Dude isn't getting traded. He has the surgery he wants right before training camp, sits out the year, Buffalo gets next to nothing for him next off season. Not that I think Buffalo wants to do this, but their history of incompetence will prove this out.
@@joshuaalbright1175 lol he might be able to play at that point, but he will never be the same player. Takes roughly a year before you're good again sometimes It doesn't work . I've had the surgery .
The market currently isn't where Buffalo management wants it to be in this trade. At this point would it make more sense for them to just risk it, let Eichel get the surgery, and be like "you'll have to play here for a couple months." I'm sure Jack playing in Buffalo isn't an option either side wants right now, but it may be the only way to show the rest of the league they'll still be getting the same player Jack Eichel has been. It's a risk, but it may be the only way for Buffalo to get his value anywhere close to what they want to see.
I kind of disagree with the statement that - "we trade you a bunch of guys but you get the superstar and the star is the guy you miss." 'cause as a Sens fan I was miserable and pissed off at the time when we traded Karlsson for a pick and a bunch of small fries.. that trade doesn't look nearly so bad now.
Karl’sson was always atrocious defensively though. Methot made up for it. He was never going to be who he was in Ottawa. The vast majority of trades involving superstars has the team that got them winning
@@ozzydo2314 that's revisionist bullshit. Methot definitely helped cover Karlsson's mistakes, but he was never atrocious on defense. Most of the time he was their best defender.
He’ll void his contract lmao. If they don’t trade him before next season there are multiple situations in which they garner absolutely nothing for him. The Sabres shot themselves in the foot with their laughable asking price
The Wild with their upcoming dead cap hits were never in the Eichel trade to begin with (only if Buffalo retained 1/3 or more which would never happen without a extra sweetener). Eichel with be sent out West but Eichel needs to report to training camp. It’s not about winning a trade with the Eichel situation it is about Buffalo wanting assets that fit into the current plan (prospects & draft picks). The team is not on fire they finished just below .500 hockey after their losing streak was snapped with their 5th & 6th string goalies playing. Granato had the younger players playing better & as a team. Take the NYR who said no to their top 6 prospects being included but offered Strome & a few draft picks? Rightfully so the Sabres passed on that & if you were going to take a reduced offer for Eichel then you send him out west.
one of the thing i wonder and that i dont hear anyone really talking about is the free agents. It's probably already super hard for buffalo to get people to sign with them. Do you feel like this situation is just gonna make it even worst when players see that?
I think the players talk a lot. There have been comments from players that put the blame here on Jacks handling on the situation. Look up jean sebastian-dea and his comments. Look up jay McKees comments. Players are not stupid and understand that jack is playing games he can't win. The CBA is the CBA and there are business decisions at play here.
I find.it funny the same people that are complaining about no eichel trade are the same people that will try and rip the sabres back on the return for Eichel .
I've always been of the belief that bulk packages rather than a few massive assets are better for both teams, so I'm glad the buyers are being stingy. Yes, Jack Eichel has Hall of Fame potential, but if getting him makes your team less deep, then how much did you really benefit from it? For example, if I'm Vegas, I'd be doing everything to create a future Eichel-Krebs one two instead of trading Krebs.
I love how Steve takes a shot at all Oilers fans like we are all inherently rude or harmful to other fan bases. Pretty low blow for a guy that I typically have always enjoyed.
Maybe comments like the one that was made towards Adam would be kept quiet if there wasn’t such a harsh and vitriol and diatribes directed at the Oilers, especially ever since they won the 2015 draft lottery. Like that’s totally our fault.
For what it’s worth I’ve had numerous Toronto Maple Leafs fans make fun of me for having grade 4 brain cancer that has left me blind. At least you guys haven’t made fun of the fact that my mother suddenly passed away on April 9 of this year. But I don’t expect it to be very long before some crass comment is made about that tragedy.
Yeah the “both” comment made me giggle as a Wild fan. If Buffalo thinks they are getting our two best players they are crazy. Lol The most I can see any team giving up is 2 first round caliber assets and one roster player of differing skill level. No more.
