Can You Use the Jab in Self Defense? | Boxing vs. Streetfighting
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The question of whether or not boxing works in a streetfight is about the dumbest one ever. In fact, of all the martial arts it probably has the most evidence of its efficacy in the form of youtube videos, and it's even prevailed against multiple attackers on several documented occasions.
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''We train for the streets, not for the ring'': my driving instructor
What a pussy.
@@hard2hurt jajaja damn that s a very short and very funny thread!
Lol thats awesome! I think most people that say this mean that there are rules in the ring, and street fights don't have rules. Everything we think we know about fighting is gone the second we get surrounded by 3 dudes that want to fuck us up outside a bar at 2am. What's that jab going to do for me now? Have we ever trained against multiple opponents? Do we have a fight IQ high enough to even deal with that? Are we fast enough, and have the stamina to run away safely? If so, could we time it enough to actually get space to escape? One thing that really affects our fighting game is stress(or fear, whatever you call it) we're going to need to a strong will in order to overcome situations where we are outnumbered or outmatched, and if you always keep your wits, you will make the right decisions and rarely be outgunned, even against high odds. @hard2hurt Man I really dig your content, and look forward to future videos
why do you need to train for the street, just get a gun, dont waste your time, time is money
@@dbz676 If you live in Germany good luck with that... But of course it is a great option.
"I train to fight in the streets." = I don't train at all but want to imagine I am still tougher than conditioned athletes.
Basically
I am no conditioned athlete but I've broken multiple nose with my head / elbow.I've never said that " i train for the streets" . Sounds kinda cringe even tho I can somewhat relate to it. I dont throw shade at yall. my cousin is an mma fighter. Reespect
@@howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748 good luck beating a letwhei or a muay Thai fighter with elbows or headbutts
Hahaha very true but many people are conditioned enough to be pro athletes they just don't have the skills or athleticism to be one
@@howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748 Do you admit that your cousin could beat your ass?
I called a guy out at a bar one night. We went to the parking lot, squared off and he jabbed me in the nose real hard. I did the timeout sign and took him back inside and bought him a beer. We are friend to this day.
I knew from the second it landed we would be friends for life lol
This is why being a guy is awesome. We can have the beef, make amends, and be friends.
I didn't mean for that to be as cheesy as it was.
@awefawef awefawef yeah, because killing people is equivalent to barroom beefs.
Jones it was a damn fine punch.
awefawef awefawef come on man, no need to be nasty.
Its funny because people who "train for the streets" most of the time havent even been in a street fight before, they just makin excuses why they suck in the ring, lol
Yeah. It _usually_ means they cant fight
I'm not really familiar with people who say they train for the streets, but it makes sense to train how to get a fight over quickly and not to do 12 rounds in a ring if that's not what you want to do.
@@stevengruber57 fighting dirty. throwing headbutts , elbows, etc.
A few months back, at almost 2 am as i was looking for my phone in my car by the air thing.this mf Mexican guy a little bigger than me just walks up to me. thought he was a cop at first . he just walks up and leaned against my car door , caught me off guard.and i was all " fuck r u the laws?" and he just kept bein weird, askin my age, wouldn't show a badge.
He had a white socks hat on, took it off And turned it back like i was wearing my hat. Which was strange enough , but what sealed it was him saying he needed to frisk me... I said aight and turned away from him towards my car, as if I were complying , then i spun my right elbow into his face as hard as i could😭😭😂😂
he didn't go down but he stumbled back a bit holding his nose. He looked like he was about to cry😂😂😂😂 I yelled :u want more dog??" And walked up to him. he just stood there still holding his nose as I drove away from that parking lot
@@stevengruber57 bs. A boxer can end a fight quick, but he can also fight for a long period of time. Most people who "train for de streets" can't do neither.
@@lanceros8453 well a lot of training for boxing is to build stamina for a 12 round fight.
The jab has ended many scraps before they can really start
used 2be no
@@37H662 yup
ɮᴇᴄφᴍɪnɢ - War Robots the jab is not a warmup punch. It actually the most important punch. It helps set the power up for the lead punch. It also helps with your range.
@@m.o.5291 always start with a jab... if you like the left hook, only counter or combo it up with a jab, straight then load up with the left hook. Always keep your hands up. Fear the man whose practiced 1 punch 1000 times.
I believe so. Just the shock undoubtedly humbles a lot of people.
"consult your attorney, before you go jabbing people in a street fight" LOooL
Rules for street fighting:
1: don't. Get away from the situation if possible.
2. If rule number one is not possible, hit first.
3. Dont quit hitting until you are pulled off or the person is on the ground unconcious.
4: Make a quick exit and dont turn your back to the threat.
Legally carry pepper spray and a firearm and you won't get into street fights
@@artvandelay837 what if you can't legally carry?
