“I imagine managing Roy Keane would be very difficult” why? Such a silly thing to say, I’m not the biggest football fan but I’m pretty sure all it required was A) showing him basic respect. B) Know what you’re talking about and C) have a winning mentality. If you can’t muster that you’ve no business managing.
He fell out with Fergie at the end of his career, it’s sad but it’s not exactly an unprecedented thing that a proud player who is at the end is the last guy to realize he’s spent. The only other manager he ever fell out with is Mick McCarthy, who wasn’t fit to run a chip shop. When people say Roy was tough to manage, well he couldn’t have been too tough because he played 98% of his club career for two managers and the only reason Forest let him leave was because they got relegated and Clough left, Clough didn’t want to let him go for love or money.
Difficult to manage no chance Roy wanted to win every game I would have thought he was easy to manage the players at United now I would say are hard to manage because they don't realise or don't care what it means to play for that club
Most of the time? Nearly every time he stepped onto a pitch he performed. He inspired and drove every other player on his team to the next level. What United would give for another Roy Keane now.
Agree mate, and I would take another Carrick as well. The talent has still been there even since SAF retired. What the team needs is leadership on the field and in the sheds - to ground these young guys and drive a proper work ethic. Bruno is a talisman, but the team needs leaders in the vein of Keane, Carrick, Bruce, Robbo etc. to pull it all together.
@@pedrobandito2 "most players" Not at Utd at the time. The prob at the time was working out if the drop was permanent (class and form saying) or temporary (Scholes came back from injury once and was crap for a while, turns out he was just off the pace) Fergie had seen plenty of evidence showing f or keane it was permanent. Keane's struggles at Celtic showed he was right.
"Man Utd Coach Gives Insight into Roy Keane Fallout" So Mike, what happened? ' I can't answer that for you, it was between those two ' I always bite at the bait 🙄
Roy explains it in detail in his book, I think it is in the second book he done. All from Roys perspective of course, but the book is well worth a read. I found his explanation of the meeting in the managers office with all the playing squad which basically ended his time there hilarious.
Mike wasn't in the meeting, it was sir Alex and Queiroz. Mike has previously stated that he has never felt the need to ask the boss about what happened.
I randomly watched some of the 2005 Fa Cup Final the other day, Man Utd V Arsenal. Roy played 120 minutes, scored a pen in the shootout, and played well from what I could see! Anyone aged 30 or over generally gets pulled off before 90 minutes these days!
@@Wozefootballchannel I'm not even a 'United' fan. Modric barely starts now. Kroos is in the most dominant team of all time but in the big games, when it's heavy going, I've seen him come off.
Watched him play against France at landsdowne Rd in 2005 aswell, France had Vieira, Makalele and Zidane in midfield, Roy was absolutely outstanding. We lost 1 nil but those were 3 of the greats of the modern game and he was dominant against them. I think people just think he was a thug but he was an excellent player.
@@jasonwolfe5787 In United's Top 5 greatest ever midfielders, and if he'd left at his peak and went to Italy or Spain, he would be spoken in about in same breath as his peers at the time. Imagine if he'd gone the Galactico's instead of Graveson? But it's all the other club's players and supporters who had their collective arses handed to them by Keane that only concentrate on the Haaland tackle - a player nobody would even remember otherwise, except in my book for engaging in a grub act standing over the top of a badly injured player abusing him about his deserved wages. Yes, Keano should have taken the higher ground there and waved the winners medals in Alfe's face, but history shows payback is a bitch in a contact sport.
They all want the money, some just want the success as well. Same way you are at work…it’s no different. Players are employees and fans are just loyal customers of the product being sold…don’t ever forget that.
@@barrymckenna8547 Yes, he did. He just won a treble, the PFA, FWA and finished 6th in a Balon D'or. Nothing wrong with flexing your muscle to get a pay rise. He was the first player in England to break the 100k weekly wage.
I can’t believe this says “ex man United coach” and not “Mike Phelan.” He was a serial achiever as a coach wherever he went. Respect him enough to use is name.
Asking if it was difficult to coach somebody like Roy is the kind of question someone who doesn't understand the game would ask. Hot head/pride aside, he'd be a coach's dream.
Keano was ahead of his time and when you hear ex playera talk about him it is nothing but admiration his drive as a person and captain was made for United
Every time I think about Roy Kean I keep coming back to the same thought that if man united had a winning minded totally focused and concentrated leader like him again it would make the difference be tween us winning and not its what we need
It's amazing how people who've never shared a pitch or a dressing room with Roy Keane have a pre-conceived notion about his personality. That initial question could, and should, have been so much better.