Here's a question I've been wondering about for a while. What happens if Eichel just goes ahead on his own and gets the surgery he wants? Can the Sabres even stop that from happening?
He can absolutely do that that’s what people don’t understand. They think sabers are holding him in a jail cell somewhere. If he has the surgery he breaks his agreement with the Sabres and likely completely voids his $10 million contract. Money talks. It’s his choice in real life
@@hockeyb4886 ok. That's what I was wondering. But wouldn't that then just make him an unrestricted free agent? Then he could just go sign with another team, I would assume.
I’m not 100% sure to be honest with you but I think something like that. Which is what makes this situation so dumb to me on the Sabres part. Their leverage is slipping so fast
I really think the reason why he wouldn’t want to do that is because if I’m Jack Eichel I wouldn’t be close to 100% sure that I’m getting another $10,000,000+ deal once this whole thing is over. He doesn’t really even know for a *fact* that he will be OK to play again. So I wouldn’t take that gamble if I were him and if I were to guess I would say that’s why he doesn’t just tell the Sabres to shove it. But idk
@@hockeyb4886 Yeah. He's locked up at 10mil per for the next 5 years. Even if he really wants that surgery, is it worth walking away from that kind of guaranteed money? He also gets a $10 million signing bonus after this next season. So if Jack waits it out this year in Buffalo he'll get $20 million to maybe not play hockey, and then his no-trade clause kicks in so he gets a say where he gets traded. Would be really dumb for him to go beyond the team and get it done right now.
@@bitternarwhal5126 Eichel won't sit, he wants to play very badly if you haven't noticed. His contract is up in 5 years and most, if not all, of his prime will be wasted or it won't be depending on if he wants to be a leader and Captain at some point in his career here. Jack is bent over a barrel here, he can play and make the team better and stay, he can wait for 5 years or he can help is get the return we want. That's the only choices he has at this point
@@SabresGuy87 the sabres have no sights of being good for the next 20 years, let alone be good in the next 5, his prime will be wasted either way just like every other high potential player they ever had
@@SabresGuy87 don't have to be to see a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in a decade, hasn't one a series since 05 and has been a top 5 draft pick consistently will be trash for a long time lol
If the Sabres don't back down on their crazy expectations, Eichel will neuter whichever team he joins, can't make the playoffs if you gave away the farm to get him. Career golfer it looks like.
He is a good risk to take for a team looking to rebuild or a team who’s window is just about shut and can give away picks/prospects. In both of those situations they need to retain some of the contract.
I think the Sabres would make him void his contract before he actually went under the knife if he decides to go ahead and have the surgery he wants, and he doesn’t want to let go of his 10.5M contract lol. He’s not physically being restrained from having the surgery. It’s just money. He probably isn’t sure he can secure another 10M+ deal if he cancels his contract if I had to guess. I could be totally wrong with how this works but that’s how I understand this
That’s close to 4 first rounders… 3 firsts and a second… plus we put Jack on LTIR for most of this year… we are good for salary cap with work to do next summer… sandin has to step up and fill in for Morgan
Gm Adams is up against it.It’s a no win situation.No team is going to trade prized assets for damaged goods.Plus at 10 mil per season,not a lot of teams have the cap space to make this trade work.A third party team may be needed.
Wouldn't Buffalo be better off bowing to Eichel? Give him the surgery he asks for... (If not done already) and asks what would make him like to stay? They cannot win any other way.. even if it is too late, try to walk it back. That seems like a more doable recourse than trading. I mean is everyone 100% positive it cannot be walked back?
The fundamental issue is that the Sabres ALWAYS wanted way too much for Jack Eichel and it’s hitting a breaking point. They could’ve traded him a long long time ago for a great return but they’ve overplayed their hand and this is what happens
Not my fault they paid him 10 million and can’t build a team around him. At the end of the day it is one player and no team in the league wants to give up five good players to get one good player. If they did he would’ve been traded already. The Sabres asking price for Jack Eichel is a complete and utter joke and everybody knows it that’s why he’s not getting traded
Eichel will go to Vegas . They have the cap space now with Alex Tuck not being not able to play for at least 5 month's . Also Reeves now gone to N Y . Vegas will offer Buffalo 2 starting players and a pick soon . Watch .
