Honestly the most of the Freddy's make for pretty good dads (tho Funtime/Molten Freddy is to unstable to be near a kid plus he would eat them like Baby since it's their programing)
Hell even his own WICKEDNESS Nightmare/Shadow Freddy Is a better father it's confirmed by the books to have led the animatronic to the safe room to free them (altough idk weather he feels sorry when he haunted you as Nightmare)
William: why do my kids never come visit me Michael: probably because your a dangerous sociopath with a large history of violence William: oh Elisabeth: i don't know how you keep forgetting
Yea I remember thinking it was so stupid to have him be nice fsr, but kinda glad they didn’t do another circus baby. They instead were gonna have something actually heartbreaking.
Dude I'm so stupid because when I first read this I interpreted "Freddy being an ally" as meaning that he was canonically stated to support LGBTQ+ people
He's pretty much the one thing I liked about Security Breach plus it's nice having Freddy back in the light after the Afton Family essentially stole it from him
Kinda surprised you didn’t mention movie William, bro literally manipulates and STABS his daughter, not to mention it’s implied Vanessa watched him kill her friends
Best 3 dads in FNAF: 1-Nightmare Freddy: literally, if you make his children cry, he will come and tear you in half. 2-Freddy in Freddy in Space: he faces multiple threats, gathers his band, and gets in shape just to save his son. 3-Glamrock Freddy. Overall, it's funny that, unironically, the best father in FNAF is Freddy himself and multiple versions of him, including one that is a literal killing machine.
I'm still extremely surprised how consistant the concept of Freddy being a dad is, both in and outside the universe of the games. I wonder if is somehow canon that the character of Freddy is a father inside the universe of FNAF.
@@despinasgarden.4100makes me wonder if Helpy was fazbear entertainments attempt to make an animatronic of Freddy’s son (since he’s the only considerably smaller bear animatronic to freddy)
@@marioblaze2723though, they may actually be helping Afton. See Sire Squacks video: Is Shadow Freddy William's Stand? And yes, it is an actually serious video
@@tinaherr3856 Oh i've already watched it it's an amazing video altough the Fnaf Guide book when talking about the Shadows from Fnaf 2 It says that they wanted to free the spirits from the suits and Afton had no idea It was Shadow Freddy that lead them in the Safe Room (altough Shadow Freddy might be a *little* spiteful towards Michael and that's why we have Nightmare)
@@marioblaze2723 Nightmare could also be really spiteful to the Crying Child as well, especially if we go down the route of Nightmare being a sort of embodiment of death (what I think). Well either that or Nightmare also just wants "de Child" to pass on too. Either of them or it's just flat out non-existent, nothing really has a solid answer anymore with FNaF lore.
I can now imagine Glamrock Freddy being like “aww come on, I am not that great” before opening his stomach hatch to reveal tons of ice cream for gregory’s birthday party
I'm now wondering which came first: Henry deciding to teach his robot daughter that it was actually his _wife's_ favourite child who got brutally murdered; or his wife taking Sam and getting as far away from him as possible.
My guess is the wife taking Sam, because Henry's state of mind would have turned on her for abandoning him even if it was the right choice at the time because he lost it, and that it wouldn't make sense as a false memory if Sammy and the mom was still in the picture. If Henry was able to implant false memories but his wife and other child still were with him, he would have still been nuts but would need a different false memory to make the robot Charlie convinced she was real. It just wouldn't have worked otherwise, and Henry doesn't strike me as the type to make a stray insult to his other family members before they left/if they never left as opposed to after they left. If they stayed with him even in his madness, Henry might not have actually ended himself and could have stayed more stable, but his family was not obligated to stay because he's literally playing God from grief.
Makes sense why the worst of the worst “always comes back” then, he’s always gonna be a bad dad as he’s always gonna be alive (at least until the dumb mimic retcon)
Oswald's Dad was a good Dad in Into the Pit. But nobody is touching Glamrock Freddy as Best Dad. It's most unfortunate that a literal robot is better Dad than the majority of the Dads in the FNAF Universe but it is what it is. You can't expect good Dads to be present in a franchise that's built on the murders and desecration of remains of multiple children, after all.
I dunno, seems like he could have got his kid into camp, a summer theatre production, some weekly art classes, or even arranged with old school friends’ parents to do a couple of visits over the summer. Not all these options cost a lot, and a lot cost less than restaurant dining every day Anything is better than getting your kid to essentially wait in the library (and this is before public libraries got noisy and cool) for a month and a half. Even if that was the default, Oswald would’ve been far less resentful and miserable had he had a couple of things to look forward to in the new town.
One thing the William and Elizabeth segment made me realize is that he absolutely could have made it so Baby couldn’t hurt Elizabeth, since the Funtimes and Toys have programming meant to track kids/adults and target specific people, so he could have his family on a Never Target list. But because of his narcissism, he didn’t believe Elizabeth wouldn’t ever disobey him and he deluded himself into thinking that his kid killing robot somehow wouldn’t kill his own kid.
That or he purposefully told his daughter that the murder robot is made for her and then told her last minute to not go near it so that in case he gets caught or smth, he can act like he didn't mean for her to die
Henry is such an odd character for me, cause like, I can see the pieces of him TRYING to be a good father, but he also put his daughter in a torture machine so he could set her on fire without her fighting back (man lefty sounds horrid when you put it blunt)
Totally. He strikes me as the kind of guy to put effort into 'being a good dad', but without the self-awareness needed to not hurt his child(ren) through his absent-minded actions and inaction. He just doesn't think ANYTHING through, methinks.
I see it as some form of "the ends justify the means". He puts her through the torture of Lefty, but because he knows it will be beneficial for her in the end. It's a twisted form of parent care. In my opnion, this only strengthens Henry's character as a flawed person.
Its pretty crazy how Nightmare Freddy is a better dad than William and Henry. Like, he's a mechanical abomination who may not be real, out to kill a child ans he sends out his mini-me's to swarm the bed. Yet the spooky bear is still a better dad by comparison. All the papa bears in FNAF are strangely good dads.
Let's see. We got Literal Abusive Psycopath Victimized Bum that everyone tries to paint as a hero Neglectful Officer Parent we know absolutely nothing about yet everyone and their mother insists is the greatest character in FNAF history All sorts of fathers that range from good to okay to REALLY bad. And Papa Bear. Man, what is the matter with having good dads in FNAF??
@@maisathedragonartist3364Yeah it's just that they pretty much don't exist or aren't in the story nor do we get any info on them like how they look,their views on their kids or even their marriages
Every other dad in FNaF: "horrible, terrible, do not like this" Glamrock Freddy: "Beautiful, perfect, would die for him, but he would rather die for me" Jokes aside, cool video as always!
Honestly, I'm going to give Bob from Bunny Call a solid 6.5/7 out of 10 in terms of dad-ness. He's not perfect but even his 'crime' was just supposed to be a harmless but ill-timed surprise as far as he knew. He puts in the effort for his family after his realization, and we're never told anything outright bad he does aside from some minor resentment
FIVE NIGHTS FIVE innocent LIVES I TOOK BEFORE THEIR TIME IT'S ALRIGHTY Ill be fine Even tho they DIED A part of them SURVIVED I'll make them unalive it's alright I'll be fine SAFE INSIDE
Five lives gone before they're time now theres a stain in mine yikes It's alright I'll be fine not sure I survived I don't think that I died I'm only half alive yikes it's alright I'll be fine stuck inside
Jake’s dad (Evan) from the story The Real Jake is genuinely one of the best dads in the franchise, and it’s almost inspiring how much you can tell he loves his son.