@@PapaCasual I guess you're screwed. But seriously, don't be the first person to hit. Terrible advice. You can't claim self defense at that point if the cops get involved.
Art Vandelay If you’re not the first to hit then you might wake up in an ambulance wishing you were the first to hit.
@@sergiopayan5336 Hitting first provokes people and allows THEM to press charges.
"Consult your attorney before you go jabbing people in the face in the street."
This is the kind of solid advice that I subscribe for.
I've been outclassed (in the gym) by people who knew how to put the jab (and later the cross) where it needed to go and when. It made me feel pretty useless. The jab is an incredible punch. Punches don't have to be power shots to hurt. After I've taken a slight beating, I am regularly confronted with why this is just a hobby for me.
Was light sparring my friend who i teach some bang muay thai and bjj like didnt even close my fists and we were boxing and he tried to swing a sloppy right hand left hook and left his chin open and i hit him step back right straight and saw him wobble
Timing beats power
I use the jab a lot in a street fight...it always lands, plus its a perfect set up for the right cross...the "tough guys" cant move their head
how good is your footwork
@@dbz676 If u compare me with a pro boxer (i'm an amateur since '02) i'd say average...if u compare me with the a random tough guy in the street i'd say excellent at least...
@@kypselialani14 i think footwork is key to make you a king, to hit and not getting hit. How did you improve yours? i heard ladder drills are good for that purpose
dbz676 jump ropes, practicing moving back and forth, moving side to side and working on your angles.
@@dbz676 Wanna know how to improve your footwork? Do footwork. If you want to get better at something often just doing that thing works wonders
I worked as a bouncer for a few years and got to see a lot of twenty to thirty something males assault each other. Saw the jab drop guys on at least three occasions. Crumbled up holding their nose a couple of times, or clipped on the chin and out cold once. Saw it as a set up for a cross or flailing hook a few times as well. But, remember alcohol or a stimulant was usually in the mix for most of these alterations.
Yeah idk why but your chin weakens when your drunk
@@TheTokoUate It weakens because blood flow to the brain is reduced when alcohol is consumed so the force required to knock somebody down or out becomes less
And let me guess those guys came forward when then jab was popped out hence the KO also street fighters throw wide hooks a lot and straight punches beat wild winging punches so the jab or cross is killer.
“If he doesn’t know how to take a punch he’s gonna turn around and fuck off which is cool.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so true
I had a guy join my boxing gym a few years back. I remember him lecturing me for a solid 40 minutes on how his street fight background made him better than any guy from the gym and how he has more power. He told me he was so quick that sometime in his street fights he would punch guys and they wouldnt even know where he was half the time. He was really motivated that week and went to the gym every day that week. I haven't seen him ever since😂
bro's too fucking dangerous to spar
I'm the guy you are talking about. I quit your gym because I didn't want you or any one at the gym to learn my secrete street fight skills which I've polished in dozens of encounters by sucker punching drunk guys that were not looking. Maybe someday I'll be ready to share my skills with the CIA or some other elight alphabet government agency that I deem worthy.....
So these guys just went to the corner shop for some milk like;
“Hey we should do a video on jabs!”
“Yeah sounds good!”
“Like, right now.”
“Oh.. uh.. ok.”
Lol I was wondering if anyone was watching them through the windows
Their building is right there lmfao
He always does videos on 'street fighting' aaaa...get this, IN THE STREET.
He makes plenty of videos on gym work from inside his gym, which is right behind him.
I've only ever had a step ladder.
I never knew my real ladder.
I too have seen the opening act for Louis CK
That's a bad joke, but a pretty good bad joke.
Last time I "defended" myself in the street I was locked up for assault. The guy was in a coma for 3 days. Not that I hit him hard but the fact that I hit him a few times hard, his drunk ass did the stanky leg, fell, and hit his head on the concrete. I stood at the scene because one, I felt bad, and two, I figured since it was "self defense" I wouldn't get in trouble. But I was wrong... I whooped him so bad that I was considered a weapon because I've had the "proper training". So my advice to anyone watching and reading my comment, if you know how to fight because of proper training don't even bother with an average street dude unless your life is really really at risk. Not worth it at all. You will be looked at as the bad one to the cops and judge. So in my opinion don't use any skill in the street unless your life is in danger. You're pretty much more dangerous them the average douchebag.
Isaac Guillen Facts ! Ur a good dude . It’s better to walk away
Absolutely! Thanks for sharing this 👍🏻
@@getman4688 🙌🙌 thanks
@@TonyCougar1965 thank you 🙌
Isaac Guillen couldn’t you say that you don’t know how to fight and swung randomly?
The thing that drives me crazy in street fights, people moving straight backwards. If you're in a fight, are not a fighter, haven't trained, at least move to the side, and try to move away from their power hand.
