Back Leg Disc Golf Explained - Part 1
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- slingshotdiscg...
The Slingshot Training program is now available on my website!
80 drills/exercises
2hr 30 min of take home content (everything I know)
Learn to sling it like me!
contact@slingshotdiscgolf.com
Coach T - Instagram
www.instagram....
OT Drew Footage
• Drew Gibson | Slow Mot...
Paul Slow Mo
• Paul McBeth Slow Motio...
Paul Slow Mo
• Paul McBeth - European...
Paige Pierce Slow Mo
• Paige Pierce advice on...
Simon Lizotte Slow mo
• Simon Lizotte - slow m...
Part 2 will cover weight transfer. How much weight should be on the back leg? How much weight should be on the front leg? how the weight shift works throughout the movement. Stay tuned. I can't fit everything into one video.
Best disc golf learning channel, excellent work!
Thx for what you do. I am 11 months into DG, 5'3" and two weeks from 50yrs old. My max field RHBH is 330'(ripping my arm out and getting all the turn and fade), golf line of 285-295' at 90-95% effort.
A month ago I tried backleg slinging and something felt different. Disc felt like it shot out of my hand. Horrible line and nose angle, but seed was planted. Did some field work this week. Struggled with 18-20mph winds. Slowed things down in x-step and load. Was reaching 295-300' into a 20mph headwind with not much effort and the wind holding the glide up on 9spds. Loosened up my body more and hit 350' with tailwind knocking my disc down. Disc was on a rope and low with virtually no turn. It was relatively effortless and my mind was blown. Most field work with a tail wind, same 9spd disc maxes me out at 280' because the disc gets knocked down. What intrigues me is getting relatively improved distance and none of the arm fatigue or next day arm soreness. My lines aren't horrible either. Will keep working the backleg sling form and having fun. Thx again for alp the info. If I decide to push for +400', I'll sign up this Winter. Cheers. 🍻
You are the first person on youtube to explain how to throw correctly. Everyone is saying this and that but you really make a lot of sense!
The back leg thing is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Not one pro does this. I fact MOST pros are throwing only from their front leg!
He explained all of that. Watch the entire video and stop being a hater@@theOcean41
Omg. Baseball player Right hand throw and hit as a youth that throws disc lefty. This makes so much sense.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I have been playing disc golf for 16 years and have been obsessed with trying to figure out how the pros create so much coil, power and arm speed. I have watched every video I could find, but not a single video ever led to drastic distance increases or revelations, UNTIL NOW.
Your video was the first one that actually explained a technique to me in a way that finally led to a breakthrough and gave me the answers to distance and consistency that I have been searching over a decade. At my older age, I had given up hope of passing the 400 ft. mark.
The first day on the practice field after watching your video, I experienced huge leaps in distance, smoothness, and accuracy with no rounding. Though my max distance had being stuck at 350 ft. for the last 12 years, several of my throws today went over 400 ft. for the first time ever.
The part that really led me to the big leap was where you explain the hip coil while standing on the back leg, like Paul McBeth. And thinking of it like a baseball swing, really made it all click.
Thank you Mike. I appreciate you!
I am a baseball player and this comes just like the outfield throw off the back leg balance. Great coaches stress this balance and I appreciate you pointing it out. I was a pitcher and we would warm up with balance drills and just wrist drills. I will say after watching your videos and practicing the back shoulder coil I gained immediate distance and confidence off the tee. I started controlling the box in tournaments and in only 1 month I’m already playing mpo. The practice net and 100 putts a day have helped. I just got a camera set up last week and will start fixing form in the coming weeks to get to a better position at point of release. Thanks dude. -signed slingshot fanboi
I have been a baseball player my whole life and a rt handed batter. I originally would throw Frisbee in younger days left handed but when I started playing disc golf I started throwing the disc right handed and have been playing for 5 years and I don't throw very far because I throw off front leg. This is interesting and I wish I would have found your teaching when I 1st started. Now I got to start over to achieve the distance I want to achieve. Thank you
What you're actually coiling against cruciate ligaments in the knee. It's not entirely healthy for the knee to do that and it won't add a whole lot of power either way, because it doesn't assist in transferring any of that power to the disc. A 90kg person moving at 10mph transferring 100% of their momentum into a 180g disc would launch that sucker at 5000 mph. Clearly that doesn't happen, so producing MORE power isn't the answer to throwing further. Instead, increasing the percentage of power transferred is the way to go. World record launch speed is currently held by Kristian Kuoksa at 90.73mph. He weighs about 90kg and was throwing a normal disc. Assuming I guessed his weight correct, he transferred less than 2% of his momentum.
