right now. Glad to know more people are exploring this genre now though.
I bought The Sims 4 a couple months after it came out. I loved The Sims 2 and 3 and I was willing to set aside my frustration at no open world, no toddlers and no color customization because I wanted to be open minded. After I installed it I started playing it... And as I played it for after half an hour I began to get bored. I felt like I was playing a bad remake of the sims 2 honestly. But the sims 2 had personality like the character back stories, whereas this has 'emotions' that don't really affect anything at all.
we need sims 3 upgraded to sims 4 graphics
Exactly! We need a remastered version, I'm so sure people would eat that up and EA would make loads of money. It's such a shame Sims 4 has been so meh.
Yes! At this point, having seen the direction they're going with the Sims franchise, I would even PAY for a DLC that just optimize the game, fix most of the bugs, and make the game run as smooth as it could be.
Nothing else, EA. No need to rework the visuals to the Sims 4 style. Just sell what software developers are supposed to release as a free update. And I would still gladly pay full price for it if it's proven to actually get the job done.
You have no idea what i'd give for your room full of games
My sister was at my house while I watched this and asked if he works at a gamestop. I told her nope that's his house.
You should've considered being more involved in game developing, as a person who has played the sims since the beginning combined with your good critique maybe you could actually help make the game better, not sign any agreements, just give them suggestions on how to make it a better game, you know very well what makes Sims a fun game, but then again I guess your life is very busy.
That's the thing: what they wanted me to do involved contractual NDAs and other details that would by a conflict of interest for someone that makes their living reviewing those exact things. And honestly, I do not believe it would have made the difference we'd all hope for anyway. If I want to simply give suggestions with no strings attached, well, that's exactly what I do already, so it's up to them if they want to listen.
Its up to them if they want to listen. Such a true statement, but at the same time it confirms that they don't really want to listen to us...
I just wish to heck they would listen. Hands down Sims 3 was the best sandbox. In Sims 4 they took a huge step back and took out a great number of standard features found in previous versions. The nickle and dime stuff has to stop.
The lack of expansion packs seem to indicate they realize it's a flop and hopefully they are concentrating their efforts on the next installment.
Thats the problem, they listen, and they also want to do everything we always asked for, but they can't because in a company owned by EA the employees have absolutly no freedom, they can't the sims atm just can't evolve because they have their hands completly tied. EA has a habit to destroy their games, they did it with absolutly every franchise they own, and absolutly every franchise owned by their companies, lets hope someone buys EA, or at least maxis and the sims franchise gets bought by another company.
Sims 4 is essentially Sims 1 HD. But without the Magic pack :-(
I have been playing The Sims 3 for 13 years now and I still have stuff to do. Seriously there are tombs I never saw and awards I never got, sometimes I'm on wiki and there is some article and I'm sincerely surprised at the discovery. With The Sims 4 I got bored with it after 3 hours of playing, even though I had 3 expansion packs. It's just not a good game, I'm sorry, and no amount of pronouns and livestock animals can fix the game. They should just make sims 5 and make it actually good not just another cash cow.
I feel your pain -- I still can't stand how Sims 3 looks but I wish Sims 4 had more content like Sims 3 had.
2 years later still, they actually have... a decentish game that I was prepared to pay money for. It's still lacking a bunch of stuff from The Sims 2 and 3 (and even 1 regarding landscaping) but it's got enough to make it fun. I just wish we could make our own neighborhoods and customise/expand the existing ones. That's the main thing now.
At least the stupid DLC store is gone.
I personally can't stand the cartoonish graphics of Sims 4 - and that stupid smile on every sims face! Gameplay is more important than graphics in a game. If I wanted to enjoy the graphics of sims 4, I can just look at pictures of it - for free! It's practically the same as playing that awful game since nothing happens in the game and gameplay is either broken or non-existent.
2022 : Sims 4 is still MEH
Also, the only thing that makes Sims 4 fun is MODS. So great for the mod community; they're doing something right unlike EA.
Clint, the sad thing is that this video is just as relevant in 2023 as it was when you originally uploaded it.
The Sims 4: Never Ending Years of Meh.
The sims 4: Infinite years of meh
At this rate I don't want to know what The Sims 5 has in store for us
@@Black_Ghost98 You'll get A sim. family slots are $15 "kit" packs
@@Black_Ghost98 "you'll have nothing and you'll be happy" :P
@@reasonablyserious and how right you ended up being too... sims 5 is now cancelled entirely!
I remember one time in the Sims 3, I walked my character over to the neighbour's house to try and ask her out on a date. When I got there, I found an empty bowl of "Brain Freeze a la Mode" on the table, and she had turned into a zombie. So my character then had to book a taxi and go all the way across town to the elixir store and buy an anti-zombification potion, before taking that back and trying to give it to her, without getting bitten himself. After that happened, they entered a relationship.
Now that was a fucking adventure. Granted it was an adventure fueled by expansion packs, but I don't feel like any amount of expansion will help The Sims 4. The fact that every lot is separated by a loading screen makes the world feel so sterile and lifeless. In the Sims 3, you could take your dog for a walk at nighttime and witness a break in, or buy a tent and sleep in a field before befriending a fucking unicorn, because the world was one big, living, breathing world where things happened.
