I'm almost jealous of you Canadians, cheap/cool Chinese and Russian guns everywhere, half the price of the same stuff here in the States. Then I remember everything else.
If you stay with boring stuff, it's not bad. We can mail order guns and ammo, restrictions aren't too bad, etc. It's when you get into the fun competition stuff, AR's, AK's, and mag capacities where it gets silly.
@Slowmotionlight California is already way worse than Canada. Saw a video of one guy getting his AR15 rifles confiscated by police because he registered them. Look it up.
Just bought a Type 81 yesterday. Personally, I have no intention of adding any after-market parts. I love the ghetto Communist look of Chinese and Soviet weapons.
@@magooch5 Yeah, I finally got a chance to fire it last week, a lot of fun. I expected a lot more kick with the 7.62x39, especially after firing my Mosin, but it was quite stable, recoil wasn't as much as I expected. Closer to an AR. Honestly, its a gun with a lot of character to it. Really the case for a lot of Communist weaponry. I really wish we could get AKs here. I'll gladly take them semi-auto, 5 round and even restricted if it means being able to legally own one. Communist weaponry has a certain character that I just love.
@@frufru0071 the rifle versions are becoming hard to find, my only regret with my fixed stock is not buying 2.. I hear Tactical Imports will have another shipment soon though..
This is a cross between an AK an SKS and SVD. Has the SVD gas system and bolt carrier that looks like an SKS. It uses AK trigger pack and mags has the AK 2 lug bolt assembly. I think this could be better than an AK. The safety is better than the SVD or AK
I just bought a few Magpul AK-47, 10 rounders (pinned to 5) and with a bit of time dremeling and careful filing the plastic, they fit better than the standard Type81 metal mag. Result! More practical for banging away...5 rounds at a time...or hunting. Yes, I live in Canada. Hence the 5 round limit on semi auto's. Silly eh, I know.
@@paulthompson4367 Hi there my fellow Canadian :) Any chance you could pm me and let me in on the details of how you were able to make the dremeling adjustments, maybe a few pics of where and how much to remove on the ak mags? I have 1 magazine that came with my type 81 and it is wiggly as all hell, thanks eh.
@@ohcliffy Hey Cliff of the Great White North. Those standard Type 81mags are a weapon all on their own, but "beauty eh" they're built tank tough. And yes, like yours my military issued mags are also wobbly. I'll see if I can snitch my girlfriend's phone tomorrow afternoon and send you some pics.
Latest update on the next batch of type 81s as copied and pasted from an email i received Good news - the Type 81s have left China! They should take about 1 month to arrive in Canada, and another few weeks to clear customs and be transported to our warehouse. All I can say is im excited to get mine should be fun and very collectable
Chinese firearms are designed for function and reliability not finish. I owned a type 56 back in the late 80's and it ran flawless for over 20000 rounds for a supposed 6000 round barrel and still no ware in the barrel. Sold it to purchase a HBAR Colt AR and it was not what I was expecting, did not perform half as well as the Type 56, it constantly gummed up. 8 moving parts in a AK type as to 27 in a AR style rifle. The AK is a simple more efficient design.
06:00 But, we CAN have training rifle grenades in Canada. I asked the RCMP and the NRC specifically. Horsies told me rifle grenades aren't firearms so it's none of their business and NRC told me since they dummy rifle-grenades aren't _actually_ grenades that they are kosher. It's no different than snap-caps, they literally fill the same legal putt. Similar too to airsoft grenades. Just recently acquired a T81 and I'm looking forward to blooping.
@Wookie Boy Saw a few at auctions recently (Switzers?) but it's otherwise easy to make yourself. Just find an aluminium pipe with the right ID (7/8th of an inch), put a weight at the front and some fins in the back and you're golden. Obviously, either find blanks or reload your own blanks to do this.
Gun laws in the US and Canada are pretty weird. We can get AKs in the US as long is it isn't a Norinco. We can't get the type 81 or any rifle from China unless it's already here.
Within the first minute, that bend in the stock is actually made for your strong hand to grab, weak hand on the hand guard to thrust the bayonet. This was made in 1947, ww2 was huge on bayonets, the look just kept going and people never questioned the real intent… but by all means it is comfy for the face a bit (more than my underfolder)
The sight radius is actually only an inch and a half shorter than an A2 front sight post carbine length AR-15 and nearly the same as a 14.5" barrel length AK.
lol at how you edited out the nightmare that is trying to replace the dust cover.Great carbine....suffers from a poor system to hold the cover in place.