What makes it even uglier is that eichel wont have the surgery the sabres want him to so he wont even pass his physical come camp. So how do the sabres expect his value to improve?
this is a "rip the band aid off" type of situation at this point. Just get this over with cause its dragging out now. He's def missed out of some good deals that were offered. Im a rangers fan and i think the initial package offered was a really fair one which included strome. I would have loved to see him in NYR but it is what it is. I am a Eichel fan as well and i honestly feel bad for the guy. Granted he had a healthy contract in buffalo but he spent a good amount of his prime in a organization that has made so many bad decisions. He did his part and i think the right thing to do would be to get his deal done. I know vegas had a good package on the table and Minnesota had a nice offer but the fact that want more is just crazy. They are basically asking for a return on a player with a unpredictable future and uncertain health conditions. They need to flex a little based on those facts alone. So curious to see where this goes though!!
I want the Rangers to stay clear of this entire mess. Obviously they want much more than Strome. You eventually reach the point where there are suddenly holes in the lines that were starting to come together last year. Eichel can only play one shift at a time. I like the moves the Rangers have made to add "grit".
Just a thought, tho: if Eichel wants out so badly, could he just threaten to not show up at training camp if he's not traded? I mean, I put myself in his place, I'd give it some thought, be it just to put pressure and accelerate things.. And yeah I get that it would give him a bad rep in the face of GMs elsewhere, but given the situation it'd be almost understandable...
He is under a thing called contract. The Sabres owns his rights including the rehab plan. If he doesn't show up at training Camp, other GM's will notice. It will make a trade even harder. If he wants out, he should take a big cup of STFU and grind through it.
Kevin Adams is doing great considering the hand he was dealt, and he can def win this trade but it will come down to how much of the salary we have to retain...
Anyone notice that Adam positions his camera like a short guy? Jesse, the actual tall guy, has no problems being centered while Adam tries to look big in his frame to add more weight to his opinions.
@@FC-tq1yj Jesse has contributed to the Hockey convo for years, you’re literally showing your prejudice by assuming he’s only on the show because he’s black. Check your racism bud, although you probably won’t since you’re more afraid of being “woke” than actually being understanding
@HockeyGD well they still don't really have a goalie... and if they're just going to give him away... why not Edm... we can put his cap hit on ltir and with any luck have both him and Oscar miraculously be ready for game 1 of the playoffs... Edmonton could be the Cdn version of the Lightning... lol
@bret4880 bret4880 yes/no ... but if they're going to give him away and since they still need a goalie... could be win win... in reality... Kosk would be a great goalie for a defensive team and Buff doesn't have exp to be an offense team
And for that they will suffer. He’s never gonna play a game for Buffalo and the more he sits and the more the sabres deny him the medical treatment he needs the less valuable he becomes. You’ll be paying him 10 million a year to sit in the press box and get zero assets.
Actually if i remember correctly Eichels NMC kicks in this upcoming season, so your best chance of getting the most assets i would assume is before then
@@OB197 his NMC means nothing cause you still don't have to trade him unless you get what you want from a team. If Eichel really wants out, he won't say no to any trade outta here. NMC is useless to him
@@SabresGuy87 a NMC isn’t really useless because he could say “No I will only accept a trade to blank team”, he could easily not get the surgery he wants or Buffalo wants and just stay out hurt till his NMC and he pick where he goes, then Buffalo surely will get less assets then they could now. It happened with Rick Nash in CBJ if I remember correctly, only difference is slight less term and no injury concerns and CBJ still got a weaker return for waiting it out
Trade Marner and a third line or fourth line center and maybe a first round pick. Then move Tavares down to the third line and put Eichel as the second line center. We need to trade the piglet Marner!
