I bet he was apart of the elite and those sickos look after each other. Somehow they commit crimes against children yet mysterious are never on any list or are held accountable.
Seems like you'd say "I can't talk about it, it hurts." He doesn't even sound like someone who's trying to fake the emotions let alone actually *have* any emotions. Just a very weird matter-of-fact way to speak.
I think he killed her His reaction Tone of voice His smirk and laugh as he talked He didn't convey or even try to use emotions when he talked he acted dead inside
Exactly! That's like the number 1 thing they tell you. If you think you have hypothermia, don't fall asleep, because the minute you do you stop breathing.
Yes he would have died if he fell asleep. Rarely do you wake after a hypothermic sleep. Rarely, not impossible but very rare. He’s a total murdering prick.
The smug smirk on his face says it all in that interview. He thinks he's the smartest person in the room, usually a red flag. No way this was an accident. He wanted the money.
I just looked this case up to see if anything has changed and the mother of Rhonda was actually charged with embezzlement for taking social security checks that were meant to be used for her granddaughter. I feel so bad for this little girl having to go through losing her mother and everything occurring since.
Im disgusted with the mother. Who sets up their 20 yr old daughter with a shmuck off craiglists. And then doesnt believe the younger sister when she speaks of the sexual allegations. She should be ashamed of herself. Convinced he did it for the insurance money. Pure evil!
LESSON: DO NOT go hiking on a steep trail with someone who has mistreated, abused or threatened you!!! Ladies, STOP trusting men who haven't earned your trust!
Rhonda was my friend, I was also her hairstylist.. we met at a Dave Mathews concert.. I was involved with this ongoing investigation, giving my statements to police detectives. Rhonda was the sweetest person and loved her daughter so much.. she told me the last time I saw her about the life insurance policy he’d taken out on her, and also said if I never saw her alive again.. that he did it.
Please follow Kendall when she says that everybody deals with things differently. I realized after the fact that the last time I called 911 FOR MYSELF. I talked super calm and normal, which I was told is why they didn't rush to the scene. (major car accident, both cars leaking allllll the fluids, air bags went off, many injuries. etc.) This isn't me saying what is right or wrong, or making a decision on this case, but we can't take 911 calls as a decision maker anymore.
The person who got it the worst is the poor child. Never will know her mom and her dad is a killer. On top of that shes in foster care where kids usually get abused. Poor baby.
She could be with her grandma. My niece and nephew are fostered by their grandparents. Financially, it's better for them to remain foster children than for them to be adopted by their grandparents.
@@docbuni yes I agree to an extent because an innocent child was involved in all this and now might live a sad or messed up life. Might be abused and will have to grow up without parents. That's an awful punishment for someone who did absolutely nothing.
All I can think of is Jennifer Coolidge in Best in Show being trophy wife to that ancient man and talking about their similarities. “We both like soup…and we love the outdoors…”
“I know she valued intelligence and that’s one of my strongest traits.” ...I automatically don’t trust any man (or woman) who pompously announces how smart they are.
Right?!! When I first started seeing my ex he would constantly mention how intellectual he was and how other people weren't as smart as him, he'd always belittle people when they voiced an opinion which didn't match his. And he'd tell me to 'shhh' when I'd have an opinion or challenge his 'intelligence'. He was an abusive sh*t, and looking back, not that bright. Xxxx
I'm sorry, he got *14 months* for assaulting a 15 year old?! That's disgusting. He took advantage of a *child* ! Drug dealers get more time than that...
When someone talks about the person they 'loved' in derogatory terms after death, not only is it classless, but it is a 'tell' that they definitely had something to do with that person's death.
I think he really devalued her as soon as she became pregnant and her body began to change. It's clear he has nonce tendencies and men like that are horrified by signs of aging and childbirth
I'm sorry, but he's chuckling and smirking to himself as he remembers the death of his girlfriend????? I know that people grieve differently but that seems so off to me.
It’s her moms fault for setting them up as a couple, and also the mom didn’t even believe Rhondas younger sister when she told her Steve was making sexual attempts at her while she was underage.
Wow! This whole case is disgusting! At this point I’m surprised they didn’t arrest her corpse for having a trace amount of weed in her system and sentence her to 14 years
So his girlfriend who he loved so much accidentally falls off a cliff then he casual walks down to her, realises she’s dead then decides to take a nap on her corpse. Then after he wakes up casually walks back to his car and calmly calls the cop? …. Nope not suspicious at all
Thank you for the likes ❤ Please sign the petition Kendall talks about in the beginning of this video, I did. I also wanted to remind everyone you have to go into your email and confirm the signing. It doesn't take much more effort. (My original comment) I very much doubt she asked him to look after her daughter.
It's also a bizarrely unnecessary thing to say. As the only other living biological parent of the child unless he's deemed unfit most judges would give him custody without question. The grandparents or some other interested party would have to contest it and claim he's unfit and then they'd have to prove it and the court doesn't make that easy because the rights of the biological parents are usually paramount, especially in the case of there being only one. Grandparents and other extended family essentially have no rights to the child whatsoever and will pretty much outright lose even a case brought against the surviving parent just for visitation rights so they can see their grandchild. So, while I agree that he likely lied and she never actually said that to him, I don't see *why* he thought he needed to lie.
Juniper i think it was an impulsive response to the police's potential suspicion. since he also randomly blurted out how he was gonna propose to her, he seems like he's not very smart in trying to appear innocent. he'll just say whatever he thinks will alleviate his guilt. it's also bizarre that he thinks her predicting her death is any indication of her fall being an accident. clearly he's very mentally deranged.
Ala Cwalina a grandma who didn’t believe her 15 year old when she told her she was being sexually abused? Rhonda’s family is clearly toxic I’m glad the poor child is away from the mess
@@californiapoppy true this does happen, however this was not a traumatic experience... he knew exactly what he was doing and didn't seem concerned on the phone call at all! considering that he just 'saw' his girlfriend fall to her death. This isn't me disrespecting your comment :) I'm just adding to what maria's comment said.
“Next question.” What? Is that how you seriously react when your loved one falls to their death off a cliff?? So basically what he’s trying to say is that he did it..
so he’s a child molester, an abuser AND a murderer and isn’t in prison for the rest of his life? what an amazing justice system we have.. and why is his daughter in a foster home and not with rhonda’s mother???? this case broke my heart
As a foster-adoptive parent I think it’s because she didn’t meet the requirements. She would need to meet all the same requirements as any other foster home. She could have been denied custody for a myriad of reasons- income, shape of the home, not having a room for the baby, illegal collection of rainwater, poor health, inability to physically care for a baby, etc. It honestly could be anything.
