Great Composers: Johannes Brahms

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  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Hey, just a comment, Brahms and Tchaikovsky actually got along very well personally; after getting increasingly disgruntled by the perceived hailing of Brahms as the second coming of Beethoven, Tchaikovsky did roast him a lot in his capacity as critic, but was very surprised (and felt bad) when they met and he realized him to be such a nice guy. They ended up on very good terms personally, even though Tchaikovsky just couldn't get himself to enjoy Brahms' music. You can find proof of this in various of Tchaikovsky's letters over at the Tchaikovsky research wiki. Thanks for these awesome videos!

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Interesting! Most biographies on them tend to focus on their earlier animosity and the fact that they didn't care for one another's work. I suppose animosity and drama are more sensational topics than the later making-up.

    • @minka866
      @minka866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tchaikovskyresearch.com has some letters and notes about them. It is true Tchaikovsky imagined insulting Brahms if he met him. The Russian wrote to Nadja about that!

    • @prototropo
      @prototropo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So interesting. It fits, though-Tchaikovsky’s music is gorgeous on first hearing, whereas Brahms is gorgeous on the 17th listening, or at least takes a while-years, even-to savor. Compounding that discrepancy, Tchaikovsky was perhaps hypersensitive to other opinions and Brahms was hypo-sensitive to others’ feelings. Alarms go off-a fistfight brewing between the alto and bass clefs? No, it was just Brahms and Tchaikovsky meeting for an absinthe.
      But the waiter, mistaking them for bistro regulars Koch and Mendeleev, instead brought them shots of sodium and potassium, respectively, not realizing all composers follow their apertif with a quick swig of water.

    • @oritdrimer4354
      @oritdrimer4354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun fact: Brahms and Tchaikovsky have the same birthday (which is May 7th)

    • @raymondgood6555
      @raymondgood6555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure I have ever read of Brahms being called a nice guy or anything remotely similar. He drank too much and seemed to become increasingly insulting the more he drank. His personality was if anything difficult, exacting, and thorny.

  • @robinblankenship9234
    @robinblankenship9234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Honestly, you are doing for classical music pretty much what the History Guy is doing for history and Drachinifel is doing for naval history. Outstanding work.

  • @emilynightingale7758
    @emilynightingale7758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just started learning the cello sonata played in the beginning, such a beautiful piece.

  • @cruz8387
    @cruz8387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't know how your music channel isn't bigger. It's really good

  • @claudefazio
    @claudefazio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brahms was a very generous and kind human being according to those who knew him so it's no surprise that Tchaikovsky, despite their obvious differences in musical tastes, could get along well with him when they met.

  • @eliotmccann2589
    @eliotmccann2589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone else spray their coffee across the room at the 10sec mark, or was it just me?🤣

  • @blackmagentaorange5940
    @blackmagentaorange5940 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well THAT took me by surprise...... another great video job well done!

  • @dameg8976
    @dameg8976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this. Very enjoyable and straight to the point!!!

  • @markgoretsky766
    @markgoretsky766 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding presentation--concise, analytical, and stimulating!

  • @richardyu3591
    @richardyu3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks for this video - as always well researched and presented. i remembering coming across Brahms in high school and has fallen in love with his music since. His forms are conservative however he manages to bring new inspirations to these forms in such a creative fashion!

  • @KenL414
    @KenL414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brahms' chamber choir compositions have a very special place in my heart - it's among his must under-appreciated work, IMO. Great video, subscribed to watch more.

  • @ecyranot
    @ecyranot ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done. My only suggested improvement is to include the third and fourth symphonies. A novice might not even realize he wrote two other symphonies. And in my opinion the 4th is his crowning achievement.

  • @torram28
    @torram28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Please do a video on Prokofiev, or Xenakis

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Xenakis is in the request queue, and Prokofiev has been bumped up in the request pool.

  • @TheUtke
    @TheUtke ปีที่แล้ว

    Today, I have enjoyed several of your videos. Thank you. As a Dane, I once heard a story about Hans Christian Andersen being invited to a front row vip seat of a concert where Brahms was accompanying a singer in Copenhagen. But he prefered to buy his own ticket, so he could be near the exit, and sneak out unobserved, because he had a feeling he wouldn’t like it much, based on Brahms’ appearance and reputation.