THESE are the sorts of adventures that you remember, that stick in your mind and make the game memorable, that really gives you an emotional bond with the characters you create. The Sims 4 doesn't offer that to me.
Yes
YES YES YES
Don't forget the occasional meteor shower (Ambitions). Just walking mah dog and suddenly "The Sky's growing dark.."
Naruku2121 I actually haven't had that happen yet, and I play this game enough! I dread the day... :D
But still, it's been a good few years and I still haven't done everything there is to do! That's a sign of a good game!
*****
Yeah I'm still having fun with 3 mostly because I got a better PC than what I started, and I'm learning how to improve it so a lot of log issues is going away if I keep making it better.
man i hate the traits system in sims 4, for example in sims 3 if your sim had the neat trait they would clean everything, you even had the option to clean up the whole house if you click on the ground, they would be more likely to clean up their dishes and make their bed, in the sims 4 having the neat trait just makes them upset or tense if something is dirty lmfaoo
Sims 3 vs Sims 4 perfectly summed up in one paragraph. Are you thinking of getting Paralives??
YES EXACTLY. that’s why most of the time i just give my sims the same “music lover, bookworm, art lover” traits cuz i’m tired of giving them traits that just make them tense
In sims 4 you can easily g set bored because,
1. About 60% of a world like city living, you can’t explore.
2. The “personalities” that the sims have are not realistic and only make the sims even more tense.
3. Tbh the sims 4 seasons is the best pack because there is *a lot* of depth and it really looks like they spent time on this pack.
4. The jobs, you can’t even go to where the jobs are. There are only a few that you can actually play live.
5. Same with school
Basically, once EA realizes that these problems that the game has are relevant then the game will be much better but I don’t see that happening unless they open their eyes.
•_Moon Mango_• how do you get bored from point number 3?
Basically they just made it so your sim can have anxiety, instead of a personality trait.
2020: Still 6 years of meh
Yeah, unless you wanna buy three new games worth of DLC's
@@minedantaken1684 even with the dlc, it's still pretty meh
September 2020: 6 years of meh and a literal rebellion with Journey to Batuu, which I'm still waiting for Clint to evicerate. When a pack makes Into The Future look good, you've really messed up.
@@nolan1915 I agree. I'm not defending Journey to Batuu, just bringing up the fact that I haven't seen a backlash this bad since Katy Perry Sweet Treats.
@@guguy00 he said he wouldn't review it because he would just be repeating himself😅
I so agree with you! The Sims 4 seems so cool at first, but then you start feeling this sense of emptiness. Nothing you do really matters, or has any real impact on the game world.
All my families seem the same and it is really hard to loose yourself in the game for more than an hour.
Martin Gulbrandsen yea. At first I was angry with the graphics because ts3 looked literally human. In ts4 your sims look like cartoons. However I do like how the lighting effects the furniture and makes it look 3D and modern in a way. I just wish that they would make it an open world like ts3 cuz it was fun watching my sims roll out into town in their little cars and I have to admit ts3 could have been better in ways too like better clothing furniture and hair styles and that when you had toddlers and babies and only had one adult in the car to drive but couldn't cuz they had to hold the babies so they had to take a taxi also you could also hold one baby in the taxi. I wish there were car seats and that you could hold 2 babies at once. I also hate how the game would lag and run suuuuuppppper slow. It's annoying cuz there's so much to do in s3 but the game just doesn't work well enough for that. I wish toddlers were added to s4 they would be so adorable and I love how the babies look in the sims 4 instead of looking like a burrito.i like how children can interact with the babies in s4 and how they can get jealous of the new baby, I like that feature cuz I think every older sibling can relate to that. And I like how when you give them bottles and change their diapers you can actually see the object in the hand but I just hate how the baby is bed bound it can't be taken around the house it's only taken out of the crib just for a 5 sec interaction.
Sounds just like real life.
DemBagels toddlers are in the game now
Martin Gulbrandsen no open world,no driveable car,and etc
I miss the sims 3 newspaper. The announcements of births and deaths and local sports games. It was awesome.
I miss the school dances, graduation, curfews, and burglars. They might seem like little things to some people but it made the game interesting and more enjoyable.
It gave the game personality. It felt like your normal life. It made me so happy.
+Lady Lamorna Yeah, exactly.
Yeah but there was so many rabbit holes. You couldn't even see what was going on. That was one of the few things i hated about TS3...that and lag.
+Lady Lamorna it made it a life simulator. Which is the whole point of the sims.
I'm so disappointed with the sims 4 and if I could load the sims 3 decently with all my mods, I'd be playing it daily
The Sims 4 only runs well because there's barely anything in it.
Lmao best comment ever
The Atomic Cherry true
Lmao, theres a lot of shit in it. Also, ever heard of mods?
Noodle, The Sims 3 still has a lot more shit in it base game vs. base game, expansions vs. expansions. Sims 3 had mod support too, this isn't something you should judge a game with because this comes from its player base and not from EA.
Kostas123GR2 jesus, I mean I already prefer sims 3 over sims 4, but I play sims 4 on an HP notebook and with alot of the settings on low, before you go say "YEAH BUT ALL THE SETTINGS ARE ON LOW!" well, the only packs that I don't own are toddlers, fitness pack, and jungle adventure and yet I even have the Sim quality on medium :/ and it still runs smoothly.
