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Those are some great miniatures! Very reminiscent of the discontinued RuneWars in style. I'd gladly buy some of those orcs and undead, in particular. :)
I'm a licensed and practicing therapist who also loves painting minis. This was a great video and not something that gets talked about in this level of detail enough in any hobby! Great job and I love your channel, been watching it for a while now 😀
lol, yea I never expected my psych degree applying to war gaming but yea. It's the same types of cognitive distortions we're always subject to. I mean we use DBT for everything else, should we start doing DBT classes for mini painting? Classes in non-metallic metal and distress tolerance skills?
@@aggonzalezdc That would be a DBT skills group I would be totally down for! One of the art therapists that I work with will sculpt orks and such during his groups and will have me paint them. Painting is also a great form of mindfulness for me at least.
I will say this. When I started Kragnos I felt the same. Then I started painting it and one thing that most people don’t think about is because it’s so big, techniques are much easier. Glazing, feathering, stippling all are so much better with the larger model. I found that it’s not the techniques I was having issues with, it was doing techniques on a small scale. So i will say, my Kragnos is my best work to date because of its size helping me work on my techniques.
Yeah, exact same thing happened when I was painting up an Ironclad - rust and grime applying and other such techniques was so much easier on a bigger model for me
I have a similar issue when it comes to both building and painting...but it's with nearly irreplaceable vintage 80's era Japanese model kits, especially the really obscure ones you need to actively hunt for. This problem gets worse because, to get the best out of them, you need to remove seam lines, fix gaps and fitting issues and (in my case) mod work to slightly improve the kit to my standards.
I don't even paint minis yet alone own any, but subbing because this guy knows how to youtube. Writing, editing, delivery - all great. You can apply the lessons in this video to many things in life. Welp, looks like I am going to learn about mini's.
Casey, this is good stuff. There's such a mental hurdle to clear when painting ANYTHING for a lot of folks (including myself). My motto that I always try to tell everyone is "it's just paint". You can paint over it. You can strip the model. You can add more and make it beautiful! It's just paint. It's so important to talk about the mental game of painting and hobbying. There's a knee-jerk reaction to compare yourself to other painters that drives those thought distortions. Identifying and giving it a name helps us defeat it! I'm adding this video to my "Required Viewing" playlist to revisit in the future when I'm feeling defeated by my work.
Ohohoho!! This video caught my attention a lot! Your words resonate a lot with what my therapist told me too about my own problems (anxiety and cognitive disorders) and I’m glad looking at it reflected here to bravely paint forward! Thanks for the words and I think I’ll finally work on my Greebo Chaos Dwarves…
Really great video Casey. As someone who has come back to the hobby after 15+ years I could totally relate to these feelings when actually coming to put paint onto a mini and wanting to do it "well". I've learnt more by making decisions that haven't worked than those that have. Don't overthink and just enjoy the process.
My problem isnt the fear of ruining anything, but the space I need to work. I have a very small apartment (literally a one room studio with barely enough room for my computer desk and bed) and to paint I need to unpack the huge supply chest I have amassed and clear off the entire desk (as to not get paint on my super expensive PC system and monitor) and this alone holds me back as I cant just squeek out a few models or chip away at the larger ones littl by little. Its hard to get myself to clear off all that space for an hour long painting session so it becomes this thing where do I have the entire day to paint and if not, it will have to wait~
Great video! My husband sent this to me, knowing I get nervous about even assembling minis. You made some really good points. I think I'll have to come back to this when I go to tackle my treelord for AoS.
To be honest, I have way more hesitation when it comes to foot soldiers. Big models are more often easier to paint and way more forgiving. Compare an imperial knight to a space marine captain. Both are centerpiece models although to a different scale. A captain has tiny, finicky details, that you want to paint to the best of your abilities. If you post it online, everyone sees every tiny little mistake you make. Compare that to a knight, where it is way harder to completely mess up. A small mistake isn't as noticable and since I tend to weather my models very much, these little mistakes are easy to cover up (painted over the edge while doing the trim? Eh, can be chipped armour later). Although I have to say, I like the more subtle models and not the extremely busy ones. The Void Dragon for example looks cool, but the amount of detail would be too much for my liking.
I feel that for sure. I would rather paint a knight than a smaller space marine character all day. I think it comes down to your own feelings though, like what intimidates you more as a painter. Cost, size, whatever it is, it can be tough to just get going sometimes.
While a high rez picture posted online will let people see the tiny details, on the tabletop no one is going to see them. Not from multiple feet away and probably in poor lighting.
@@Bluecho4 while you are definitely right, it maybe is also a me-problem. I tend to keep my face really close to a small scale character when I paint one. You usually don't do that with larger models, so you won't notice mistakes right away.
Really inspiring video Casey. I have been putting off painting my Bela'kor for over a year now due to anxiety and i feel as if you've given me the drive or motivation to start adding paint to model this evening. Instilling confidence in your community is really setting you above the rest. Excellent work sir
I've been staring at my primed Nagash sitting on the shelf for over half a year now, no idea how to paint him and afraid i'll screw it up. I'm a half decent painter but i've always been worried i'll mess something up big time. Your video has helped me to regain my composure and start bunkering down in order to prepare to paint him. Thank you for you insightful words mate, great video!