That's natural instinct... that had to be trained out of people. We just filmed a video on this
Well thats not basic instinct, cause of you aint trained you dont know about the power hand 😀 its like people running straight away from a falling thing, instead of running sideways 🤷♂️
But you can't really tell which punch is their power punch unless you have trained/fought with them beforehand.
@@CousinJesse1 true but the stance people get in gives it away most of the time.
@@jamesmarhen Unless you train both sides.
I just train for fitness and self-confidence. Friends all noticed a change in my demeanour once I learned how to fight. I would also like to clarify that I have never had to fight anyone outside a ring *BECAUSE* of what I learned from training.
@@stefanh5699 you sound like a guy I know lol
Good, people outside the ring don't deserve to get beat up by you 😁
Stefan H that’s what we like to see
@@stefanh5699 hahaha class.
@@stefanh5699 you like to disturb the peace?
I think it's better to jab and stiff arm rather than retract in a street scenario, it's the fastest way to establish a line of defense and gain control.
I like the stiff arm or post a lot. It's a big part of our kickboxing and boxing curriculum
@@hard2hurt I think stiff arms and collar ties are foundational for "self defense" as well, realistically speaking grappling to strike comes more naturally to most people than anything else.
Jab, lead elbow, post, switch knee (if you’re orthodox)
That should drop em...
I trained boxing casually for years. I've been in a street (bar) fight twice in my life. Both are quick encounter which I threw 1-2 while retreating to a lunging aggresive guy. In both occassions they immediately ceased moving forward (perhaps realizing its not gonna be an easy fight) and it never escalated into an all out brawl. So yeah, jab is useful in a street fight.
and everyone clapped
@@AzrAEL-ls8iq u must be from a real nice neighborhood to think that doesn't happen lol
I been training mma and working with violence for many years. My firm opinion when it comes to fighting on the street against an anarmed opponent is that boxing is the best. A good boxer with a terrible good jab has every chance of winning the fight pretty quickly and with the least effort. Of course, with a little dexterity about the street rules. It's much harder to become a good boxer than to learn how to act in a street environment.
However this guy, Mike is verry complete as a intructor and teacher.
Some guy on the internet was acting really gangster with me and I told him I’m an amateur boxer and his reply was “I fight in the streets not in the ring”😂😂😂😂
You're legally not allowed to fight him until you get your street fighting permit.
Ive heard that before myself. I also hear "well id just shoot you" and I always respond "do you have your gun on your person right now" its a no 9 outta 10 times.
Plot twist: you're an amateur boxer in your garage
Sometimes
When people say that they mean there won’t be any rules .
@@ThePrideJJ if you’re fighting a guy who knows how to fight the rules are there for your own good. Not for his good. Where a dirty strike from you might hurt a boxer, a dirty strike from a boxer may kill you.
People need to understand this lol
I like how he explains and im binge watching his videos. 😂
The I went to the body part killed me 😂😂😂😂😂
Great video, as a boxer myself I couldn't have put it any better. I'd love to see a video of the explanation behind adjusting your wrist before throwing a punch. A lot of people tend to throw and connect with the flat part between the knuckle and finger joint and it's so crucial for them to learn otherwise. Keep up the good work, love the channel!
That's funny you say that, because I have at times hit with that part. I notice it and will adjust my wrist to hit directly with my first two knuckles.
First two knuckles bends my wrists so i land with th middle and ring fingers meaning square and flat this way my knuckles buckle fuckol which is weird also havent hurt my ring finger or knuckle cause of it either and before anyone asks i have ten years of mma and one year currently in boxing under my belt and im undefeated in mma and boxing.
@@erikbritz2637 I mean proper technique is to bend your wrist and hit with your first 2 knuckles. Idk why'd you have to bring up you being "undefeated", it literally serves no purpose in the conversation.
@@cerebrhus1428 it does cause i have zero hand injuries through my fight career and im using a slightly different technique try it out you will see what i mean
@@erikbritz2637 you can't compare striking in MMA to boxing my guy. I've tried different methods of striking through my 7 years of boxing and none are as efficient as striking with your first 2 knuckles. Now if you wanna say that you feel more comfortable striking with the one's you mentioned then alright that's what works for you. I've gone through many injuries and they become more prone when you don't strike with your first 2 knuckles.