  • @frankz4900
    @frankz4900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video

  • @agustinaadinearawinda7159
    @agustinaadinearawinda7159 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these! Can you please do a video about Pablo de Sarasate?

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your request has been reflected at lentovivace.com/requestqueue.html

    • @psijicassassin7166
      @psijicassassin7166 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassicalNerd Please do John Corigliano.

  • @jessicafrancoeur9655
    @jessicafrancoeur9655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was interesting and informative thanks :)

  • @DanDoroshDetroitMusic
    @DanDoroshDetroitMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An off topic question but I can't help but notice and wonder what those "rollers"? on either side of your bookcase are for. I just subscribed and excited to see more of your great content. Being newly interested in classical through my own life long musical journey, I couldn't of found a better channel.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are piano hammers! There's 88 of those inside a standard concert grand; the "roller" part is made of felt and strikes the 1-3 strings per pitch. I got them for free off of an old piano tech from my undergrad when he retired.

  • @BlindeEzel
    @BlindeEzel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well you covered a lot of ground in such a short time ! Perhaps worth mentioning : Brahms was very active to protect the music of Schubert, that was being squandered at the time.

  • @pauljones724
    @pauljones724 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved his intermezzos. And Hungarian rhapsodies. For piano.

  • @prototropo
    @prototropo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful, rich bio. More music by the composer of regard-little inserts?-would be great.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I try to do that as often as TH-cam's broken copyright systems allow me to (which isn't as often as I-or anyone-would like).

  • @G.B.P.
    @G.B.P. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man

  • @charlesdavis7087
    @charlesdavis7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe that anyone could fall asleep while Liszt was playing his or her music. Shut ones eyes, yes, fall asleep, no.

  • @SeadogDriftwood
    @SeadogDriftwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if you handle Renaissance composers, but would you be willing to do a video on Oswald von Wolkenstein - or, as an alternative, a video on late Mediaeval / early Renaissance composers in the German-speaking world (e.g. Walther von der Vogelweide, Neidhart/Nîthart, and The Monk of Salzburg)?

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wolkenstein has been duly noted: lentovivace.com/classicalnerd.html
      I'm more than willing to handle Renaissance composers; the issue is that the biographies I do are largely user-driven and there's not been a huge groundswell for anything pre-Baroque. I could add the other three that you mentioned, but my policy is to only take five requests from any given user and adding them would put you at five (with four of them concatenated at the very bottom of a 370+ person list).

    • @SeadogDriftwood
      @SeadogDriftwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassicalNerd Oh! I wasn't thinking of the last three as individual focuses - there's just too little material on them to make a single episode. I listed them together rather as examples. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It might be more useful to have a series of videos on some of the main movements and traditions of that era (for instance, talking about the _Minnesänger_ tradition or diving into the compositional techniques). The issue about such requests languishing at the bottom of the request pool would still be there, though ...

    • @SeadogDriftwood
      @SeadogDriftwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassicalNerd Agreed - that would have more info available.
      The lack of public interest is practically a given with such esoteric subjects. Still, might as well see it on the list, I figure!

  • @masadiceronio4577
    @masadiceronio4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your intro! 🤣

  • @antoineminiconi4943
    @antoineminiconi4943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot

  • @christiancortes4400
    @christiancortes4400 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please do one on bizet

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As I have replied before: I admire your dedication to requesting this, but requesting it on every single video isn't going to make it come faster! I still am obligated to fulfill all earlier requests.

  • @miamadojesus
    @miamadojesus ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahora que, por fin, subtitulan al español este documental, lo hacen tan deprisa, que casi no da tiempo a leerlo. Espero que lo solucionen. Gracias.

  • @kieran77mcrae
    @kieran77mcrae 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am interested to know where the history side of Brahms was gleaned from ???

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you asking about sources? Jan Swafford's 1999 biography of Brahms was a primary source, and I usually supplement books from my shelf with academic sources like dissertations and theses. Unfortunately this video was made long enough ago that I no longer have a list of sources.

    • @Rach1941
      @Rach1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassicalNerd I too learned most of what I know about Brahms’s life and compositional development from Swafford’s highly-readable and informative biography. Surprised to hear you remark that those rather sordid stories of the pre- pubescent Brahms working as piano player at the seediest pubs/houses of prostitution along the docks of Hamburg might never have happened. Swafford suggests this early nightly exposure to women engaged in sex with rough sailors around him caused his later problems with women and romantic relationships with them (aside from his long and intense but ambivalent friendship with Clara).