Hey Casey, always like that you share your thought process on the desicions you make along the way and that is very interesting. I was surprised that leaving a WIP model on your desk works for you. I find is the opposite for me, the more I see it unfinished the more I get used to it being unfinish. What works great for me is hide it from sight. After a few weeks I will “re-discover it” and say to myself, “man this is almost done” and be motivated to work on it. Thanks for the videos.
A BLOODYWOOD SHIRT! Love those guys, criminally unknown band, real cool to see them here as well as all the great lessons taken right out of my psych degrees Casey!
Your camera and framing are on point Casey, but I think it might be time to upgrade the audio. Not sure if it's the hardware or the mixing, but there's a bit of crunch to it that isn't quite meeting the quality of the rest of your presentation.
I finished a War Dog moirax recently, not a big mini but it’s a forgeworld kit. The airbrushing, weathering, oil washing all went extremely easily but then I started freehanding chaos marks on the lobstered carapace and my heart sank. It really felt like I was ruining an otherwise stellar mini. It also didn’t help that I’d started sponging on battle damage and it wasn’t quite there. All those airbrush blends and subtle shading from the oil wash? Gone, or very difficult to reinstate! What did I do? I regrouped, calmed down and stayed the course. I ended up rectifying the crooked aspects of the chaos mark and fully committing to the battle damage. Finally the mini met the standard I’d hoped. I’m by no means an inexperienced painter but every new step forward can still be met by an element of fear. Best thing to do is believe in yourself and push through.
Casey you just described a significant portion of my model productivity. My 'grey army' or 'pile of shame ' has so much to do with the expense of the figure kit. I do a lot of 54/ 90/100mm Napoleonic and they are prestige figures with a 'prestige' purchase price... so just as you described they sit and are not done. Your pointed description help to 'burst the bubble' Thanks!
Perfect time to find this video, I had a different sort of distortion not with expensive models, but with the amount! Painting paralysis trying to figure out which unit I want to paint next I ended up not doing anything, this video came on and I said F it and just grabbed a unit and started putting paint on. Thanks my dude, sometimes the hardest part is picking the brush up.
Thank you for making this video I'm just starting in the warhammer hobby and I'm procrastinating on my chaos army, but now I feel confident that I can make it look good
as always, top tier content, love to see Your videos, always learning A LOT from You. And now I also see we share a taste for music, Bloodywood rocks :)
The timing of this video’s release is incredibly auspicious. All these thoughts started creeping in last night while working on some Legion models. Paint was getting everywhere it wasn’t supposed to, things were taking longer than I was expecting, my wet palette wouldn’t cooperate, etc, etc. Looking back, I was creating every excuse I could dream up to keep from painting bland, off white armor and lost sight of the final product. This video was a great eye-opener.
I felt this painting my ork truck. NOT very expensive, but it has SO many tiny ramshackle bits. It's SO hard to make a plan and execute it. It's so hard to miss bits, and going back is so frustrating and disheartening
I think the best advice you give in this video is just keep painting. a few months ago i started painting some dominions for my battle sisters army, and about 90% of the way though the basecoats i got overwhelmed by how many mistakes i needed to fix before i could move onto wsshes and highlights. they sat unpainted for about 5 months and that whole time i got almost nothing done. then, last month, i decided to just forget about them and paint a few new charcter models i was really excited to paint, but had been putting off sincei wasnt yet finished with my dominons. i finished them very quickly, and after that i was able to finish up my dominons pretty quickly too.
I really wasn't expecting such solid advice on living with anxiety from a model painting channel. I don't paint models but I find big life decisions and projects agonizing to the point of paralysis because of the distorted thinking patterns you described. The only way to get through insurmountable-feeling tasks is to start with teeny tiny baby steps - picking out colours and putting on the base coat, so to speak. Oh, and talk to a doctor - anxiety is a disease and it can be treated. My only regret is waiting until I was in my 30s to admit I needed help.
Your talk about thought distortion is really good. This talk can also be applied to many other parts of life, and its good that you bring attention to something I think many people deal with on a daily basis (I know I am one of them). Thank you
Maaan....Right now I'm painting Archaon and his mount is a PAIN. First, it took me a month just to choose a painting scheme, then I didn't like it and had to repaint the skin. Now I'm struggling with his wings. From the start nothing goes as I planned with this model (especially the paints don't want to flow smoothly) . But right now things are starting to take shape,so the frustration is slowly fading. Great video and keep up the good work!
Hah, that’s awesome! That’s my main store but I’m kinda in the same boat, about a month in between visits, it’s the closest store to me but it’s still not super close.
yup, i really get overwhelmed when painting a large component to a army. thankfully i solve it by painting it while it's still in parts and focus on those
The tufts are army painter, I can’t remember which type, but I think it’s just the regular grass ones, not like burnt grass or spring whatever, just normal.
Boy, ain't that the truth! I've been through and still experience all the things you mention here, and I find that the best antidote to that is just to plunge in headfirst before I get too paralyzed with fear and just start slinging paint. Works for me, anyway. Oh, and do Bloodywood RAWK or what? I like them a LOT.