To transfer more power, you need to brace better, not try to throw from your back leg. Bracing is why people look like a big old A when they're mid-throw.
This comment deserves more attention
I have watched the part from 5:20 to 5:25 at least 20 times now. Its just absolutely beautiful.
This. I needed this. As a big guy I've been trying to figure out how to use my weight to my advantage. This allows me to use that weight in the power pocket.
Watched the other videos on the back leg but i didn't comprehend completely until I watch this video. Can't wait to try this out in the field. Waiting to see part 2!
I agree with DG Spin Doctor on this one. Throwing from the front leg (the way he teaches) seems to make much more sense and be more consistent to pro form vids.
More on front leg vs back leg, I think front leg/brace is clearly more important. If you are perfectly bracing all of the speed from the run up, any extra force from the back leg would seem to be negligible, especially if you have a faster run up like James or sometimes Simon for example.
For back leg, you can be pushing off the back leg with tons of force, yet with a bad brace, that force and the run up will blow throw the front leg without converting it into power.
Even if you both are talking about the same concept, just using different words, I think DG Doctor's way is much clearer to understand without needed a 20 minute video of explanation.
I'm curious, how far can you throw accurately?
I do agree, be careful when you go out and try new movements and form adjustments. Build up to full speed vs just going out there and see “does this movement add more distance” at full speed. Best case scenario it does and the stress on your joints and ligaments is going to multiply when they may not be ready for it and you hurt yourself. Worst case you do something weird and have a higher chance of hurting yourself. I have strained my shoulder and elbow in the same year trying to improve my whip and lag and can only say if you’re lifting as well, slowly build up to full speed, do a good warm up and make sure your rest days are real rest days.
Man can we get someone to do an actual experiment of form. I'm talking pressure sensors in the feet, barometers in all the joints. I'm not at all convinced about the back leg push.The thing none can dispute is that the hip rotating is non negotiable. The hip can only rotate if the front hip moves clockwise (RHBH) and the left hip moves clockwise aswell, leading to clockwise rotation.
Theoretically then you can drive the hip into rotation in 2 ways. 1. you can "drive" the back leg leading to the back hip shooting out in front of your body, turning it clockwise or 2. have the front leg STOP and brace forcing the momentum up into your front hip, pushing it back behind you into clockwise rotation (because the front foot is staggered the direction will be clockwise).
Now consider that the mere existence of the front leg brace proves the validity of option nr 2. The same can not be said for nr 1. The back leg being bent in, or Pauls shoe being crunched up, does in fact NOT constitute a "powerful exertion" from the back leg.
What I agree with is that balancing on the back leg until the last moment is ABSOLUTELY essential. The weight shifting from back to front is the power of the movement and if that is early, it's wasted. This is the true essence of "front leg discgolf". Planting flatfooted and wasting all the power from the lower body.
I also see where you come from. Assuming a large portion of power comes from the hip rotating, cuing the back leg IN like you show is a good method. If the knee does not collapse like you show, the left hip will remain back and act as an anchor to the front hip. Cuing it in will allow it to follow the front hip in rotation.
However a powerful "drive" of the back leg is not necessary. You compare it to baseball and golf, where you are correct in that driving off the back leg is fundamental. But discgolf is different like you said. We can use momentum. The function of driving the back leg is to shift the weight with sufficient power in time for the chain of events that lead to the power position.
That means because those sports play from a standstill they have to produce a LOT of power in a SMALL timeframe. (MUCH power * LITTLE time) On the other hand in discgolf when a runup is possible we have a LOT of time to produce that power. ( MUCH POWER * LOT OF TIME) Realistically, how much actual inertia can you produce from a standstill compared to running? That inertia is what the brace collects and shoots up into the hip pushing it backwards into rotation.