This is the one time after hearing a true crime story that I have been 100% certain that the main suspect did it. It was 100% the husband. No question.
He killed her. His story doesn’t add up at all, her running with a blanket, her turning around sharply despite knowing she was in a dangerous area. That doesn’t exactly make sense. Then him falling asleep on her body. His paedophilic ways and his history with violence. He shows no signs of empathy and has a lack of remorse. He can be passed as psychopath if tested.
The points of him lacking empathy and remorse might add up more to a sociopath more than a psychopath, but other than that I completely agree with you.
Maddie actually lack of remorse & empathy are psychopathic traits rather than sociopathic Sociopaths tend to be capable of much deeper emotions than psychopaths (usually because they are the way they are due to trauma, not simply born that way like a psychopath and other non-neurotypicals)
He said “I fell asleep on her body” bc he pushed her, and if they found his DNA. His excuse would be “I fell asleep on her body that’s why you found my DNA”.
I’d be calling for help immediately! Why would you even be compelled to try to climb down the side of a cliff after someone just fell off? What are YOU going to be able to do for them? They’re clearly not going to be okay.. I’d be looking for help ASAP! And yelling down to the person to hang on that you’re getting help. That’s just completely a lie that he went down there.
@@jessicagullo7004 Maybe he headbutted her. Or, since she was so slight, he lifted her over his head and chucked her off.bSounds far-fetched, but there has to be a reason he wanted them to know his hair might be all over her chest.
That's not true, there are people that do go to sleep after a funeral of a loved one as a way to cope. However, not in the exact moment that someone dies next to you! Like, wtf?
yea, I thought you yourself can place life insurance for your dependents. And you got to prove you are “worth” that much to support them if something happened
I don't understand how that can be possible and then on top of that, you die of mysterious unsolved causes and that person can still claim the insurance money?! How did this case slip by they always arrest people based on the insurance policy
Uuuuuuhhhhh he almost talks like someone who's recalling a mildly embarrassing incident he had & he seems very self centered. As someone who doesn't show a lot of emotions in similar situations myself I still think he seems waaaay too suspicious
Yeah. The way he was acting was a lot more than just “reacting weirdly” or “not showing the emotion people would expect”; he did show emotion, just not sadness or anything else similar.
the SECOND i saw steve and when he said "she valued intelligence and that's one of my strongest traits" he was suspicious. and when he said he just let her run so recklessly on a dangerous trail that lead to a VERY dangerous fall? like dude, you didn't even TRY to stop her if your story was true? it only got worse as his story went onward. and that interviewer when he said he fell asleep ON HER DEAD BODY, the quiet "...you fell asleep?" was definitely what i felt too. like, dude, what the fuck? steve definitely doesn't love her and likely never has, definitely just wanted the money from the life insurance. rhonda's mom also doesn't seem that great introducing her poor daughter to this guy... rest in piece, rhonda, you deserved so much better than all of this.
Sara Babinsack I think “needed help with the rent” was just code for “live-in sugar baby/prostitute.” And I think mom damn well knew that when she pushed her daughter to move in with this creep.
The mom creeps me out. She seems borderline abusive. She seems like the type of mom that Rhonda would of told her about the abuse and the mom would of said " just suck it up he takes care of you."
Looking at his interview from a psychology stance, when they asked him to describe what happened when she fell. He laughed and said he’s not going to talk about it. People laugh when they are guilty and when they are nervous and being questioned. If someone asked you how your loved one passed away because you were there to witness would you laugh? That was disturbing. And he doesn’t want to talk about how she fell because it’s too hard for him to lie about it’s easier to not talk about it
I can't believe they allowed this man to have custody of his child after being a child molestor....damn shame! The system failed Rhonda but justice always prevails. I love your videos, as always Mrs. Rae. Wishing you the best 🙏🏾💛🙏🏾
If you're smoking a sativa-leaning strain, there's a good chance you'd want to be outside and active. I know a ton of people who will smoke and then go skate, surf, hike, whatever. Not really that weird.
Plenty of people like to be active and smoke weed. You’ve clearly never been around extreme sports enthusiasts (surfers, skateboarders) nor avid hikers/rock climbers/ the like
Most adults who play that “I can’t remember” shit are usually guilty of whatever crime happened. I know ptsd can definitely make you block out certain memories of a horrific event, but this man doesn’t seem to be traumatized at all...
Omg, just watching that dummy fall and imagining Rhonda, getting a visual as go what happened, is so different from simply hearing about the case. Wow this has touched me. Heartbreaking... I can't believe she fell like that 😵
God i was like trying to give this man the benifit of the doubt but as SOON as you put those interview clips up i was certain. that dude is WHACK. 'next question' 'that part im not going to take you through' LIKE. DUDE DEFNITELY DID IT. WTF.
The way he says "My girlfriend fell off the cliff" in such a nonchalant way pisses me off. He's like "Oh my girlfriend just fell to her death, just another Tuesday" like wtf. In the interview too, when they ask him about what happened then (or whatever the interviewer was asking) he laughs and doesn't say anything. The way he talks about her death is like he's casually talking to a friend about something. He's so suspicious and idk how he didn't get arrested
@@alexvanoverSlashTraxNetwork He looks old and he is very very unattractive .............can not imagine what a lovely girl like Rhonda would want anything to do with him ...............ugh
Why did Annie have to go to a foster home versus her grandparents? She’s been through enough and should at least get to live with her family that loves her.
Actually depends the social workers have to evaluate the home the background of each member that comes in and out of the home the cleanliness and more. It’s very hard to gain custody. Sometimes the judge won’t always see the next of kin as fit and that’s where CPS comes in.
Josephina Davis it’s not THAT difficult to get custody. The foster system is overcrowded and underfunded. They want to keep kids with their families as much as possible. They must have had some reason to not find them fit.
I'm sorry but I'd be in HYSTERICS if someone I loved fell off a cliff...I'd never walk back to my car, I'd try to get them as quick as I could. The moment I heard his 911 call I was like YEP he pushed her. Gosh just watching the dummy fall made me flinch omg...
He's definitely guilty. His ex-wife filed a police report that he tried to suffocate her and push her off the balcony, how can they just let it slide? If the nanny wasn't there, his ex-wife would probably be dead. If it almost happened once, he could've done it again.