Susie and Samantha’s father from “Coming Home” sucks. He abandoned Sam and Patricia because he said it was “too hard”. He lost Susie and instead of cherishing the family he had left, he left them to deal with not only the pain of losing a child/sibling but also a spouse walking out, presumably never to be seen again! The only reason he was mentioned was because of the climax with the secret room! (And because they wanted to explain why he wasn’t there.) He’s not nearly as bad as Henry, but they both abandoned their child and wife when they were grieving too.
I remember the 'gutting a toy' scene from the Silver Eyes. It's when Charlie goes back to her house for the first time, I think. She remembers it along with seeing Baby in the corner when she finds an old screw in the ground. But it's not graphic novel exclusive.
The main character in In the Flesh is a great dad, he literally gave his life for his child! Anyways great vid as always, tbh I didn't know Clay was that bad, glad to have learned something! And yeah, Glamrock Freddy best dad, that ain't a surprise lol.
I personally never subscribed to the idea Elizabeth died first, mainly because if we wanted to use her room being empty as evidence for it then I feel like they wouldn't just have the room unlocked and still fully decorated with a dismantled toy on the ground. It's not that clear cut on if she is or is not dead before Crying Child, which in all honesty I still feel like there's a lot more pointing to CC being the BIG important death. Aside from Charlie who's entire existence and importance feels like a complete retcon that partially cannibalizes some stuff from CC's initial role. Anywho that tangent aside I still agree entirely with the general assessment that Afton is the WORST father and did not actually care about his kids in a remotely loving father way.
Yeah, same. I can see the argument for either, but I prefer CC dying first, as well as CC being the middle child. With the way that Elizabeth looks and sounds, it's unlikely that she'd be older than eight, if even that.
5:36 A fnaf theorist I like watching, impulse Evan, pointed this out. Henry's whole plan of just burning everything down was a horrible plan to begin with, and he only ensured that it would fail by ending himself alongside them.
This is actually part of why I like the Glammike theory. It's kinda poetic for Michael to have a horrible dad and then choose to do better by taling care of Gregory. I don't think it's canon, I just think it's a thematically perfect way to close off Michael's arc. It also gives him a bit of characterization that just doesn't exist within FNAF otherwise.
oswalds dad is seriously underaperciated all he did was move because of his job not his fault then he drops his son off at a pizzeria with money and told him he loves him its odwalds fault he nearly died
Edwin creating a mimic bot to play with his son while he works was a good idea, but the fact that he just leaves his son alone without proper supervision is what ended up leading his son to leave the garage and play in the street where he’s killed. Then beating the robot to “death” and not just dismantling or deactivating it at any point also leads to it becoming a killing machine literally.
Oswald’s Dad from the game version of Into the Pit is a pretty good dad. He’s not perfect like leaving Oswald alone in a cheap pizzeria while he goes out somewhere but he does care about his son greatly and we see how Oswald speaks fondly of him and hell, he’s that good of a father, his own son was willing to risk his own life to save him. If that doesn’t show how good of a dad Oswald’s dad is then I don’t know what will
Conclusion: fathers in FNaF are either horrible, nonexistent, or Glamrock Freddy. also, you really had to call me out like that at 3:19, didn’t you >:(
Evan from The Real Jake seems to be a good Dad, showing love to Jake and tries to cheer him up as Simon. There's also Larson and Dr. Talbert but I'm gonna leave that up to you.
Evan was great Larson was “formerly bad but becomes better” (and even bad is kinda a stretch, he was absent due to his job, but still cared about his son) where he was absent from his son due to his job and never spent time with him but literally fought a giant mecha serial killer just to save the city because his son lived there and so did many other children And talbert wasn’t great but he’s not the worst either but I’d definitely say he’s worse than Larson or Evan
I think it makes sense as to why Glamrock Freddy the way he is. He's the face of Fazbear entertainment and he's a children's mascot, an idol or father figure to them. So, whether it's part of his programing or not, it's understandable why he would be willing to help Gregory and caring about him throughout the events of Security Breach even if it means harming or sacrificing himself in the process. I believe that if Gregory were to be harmed while aiding him, Freddy probably wouldn't forgive himself for letting a child get hurt as he's very protective. Now sure, Freddy may also be that way because the virus wasn't able to corrupt him unlike Chica, Monty and Roxy. Heck, even Roxy became protective of Cassie when the mimic approached her after she was deactivated in Ruin. So yeah, it's really saying something when a robotic bear is a far better father than the human fathers in this series.
If any newer FNaF fans think Scott is addicted to bad dads because of the Fazbear Frights books well all of the bad fathers in those books are basically symbolic of Henry and Afton. There aren’t that many horrible dads connected to fediz fabl bar
Bit late to the party, but we also cannot forget the FNAF Movie's canon where Mr. Schmidt abandoned his son Mike and daughter Abby. Like blud, I get your other son and wife died and you were upset, but Mike was left to raise his little sister alone while not being able to keep a steady job, struggled with his guilt and was consistently tormented by his aunt over Abby's custody. From what we saw in the flashbacks, he seemed like a good dad, but that mention of his voluntary disappearance sours it a lot.
Sam's dad from Somniphobia seemed like a pretty good dad when he was still alive. Spent lots of quality time with his son and gave him important life lessons.
I love how, no matter how you feel about Security Breach, no matter if you feel making Glamrock Freddy an ally through and through was a good choice or not, everyone in the fnaf fandom collectively loves Glamrock Freddy.
Yeah, but the thing about that is that we don't know if Scott titled that or if it was Leon Riskin who did. I wasn't even aware of the title until some ost videos mentioned it recently, lol.
Glamrock Freddy being the one good father in the FNAF series reminds me of a post on Twitter where the OP says Freddy has been in their life longer than their father has 💀
I assumed the "steady voltage" wasn't put *into* the puppet, but functioned as sort of a tesla cage to isolate her and keep outside influences from her. Not that much better, but at least not directly inflicting pain?
Ironic, how is a robot animatronic has more worry, feelings, concern, logic, and more be more human and a father than actual human fathers in the FNAF universe?
If you think about it even Afton's own wickedness aka Shadow Freddy/Nightmare is a better father since it's confirmed to have led the children to the safe room to purposely free the souls from the suits
Honestly even tho his her brother Mike might as well be Abby's dad this dude went hell and back for her Glamrock Freddy also ties with Mike as father of the year this dude took ass beating after ass beating The other fathers either neglected their kids or used them as lab mice
Dude found a random homeless kid hiding with him and immediately did not hesitate to adopt them and go full papa bear even going against rules to hide Gregory and burning down his own home to take care of this random child even after they were rude to him during first impressions and harmed his friends. Be like freddy, be a himbo
While fnaf left a low bar for fathers Glamrock Freddy soars over it. He has genuine love and care even if technically he can't feel those things. And he will always be my favorite Fnaf character because of that. Also it's just nice to be able to like and trust an animatronic,cause everytime they do a twist villian the cards are either shown way too early (Baby) or they're basically signaling in the whole time so it's boring (Helpy in Ruin)
it’s still crazy that ALLL the human fathers suck, and the only father that doesn’t is a ROBOT BEAR who isn’t even an canonical adoptive father, AND the series was made by a father! (no hate to scott, he’s probably a amazing father)
The toy gutting scene happened in the novel too. I don't remember which one or the page, but i remember it said something about Charlie crying after crying out for him not to hurt the toy frog (which he proceeded to do immediately after for the sake of reusing the parts for something else). But another thing is that, while I understand his grief, I think that making a replacement is kind cruel to both Charlies. Definitely cruel to Robo-Charlie for reasons in the video, but also to the original child. Imagine getting killed and being replaced. Not your parent learning to live on or adopting a different child, but literally replacing you. Idk, I just think that's pretty messed up to do to the original Charlie as well (even if she might not know about it). And I agree, Glamrock Freddy is the best dad.