So you want to pay a guy 11 million a year to play on your 3rd line? The only way the leafs should be in on Eichel is if they can trade Tavares and some change for him. You don't trade a a winger that was top five in scoring for another C when you already have two top line C.
The pegula family is now wanting a brand new bills stadium funded by the taxpayers 100 percent. Pie in the sky ask as they promote jack eichel to be something that he has not achieved yet. He is way overrated and they paid way too much just like skinner. Bad deal after bad deal. They will end up driving Jack's value down and be forced to take less a lot less. Who wants to pay a player 10 million to sit in the press box ? Kim pegula.
Yeah, that will give the Leafs roster balance and flexibility. Right, we complain that Marner is making $10M+ and we want to replace him with another $10M+ player with a possible career altering or ending injury. The proper way to trade Marner is to receive assets (plural) in return, not another $10M player. Marner is an overpaid, underachieving player and his salary is killing this team's cap. Eichel does NOT solve that problem.
@@TheGiua1973 you’re right, if Toronto trades Marner they have to receive multiple assets in return. Maybe a solid defenseman and a winger + picks or something like that
Go Sabres January 2022 Jack eichel to Toronto auston Matthews or Jack eichel Edmonton for Connor McDavid because players probably want out of their situation because they want to win a championship this is coming from a Buffalo Sabres fan
@@hdgyhdgirf8160 If he had surgery, this would all be over. I dislike primadonna millionaires, but Jack is actually justified this time. This could affect him long term.
"Phil Kessel is a bust of a player that couldn't do what he needed to do to make Toronto a better team, he's a complete failure as far as I'm concerned" Eichel is fantastic, but it's a team sport. Even McDavid has more help than Eichel ever got in Buffalo
Dude isn't getting traded. He has the surgery he wants right before training camp, sits out the year, Buffalo gets next to nothing for him next off season. Not that I think Buffalo wants to do this, but their history of incompetence will prove this out.
The surgery is 11 week recovery
@@joshuaalbright1175 lol he might be able to play at that point, but he will never be the same player. Takes roughly a year before you're good again sometimes It doesn't work . I've had the surgery .
The market currently isn't where Buffalo management wants it to be in this trade. At this point would it make more sense for them to just risk it, let Eichel get the surgery, and be like "you'll have to play here for a couple months." I'm sure Jack playing in Buffalo isn't an option either side wants right now, but it may be the only way to show the rest of the league they'll still be getting the same player Jack Eichel has been. It's a risk, but it may be the only way for Buffalo to get his value anywhere close to what they want to see.
I kind of disagree with the statement that - "we trade you a bunch of guys but you get the superstar and the star is the guy you miss." 'cause as a Sens fan I was miserable and pissed off at the time when we traded Karlsson for a pick and a bunch of small fries.. that trade doesn't look nearly so bad now.
Yep. Also look at the Lindros trade. That turned out pretty good for the guys who got rid of the "superstar"
Karl’sson was always atrocious defensively though. Methot made up for it. He was never going to be who he was in Ottawa. The vast majority of trades involving superstars has the team that got them winning
@@ozzydo2314 that's revisionist bullshit. Methot definitely helped cover Karlsson's mistakes, but he was never atrocious on defense. Most of the time he was their best defender.
Colorado & Duchene. Talking heads just talking.
Ya, but I don't think there was EVER a greater meteoric fall in production of a superstar after a trade that with that one
The answer is NO ONE is going to step up and pay there asking price of 4 first round pieces.
Then he doesn't get traded ☺️
@@ktowniecity7269 we get Eichel for 5 more years
He’ll void his contract lmao. If they don’t trade him before next season there are multiple situations in which they garner absolutely nothing for him. The Sabres shot themselves in the foot with their laughable asking price
The Wild with their upcoming dead cap hits were never in the Eichel trade to begin with (only if Buffalo retained 1/3 or more which would never happen without a extra sweetener).
Eichel with be sent out West but Eichel needs to report to training camp.