Jasmine Sanchez no way... why wouldn’t they look into that? that’s insane. i know they couldn’t use that as proof that he did this but it would’ve been helpful.
Well, he was 30 and she was 20 when they first met. But this happened in 2009 and she was 23 when it happened, so he would have been 33. Which means that today, 10 years later, he would be around 43.
That call to the police, come on, man. He doesn’t care at all “my girlfriend fell off the cliff so I hiked back. I’m in my car” and look at his face in the interview. There is NOTHING behind those eyes. He’s got issues as well as being a murderer
Natalie S right?!? I know darn sure if I fell off a cliff or my fiancé the other would be HYSTERICAL and wouldn’t leave where the other fell from. Most normal people who actually care about the person would react the same. There’s something wrong with this dude 🙄 His story is so off
they say one trait of a murderer/killer is narcissism. judging by how he was too concerned w his “hypothermia” to care abt his DEAD gf and how he says “rhonda valued intelligence and that was one of my greatest asset” um yeah…he did it.
I just saw in another thread, that Rhonda's mom is not a fit guardian for Annie. She stole $40,000 that were supposed to go to Annie, for her expenses growing up.
@@saraa1741 that plus when Melanie told her mom about the sexual abuse her mom didn't believe her I don't think CPS can put a child in a home like that.
Hold on a second.. he said those bruises were from shoulder surgery.. how could she be running with a blanket held up over her head a few weeks after surgery..? Can’t they check hospital records? Why do we have a justice system when it seeks to work in favour of criminals
when he starts bashing her, saying she was on drugs and so on, is a really big uh-oh. Its a common way , they tries to put the blame on their victim . from his behavery alone, I would say he did it.
@@arleighallwood2348 was wondering the same, maybe child services didn't want to give Rhonda's mother custody since she ignored her younger daughters claims of being molested
I dated and lived with someone 12 years older than me when I graduated high school. He was exactly as you said, abusive but also “parenting”. It was a strange time. He always put me down by saying I didn’t understand things or I’m stupid because I’m young. It was truly the worst two years of my life but I finally got the courage to leave and things got better for me. It still affects me 3 years later.
I was a bit 'parented' by an older boyfriend, its years ago now. It wasn't that negative for me though, i'd been through a serious trauma, and I actually needed a bit of TLC at the time. Sounds a bit weird maybe, but I guess a lot of it really depends on the individuals involved.
I am so so sorry you had to endure such trauma, you didnt deserve that at all! i am so glad you had the courage to leave, and i hope you are living your best life and surrounded by love and support
"I planned to propose to her"- Dude who definitely pushed the poor girl off the cliff. "Where's the ring?"- Cops "Umm idk must have like slipped out of my pocket or like you know teleported idk"- guy who definitely pushed the poor girl off a cliff.
Why did they not pursue where he purchased the ring? How much did it cost? Did you claim it on insurance. Of course you would have a policy for a 15~35k ring right?
@@Not_Always Where did you find the information that Steve received 40% of the life insurance policy? What insurance company was this with? Seems impossible to believe.
I’ve hiked this trail many times, and promise you, NO ONE runs at this section of the trail! There’s a friggin cable bolted to the side of mtn/cliff to hold onto to keep from falling off. Also, he’s absolutely guilty of murder. Duh.
How tf did he get full custody of his daughter when there is proof he assaulted a minor??? This man shouldn't be around ANY kids wtf
Hannah H RIGHT like this is all super sketchy
chunkymonkey9097 so true
very true!
Dana Davison fair point, legally this might be the reason why but morally it’s still gross smh
I bet he was apart of the elite and those sickos look after each other. Somehow they commit crimes against children yet mysterious are never on any list or are held accountable.
“ThAt PaRt iM nOt GoNna TaKe YoU THrouGh”
Definitely killed her.
Sable Verity Yeah, he definitely did. And that creepy laugh before he answered... what the fuck?
And his creepy smilirkuckle
Seems like you'd say "I can't talk about it, it hurts." He doesn't even sound like someone who's trying to fake the emotions let alone actually *have* any emotions. Just a very weird matter-of-fact way to speak.
"next question" .... excuse me??
I think he killed her
His reaction
Tone of voice
His smirk and laugh as he talked
He didn't convey or even try to use emotions when he talked he acted dead inside
I'm kinda confused about the mom introducing her 20 year old daughter to a 30 year old divorced man she met on craigslist.
Casey W. Girl same.
I'm glad someone caught that.
yeah like what the fuck?
And then not believing her other daughter??
Totally! I mean she was barely an adult and she introduces her to a total random 30 year old. Wtf!!
“I could tell she valued intelligence and I’ve always thought that is one of my strongest assets”
Okay he did it
my literal first thought
I hated him immediately at that point. 👎🏾
He was referring to his manipulation skills
I rolled my eyes so hard.. if that wasn’t a red flag .🚩🚩🚩Narcissist 🚩🚩🚩
LoL...Blowing his own Horn?,,,Much??!!!..It ain't about you Sir!!!!...Unbelievable...
If he actually had hypothermia then fell asleep he probably would have died.
Just realistically
Kate Riverdrifter true he probably lied to keep the attention on him and not her body
It honestly depends on how bad the hypothermia is so you could possibly survive but he was definitely lying
Exactly! That's like the number 1 thing they tell you. If you think you have hypothermia, don't fall asleep, because the minute you do you stop breathing.
Or stripped naked and been running around like he claimed she was
Yes he would have died if he fell asleep. Rarely do you wake after a hypothermic sleep. Rarely, not impossible but very rare. He’s a total murdering prick.
Ew. His lack of empathy reeks of guilt.
Heide J glad i’m not the only one who got that vibe
Heide J I don’t even think he’s guilty... he seems emotionless. 😞
When he said, "next question", what I heard was, "I did it." 🤔
KailaB 77 that comment was spliced he probably said that to a different question
Me fuckin too..
kc G we see him as creepy because we weren’t in love with him. She was
I don’t hear it. Time stamp?
He's smug and arrogant!
The smug smirk on his face says it all in that interview. He thinks he's the smartest person in the room, usually a red flag. No way this was an accident. He wanted the money.