Bloodywood is super good! I definitely like the plunge in headfirst approach, that does help me as well, once the paint starts flowing I can’t help myself but keep going :)
This is true, over the winter, I snagged a Verminlord NIB for $35 and I ended up building it and painting it in a three day span and did some basing and TMM that was outside my usual comfort zone and I know its because of the sale price. Had I paid full price, no way would I have experimented around nearly as brazenly. Same with my endless spells. Had I paid full price, no way would I dump and entire jar of texture paint on my Gravetide etc, so there's def a correlation here
Pretty much why I buy off of eBay! It takes the pressure off and you can really get in there and try whatever you want! It’s so weird how just the price can change how you think about it. The more I’ve gone for it the better I’ve felt about brand new models too, so it’s been pretty helpful to source minis second hand for so long :)
For me it is the amount of time I know it will take for me to accept the final product. I don't mind long projects really it just when I have smaller jobs around, I tend to attack those knowing they will be game ready soon. Been working on some knights and have enjoyed the process. I find for me having multiple projects at the same time breaks the monotony. Which allows a break from time to time. Thanks for your content, always appreciated.
I just got a Finecast Thorgrim Grudgebearer model on his throne. I am sweating bullets trying to imagine what it’s going to be like painting 5 dwarves and a big throne. Wish me luck boys
Had this issue with using my new sable brush (they are getting pricey). I was so afraid of ruining a 15$ brush.I kept telling my self I would use it for just the best HQ models and other better models. Finally I just did it and took it down and used it. Such a world of difference compared to cheap brushes. I may have only used it for just the last paint on the model. Your point about just jump in there and do get the paint down, really helps. It just a model get some paint on it.
I tend to work my way up towards bigger centerpiece models with smaller, less important models using the same color scheme to figure out which colors I like and how I want to use them. Before I paint my Great Unclean One, I'll paint a couple Plague Marines and a Myphitic Blight Hauler, for Guilliman it's 10 Heavy Intercessors painted as Ultramarines.
I never had the words to properly describe how I felt, until this video. Cognitive distortion is the biggest reason behind me not actually painting my new Mawloc, or re-atempting my Hive Tyrant. I was so displeased with the finished product, I didn't paint the Mawloc for its own safety, nor try again with the tyrant. But spore mines, termagaunts, hormigaunts, etc, the smaller ones were so easy for me to do because I didn't have those thoughts. Im going to try again, just like you said, "They're just models" Thank you for the awsome video, much enjoyed~
What you are saying in this video also translates to what I’m doing while I’m watching. Sat here at work in Photoshop trying to edit a particularly tricky product image. It’s similar to applying paint to a mini in a way. Where you spend ages looking at the image as it’s progressing and you can see the flaws and hate the image as you are working on it. But I know I can step backwards in the history and re attempt something. Or start again if needs be.
This is definitely a problem I have. I bought Mortarion as a Christmas present to myself, but was so intimidated by it, that I didn't start it until last week. Now it looks great and is a centerpiece in my collection
I've never felt paint anxiety with expensive models (because all models are expensive to me), but it has happened to me with models that I REALLY like. It's the "I'm not good enough" fear.
For sure, the im not good enough voice creeps in a lot for me, for a lot of minis, but once I start putting paint down and working my way through I start to realize that the steps I take to paint any model still apply in the same way with a really cool one. Just gotta keep working through those steps until it’s done. And sure, you will be a better painter later, but you won’t be if you never paint that model, gotta get the practice in on all models in order to know how to paint the next one :)
I have those thoughts about regular models. It's because of a lifetime of always being judged on performance. Where something is only worth doing if you're good at it and can make money from it. That really makes things that I once enjoyed doing feel a lot less desirable. It takes a lot of will power to push through that mental conditioning. Also, peep that @Bloodywood t-shirt
I know exactly how you feel, like, exactly. Granted, I turned this hobby into a type of job for myself, but I paint because I love doing it. If this channel didn’t exist I’d still be doing it. Sometimes it can be tough to push through and do a hobby that is purely for you to enjoy yourself, but you, as a human being, need time to recharge and feel good about you. I feel like if I make a mental note when I sit down to do hobby that this is my time, this doesn’t have to mean anything more than some fun alone time, then I can clear my head and not worry about why I’m hobbying, just have fun painting for the sake of it. Just keep pushing through man, the more you get into the right space when you paint the more enjoyable it becomes :)
My first model that i fully painted was a FW warlord titan, the size of it gives you so much space that it seemed less daunting than a FW primarch. Saying all that, ive been learning how to paint for years now so was able to implement that by memory to the model, it def got my juices flowing for painting the rest of my models.
I find Warhammer miniatures in general take a lot of time to paint because they pack in so much detail. Detail is nice but I have to alternate miniatures I paint because Warhammer burns me out.
I know what you mean. Some of the models they make have so much stuff on them that it’s almost impossible to decide what to do. I tend to stay away from those models unless I feel really motivated to put in the time.
If you get a 3d printer, it's even easier to shake off that reluctance to paint. You might have paid some money for the file, but the print itself was dirt cheap. There's no reason NOT to go all-in.
I’ve been feeling this with my Archaon the Everchosen. Bought him from my FLGS assembled him over the next week then he’s sat on my shelf for almost 5 months because I don’t really have a plan for transporting him or securing him to his base if superglue won’t hold.
Absolutely been there man! Some advice if I may, try pinning the model down by drilling a hole in the bottom of the model, putting a paper clip in and having that go through the bottom of the base, very sturdy! And transport I try and get foam like battle foam to fit those larger models, form fitting and safe! Hope that helps :)
I have those feelings even about the smaller models thst have a lot of detail. I picked up a chaos space marine character in a trade (and I don't collect chaos space marines). I'm not sure what he is, besides big. He has flaming skulls and is jumping. Point is, wow, super intimidating model. It sits, primed and highlighet, assembled minus his backpack and staff, on my hobby desk, taunting me. Thinking about wet-blending all of those flames is ths opposite of painting bravely.