They claimed in the beginning the Sims 4 would be silly and full of life and that's exactly what it's lacking. There's no exciting and or random events, burglaries, or strange things like previous.
L Arcturus true
the npc's have personality now. it shows in their outfits.
+Harvey I hope you are just being sarcastic.
DoomDesire666 my first neighbor was a single lady. she was freaking off at least every other day. my other neighbor got evicted and lived in the hallway. he would sneek in while I was at work. id come home have a fist fight with him and kick him out, before I learned how to lock the doors
one day the girl asked could she use my shower , because hers was broke. I tried to seduce her, and only got a kiss before she left, about 3 hours later she was back at her house having sex again.
the guy who got evicted, wound up dying in the hallway, and for some reason they gave me his urn. of course he haunted me after that.
this was in my first apartment..
Harvey In the flesh lol I’m lost
The 4 stages for me:
The sims 1: Wow! I like this game. I hope they release another one.
The sims 2: OMG! This is great! Can't wait for the next one!
The sims 3: Hands down my favourite game. Take my money EA.
The sims 4: Give me my money back EA.
sims 3 rules with an SSD and running NRaaS.
Sims 1 = Great
Sims 2 = also Great
Sims 3 = glitchy, ive never got this one to work right on any of my pcs over the years
Sims 4 = i haven't played it and don't really want to to be honest, ill stick with 1 and 2
@@majamystic256 Just make sure you run the Sims 3 NraaS mods: www.nraas.net/community/Mods-List
@@rixxy9204 A game that requires fucking mods just to run is broken. Sims 2 was and still is the best.
@@petervenkman9838 It doesn't require it but it is great to use.
Tbh it sounds like youre breaking up with sims 4
Haha, that's not far off
I might try and ask EA to cease sales of TS4.
Yeah right? "Maybe it's not you, It's me. I think I have changed..No, you have changed and I don't like you as much as I did."
Am i the only who prefers the graphics in sims 3? Sims 4 looks way childish and cartoonish.
Oo K I'm still with the Sims 3 😊
Sims 4 is more like a dollhouse and less like a life simulation.
Having played both, you're right! For me both are fun.
It's actually funny that "Dollhouse" was a codename for The Sims
that’s not how I played dollhouse. It was less S4 and more Wicked Whims but okay
Yeah, the game's too easy to manipulate. I always hated how it's a "life" simulator but it's easy as hell.
@@lilybraden3957 current year trashing out don't care add to other
Totally agree, when my sim's husband was cheating on her, she just stood there feeling sad and did nothing
If that happened in The Sims, The Sims 2 or The Sims 3, there would have been a big fight!
Oh that drives me mad. A) They don’t cheat unless I direct them to. In previous games, Sims would flirt autonomously and I would be surprised by their actions. B) When they do cheat, their partner just stands there with a ‘Sad’ moodlet and a very slight decrease in relationship. No anger? No fight? No heartbreak? Really? In previous games there would have been a massive bust up! It’s ridiculous.
and a memory
@@melodyseverything6999 and a break up, and sims neverending gossiping about the cheater
@@felmargego2534 and your reputation would be tanked so folks could even heckle you on the street
I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE SIMS 4 is that the game is predictable. That was not the case with past sims. The sims is supposed to be a simulation of every day life, and in life shit happens just random. You have a lot of control in the sims 4 and that's why is not interesting.
Predictability's the mother of boredom.
Exactly, too much control is just bleh
Wouldn't say it's a simulation of real life, but more whacky and sitcomy. But yes unpredictability is the source of tension and drama. But i guess EA sees the franchise as a wish fulfillment game these days, on account of the economy and shits
I felt like the game play was slower. Too much time micromanaging and watching mundane tasks compared to sims 2.
@Sky Dome I find Sims 3 the best balance. If the needs are critical the sim just deals with it, but the game isn't as bland as Sims 4... just walk around town and things happen, like a neighbor having a party. If you have Late Night EP you can just go to dance club and rock all night until the sun comes up.
The game fking rules.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this
i think this as well
Same👍🏻
seriously your not the only one. there are tons of people who think sims 4 should have been better.
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Same here
Pretty disappointing how at 5.5 years 90% of things said in this video still hold up. So little improvement has been made 😔
It's 2018 and this video is still relevant to how I feel about TS4.
Yeah. 2019, re-bought sims 3 recently, after messing about with the sims 4, and honestly sims 3 is the better game. I kept getting bored in 4, but not in 3.
Cute Dark Arts I begged my parents for it so I got a laptop for sims 3 and got all the expansions and the cc
Cute Dark Arts Sims 3 is on sales now, and I’m wondering if it crashes a lot while using it?
@@Isabel-dm1gy I got it a few days ago and have put about 40 hours into it with no crashing.
@@XLynnsanityX I ended up buying it. It runs perfect! Thank you
It feels like it's a watered down or washed down version of The Sims 3.
I %100 agree.
+CherryPie 100%*
More like a pale, watered down imitation of The Sims 2 by people who didn't understand the game. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a lot of executive meddling from EA (as a result SC 2013 bellyflopping, partly because of executive meddling) and too much reliance on focus groups
Sims 2,3 are the best of the series
Its more like a modern Sims 1 without some of the fun stuff of the Sims 1.
It has elements of both sims 2 and 3 but I think its more like Sims 1.
Five years later.... the game is largely buggy and shallow.