“I think she was attracted to- well not his looks”
Me: “obviouslyyyy”
You kinda look like Kendall❤ beautiful
kitteekittee omg I just died ❤️❤️
hannahhipster I subscribeddd
@ITHEREONETHATHASNTDon't hold back tell us what you really think. Lol
kitteekittee she is beautiful, not seeing the Kendall though.
Steve Shouldn't be locked up...He needs to take a lil hike with me.
The whole trip he probably wouldn't stop complaining about his hypothermia
Stina Zimm me too
Yeeeaaahh
Aha I thought you was about to say something stupid 😂
Stina Zimm 😭 I love this
I just looked this case up to see if anything has changed and the mother of Rhonda was actually charged with embezzlement for taking social security checks that were meant to be used for her granddaughter. I feel so bad for this little girl having to go through losing her mother and everything occurring since.
That's pretty rough. She's still probably better off with Rhonda than foster care.
Rhonda’s mother probably set by Rhonda up with Steve so SHE could have access to his money.
@@therealopaartist of course she did. Could tell that from the moment she opened her mouth. White trash.
Wow
I'm not surprised. Rhondas mom set her up with a much older man. Didn't believe her other daughter of rape. And has her grandchild in foster care rn.
Im disgusted with the mother. Who sets up their 20 yr old daughter with a shmuck off craiglists. And then doesnt believe the younger sister when she speaks of the sexual allegations. She should be ashamed of herself. Convinced he did it for the insurance money. Pure evil!
@@griffonwillow7789 yeah she made her deceased kid sound like a gold digger like what the fuck
Don't forget the eye roll when she said pictures were taken of the bruises
Right, that Mom is definitely strange.
@@marycompton4815 She was probably jealous of her daughter, that shxt happens all the time, it's f- up!
@@littlebug1392 true
LESSON: DO NOT go hiking on a steep trail with someone who has mistreated, abused or threatened you!!! Ladies, STOP trusting men who haven't earned your trust!
Barb Ra LESSON #2: DO NOT push people off cliffs !!!
Lesson 3#: always bring a frying pan so you can hit the person very very hard so they be blackout then ran like there no tomorrow.
Lesson 4# Don't trust people who were found on craigslist
Lesson #5 grappling gun
Use it.
lesson #6 don’t let your mom move in with a guy she met on craigslist- and don’t let her introduce you to him
Did he lose the receipt for the engagement ring on that trail, too? 🙄
oh, that's a good point I wonder if they ever asked about the receipt?
Your right, surely he would need it for the insurance? 🤔
They should have asked him where he purchased it!! Went into the shop. Busted.
i mean there IS good evidence he did it minus the ring fell story i just dont understand why he's still on loose
I wanted to know about that, TOO
Rhonda was my friend, I was also her hairstylist.. we met at a Dave Mathews concert.. I was involved with this ongoing investigation, giving my statements to police detectives. Rhonda was the sweetest person and loved her daughter so much.. she told me the last time I saw her about the life insurance policy he’d taken out on her, and also said if I never saw her alive again.. that he did it.
I'm so sorry for the tragic loss of your friend.
Ive ordered pizza with more duress than that guy in his 911 call.
Same
Ikr !
Lmao
Please follow Kendall when she says that everybody deals with things differently. I realized after the fact that the last time I called 911 FOR MYSELF. I talked super calm and normal, which I was told is why they didn't rush to the scene. (major car accident, both cars leaking allllll the fluids, air bags went off, many injuries. etc.) This isn't me saying what is right or wrong, or making a decision on this case, but we can't take 911 calls as a decision maker anymore.
Sarah Sutherland lmao
If she was running with a towel and fell off where's the towel?
Exactly
Oof
Exactly, I swear these cops are dumb
smart
@@bonitakourtney8544 they keep proving that time and time again.
The person who got it the worst is the poor child. Never will know her mom and her dad is a killer. On top of that shes in foster care where kids usually get abused. Poor baby.
Hopefully she’s in a good foster home! :( so sad
How sad. I wonder why the grandmother didn't take her? I've not finished the video yet.
She could be with her grandma. My niece and nephew are fostered by their grandparents. Financially, it's better for them to remain foster children than for them to be adopted by their grandparents.
@@docbuni yes I agree to an extent because an innocent child was involved in all this and now might live a sad or messed up life. Might be abused and will have to grow up without parents. That's an awful punishment for someone who did absolutely nothing.
Whenever it starts with “they both had a love for the outdoors” you just KNOW something bad is going to happen 😭
I never noticed but now that you mention it I feel like 80% of the true crime cases I watch start with "They both had a love for the outdoors"...
All I can think of is Jennifer Coolidge in Best in Show being trophy wife to that ancient man and talking about their similarities. “We both like soup…and we love the outdoors…”
😂😂😂
“I know she valued intelligence and that’s one of my strongest traits.” ...I automatically don’t trust any man (or woman) who pompously announces how smart they are.
Right?!! When I first started seeing my ex he would constantly mention how intellectual he was and how other people weren't as smart as him, he'd always belittle people when they voiced an opinion which didn't match his. And he'd tell me to 'shhh' when I'd have an opinion or challenge his 'intelligence'. He was an abusive sh*t, and looking back, not that bright. Xxxx
@@cheekofeather6310 wow he sounds like trash. Good on you for throwing the whole man out 👏👏👏
@@TheRoseSavage ta babes. Yep 4 years of that ego bullsh*t. And he cheated on me- had a 3some with his ex and HER SISTER... Dirty little worm xxxxx
@@cheekofeather6310 girllll I know how that goes. Don’t worry, karma’s gonna get them, I’ve seen proof of it with my own trash ex 👌
@@TheRoseSavage WHY ARE MEN....? xxxxx
I'm sorry, he got *14 months* for assaulting a 15 year old?! That's disgusting. He took advantage of a *child* ! Drug dealers get more time than that...
AND HE KILLED HIS WIFEEE
Right?! What the fuck? Smoke a little green in the wrong area and you get YEARS! This creep gets 14 months? Jesus Christ!
Child molesters in the UK get a slap on the wrist and sent on there way.
Drug users get more time than that.
you can get more time from leaking test answers..
Why didn’t the police ask for a receipt for the so called engagement ring?
Nene Ferrari right or bank records. Then arrest him for lying
@@Desireestewartx you cant arrest somebody for lying about buying an engagement ring 😂😂😂
@@lindsey9153 actually, if he'd been under oath when he said it, he could indeed be arrested for perjury.
Lindsey why would he lie if he didn’t kill her? That makes him guilty, so yes he could be arrested.