If Michael is Glamrock Freddy, that would make sense since he suffered the pain of William treating him like #### and chooses to be kind and not be like his dad!
With so many candidates for a list like this I can’t help but wonder if any of this comes from personal experience of Scott? If one of the themes is supposed to be “negligible parents and the child who cried wolf” I haven’t really seen or heard anything on ignorant or abusive mothers which seems a little strange
Oh boy, the reminder that Clay Burke was actually really incompetent really woke me up. He was so much better a parental figure than anyone else in the books I just considered him a 'good guy'. The thing is, it isn't just the fathers. Scott writes some of the shittiest protagonists and supporting cast, *consistently*. I get wanting a flawed, multi-dimensional, 'relatable' main cast- but almost all the Frights and a lot of the Tales books are full of characters that are really unlikable to frankly deplorable. SC swings too far the other direction with character flaws, he is too heavy handed with them. Makes it hard for me to read. I wouldn't treat people like that so I can't relate. I have notes on Henry- can't wait to see your video on him. I did some math and read up on some laws and think he might have been the one convicted in the game universe.
I dont think you have to relate to characters all the time tbh. But dang, these characters were flawed lmao. Maybe balancing out the flaws these characters have could've worked out in their favor. Then again, gotta remember that there's ghost writers working on these things too. So there's that.
@@soomi5667 I would think having multiple seasoned ghost writers would negate any subconscious trends, so I honestly think Scott made it a point to the writers that the characters are meant to be a-holes.
Maybe, but a lot of the characters might also fall into it to keep the plot going. For example, Jessica, Charlie's best friend, just buying Not Charlie is Charlie even though she is completely different just so that John (the love interest) can be the one who called it. But then it makes Jessica look dumb and John... somehow come off as really weird in the whole book, lol. It's less mandates and more 'this has to happen next'. I read once that a lot of Scholastics' ghost writers were fresh out of college and likely these would be their first projects if that was the case. Not saying I know better, but I am saying when you get your first job you want to play it safe.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476Yeah, there's no way in Hell that the majorituy of the Scholastic books were written by "seasoned ghost writers", because if nothing else, Scholastic does not pay well enough for that. It's very likely that a lot of the 'bad parents' in FNAF stem from valuing plot convenience and easy character-conflict. The bad father is a trope in-of-itself. I 100% side-eye Cawthon for how he treats his women and girl characters, though.
"Glamrock Freddy can Daddy me anytime." Can confirm: NotRealName is a daddy's girl! XD Jokes aside, when the ditzy, animatronic himbo bear is a better father than half the dads on this list, you know something is wrong. And yes, Glamrock Freddy is the best dad. You just know he'd be the type to fuss over his Superstar like a mother hen, and always doing his best to make sure his safe and happy. 🥰 It's a shame we never got the Shattered Freddy section of Security Breach, because *that* would have been tear inducing. 😭 And Jesus. I never realized how horrible Henry is. I mean....making traumatic memories for your robotic daughter? The potential for the false flyers with Sammy? It's clear that Scott didn't think about the implications of the robot Charlie twist when he came up with it. Although that does beg a question: are characters truly at fault for the terrible twists their creators involve them in? 🤔
Cassie's dad is in a hurry trying to stop a serial murder rabbit ai that may already have a hold on his mind/sanity. I wouldn't tell my kid that, if I don't come back they might come looking for me at the Plex.
Fair enough. Not only that, but in Help Wanted 2 when we get the default ending along with the "Celebrate" statue, it looks like mascot is trying to comfort Cassie, like a father figure would.
I wanna mention, after having recently re-read the second fnaf novel, the scene of Henry dismantling the toy is not graphic novel exlusive, in the book, it felt randomly thrown in, but it was in there.
Glamrock Freddy really is not just a Step Father, he's the definition of the Father who Stepped Up! You must've been _pretty_ tired when you wrote that one line about him "Daddy-ing" you, eh NotRealName? XD
Oh that line about Henry gutting the robot in front of Charlie? Yeah no, it's in the actual books too. Honestly in my opinion, it's WORSE in the books than the graphic novel. I mean, sure, in the graphic novel, we see faces and such. But in the books? Charlie is recalling witnessing this event. She is talking about the absolute bone chilling fear and disgust she felt, and her begging/pleading/crying/screaming for him to stop. It also makes her realize that the endoskeleton in the workshop could probably FEEL PAIN. I've said it before, I'll say it again: Henry and William are two sides of the same coin.
About the note Cassie's dad gave to Cassie, it sounds like he was in a rush when he wrote that. But the question is, why's the rush? Why was he rushing to the plex? (Now, parents have always left their kids hanging at times, and that doesn't mean that they don't love them or care enough for them, but it's just weird that he never tried to properly explain where he was going-) Heck, Cassie's dad wasn't even on her birthday while the plex was functional! Now, you could say that he tried to be on her birthday but he was at work, or he was called in during her birthday party and had to leave her alone, but dang! That sucks! (Can relate my dad doesn't really go to my birthdays either cuz he's always at work-)
I find Glamrock Freddy's role in Security Breach so _deliciously_ ironic.... Back from the beginning, when we found-out that the Four Animatronics trying to kill us were possessed by the spirits of dead-children, wrongfully killed before their time, desperately looking for their murderer to get their revenge and peace, it recontextualized _everything._ Suddenly the monsters trying to _kill us_ were more sympathetic than the player character. We felt sorry for them; we wanted _to help them._ From that moment on, the fanbase started churning out artwork and AU stories about how the animatronics could be reasoned with, and they instead _befriend_ the player as he helps them search for the Purple Guy so they can finally be put to rest. In a lot of ways, we wanted these characters to have some good in them - to have something redeemable. We wanted to have a game where we could root for these guys... Scott seemed desperate to _kill_ that notion with games like Fnaf 4 and Sister Location; no matter how sympathetic the animatroncis had been, there was no justifying them sneaking into a house, to try and _murder a kid._ And then Sister Location did a huge retcon, and established that the machines themselves were not only built to be murder-bots, but that they are also _body-snatching_ murder-bots at that... (And then everyone but me fell for the stupid Will-Trap vs Mike-Trap debate.) And yet now, with Sister Location, in this new era of the franchise, we seem to be getting closer to what the fans actually want. Our main protagonist is a kid, and Freddy Fazbear - the once Titular Villain of the franchise - is now our guardian, protecting us from the others. Freddy really does come-off like a dad in this game. And it's inspired fans to create AUs where the other Animatronics are friendly as well, and form a kind of "family-unit" for Gregory. Chica is the affectionate and caring older sister, while Roxy is the more aloof but well-meaning older sister, and Monty is the mischievous older brother. Maybe it's got to do with the fact that at it's core, Fnaf's story was all about one _broken_ family and how they all met their tragic ends; the fanbase could pick-up on what was needed was a family all along.