Are you thinking of getting Paralives whenever it’s released?
ID FK mmmmm idk. I need more info on the gameplay
Ivana Taylor Ok Yh fair enough
Update: seven years later... the same is true
The Wedding DLC got released a while ago and oh boy oh boy.
Okay but can we talk about the damn prices of these expansions that seem like they should have already been in the base game?
Thats more a problem with the entire series though, the expansions have always been expensive.
its just expansive
@@ryan-wn1qu Eh, not quite. Go back to Sims 2 and 3 and you'll see some things were part of the base game. Sims 4 just chops up each pack from sims 2 and 3 and sells each part and content it into several different expansions. So technically we're paying more with the sims 4 than the previous series just to get the same content from previous games
not gonna lie, you're straight up adorable and i love you and your videos a lot. i'm a simmer, (strictly, i don't have the time or money for any other games, or interest for that matter), so naturally i've watched all of your sims videos, a dozen times over. i just really appreciate your snark and sarcasm, it's incredibly refreshing to see honest reviews. especially on the Sims 4 topic, i agree with everything you said. Truly, the last two years really have been just meh. Keep rocking. ❤︎
Thank you!
Turquoise Cheetah why does she need an excuse to not play games that she just doesn’t want to play??
apenguinnamedabraham she has a dick?🤤
Top Hat Cat Wow... You just exploded to a whole new dimension
no wonder why all sims players have either become builders or CAS. we don’t really have a choice when the live mode simulation runs so lackluster. live mode feels so forced
I literally just spent 4 hours on Sims building and creating the family, I didn't even play it 😭
I enjoy CAS and building too, the gameplay bores me too fast
There is a simmer (forgot her name) that play with story/plot she made, like Cinderella who struggle living her life while dealing with her younger brother and her evil sister and so on.. but the way she played the plot it's like she need to micromanaging every step/every interaction so it could reach the goal of the story, and not letting the Sims itself working by their traits, the story is fun but she need to micromanaging everything that is very noticeable and kinda meh, just like a doll house xDD.. I'm watching from her short video btw there is a few part of em
I think I've worked out why I love LGR's videos so much. He never trails to railroad anyone into his way of thinking, he simply expresses very sincerely his thoughts about a particular subject in a way that endears to almost anyone regardless of their own opinion. I feel that even if I was a major _Sims 4_ fanboy I would still have the utmost respect and validation for Clint's perspective. He is an awesome non-hateful dude, and wish more gaming youtubers and gamers in general had a little bit of his civility.
He's pretty much the only simmer on youtube I'm subscribed to, and trust enough to always go back to. He's always gonna be honest, he doesn't exaggerate his thoughts or gameplay for show, what you see is what you get.
Having not touched this franchise since The Sims 2 Deluxe Edition on PC was new until The Sims 4 PS4 during the COVID-19 era, and now going through the rest of his DLC videos to determine which packs are worth getting piecemeal when they go on sale, I have to appreciate his resigned attitude towards this iteration. His opinions towards what I am NOW sensing is the most feature-dry numbered entry is nuanced, forgoing "journalistic balanced" in favor of just a simple, honest and strictly personal assessment and personal assertiveness.
I can't appreciate the near-obligatory dick measuring attitude that seems to go with people saying The Sims 2/3 was better, which seems to plague EVERYTHING with an opinion online in the 21st century. I'm very sympathetic to their gripes (because EA can't be trusted, and franchise rot is definitely a thing), but not to the attitude with which they express them.
I'm loving my PS4 experience so far, but it's not like I don't think whatever gripes he has with The Sims 4 isn't valid because I'm having a good time. I want to think of myself as a person of nuance, so I deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeefinitely see where and why everyone has little to no respect for this entry into the franchise, as there are definitely moments where my brain has picked up on the bullshit as well. I'm with everyone in hoping that, if The Sims 5 becomes a definitive thing with the next generation of video game tech rolling around, EA allows Maxis to be Maxis, and not just another EA studio. But until then...
It's fine.
It's just fine.
Not great.
Not terrible.
Just... ehh.
It pains me to agree with this. I am really, really disappointed with how the Sims 4 turned out, especially after how amazing it was made to look. Like most people, I'm super mad they still haven't included toddlers.
The Sims 3 will always be the best in my opinion.
Yeah... TS4 is definitely NOT a TS2 remake.
What! There's still no toddlers?! i haven't been interested in sims4 ( loved the other ones ) at all so i didn't know. wow iv'e lost hope... The fact that they said that if sims4 wasn't a success there wouldn't be a sims 5 seems to mean that this is as good as it gets
+Charlotte I think that whole "won't be a sims 5" thing was an empty threat. They wanted fans to buy and support their product...it was a lousy move on their part because now nobody likes the pos sims 4 game and subsequently cares whether sims 5 will get made or not..
+Mercilex TS2 remake with enhancements will be overwhelmingly successful... Unlike TS4's state.
+Alethia Haryanti Yup, my suggestion to a possible Sims 5: make it basicaly like Sims 2 and add the best of the others.
really sad to come back to this video and realise it's now been 6 years of meh. I have way more fun playing ts2 these days... there's no excuse for a 6 year old sims game to be so soulless
Are you thinking of getting Paralives whenever it’s released??