Lindsey it wouldn’t be for lying it would be for perjury and obstruction of justice haha
When someone talks about the person they 'loved' in derogatory terms after death, not only is it classless, but it is a 'tell' that they definitely had something to do with that person's death.
I think he really devalued her as soon as she became pregnant and her body began to change. It's clear he has nonce tendencies and men like that are horrified by signs of aging and childbirth
It was painful watching the dummy fall. Just imagining that poor woman's last moments.
that was a hard fall . damn.
That’s what I was thinking too. So sad.
When??
Edit:never mind i found it
TaeLoveTae Yeontan when?
I don’t know how you can be so nonchalant witnessing your partner “fall” off the cliff. He definitely pushed her.
@BLACKTOOTH 333 you are everything that is wrong with the internet smh
@@blacktooth3336 huh?
"Next question." 😡😡😡😡
@@blacktooth3336 ur reply must have been pretty shit to delete it 😘😘😘
Ow yes, he did it
This guy is strange. There’s no way he didn’t push her.
He shows no emotions or empathy whatsoever. I wonder if he has killed before.
@@sueb2898 Quite possibly, he has definitely tried before. A "fall" from the balcony or stairs, both could easily be fatal.
I'm sorry, but he's chuckling and smirking to himself as he remembers the death of his girlfriend????? I know that people grieve differently but that seems so off to me.
Dude he definitely did it, he’s so guilty. Smh.
That 911 call was so nonchalant like that’s the same tone of voice I use when ordering pizza
ikr/?!??
Honestly I’m pretty sure I sound more anxious ordering pizza than this guy does calling 911
Brianna Webb wow I felt that 😂
also why would he just hike back to his car instead of wait in the area the incident happened??
Kylee Griffore exactly! He obviously did not care about her well-being at all
This is a horrible way to die, I'm praying for her family.
Seeing that dummy body fall... I can't imagine.
I'm glad no one wants anything to do with him.
The re-enactment was brutal. How could you even do that? Poor Annie living in foster care, breaks my heart. Dude is a GARBAGE PERSON!!!!
It’s her moms fault for setting them up as a couple, and also the mom didn’t even believe Rhondas younger sister when she told her Steve was making sexual attempts at her while she was underage.
Please her family is a POS too, trashy mother only worried about 💰
Wow! This whole case is disgusting! At this point I’m surprised they didn’t arrest her corpse for having a trace amount of weed in her system and sentence her to 14 years
I know right, cops aren't thinking rationally cuz THEY are the ones who are obsessed with drugs
Stupid
No one:
Literally not one person:
Him: Let me take a nap ON MY GIRLFRIENDS DEAD BODY!!
Him:BECAUSE THATS WHAT A PERFECTLY SANE NON-WIFE MURDERING MAN DOES WITH HIS DEAD GIRLFRIEND
That's not normal? Damn been doing that for years
Shannon Small I know... 😬 so creepy & so depressing.
Him: No big deal!
@@Sparkles._. *fbi would like to know your location*
He laughs during questions. He won’t answer questions. He shows no emotions. His story isn’t believable.
yea how can he change his story so much and the judge still stick up for him!?! I hope that judge feels horrible for the rest of their days!
And he tried to kill his ex wife as well
he's a psychopath!!
he definitely killed her, no doubt. He laughed when they asked him what happened
People laugh a lot when they are nervous so maybe..?
@@simplydxwny3365 yeah right.
I know right, who laughs when he is in an interview about there girlfriend who just died???!!!!!!???? No doubt in my entire mind he killed her
Of course he thinked hisself the clever person in the room..😟😟😟
Gotta love how our queen has her clothes matching her background lol
Hail to our Queen 👑We love her soooo much❤️
Ikr, Love her sweater! 😍
Coincidence? I think not.
So his girlfriend who he loved so much accidentally falls off a cliff then he casual walks down to her, realises she’s dead then decides to take a nap on her corpse. Then after he wakes up casually walks back to his car and calmly calls the cop? …. Nope not suspicious at all
Watching the dummy fall was just horrific, knowing that that actually happened to someone...it’s just horrible.
22:41
Right
So agree...ughhh...
Right? You can only imagine the amount of damage that will do to a human body when you see and hear those awful thuds as it falls, lands and rolls. 😬
Yes it was gut wrenching...
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I very much doubt she asked him to look after her daughter.
It's also a bizarrely unnecessary thing to say. As the only other living biological parent of the child unless he's deemed unfit most judges would give him custody without question. The grandparents or some other interested party would have to contest it and claim he's unfit and then they'd have to prove it and the court doesn't make that easy because the rights of the biological parents are usually paramount, especially in the case of there being only one. Grandparents and other extended family essentially have no rights to the child whatsoever and will pretty much outright lose even a case brought against the surviving parent just for visitation rights so they can see their grandchild. So, while I agree that he likely lied and she never actually said that to him, I don't see *why* he thought he needed to lie.
Juniper i think it was an impulsive response to the police's potential suspicion. since he also randomly blurted out how he was gonna propose to her, he seems like he's not very smart in trying to appear innocent. he'll just say whatever he thinks will alleviate his guilt. it's also bizarre that he thinks her predicting her death is any indication of her fall being an accident. clearly he's very mentally deranged.
The fact he won't even talk about the moment she fell says it all.
He knew if he described it to the public everyone would know he's lying.
And that disgusting chuckle
That’s because she didn’t fall, so he doesn’t know what to say, or how to describe it!
@@jade-wr9pn that chuckle reminds me of duping delight.
He was looking back at the moment literally with joy. Disgusting.
Her Mom introduced her to that. If he was the last bloke on the planet I would pass. So sad that justice was never served.
He has a really creepy vibe. Notice how he wasn't even screaming/ crying during the 911 call.
He acted like it was no big deal like wtf
His voice was shaking as if he was nervous..
@@Desireestewartx I didn't hear a single quiver in his voice
so? this doesnt mean anything
@@JuttaBerlin "doesn't mean anything". Are you kidding me? Who talks that calmly on a 911 call when you girlfriend just fell off a cliff ?!
The daughter being in foster care pisses me off imagine how she’ll feel by the time she’s an adult
Chanel Brooks yeah! Why can’t she be with her grandma?
Chanel Brooks exactly! And there’s no proof he did it so she could just live with him right.