I think the most valuable thing you talk about is the coil and the core and agree with it. Calling it backleg discgolf however can be counterproductive in that it encourages a narrow mindset on form.
While I don't particularly wan't to copy his form, James Conrad is an example that comes to mind. With that insande runup, does he have time to push with the back leg, or does he simply briefly balance on it before braking the momentum with his front leg, with his hip in a position to recieve the impact and convert it into rotation?
I think their is an overhaul of new people in the disc golf setting that are trying to explain the form rather then just feel out the game. It makes content for them as well so I don't blame them. I am 18 months in and tried the back leg approach for a year. It wasn't until a guy in league told me to focus on staying on my toes until the plant step and let the heel land pull my weight into the throw I saw the really slingshot.
@@jakemiller270 That's right there are a lot of ways that work. But if we're trying to get the actual biomechanics explained we should remain critical. A full understanding of the movement won't net you results. Trying different cues at random might. But understanding what part of your form is lacking and applying a relevant cue, will speed the process up.
@@luuhax agree and I went through many cues until staying on my tip toes was the timer I needed. I don't think their will ever be a one cue fix all that works for all golfers which is why even pros talk about cue changes.
I'm not sure james Conrad is the best example for form. For how tall he is and how much of a run up he gets one would expect his drives to go much further than they do. I think he is the definition of muscling distance.
@@thomassparks1293 Yeah I don't think he is known as a guy who throws far, mostly just a great woods guy and putter. He is more a guy that does well despite his form. (Being a great putter helps too)
I don't think you quite understand the difference between front leg and back leg.
All coaches teach driving off the rear leg into the brace.
What you're referring to as "front leg disc golf" is bad form. Players spinning out and not bracing properly. It's not "front leg disc golf" its just bad bracing and poor form.
But throwing your hips and squishing the bug are not the way to drive the swing, you drive the swing with the brace and the weight shift.
He’s admitted that it’s not a squish of the bug, it’s driving weight into the brace. He’s teaching a baseball bat swing which Macbeth has said that’s what he does in his backhand
Both legs are extremely important, you definitely need to master the back leg to achieve real distance, the combination of pushing and rotating isn’t easy to do. Neither is balancing and bracing against your torso coil. However landing a closed plant, brace, and hip explosion of the front leg can’t be overlooked either. Disc golf takes two legs, all the great players use them both.
Aaron Gossage in discrafts distance tips claimed that if you track his front plant leg knee moving from closed and internally rotated to open and externally rotated as he fires his backhand that that is largely what dictates his power. Look at the plant knee of all of the best players. Landing with that plant closed and low and internally rotated is not easy to do, especially if you fall too far down the “back leg disc golf” rabbit hole.
Im going to say it again. Disc golf is a both legs sport.
Yeah well said, I think it's silly trying to brand things as completely front leg disc golf vs back leg disc golf. Maybe saying full drive, vs approach shots ? That's when I see the difference in style
Best disc golf channel out there. Hands down. #seekrapproved.
I appreciate it!
Agree, really stellar coaching
I liked the explanation of the off arm. Haven't noticed some of those things before. pretty cool
Glad it helped!
I've been frolfing for about a year and a half in total, I watch every form video I can find and this is the best one. I typically throw between 360-380ft, with no wind or a slight headwind I can hit 420-430ish. Two months ago I watched a few power pocket/whip/distance videos, went out to the course the next day and blew my right hip out. Almost didn't finish the round, 7 holes in I new I was in trouble. I was under the impression that to get to the distance the pros are throwing I needed to have a front leg explosive throw. Thank you for explaining the feelings of strain and pull through that left hip up the back to the right shoulder, and clearly defining what mechanics and muscle strengthening you really need to blister a rip and how to simply slowly integrate these steps.
never say "Frolfing", its like Voldemort of Disc Golf
This is one of the best teaching videos I’ve ever seen on disc golf. I hopped up in my bedroom and followed along and finally felt that stretch reflex. I’ve been a front-leg disc golfer for 10 years and didn’t know how to get that back leg engaged. This video got me feeling it. Can’t wait to hit the course and start re-learning how to throw.