I look forward to your honest reviews. Nicely done! If you take a close look at that trigger during a typical pull, you'll see the hammer go into a "positive" attitude during the press. It's not creep, it's just the first stage. Mine shows 4 lbs just to go thru the "take up" then breaks about a pound and a half later. This is after approx. 200 rounds. I hope you find a red dot for it Adriel. I think the accuracy potential is quite good.
I have three SKS. (as well as the Type 81SA) so yeah, I love these little Red rifles. Like I said, its just a better built gun. 2 of them exhibit better MOA accuracy than my Type 81SA. So although I've heard of these "phantom" LOL, 1 MOA, SKS rifles before...there is a guy at our range who says he has one....In my own experience, I don't have any first hand knowledge of one shooting that well. That would be the ultimate expression of a survival rifle to me. Good on you.
You don't have the detachable mags in that case. Either way the mags are pinned to 5 rounds, but if you are into guns largely for aesthetics or SHTF scenarios, then the detachable mags are a huge factor. But you definitely cannot go wrong with a good SKS.
I’m so glad, grateful that you’ve made this video. I’m curious to know if $2350 is a fair price for an unfired version? I guess it’s NOT! As nice as it is, I don’t know why the one I’ve found is so pricey. Thanks for sharing this post with us. Another great review!👍🏼👍🏼
If you understood the design you would realize why the receiver is longer. Instead of a dust cover safety like the AK has, the Chinese simply just made the bolt longer to act as a dust cover. Because the bolt is longer, the receiver needs to be longer too.
This rifle is a sign of PLA in my mind even it has been replaced by the type95 and type95-1. I hope I can get my pal before the second batch of type 81 come to Canada lol
My face was in disgust grimace as soon as you zoomed in even the slightest bit. Looks like a todler made it out of bamboo and tin cans. Talk about a rough finish..
right? i was starting to regret grtting the wk180c as my first NR semi seeing the price of this snd the type 91. As I am tight on money these days so it makes all the difference, but when i see the quality close up it looks kinda cheap.
Dani Al how are you enjoying the wk-180c? I was thinking of buying but have heard mixed things. I’m considering between the type 81, the wk180c and the CZ 58. Does the wk180c accept LAR mags?
A nice little cheat I’ve seen guys at my range use to get a longer sight picture is remove the RGL (held on with a snap ring), and move the front sight post to the end of the barrel
@Wookie Boy RGL=rifle grenade launcher (the ribbed sleeve in front of the front sight). Also, upon looking at mine on the weekend, I realized it's held on with a roll pin
Have a question, i just finished cleaning mine, and when you do you trigger pull test.. your bolt doesn't lock.. when i pull mine back it locks everytime with no mag.. did i put to together wrong or something? cause im pretty sure before i cleaned it, the bolt didnt lock with no mag like yours when doing a trigger pull test. thanks.
Type 81 rifle is still produced today.And it still used in Chinese army because the Type 95 and Type 03 rifle are much expensive than Type 81 rifle. Also thanks to the exports and maintenance parts, production is higher than Type 95 rifle.
Oh, it’s a short stroke gas piston system. That’s not typical of AK. Rate of fire would be higher in full auto mode, then how would short burst work? It’s more like a SKS.
Furniture, dust cover, rotating bolt, it's all much closer to an AK than it is an SKS. Gas operating system is different. I've got some pretty detailed pics of all the parts here: www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-reviews/type-81-review/ Lots of weird non-AK stuff, but it's not strictly SKS stuff either.
I for one am sad the safety isn't on the right side. Correct me if someone has done it but it looks like the safety would be in the way of a side rail if you wanted to put a POSP on it.
It turns out, once the dust cover is in place….forward of the metal edge as you showed...if the tang doesn't pop back out, just gently pull the bolt handle all the back and it will.