Yeah the small highly detailed minis get me all the time. It’s hard to know where to start. Chaos Space marines in general are like that all the time too. I usually like to get an overall color and then fill in the details (armor trim 🤢) that at least gets me started and if I like the overall color then it feels a bit easier to keep going.
A very nice, and different paint scheme on this beast, Casey! Great job! If I may ask, do you do anything with your pigment powders to set them? I'm always been confused if they need something additional, or if they can just be left and they stay on okay?
Thanks! You can set them with a very light dusting of varnish, if the powder gets too wet it goes weird, but you can also just let it ride. The powder will come off over time, but not a ton so it’s usually alright.
I like to give myself lots of breaks when painting a large model. I'll probably spend a day or two working on it, then pause and start again in two or more weeks. If I was to work on it continually it would drive me nutty
Thanks for the video, thats been the push I needed to start my next project 👍 Since you are using pigments in the end on the base. I was always wondering if they rub off when you play with the models. I wanted to use them on my Sororitas but wasn't sure if I ruin everything with it 😬 Every advise is very appreciated 🙂
Those are pretty rad models though. Probably best thing to do is prep them and have them near your station, that way you can just throw some paint at one of them every so often, that’s what I’d do anyways.
I had this problem as well with the maw krusha. I was so scared to paint it. Took my time and nailed it. Super happy with it. I wish I could upload an image of it to show yiub
I tend to sabotage myself by often wanting to have at least two copies of a miniature, because if I heavily convert one then I want a copy that looks as it was originally intended. So if I have only one copy of a particular miniature, especially a more rare one, I find myself a bit scared of altering it too much, which stifles my creativity.
I've just been playing Elden Ring too much to paint. Gotta get some guys built for my kill team so I can take them on my work trip so I can paint in my hotel.
I disagree in a small part at least. My warhound was a pain, but that was mostly because of it's size. Now I recently painted a model from the plastic Horus heresy character range and it kicked my butt. It came out good, but man I had to go the distance
At least 50% off of msrp, or whatever the general higher price is if it’s a hard to find item. Even then, if it’s a well put together model and I just want to expedite the process (cleaning,building, gluing) then I’ll pay more.
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Those are some great miniatures! Very reminiscent of the discontinued RuneWars in style. I'd gladly buy some of those orcs and undead, in particular. :)
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I'm a licensed and practicing therapist who also loves painting minis. This was a great video and not something that gets talked about in this level of detail enough in any hobby! Great job and I love your channel, been watching it for a while now 😀
Thank you, this is very reassuring and I appreciate the comment very much :)
lol, yea I never expected my psych degree applying to war gaming but yea. It's the same types of cognitive distortions we're always subject to.
I mean we use DBT for everything else, should we start doing DBT classes for mini painting? Classes in non-metallic metal and distress tolerance skills?
@@aggonzalezdc That would be a DBT skills group I would be totally down for! One of the art therapists that I work with will sculpt orks and such during his groups and will have me paint them. Painting is also a great form of mindfulness for me at least.
Great vid Casey. Nailed it on the “thought distortions”and how we all are susceptible to them and how we can overcome them. Really great stuff man. ❤️
Thanks man :)
I will say this. When I started Kragnos I felt the same. Then I started painting it and one thing that most people don’t think about is because it’s so big, techniques are much easier. Glazing, feathering, stippling all are so much better with the larger model. I found that it’s not the techniques I was having issues with, it was doing techniques on a small scale. So i will say, my Kragnos is my best work to date because of its size helping me work on my techniques.
Yeah, exact same thing happened when I was painting up an Ironclad - rust and grime applying and other such techniques was so much easier on a bigger model for me
I have a similar issue when it comes to both building and painting...but it's with nearly irreplaceable vintage 80's era Japanese model kits, especially the really obscure ones you need to actively hunt for. This problem gets worse because, to get the best out of them, you need to remove seam lines, fix gaps and fitting issues and (in my case) mod work to slightly improve the kit to my standards.
It can go deep, and I’ve definitely been there during all parts of the process. I’m usually pretty hesitant to open small run models for sure.
It can go deep, and I’ve definitely been there during all parts of the process. I’m usually pretty hesitant to open small run models for sure.
It can go deep, and I’ve definitely been there during all parts of the process. I’m usually pretty hesitant to open small run models for sure.
I don't even paint minis yet alone own any, but subbing because this guy knows how to youtube. Writing, editing, delivery - all great. You can apply the lessons in this video to many things in life. Welp, looks like I am going to learn about mini's.
Much appreciated!!
Casey, this is good stuff. There's such a mental hurdle to clear when painting ANYTHING for a lot of folks (including myself). My motto that I always try to tell everyone is "it's just paint". You can paint over it. You can strip the model. You can add more and make it beautiful! It's just paint.
It's so important to talk about the mental game of painting and hobbying. There's a knee-jerk reaction to compare yourself to other painters that drives those thought distortions. Identifying and giving it a name helps us defeat it!
I'm adding this video to my "Required Viewing" playlist to revisit in the future when I'm feeling defeated by my work.