Congratulations on your health journey and using sports as a catalyst. I know it isn’t about aesthetics, but it is a benefit of exercise and you’re looking more fit. So huge shout out for that. Also thank you for the continued disc golf instruction.
I was a baseball pitcher all the way through college and when pitching my legs and hips were opposite of a backhand disc golf throw and it is definitely difficult to switch it up after soooo long of the pitching way.
@@BrAndOn_CaLLawAy really good idea. Thank you I’ll have to try that out
@@BrAndOn_CaLLawAy Check out Teacherman hitting if you haven't already. He is Aaron Judge's coach and teaches the exact same thing as Slingshot just for the baseball swing instead
@@BrAndOn_CaLLawAyThat is interesting for forehand, I'll have to experiment.
Pulling the disc straight never felt right to me because of how dissimilar it was from swinging or punching, and you end up unbalanced with so much weight forward.
I think coiling with your torso vs just turning your shoulder back isn’t a one or another concept. I think Eagle clearly turns his shoulder and it isn’t just his core. I think it’s a mix.
Hands down the best explanation of all of your content put together. Can't wait for the website to be ready. By the way, that studio looks amazing!
What you describe as front leg disc golf is what almost every pro does. Are you saying you know disc golf form better than all the pros?
I don’t necessarily think there is a front leg or back leg disc-golf, just different perspectives from each persons own mind. I think we all agree that keeping weight on the back and loading your hips is how you generate the power. Using your left hand to break the rights elbow along with core rotation and a front brace is how to release that power…wts…
Your hips will only rotate so much, doesn’t matter where your brain is taking cues from(shoulders or stomach) if your weight is on your back leg and your hips are rotated, you will feel the load up. The angle of your back toe dictates where your hips can rotate, toes pointed back(horsefooting the rear toe)will slow down hip rotation relative to the hit, sucking power away. Further stretching from the shoulder can put the disc behind the body creating rounding, regardless if your loaded up on the back and on the hip.
The snap back of the arm is simply a timing mechanism of your arm going to full extension and your elbow being forced to break at the same moment in the rotation.
I see this as simply a teaching method that people can comprehend a certain way. No wrong in teaching it and no reason to disregard other comprehensions of the same basic throw. Maybe I’m just not getting it, maybe I’m just a natural back footed player and don’t understand what front leg disc golf is… but to me they seem like the same things. To me, it seems like the problems you pointed out are just basic issues people have with their forms in general.
This ^ starting to feel like the old days of baseball teaching when they used to tell hitters to be either linear or rotational. It’s usually always elements both.
Yeah playing baseball/golf left handed is hard because my left side was so used to pulling/ right side pushing and now it's flipped; I did throw 478 last week and my last previous was 442 but it's been months since that 442
Internet distance rules apply, congrats on hitting 378
@@Justnothankyou132 udisc +-15 actually :)
I have always been a leff handed baseball player...
In disc golf the left hand throw felt alien in the lower body, so i switched to the right hand.
Once i could visialize a good xstep and has learned how to move the right upper bodyi tried to mirror and copy and paste to the left side.
Now i have all types of throws in my bag.
My shoulder always hurts now from throwing with force. When I switched to loose and sling shot it’s painless but I can’t get it down fully yet.
My testimony here is. As I attempt to learn the slingshot method, i've discovered everything being said here is totally true. It's more difficult to learn but the injury prevention is worth it. Pull the lawnmower destroyed my arm in just a few weeks, but using this method I was able to keep playing, let my arm heal, AND throw farther. Still Injury can come from any were even with proper form. For me it's all been worth it even though I just play as a recreation.
Coach T !
Missed you dawg.
WOOOF WOOF UNG !!!
YESSSSSS I'VE BEEN WAITING WHAT FEELS LIKE FOREVER FOR THIS 🤣
appreciate this man, beautiful content
You’ve helped me so much and I thank you. Would love to get a form assessment one day.
Loved the vid, Coach T! Great stuff.
Can't wait to continue to learn from your videos and ideas. I am already working this in off season, and Yes- it is different but effective! Thanks so much!