It's a dead end Frankenstien inbreeding between SKS, AK and SVD. What you get is an SKS pattern carbine on a AK bolt, SVD type bolt carrier/short stroke tap it and manufacturing costs of an SVD, but without the advanced trigger group of the SVD. Incidentally, the increased weight bolt carrier rides on top of the folded guide rails only, since the receiver is lacking actual bolt carrier rails which are usually spot welded above the mag well. The receiver length is obviously set up for chambering to a full power battle cartridge, so the only logical reason for this thing to exist was as an attempt to create a unified receiver platform for a select fire carbine, LMG and DM rifle. But why only four trunion rivets while the supporting ones are miles away from the primary and are at the weakest part of the trunion? That's just nuts! Also how the rigidity of such an elongated receiver is kept without the support of spot welded bolt carrier guide rails is beyond me. Russians extensively experimented with standardized platforms ever since mass produced stamping tech was implemented, but it always ended up in dead end developments. The only time the concept was coming close to a solution was when it was based on a unified 6X49 high pressure UMG cartridge, but it will simply never work on a multi caliber platform. It always ends up overbuilt for intermediate cartridge, and under built for a battle cartridge. Type 81 is a weird, freaky unicorn experimental prototype looking thing that should not exist...
@Kevin Tang yea thanks, i dont kno why i asked i just googled it right after, the guy above said they prefer the type 81 over their current service rifle, i don't kno how he can validate that
longer receiver is for accuracy requirements. One drawback from AK47 was shifting to right side when you shoot auto/fast. That was one big complain from army. It's weird that nobody is talking about reliability on chinese military rifle 81 and type 95(not 97). Reliability was no1 requirement if it's not only thing military cared. Ak or AR won't suvives in Chinese reliability test. Accuracy? Who cares, they got 155mm cannon.
Set to 0 (off) for rifle grenades, set to 1 for normal, set to 2 if it's really really gummed up. It varies how much gas power is getting sent into the system to cycle the bolt.
@Joe I guess you are another one of those American white supermacy racist or a KKK trash who is angry because Chinese gun took away your market share. lol. I know many people who serviced with Type 81 and many Canandian who own both 81 and 58. Everyone knows 81 is superior in terms of accuracy and durability, so save your lie for someone who is completely ignorant. hehehe th-cam.com/video/lq3GchydmL8/w-d-xo.html
@Joe you are the one who is in denial. Bent from the factory. Why nobody else got a bent from the factory, except you. Because you purposefully bent yourself and try to con a refund. The fact you call Chinese "insectoid" shows that you are a racist, that makes your claim even less creditable. lol And no matter how much you lie, people who use Chinese gun knows the truth and we still takes the market share from you Americans. Yet you can't do a damn thing but make up lies. I just love to see Americans who felt helpless. XD You want facts to counter your statement? Yeap, this video itself is the statement. It clearly shows that Chinese Type 81 has a superior accuracy than SKS. I am sure a purposefully bent gun can't shot more accurately than that, lol
You turn the left side knob on the sight all the way forward then pull it out until it pops out then another half turn until it raises the hand guard up, that is the method, you are welcome!
Have you ever considered that the forward rear sight is there to allow far sighted people to use these guns .. Im far sighted at my age and theres nothing quite like fumbling for glasses to read or do anything up close .. perhaps they intended it that way .. im looking so forward to mine showing up .cant wait to get out and shoot it .. of course after a good cleaning
Oh that's an interesting idea. Normally, I focus on the front sight and the rear one is blurry anyways, I'm just kinda centering the front post in the rear blurry bit. Do you get the same?
Its much the same for me the blurry rear sight picture to a clear front sight pin,however when i picked up an SKS for the first time I thought hey I can focus on the rear sight a little better then most of my 22lrs which seem to have the sight much farther to the rear.. I understand the disadvantage of a short sight radius,but simply having that rear sight further forward on both this and an SKS,Both would be firearms I wouldnt entertain putting optics onto, not even bring into account how unreliable optics mounts for this or an SKS can be for maintaining zero
ive had 2 norinco m305s and they both failed on me, so im hesitant to buy another chinese made gun. that being said, it does look pretty sweet. I think the issue with the Chinese guns is consistency; even though this particular one never had a failure on the range, im not convinced that another gun from the same factory would perform as well.
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I'm almost jealous of you Canadians, cheap/cool Chinese and Russian guns everywhere, half the price of the same stuff here in the States.
Then I remember everything else.
If you stay with boring stuff, it's not bad. We can mail order guns and ammo, restrictions aren't too bad, etc. It's when you get into the fun competition stuff, AR's, AK's, and mag capacities where it gets silly.
I will forever be envious of your ak’s
Everything else is the same as you...