It’s not about winning a trade with the Eichel situation it is about Buffalo wanting assets that fit into the current plan (prospects & draft picks). The team is not on fire they finished just below .500 hockey after their losing streak was snapped with their 5th & 6th string goalies playing. Granato had the younger players playing better & as a team. Take the NYR who said no to their top 6 prospects being included but offered Strome & a few draft picks? Rightfully so the Sabres passed on that & if you were going to take a reduced offer for Eichel then you send him out west.
one of the thing i wonder and that i dont hear anyone really talking about is the free agents. It's probably already super hard for buffalo to get people to sign with them. Do you feel like this situation is just gonna make it even worst when players see that?
I think the players talk a lot. There have been comments from players that put the blame here on Jacks handling on the situation. Look up jean sebastian-dea and his comments. Look up jay McKees comments. Players are not stupid and understand that jack is playing games he can't win. The CBA is the CBA and there are business decisions at play here.
I find.it funny the same people that are complaining about no eichel trade are the same people that will try and rip the sabres back on the return for Eichel .
I've always been of the belief that bulk packages rather than a few massive assets are better for both teams, so I'm glad the buyers are being stingy. Yes, Jack Eichel has Hall of Fame potential, but if getting him makes your team less deep, then how much did you really benefit from it? For example, if I'm Vegas, I'd be doing everything to create a future Eichel-Krebs one two instead of trading Krebs.
Buffalo’s rebuilding... Vegas doesn’t have really anything Buffalo would want especially if krebs is off the table
@@ktowniecity7269 VGK’s 1st rounders are gonna be late picks... if Buffalo wanted 1st rounders they can just get them from someone else
At what point does this become a hostage crisis?
You really don't undestand what is an hostage.
@@timclark3914 You really don’t understand what is an joke.
@@timclark3914 you really don’t understand what is an grammar
When the kid doesn't make millions of dollars and cry about it.
I love how Steve takes a shot at all Oilers fans like we are all inherently rude or harmful to other fan bases. Pretty low blow for a guy that I typically have always enjoyed.
Maybe comments like the one that was made towards Adam would be kept quiet if there wasn’t such a harsh and vitriol and diatribes directed at the Oilers, especially ever since they won the 2015 draft lottery. Like that’s totally our fault.
For what it’s worth I’ve had numerous Toronto Maple Leafs fans make fun of me for having grade 4 brain cancer that has left me blind. At least you guys haven’t made fun of the fact that my mother suddenly passed away on April 9 of this year. But I don’t expect it to be very long before some crass comment is made about that tragedy.
He being traded to toronto and dubas reworking his contract to a team friendly hometown discount of 8 years 11 million per year!!! Book it!!!
Doubt it. Many Americans don’t generally want to play in Canada.
But I bet he will get close to 11
@@dankelly7712 r/whoosh
You're incompetant as ususal
He's being traded out of div
Eichel is making demands and hearing NO. That probably hasn't happened to him very often.
Yeah the “both” comment made me giggle as a Wild fan. If Buffalo thinks they are getting our two best players they are crazy. Lol
The most I can see any team giving up is 2 first round caliber assets and one roster player of differing skill level. No more.
If only the trade offers were public info, then we would probably see how atrocious the packages were... Lol
Here's a question I've been wondering about for a while. What happens if Eichel just goes ahead on his own and gets the surgery he wants? Can the Sabres even stop that from happening?
He can absolutely do that that’s what people don’t understand. They think sabers are holding him in a jail cell somewhere.
If he has the surgery he breaks his agreement with the Sabres and likely completely voids his $10 million contract. Money talks. It’s his choice in real life
@@hockeyb4886 ok. That's what I was wondering. But wouldn't that then just make him an unrestricted free agent? Then he could just go sign with another team, I would assume.