I also think there is something to be said about staying closed (hips-shoulders) as long as possible to get more snap, watch Adam HAMMES he is a good example of staying closed, or when in baseball they say to stay behind the ball meaning you let the ball get as deep in the zone as possible and the hitters hands stay back- same fo throwing the disc and i believe it even creates more spin! just my observation.
Incredible content
I have been solid 330 feet thrower for like 15 years. What do you think is reasonable max distance for front leg thrower? Maybe could go 400 feet or so which is enough in most tracks. It seems my release speed is decent 110-115km/h whereas pros will throw 140km/h mostly. I wish I'd break 120km/h constantly with practise.
This is an awesome video. I'm new to this sport bought my first discs 11 months ago. The x step back hand throw has been the hardest for me to learn and do. Recently I bought a net and have been trying to dial in this madness. While i have accomplished some distance it's not very accurate and feels clumsy. Now I see why, I've been trying to pull everything from front instead of pushing from the back. This is just the video I've been searching for. Thank you
Why are you wearing an elbow sleeve? Did you injure your elbow from doing the hyper extension “slingshot” thing?
Once again absolute fire video. I've never felt that tension anywhere when throwing and it all makes so much sense now. Ofc you will get faster movement and more explosiveness when you also use that tension to your advantage. Thank you coach T once again, cant wait for the next one!
Where can I buy a Wilson's Market T-shirt?
Team Wilson's Market 100%
LFG!
This is a game changer that everyone can see in watching the pros throw. When Iwas doing this 2 months ago I was close to 400 feet with easy 350 and thought all I needed to add was more shoulder Good morning. Sure do you need to turn and I lost 70 feet I couldn't crack what was wrong and the coil was gone. Now it has come back! He has identified 2 ways of distance but this way is easier and stronger.!
What is coach T’s player rating?
Love it Coach T! Also just want to say the plant positioned behind the yellow net just above the pocket makes it look like a pineapple :)
Wow been trying this back foot tech outside. Amazing 👏. Do you focus on a lot of core and leg training plus stretching to increase distance? Amazing videos thank you so much!
Come back and comment how many of you have sciatic problems after this 🤣 just make sure yall stretch you should be okay. I can just see a late 30s cat having his back seize up on him trying to slingshot Wearing large Oakley shades. Anyone else feel like this dude reminds you of the karate teacher from napoleon dynamite? Laugh thinking about him giving a lesson at a DG course yelling bow to your sensei! bow to sensei! haha
Love this lol
Were you buy the slingshot stick? it's home made?
Great as always Coach T! Drive to Chicago and put on a clinic! I'll be there.
I have been viewing all your videos over the past few months, I love the approach and as a former baseball player I totally get it. But, I wanted to complete the growth in your teaching and ability to dispense your content. Great stuff and keep up the awesome videos, you are creating something really special here.
Ah-ha moment! So our left hands hold the handle to the whip, this punch forward starts the rotation power/action of transferring power from rear leg to front!!!
Great coaching!
Please teach explosive speed training and injury prevention
What about grip? Should wrist be loose or really tight
Great video Coach! The idea of back leg disc golf has helped my game a ton!
Can anyone point to drills that help reinforce this type of coiling? I most often just rotate with my shoulders and know I'm missing out on some power.
Great job with this! Can you do a video showing some of the best front legged pro disc golfers?
My drives have been consistently explosive with a good whip for a couple of months now, but my left knee has been "put more ice on that" sore during that time, too. I couldn't figure out why and have been trying all sorts of stuff to fix it, like never carrying my bag on one (always my left) shoulder and reminding myself whenever I stand still I always seem to use my left leg for it.
Maybe I'm a back leg disc golfer and don't know it. My game got better when I began hovering my right foot toward its plant point, delaying its sideways touch until the last gentle and perfect moment, which forces a "both knees inward" brace and the inherent explosive directional change capacity that stance affords.
In the buildup, I can feel a masterful "I'm in charge here" quality to the totality of what my left leg is doing throughout. I'm standing dynamically balanced only on that leg for a strangely long part of the drive while a hell of a lot of tricky stuff is happening at the same time. I'm bent over at the waist which means my knee is bent and I'm up on the balls that left foot yet keeping my central axis vertical while my right leg cuts across the balance axis, messing everything up.