Well it was only those specific animatronics in sister location that were designed to be murder bots and I feel like Elizabeth was still sympathetic and desperate enough (though the body snatching was still screwed up) and the FNAF 4 animatronics weren’t possessed (it’s important to recognize different versions of the animatronics have different purposes and backstories, for example the toys and the withereds aren’t the same) so people should still root for classic Bonnie Chica and Freddy, and FNAF 6 gave them the (sorta) happy ending the community wanted for them (I find it strange you didn’t mention 6 in this comment)
As someone who was raised by an emotionally absent parent, yeah. Abuse is subtle sometimes. To quote my brother "Mum acts as though we're her best friends, but in that, she tells us things that you would and should never tell your kids"
For you point about Game Henry and the Puppet, I have some counterpoints. I don't believe that Henry used a full SL type shock, and I actually have evidence for it. And it comes from the same game, Fnaf 6. You see, in the salvage sections, if you shock the animitronics too much, it damages them. And as a consequence, you get paid less money. Why does this matter? Well, it is Henry that is behind the operation to bring and collect the scrap animitronics, and the one who made and funds the procedure. That means he is paying for the animitronics to be in as best condition as they can be. So he values the animitronics being intact. And the animitronics get damaged if they are hit with more than 3 shots from a taser. If the Puppet was being shocked constantly with the same intensity as SL, than they would *definitely be incredibly damaged*. Heck, the Puppet might catch on fire or explode at that point. Edit: also for the "putting them with their murderer" part, Lefty is actually the last animitronic that comes to the location. And given that Henry probably has some control over Lefty (at least in terms of luring them to the location, and not "don't attack Micheal"). So Henry actually arranged it so Charlie spent the least amount of time with Afton as possible. Also, since he was planning to off himself alongside the others and wanted to get rid of all haunted robots, I don't think that his delay was an ego trip
Though I agree, that book Henry sucks. Who seems to be at least a bit different from Game Henry, since Book Henry offed himself, while Game Henry kept on living and actually tried to stop Afton. (Also, some theorize that based on the newspapers from Fnaf 1, Game Henry was falsely convicted for the MCI. Thus why he only appears at the end in Fnaf 6)
You know. I've always thought about it. And maybe, Michael would be a good father. As his whole story is based around him trying to undo his father's mistakes. I can see him being a good dad (Not Exceptional, but he'd most definitely do his best) And "his best" would be as in, granting his child the love he never had, it could be to compensate for the years of neglect he endured or to make up for how badly he treated his little brother. But nonetheless, i have no doubt he'd give the world to at least guarantee his family would not be like his father's
In one fazbear frights story, there’s a single father who tries his best to take care of his toddler and buys him a toy to take care of him which kind of sucks but then the kid goes missing, and he searches for days for the kid, eventually finding him. Edit: it’s called The Cliffs, and it’s in the 7th one I think
You know you’ve messed up as a parent when a robotic bear who probably has no idea how to parent can raise a better child better then you 💀
Your pfp is adorable.
@@sweethistortea Tyyy!
i feel like FNAF is the only fandom in which this sentence can make sense
To be fair I don't know many dads better than Glamrock Freddy he's a very high bar to cross. It's just weird that he sets the standard so high
a robotic bear that also might have the spirit of an evil brother who has repented and had to deal with an evil father himself
I feel like Nightmare Freddy deserves an honorable mention. The Freddles and he make a great team. A family that scares together, stays together
Honestly the most of the Freddy's make for pretty good dads (tho Funtime/Molten Freddy is to unstable to be near a kid plus he would eat them like Baby since it's their programing)
Most Freddy’s are good father figures.
@@King_Kong-ZillaJust not Funtime/Molten Freddy he's to mentally unwell
@@monobro141 Facts.
@@monobro141 *PLEASE DEPOSIT. 5 COINS.*
Dude if a robot bear who has no idea of how to be a parent can raise a child better than you then it's time to throw in the towel💀💀💀💀
homestuck to fnaf pipeline going strong ❤❤
@@samthepancake69 I was actually a FNAF fan before I got into Homestuck so FNAF to Homestuck pipeline for me lol
@@Generalmituna8079 I was also a FNaF fan before I became a Homestuck fan
time to deletus the fetus and restart
For real
Tittle: All the fathers in FNAF sucks, exept for one.
Me: ... Is the damn robotic bear, isn't it?
Yea it is (＾ｖ＾)
who else would it be?
@@prcervi foxy...
He looks through the door to see if your ok
Yup
@@HorrorBiscuit13 and then he kills you with a jumpscare
Fnaf fathers are indeed awful, can confirm since my father is unfortunately William Afton
"That's Rough Buddy." ~Prince Zuko
That's rough buddy
Hell even his own WICKEDNESS Nightmare/Shadow Freddy Is a better father it's confirmed by the books to have led the animatronic to the safe room to free them (altough idk weather he feels sorry when he haunted you as Nightmare)
How does it feel to be responsible for why your dad's a murderer? Was it fun torturing your brother constantly without any guilt or remorse?
@@A.B.-ub9un Bro there's no evidence saying that Afton went into a spiral of madness for it's losts hell he was horrible since the start
"Glamrock Freddy can Daddy me anytime."
i understand. he is best dad.
In a universe where William never killed anyone, his kids would have most likely cut contact with him the moment they moved out.
He would’ve been in the retirement home so fast
William watching his kids leave the retirement home: Micheal! Elizebeth! Evan! Don’t leave me here!
William: why do my kids never come visit me
Michael: probably because your a dangerous sociopath with a large history of violence
William: oh
Elisabeth: i don't know how you keep forgetting
@@rorykirklnd8957 "I'm getting the rumblies that only child murder can satisfy."
@@justsomerandomperson6506Evan isn't canon
Greg’s uncle in Fetch was a solid father figure. He, being remotely decent, is rewarded with a surprise amputation
At least it was only a finger
But, he forgives Greg for the accidental amputation anyway (if my memory is correct)
@@memeboi69-k3v I don't think he finds out in the story. Unless he comes back in a later one.
Having glamrock Freddy being an ally was a nice way to subvert expectations.
Yea I remember thinking it was so stupid to have him be nice fsr, but kinda glad they didn’t do another circus baby. They instead were gonna have something actually heartbreaking.
Dude I'm so stupid because when I first read this I interpreted "Freddy being an ally" as meaning that he was canonically stated to support LGBTQ+ people
@@Spookfishspecter i mean canonically he probably is but gay robots is more interesting imo.
@@Spookfishspecter modern terminology has broke our brains.
He's pretty much the one thing I liked about Security Breach plus it's nice having Freddy back in the light after the Afton Family essentially stole it from him
"He may have been your father, he wasn't your daddy!" - Glamrock Freddy... probably
Mean reference i cried sooo bad
I’m Freddy Poppins Y’all!
I understood that reference.
Reminds me of this fanart where characters of FNAF all agree their dads suck, but Gregory is the only one that disagrees.
Yup
Link?
I've seen that one!
That's so cute, I'd love to see it
Kinda surprised you didn’t mention movie William, bro literally manipulates and STABS his daughter, not to mention it’s implied Vanessa watched him kill her friends
Father from hell
Zoinks
It's oddly poetic that a variant of the mascot for this horror series is the kindest and most gentle dad of the whole selection.
A real Papa Bear.
True. “Superstars, ROLL-OUT!”
Best 3 dads in FNAF: 1-Nightmare Freddy: literally, if you make his children cry, he will come and tear you in half. 2-Freddy in Freddy in Space: he faces multiple threats, gathers his band, and gets in shape just to save his son. 3-Glamrock Freddy.
Overall, it's funny that, unironically, the best father in FNAF is Freddy himself and multiple versions of him, including one that is a literal killing machine.
And they are all Freddy
I'm still extremely surprised how consistant the concept of Freddy being a dad is, both in and outside the universe of the games.
I wonder if is somehow canon that the character of Freddy is a father inside the universe of FNAF.
@despinasgarden.4100 I mean this isn't canon to the mainline games but Freddy does have a son in Freddy in Space 2
Freddy is just a dad.