Keane was a top player and was tough on himself. And wanted his teammates to want the mentality to win and have pride. How many players would get booked in a semi final of a European cup and know they were to miss final and think, right this is my final I'm going to get my team there. Players these days care more about money than winning trophies.
Fergie threw keane under the bus. Keane's problem with ferguson was making up lies so he had an excuse to do what he did. Whatever you wanna think about keane hes honest and loves utd. The infamous video where hes supposedly brought up players contracts and wages never happened. Rooney Scholes giggs nevil butt have all said what keane said on the video was bang on keane just told them all where they went wrong who played bad, he was utds cpt he was out injured with a broken foot. Ferguson has done it to plenty of players over the years Beckham another 1 he did dirty
That’s most of the mainstream media mate , lots of footy talk is rhetorical, for example the expression “ park the bus “ folks repeat this as though there’s an actual bus 😂
All questions just baiting and trying to get some dirty story on Roy - pathetic. Absolute class from Mike to keep it real, honest and positive. Terrible interview and opportunity lost to actually talk to a coaching legend.
We know why he was let go. He was the last of that kind of persoanlity in a game and dressing rooms that were pandering to players rather than bringing them through tough. Thats why the decision was made, the interview was just the spark. In the end i think fergie actually got it correct in the long run but ousting him publically was the wrong way to do it, keane loved the club that he felt was his and to be dropped like that still hurts him, loyalty means everything to him. As much as I'd love to see him and ferguson bury the hatchet to keano it'd mean backing down on everything he stands for, so it wont happen. The managers power of foresight was completely correct but let down terribly by its execution, keanos naïvety was his downfall so quickly, he didnt notice the game passing him by in terms of a younger, softer generation coming through and he let himself light the tinder. That being said he should have left under a shower of applause and praise for what he did for the club
If you understand how people with autism cope with life and turn negatives into positives then managing Roy Keane would be a breeze. He is a high performing autistic adult with a one dimensional outlook on life who has achieved great things and inspired others. I'm not sure Mike Phelan has given much insight into that.
Ben, with all due respect, you don’t get subscribers by lying about what is being discussed on your podcasts/in your videos. Mike Phelan offers no insight whatsoever into the ‘Roy Keane Fallout’. I now wont be subscribing, nor will I be watching any other content of yours, as I can’t stand a clickbait creator such as yourself.
It sounds like he does not know anything about anything. Maybe he was just there to pour the whisky for sir alex. Has to be the most boring interview of all time. I hope you didn't pay him for this tosh.
Well, I guess we have to respect his clever way of dribbling the real answer out of the question, while also staying calm etc. A very professional approach even after 20 years ... the thing is that we were all click-baited ... big time 🤣
What a load of old tosh, Roy Keane drove each player around him, every team in the world would have benefited from a player like him, phelan bang average support coach
Mike Phelan got paid alot as the man that stood around at United smiling after matches and very little else the last couple of years. Has more time now for podcasts and is pretty boring...better find another source of income
If having high standards and being a winner is being difficult, then I guess that’s why United are exactly where they are at the moment. What United would give for another Roy Keane now.
I'm not having that mate, Carver would never ever try to give his manager a literal heart attack by busting a balloon. MP gets a forever pass for that action 😂
“I imagine managing Roy Keane would be very difficult” why? Such a silly thing to say, I’m not the biggest football fan but I’m pretty sure all it required was A) showing him basic respect. B) Know what you’re talking about and C) have a winning mentality. If you can’t muster that you’ve no business managing.
exactly what I was going to write. I would have imagined he would have been incredibly easy to manage if the management were anywhere near competent
He was self managing. Simple as
He fell out with Fergie at the end of his career, it’s sad but it’s not exactly an unprecedented thing that a proud player who is at the end is the last guy to realize he’s spent. The only other manager he ever fell out with is Mick McCarthy, who wasn’t fit to run a chip shop.
When people say Roy was tough to manage, well he couldn’t have been too tough because he played 98% of his club career for two managers and the only reason Forest let him leave was because they got relegated and Clough left, Clough didn’t want to let him go for love or money.
Difficult to manage no chance Roy wanted to win every game I would have thought he was easy to manage the players at United now I would say are hard to manage because they don't realise or don't care what it means to play for that club
Ben heath likes drama. If you listen to some of his questions, that is his aim. It makes good viewing. I wouldnt take an interview by him though.