Except in practice, it doesn't mess everything up; the right leg movement parallels the horizontal, whole-of-body momentum toward the target, so smoothly it acts like a horizontal stabilizer helping me stay on a rail-like path with no up and down movement. The right foot "seeking and hovering" slows down the whole frame mentally so now that right foot and the disc both have a common theme: fixed stillness in space and time as bookends to a coil of intense power they cannot possibly contain for even a moment.
For me, the trigger sensation is my right shoulder finally joining the coiling party. Just after that my left arm and leg are plunging and pushing, respectively, yanking my right shoulder, and the arm attached to it, back to normal faster than nature intended.
But what do I know? Coach: your system of slingshot and back leg are original and wonderful. Takes courage to buck everyone and determination to prove you are right. Keep going and going, brother. You're so onto something good.
Great visuals coach T! Love the new studio as well! 💯
Man, I need this snow to go away so I can go play!!
Which moves forward first: the back leg or the off arm?
6:54 you will see Paul do it at the same time.
Great explanation, now I’m starting to understand. Looking forward to the next video(s)!
I don’t like this front leg vs. back leg thing. The correct swing uses both legs.
Yes, but the back leg has only supportive role.
On point!!!!
DG spin doctor is teaching the exact opposite
Yea, he's teaching to pull the disc straight.
Do whatever feels more comfortable I guess.
The issue is timing. The bad examples you show are bad timing, not mistakes in how to use the legs or not pushing off the back leg enough. This is all confusing and in my mind bad info that is being provided to people
Thanks for another awesome tutorial. I always recommend my friends to see your youtube.
They have difficulties understanding what you are explaining since they are all Koreans. Is there any way to add korean language captions into your tutorials? thanks in advance.
I’ll look into it
🥳🥳🥳
12:05 for me
So having slight soreness in the back leg knee (back outer side of the knee) can be expected after 4-5 shots per hole for 18 holes? Just wanna make sure I’m headed in the right direction with back leg
If it hurts stop and try a different method.
I had soreness there when I started doing this as well. I just had to take it slower to begin with and build up the strength, eventually the soreness went away.
@@tonyriedel4421 That was my first reaction to it. Just wanted to make sure I’m getting the results others experienced. Thanks man!
Its the result when you do exactly what this guy teach. Check out the video on DG Spin Doctor's channel called "Planting like Paul Mcbeth".
How can I lessons from you?
@10:30 "it is not a twist, it is not a push..." but it's both. Now I'm confused, anyone else?
It is a combination. Really it is a push twist in. Been doing coaches training program and he has a video where he goes into this in more detail with a drill to help you feel the movement. I know he is releasing a more comprehensive program in about a month which he teased at the start of the video.
@@MichaelFloyd12 Are you able to share the drill? Just trying to get a feel for it. If you can't share I understand.
@@douglaspark5890 Don't think I can share because it is in his program. It is called the baseball drill. Two styles of the drill where you exaggerate a tilt and the other where you flatten it out. Hard to explain over text but I know it will be in his program.
@@MichaelFloyd12 Thanks for responding. Looking forward to the program.
“I had to become an athlete to hit those distances” - this right here is what a lot of people don’t understand. The physical barrier to entry of disc golf is low, but to excel at the sport you have to train like an athlete. Especially if you are out of your prime years and don’t have a background in sports. Baseball is a great parallel because it is all about converting power to hand speed
"Promosm" 💐
You are back leg loaded and brace on your front leg. That is the right way to throw. I think what you are calling front leg disc golf is just a bad form. The coiling just happens when you are back leg loaded. The key is the weight shift and timing. ...but if there is something I'm missing, please let me know. I just started playing four months ago and have gone from 200ft to 300ft to 380ft. If there is a faster way to get to 500ft I'd like to know, but I can't tell the difference from what others are teaching.
You must have been working hard for the last month. You look a little thinner. Maybe it is the new studio. 😀😀I posted this before you said how much weight you lost :)
7:20 What in the world are you seeing??? Paul has ZERO pressure on his back foot, it literally flips over in the next frames lol.