I’m not 100% sure to be honest with you but I think something like that. Which is what makes this situation so dumb to me on the Sabres part. Their leverage is slipping so fast
I really think the reason why he wouldn’t want to do that is because if I’m Jack Eichel I wouldn’t be close to 100% sure that I’m getting another $10,000,000+ deal once this whole thing is over. He doesn’t really even know for a *fact* that he will be OK to play again. So I wouldn’t take that gamble if I were him and if I were to guess I would say that’s why he doesn’t just tell the Sabres to shove it. But idk
@@hockeyb4886 Yeah. He's locked up at 10mil per for the next 5 years. Even if he really wants that surgery, is it worth walking away from that kind of guaranteed money? He also gets a $10 million signing bonus after this next season. So if Jack waits it out this year in Buffalo he'll get $20 million to maybe not play hockey, and then his no-trade clause kicks in so he gets a say where he gets traded. Would be really dumb for him to go beyond the team and get it done right now.
He’s going to Calgary!
The price has to come down. And they will most likely take back some bad, although much shorter, contracts with picks/prospects or a good player.
Adams will trade him when he gets the deal he wants or Eichel stays. Adams will teach him a lesson here
Until Eichel sits out, plus “teaching him a lesson” basically guarantees he’s gone when his contract it up
@@bitternarwhal5126 Eichel won't sit, he wants to play very badly if you haven't noticed. His contract is up in 5 years and most, if not all, of his prime will be wasted or it won't be depending on if he wants to be a leader and Captain at some point in his career here. Jack is bent over a barrel here, he can play and make the team better and stay, he can wait for 5 years or he can help is get the return we want. That's the only choices he has at this point
@@SabresGuy87 the sabres have no sights of being good for the next 20 years, let alone be good in the next 5, his prime will be wasted either way just like every other high potential player they ever had
@@bitternarwhal5126 are you a psychic?
@@SabresGuy87 don't have to be to see a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in a decade, hasn't one a series since 05 and has been a top 5 draft pick consistently will be trash for a long time lol
Good stuff guys
If the Sabres don't back down on their crazy expectations, Eichel will neuter whichever team he joins, can't make the playoffs if you gave away the farm to get him. Career golfer it looks like.
He is a good risk to take for a team looking to rebuild or a team who’s window is just about shut and can give away picks/prospects. In both of those situations they need to retain some of the contract.
If Jack wants the surgery, why doesn't he relieve the Sabres of his contract obligations if he can't play again.
I think the Sabres would make him void his contract before he actually went under the knife if he decides to go ahead and have the surgery he wants, and he doesn’t want to let go of his 10.5M contract lol. He’s not physically being restrained from having the surgery. It’s just money. He probably isn’t sure he can secure another 10M+ deal if he cancels his contract if I had to guess. I could be totally wrong with how this works but that’s how I understand this
Us sabres fans love our hockey but it's not bothering us as bad as people think the Bill's are taking a ton of pain away from this horrible team.
Reilly, Amirov, and a conditional 1st and 2nd rounder in 2023 - that kicks in as long as Eichel plays minimum 50 games with Toronto.
That’s close to 4 first rounders… 3 firsts and a second… plus we put Jack on LTIR for most of this year… we are good for salary cap with work to do next summer… sandin has to step up and fill in for Morgan
Gm Adams is up against it.It’s a no win situation.No team is going to trade prized assets for damaged goods.Plus at 10 mil per season,not a lot of teams have the cap space to make this trade work.A third party team may be needed.
Wouldn't Buffalo be better off bowing to Eichel? Give him the surgery he asks for... (If not done already) and asks what would make him like to stay? They cannot win any other way.. even if it is too late, try to walk it back. That seems like a more doable recourse than trading. I mean is everyone 100% positive it cannot be walked back?
"History is full of these...we trade you a bunch of guys, but you get the superstar."
Unless you're the Nordiques/Avalanche dealing Eric Lindros.