I've totally been there too. You really have to get over that first step when you hesitate, because by the end, you often feel so happy and satisfied.
Amazing, the blue scales and orange of the rust looks great!
Ohohoho!! This video caught my attention a lot! Your words resonate a lot with what my therapist told me too about my own problems (anxiety and cognitive disorders) and I’m glad looking at it reflected here to bravely paint forward! Thanks for the words and I think I’ll finally work on my Greebo Chaos Dwarves…
Really great video Casey. As someone who has come back to the hobby after 15+ years I could totally relate to these feelings when actually coming to put paint onto a mini and wanting to do it "well". I've learnt more by making decisions that haven't worked than those that have. Don't overthink and just enjoy the process.
My problem isnt the fear of ruining anything, but the space I need to work. I have a very small apartment (literally a one room studio with barely enough room for my computer desk and bed) and to paint I need to unpack the huge supply chest I have amassed and clear off the entire desk (as to not get paint on my super expensive PC system and monitor) and this alone holds me back as I cant just squeek out a few models or chip away at the larger ones littl by little. Its hard to get myself to clear off all that space for an hour long painting session so it becomes this thing where do I have the entire day to paint and if not, it will have to wait~
I thought I liked your channel a lot, then I saw the Bloodywood shirt. You just went up another notch mate.
Great video! My husband sent this to me, knowing I get nervous about even assembling minis. You made some really good points. I think I'll have to come back to this when I go to tackle my treelord for AoS.
To be honest, I have way more hesitation when it comes to foot soldiers. Big models are more often easier to paint and way more forgiving. Compare an imperial knight to a space marine captain. Both are centerpiece models although to a different scale. A captain has tiny, finicky details, that you want to paint to the best of your abilities. If you post it online, everyone sees every tiny little mistake you make. Compare that to a knight, where it is way harder to completely mess up. A small mistake isn't as noticable and since I tend to weather my models very much, these little mistakes are easy to cover up (painted over the edge while doing the trim? Eh, can be chipped armour later). Although I have to say, I like the more subtle models and not the extremely busy ones. The Void Dragon for example looks cool, but the amount of detail would be too much for my liking.
I feel that for sure. I would rather paint a knight than a smaller space marine character all day. I think it comes down to your own feelings though, like what intimidates you more as a painter. Cost, size, whatever it is, it can be tough to just get going sometimes.
While a high rez picture posted online will let people see the tiny details, on the tabletop no one is going to see them. Not from multiple feet away and probably in poor lighting.
@@Bluecho4 while you are definitely right, it maybe is also a me-problem. I tend to keep my face really close to a small scale character when I paint one. You usually don't do that with larger models, so you won't notice mistakes right away.
Really inspiring video Casey. I have been putting off painting my Bela'kor for over a year now due to anxiety and i feel as if you've given me the drive or motivation to start adding paint to model this evening. Instilling confidence in your community is really setting you above the rest. Excellent work sir
Awesome video! I'd love to hear more breakdowns on the psychology of challenging percieved failure and learning to paint... (ko)boldly!
Paint Ko Boldly! Love it :)
Oh man, I wasn't expecting a psych lesson in my painting video. Good job!
Great shirt! And keep up the great content. Love to see some Tempestus Scions.
I've been staring at my primed Nagash sitting on the shelf for over half a year now, no idea how to paint him and afraid i'll screw it up. I'm a half decent painter but i've always been worried i'll mess something up big time. Your video has helped me to regain my composure and start bunkering down in order to prepare to paint him. Thank you for you insightful words mate, great video!
Hey Casey, always like that you share your thought process on the desicions you make along the way and that is very interesting. I was surprised that leaving a WIP model on your desk works for you. I find is the opposite for me, the more I see it unfinished the more I get used to it being unfinish. What works great for me is hide it from sight. After a few weeks I will “re-discover it” and say to myself, “man this is almost done” and be motivated to work on it. Thanks for the videos.
A BLOODYWOOD SHIRT! Love those guys, criminally unknown band, real cool to see them here as well as all the great lessons taken right out of my psych degrees Casey!
Fantastic video. Hopefully this can help many people. Keep up the good work.
Your camera and framing are on point Casey, but I think it might be time to upgrade the audio. Not sure if it's the hardware or the mixing, but there's a bit of crunch to it that isn't quite meeting the quality of the rest of your presentation.
I finished a War Dog moirax recently, not a big mini but it’s a forgeworld kit. The airbrushing, weathering, oil washing all went extremely easily but then I started freehanding chaos marks on the lobstered carapace and my heart sank. It really felt like I was ruining an otherwise stellar mini. It also didn’t help that I’d started sponging on battle damage and it wasn’t quite there. All those airbrush blends and subtle shading from the oil wash? Gone, or very difficult to reinstate!
What did I do? I regrouped, calmed down and stayed the course. I ended up rectifying the crooked aspects of the chaos mark and fully committing to the battle damage. Finally the mini met the standard I’d hoped. I’m by no means an inexperienced painter but every new step forward can still be met by an element of fear. Best thing to do is believe in yourself and push through.
Casey you just described a significant portion of my model productivity. My 'grey army' or 'pile of shame ' has so much to do with the expense of the figure kit. I do a lot of 54/ 90/100mm Napoleonic and they are prestige figures with a 'prestige' purchase price... so just as you described they sit and are not done. Your pointed description help to 'burst the bubble' Thanks!