As a kid my uncle used to make me throw the jab over and over again. He would say you lifted your shoulder or you dropped the shoulder or you pulled back. His whole goal was to create a punch that had no cues whatsoever and as I got older I could always land the jab. As I progressed I started to throw what some people call an upper jab from the below the waist or from waist level. I liked this better because it both gave my opponent the illusion of an opening and because it really opened up my line of sight. I liked to counter punch so that the left hand carried low encouraged attacks but with good foot and weight positioning coupled with being able to keep the chin tight to the left shoulder and being able to roll the shoulder allows you enough defense. The jab also is thrown from out of the line of sight of your opponent so with no cues the punch will land easily. Lastly I think that it is often better for a boxer to lead with the hook or check hook in a street fight. Most people who have never boxed can identify a well thrown short left hook. The punch thrown correctly defies the laws of physics LOL or at least it appears to. The weight transfer is backwards and the weight starts on the lead foot and ends on the back foot so that the punch is being pulled somewhat towards the person throwing the punch. It's trajectory is thrown from a weird angle and is usually thrown in such a way when thrown right that the recipient does not see the punch and if he does it is literally a fraction of a millisecond before it lands. Positioning is extremely important but if you know what your doing it is easier to get good position to throw the shot in a streetfight then it is in the ring, because the opponent in the ring has an idea of what sort of danger he is in.
10 out of 10, would go to the body again :D
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
robby forty-four so original
mike
Mike have a plan too, him trainer called it peek a boo
Ok but someone who's more prepared will likely win any battle over someone who's unprepared.
Mick Tisson
I read that back in day the jab was referred to as the "jolt" it was meant to be a fast surprising attack. Later on it started to be used more as a way to gauge distance and generally became weaker. Now i try to think "jolt" rather than jab, it reminds me what it's really for
2yrs later and all, but it all depends on how you use the jab. How you turn your hips, shoulders, foot position, etc can turn that weak jab into a power shot. Look at Sony Liston, or Julian Jackson. But, Liston especially his jab was fucking scary. Man was throwing bombs at people
I had to give someone a quick jab once and I followed up saying "I dont want to fight" and he backed off and I backed off. It was pretty nice.
U need to make a “I’ll just go to the body!” Shirt.
It would say "Just Go Here" on it.
@@hard2hurt I would purchase it
In the gym I train with 16oz gloves and have gotten used to the defensive coverage & hand protection gloves provide... so for people like me a steetfight is different.
For small gloves or no gloves you have to think more in the MMA striking realm. You have to rely more on head movement, parries, and footwork. I spent alot of time training in the kickboxing realm and the MMA areas and not all the defensive techniques from kickboxing transfer well to small gloves. You can't shell up or hand block the head well outside of big glvoes so you have to block with your whole arm and elbow. The upside to small or no gloves is you don't have to move your head as much to get out of the way, they can't hit as hard as in big gloves, but the impact is more dense and painful.
This is one of the issues that does crop up... I should do a video directly contradicts what I said in the last one that's always fun.
I train for the ring!
I train for the streets!
Me: *PUNCH IS PUNCH!!!*
Job is job
*shows mr. Incredible meme*
I can't let you get close
@@TOMDHARLEYJKD First of, you missed the joke
Secondly, im not sure you know how to fight
Toma Harley doesn’t matter, without the gloves any fighter could ko you faster and harder lol.
Cowboy Cerrone is a perfect example of this. Dude strikes no telegraph and keeps his torso over his legs. Doesn't reach or put himself off balance. Great video. Very informative.
In the words of AJ of what they taught him .. " a good right hand can take you around the block, a good jab can take you around the world" 👍🔥
I've had about 3 months mma and 2 yrs of on and off boxing so I'm by no means a tough guy. On a night out some drunk guy tried to tackle me for no reason so I pushed him back. He staggered his way to me and left his chin up so I popped my jab and he froze like windows 98. His friend pulled him away and apologised and that was it. Its effective at changing something into nothing.
FOR DA STREEETZZZ
the best method of self defense is still the half-mile sprint. if you can put maximum distance between you and a person as quickly as possible, not only does it make you harder to hurt, but that person has to seriously consider if it's worth the effort.
Awesome video
The jab is just a setup move for the rest of your actions
And it saves your cardio
Cardio is huge in a street fight
@Ej Teacher and distance/range👍
Cardio is huge in a street fight? Doesn't it last just a few seconds?
@@RonnieColeman80 it's beneficial but I mean yeah can be over in like one punch.
@@RonnieColeman80 no if they pull out the gun
@@RonnieColeman80 street combat's times can be varied, from few seconds like what you usually see to few days or a whole weeks like civil unrests (take Hong Kong for example), so yeah, you need a big tank or you're gonna gas out very quickly and on the streets, they only stop when their enemy(ies) stop moving!
Jab is a perfect range finder followed by straight right and left hook,Usually at that point people who start a fight in the street are looking at pavement or a way to get out of the situation. Most trained fighters don’t Street fight and will de escalate a confrontation which works well unless your adversary is drunk or drug fueled.
"I train for the streets" Sounds like someone mimicking stuff they watched in a Kung Fu movie.