Ala Cwalina a grandma who didn’t believe her 15 year old when she told her she was being sexually abused? Rhonda’s family is clearly toxic I’m glad the poor child is away from the mess
She can't be with the dad due to the fact that he is a registered sex offender
@@morgynnstedman9777 Why is registered? Did I miss something?? 0_O
Girl, green is definitely your color. You’re so gorgeous!!
I agree !
Shhe knows it too. Look how much green she has in the video
I want that sweater so bad 🥺🥺🥺
Sometimes I wonder if these judges are creepsters themselves... why else do they seem to always favor these types of guys?
Cos they're white, middle-class and male. It's like their super power. They can bling people with their privilege 😂😂
did they find the blanket she was holding before she fell? she had to of been holding it even when she fell?
Jamie Rain this is a great question!!
My thoughts too!!!!!
yeah the police should read these coments
This guy is a major creep!
He's so full of it. Adrenaline would not allow you to just "fall asleep" on a dead body.
i was waiting on this comment because how do you fall asleep on your fiancé DEAD body.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Adrenaline would allow you to carry her back up the hill. Then you'd fall asleep from exhaustion, after you come down.
but relief that you did it. might... hes a psycho
@@californiapoppy true this does happen, however this was not a traumatic experience... he knew exactly what he was doing and didn't seem concerned on the phone call at all! considering that he just 'saw' his girlfriend fall to her death. This isn't me disrespecting your comment :) I'm just adding to what maria's comment said.
“Next question.” What? Is that how you seriously react when your loved one falls to their death off a cliff?? So basically what he’s trying to say is that he did it..
I know everyone deals with grief differently but he talks about her falling like it was nothing🤨
And he smiled...what a sociopath
so he’s a child molester, an abuser AND a murderer and isn’t in prison for the rest of his life? what an amazing justice system we have.. and why is his daughter in a foster home and not with rhonda’s mother???? this case broke my heart
European Colonist i’m aware
J exactly, he is going to end up pushing someone else
J America’s system doesn’t punish the privileged and the marginalized equally
European Colonist still, almost all the comments here say he’s guilty so like
As a foster-adoptive parent I think it’s because she didn’t meet the requirements. She would need to meet all the same requirements as any other foster home. She could have been denied custody for a myriad of reasons- income, shape of the home, not having a room for the baby, illegal collection of rainwater, poor health, inability to physically care for a baby, etc. It honestly could be anything.
Why is the daughter in a foster home and not with her mother's side of the family?
Joy Binion I was wondering that exact thing.
This is the one time after hearing a true crime story that I have been 100% certain that the main suspect did it. It was 100% the husband. No question.
He killed her.
His story doesn’t add up at all, her running with a blanket, her turning around sharply despite knowing she was in a dangerous area. That doesn’t exactly make sense. Then him falling asleep on her body.
His paedophilic ways and his history with violence. He shows no signs of empathy and has a lack of remorse. He can be passed as psychopath if tested.
The points of him lacking empathy and remorse might add up more to a sociopath more than a psychopath, but other than that I completely agree with you.
Maddie actually lack of remorse & empathy are psychopathic traits rather than sociopathic
Sociopaths tend to be capable of much deeper emotions than psychopaths (usually because they are the way they are due to trauma, not simply born that way like a psychopath and other non-neurotypicals)
He is so cold sounding
hes a complete liar and psycho
Him taking their daughter to china just so they can never see her. He is controlling.
He said “I fell asleep on her body” bc he pushed her, and if they found his DNA. His excuse would be “I fell asleep on her body that’s why you found my DNA”.
I’d be calling for help immediately! Why would you even be compelled to try to climb down the side of a cliff after someone just fell off? What are YOU going to be able to do for them? They’re clearly not going to be okay.. I’d be looking for help ASAP! And yelling down to the person to hang on that you’re getting help. That’s just completely a lie that he went down there.
They were a couple, of course his DNA would be all over her & vice versa🤷🏽♀️
This is brilliant and I agree.
If that were the case he could've just said he was giving her CPR that's why his DNA was on her why come up with he fell asleep on her body...
@@jessicagullo7004 Maybe he headbutted her. Or, since she was so slight, he lifted her over his head and chucked her off.bSounds far-fetched, but there has to be a reason he wanted them to know his hair might be all over her chest.
Interviewer: what do you remember?
Man: LOL I'm not going to tell you.
Lady Breton 😂😂
He literally laugh! What a monster 🥺😦
Lady Breton I love the LOL but he definitely pushed her
I would never be okay with wanting my 20yo daughter renting a room from an older, divorced man. Ew. And the mom set all that in motion!
“Everyone deals with grief differently...”
Literally NO ONE takes an effing nap!!!
That's not true, there are people that do go to sleep after a funeral of a loved one as a way to cope. However, not in the exact moment that someone dies next to you! Like, wtf?
I did when my grandma passed away. I slept for days because I couldn't bear the real world.
Okay but did y’all sleep at the funeral???
@@idnilu That's completely different though. This man literally slept ON HER BODY.
@@kaeyasfavoriteeyepatch5924 Yes, I know. I was responding to the idea that no one takes a nap when grieving.
I don't understand how in America someone can take life insurance policy on you without your permission. Insane
Ikr America is weird I’m so glad I live in Australia
As an American, I 100% agree.
I've heard of a lot of cases made with forged signatures as well. It just seems far too easy!
yea, I thought you yourself can place life insurance for your dependents. And you got to prove you are “worth” that much to support them if something happened
America in general is insane , I live in America btw.
I don't understand how that can be possible and then on top of that, you die of mysterious unsolved causes and that person can still claim the insurance money?! How did this case slip by they always arrest people based on the insurance policy
Uuuuuuhhhhh he almost talks like someone who's recalling a mildly embarrassing incident he had & he seems very self centered. As someone who doesn't show a lot of emotions in similar situations myself I still think he seems waaaay too suspicious
Also his story sounds so made up even if he was in shock or whatever
Yeah. The way he was acting was a lot more than just “reacting weirdly” or “not showing the emotion people would expect”; he did show emotion, just not sadness or anything else similar.
the SECOND i saw steve and when he said "she valued intelligence and that's one of my strongest traits" he was suspicious. and when he said he just let her run so recklessly on a dangerous trail that lead to a VERY dangerous fall? like dude, you didn't even TRY to stop her if your story was true? it only got worse as his story went onward. and that interviewer when he said he fell asleep ON HER DEAD BODY, the quiet "...you fell asleep?" was definitely what i felt too. like, dude, what the fuck?
steve definitely doesn't love her and likely never has, definitely just wanted the money from the life insurance. rhonda's mom also doesn't seem that great introducing her poor daughter to this guy... rest in piece, rhonda, you deserved so much better than all of this.