@@GG-xcx9z I am...sims isn't the same for me 😢 all the great stuff they took out feels so empty now. Even if they added new things and the expansions are so expensive even though alot of the expansions should be included in the base game like parenthood or seasons or the get together 🥲. If there's a nother expense with the new sims 5 with the changes EA is making, I'm most likely not purchasing sims 5. The entire game is already costly as it is and not even worth the cost because of bugs, lacking soul, and again should have been in the base game 🙄. I'm looking forward to seeing what paralives brings. Love sims since the very beginning it's just been disappointing fr for the last several years 😕
@@mavietresbelle1310 soooo true I feel you so much that’s why I only play TS3 now
@@mavietresbelle1310 and Yh I’d rather wait for Paralives than sims 5
I honestly don't know how EA managed to fuck up such a successful franchise. I mean, I play The Sims since the first one, when I was only about 8 years old, and loved it ever since.. Up until The Sims 4. Taking out the open world? No pools or cars within the game release? No freaking cars TWO YEARS after the release? And that build mode? It was so advertised, but just COME ON... No terraforming?? No lakes, no constrain floor elevation, no mountains? And where the hell is all of that fun I had matching textures from items from different sets, just to get the room looking as I wanted it to be? I mean, I still play The Sims 3, even though I've got all of Sims 4 packs downloded and installed, just because it's way more fun to build and play all by itself. I feel like absolutely ALL of The Sims previous games were in a much, MUCH more advanced level than this one on their two-year anniversary. That is just a shame. Here's for hoping The Sims 5 comes soon and as a better, or if I may say, a GOOD game. And RIP The Sims 4.
Wait, there's no building cheats? No constrainfloorelevation? No terraforming? Are you kidding me?! That's ridiculous...we already lost CAS.
No man, there's none of that. I love building in The Sims, I do that even more than I play the simulation at all, and without terraforming, constrainfloorelevation, texture editing and all of the great features they had since The Sims 2, or even The Sims 1 (even that had the terraforming tool) all of the builds in TS4 look really similar, there is currently no way of making a truly unique build, it's just ridiculous. And the tools that they introduced are messy and glitchy as fuck. I still enjoy Sims 3 way more than Sims 4, and I don't see that changing in the future.. I can only hope that Sims 5 will fix all of that and bring back that magic and fun of the series, from simulation to building!
Bruno G. Lopes
That's insane! I'm the same way, I'll spend hours a day making houses I've seen in real life or in my head. Love all the customization. I'll actually play the life simulation part for maybe an hour in the house I worked so hard on. I've just now started using the constrainfloor cheat and currently screw it up everytime, but I'm learning and I like that such powerful cheats are available, even if it takes practice. What a disappointment, I guess I'll cross my fingers for TS5.
Yes man! Fingers crossed here too! My advice is for you to stick to Sims 3, I regret every single cent I've spent with TS4!
Bruno G. Lopes
I'm downloading the free 48 hour trial, I almost bought it but looked on here and decided to try it first. Wish you could get your money back though!
Sounds like you're having a sim-life crisis
Sorry for the bad pun lol
Bad puns are good puns
and now I am imagining a Simlish version of the Faith No More song because of that.
Katy Perry's best lyrics yet....
I've been a simmer since the first Sims 1 came out when I was 10. Loved every single game and was so excited for 4. Didn't want to admit how disappointed I was until the latest expansion came out, and I realized how empty everything felt. It looks pretty and clean and well thought out (kinda), but it was pretty saddening. I have concluded that maybe aside from Seasons or Pets (and probably not even then), there's no real hope for Sims 4 to get to the level of Sims 3 or any previous game. I finally went back to Sims 3 after 2 years of trying Sims 4. Hopefully a Sims 5 will still be possible... and will bring back what we loved about the Sims.
Same same same ..im so disapointed with the sims 4 . I NEVER bored this game and now with sims 4 i dont find something interesting about it 😥 so sad cz im addicted to sims and i dont want to give up...
Hopefully if they make a Sims 5, it will be an open-world game, because I can't stand not having that.
hatsuharu333 I got the 24 hours playing reward 2 years after they launched the game, dissapointing
hatsuharu333 I love the sims 3 but it's so laggy on my laptop I can't play it anymore. :(
Going from open world to dinky limited areas was like going from a water park to a puddle. Picking the puddle only makes sense if you're the most easily amused toddler on the planet.
I'm thinking about going back to Sims 3
Same
i went back to sim 3 and it runs amazing on my new laptop
TaroTea I'm going back to 2... remember I had a modern and a medieval game in there... my sims 2 game was the bomb
I went back a long time ago, and I haven't really missed TS4 :P
I never went to sims 4
What suprises me most is that those sims 4 youtubers treat the game as godlike, and seem to never mention its flaws.
*glares at Andrew Arcade*
Because their getting paid and they get early access to the new stuff packs and expansion packs.
They are paid for it now it's even harder yo get in on than when this video is up simmers who have said blank is a bit lacking who aren't veterans of the kiss up to ea game. They loose all opportunities if even one complaint
Asuna Gumdrop because some people might actually enjoy the game.
RT gaming doesn't like it he made 1 video complaining and only plays Sims 3
LGR, 2016: "Death is too hard in this game"
EA, 2020: MURPHY BEDS
Murphy beds are from TS2 but it was rare to die using them
EA, 2020: we are tired of doing the Sims, knowing they have started hating,let's make eco living, the one they will hate the most and let's release it in the same time as paralives trailer
Hexy Ko they were in sims 3 as well
@@supernova-o3i Eco Living? Nah. Batuu.
