I Made Faraday's Spirit Lamp (Copper Chloride Synthesis)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- This halloween i wanted to make a special sort of decoration. I found this recipe for spirit fuel in an old book by Michael Faraday and thought id give it a try. Only problem is I didn't have the main ingredient! copper II chloride. So I made some :)
Hope you enjoy. this is my first video and I'm sure there's loads of quality issues. Ive got a lot of projects in the works and lots of ideas to share so Im looking forward to learning and making these better. Please comment what you like and what you think I can improve on :) thanks!
Check out my Instagram @fraser_builds - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The amount of lab equipment you’ve built from scratch is insanely incredible and I’d love to see the process to doing it, your videos continue to be amazingly informative and well put together, I guess I found you via my already growing chemistry addiction 😅
thanks! I really apprecite that, at some point im thinking ill make a little series just on making chemistry equipment😂
@@fraserbuilds 100% the chemistry community would love this stuff and I think it could get other people interested in chemistry as well, love your content and soothing voice, keep it up :)
@@fraserbuilds That is a great idea
id love to see that!great content btw@@fraserbuilds
@@fraserbuildsI too would love to see your builds!
Improvised vaccum filtration?
DIY magnetic stirrer?
Oh yeah, I know it will be the good stuff.
+1 subscriber
Dude, your DIY stir plate is ingenious! That deserves a video of its own!
Saves a lot of money too probably
Something about the hand made stir plate is sending me over the edge. I'm in love with this channel and with you.
Dude's got a soulstone torch from minecraft
To make a bright blue in pyrotechnics people add a copper compound and something that emits bright green (boron and barium) together (and chloride ions are also important) becuase human eyes are the most sensitive to green so it makes the blue appear brighter so your lamp might be even brighter blue with the addition of trimethylborate or barium chloride
Trimethylborate can be made from?
@@arnavtete7793 boric acid + methanol then distil
@@sciencething1449 thank you!
@@sciencething1449with sulfuric acid as a catalyst
you do wonder what you're breathing in though
grind the copper sulphate in a mortor before adding. it dissolves better if in a powder form. hot water helps too.
How does it feel to be a wizard with a vlog
I like it so far :)
You can also synthesize it in small amounts quickly using HCl as an electrolyte and 2 copper bars connected to a low voltage power supply. At some point the copper will form in the negode as fast as it dissolves at the posode but the ii chloride will reach a good concentration. Start with water and add acid drop wise to use all of the HCl, and drive the water off.
Also, methanol makes for a better fuel. It will handle a little bit of water better as well as having no incandescent carbon in the flame, so the green color will be more pure.
That said, use heat to drive off as much water as possible from the CuCl2 before you dissolve it in the methanol.
Your different colors in the solids are combinations of oxidation states and hydration, and will ultimately revert to hydrated CuCl2 (green-blue) in air.
To give a suggestion just for the end goal of a green flame, boric acid in methanol is very easy to prepare and gives a little bit more "limey" green than CuCl2 but still pretty.
*sits in front of his green spirit lamp in an otherwise underrated house all Halloween night……still cooler than all other houses in the neighbourhood combined. Nice.
Nah, found one of the best videos in the internet. 100% must do
Fraser the Great, my favorite wizard of all time
I like your stir plate sweet design. Im going to watch all your videos and i hope you show how you made it.
thank you! that was an old project I made before I started this channel. I was thinking I would make an updated version sooner or later though, and when I do that I'll make a little tutorial video about it :)
@@fraserbuilds I was thinking that a way you might like to make a combination heated/stirring plate is to take your design (perhaps your planned updated one) and add a few low-ohm 25W ceramic resistors. If you make a "shelf" out of the ceramic resistors, you could use 10-ohm ones at about 12V where each resistor added gives you 1.2A which is about 15W each (you can run them with more power if they are kept cool by what you are heating). If you'd rather have 24V and less current, use 30 ohm resistors or so. You'd either need a gap below them or something underneath that doesn't burn, perhaps some insulation.
@@fraserbuildsPlease do a build video. I make soaps, cosmetics, and resin art and a stir unit would be so useful
Good luck bro, I've been working on a stable burning blue candle or torch that doesn't melt out any metal on any container you keep it in, for six years. Making copper chloride is way easier if you just pour hydrochloric(muriatic) acid over the copper sulfate.
11:57- Yeah, that's beautiful! Glad it's on camera.
That flame is amazing, thank you for showing us!
First, of course, excellent video. Very well explained and still captivating. Second, where you from, dude? Your accent has the most interesting inflections.