The only street fight I was ever in I kept my distance with the jab, it was a very quick way of figuring out where I couldnt get hit by the other dude and I knocked him out cold with a right cross. Definitely worked for me
I always learn something good from your videos bruv. Shout out from NZ.
You were a police offer we know that, but where and when did you develop a passion and skills for fighting?
What is it 3 and 0 in scar faces back yard? lmao. You the man bro.
He had some unpleasant situations in the past becasue he was usually the smallest of bunch and he decided he had none of that
I view the jab as a set-up/distraction for what comes behind it. A nice pop will shock the guy and leave him open for a 2,3 or 4 combo. My boxing teacher drilled my jab early on; it took a while to stop the telegraphing movement. When you get it down and can finally hit your teacher in sparring session, it's an awesome feeling.
then what about a power jab
Too many street fights end up on the ground with the 2 girls pulling each others ponytails.
My Dad isn’t a wordy man, but one gem he gave me - that you just repeated, and which therefore gives you credibility in my eyes - is to always hit first. I was a kid when told him I always got butterflies in my stomach every time I was about to get into it with some bullies I grew up with. I wanted advice on how to not feel the fear. He didn’t give me that. Instead he told me that’s my body telling me it’s time to hit, and to make sure I hit first. It was, and is still, good advice.
Or u can just blast double before they swing and end it there
Saw a streetfight compellation of guys successfully taking on multiple attackers...Each time was about the same...They'd throw jabs almost entirely, and use stutterstep footwork to slowly back up, while constantly changing angles and checking behind or at least to the side. A few of them dropped 2-4 guys without getting hit at all
Yes jab in a street fight. I did that on this dudes chin real hard and a right hook to the body and he didn't want no more after that
around 6 years ago, the first fist fight I ever witnessed went like this:
Guy A was the school boxer, and Guy B was a thug. The thug even had brass knuckles on. I don't know what happened because it all happened to o fast, but basically, the thug recoiled back for a huge right punch while the boxer just punched twice really fast and the thug went down.
I think it was a jab and a straight, but damn that was memorable lol
I ve seen very effective Jabs in the ufc and bare knuckle fighting, so I can imagine it will work in the streets 2.
In the boxing ring it's a chess game mixed with emotion in a street fight it's usually just emotion. So depending on whether you know who your going to fight will determine on whether you want utilize the jab. He said it in the video if he starts coming at you tryna strangle or grab you, you probably gonna want to use some other techniques. Love this vid thanks for the upload
Bit of a tangent to self defence, but check out some Lennox Lewis fight videos to see impressive techniques based off the jab
At a pub one night, I saw a guy walking up to another in the same fashion seen in this video, he walked straight into a stiff jab that put him on his ass. Didn't end the fight as expected but certainly put the other guy in a favourable position. All tools have their applications.
I’d love to see a video purely dedicated to wrestling. Such as do’s and dont’s for self defense, what works, what you recommend, overall just your opinion on wrestling for self defense.
Best channel for wrestling tutorials is teach me grappling. He not only breaks down important details of each move, but also how to practice it in a productive way.
Wrestling takedowns and ground work for self defense are a "grey area," even most of the techniques in MMA would be awful in a street altercation - shooting a double on concrete is suicicidal. Realistically, you'd pretty much have to rely on a high crotch or suplex with a slam (lethal on concrete) or knee picks into ground and pound.
If its fair fight jab works for u to regroup and keep distance, if there is wepons involved, fck techincks and learn 50 yard dash
1:27 his face got worried 😂
I hope no one called the police and these guys in the parking lot LOL
People forget the jab is the bread of every meal. You can use it defensively, offensively, set-up, distance, keeping them outside, out of the inside, and plus most untrained people do not want anymore after a jab breaks their nose, like you said.
Depends on the aggression and fighting style of the opponent.
Yeah if your opponent starts doing capoeira, just kick him in the balls
@@officialdropfactory7048 I prefer the squeeze and twist
@@rampage2587 And then you just go to the body
@@rampage2587 I, too, like to give my gentlemen in combat a good reach around. Sometimes a caress to the taint helps as well.
@@officialdropfactory7048 😂
I would say the drastic difference in Boxing (or MMA) and “street fighting” is in the tactics, which you usually only see the vast difference in High level Boxers. It’s when they are so specialized that they know how to use the rules to their advantage. Example: Mayweather when he turns his back to help make distance.
what if he nails u with his left knee since your short?
If you're fighting someone throwing knee counters to jabs, you have much bigger problems do deal with than punch selection man 😭
I've used my boxing skills for street defense many times and it does work! My jab was very effective to injure and offset his forward motion. My boxing skills were more effective than my training as a martial artist. The one real martial Arts fight was over quickly because my opponent didn't know how to box.