The fundamental issue is that the Sabres ALWAYS wanted way too much for Jack Eichel and it’s hitting a breaking point. They could’ve traded him a long long time ago for a great return but they’ve overplayed their hand and this is what happens
Hockey B Sabres wanting too much ? 10 million cap hit cant be put underneath a carpet that easy
Not my fault they paid him 10 million and can’t build a team around him. At the end of the day it is one player and no team in the league wants to give up five good players to get one good player. If they did he would’ve been traded already. The Sabres asking price for Jack Eichel is a complete and utter joke and everybody knows it that’s why he’s not getting traded
Former Washington Capitals goaltender Craig Anderson has signed with Buffalo Sabres 1 year $750K deal
Ooooooh so exciting
Divorce?
Eichel will go to Vegas . They have the cap space now with Alex Tuck not being not able to play for at least 5 month's . Also Reeves now gone to N Y . Vegas will offer Buffalo 2 starting players and a pick soon . Watch .
Yes Buffalo needs starting players now .
Eichel (proven healthy), for Larkin, Edvinsson, and a first.. tell me that wouldn't suit both team's needs??
What makes it even uglier is that eichel wont have the surgery the sabres want him to so he wont even pass his physical come camp. So how do the sabres expect his value to improve?
CJ's a rapper now ?
Trade um to the khl for some players. That would be crazy if it was possible.
He just switched agents. Maybe we could trade Tavares for him since the have the same shady agent now.
Buffalo. Buffalo is happening to Jack Eichel
Free the man
Whats going on with the Leafs tho?
this is a "rip the band aid off" type of situation at this point. Just get this over with cause its dragging out now. He's def missed out of some good deals that were offered. Im a rangers fan and i think the initial package offered was a really fair one which included strome. I would have loved to see him in NYR but it is what it is. I am a Eichel fan as well and i honestly feel bad for the guy. Granted he had a healthy contract in buffalo but he spent a good amount of his prime in a organization that has made so many bad decisions. He did his part and i think the right thing to do would be to get his deal done. I know vegas had a good package on the table and Minnesota had a nice offer but the fact that want more is just crazy. They are basically asking for a return on a player with a unpredictable future and uncertain health conditions. They need to flex a little based on those facts alone. So curious to see where this goes though!!
I want the Rangers to stay clear of this entire mess. Obviously they want much more than Strome. You eventually reach the point where there are suddenly holes in the lines that were starting to come together last year. Eichel can only play one shift at a time. I like the moves the Rangers have made to add "grit".
Just a thought, tho: if Eichel wants out so badly, could he just threaten to not show up at training camp if he's not traded? I mean, I put myself in his place, I'd give it some thought, be it just to put pressure and accelerate things.. And yeah I get that it would give him a bad rep in the face of GMs elsewhere, but given the situation it'd be almost understandable...
That would hurt his standing more with teams
Let him suffer be fined
He is under a thing called contract. The Sabres owns his rights including the rehab plan. If he doesn't show up at training Camp, other GM's will notice. It will make a trade even harder. If he wants out, he should take a big cup of STFU and grind through it.
Kevin Adams is doing great considering the hand he was dealt, and he can def win this trade but it will come down to how much of the salary we have to retain...
To Rangers for a first, Zibanejhad and a top prospect
Montreal
Rakell, Henrique, & this year's 1st to Anaheim.
See Erik Karlsson
Bailey, Wilde, 1st for him.
Anyone notice that Adam positions his camera like a short guy? Jesse, the actual tall guy, has no problems being centered while Adam tries to look big in his frame to add more weight to his opinions.
Jesse, stop hogging the conversation.
Jesse is only on the show to meet the woke quota... ffs he has a raptors jersey behind him... does he not know this is a hockey show?
@@FC-tq1yj Jesse has contributed to the Hockey convo for years, you’re literally showing your prejudice by assuming he’s only on the show because he’s black. Check your racism bud, although you probably won’t since you’re more afraid of being “woke” than actually being understanding
@@FC-tq1yj
Based
My birthday is September 19th, I hope that brings him to Anaheim.
What about Kosk + Kass for Eichel.