Perfect time to find this video, I had a different sort of distortion not with expensive models, but with the amount! Painting paralysis trying to figure out which unit I want to paint next I ended up not doing anything, this video came on and I said F it and just grabbed a unit and started putting paint on. Thanks my dude, sometimes the hardest part is picking the brush up.
Thank you for making this video I'm just starting in the warhammer hobby and I'm procrastinating on my chaos army, but now I feel confident that I can make it look good
That’s great! And welcome to the hobby :)
as always, top tier content, love to see Your videos, always learning A LOT from You. And now I also see we share a taste for music, Bloodywood rocks :)
The timing of this video’s release is incredibly auspicious. All these thoughts started creeping in last night while working on some Legion models. Paint was getting everywhere it wasn’t supposed to, things were taking longer than I was expecting, my wet palette wouldn’t cooperate, etc, etc. Looking back, I was creating every excuse I could dream up to keep from painting bland, off white armor and lost sight of the final product. This video was a great eye-opener.
I felt this painting my ork truck. NOT very expensive, but it has SO many tiny ramshackle bits. It's SO hard to make a plan and execute it. It's so hard to miss bits, and going back is so frustrating and disheartening
This is the second video of yours I’ve watched and wow, this was super inspiring, thank you!
halfway through and i just saw your bloodywood shirt. love it
I think the best advice you give in this video is just keep painting. a few months ago i started painting some dominions for my battle sisters army, and about 90% of the way though the basecoats i got overwhelmed by how many mistakes i needed to fix before i could move onto wsshes and highlights. they sat unpainted for about 5 months and that whole time i got almost nothing done. then, last month, i decided to just forget about them and paint a few new charcter models i was really excited to paint, but had been putting off sincei wasnt yet finished with my dominons. i finished them very quickly, and after that i was able to finish up my dominons pretty quickly too.
I really wasn't expecting such solid advice on living with anxiety from a model painting channel. I don't paint models but I find big life decisions and projects agonizing to the point of paralysis because of the distorted thinking patterns you described. The only way to get through insurmountable-feeling tasks is to start with teeny tiny baby steps - picking out colours and putting on the base coat, so to speak. Oh, and talk to a doctor - anxiety is a disease and it can be treated. My only regret is waiting until I was in my 30s to admit I needed help.
Miniature Painting + Feeling Great is the combo I never knew I needed lol
Your talk about thought distortion is really good. This talk can also be applied to many other parts of life, and its good that you bring attention to something I think many people deal with on a daily basis (I know I am one of them). Thank you
Really useful video Casey, food for thought. Thanks. Nice 'Dragon' too.
This video just gave me the encouragement I needed to start working on my Ahriman model! Thank you!
That’s great to hear! I’m glad I could help :)
Maaan....Right now I'm painting Archaon and his mount is a PAIN. First, it took me a month just to choose a painting scheme, then I didn't like it and had to repaint the skin. Now I'm struggling with his wings. From the start nothing goes as I planned with this model (especially the paints don't want to flow smoothly) . But right now things are starting to take shape,so the frustration is slowly fading. Great video and keep up the good work!
Getting through those initial steps is such hard work sometimes, sounds like you’re almost on the other side and getting to the really fun parts!
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Hopefully;-)
Seems healthy to mix in a little CBT now and again. Good on you for doing that Casey!
This went deeper than I expected, and I loved every minute of it. Top notch video.
This video inspired me to finally get into Warhammer with the purchase of an Imperial Knight. Still working on the assembly and magnetization phase.
That's great! Welcome to the hobby in full man :)
Thanks man, really helpful video. That mini is fantastic!
I knew that Game store looked familiar. Im out east in Fallon Nv. Im there once a month when I can get time to stop. Love seeing your content.
Hah, that’s awesome! That’s my main store but I’m kinda in the same boat, about a month in between visits, it’s the closest store to me but it’s still not super close.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues well here is to maybe one day running into you there.
@@RiverYeti_1186 for sure 👍
Loved this. Lots of good ideas on gumption traps.
yup, i really get overwhelmed when painting a large component to a army. thankfully i solve it by painting it while it's still in parts and focus on those
That’s a good way to do it.
Like the contrast between fire Orcs with icy Krusha!
Casey, where are the grass tufts from?
The tufts are army painter, I can’t remember which type, but I think it’s just the regular grass ones, not like burnt grass or spring whatever, just normal.
Boy, ain't that the truth! I've been through and still experience all the things you mention here, and I find that the best antidote to that is just to plunge in headfirst before I get too paralyzed with fear and just start slinging paint. Works for me, anyway. Oh, and do Bloodywood RAWK or what? I like them a LOT.
Bloodywood is super good!
I definitely like the plunge in headfirst approach, that does help me as well, once the paint starts flowing I can’t help myself but keep going :)
This is true, over the winter, I snagged a Verminlord NIB for $35 and I ended up building it and painting it in a three day span and did some basing and TMM that was outside my usual comfort zone and I know its because of the sale price. Had I paid full price, no way would I have experimented around nearly as brazenly. Same with my endless spells. Had I paid full price, no way would I dump and entire jar of texture paint on my Gravetide etc, so there's def a correlation here
Pretty much why I buy off of eBay! It takes the pressure off and you can really get in there and try whatever you want! It’s so weird how just the price can change how you think about it. The more I’ve gone for it the better I’ve felt about brand new models too, so it’s been pretty helpful to source minis second hand for so long :)
Until I got my airbrush for priming/basecoating I had that problem - Getting started is much easier now.