*This reminds me*
of Bruce Lee's Sparring Footage at Long Beach 1964 wherein 90% of the time he only uses his Lead Hand
Umm... the _jab_ reminds you of that?
@@hard2hurt, yeah aside from Ali and Mayweather.
I find it odd that Bruce almost never uses his rear hand
@@duchi882 Never uses it when? When doing what?
@@hard2hurt, I find it odd that Bruce almost never uses his Rear Hand to throw combinations like a Boxer does and almost never uses it to throw a hook in the Longbeach sparring footage, the only footage I saw Bruce throwing a hook or using his Rear Hand was when he's hitting the Heavy Bag or in his films
That's the only sparring footage of Lee. There are some still photos of him sparring in the back yard. But, if you ever read his book a big part of his system was a "lead hand punch" thrown with his strong side forward. Modelled off Jack Dempseys "lead left jolt." I've only seen one guy really be able to use it in sparring. It takes a lot of athletic attributes to be able to control the range with it in the compressed time/distance and closing speed of a street assault.
Unless you have some particular training and style, jab should probably be your biggest tool if you have to fight and don’t really want to- it stops you from over-committing and getting yourself into extra danger, it allows you to show a little less range and speed than you can actually deliver to set your opponent up, and it buys you a little time and distance to hope that something will interrupt the fight.
Dude you are a very talented and athletic guy who clearly knows what he's doing but I don't know where you got the idea that being stupid somehow makes someone a better fighter, or even that you're stupid yourself. One of the most talented guys in BJJ I've trained with was a PhD. John Danaher, arguably the greatest BJJ coach of our generation had a Bachlor's, Master's and was working toward PhD before he dropped out. Shane Carwin was an engineer. Terry Martin a master's in clinical psychology. Carlos Newton a medical degree. Wladimir Klitschko has a PhD and speaks four languages.
Knowing how to fight and intelligence aren't like some oppositional variables that somehow cancel each other out. Plus there are a lot of different types of intelligence. Spacial for one, which you clearly have. Spacial intelligence is something that can exist and be developed in any sort of person, it's not some sort of special ability that only stupid people have.
Yo chill, I think what Mike means is that guys who get “sciency” WHEN they talk about fighting usually don’t really know how to fight. A guy can be a scientist or super intelligent and at the same time not be sciency when he is explaining martial art techniques.
What Wing said, also getting "too sciency" to me means going in depth and using big words which has a tendency to lose some people's attention. In this case that's unneccessary because people don't need the in depth discussion of how our brains process and react to movements to understand why the winding up motion can be bad.
@@wingso8221 Everybody's chill here, my guy. He's said similar things in the past, and more directly. Like "It makes it more difficult to fight well if you're smart". See 2:13 in the video below.
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In a “street” situation I agree not telegraphing is ideal if they’re aggressive, pushing forward and you need to get something in to try to follow up with something else, but a good power jab with the same untelegraphed shoulder movement and forward movement can knock a guy down if you catch him square or allow you to get into grappling or follow up striking range if you don’t have any options to use defensive foot work to improve your situation.
But in a more ring/duel situation the pump jab can become several things other than a predictable movement-a faint to setup untelegraphed jabs, a pump jab you follow through with instead of faint to catch over reactions, or force a retreat or movement to “cut off the ring”.
But yeah, hit with shots that the other guy can’t see, but will feel. Whether it’s letting a guy run into your fist or whether it’s giving the other guy a punch he thought he could see coming.
“Getting punched in the face feels about the same”
So gloves feel the same as bare hands??
Tbh the glove will buzz you more, the bare hand cuts more tho... gloves are to protect your hands not ur opponents face.
Anyname willdo gloves don’t hurt as bad as bare hands. There’s more padding which is why professional has less padding and amateur has more
@@lobsterairsoft499 They did tests on it i believe the glove allows you to punch harder, ive experienced both, imo bare knuckle didnt hurt has bad as glove as in getting buzzed
Anyname willdo guy google it takes 2 seconds. A bare fist will do more damage than a padded glove. There’s tons of videos and tests proving this and it makes perfect sense. Same amount of force over a smaller area with less padding equals more damage
@@MegaSlayerr ovo a glove dosent hurt that much, a bare fist tho hurts.
I highly recommend a jab if not for distance, for putting the attacker on their heels/off balance and follow with real damage. I faced off two (ended up being brothers) guys who attacked my girlfriend and I in our vehicle. One hit the vehicle with hammer fists to the back window of her SUV, so I got out as if war was declared. Dude did the whole 'yeah, you want some, you got it' with hands up, I took two or three steady steps toward him and then closed the distance with lunging jab to the chin and got him on his heels then followed with a nighty night right. The ol 1-2....over. Other dude came running at me like a bull 'that's my brother!' I tried to ole him and let his momentum take him headfirst into the pavement, but he got some of me and we both went to the ground. I was up a hair quicker and dropped him with a straight right. 'What did you do that for?' was the first thing out of his mouth when he sat back up. Maybe I knocked him back into reality or something. I dunno. No. 1 brother still over there on the ground wheezing and sputtering.