If you want to deal with stuff like 5 rd mags, and only take your handguns and ar to range
@Slowmotionlight California is already way worse than Canada. Saw a video of one guy getting his AR15 rifles confiscated by police because he registered them. Look it up.
Just bought a Type 81 yesterday. Personally, I have no intention of adding any after-market parts. I love the ghetto Communist look of Chinese and Soviet weapons.
Me to man. I just got mine in the mail today its frigen sweet
@@magooch5 Yeah, I finally got a chance to fire it last week, a lot of fun. I expected a lot more kick with the 7.62x39, especially after firing my Mosin, but it was quite stable, recoil wasn't as much as I expected. Closer to an AR. Honestly, its a gun with a lot of character to it. Really the case for a lot of Communist weaponry. I really wish we could get AKs here. I'll gladly take them semi-auto, 5 round and even restricted if it means being able to legally own one. Communist weaponry has a certain character that I just love.
@@magooch5 I guess it’s worth it, then. I don’t know why the rifle I’ve seen is listed at over $2000? I’d better shop around!
@@frufru0071 the rifle versions are becoming hard to find, my only regret with my fixed stock is not buying 2.. I hear Tactical Imports will have another shipment soon though..
AK47 love 😍😘❤️ with SKS, SVT-40, and SVD=Type 81 rifle
China:*MAKE TYPE 81*
Soviet Union:why??
China:CuS FuK Yo Bro! *Puts on shade*
This is a cross between an AK an SKS and SVD. Has the SVD gas system and bolt carrier that looks like an SKS. It uses AK trigger pack and mags has the AK 2 lug bolt assembly. I think this could be better than an AK. The safety is better than the SVD or AK
Eggomania86 the mags are proprietary to the Type 81, however with some strategic milling, you can get AK mags to fit
I just bought a few Magpul AK-47, 10 rounders (pinned to 5) and with a bit of time dremeling and careful filing the plastic, they fit better than the standard Type81 metal mag. Result! More practical for banging away...5 rounds at a time...or hunting. Yes, I live in Canada. Hence the 5 round limit on semi auto's. Silly eh, I know.
@@paulthompson4367 Hi there my fellow Canadian :) Any chance you could pm me and let me in on the details of how you were able to make the dremeling adjustments, maybe a few pics of where and how much to remove on the ak mags? I have 1 magazine that came with my type 81 and it is wiggly as all hell, thanks eh.
@@ohcliffy Hey Cliff of the Great White North. Those standard Type 81mags are a weapon all on their own, but "beauty eh" they're built tank tough. And yes, like yours my military issued mags are also wobbly. I'll see if I can snitch my girlfriend's phone tomorrow afternoon and send you some pics.
The perfect blend of Simonov and Kalashnikov.
I agree and your name is an heresy for the japanese ennemy,proud of you comrad
This is EXACTLY what M&M should have done with the M10X. It would have fixed all its design flaws.
Mine just came in, looks and feels amazing, can’t wait to shoot it!
Finally pre-ordered one, but have to wait for another 3 or 4 months to close the deal.
How the bolt release works ?
It’s like a AK47, the SKS carbine, the SVT-40, and the SVD had a love child and this was the result pretty awesome. :)
So basically this gun is like an AK and SKS mixed together right ?
Wilhelm VonRoefelz fun facts: In China and other communist countries, people are stripped away their gun rights.
Type63
WalkMan wang Pretty sure the translation shouldn't be 'type 56 half'.
WalkMan wang Do u really know what r u talking about?
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 In the former Yugoslavia (SFRJ) which was a Communist country, people were allowed to own firearms. Even machine guns.
I love your videos! Any "pistol" mags or others that will fit this rifle to make it less..... #canadiangunlawridiculous ?
Unfortunately, not yet :(
Ohhhh Canada. :-/ Well, Thank you!
emrservice
AK-47 Mags can be modded to fit.
But I suspect that if you modify an AK Pistol mag to fit, then that wouldn’t be kosher.
Latest update on the next batch of type 81s as copied and pasted from an email i received
Good news - the Type 81s have left China! They should take about 1 month to arrive in Canada, and another few weeks to clear customs and be transported to our warehouse.
All I can say is im excited to get mine should be fun and very collectable
i was going to buy one, kinda looks cheaply made compared to the vz. maybe ill just save for an ar
If you have the money to buy this, you already have enough to buy an AR.