That stirplate :D
Aye, that's done it, I'm subscribing!
I did something similar once by dipping desoldering braid (woven copper wick) in acetone, then in hydrochloric acid. Once it had gotten a little green, I pulled it out and used it as a wick for alcohol. Flame was colored.
(the acetone was to remove the embedded rosin flux)
Thats super cool and now im going to find a way to try that
Nice how it turned into crystals on second try.
That's super cool looking friend.
“Calcium chloride is really easy to dissolve, so I’ll just add a little bit of water”
*Proceeds to pour ‘water’ out sketchy labeled bottle*
Hey nice lab setup! You could build yourself a basic water aspirator. That will give you a decent vacuum for running filters and other setups normally requiring a pump
There's no way I could ever grasp any of this science, but the end result is so magical... Which makes it good science, I believe. 😉 So cool.
Squalor-core chemist right there. That’s when you know it’s gonna be good!
Nice! You did a great job!
I used sand in a cast iron skillet to cook meth the sand heated slow and evenly and added a bit of cushion for the flask
Really cool that you know how to do that. I think id of just got a green battery powered led light instead. Guarantee noone mentioned the really cool copper clorhide flame in the pumpkin. But again thats a really cool hobby youve got there. 👍
That magnet stir is dope
My man, you need a separatory funnel.
Also Buchner funnels are relatively cheap.
hoping to get a buchner funnel soon! along with an actual vacuum pump 😭
@@fraserbuildsI like your "comedy sized" syringe.
You can also mix ethanol and boric acid to get a mix of ethanol and triethyl borate, which burns with a nice green flame too. It does make a sort of hazy smoke though, probably not great to be breathing in boron aerosol.
Ooh nice spirit lamp!
First video I've watch, love it! I can see you getting a lot of use out of a 3d printer for your DYI lab gear
I had a bunch of copper sulfate solution from electroplating and added calcium cloride to produce a gypsum salt and dispose of less toxic materials. I hadn't considered taking the reaction further.
NICE! Going to give it a try
That, is awesome! Copper for the win!
The into was fabulous😂 “yea it’s kinda cloudy and boring soooooo… I need to make a chemical haha
Ok not gonna lie...thats really really cool lol..I loveee like haunted Victorian Edgar Allan Poe feel...granted the only way I would have something like that spirit lamp is if i buy one lol...
That is some super impressive mad scientist chemistry sir..major props to you and your channel..
Thank you!
I realize that isn't a heated stirrer, but CuSO4 dissolves much better in hot water. 20 g/100 mL at 20˚C, 73g/100 mL at 100˚C Just 60˚C is enough to double the solubility from 20˚C. It becomes 39g/100 mL at 60˚C. Any heat you can add (either as hot water before the stirring) or periodically, such as putting the beaker onto a heat source, will help with the initial dissolving process considerably. Also, I haven't tried it but try just dissolving some copper sulfate directly into the alcohol. While the CuCl2 making was fun, it probably isn't needed.
thanks for the advice! i normally just preheat the water before adding it to the beaker. unfortunately copper sulfate is essentially insoluble in alcohol, chloride salts are generally much more soluble in alcohols, though even then only a little can dissolve
"I dont have this chem that no ordinary person just has sitting around so instead im going to use these two chems that no ordinary person just has sitting around"
Thanks bro, made it much easier to try at home.
Crazy thing is I watched this and was like no way I have the first one but I do have the other two laying around
I love channels like yours. I wish I had the time to get into chemistry.
Dude's a literal alchemist.
Get you some Methanol. Go to the convenience store or wallymart or wherever you can find those color flame packages you toss into bonfires. Mix together. the ingredients don't ever really fully dissolve, but the flames in a lamp like that kick out blue, green, yellow, and flashes of teal and the colors are just way too awesome. I have seen bits of orange and purple also. (Load that into a home-made flamethrower from a fire extinguisher. GLORIOUS! especially over water or snow at night!)
This is really snazzy, I subscribed
thanks!
barium chloride works too, as it just forms insoluable barium sulfate... but now were dealing with barium chemistry which is kinda toxic.
YES so freaking cool
Thanks :)
Excelente canal, aunque no entiendo tu idioma, los químicos conocemos los procesos que estas utilizando, le llama la atención tus equipos, hechos a mano, me inspira a hacer los míos, ya wue los equipamientos para la quimica suelen ser muy caros. Saludos desde ARGENTINA 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
I was waiting to hear his mom yell in the background. "Fraser are you using my good cookware for chemistry again! Ima whoop you boy!"