So....I will say, the jab is a great weapon to gain the upper hand when it comes to distance, balance and the fight. I didn't land the jab as clean as I know I can, but it was enough to tilt the exchange in my favor. Texas 2, Florida 0.
Free of speak from Sweden. I Love your content but. Why do you think every thing is rong? What i seen and heard every thing is rong. And jabbing is not to nock sameone.
I'm glad you covered the danger of the jab on the leading foot. It's unbalanced and looses all the speed and snap. It's known in some boxing circles as the "Lazy Jab". Even if you are jabbing to set up combo or gauge distance you should never leave your arm out there and, as you said, NEVER lunge into it. (if you are a right handed fencer and tend to box southpaw you may need extra training to overcome this tendency) + A lazy jab requires more effort in recovery (it's slow, hence "lazy") and will get you knocked out against a quick opponent. Thanks again for the great work you do in the videos.
This was actually good
My trainer learned me that the first hit is to distract them for the second. If someone is able to stand they are a danger for you (in case of a fight). If someone is truly trying to hurt you, don't just give one jab, that won't do the job
New guy - “ yeah I used to be a street fighter”
Me - *Opens door to cage*
“step into my office 😈”
Daniel Whiting heard that all before 😴😂. I have no doubt there are people who could hold their own, but against a legit aspiring prospect? Who does nothing but train his craft? Cmon man let’s not fool ourselves.
Daniel Whiting Well me personally MMA. But it’s silly to think you can not train everyday, and dominate someone who does, just because of past experience. He’ll there’s been times I’ve had an injury and been out of sparring for a month, and the guy I was cracking starts cracking me.
I was thinking about what to get my mom for Mother’s Day when I saw you mention “The jab should be a surprise.” Moms love surprises for Mother’s Day. Unfortunately this one didn’t go over well.
Guess she shoulda had her hands up.
When i started boxing 3 years ago i was taught about weight distribution but there is a difference between having weight on the foot or streching into the foot which is happening here with the back and front foot....
Long story short you habe to practice it a long time to habe the feeling of it
good vid! I would just add a scenario in which after throwing quick jab your opponent would try to land loaded up & huge hook (probably right one) so it'd be great to have prepared good ole one & two - after quick jab, solid right cross to open target/face or whatever would bring an end to disagreement.
Honestly... I do train for the streets and not the ring. I’ve been in the ring and on the mat before.
I’ve also been attacked on the streets before.
So, here’s why I avoid certain training that’s for the ring or mat.
The mat: I was on the Varsity Wrestling team in high school. One of the things that held me back the most in wrestling were my instincts wanting to go for a full Nelson, sleeper hold, striking, etc.
So my training for the mat conditioned me to fight with a set of rules that don’t exist on the streets. I did learn a lot of useful things from wrestling and all, but I eventually quit the team cause of how conditioned I got to following the rule set when I wanted to be conditioned for life or death situations on the streets.
The ring: not nearly as bad as wrestling. Cause most things that there are rules against you kinda wouldn’t want to do anyway for legal issues
There have been a few times that the jab has actually ended the fight where noone actually got hurt. After a few jabs the other guy didn't want to fight and he just walked away cursing at me. I think it's a psychological thing. The guy realizes he's been hit a few times, it hurts and cant figure out how to defeat the jab and sees that I was calm fighting and not throwing wild angry punches. I think a calm fighter is unnerving to some people. I always think of fighting as sparring.
Jab can be use to gauge opponent distance compared to your reach. If it connect, even lightly, followed up punch will have high probability of connecting too.
In my younger days I was in many street and bar fights. I love to shoot pool so when in a bar I was most of the time on a challenge table.
*One day back in the early 1980's I went into my favorite haunt of the day, The American HotelTo shoot pool, I went to write my name on the challenge board and some guy suckered me in the back of my head, accusing me of stealing something at a party the night before ( which I did not do) anyway we ended up going out the front to fight.
*His buddy came out also saying if I finish with his bro he's next.
(at least I didn't have to fight them both at the same time).
*We faced off, I was wearing my triple-soled Dayton biker boots ( I'm not a biker or a schooled fighter I just learned by doing it). Anyway I threw the first shot, It was a well-placed, Hard body kick to the liver, The guy dropped like a ton of bricks and was done in pain, I spun around to face his Bro. and he took of running up the block, I went back in and shot pool in peace...