Most of the time? Nearly every time he stepped onto a pitch he performed. He inspired and drove every other player on his team to the next level. What United would give for another Roy Keane now.
Agree mate, and I would take another Carrick as well. The talent has still been there even since SAF retired. What the team needs is leadership on the field and in the sheds - to ground these young guys and drive a proper work ethic. Bruno is a talisman, but the team needs leaders in the vein of Keane, Carrick, Bruce, Robbo etc. to pull it all together.
His level had dropped towards the end.
@@Geokinkladzeand was still above most players (even ones more talented than him)
@@pedrobandito2 "most players" Not at Utd at the time. The prob at the time was working out if the drop was permanent (class and form saying) or temporary (Scholes came back from injury once and was crap for a while, turns out he was just off the pace) Fergie had seen plenty of evidence showing f or keane it was permanent. Keane's struggles at Celtic showed he was right.
That's who Joao Neves is, not aggressively socially though
"Man Utd Coach Gives Insight into Roy Keane Fallout"
So Mike, what happened?
' I can't answer that for you, it was between those two '
I always bite at the bait 🙄
Roy explains it in detail in his book, I think it is in the second book he done. All from Roys perspective of course, but the book is well worth a read. I found his explanation of the meeting in the managers office with all the playing squad which basically ended his time there hilarious.
Thanks for the heads up
Mike wasn't in the meeting, it was sir Alex and Queiroz.
Mike has previously stated that he has never felt the need to ask the boss about what happened.
I randomly watched some of the 2005 Fa Cup Final the other day, Man Utd V Arsenal. Roy played 120 minutes, scored a pen in the shootout, and played well from what I could see! Anyone aged 30 or over generally gets pulled off before 90 minutes these days!
Modric and Kroos play golf then or you just dont watch football outside United
@@Wozefootballchannel I'm not even a 'United' fan. Modric barely starts now. Kroos is in the most dominant team of all time but in the big games, when it's heavy going, I've seen him come off.
@@samanglais in 2005 keane was 35 and Modric played full games when he was at that age and i watch madrid games.you can do your research
Watched him play against France at landsdowne Rd in 2005 aswell, France had Vieira, Makalele and Zidane in midfield, Roy was absolutely outstanding. We lost 1 nil but those were 3 of the greats of the modern game and he was dominant against them. I think people just think he was a thug but he was an excellent player.
@@jasonwolfe5787 In United's Top 5 greatest ever midfielders, and if he'd left at his peak and went to Italy or Spain, he would be spoken in about in same breath as his peers at the time. Imagine if he'd gone the Galactico's instead of Graveson?
But it's all the other club's players and supporters who had their collective arses handed to them by Keane that only concentrate on the Haaland tackle - a player nobody would even remember otherwise, except in my book for engaging in a grub act standing over the top of a badly injured player abusing him about his deserved wages.
Yes, Keano should have taken the higher ground there and waved the winners medals in Alfe's face, but history shows payback is a bitch in a contact sport.
Roy was a winner and gave everything for the team. So many utd players now just want the money .
Footballers in General Just want the money Not Man Utd players alone. the game is lost to the supporters
Didn’t Roy Keane threaten to leave unless he got a massive pay rise
@@barrymckenna8547 I reckon so.
They all want the money, some just want the success as well. Same way you are at work…it’s no different. Players are employees and fans are just loyal customers of the product being sold…don’t ever forget that.
@@barrymckenna8547 Yes, he did. He just won a treble, the PFA, FWA and finished 6th in a Balon D'or. Nothing wrong with flexing your muscle to get a pay rise. He was the first player in England to break the 100k weekly wage.
Roy is a winner, leader and a real team player. What more could anybody ask for...
Rather predictably, no insight whatsoever. Please stop putting fake titles to these clips. Shame on you. Unsubscribed.
He’d be a joy to manage. Far better than these sensitive souls now who you can’t raise your voice to but who think they are all special.
Never has so many words meant so little. Mr platitude take a bow.
You want gossip. Go and watch Loose Women you soft touch
You want gossip. Go and watch Loose Women you quilt
Why?
I can’t believe this says “ex man United coach” and not “Mike Phelan.”
He was a serial achiever as a coach wherever he went. Respect him enough to use is name.
Asking if it was difficult to coach somebody like Roy is the kind of question someone who doesn't understand the game would ask. Hot head/pride aside, he'd be a coach's dream.