@@despinasgarden.4100makes me wonder if Helpy was fazbear entertainments attempt to make an animatronic of Freddy’s son (since he’s the only considerably smaller bear animatronic to freddy)
@@hazakurasuyama9016oh my god that makes so much sense!!
Best father in FNAF is Nightmare Freddy to the Freddle’s.
Unironically might be top 5 just because the standards are so low
And Shadow Freddy/Nightmare for leading the children to the safe room to free the spirits
@@marioblaze2723though, they may actually be helping Afton.
See Sire Squacks video: Is Shadow Freddy William's Stand?
And yes, it is an actually serious video
@@tinaherr3856 Oh i've already watched it it's an amazing video altough the Fnaf Guide book when talking about the Shadows from Fnaf 2 It says that they wanted to free the spirits from the suits and Afton had no idea It was Shadow Freddy that lead them in the Safe Room (altough Shadow Freddy might be a *little* spiteful towards Michael and that's why we have Nightmare)
@@marioblaze2723 Nightmare could also be really spiteful to the Crying Child as well, especially if we go down the route of Nightmare being a sort of embodiment of death (what I think). Well either that or Nightmare also just wants "de Child" to pass on too. Either of them or it's just flat out non-existent, nothing really has a solid answer anymore with FNaF lore.
I can now imagine Glamrock Freddy being like “aww come on, I am not that great” before opening his stomach hatch to reveal tons of ice cream for gregory’s birthday party
I'm now wondering which came first: Henry deciding to teach his robot daughter that it was actually his _wife's_ favourite child who got brutally murdered; or his wife taking Sam and getting as far away from him as possible.
My guess is the wife taking Sam, because Henry's state of mind would have turned on her for abandoning him even if it was the right choice at the time because he lost it, and that it wouldn't make sense as a false memory if Sammy and the mom was still in the picture. If Henry was able to implant false memories but his wife and other child still were with him, he would have still been nuts but would need a different false memory to make the robot Charlie convinced she was real. It just wouldn't have worked otherwise, and Henry doesn't strike me as the type to make a stray insult to his other family members before they left/if they never left as opposed to after they left. If they stayed with him even in his madness, Henry might not have actually ended himself and could have stayed more stable, but his family was not obligated to stay because he's literally playing God from grief.
In the book it's implied that she "forgot", because she was so young when it happened.
Fnaf dads are like Anime dads: If they are a good dad, then they’re about to be a dead dad. If they’re an alive dad, then they’re definitely a bad dad
Or are nowhere to be seen.
Makes sense why the worst of the worst “always comes back” then, he’s always gonna be a bad dad as he’s always gonna be alive (at least until the dumb mimic retcon)
Except Shikamaru's father
@@hazakurasuyama9016MIMIC SWEEEEEP
And then there's enji. He was at first fine. Until he wasn't. Until he started to get better.
Really funny to me how the only good dad is not even human, it would be almost poetic if it was on purpose
Oswald's Dad was a good Dad in Into the Pit. But nobody is touching Glamrock Freddy as Best Dad. It's most unfortunate that a literal robot is better Dad than the majority of the Dads in the FNAF Universe but it is what it is. You can't expect good Dads to be present in a franchise that's built on the murders and desecration of remains of multiple children, after all.
I dunno, seems like he could have got his kid into camp, a summer theatre production, some weekly art classes, or even arranged with old school friends’ parents to do a couple of visits over the summer. Not all these options cost a lot, and a lot cost less than restaurant dining every day
Anything is better than getting your kid to essentially wait in the library (and this is before public libraries got noisy and cool) for a month and a half. Even if that was the default, Oswald would’ve been far less resentful and miserable had he had a couple of things to look forward to in the new town.
He named him Oswald
@@highbrow2373HEY NOW, maybe Oswald’s MOM named him that
@@tobysinbad In the ITP game, Oswalds dad actually realizes this.
One thing the William and Elizabeth segment made me realize is that he absolutely could have made it so Baby couldn’t hurt Elizabeth, since the Funtimes and Toys have programming meant to track kids/adults and target specific people, so he could have his family on a Never Target list.
But because of his narcissism, he didn’t believe Elizabeth wouldn’t ever disobey him and he deluded himself into thinking that his kid killing robot somehow wouldn’t kill his own kid.
That or he purposefully told his daughter that the murder robot is made for her and then told her last minute to not go near it so that in case he gets caught or smth, he can act like he didn't mean for her to die
Glamrocky freddy should fight every other fnaf dad for custody of their children. It's the only good outcome.
Glammike? Nah, I want GFreddt RAISING Mike.
That's an awesome idea
He gets joint custody with some of the other Freddies
Henry is such an odd character for me, cause like, I can see the pieces of him TRYING to be a good father, but he also put his daughter in a torture machine so he could set her on fire without her fighting back (man lefty sounds horrid when you put it blunt)
Totally. He strikes me as the kind of guy to put effort into 'being a good dad', but without the self-awareness needed to not hurt his child(ren) through his absent-minded actions and inaction. He just doesn't think ANYTHING through, methinks.
Me when I'm in a worst dad competition and my opponents are the founders of Fredbear's Family Diner
I see it as some form of "the ends justify the means". He puts her through the torture of Lefty, but because he knows it will be beneficial for her in the end.
It's a twisted form of parent care. In my opnion, this only strengthens Henry's character as a flawed person.
@@diarawisteria2218 ow
You know for a fact Freddy would be walking Gregory to and from school like the responsible papa bear he is.
He also helps with homework and rewards good grades with ice cream
All As Gregory gets would go on the fridge, and any A+s would get gold stars
I find it funny that the only good father (in the games) isn't even human
The irony arrives to be entered
Just shows how much humans suck
Its pretty crazy how Nightmare Freddy is a better dad than William and Henry. Like, he's a mechanical abomination who may not be real, out to kill a child ans he sends out his mini-me's to swarm the bed. Yet the spooky bear is still a better dad by comparison.
All the papa bears in FNAF are strangely good dads.
i can picture nightmare freddy teaching his kids that the key to nailing a great scare is teamwork .
Freddy’s not the step-dad.
He’s the Dad who stepped up!
Let's see. We got Literal Abusive Psycopath
Victimized Bum that everyone tries to paint as a hero
Neglectful Officer
Parent we know absolutely nothing about yet everyone and their mother insists is the greatest character in FNAF history
All sorts of fathers that range from good to okay to REALLY bad.
And Papa Bear.
Man, what is the matter with having good dads in FNAF??
They used them as lab mice and don't even start on the moms
@@monobro141
Wait, theres mothers in fnaf universe???
@@maisathedragonartist3364Yeah it's just that they pretty much don't exist or aren't in the story nor do we get any info on them like how they look,their views on their kids or even their marriages
@@monobro141 What moms?
@@tonysonic456Exactly because THEY'RE NEVER THERE
Every other dad in FNaF: "horrible, terrible, do not like this"
Glamrock Freddy: "Beautiful, perfect, would die for him, but he would rather die for me"
Jokes aside, cool video as always!
The dad in The Real Jake was solid. Was deployed and spent what little time he had to cheer his son up and give him hope to live.😢
Yeah… I swear that story just gets me, it’s so tragic
Honestly, I'm going to give Bob from Bunny Call a solid 6.5/7 out of 10 in terms of dad-ness. He's not perfect but even his 'crime' was just supposed to be a harmless but ill-timed surprise as far as he knew. He puts in the effort for his family after his realization, and we're never told anything outright bad he does aside from some minor resentment
Best representation of William as a father was in the song “stuck inside”, the example; “I’ve been away too long”
OMG I LOVE THAT SONG!