*The moral to the story is; Yes a well-placed, hard body shot can and will end a street fight just as fast as a head shot
*This guy was not expecting it and never seen it coming...Now I'm 68 and my fighting days are but memories but I still shoot a mean stick,,, ; )
Jab and low leg licks are the most effective strikes in my opinion. In a street fight, you usually have an inexperienced guy lunging at you and you can end the fight with a powerful jab or straight.
But this is you are thinking as a Boxer, as TKD Person I disapprove dis.
I just lift my legs as a decoy kick like yeop chagi or dolyo and do the double take down and pin him with Kesa Gatame, works every time in street fight.
If the opponent more than one or two, I just need to outrun them in sprint marathon.
I would say yes. As a range finder. Or a quick daze inducer for a flurry of power punches to follow to end a confrontation quickly.
Its very common for fighters in all combat sports to underdevelop their jab.
The weakest jab I have ever experienced was from a Boxer who exclusively used his "jab" as a distraction to set up his cross.
A jab should absolutely be considered to be a potential knockout punch. That doesn't mean that its a problem when somebody feels as if another punch is more likely to get it done. But that should be a statistical notion born from experience. Not a wall of prejudice that stops one from developing a proper jab in the first place.
a few years ago I got what's called a "fight-bite", which is when you punch someone in the mouth, and their tooth cuts your knuckle and almost always gets infected. That sucked.
I was thinking on “ how can i land fast jumping jabs on taller chins” lol. Never searched about it. And the mind reading algorithm recommended this video.
I played Cosmic Ark like crazy as a kid and the space travel round of this Atari game really brings this point home. Just look straight at the ark and let your peripheral vision pick up the meteors coming at the ark and react to them. Same thing with that jab telegraph. It pops right into the peripheral vision center, very easy to react. By the way, you can find a Kimbo Slice boxing video showing the same principle as this video's trying to make.
Another telegraph is high kick preparation. Balance leg turns and hands go down a little bit. Opponent says me by his body language, "close to me and break my balance ankle"
I always love your videos.
I am one of those "karate nerds" with multiple black belts (Real and earned in the dungeon days.) I love the snap and no BS way you show the jab. In my opinion, a "grown ass man" should never expect to knock out another "grown ass man" with a jab. Hollywood has conditioned people wrongly. Apparently, feeling the distance and messing up someone's timing doesn't make for good cinema.
There are two schools of thought... if you are a trained/accomplished fighter most street fighters don't know what to do with polished boxing/Martial arts techniques. However, if I'm really in self defense mode, I'm leading with my power hand and trying to end it early.
I think I think........... I know from now on this is my favorite martial arts channel from now on...... So just to be sure I had to put from now on twice...... Actually three times now
I love so much when he is "quoting" with fingers. What a slick move for the fights I am fighting on the net constantly.
He makes a good point. Actually learning how to fight is a good way to learn how to fight. you need to feel like what its like to get hit and hit people back.
okay, i must say the auto focus on the camera you're using is the mvp of the entire video haha, great vid
You have many types of jabs and i will say all jabs are usefull in a fight meaning competition street bar ocean or in the toilet ;-) the jabs i use r the basic jab. The tapper. This jab, a light tap, can be thrown in quick succession. The backstep jab. The power jab ( straight lead in jkd ) the double jab and the counter jab. and no im not hating so keep up the good work i like your videos
The Dempsey drop step adds power as you’re basically putting most of your body weight behind it into the jab ,but, yeah, it’s easier to block, and if the opponent knows what he’s doing , can counter it easier. I’m with CN on this. The few times I used a jab in an altercation was to bring the opponent’s hands up to open him up to a single or double leg, as my background is wrestling. Once on the ground it’s usually pretty much over either by cooler heads prevailing at that point or a more convincing technique is used.
I'd like to add that a jab isn't limited to a fist. Maybe it's an eye poke or you have a blade, or it's a kick . You still train the same way with it. It's either a set up or a "get back" move.
MrByaeger yeah - use a knife hand to the eye and get an extra 6 inches of reach.
A hard jab usually works good in a street fight because the majority of people only have 2 starting moves. Either they throw a bunch of wild hooks repeatedly with no defense, or they dive for someone's legs.
Diving for the legs = drop your weight, turn and elbow them in the back of the neck. Wild hooks = either a hard jab, or kick to the groin, uppercut palm to the jaw, and a punch to the throat.
Those are my choices. The last one may get people into legal trouble though if they actually used it.
that has to be the best quick explanation of street vs ring ever. The street is just everything in the ring done on a time crunch with urgency.
A good jab mixed with defensive footwork has saved my arse on the street. When they cant hit you they get frustrated. Footwork and reflexes. Dont over commit in a street fight or you will end up on the ground with ribs and head kicked in. Thanks for the vid.