He didn't say anything we didn't already know!
Roy Keene was a top player and a very proud man.People like that you treat with respect.They either fight back or walk away manager or not.
This interviewer wanted Phelan to bash Keane…
And looked bored when he didn't get any juice for his podcast 2:43
This guy is fkin useless
He did the prick
Keano was ahead of his time and when you hear ex playera talk about him it is nothing but admiration his drive as a person and captain was made for United
Sir Alex assembled a team of individual talents and unique egos, and made them a winning blend. It took some man management
Every time I think about Roy Kean I keep coming back to the same thought that if man united had a winning minded totally focused and concentrated leader like him again it would make the difference be tween us winning and not its what we need
It's amazing how people who've never shared a pitch or a dressing room with Roy Keane have a pre-conceived notion about his personality. That initial question could, and should, have been so much better.
Keane was a top player and was tough on himself.
And wanted his teammates to want the mentality to win and have pride.
How many players would get booked in a semi final of a European cup and know they were to miss final and think, right this is my final I'm going to get my team there.
Players these days care more about money than winning trophies.
I remember Phelan playing that was way way back
I still see Roy now so I can only say good things😂🇮🇪☘️☘️☘️
Has Micky P got a book coming out or something?
Gambling problem. Always at the casino fella
I’d like to ask you about Roy Keane…….. “oh ok” 😂
😂😂 his reaction was classic
😂
No insight whatsoever
What surprised me the most about this chat, is that mike wears skinny jeans
And has his own brand of merch!
Fergie threw keane under the bus. Keane's problem with ferguson was making up lies so he had an excuse to do what he did. Whatever you wanna think about keane hes honest and loves utd. The infamous video where hes supposedly brought up players contracts and wages never happened. Rooney Scholes giggs nevil butt have all said what keane said on the video was bang on keane just told them all where they went wrong who played bad, he was utds cpt he was out injured with a broken foot. Ferguson has done it to plenty of players over the years Beckham another 1 he did dirty
Keane then went on to throw players under the bus weekly as a coach you would think he learnt something.
Phelan says a lot without saying a lot
That’s most of the mainstream media mate , lots of footy talk is rhetorical, for example the expression “ park the bus “ folks repeat this as though there’s an actual bus 😂
Lots of red herrings here
He gives anti-insight.
So true!!!!
@@Magicalfluidprocess True words !
@benheath please qualify as to why you would say it was difficult to manage Roy Keane?
obviously. but also a damn good leader of men.
This is insight on how not to give insight! KEANOS FUCKING MAGIC HE WEARS A MAGIC HAT.
Clickbait title. Your standards are low Ben.
Played as a under 16 often against Mick phelans brother, Marcus great people
May be the worst name drop in the history of name drops 😂
Well done 👍 😂😂
I call bs
@@adilabbas8628 you call bs on a random guy playing football against a random guy?
@@brettpilkington9539I told this tale to King Charles the other day and he felt the same....
All questions just baiting and trying to get some dirty story on Roy - pathetic.
Absolute class from Mike to keep it real, honest and positive.
Terrible interview and opportunity lost to actually talk to a coaching legend.
We know why he was let go. He was the last of that kind of persoanlity in a game and dressing rooms that were pandering to players rather than bringing them through tough. Thats why the decision was made, the interview was just the spark.
In the end i think fergie actually got it correct in the long run but ousting him publically was the wrong way to do it, keane loved the club that he felt was his and to be dropped like that still hurts him, loyalty means everything to him. As much as I'd love to see him and ferguson bury the hatchet to keano it'd mean backing down on everything he stands for, so it wont happen.
The managers power of foresight was completely correct but let down terribly by its execution, keanos naïvety was his downfall so quickly, he didnt notice the game passing him by in terms of a younger, softer generation coming through and he let himself light the tinder. That being said he should have left under a shower of applause and praise for what he did for the club
If you understand how people with autism cope with life and turn negatives into positives then managing Roy Keane would be a breeze. He is a high performing autistic adult with a one dimensional outlook on life who has achieved great things and inspired others. I'm not sure Mike Phelan has given much insight into that.
phelan will always be remembered as the man that popped the balloon
If you buy trouble you get trouble. Having said that I'd want him in my team.