@HockeyGD well they still don't really have a goalie... and if they're just going to give him away... why not Edm... we can put his cap hit on ltir and with any luck have both him and Oscar miraculously be ready for game 1 of the playoffs... Edmonton could be the Cdn version of the Lightning... lol
@bret4880 bret4880 yes/no ... but if they're going to give him away and since they still need a goalie... could be win win... in reality... Kosk would be a great goalie for a defensive team and Buff doesn't have exp to be an offense team
This has nothing to do with a PR move for the Sabres. We’re rebuilding and we don’t have a timeline for this trade having to get done.
And for that they will suffer. He’s never gonna play a game for Buffalo and the more he sits and the more the sabres deny him the medical treatment he needs the less valuable he becomes. You’ll be paying him 10 million a year to sit in the press box and get zero assets.
Actually if i remember correctly Eichels NMC kicks in this upcoming season, so your best chance of getting the most assets i would assume is before then
@@ozzydo2314 Jack wont sit, it's not in his nature if he is healthy
@@OB197 his NMC means nothing cause you still don't have to trade him unless you get what you want from a team. If Eichel really wants out, he won't say no to any trade outta here. NMC is useless to him
@@SabresGuy87 a NMC isn’t really useless because he could say “No I will only accept a trade to blank team”, he could easily not get the surgery he wants or Buffalo wants and just stay out hurt till his NMC and he pick where he goes, then Buffalo surely will get less assets then they could now. It happened with Rick Nash in CBJ if I remember correctly, only difference is slight less term and no injury concerns and CBJ still got a weaker return for waiting it out
Trade Marner and a third line or fourth line center and maybe a first round pick. Then move Tavares down to the third line and put Eichel as the second line center. We need to trade the piglet Marner!
So you want to pay a guy 11 million a year to play on your 3rd line? The only way the leafs should be in on Eichel is if they can trade Tavares and some change for him. You don't trade a a winger that was top five in scoring for another C when you already have two top line C.
The pegula family is now wanting a brand new bills stadium funded by the taxpayers 100 percent. Pie in the sky ask as they promote jack eichel to be something that he has not achieved yet. He is way overrated and they paid way too much just like skinner. Bad deal after bad deal. They will end up driving Jack's value down and be forced to take less a lot less. Who wants to pay a player 10 million to sit in the press box ? Kim pegula.
marner for eichel.
Yeah, that will give the Leafs roster balance and flexibility. Right, we complain that Marner is making $10M+ and we want to replace him with another $10M+ player with a possible career altering or ending injury. The proper way to trade Marner is to receive assets (plural) in return, not another $10M player. Marner is an overpaid, underachieving player and his salary is killing this team's cap. Eichel does NOT solve that problem.
@@TheGiua1973 you’re right, if Toronto trades Marner they have to receive multiple assets in return. Maybe a solid defenseman and a winger + picks or something like that
Go Sabres January 2022 Jack eichel to Toronto auston Matthews or Jack eichel Edmonton for Connor McDavid because players probably want out of their situation because they want to win a championship this is coming from a Buffalo Sabres fan
are your drunk? High? Stupid? All 3? Worst take I've ever seen. Not even 1 word of that was correct. 🤣
Dangle needs a new camera and better lighting.
Monohan, 1st, zary and valamki for Eichel
To be honest Adam should just be grateful that someone found inherent romantic value in him despite being a leafs fan.
Buffalo is incompetent as usual. Thatsl's all I got from this whole circus.
Buffalo is doing the right thing jack isn't guna walk over is he's a cancer
@@hdgyhdgirf8160 If he had surgery, this would all be over. I dislike primadonna millionaires, but Jack is actually justified this time. This could affect him long term.
@@nobody-wk6ejit will take 5 years off playing easy ...I know the right drs
Not sure what these guy really know
Coke issue
Ehicel is a bust of a player that couldn't do what he needed to do to make buffalo a better team, he's a complete failure as far as I'm concerned
"Phil Kessel is a bust of a player that couldn't do what he needed to do to make Toronto a better team, he's a complete failure as far as I'm concerned"
Eichel is fantastic, but it's a team sport. Even McDavid has more help than Eichel ever got in Buffalo
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The hero we don't need