FIVE NIGHTS
FIVE innocent LIVES
I TOOK BEFORE THEIR TIME
IT'S ALRIGHTY Ill be fine
Even tho they DIED
A part of them SURVIVED
I'll make them unalive it's alright I'll be fine
SAFE INSIDE
Yikes!
Five lives gone before they're time now theres a stain in mine yikes It's alright I'll be fine not sure I survived I don't think that I died I'm only half alive yikes it's alright I'll be fine stuck inside
So basically this video is just discussing the FNAF franchise’s daddy issues? I’m so in, NotRealName
Funny how the only good father in the franchise is a animatronic bear 😅.
NOT enough people are talking about "glamrock freddy can daddy me any time." Iconic line
Happy Father’s Day Glamrock Freddy
Jake’s dad (Evan) from the story The Real Jake is genuinely one of the best dads in the franchise, and it’s almost inspiring how much you can tell he loves his son.
Yup and it’s almost like Jake just gives up and succumbs to cancer after his death, even if he wasn’t aware of his death at the time
Susie and Samantha’s father from “Coming Home” sucks. He abandoned Sam and Patricia because he said it was “too hard”. He lost Susie and instead of cherishing the family he had left, he left them to deal with not only the pain of losing a child/sibling but also a spouse walking out, presumably never to be seen again! The only reason he was mentioned was because of the climax with the secret room! (And because they wanted to explain why he wasn’t there.) He’s not nearly as bad as Henry, but they both abandoned their child and wife when they were grieving too.
"Glamrock Freddy can daddy me any time" needs to go into a NotaName out of context compilation
I remember the 'gutting a toy' scene from the Silver Eyes. It's when Charlie goes back to her house for the first time, I think. She remembers it along with seeing Baby in the corner when she finds an old screw in the ground. But it's not graphic novel exclusive.
Came here to say this
The main character in In the Flesh is a great dad, he literally gave his life for his child!
Anyways great vid as always, tbh I didn't know Clay was that bad, glad to have learned something!
And yeah, Glamrock Freddy best dad, that ain't a surprise lol.
Clay isn't exactly bad, but he does have some big issues that he needs to work out. Which, to his credit, he does seem to get better in the books.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 do the vid on chica
@@notrealnamenotatall2476what is it with cops in this franchise and starting off as bad fathers but becoming better by the end
I personally never subscribed to the idea Elizabeth died first, mainly because if we wanted to use her room being empty as evidence for it then I feel like they wouldn't just have the room unlocked and still fully decorated with a dismantled toy on the ground.
It's not that clear cut on if she is or is not dead before Crying Child, which in all honesty I still feel like there's a lot more pointing to CC being the BIG important death. Aside from Charlie who's entire existence and importance feels like a complete retcon that partially cannibalizes some stuff from CC's initial role.
Anywho that tangent aside I still agree entirely with the general assessment that Afton is the WORST father and did not actually care about his kids in a remotely loving father way.
Yeah, same. I can see the argument for either, but I prefer CC dying first, as well as CC being the middle child. With the way that Elizabeth looks and sounds, it's unlikely that she'd be older than eight, if even that.
5:36
A fnaf theorist I like watching, impulse Evan, pointed this out.
Henry's whole plan of just burning everything down was a horrible plan to begin with, and he only ensured that it would fail by ending himself alongside them.
That was like a Henry Stickmin level plan, honestly. XD
@@notrealnamenotatall2476
Hmm... HENRY Emily, HENRY Stickmin... I THINK I HAVE A THEORY!!!
@@DaveMiller6042I’m sorry but your choice of words have triggered an involuntary response…
A GAAAAAAMMMEEEE THEOOORRYYY
@@soundwave6366I understand
I just love Notrealnames Sass and salt about Fnaf dads.
This is actually part of why I like the Glammike theory. It's kinda poetic for Michael to have a horrible dad and then choose to do better by taling care of Gregory. I don't think it's canon, I just think it's a thematically perfect way to close off Michael's arc. It also gives him a bit of characterization that just doesn't exist within FNAF otherwise.
I like how Freddy basically went "Oh, a child...
...I guess I'm a dad now." And instantly became #1 dad.
oswalds dad is seriously underaperciated
all he did was move because of his job not his fault then he drops his son off at a pizzeria with money and told him he loves him its odwalds fault he nearly died
I agree, he's definitely one of the few good fathers
@@wooptycloud9044 exactly
Oswald’s dad isn’t even let into the bad dads competition
@@anti-usernamesaltaccount3623 a travisty huge let down
Oswald didn't even know that would happen.
Edwin creating a mimic bot to play with his son while he works was a good idea, but the fact that he just leaves his son alone without proper supervision is what ended up leading his son to leave the garage and play in the street where he’s killed. Then beating the robot to “death” and not just dismantling or deactivating it at any point also leads to it becoming a killing machine literally.
Man made a ton of mistakes and only realized later down the line. It's kinda tragic tbh.
He's basically the second coming of Henry, except William Afton was the speeding car... okay, that sounds bad, but let me explain-
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 MA'AM THAT'S COLD 😭
And this is why the mimic sucks as a villain… it’s literally a victim
@@hazakurasuyama9016 Honestly i don't see what's wrong with that. He goes from a victim to the perpetrator. I think its poetic in a way lol.
Oswald’s Dad from the game version of Into the Pit is a pretty good dad. He’s not perfect like leaving Oswald alone in a cheap pizzeria while he goes out somewhere but he does care about his son greatly and we see how Oswald speaks fondly of him and hell, he’s that good of a father, his own son was willing to risk his own life to save him. If that doesn’t show how good of a dad Oswald’s dad is then I don’t know what will
Conclusion: fathers in FNaF are either horrible, nonexistent, or Glamrock Freddy.
also, you really had to call me out like that at 3:19, didn’t you >:(
Even when you're praising Freddy as a shining exakple of fatherhood, you still use Derp Freddy. Never change, Naughty.
Evan from The Real Jake seems to be a good Dad, showing love to Jake and tries to cheer him up as Simon.
There's also Larson and Dr. Talbert but I'm gonna leave that up to you.
Evan was great
Larson was “formerly bad but becomes better” (and even bad is kinda a stretch, he was absent due to his job, but still cared about his son) where he was absent from his son due to his job and never spent time with him but literally fought a giant mecha serial killer just to save the city because his son lived there and so did many other children
And talbert wasn’t great but he’s not the worst either but I’d definitely say he’s worse than Larson or Evan
@@hazakurasuyama9016 true.
It’s ironic how fnaf fathers suck because Scott went offline to be with his family more than from what we parasoctioaly know he’s a good dad
I think it makes sense as to why Glamrock Freddy the way he is. He's the face of Fazbear entertainment and he's a children's mascot, an idol or father figure to them. So, whether it's part of his programing or not, it's understandable why he would be willing to help Gregory and caring about him throughout the events of Security Breach even if it means harming or sacrificing himself in the process. I believe that if Gregory were to be harmed while aiding him, Freddy probably wouldn't forgive himself for letting a child get hurt as he's very protective. Now sure, Freddy may also be that way because the virus wasn't able to corrupt him unlike Chica, Monty and Roxy.
Heck, even Roxy became protective of Cassie when the mimic approached her after she was deactivated in Ruin.
So yeah, it's really saying something when a robotic bear is a far better father than the human fathers in this series.
Glamrocky Freddy is a better dad than my real, actual father.
This is why Glamrock Freddy is my favorite fnaf character!