When the interviewer asked what he remembered and he chuckled this man is guilty
Yes! Laugh is a sign of guilt in a psychology sense
Laughing*
I do feel he is guilty, but I've been told of a death and "chuckled" . We all react in different ways.
Right?!?!?! Psychopath
lavandahr my friend laughed so hard at a funeral she had to leave, people have different emotions, but this man is guilty no doubt
He needed help paying rent on his condo but showered her with gifts as soon as he met her?
Sara Babinsack I think “needed help with the rent” was just code for “live-in sugar baby/prostitute.” And I think mom damn well knew that when she pushed her daughter to move in with this creep.
@@daisy8284 did the mom move in with him or did she?
at me not the mom, just the daughter (Ronda)
The mom creeps me out. She seems borderline abusive. She seems like the type of mom that Rhonda would of told her about the abuse and the mom would of said " just suck it up he takes care of you."
@@roserubio6057 ya I must've misunderstood that part, that is definitely a little weird
Looking at his interview from a psychology stance, when they asked him to describe what happened when she fell. He laughed and said he’s not going to talk about it. People laugh when they are guilty and when they are nervous and being questioned. If someone asked you how your loved one passed away because you were there to witness would you laugh? That was disturbing. And he doesn’t want to talk about how she fell because it’s too hard for him to lie about it’s easier to not talk about it
Veron duping delight smile
Not one tear shed
joe monroe she/he said “People laugh when they are guilty and when they are nervous”.
@@joemonroe2249 yes, exactly. "body language analysis" is pseudo science too often used to strengthen preexisting opinions.
I can't believe they allowed this man to have custody of his child after being a child molestor....damn shame! The system failed Rhonda but justice always prevails. I love your videos, as always Mrs. Rae. Wishing you the best 🙏🏾💛🙏🏾
I feel like he did it. The way he talks about her is just awful. I’m sure he abused her if he did it to his ex. These people don’t change
Who smokes pot and wants to run around a cliff? Nobody that's who. He's a liar
You would be super careful and paranoid if you were stoned, no way would you do what he said she did.
Exactly. You'd wanna fxxx eat sleep and only with music would you wanna run around.
When im smoking is the only time I DONT wanna jump off a cliff
If you're smoking a sativa-leaning strain, there's a good chance you'd want to be outside and active. I know a ton of people who will smoke and then go skate, surf, hike, whatever. Not really that weird.
Plenty of people like to be active and smoke weed. You’ve clearly never been around extreme sports enthusiasts (surfers, skateboarders) nor avid hikers/rock climbers/ the like
Most adults who play that “I can’t remember” shit are usually guilty of whatever crime happened. I know ptsd can definitely make you block out certain memories of a horrific event, but this man doesn’t seem to be traumatized at all...
"Hehehe that part I'm not gonna take you through" yes it was him
Kendall: “would mean a lot if you guys could sign the-“
Me: *already done signing the petition*
Sister Shook Hahahaha same!!
it really sucks that the goal won't be reached by the deadline :( it still needs over 70,000 signatures
Kathia Munoz time to send it to every person i’ve ever met
Kathia Munoz they closed the petition :( hopefully they don’t give up and they keep trying
As soon as I saw I tried but it was the deadline and it didn't meant goal
That shirt and the green on your bed really makes your eyes pop
True! Kendall has beautiful eyes!
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The way he is speaking is annoying. And how did he get full custody.
Omg, just watching that dummy fall and imagining Rhonda, getting a visual as go what happened, is so different from simply hearing about the case. Wow this has touched me. Heartbreaking... I can't believe she fell like that 😵
I agree, it made it very real. It was pretty horrific to see that.
God i was like trying to give this man the benifit of the doubt but as SOON as you put those interview clips up i was certain. that dude is WHACK. 'next question' 'that part im not going to take you through' LIKE. DUDE DEFNITELY DID IT. WTF.
The way he says "My girlfriend fell off the cliff" in such a nonchalant way pisses me off. He's like "Oh my girlfriend just fell to her death, just another Tuesday" like wtf. In the interview too, when they ask him about what happened then (or whatever the interviewer was asking) he laughs and doesn't say anything. The way he talks about her death is like he's casually talking to a friend about something. He's so suspicious and idk how he didn't get arrested
He gives off such weird and creepy vibes, especially when he laughed. Honestly I sorta get chills. This doesn't really seem like an accident to me.
rūta j.m yesss same!! He got that stupid smirk on his face it’s just so creepy!!
My heart goes out to her daughter 😥 being in a Foster home and not with any family of sort. I hope they give her the love and best life she deserves
I find it hard to believe this guy was in his early thirties.
he looks 60 imo
He looks old as fuck.
@@alexvanoverSlashTraxNetwork He looks old and he is very very unattractive .............can not imagine what a lovely girl like Rhonda would want anything to do with him ...............ugh
He looked late 40s or 50s at least.
Same
Why did Annie have to go to a foster home versus her grandparents? She’s been through enough and should at least get to live with her family that loves her.
I dont get it either, Rhondas mother was literally in the video, she looks fine. Y is annie not with her?
@x Ugh
She's supposed to go to next of Kin, she should be with the grandparents.
Actually depends the social workers have to evaluate the home the background of each member that comes in and out of the home the cleanliness and more. It’s very hard to gain custody. Sometimes the judge won’t always see the next of kin as fit and that’s where CPS comes in.
Josephina Davis it’s not THAT difficult to get custody. The foster system is overcrowded and underfunded. They want to keep kids with their families as much as possible. They must have had some reason to not find them fit.
I'm sorry but I'd be in HYSTERICS if someone I loved fell off a cliff...I'd never walk back to my car, I'd try to get them as quick as I could. The moment I heard his 911 call I was like YEP he pushed her. Gosh just watching the dummy fall made me flinch omg...
Exactly! No type of emotion. Even in the interviews . He definitely did it!!!
That’s what I thought I’m like why is he so calm and why is he in the car I would risk my life trying to go get her
Alyssa J right? I wouldn’t be that calm at all.
I would be in hysterics if I even saw a stranger fall off a cliff!! His tone is sickening when he talks about it.