Isn’t this the guy who got a bollocking from sir Alex for bursting the balloon on the sideline ?😂
Ben, with all due respect, you don’t get subscribers by lying about what is being discussed on your podcasts/in your videos. Mike Phelan offers no insight whatsoever into the ‘Roy Keane Fallout’. I now wont be subscribing, nor will I be watching any other content of yours, as I can’t stand a clickbait creator such as yourself.
Having endured 5mins of that waffle I'm under absolutely no illusion that Keane looked at you and thought 'wtf I'm not having you' either
Mike Phelan did grand a job at United.
No insight whatsoever.
Roy Keane brilliant player - managed brilliantly, but all careers come to end …to all of us, it’s whether we choose it or someone else does
Brilliant
Great podcast Ben Heath really pushes the boundaries with this groundbreaking interview technique
All i can hear is heavy breathing 😅. I cant focus.
How to talk for 5 minutes without saying anything.
My guy is a human 1000 word essay 😂 How is my man able to say so much without actually saying anything 😂
Is he really wearing an MP t-shirt? 🤣🤣
Lol...Mike would a make a good politician...Says a lot without actually saying anything.
Already been said by others. Maybe you would be a good politician?
@@benleatherland7020 ....Big news ! Someone else notices the same thing ! Perhaps you should get out more !
Can all comments on roy keane be satire now? Everyone says the same thing.
Waffling on without actually saying anything meaningful
Sorry…is that a Mike Phelan branded t-shirt?? 😂
Utd woukd not have won half of what they did without Keane
I must have missed the insights he gave in this video... click baiting titles now? losing credibility with your content..
It sounds like he does not know anything about anything. Maybe he was just there to pour the whisky for sir alex.
Has to be the most boring interview of all time. I hope you didn't pay him for this tosh.
Well, I guess we have to respect his clever way of dribbling the real answer out of the question, while also staying calm etc. A very professional approach even after 20 years ... the thing is that we were all click-baited ... big time 🤣
Mike was just a yes man plain and simple never had a genuine thought of his own and towed the party line..
How do you know this?
Roy was good but not a patch on robbie savage
He was waffling lol
What a load of old tosh, Roy Keane drove each player around him, every team in the world would have benefited from a player like him, phelan bang average support coach
Phelan said a lot about nothing
Mick roy alex get them in an interveiw
Mike phelan ment nothing to the players and Roy Keane was there best player
Mike Phelan got paid alot as the man that stood around at United smiling after matches and very little else the last couple of years. Has more time now for podcasts and is pretty boring...better find another source of income
Mike bucket and sponge phelan .. Keane wasn't that difficult he was there 9 years ..
12
If having high standards and being a winner is being difficult, then I guess that’s why United are exactly where they are at the moment. What United would give for another Roy Keane now.
Why does he have his initials in his top.
He runs a coaching academy, called Mike Phelan Coaching.
Thats the academy logo
Always been a top man. A lovely fellow. Nice one chief.
Coach gives absolutely no insight whatsoever into fallout ....Try that for a heading
Had more guts than the little snowflake brigade nowadays
Phelan was the arse licking assistant to the biggest cheat in the history of the game.
😂 clown
The football world seems a weird place. These guys aren't geniuses, are they?
Phelan is a spoofer. A Manc John Carver.
I'm not having that mate, Carver would never ever try to give his manager a literal heart attack by busting a balloon. MP gets a forever pass for that action 😂
I doubt Roy listened to this waffler without rolling his eyes & yawning
Weak weak weak yes man
‘I managing coaching Roy was very difficult’ why cos Roy Keane was so unprofessional? Is he having a laugh? Does he know anything
clickbait, move on.
Old story
Wish we could get public schoolboy creeps banned from doing football related podcasts
Don't think I'll bother watching
What a bland interview
Pride and ego, doesn't fit well with wisdom and humility.
He didn't give any insight. I'll set this channel to be avoided on my algorithms.
Id say Ferguson was the problem
Keane fell out with both his club manager and international manager!! The two can't be wrong ..
We get it great player but a 🛎️end
Useless clip, don't even bother wasting your time watching
Awful clip. Silly question as well. This is miles off other TH-cam content on football
Phil was so bad im sorry he's arrogant, learnt nothing from fergie and bitter coz ole got sacked.
Mike Phelan , oof, talks like he played . No one hears or sees
Go to stick to football
Such stupid questions
Typical utd pay me wages no soul taraaaa 🤢
A.F was and is a liar
Sooner he is gone the better
Roy never been a great
I would have turned this camera off and ended the podcast... Weak chat this.... Boring