If any newer FNaF fans think Scott is addicted to bad dads because of the Fazbear Frights books well all of the bad fathers in those books are basically symbolic of Henry and Afton. There aren’t that many horrible dads connected to fediz fabl bar
Bit late to the party, but we also cannot forget the FNAF Movie's canon where Mr. Schmidt abandoned his son Mike and daughter Abby. Like blud, I get your other son and wife died and you were upset, but Mike was left to raise his little sister alone while not being able to keep a steady job, struggled with his guilt and was consistently tormented by his aunt over Abby's custody.
From what we saw in the flashbacks, he seemed like a good dad, but that mention of his voluntary disappearance sours it a lot.
"Okay I get it! All your fathers suck!
Gregory: Mine doesn't! My dad's f*cking awesome
Sam's dad from Somniphobia seemed like a pretty good dad when he was still alive. Spent lots of quality time with his son and gave him important life lessons.
I love how, no matter how you feel about Security Breach, no matter if you feel making Glamrock Freddy an ally through and through was a good choice or not, everyone in the fnaf fandom collectively loves Glamrock Freddy.
This video is Nightmare Freddy erasure I am sure he is a good father to the freddles
Wish Glamrock Freddy was my dad.
I think the goth girl's grandpa was a good father figure (Count the ways,)
Millie's grandpa tried his best
(Her actual parents idk as they moved to another country, but it was only for a year so)
FNAF 6's credits music is named "Necessary Evil," so it doesn't seem like Scott wanted Henry to be a truly good guy but needed him for the conclusion.
Yeah, but the thing about that is that we don't know if Scott titled that or if it was Leon Riskin who did. I wasn't even aware of the title until some ost videos mentioned it recently, lol.
Also tbf, the shock thing might refer to the music box not the puppet itself
Though Henry is definitely the lesser of 2 evils compared to William…
Glamrock Freddy being the one good father in the FNAF series reminds me of a post on Twitter where the OP says Freddy has been in their life longer than their father has 💀
Dam 💀
someone once said "hazbin hotel and helluva boss are just daddy issues the saga!"
im gonna start saying that about fnaf! XD
When a robot bear is the only good father you know something is wrong lol
That's just sad that a piece of METAL can take better care of children then some grown ass adults
@@monobro141 more like plastic with some really advanced ai
I assumed the "steady voltage" wasn't put *into* the puppet, but functioned as sort of a tesla cage to isolate her and keep outside influences from her. Not that much better, but at least not directly inflicting pain?
Ironic, how is a robot animatronic has more worry, feelings, concern, logic, and more be more human and a father than actual human fathers in the FNAF universe?
If you think about it even Afton's own wickedness aka Shadow Freddy/Nightmare is a better father since it's confirmed to have led the children to the safe room to purposely free the souls from the suits
Honestly even tho his her brother Mike might as well be Abby's dad this dude went hell and back for her
Glamrock Freddy also ties with Mike as father of the year this dude took ass beating after ass beating
The other fathers either neglected their kids or used them as lab mice
Dude found a random homeless kid hiding with him and immediately did not hesitate to adopt them and go full papa bear even going against rules to hide Gregory and burning down his own home to take care of this random child even after they were rude to him during first impressions and harmed his friends. Be like freddy, be a himbo
I do hope Scott himself has a healthy relationship with his old man...
While fnaf left a low bar for fathers Glamrock Freddy soars over it. He has genuine love and care even if technically he can't feel those things. And he will always be my favorite Fnaf character because of that. Also it's just nice to be able to like and trust an animatronic,cause everytime they do a twist villian the cards are either shown way too early (Baby) or they're basically signaling in the whole time so it's boring (Helpy in Ruin)
11:25 Cassie's Dad was crammed into Maskbot, NOT Mapbot. There IS an important distinction to be made there.
it’s still crazy that ALLL the human fathers suck, and the only father that doesn’t is a ROBOT BEAR who isn’t even an canonical adoptive father, AND the series was made by a father! (no hate to scott, he’s probably a amazing father)
Calling William a piece of trash / garbage and a monster is a DISGRACE to ACTUAL trash, garbage and monsters!!
And to think there’s people even more evil than him in the real world
Its the premise of the whole franchise: Bad Fathers ruin lives
The toy gutting scene happened in the novel too. I don't remember which one or the page, but i remember it said something about Charlie crying after crying out for him not to hurt the toy frog (which he proceeded to do immediately after for the sake of reusing the parts for something else). But another thing is that, while I understand his grief, I think that making a replacement is kind cruel to both Charlies. Definitely cruel to Robo-Charlie for reasons in the video, but also to the original child. Imagine getting killed and being replaced. Not your parent learning to live on or adopting a different child, but literally replacing you. Idk, I just think that's pretty messed up to do to the original Charlie as well (even if she might not know about it).
And I agree, Glamrock Freddy is the best dad.
If Michael is Glamrock Freddy, that would make sense since he suffered the pain of William treating him like #### and chooses to be kind and not be like his dad!
Gotta give it up to fnaf for giving us that terrible father rep. Honestly I love how it's a trend at this point LMAO.
With so many candidates for a list like this I can’t help but wonder if any of this comes from personal experience of Scott? If one of the themes is supposed to be “negligible parents and the child who cried wolf” I haven’t really seen or heard anything on ignorant or abusive mothers which seems a little strange
Oh boy, the reminder that Clay Burke was actually really incompetent really woke me up. He was so much better a parental figure than anyone else in the books I just considered him a 'good guy'.
The thing is, it isn't just the fathers. Scott writes some of the shittiest protagonists and supporting cast, *consistently*.
I get wanting a flawed, multi-dimensional, 'relatable' main cast- but almost all the Frights and a lot of the Tales books are full of characters that are really unlikable to frankly deplorable. SC swings too far the other direction with character flaws, he is too heavy handed with them.
Makes it hard for me to read. I wouldn't treat people like that so I can't relate.
I have notes on Henry- can't wait to see your video on him. I did some math and read up on some laws and think he might have been the one convicted in the game universe.
I dont think you have to relate to characters all the time tbh. But dang, these characters were flawed lmao.
Maybe balancing out the flaws these characters have could've worked out in their favor. Then again, gotta remember that there's ghost writers working on these things too. So there's that.
@@soomi5667 I would think having multiple seasoned ghost writers would negate any subconscious trends, so I honestly think Scott made it a point to the writers that the characters are meant to be a-holes.
@@Hex.A.Decimal You could be right! Scott honestly could've told them to make them unlikable tbh lol.
Maybe, but a lot of the characters might also fall into it to keep the plot going. For example, Jessica, Charlie's best friend, just buying Not Charlie is Charlie even though she is completely different just so that John (the love interest) can be the one who called it. But then it makes Jessica look dumb and John... somehow come off as really weird in the whole book, lol.
It's less mandates and more 'this has to happen next'. I read once that a lot of Scholastics' ghost writers were fresh out of college and likely these would be their first projects if that was the case. Not saying I know better, but I am saying when you get your first job you want to play it safe.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476Yeah, there's no way in Hell that the majorituy of the Scholastic books were written by "seasoned ghost writers", because if nothing else, Scholastic does not pay well enough for that. It's very likely that a lot of the 'bad parents' in FNAF stem from valuing plot convenience and easy character-conflict. The bad father is a trope in-of-itself. I 100% side-eye Cawthon for how he treats his women and girl characters, though.
I'll never understand how fazbear entertainment is still a function business.?