Imagine how codys mom felt. She probably just gave up by the time he was 10.
@nunya bisnass I know I drove my mom crazy with that stuff. I made a wax and woodchip burner once. Was burning on the porch, my mom yelled at me to put it out. Im like ok let me get something to smother it. She yelled at me to throw water on it, I'm like ok... Threw water on it and whooosh! Fire all over the porch! Lol! Now I just drive my wife crazy with this stuff!
How'd you make that stir plate? Looks interesting
Thanks! I salvaged the stirring motor from an old broken hot plate, then just cut out a frame from plywood on a scroll saw. its actually held up pretty well so far!
Be really cool to put this in an old style hurricane lantern.
That was so cool!
But can I use copper acetate since I running out all my copper chloride?
Awesome
Thanks for sharing 👍
Curious how long yours burned for. I did this a few years back but I used HCL and H2O2 to make the copper chloride. I also used saturated methanol instead of ethanol because of the solubility. But my lamp only lasted maybe 5 mins before going out due to a buildup of slag on the wick. Were you able to get around this?
Cool stir plate! What kind of motor do you have in there?
It looks a bit like the stuff I got when I made some electrolysis experiments using copper for electrodes and a solution of table salt in water as electrolyte.
But it will still have a lot of sodium in it, that would be brighter than the green light from copper.
You can also get green flame with (preferably) methanol (but denatured ethanol will also work) & boric acid.
I read that ethanol doesn't work with boric acid. Haven't tried it myself.
@@GryphonIndustrialI tried both myself because I wanted to answer this question. Methanol did give more green, but ethanol still gave some green.
@@bpark10001 I might have try this with ethanol in a zippo. Would be a neat talking point.
Yum
Copper chloride be like:
I could be green,
I could be blue,
I could be violet sky,
I could be hurtful,
I could be purple,
I could be everything you like
Copper is awesome
nice job man~
thanks!
I think with an excess of HCl it should have a blue flame? I think it matters if it's Copper Chloride (I) or Copper Chloride (II)?
I made a vacuum pump with a large syringe, an aquarium air tee and non return valve.
Why not grind the copper sulfate into more of a finer powder? would that not drastically speed up the dissolving process?
Just gonna throw this out there... I tried an induction burner with a heavy stainless steel pot filled with sand. Round bottom flask sat very pretty. Induction burner burned itself to death. If it had been a water or oil bath, maybe it would have been ok. But a "sand bath" allowed me to achieve temps that discolored the stainless steel! The discoloration was consistent was temps around 700F. The induction burner had the ability to make than happen, but could not withstand the result. It was a less expensive model, but make of that what you will.
I tripped out at the reaction... When I snapped out of it I was confused as to what I'm watching until I checked the title
I know its been two years, but i would really like to know if such lamp release any toxic fumes while burning. I would love to make some incense sticks that burn green, red and so on, but i don't know how safe it would be. Or candles, as well.
The copper chloride lamp is generally safe, though it will emit some chlorine in its fumes, normally the small amount really isnt any concern, but with something like incense im not so sure. there are definitely other ways to produce colored flames however like methyl borate, though off the top of my head im not sure what the safest option would be
Can we make it cheaper with copper dust + salt water, Then boil it till dry and mix it with fuel? IDK will it work or not.
Make copper stearate, it is soluble in gasoline and other organic solvents. And the color of the flame will be white-green. For tinting the flame with metals, Trilon-B is best suited; it creates soluble complexes with metals, which allows you to tint the flame with ANY metal, but there is a minus - it contains chlorine, which slightly spoils the color of the flame.
Did you build the magnetic stirrer yourself?
yes :) it was my attempt at saving the stir motor from an old broken hotplate of mine
Wow the blue flame looks really cool 😎
Any particular reason for mixing up a CaCl solution instead of just dissolving the CuSO4 directly in conc. HCl and then evaporating?
using calcium chloride is cheaper, much safer, and not any harder
@@fraserbuilds Neato, price never occurred to me since I grew up in a house with a pool so always had "free" HCl on hand 😂
It wont work with mineral oil?
Because mineral oil pushes the water out of the wick. So even with a layer of water on top, oil lamps still work.
Has anyone looked into formation of dibenzodioxines, particularly TCDD in a flame that also burns copper chloride?
Interesting
Nice
If you haven't yet,; a brake bleed hand pump works for a vac alternative. Harbor freight has them. Don't get it if it's not on sale. It fluctuates from 20 to 40 all the time. That's the game they play.
love your stuff... instead of convection heating try microwave heating?
u know the air freshners u plug into power point.
glass make good lamps for paracord melting work. turn down a alum nossle plug with cotton wick or rolled up napkin.