@@sincsys most ive seen are around 2000 for a decent one anyway
Well ya it's stamped metal vs solid milled receiver
These are awesome, fitting AK mags is very easy, Canada needed a communist weapon like this😄
inb4 hunting deer with rifle grenades
This is the inspiration for the chinese rifle in fallout
I think the inspiration is just AK.
The chinese rifle in fallout uses RPD-esque furniture, so it's definitely a mix
Chinese firearms are designed for function and reliability not finish. I owned a type 56 back in the late 80's and it ran flawless for over 20000 rounds for a supposed 6000 round barrel and still no ware in the barrel. Sold it to purchase a HBAR Colt AR and it was not what I was expecting, did not perform half as well as the Type 56, it constantly gummed up. 8 moving parts in a AK type as to 27 in a AR style rifle. The AK is a simple more efficient design.
06:00
But, we CAN have training rifle grenades in Canada.
I asked the RCMP and the NRC specifically.
Horsies told me rifle grenades aren't firearms so it's none of their business and NRC told me since they dummy rifle-grenades aren't _actually_ grenades that they are kosher. It's no different than snap-caps, they literally fill the same legal putt. Similar too to airsoft grenades.
Just recently acquired a T81 and I'm looking forward to blooping.
Cool. There's actually a Canadian guy on TH-cam who's making DIY Type 81 practice grenades and was going to play a version of lawn darts with them.
@Wookie Boy
Saw a few at auctions recently (Switzers?) but it's otherwise easy to make yourself. Just find an aluminium pipe with the right ID (7/8th of an inch), put a weight at the front and some fins in the back and you're golden. Obviously, either find blanks or reload your own blanks to do this.
Gun laws in the US and Canada are pretty weird. We can get AKs in the US as long is it isn't a Norinco. We can't get the type 81 or any rifle from China unless it's already here.
reyol Only type 56 Chinese SKS they can get in US
Please do a folder review if you could!
Are these new production rifles or are they old stock from the 80's?
New
Within the first minute, that bend in the stock is actually made for your strong hand to grab, weak hand on the hand guard to thrust the bayonet. This was made in 1947, ww2 was huge on bayonets, the look just kept going and people never questioned the real intent… but by all means it is comfy for the face a bit (more than my underfolder)
The sight radius is actually only an inch and a half shorter than an A2 front sight post carbine length AR-15 and nearly the same as a 14.5" barrel length AK.
lol at how you edited out the nightmare that is trying to replace the dust cover.Great carbine....suffers from a poor system to hold the cover in place.
I want one so baaad.
What about accuracy? Info totally incomplete.
If magpul AK furniture would fit on this rifle then it would definitely have my interest.
I look forward to your honest reviews. Nicely done!
If you take a close look at that trigger during a typical pull, you'll see the hammer go into a "positive" attitude during the press. It's not creep, it's just the first stage. Mine shows 4 lbs just to go thru the "take up" then breaks about a pound and a half later. This is after approx. 200 rounds.
I hope you find a red dot for it Adriel. I think the accuracy potential is quite good.
Do you think the type 81 is worth the price over an sks?
Not even comparable , I actually prefer my T81 over the VZ58
If its what you want. Build quality is significantly higher on an SKS though
I have both...and completely agree. The SKS is better built.
@@paulthompson4367 And I've owned several MOA and Sub-MOA SKS rifles
I have three SKS. (as well as the Type 81SA) so yeah, I love these little Red rifles. Like I said, its just a better built gun. 2 of them exhibit better MOA accuracy than my Type 81SA. So although I've heard of these "phantom" LOL, 1 MOA, SKS rifles before...there is a guy at our range who says he has one....In my own experience, I don't have any first hand knowledge of one shooting that well. That would be the ultimate expression of a survival rifle to me. Good on you.
Beautiful gun but I could buy 3 russian sks's and some ammo for the same price
You don't have the detachable mags in that case.
Either way the mags are pinned to 5 rounds, but if you are into guns largely for aesthetics or SHTF scenarios, then the detachable mags are a huge factor.
But you definitely cannot go wrong with a good SKS.