They're paying the government with the money they make from their $99 tacos
They’re definitely running a money laundering scheme
Because of the power of da Freddy Fazbear
"Glamrock Freddy can Daddy me anytime." Can confirm: NotRealName is a daddy's girl! XD
Jokes aside, when the ditzy, animatronic himbo bear is a better father than half the dads on this list, you know something is wrong. And yes, Glamrock Freddy is the best dad. You just know he'd be the type to fuss over his Superstar like a mother hen, and always doing his best to make sure his safe and happy. 🥰
It's a shame we never got the Shattered Freddy section of Security Breach, because *that* would have been tear inducing. 😭
And Jesus. I never realized how horrible Henry is. I mean....making traumatic memories for your robotic daughter? The potential for the false flyers with Sammy? It's clear that Scott didn't think about the implications of the robot Charlie twist when he came up with it. Although that does beg a question: are characters truly at fault for the terrible twists their creators involve them in? 🤔
Cassie's dad is in a hurry trying to stop a serial murder rabbit ai that may already have a hold on his mind/sanity. I wouldn't tell my kid that, if I don't come back they might come looking for me at the Plex.
Fair enough. Not only that, but in Help Wanted 2 when we get the default ending along with the "Celebrate" statue, it looks like mascot is trying to comfort Cassie, like a father figure would.
I wanna mention, after having recently re-read the second fnaf novel, the scene of Henry dismantling the toy is not graphic novel exlusive, in the book, it felt randomly thrown in, but it was in there.
Thank you! I didn't read the entirity of the Twisted Ones, so I didn't recall if it was or not.
Glamrock Freddy really is not just a Step Father, he's the definition of the Father who Stepped Up!
You must've been _pretty_ tired when you wrote that one line about him "Daddy-ing" you, eh NotRealName? XD
Oh that line about Henry gutting the robot in front of Charlie? Yeah no, it's in the actual books too. Honestly in my opinion, it's WORSE in the books than the graphic novel. I mean, sure, in the graphic novel, we see faces and such. But in the books? Charlie is recalling witnessing this event. She is talking about the absolute bone chilling fear and disgust she felt, and her begging/pleading/crying/screaming for him to stop. It also makes her realize that the endoskeleton in the workshop could probably FEEL PAIN. I've said it before, I'll say it again: Henry and William are two sides of the same coin.
The title speaks for itself
About the note Cassie's dad gave to Cassie, it sounds like he was in a rush when he wrote that. But the question is, why's the rush? Why was he rushing to the plex?
(Now, parents have always left their kids hanging at times, and that doesn't mean that they don't love them or care enough for them, but it's just weird that he never tried to properly explain where he was going-)
Heck, Cassie's dad wasn't even on her birthday while the plex was functional! Now, you could say that he tried to be on her birthday but he was at work, or he was called in during her birthday party and had to leave her alone, but dang! That sucks!
(Can relate my dad doesn't really go to my birthdays either cuz he's always at work-)
I find Glamrock Freddy's role in Security Breach so _deliciously_ ironic....
Back from the beginning, when we found-out that the Four Animatronics trying to kill us were possessed by the spirits of dead-children, wrongfully killed before their time, desperately looking for their murderer to get their revenge and peace, it recontextualized _everything._
Suddenly the monsters trying to _kill us_ were more sympathetic than the player character. We felt sorry for them; we wanted _to help them._
From that moment on, the fanbase started churning out artwork and AU stories about how the animatronics could be reasoned with, and they instead _befriend_ the player as he helps them search for the Purple Guy so they can finally be put to rest.
In a lot of ways, we wanted these characters to have some good in them - to have something redeemable. We wanted to have a game where we could root for these guys...
Scott seemed desperate to _kill_ that notion with games like Fnaf 4 and Sister Location; no matter how sympathetic the animatroncis had been, there was no justifying them sneaking into a house, to try and _murder a kid._ And then Sister Location did a huge retcon, and established that the machines themselves were not only built to be murder-bots, but that they are also _body-snatching_ murder-bots at that... (And then everyone but me fell for the stupid Will-Trap vs Mike-Trap debate.)
And yet now, with Sister Location, in this new era of the franchise, we seem to be getting closer to what the fans actually want. Our main protagonist is a kid, and Freddy Fazbear - the once Titular Villain of the franchise - is now our guardian, protecting us from the others. Freddy really does come-off like a dad in this game. And it's inspired fans to create AUs where the other Animatronics are friendly as well, and form a kind of "family-unit" for Gregory. Chica is the affectionate and caring older sister, while Roxy is the more aloof but well-meaning older sister, and Monty is the mischievous older brother.
Maybe it's got to do with the fact that at it's core, Fnaf's story was all about one _broken_ family and how they all met their tragic ends; the fanbase could pick-up on what was needed was a family all along.
Well it was only those specific animatronics in sister location that were designed to be murder bots and I feel like Elizabeth was still sympathetic and desperate enough (though the body snatching was still screwed up) and the FNAF 4 animatronics weren’t possessed (it’s important to recognize different versions of the animatronics have different purposes and backstories, for example the toys and the withereds aren’t the same) so people should still root for classic Bonnie Chica and Freddy, and FNAF 6 gave them the (sorta) happy ending the community wanted for them (I find it strange you didn’t mention 6 in this comment)
As someone who was raised by an emotionally absent parent, yeah. Abuse is subtle sometimes.
To quote my brother "Mum acts as though we're her best friends, but in that, she tells us things that you would and should never tell your kids"
For you point about Game Henry and the Puppet, I have some counterpoints. I don't believe that Henry used a full SL type shock, and I actually have evidence for it. And it comes from the same game, Fnaf 6.
You see, in the salvage sections, if you shock the animitronics too much, it damages them. And as a consequence, you get paid less money. Why does this matter?
Well, it is Henry that is behind the operation to bring and collect the scrap animitronics, and the one who made and funds the procedure.
That means he is paying for the animitronics to be in as best condition as they can be. So he values the animitronics being intact.
And the animitronics get damaged if they are hit with more than 3 shots from a taser. If the Puppet was being shocked constantly with the same intensity as SL, than they would *definitely be incredibly damaged*. Heck, the Puppet might catch on fire or explode at that point.
Edit: also for the "putting them with their murderer" part, Lefty is actually the last animitronic that comes to the location. And given that Henry probably has some control over Lefty (at least in terms of luring them to the location, and not "don't attack Micheal"). So Henry actually arranged it so Charlie spent the least amount of time with Afton as possible. Also, since he was planning to off himself alongside the others and wanted to get rid of all haunted robots, I don't think that his delay was an ego trip
Though I agree, that book Henry sucks. Who seems to be at least a bit different from Game Henry, since Book Henry offed himself, while Game Henry kept on living and actually tried to stop Afton.
(Also, some theorize that based on the newspapers from Fnaf 1, Game Henry was falsely convicted for the MCI. Thus why he only appears at the end in Fnaf 6)
The unused voice line of Freddy talking about the shirts to Gregory is so wholesome I wished it made the cut
You know. I've always thought about it. And maybe, Michael would be a good father. As his whole story is based around him trying to undo his father's mistakes. I can see him being a good dad (Not Exceptional, but he'd most definitely do his best)
And "his best" would be as in, granting his child the love he never had, it could be to compensate for the years of neglect he endured or to make up for how badly he treated his little brother. But nonetheless, i have no doubt he'd give the world to at least guarantee his family would not be like his father's
I definitely think Michael had a chance to have a happy family if he had gotten away from the Afton pit of sinking hope. It's a shame he didn't. 😔
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Our boy deserved better than to just be William's escape goat and clean-up service 😔
If the Glammike theory turns out to be true, then that means that Michael has broken the cycle of abuse.
Haven't watched the video yet, but the best father in all of FNAF is definitely Nightmare Freddy.
In one fazbear frights story, there’s a single father who tries his best to take care of his toddler and buys him a toy to take care of him which kind of sucks but then the kid goes missing, and he searches for days for the kid, eventually finding him.
Edit: it’s called The Cliffs, and it’s in the 7th one I think