Was that English?? Lol
@@landondavid5773 sorry ill dumb it down for you - get glass air freshener make a aluminium plug, drill a hole for wick, use as tiny rope end burner.
unga bunga me still no understand
you really need to get some glass pans for boiling down chemicals, its 100 times more efficient, and then blow a fan onto it and you can double that
now that is a really good idea
I threw a load of copper turnings in hydrochloric acid and then distilled off the water once all the copper had been eaten.... sadly all the hydrochloric acid vapours made loads of my steel tools rusty though.
Thats why I love calcium chloride! it can make chloride salts easily and does it without any fumes!
what happens if you use sodium chloride instead of calcium? or potassium for that matter?
or will it just not work cus table salt isn't acidic?
its the insolubility of calcium sulfate that pushes the reaction forward(the precipitation breaks the equilibrium) sodium and potassium sulfate are very soluble, so they wont push the reaction forward
Would centrifuging your solution speed up the process?
Did you bake the Epsom salt before dessicated
Not if you didnt 😮bake the Epsom salt before dessication.. lol has ... I thiught 9. But i fact checked it. MgSO4. 7H2O..... 7 so be at a close enough area i had already knew this so asking if did also. And nice video
The end solution you. Got from it all Is there anyway of just buying that instead of having to magiver ah hole set up
just buy copper chloride and some ethanol.
can we get a workshop showcase at some point?
Didnt expect to see you here, thanks again for uploading the ost to one of my childhood games🍄
You can separate water out with salt
Was there an actual green flash when the blue stone was added @ 1:13 or was that a camera glitch?
It was the editing software, I dont use it anymore but it would insert weird artifacts like that into my videos, i think it was some kind of compression glitch or something😅
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for taking the time to answer me on a vid that was put up 2 years ago.
Do you have proper air extraction in the lab?
its not necessary for these reactions. The only risk is the chlorine released from the flame, which is in such insignificant quantity it's essentially negligible
Thanks for telling me you're safe, makes watching these videos even more fun :)@@fraserbuilds
was there any smell from the lamp I mean differently from normal
no smell other than that of a regular spirit lamp
For those who need to know, copper sulfate dissolves better in hot water.
Can you just use regular salt?
I used calcium chloride because the calcium ion seperates out of solution immediately and easily when it reacts with the sulfate ion. sodium ions are more likely to stay in solution meaning at room temperature i don't think much of any reaction would occur. technically you can do crystillazations to separate salts that are both dissolved, but i haven't checked the numbers to see if that would work with sodium in this case, either way calcium was quicker. Thanks For your interest :) might be worth an experiment ;)
13:40 walter white lol
Could you have crystalized the copper chloride then added it to the alcohol?
yes! though the crystals will retain some hydration
@@fraserbuilds what about baking and grinding as with anhydrous borax? Would that work? Or possibly silica dessicants? ( Don't mind me, I'm learning :) )
The only common alcohol that can be desiccated with salt is methanol. But calcium chloride is also somewhat soluble in alcohol.
not sure what your source is for that, anhydrous magnesium sulfate is commonly used as a drying agent for ethanol, methanol, and isopropanol
The added magnesium sulfate will not completely stay in the water either. Even if you could make sure you got all the water out you would still have magnesium sulfate contaminating the alcohol copper chloride.
My experience with copper sulphate is that it doesnt matter if you add it slowly or all at once, it will still be a pain in the ass. Heating helps a bit but it can only do so much.
Why did you put water in the steel pan and not oil? Surely on an oil bath evaporation of water will be much faster as you can actually boil it.
ive used oil baths in the past, but without a thermostat to control the temperature oil baths can be dangerous, especially in enclosed spaces due to the low autoignition point of oil vapor. a water bath is safer in the household, though presently i use sand baths which i prefer to either.
@@fraserbuilds Just the regulator of the hotplate is enough? Just to heat to 110-120°C to boil the water off. Where I live every family here has a frying pot (to make french fries) in their kitchen, they run at 180°C with hot corn oil. Anyway for lab oil baths I usually use peanut oil, for temperatures up to 160°C.
@@bromisovalum8417 not this hot plate, the regulator is basically non-existent, trust me.
Green is from tetrachlorocuprate complex ion
Halloween only needs one ingredient. Alcohol.
minecraft soul lantern be like
I like the part where you make a spirit lamp.
Looks like jupiter