Always had my eye on this rifle, would you say it’s worth purchasing ? I like the set up of it
I’m so glad, grateful that you’ve made this video. I’m curious to know if $2350 is a fair price for an unfired version? I guess it’s NOT! As nice as it is, I don’t know why the one I’ve found is so pricey. Thanks for sharing this post with us. Another great review!👍🏼👍🏼
They’re all that much now. Since the ban prices of any nr semis have gone up
Same problem as the SKS, too much-wasted receiver space between the trigger and magazine.
If you understood the design you would realize why the receiver is longer. Instead of a dust cover safety like the AK has, the Chinese simply just made the bolt longer to act as a dust cover. Because the bolt is longer, the receiver needs to be longer too.
I feel this gun is more like svd than ak
This rifle is a sign of PLA in my mind even it has been replaced by the type95 and type95-1. I hope I can get my pal before the second batch of type 81 come to Canada lol
My face was in disgust grimace as soon as you zoomed in even the slightest bit. Looks like a todler made it out of bamboo and tin cans. Talk about a rough finish..
That's why you get them gold planted lol
Was thinking of getting this but looks Sooo cheap
right? i was starting to regret grtting the wk180c as my first NR semi seeing the price of this snd the type 91. As I am tight on money these days so it makes all the difference, but when i see the quality close up it looks kinda cheap.
Dani Al how are you enjoying the wk-180c? I was thinking of buying but have heard mixed things. I’m considering between the type 81, the wk180c and the CZ 58. Does the wk180c accept LAR mags?
A nice little cheat I’ve seen guys at my range use to get a longer sight picture is remove the RGL (held on with a snap ring), and move the front sight post to the end of the barrel
@Wookie Boy RGL=rifle grenade launcher (the ribbed sleeve in front of the front sight). Also, upon looking at mine on the weekend, I realized it's held on with a roll pin
SK-47...... Don't mix yourself!
It's fully semi-automatic.
The AK and SKS had a love child
Another Canadian AK47 rifle.
This looks a lot like the AK 46, Kalashnikov's original design.
You're right!
Finally you review the Type 81 rifle! :)
Safety is too worst
Are you in Canada？
You bet!
Have a question, i just finished cleaning mine, and when you do you trigger pull test.. your bolt doesn't lock.. when i pull mine back it locks everytime with no mag.. did i put to together wrong or something? cause im pretty sure before i cleaned it, the bolt didnt lock with no mag like yours when doing a trigger pull test. thanks.
Type 81 rifle is still produced today.And it still used in Chinese army because the Type 95 and Type 03 rifle are much expensive than Type 81 rifle. Also thanks to the exports and maintenance parts, production is higher than Type 95 rifle.
Type 81 is used by Reservists its not the service rifle for the professional front line army.
Lutting dude But it still using it because the Type 95 and Type 03 rifle is expensive.
Well reservists always get second hand equipment, it pretty much the standard.
@@이동연-c6d they are no longer being produced, but yes, you are right on some parts. 81is still in use in some of the divisions
@@jaegwanpark2473 Yes it is. They still produce this rifle for export.
Shame we can't get Chinese rifles in the US, this one looks pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I'd be really curious to see how it'd do next to an AK. Too bad we can't get real AK's in Canada other than the (very expensive) Valmets :(
Expensive is right, there's one chambered in 5.56 at my local gunshop...12 grand. I figured they would be pricey, but not that steep.
I think Valmets where banned from imports at one point or another. They are expensive over here too.
Never been jealous of canada till now you get cool norinco stuff we have very boring ar15...
aaaaand the vz58 got banned.
This is a disaster!!!!
04:15 yes your correct. Military type 81 rifles have a 2 at the upward position to denote automatic mode.
First!
is that a true AK mag? looks like it.
They lock open on the last shot, so they're not true AK mags. You can mod AK mags to work in this gun.
Hello sir
how did you removed the tripod stand and the handle ?
If you want to a review on my cz858 and a czh2003 I have both. Your more than welcome to borrow them.
Is that sight set for meters or yards? Restricted or unrestricted, I didn't hear you say?
Beautiful rifle.Too bad it cost over $1k.
I would love to put a russian optics rail on the side to put my 1p29 scope , definitely buying one
A "little" creep.
Excellent video! Well explained. Would like to see you using a stripper clip though.
Have had mine for a while. love it!
Jacob Snowe does it jam at all? Thinking of getting one
I never thought I'd say this, but this rifle is better balanced than it's Czech counter part.