The airbrush really helped me too, that feeling of lots of stuff getting done quickly is a game changer.
For me it is the amount of time I know it will take for me to accept the final product. I don't mind long projects really it just when I have smaller jobs around, I tend to attack those knowing they will be game ready soon. Been working on some knights and have enjoyed the process. I find for me having multiple projects at the same time breaks the monotony. Which allows a break from time to time. Thanks for your content, always appreciated.
Took me ages to paint a giant due to all that skin on show. Really enjoyed it once I got round to painting it. Love that colour scheme
I just got a Finecast Thorgrim Grudgebearer model on his throne. I am sweating bullets trying to imagine what it’s going to be like painting 5 dwarves and a big throne. Wish me luck boys
Absolutely good luck! That will be so rad though :)
Had this issue with using my new sable brush (they are getting pricey). I was so afraid of ruining a 15$ brush.I kept telling my self I would use it for just the best HQ models and other better models. Finally I just did it and took it down and used it. Such a world of difference compared to cheap brushes. I may have only used it for just the last paint on the model. Your point about just jump in there and do get the paint down, really helps. It just a model get some paint on it.
I had that hang up with expensive brushes too. Now I use them for everything, they are too good not to use.
I'm resonating so hard from this video, but I'm vibing so much more with the BloodyWood shirt
He liked my comment 😆😆😆
I tend to work my way up towards bigger centerpiece models with smaller, less important models using the same color scheme to figure out which colors I like and how I want to use them. Before I paint my Great Unclean One, I'll paint a couple Plague Marines and a Myphitic Blight Hauler, for Guilliman it's 10 Heavy Intercessors painted as Ultramarines.
That’s a good way to go, get used to working with specific colors and then do the big fellas. 👍
I never had the words to properly describe how I felt, until this video. Cognitive distortion is the biggest reason behind me not actually painting my new Mawloc, or re-atempting my Hive Tyrant. I was so displeased with the finished product, I didn't paint the Mawloc for its own safety, nor try again with the tyrant. But spore mines, termagaunts, hormigaunts, etc, the smaller ones were so easy for me to do because I didn't have those thoughts. Im going to try again, just like you said, "They're just models"
Thank you for the awsome video, much enjoyed~
Blue was the perfect accident. The contrast really pops.
"Highlights" picks up enormous dry brush... and red Orcs
Haha, I did shoot some actual lighter blue and whites as highlights, but that drybrush kicked it up a notch!
What you are saying in this video also translates to what I’m doing while I’m watching. Sat here at work in Photoshop trying to edit a particularly tricky product image. It’s similar to applying paint to a mini in a way. Where you spend ages looking at the image as it’s progressing and you can see the flaws and hate the image as you are working on it. But I know I can step backwards in the history and re attempt something. Or start again if needs be.
9:26 I got excited when I thought I heard you say “Mordheim”, but it was “more time” 😪
Hahah, someday my friend :)
This is definitely a problem I have. I bought Mortarion as a Christmas present to myself, but was so intimidated by it, that I didn't start it until last week. Now it looks great and is a centerpiece in my collection
Just want I needed to hear right - I've been putting off painting Master Lazarus of the Dark Angels for six months now... Let's give it a crack!
I've never felt paint anxiety with expensive models (because all models are expensive to me), but it has happened to me with models that I REALLY like. It's the "I'm not good enough" fear.
For sure, the im not good enough voice creeps in a lot for me, for a lot of minis, but once I start putting paint down and working my way through I start to realize that the steps I take to paint any model still apply in the same way with a really cool one. Just gotta keep working through those steps until it’s done. And sure, you will be a better painter later, but you won’t be if you never paint that model, gotta get the practice in on all models in order to know how to paint the next one :)
I have those thoughts about regular models. It's because of a lifetime of always being judged on performance. Where something is only worth doing if you're good at it and can make money from it. That really makes things that I once enjoyed doing feel a lot less desirable. It takes a lot of will power to push through that mental conditioning.
Also, peep that @Bloodywood t-shirt
I know exactly how you feel, like, exactly. Granted, I turned this hobby into a type of job for myself, but I paint because I love doing it. If this channel didn’t exist I’d still be doing it. Sometimes it can be tough to push through and do a hobby that is purely for you to enjoy yourself, but you, as a human being, need time to recharge and feel good about you. I feel like if I make a mental note when I sit down to do hobby that this is my time, this doesn’t have to mean anything more than some fun alone time, then I can clear my head and not worry about why I’m hobbying, just have fun painting for the sake of it.
Just keep pushing through man, the more you get into the right space when you paint the more enjoyable it becomes :)
Love the shirt! I see you are a man of culture as well. Morty is btw my anxiety model. Especially since i built him completely.
My first model that i fully painted was a FW warlord titan, the size of it gives you so much space that it seemed less daunting than a FW primarch. Saying all that, ive been learning how to paint for years now so was able to implement that by memory to the model, it def got my juices flowing for painting the rest of my models.
I find Warhammer miniatures in general take a lot of time to paint because they pack in so much detail. Detail is nice but I have to alternate miniatures I paint because Warhammer burns me out.
I know what you mean. Some of the models they make have so much stuff on them that it’s almost impossible to decide what to do. I tend to stay away from those models unless I feel really motivated to put in the time.