@@supernova-o3i batuu just passed eco living
okay, I'm just going to throw this out here: sims with an open world like gta
that is literally my dream. I don't care if it only happens when I become an 80-year-old grandma, i promise you, im going to lose my shit
I have requested that as well :)
this would be amazing... Like just knowing that ANYONE you see on the street you could start a relationship with...sick man. A game like that will totally happen in the future though, games will just get better and better aaaand better :)
have you not played sims 3??
Agreed!
I honestly agree with this, this is something I want. that and maybe a first person sims game.
2019 update: 5 years of meh!
2020 updates: 6 years of meh!
Testify brother!
- Andy
the only improvement sims 4 made to the series is the camera, after playing the sims 4 its hard to go back to using the sims 3 camera
2021 update: 7 years of meh!
My problems with the sims series is all the expansions and packs. The game is ridiculously expensive if you want everything. It's like the game is all split up and you don't get a full game without emptying your pockets.
i dont know if this is an option for you, but i got the whole sims 3 set on ebay. idk if what they do is even legal, but i buy the origin codes off ebay for like, not even a 3rd of the price. the highest rated ones are usually more expensive, but i got the base game and pets together for less than £20, and i recall buying showtime for £3. its soooo much cheaper than spending £200+ on the full set, and it doesnt really matter now since sims 4 is out so not many people actually go out and buy sims 3 anymore :)
TheNellehFox I bought all but one expansion pack from g2a.com There were some that only cost a little over a dollar and the most expensive one I bought was six dollars. Not sure what the prices are now because they change depending on who's selling them but they were all EXTREMELY cheap on there.
There is a way to get the lot stupid cheap. There a website called G2A you can get the packs for really low prices, most packs range from £3 to £5.
Takehaya Susanoo You're about two months too late with that info m8.
Cracks can save your lifeee~~
I play the game with crack because dollar is so expensive here.I-I don't even want to talk about euro..Oh god.
But I bought Generations,Seasons and University Life soooo...
I did a very kind thing to EA since they suck.
Honestly I knew right from the start when they said they were removing all the best features of the third one and the only thing they replaced it with were "emotions"
Games fucking lame sims 3 is still better
The thing EA regretted to see in the game is that there already were emotions in the Sims 3. It may not have given them stupid walking animations or made their lip quiver while they ate their burnt burgers, but it was still there. They got embarrassed after peeing themselves. They felt happy after getting married. They felt uncomfortable when they were stressed from work. I'm surprised they pushed "wacky emotions" when they should have been marketing it based on the conversation system, the CAS capabilities, the lighting system, and the new graphics.
I know I'm coming in late, but I just want to say, you hit the nail on the head when you said it's like eternal god mode rather than a life simulator.
I enjoyed and employed a frankly obscene amount of cheats and mods in TS3, but part of that enjoyment was that even if I cheated, I HAD to do something extra to make things ridiculously easy. Sims could die, they could go broke, *accidents happened* even when you paid close attention. The game wasn't hard, but it also wasn't something where you could just leave it (unmodded) to run for five hours and expect to come back to anything but a major crisis. TS4, I leave it running all the time. I have to because it takes forever, but even then, after leaving my sims unattended--there are no fires, there were no fights, there were no accidents; they didn't go to work but also NOTHING UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Nothing!
There is no sense of the random in 4. There is no wonder, there is no watching sims live their lives with a little nudge. The traits don't seem to close any roads, only make some (already easy) paths easier. The emotions COULD pose major obstacles or provide major benefits, but as you said, it's absurdly easy to manipulate them. Even after the DEATH of a CHILD, a sim is no sadder, really, than you want them to be.
And as you said, it can take FIVE HOURS for them to get through a meal. Parties with goals are nigh impossible because it takes them SO LONG to DO anything.
It's all just very frustrating. I wanted to adore this game, but every time I drag myself back, telling myself to give it another chance, it just feels like so many animations and as you said, window dressing without depth. The world doesn't change. Your sims don't matter. Their relationships and businesses and jobs don't matter. What they do doesn't matter.
It all looks very clean, it looks polished. But if I wanted a dollhouse I'd get one.
Ellie B. Well said
I like the risk in TS2. You go to work, a chance card appears and then BAM, you're fired.
"if I wanted a dollhouse I'd get one." So much TRUTH!!
You guys are likely waaay too young to recall but it is like The Sims was "Times Square'd." .. Back in my youth, Times Square in NYC was a hell hole of nasty .. these days it is clean, safe and boring as hell. Disney-fied, if you will. Well Sims 4 "disney-fied" the Sims franchise and I hate it. It is the old sims games for me or nothing. But .. as I explained previously, I will buy it on the off chance EA pulls its head out of its butt in the next version. (*insert "Dreamer" by Supertramp here*) Ya .. I know .. I am an idiot. ; )
Wil Moore Too young and also in a completely different country, but yes, I get you entirely. Personally, these days I only boot up ts4 if I want to play around in build mode for a little while.