So blindly delusional it's astounding! 🤯
You need to see a coach Coach.
In that exact frame he has already pushed off that foot and is uncoiling already. Paul pushes off his back leg so hard he strained his left calf right before Worlds last year. For him to have ZERO pressure, how is it possible his calf was hurting so bad I may ask. To say that he doesn't put pressure on his back leg/foot is BLINDLY DELUSIONAL. Go see a coach, internet warrior.
@@mrlandino1 There is no pushing. After the front foot makes contact with the ground the hips start to engage and your knee drops naturally.
If you insist on talking about pushing it's the generated momentum you "push" against, we call that bracing... against the front foot.
Paul having cramping is not from him pushing so hard against the ground lol.
@@FormerAmericanIdol for you to brace against something you have to have equal and opposite pressure to brace. . . . . physics. where you think the pressure on the front foot comes from when the transfer of energy happens? Your front foot can only brace and create pressure by how much the back foot gives.
@@mrlandino1 In a standstill shot yes. Like in golf and baseball like he says, it's true. But with a runup you gather that energy much easier. The amount the backleg alone can produce is nothing compared to a three step runup. After gathering all the energy all you have to do is transfer it correctly to the hip, by putting the hip in a favorable position at the moment the weight transfers.
@@mrlandino1 How fast do you think they are moving down the teepad? The speed generated comes from the first step they take, there is no pushing!
Back leg disc golf 🤦♂️
People watching this, be aware this is NOT what basically anyone else teaches or explains about the throw. If you choose to listen, fine, but be aware this is basically contrary to what EVERYONE else says and maybe there’s a reason for that…
What specifically do you think is contrary to what everyone else teaches? Just curious.
He refers to "front leg" disc golf, as people not bracing properly. That's not how it works really. A fully braced front leg where 90-100% of the body weight is braced against it, is what you want (not 70% on the back leg, that's just asking for injuries). If you look at the tests where pro batters and golfers get their weight measured on some sort of pads (English isn't my first language) - golfers and batter have next to NO weight on their back leg during the (forward) swing. And yet people treat this guy as a "god" in DG techniques.
When the studies come back from the newly experiment they did with pro's in discgolf (weight distribution pads too), things will get hard for coach T (or I'm gonna eat my words)
Oh and by the way, regarding "pushing and turning in" with the rear leg. Look up DG spin doctor (jaani) or have a look a dgcoursereviews forum. Keyword "weight shift from behind". Both in baseball and DG the knee drops "in" because of a lateral downward drop into the front leg brace, at least from my understanding.
"Can't coil without turning the leg in".. get in an athletic stance, coil as much as you can, bend your front leg a little, feel how you can coil even more. Straighten the front leg and feel how the body wants to uncoil by itself.
Or you guys could just look up slowmos from this year distance competition and looks what happens the second they brace up against the front leg.. or they "drop" into the plant..
That's funny, because this took me from 400 to almost 500 feet with less upper body effort. I would suggest that you might not understand the material being presented.
The thing is, "front leg disc golf" the way he describes it doesn't exist. It uses the rear leg and everything just the way he describes it. He just fails to mention how important the brace on the front is.
before you begin working on the back leg, you need to have front leg 'feeling' down. These are some very subtle things you are talkign about, its more important to develop the front leg feel to get your throw
Bro, bro, bro, what are u doing. First, you remind me of Bradley walker, he always said" I call it" too. The way you describe front leg is all wrong. You describe it ad something a beginner would do. There is no BACK LEG DISCGOLF, bro. First, you can't throw from back leg. It's impossible, that's all u really need to know.
This is so wrong and stupid. Not one pro does this. Most pros on mac distance shots are throwing strictly from their front leg while the back leg is off the ground.
Guys, please dont listen to this guy. You will get injured. He has no idea what hes talking about. What is front/back leg discgolf. Both legs are used and uou need to brace and post ip on front leg.
I’ve literally never heard a professional describe the fundamentals of their form as something that can’t be mastered by an average Joe, or a kid. They just acknowledge that their athleticism pushes them to the next level.
Damn im hella lucky i throw lefty and bat righty