Awesome shirt, talk about an underrated band! Also, really nice job!
Was that a bloody wood shirt I saw, I love those guys
Such a rad band :)
As someone with two different very large fairly expensive 5 headed dragons sitting in the pile of shame I understand these issues all to well.
Wha?! Two tiamates?!
Indeed, Reaper and wizkids.
If you get a 3d printer, it's even easier to shake off that reluctance to paint. You might have paid some money for the file, but the print itself was dirt cheap. There's no reason NOT to go all-in.
I do love a good 3d print 👍
I’ve been feeling this with my Archaon the Everchosen. Bought him from my FLGS assembled him over the next week then he’s sat on my shelf for almost 5 months because I don’t really have a plan for transporting him or securing him to his base if superglue won’t hold.
Absolutely been there man! Some advice if I may, try pinning the model down by drilling a hole in the bottom of the model, putting a paper clip in and having that go through the bottom of the base, very sturdy! And transport I try and get foam like battle foam to fit those larger models, form fitting and safe! Hope that helps :)
I have those feelings even about the smaller models thst have a lot of detail. I picked up a chaos space marine character in a trade (and I don't collect chaos space marines). I'm not sure what he is, besides big. He has flaming skulls and is jumping. Point is, wow, super intimidating model. It sits, primed and highlighet, assembled minus his backpack and staff, on my hobby desk, taunting me. Thinking about wet-blending all of those flames is ths opposite of painting bravely.
Yeah the small highly detailed minis get me all the time. It’s hard to know where to start. Chaos Space marines in general are like that all the time too. I usually like to get an overall color and then fill in the details (armor trim 🤢) that at least gets me started and if I like the overall color then it feels a bit easier to keep going.
This is super relevant to me right now, thank you!
A very nice, and different paint scheme on this beast, Casey! Great job! If I may ask, do you do anything with your pigment powders to set them? I'm always been confused if they need something additional, or if they can just be left and they stay on okay?
Thanks!
You can set them with a very light dusting of varnish, if the powder gets too wet it goes weird, but you can also just let it ride. The powder will come off over time, but not a ton so it’s usually alright.
Thank you for giving me the courage to finally paint my model
I like to give myself lots of breaks when painting a large model. I'll probably spend a day or two working on it, then pause and start again in two or more weeks. If I was to work on it continually it would drive me nutty
That’s a good way to go, don’t burn out!
Dang Casey, I came here to chill out not get behavioural therapy. Great vid.
Thanks for the video, thats been the push I needed to start my next project 👍
Since you are using pigments in the end on the base. I was always wondering if they rub off when you play with the models.
I wanted to use them on my Sororitas but wasn't sure if I ruin everything with it 😬
Every advise is very appreciated 🙂
I have the original Kingdom Death box just lying around for years now just because it's so intimidating.
Those are pretty rad models though. Probably best thing to do is prep them and have them near your station, that way you can just throw some paint at one of them every so often, that’s what I’d do anyways.
when i thought warhammer gets too expensive... i switched to some 3d models... and boy was i wrong thinking it will be cheaper :D
I had this problem as well with the maw krusha. I was so scared to paint it.
Took my time and nailed it. Super happy with it. I wish I could upload an image of it to show yiub
I put off panting my trigon for ages, but after starting it went smoothly!
Hello! Can I ask yoy, why you choose not to add blue reflexes on the metal plates?
I suppose, to get reed of grinding the shapes down?
Ahhh, Bloodywood! A man of taste I see.
I’ve been way into this band lately, so good!
if the maw crusha wasn't so expensive it looks like a really fun model to paint.
I came here to watch a nice painting video, and it ended up explaining my mental problems in writing my doctoral thesis 😅. Great video tho
I tend to sabotage myself by often wanting to have at least two copies of a miniature, because if I heavily convert one then I want a copy that looks as it was originally intended. So if I have only one copy of a particular miniature, especially a more rare one, I find myself a bit scared of altering it too much, which stifles my creativity.
Great video and alot of good ponts.
I've just been playing Elden Ring too much to paint. Gotta get some guys built for my kill team so I can take them on my work trip so I can paint in my hotel.
I don’t blame you, Elden Ring is really good! It sucked me in pretty hard for a few weeks when it came out, productivity dropped quite a bit.
I disagree in a small part at least. My warhound was a pain, but that was mostly because of it's size. Now I recently painted a model from the plastic Horus heresy character range and it kicked my butt. It came out good, but man I had to go the distance
For sure, those small modes can be insane! Especially those new plastic kits they are making.
“Am I going to be able to show my face at the hobby shop again?” Is a weird thing to worry about hahaha
I mean I was being sarcastic at that point, but still, what if?
Good video. Liked and Subbed
Thanks!!
Great video and excellent music selection
I often plan and think the colors for a model before I buy a large model.
That's a good idea, have a plan before spending any money!
When you buy stuff off ebay . What percentage do you consider a good deal off a used model?
At least 50% off of msrp, or whatever the general higher price is if it’s a hard to find item. Even then, if it’s a well put together model and I just want to expedite the process (cleaning,building, gluing) then I’ll pay more.
love this explaination help to finish lot of minis
Am I the only person who still feels this kind of anxiety even if I'm only painting a necron warrior?
You’re not alone, but the same things apply. Take it one step at a time and see how you feel. You got this man :)