Oh, it’s a short stroke gas piston system. That’s not typical of AK. Rate of fire would be higher in full auto mode, then how would short burst work? It’s more like a SKS.
Furniture, dust cover, rotating bolt, it's all much closer to an AK than it is an SKS. Gas operating system is different. I've got some pretty detailed pics of all the parts here: www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-reviews/type-81-review/ Lots of weird non-AK stuff, but it's not strictly SKS stuff either.
My VZ 58 is about 4 to 4.5 lb trigger pul and my chinese military sks a smooth 5 lbs.
reminds me of an SKS with AK cosmetics...
love it, seems a little pricey at around $999.00 can
Wanna buy one. I'm just scared that the RCMP will put them on the prohib list...
Hey, look on the bright side: then you'll get a prohib license.
100% would run this in 3 gun
When you're used to metric and think 6.5 lbs is 6lbs and 5oz
I swapped all my scales to decimals since so I don't have to deal with cursed ounces.
This is way simpler to take apart compared to the SKS
does the launcher cover still allow you to use a bayonet?
How the bolt release works ?
If they dropped the price they could sell a hell of a lot more,. This gun is worth 600 at best
going for 2-3 k right now used lol
耐用可靠度超過所有歐美複雜結構的新款步槍!😮😅😊
The action on the Type 81 is really long though. VZ58 is a lot more compact. Too bad we can't own those in Canada anymore.
I for one am sad the safety isn't on the right side. Correct me if someone has done it but it looks like the safety would be in the way of a side rail if you wanted to put a POSP on it.
The safety on the SR version is on the right, so it doesn't interfere with the scope mount
Great video this just sold me on that gun. Thx
I believe the dent on the stock is for melee combat
Not an ak it’s a ray kay
Grea video....although I see you used 3 edits to get the dust cover back on....I could use some of that magic right now, lol...
It turns out, once the dust cover is in place….forward of the metal edge as you showed...if the tang doesn't pop back out, just gently pull the bolt handle all the back and it will.
Thanks for going through the breakdown info - I’m looking forward to taking mine out to the range as soon as it warms up. Great video.
i keep the safety half way and it still works
It's a dead end Frankenstien inbreeding between SKS, AK and SVD.
What you get is an SKS pattern carbine on a AK bolt, SVD type bolt carrier/short stroke tap it and manufacturing costs of an SVD, but without the advanced trigger group of the SVD.
Incidentally, the increased weight bolt carrier rides on top of the folded guide rails only, since the receiver is lacking actual bolt carrier rails which are usually spot welded above the mag well.
The receiver length is obviously set up for chambering to a full power battle cartridge, so the only logical reason for this thing to exist was as an attempt to create a unified receiver platform for a select fire carbine, LMG and DM rifle.
But why only four trunion rivets while the supporting ones are miles away from the primary and are at the weakest part of the trunion? That's just nuts! Also how the rigidity of such an elongated receiver is kept without the support of spot welded bolt carrier guide rails is beyond me.
Russians extensively experimented with standardized platforms ever since mass produced stamping tech was implemented, but it always ended up in dead end developments. The only time the concept was coming close to a solution was when it was based on a unified 6X49 high pressure UMG cartridge, but it will simply never work on a multi caliber platform. It always ends up overbuilt for intermediate cartridge, and under built for a battle cartridge.
Type 81 is a weird, freaky unicorn experimental prototype looking thing that should not exist...
Fuck u soung like u know what ur taking about , now i aint buying . Lol
What does the pla use now?
@Kevin Tang yea thanks, i dont kno why i asked i just googled it right after, the guy above said they prefer the type 81 over their current service rifle, i don't kno how he can validate that
longer receiver is for accuracy requirements. One drawback from AK47 was shifting to right side when you shoot auto/fast. That was one big complain from army. It's weird that nobody is talking about reliability on chinese military rifle 81 and type 95(not 97). Reliability was no1 requirement if it's not only thing military cared. Ak or AR won't suvives in Chinese reliability test. Accuracy? Who cares, they got 155mm cannon.
@@outman6207 What is your source for Type 81/95 being more reliable then AKM?
I wouldn't mount an optic on the stamped steel dust cover. It's not really all that stable. Generally AKs have sights mounted up by the rear sight.
Oh I wouldn't either, but a solution that takes that space on the receiver would be interesting.