I love the sims 3 way more than sims 4, but I got into sims 3 right after into the future was released. Sims 4 released, and by then, I had a lot of hours in sims 3. I picked up sims 4 and it was just... boring. Nothing happened, my attention kept waning and waning until it was just gone. I kept telling myself that "the next expansion will make it better", but it never did. I'm done with sims 4 until right before 5 is released, at which time, I will go on a shopping spree for all the expansions and game packs, and if it still sucks, I will not expect any better from sims 5.
They've lost so many players, its hilarious.
yeah I regret getting the Sims 4. Sims 3 in way better!
Hopefully all of the hate they're getting means they will put a ton of work into the sims 5 and make it top the sims 3
I'm trying to hope for that too but sadly Ea likes to dissapoint D: ,maybe we could riot?
I wouldnt say 50-60 hours worth of enjoyable gameplay is bad compared to what you get in today's games
Nastja Klemenc Mods aren't gone
I don't care about The Sims...
I care about LGR tho baby
Hey you're that guy
me neither, that's why that look on it was especially interesting to me ^^
+David Homan dark man guy person... maybe he reviews stuff
Heyyy, its Indiemaus! the Dark Souls guy!
oh boy, didn't think to see you here. I think LGR needs a panflute intro ;)
Hey, guess what?
It's over a year later and we're in almost exactly the same position.
This is the most horrifically accurate Sims review ever.
It's 2019 now, so now it's been "three more years of meh".
c0rrupti0ns I finally just bought it because it was on sale on origin for $5.13. Totally worth the $5. No way in the world was it worth $60 for the base game considering it didn’t have pools or toddlers when it launched.
Anon Ymous I got it for free on Origin last week ...
@@missliss2581able - I got it for free at Origin too. EA just got desperate!
(1 year later)
*WE HAVE L SHAPED, U SHAPED AND CONFIGURABLE STAIRS NOW*
2020: this is going to be six years of meh. How are they going to butcher the 20th anniversary of the Sims?
Well.....
Here you get a hottub you could already make! Oh you wanted us to fix the sims 3? Give sims 2 better graphics? Nope, sorry hottub it is.
Again, meh... a hottub...
Oh honey.... have you seen eco lifestyle yet? Cute island living re-skin EA!!!
@@xXkatiegoesRaWrXx Island living gives you solar panels?
I feel that Sims 4 died the death of a thousand cuts. Nothing is really terrible about it, but every aspect of the game is just a bit lacking in one way or another, which all added up together make for a disappointing game.
"Nothing is really terrible about it"
I think there's one thing that's absolutely terrible about The Sims 4: the way it handles worlds/neighborhoods. Not only you can't create your own, but you also can't customize the existing ones in any way. You can't add or remove lots, you can't add/change deco and trees, nothing. It's literally how TS1, a game released almost 20 years ago, handled neighborhoods. Probably the biggest and most offensive downgrade.
Nahuel yeah, you had so much more customization for the neighborhoods in sims 2...
That is a really good way to put it. And why this video's title is so accurate. Its just... meh. It's not *bad* but it's not good and its certainly not as good as past Sims. Its just disappointing all over, regardless of the fact that there's like a million expansion and game packs since this... yeah. just sad lol
The tasteless game
@@veertjebeertje13 modder disappoint don't care about the sims 2 adding into the future done
imagine if they remastered sims 3 to make it run better. dude that would be amazing. like the graphics improved and it ran better
We. all should write them about that.. Please just remaster the Sims 3 and we'll be happy
Hell if they gave it the release price of the sims plus a bit more for expansions or maybe more easily done a “graphics expansion” that covered the general cost of redoing all the graphics to be more modern it would be so much more successful than the sims 4
Combine some aspects of sims 3 with some aspects of sims 4 (graphics, vampires, supernatural stuff in general) and you’ve got an amazing game
@Kieran W wait I thought they werent making a sims 5
They're updating the Mac version of Sims 3 which should make it more stable with extra expansions so I think that'll be the ultimate game to play
I'm going to go and reinstall sims 3 again because you just made me realise how much i dislike sims 4 hahahhaha ty
+Just Me lol same
3 is the best game by far but it crashes and corrupts so often I can hardly play it :C
VIØŁΛ I hear about people having Sims 3 crash a lot yet in my 80 hours of playing it I've had no crashes at all
***** Do you have many mods/cc? That's probably why my game started crashing so often (even on my high end gaming pc) but I can't play the game without it :s
And what is this ''high end''
I’m happily married with the sims 3. No regrets… 11 years playing it and I’m still in love with it.
Can you please design Sims 5?
Just go in there, kick them all up the butt and tell them what's what.
We didn't need sims 4, we needed performance issues being fixed in sims 3 and those rabbit holes removing.
Yes! I would like Sims 5 to be a redo of Sims 3, debugged. They should have just built on it. It had potential, 3 was just super glitchy and laggy.
I hope Sims 5 or other upcoming brands would shift back to life simulation again like in the previous games especially the Sims 2 and 3. Sims 4 just feels like a Facebook game to me.
Lily He just giving the sims 3 a new skin, new graphics would be rlly lame. Every sims game is unique. For example ts3 didnt have parenting skills or any depth into parenting whil ts4 had exactly that
Shall we even mention the relationship culling and sim culling they added in? Sorry but worst idea ever. Sims 4 will delete your whole family, your significant other, their family and your employees without your consent. How about Sims 4 Beloved reward trait that is "suppose" to stop the decay of relationships but that's after completing an aspiration. Oh, but that's also the same reward trait that's been broken for a few patches now.