Her Name Thankfully he permanently lost custody last year. Their daughter is now in foster care.
Rhonda was stunning! I can’t believe her boyfriend took his daughters mother away….in the worst way possible 😭😭
where’s the so called blanket she was running with? this whole thing is so stupid, he killed her, point blank.
Exactly right! Why is this even a case?
He's definitely guilty. His ex-wife filed a police report that he tried to suffocate her and push her off the balcony, how can they just let it slide? If the nanny wasn't there, his ex-wife would probably be dead. If it almost happened once, he could've done it again.
Jasmine Sanchez no way... why wouldn’t they look into that? that’s insane. i know they couldn’t use that as proof that he did this but it would’ve been helpful.
He's only in his 30s? He looks older than my dad
Blastoisie it’s all the guilt, guilt takes a huge toll on your body and health!
Well he was in his mid thirties in 2009 and that was a decade ago so in the last few years when those interviews were done he’s in his 40’s.
@@bgunnerson8567 i was talking about the photos where he's in his 30s
I was going to say! I’m almost 32, and I easily look 20 years younger than this guy or more. Granted I look closer to 20, but STILL.
Well, he was 30 and she was 20 when they first met. But this happened in 2009 and she was 23 when it happened, so he would have been 33. Which means that today, 10 years later, he would be around 43.
His laugh during the interview when asked what happened next was SUSPECTTTT
SUS
they didn’t give Rhonda’s family custody of her daughter and put her in foster care instead? that’s ridiculous
remi B I know! Crazy
At the very least she’s not with her dad
That call to the police, come on, man. He doesn’t care at all “my girlfriend fell off the cliff so I hiked back. I’m in my car” and look at his face in the interview. There is NOTHING behind those eyes. He’s got issues as well as being a murderer
Natalie S right?!? I know darn sure if I fell off a cliff or my fiancé the other would be HYSTERICAL and wouldn’t leave where the other fell from. Most normal people who actually care about the person would react the same. There’s something wrong with this dude 🙄 His story is so off
Natalie S he’s definitely guilty
Question: what do you remember?
Steve: *laughs* that part i’m not gonna tell you.
1. why would he laugh
2. I thought he barley remembered anything.
they say one trait of a murderer/killer is narcissism. judging by how he was too concerned w his “hypothermia” to care abt his DEAD gf and how he says “rhonda valued intelligence and that was one of my greatest asset” um yeah…he did it.
I think he wasn't fully sure if she was dead yet and he wanted to make sure of it by trying to distract them so they couldn't reach her in time.
Why is Annie in a foster home if she has grandparents ?
Destiney Rosa Yes I really want to know this also!!!! She doesn't deserve this😢😢😢
Yes like why couldn’t the grandma take her like??
The grandma allegedly isn't clean legally
@@essies4294 ohhh how so?
@@essies4294 From what I've read, she also stole money from her own granddaughter
If he lost parental rights, why can’t she live with her grandmother? Why does she have to be in foster care?
That's exactly what I was thinking. It doesn't make sense.
Social services are very strange, kids go in care instead of to family members for various reasons
I just saw in another thread, that Rhonda's mom is not a fit guardian for Annie. She stole $40,000 that were supposed to go to Annie, for her expenses growing up.
@@saraa1741 that plus when Melanie told her mom about the sexual abuse her mom didn't believe her I don't think CPS can put a child in a home like that.
Whitney Jones exactlyyy
Hold on a second.. he said those bruises were from shoulder surgery.. how could she be running with a blanket held up over her head a few weeks after surgery..?
Can’t they check hospital records?
Why do we have a justice system when it seeks to work in favour of criminals
when he starts bashing her, saying she was on drugs and so on, is a really big uh-oh. Its a common way , they tries to put the blame on their victim . from his behavery alone, I would say he did it.
okay i really don’t wanna blame him and say that he did it, but he did it
On the other hand, I do want to blame him and say that he did it. He did it.
I feel sorry for their daughter she’s in foster care so now she has no mother or father I hope she’s being loved and taken good cared of
I wonder why her family doesn't have custody of her?
Hope so much that their girl raised on a proper way ,with love & care in this foster home🙏💖
@@arleighallwood2348
was wondering the same, maybe child services didn't want to give Rhonda's mother custody since she ignored her younger daughters claims of being molested
I was really saddened about the daughter.
The comments are saying that her family tried to steal the life insurance money from the toddler Annie so the court took away the kid
I dated and lived with someone 12 years older than me when I graduated high school. He was exactly as you said, abusive but also “parenting”. It was a strange time. He always put me down by saying I didn’t understand things or I’m stupid because I’m young. It was truly the worst two years of my life but I finally got the courage to leave and things got better for me. It still affects me 3 years later.
I’m glad you were able to get out of that horrible situation.
There was probaly a reason that girls his age didnt like him.
I was a bit 'parented' by an older boyfriend, its years ago now. It wasn't that negative for me though, i'd been through a serious trauma, and I actually needed a bit of TLC at the time. Sounds a bit weird maybe, but I guess a lot of it really depends on the individuals involved.
I am so so sorry you had to endure such trauma, you didnt deserve that at all! i am so glad you had the courage to leave, and i hope you are living your best life and surrounded by love and support
I'm sick of these abusive murderers getting away with their crimes. He should be in prison for life.
"I planned to propose to her"- Dude who definitely pushed the poor girl off the cliff.
"Where's the ring?"- Cops
"Umm idk must have like slipped out of my pocket or like you know teleported idk"- guy who definitely pushed the poor girl off a cliff.
Lydia Hilbers AND then he says that she is “disgusting”
@@---sm6vei know right? Like he's supposed to love her
Why did they not pursue where he purchased the ring? How much did it cost? Did you claim it on insurance. Of course you would have a policy for a 15~35k ring right?
So glad he didn't get her insurance money. Its going to the right person.
He'll try a different way.
@@miriamllamas224 probably!
He did though. Nichols received 40 percent of the money and the couple's daughter will get 60 percent
@@Not_Always
Where did you find the information that Steve received 40% of the life insurance policy? What insurance company was this with? Seems impossible to believe.
This doesn’t make any sense but I 100% believe he did it
Same I can’t believe this
I’ve hiked this trail many times, and promise you, NO ONE runs at this section of the trail! There’s a friggin cable bolted to the side of mtn/cliff to hold onto to keep from falling off. Also, he’s absolutely guilty of murder. Duh.