Good review
What’s about the accuracy？
I got 2-4 MOA out of this one. Would need to mount a scope to tell for sure.
Russian or Chinese AK variant in Canada?
AK variants are prohibited. Type 81's and VZ 58's are the closest we get.
Nice review. Thanks
Can someone please explain to me the concept of the gas selector thingy? Never heard of that before. Thanks.
Set to 0 (off) for rifle grenades, set to 1 for normal, set to 2 if it's really really gummed up. It varies how much gas power is getting sent into the system to cycle the bolt.
Oh. Got it, thanks.
will be on the Liberal BAN list.
How much is this I'd like one for hunting
Bailey Sansone 999
And finally, VZ 58 have an enemy. An enemy is from the China and it's called the Type 81 rifle.
lol, VZ58 doesn't stand a chance.
@Joe I guess you are another one of those American white supermacy racist or a KKK trash who is angry because Chinese gun took away your market share. lol. I know many people who serviced with Type 81 and many Canandian who own both 81 and 58. Everyone knows 81 is superior in terms of accuracy and durability, so save your lie for someone who is completely ignorant. hehehe
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@Joe you are the one who is in denial. Bent from the factory. Why nobody else got a bent from the factory, except you. Because you purposefully bent yourself and try to con a refund. The fact you call Chinese "insectoid" shows that you are a racist, that makes your claim even less creditable. lol
And no matter how much you lie, people who use Chinese gun knows the truth and we still takes the market share from you Americans. Yet you can't do a damn thing but make up lies. I just love to see Americans who felt helpless. XD
You want facts to counter your statement? Yeap, this video itself is the statement. It clearly shows that Chinese Type 81 has a superior accuracy than SKS. I am sure a purposefully bent gun can't shot more accurately than that, lol
@Joe That is only a picture. Answer me this, why you are the only one got a bent gun? Clearly you bent yourself to con a refund as failed.
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Been playing with mine for an hour still can't get the upper handguard off
I wiggled mine for a while before it came off.
You turn the left side knob on the sight all the way forward then pull it out until it pops out then another half turn until it raises the hand guard up, that is the method, you are welcome!
Have you ever considered that the forward rear sight is there to allow far sighted people to use these guns .. Im far sighted at my age and theres nothing quite like fumbling for glasses to read or do anything up close .. perhaps they intended it that way .. im looking so forward to mine showing up .cant wait to get out and shoot it .. of course after a good cleaning
Oh that's an interesting idea. Normally, I focus on the front sight and the rear one is blurry anyways, I'm just kinda centering the front post in the rear blurry bit. Do you get the same?
Its much the same for me the blurry rear sight picture to a clear front sight pin,however when i picked up an SKS for the first time I thought hey I can focus on the rear sight a little better then most of my 22lrs which seem to have the sight much farther to the rear.. I understand the disadvantage of a short sight radius,but simply having that rear sight further forward on both this and an SKS,Both would be firearms I wouldnt entertain putting optics onto, not even bring into account how unreliable optics mounts for this or an SKS can be for maintaining zero
Beautiful rifle.
ive had 2 norinco m305s and they both failed on me, so im hesitant to buy another chinese made gun. that being said, it does look pretty sweet. I think the issue with the Chinese guns is consistency; even though this particular one never had a failure on the range, im not convinced that another gun from the same factory would perform as well.
Well, unlike those civilian export models, the type 81 is a military rifle used in PLA, and even used in real combat during 80s. It should be fine.
You are so unlucky. I have two M305, both of them very reliable, not a single hiccup.
Why don't you leave it as it is because it's rare and collectable
We're having newly made ones produced in China and imported into Canada now.
The Hunting Gear Guy I'm jealous :/
Do you think that if you shot it left-handed, you would get hit in the face/arms with brass?
I can try that in a couple weeks
Ok, thanks! I appreciate that a lot.
Homiside Doodz
I shoot it left handed; not a problem.
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Ejects brass forwards
5 oz is not a half pound....Just saying
My unAmerican-ness is showing.
@@Huntinggearguy lol. I'm from Edmonton Alberta. Sorry I was just being an ass. I'm a Big fan, keep up the good work.
I cancelled my order due to the endless waiting time. Finally decided to buy a bcl102
12 Ga Shotty u r spending 1700 for a different rifle when this 81 cost 1000 why does the BCL 102 do something better for your tasks
I like 308 little bit more