ARE YOU JOKING?!! That's insane!! That to me makes the game untouchable...
Hadn't heard of this. I'd be curious to read some specifics of what's going on here, because I really haven't played it enough in recent months to have come across it myself.
Just get the MC Command Center and disable the culling effect.
I still cant download content in my mods folder or My Sims wont move a round. Wow that has never happened to me..I have 2 ghost living in my town now..
Lazy Game Reviews
Oh, yea. That was a HUGE issue way before Dine Out was released. Imagine owning a restaurant where you hired employees and spent countless days and hours getting their skills up for your restaurant. Then the next shift, your employee doesn't show up for work bcus they were erased from the game. It has to do with the 180 sim limit that is allowed before the game starts removing sims. Every patch removes ghosts which means any dead sim in your game and in your family tree are now too de"ceased to exist haha. I find myself having to reintroduce my sim to their family members/friends bcus of relationship culling.
2024: a decade of meh.
so, can we expect a "three years of meh" video these days? :P
I wish :(
Now 4 years of meh
atur chomicz it's not September so still 3 years of meh.
its been 4 years and they still havent released seasons
iare eeeh it'll probably be the last one they release
Sims 2 was my favorite for gameplay, I used to play that game for almost whole days. Sims 3 was great too but I seriously cannot play Sims 4 for more than 30 minutes without finding myself super bored
waiting for the sims 5 and hoping EA gets their crap together
that sucks, it's their fault it isn't doing as well
+DjGodaryD86 they funded Titanfall with Sims 3 revenue -_-
We've been hoping they get their crap together since mass effect 3s release, or at least I have lol. Still to be determined if they have tbh.
EA is just a dumb, they have soo much money but looks like they don't know how to spend it or even more how to do a fucking game cof cof Sims 4.
+ONDA VITAL EN UNA JUNGLA DE CRISTAL A TODO GAS POR LAS SUPERNENAS CAZADAS POR LOBEZNO ft. SONGOHANDA I don't think they care. they KNOW what people want, but they don't work towards it and don't talk about it. That's why so many have left the game or feel extremely dissatisfied with the series now
For me, what the Sims 4 really lacks is the quirks that made the other games. It's like the Stepford Wives of the Sims world, everything is too perfect, nothing goes wrong. It was so hard to keep your Sims alive in the other series, or to keep relationships up etc. In Sims 4 promotions are too easy, every character seems like the same character despite having different traits, skills are too easy to gain, and there's no character and no challenge. Your house feels so isolated in the Sims 4, there's no random events good or bad. The game is just bland. Thank god for the Seasons and Dine Out packs otherwise this game would be unplayable for me.
Also, Thank you for keeping your integrity and posting honest Sims reviews.
I agree. Little things like being a technophobe or never nude goes a long way on making Sims more unique. Bring back Hydrophobia. Bring back Absent-mindedness. Or clumsiness. Or cowardness. Or basically the whole Trait system of Sims 3. Because most of Sims 4 "traits" are just emotion-changers and moodlet poppers 🙄.
@@kiillabytez It also feels less like a life simulation because it's easy as balls and it feels like nothing has consequences.
The most scathing indictment of Sims 4 is how my friends' daughter went back to playing Sims 3 on LAUNCH day of the Sims 4. I walked in the room to ask her how the game was and my jaw dropped. "You're playing Sims 3!?"
She said, "M'eh. This is more fun."
comparing apples (S3 with many expansion packs) to oranges (S4 base game)
+xfusee 1.) both are fruits and fruits are inherently comparable 2.) the sims are both apples as they are trying to achieve the same gameplay, so you very much can compare and contrast.
+TheHolyFox123 No, the correct way back then would be comparing the sims 3 base game (No expansions) with the sims 4 base game.
if she was playing base game that wouldn't give others the excuse of saying expansions so let me say I reinstalled my copy of base sims 3 after trying sims 4 (2 generations of two different families) and I felt like I got more out of 3 with exploring, parties, making friends, stealing stuff, creating and playing the sims. Really all that sims 4 has to offer is a better house building.
Basic Sims 3 with no expansions was still more fun than Sims 4. I know. I played it with no expansions for years, and to this day I still only use Late Night and Ambitions.
I don’t like the sims 4 too bland boring :( I rather play 2/3
@Evelyn does stufff It has less content than the other games and it's already 4 years after it's release. And just look at the stuff packs. Hamsters, movies, ice-cream, laundry...
@@radwooah I mean, who the hell wants to PAY for a sim to do laundry? LAUNDRY??
I have a question where do you get Sims 2 for a computer?
Sims 4 is very boring! i prefer sims 1,2 and 3
Id rather play 1 and 2 personally
sims 4 is the most stale and forgettable sim game. Im seriously just waiting for sims 5, this is just pointless
God i wanna see your face when they announce that theyll discontinue the sims series 🤗 im enjoying and supporting ts4 (not in everything) but i like every sims game .
God am i a good person?
Sims 5 might not actually exist because of how sucky Sims 4 is
@@rosie6716 they actually work on sims 5
Abusus75 no i read in an interview that they aren’t even thinking of moving towards sims 5, they’re trying to milk the sims 4 as much as possible