  • @hifrommike2120
    @hifrommike2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There's Brahms & then there's everybody else.

  • @edwardwalter3100
    @edwardwalter3100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GET OUT with that intro! My kids just told me to stop laughing!

  • @robbydyer4500
    @robbydyer4500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Clara definitely fell in love with Brahms and he was likely the one to break off romantic relations, rather than vice-versa, as he did with Agathe and so on.

  • @CMI2017
    @CMI2017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brahms admired Wagner (and had a piano score of Tristan wihch Wagner was not happy about as a sort of copyright leak) though not all his work without the pathological hatred that Clara Schumann had for anything by Wagner. He did not rate Lizst at all and the other New German composers who were shrill fools in his view.

  • @gerritsevereid4657
    @gerritsevereid4657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you please do Telemann?

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Telemann is now in the request pool.

    • @gerritsevereid4657
      @gerritsevereid4657 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classical Nerd Thank you so much! you’re work here is amazing and I love your videos! im currently a freshman violist in high school and these videos totally satisfy my interest in music history. You’re so unappreciated, thank you for these videos. I’ll try to find some of your music :)

  • @robinblankenship9234
    @robinblankenship9234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about a campaign to rebrand Brahms as a clean shaven man. He was that until his later years.

  • @junenovae
    @junenovae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I couldn't find any evidence of the hate between Brahms and Liszt, what are your sources on that one, I'm very intrigued cause I like this story, but at the same time I've heard as many times it was true as I heard it was not.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My primary source on this video was Jan Swafford's biography of Brahms. It's not the most recent research so there were a few minor things that I tweaked, but the story of Brahms falling asleep during Liszt's _Sonata_ is one that's corroborated by many other musicologists.

  • @haaladbam3665
    @haaladbam3665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    00:09 OMG! I'M DEAAAAD 💀💀💀💀

  • @channings.wright7041
    @channings.wright7041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still waiting for a vid about either nadia or lilli boulanger

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did both of them in March 2017.

    • @channings.wright7041
      @channings.wright7041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ClassicalNerd I didn't know that! Time to add 1 to that view count

  • @carumartinho9663
    @carumartinho9663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love Brahms. I would even say ... more than Wagner... :D

  • @abrahammignon9496
    @abrahammignon9496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guten Tag. "JOHANNES BRAHMS".

  • @allesvergaengliche
    @allesvergaengliche 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    please do a bio on Karol Szymanowski

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Duly noted: lentovivace.com/classicalnerd.html

    • @prototropo
      @prototropo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now, shouldn’t the stoic elegance of Handel earn a processional step ahead of Szymanowski, Hindemith, Telemann or Bizet?
      (The answer’s yes, though I love the others, too).

  • @michaelspeir6086
    @michaelspeir6086 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As much credit as Brahms gets, he should be getting even more.

  • @ericrakestraw664
    @ericrakestraw664 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No mention of Brahms's Lullaby? What gives? ;)

    • @vinista256
      @vinista256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This channel is called “Classical Nerd” for a reason, hon. Its goal is not to catalog all of the “greatest hits” that even non-musicians are familiar with 😉

  • @vinista256
    @vinista256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:53 LOL-Brahms men have the milfer gene 🧬. Regarding whether Brahms was a misogynist, it’s actually more complicated-it seems that he divided most of womankind into those he respected and yearned for, on the one hand, and those he had sex with (mostly while frequenting brothels), on the other. (Dame Ethel Smyth fell into neither category, and you are right that he criticized her music on its merits … or lack thereof.)

  • @zacharywhite5466
    @zacharywhite5466 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hindemith???

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your request has been reflected in the request pool!

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You kinda need more actual MUSIC.

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No matter where the balance is, I can't please everyone. Basically I try to make sure that the music doesn't interfere with the talking, so sometimes there's more and sometimes there's less.

  • @verslaflamme666
    @verslaflamme666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brahms is far from the savior of music!!!!!!!!

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean, Schumann's been dead for over 150 years, so I don't know if getting overly worked up about what he said is helpful ...

    • @nidhishshivashankar4885
      @nidhishshivashankar4885 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ClassicalNerdLOL