"But god I'm definitely not going to let myself to be lectured to about morality or integrity by people that think that Donald Trump is a good person." - I think this closing line really summed it up for me.
You didn’t lie, you just forgot to let him know that if he actually wanted the money, he had to put in the work of contacting those charities and tell them he wanted to rescind the donations.
@@yourpal_austin I think giving the money to him would be giving them far too big a win. The paradox of tolerance shows you were, if not in the right, completely justified.
Conservatives deep down believe that they are gigantic pieces of shit and that liberals are the good guys, so it pisses them off when "liberals" do something that makes them look bad. They know they're terrible, so they react poorly when their betters don't fit in with their false dichotomy they've constructed in their heads. Conservatives see other conservatives do terrible things and to them that's normal.
I'm so sick and tired of liberals being held to ridiculous standards. You've got conservatives who don't hold themselves or their politicians to any standard, then require perfection from liberals if they try to argue any point. We should absolutely stop being that hard on each other. Also daring someone on TikTok can't be a legally binding contract, can it?
I feel that, leftist infighting can be pretty nauseating and can come off counter productive, and then conservatives can routinely just lie or say awful offensive things and they will never check each other, until money comes into play
Just speaking their language 😂 can't get thru to them without lying grifting and trolling. Screw these conservatives they do this exact shot all the time to the detriment of many people
Something tells me a lot of people don’t really know what they’re talking about when they throw around words like “ethics” and “morals” in such a binary and smug way. I’ve spent a lot of time studying ethics, and the biggest takeaway is that it’s REALLY complicated, and the shorter the appeal to moral absolutism, the more likely it is someone is being disingenuous. Keep living your beet life, fellow exmo!!❤️
I always thought it was quite simple. "Do unto others" seems to sum it up quite nicely. Jesus said it, Budda said it, Confucius said it. And it's a thing conservatives can't quite grasp.
@@darkhobobass principles are simple but when it comes to applying nuance to ethical and moral discussions, a lot of people just turn off their brain and resort to simplistic thinking where it’s not needed.
It wasn’t until I asked why? And studied psychology and neuroscience until I built a real foundation. We teach surface level morality without explaining the mechanisms behind them and wonder why people become doubtful. Similar to how it always back fires when they try to teach about drugs and sex while leaving out information. Of course people are going to become distrustful. But honestly I doubt half those teachers could even explain themselves.
@@darkhobo Nope, and that's why ethics is complex. See, imagine you are fundamentally a BAD person. Let's say you're a priest and you have... predilections. Of the illegal kind. Then believe, very sincerely, that the only reason you wouldn't act on that is because you don't want to go to hell. You don't even THINK about the child in that equation, either. You only can think of yourself, and have no theory of mind and can't tell that other people DON'T usually have those thoughts, you think they're all monsters who are one religious leash away from acting out on that. So then "do unto others as you would want" warps drastically into "I would want to be stopped from being a monster so I don't go to hell for doing what I want to do instead of what makes sure I go to Heaven", and that's how you have hypocrites assuming atheists are as depraved as they are and willing to act on it since they don't have hell to scare them out of doing it. (Disclaimer, most christians I know aren't unhinged like that, but I've seen televangelists that need to go on the sex offender register for the self-reports on their thoughts they've said on air while grasping at straws to explain why pokemon designs are evil, and that's the broken logic they use.) Ethics is building a framework that doesn't rely on empathy or theory of mind and that accomodates for times where bending the rules is good, and the distinction between good, moral, and legal. Ethics also asks, "I can do this, but SHOULD I do it", and considers unintended consequences to actions and how your intent doesn't matter if the consequences are that it hurt people.
I'm with you here man. Lying is probably bad, yeah, but there's so much more context here. Demonstrating that he's a liar, getting him to prove to his audience that he's a liar, his audience doesn't care that he's a liar, and suddenly lying matters when you donate 1000 to charities in his name.
I completely agree. It was very well played. But there is something unsatisfying about proving you are right to a group that will never, ever admit you are right.
@@targaghjjYeah, but you can *kinda* take solice in the fact that they never concede that anyone outside of their cult is right. One would be the exemplar of arrogance to think they have even the remotest of chances at being the first reasonable person ever to crack their facade. Being maddeningly obstinate is right there in the name of their ideology: conservative.
That's misrepresenting people though. They're not mad he donated $1k. They're mad he offered Mead $1k to do a thing, then didn't give Mead the $1k after Mead did the thing. You can argue that was an okay thing to do, or not. Idc. But don't misrepresent why people are mad about it.
Agreed that giving him the $1000 directly would have been far worse, morally speaking, than lying to him about it. This way that money's going towards real change. I think a lot of us still need to deprogram ourselves from the 'lying is always wrong' mentality that was drilled into us as kids. Because yeah, nuance and context are things that exist. I also have to wonder how much of the 'you're just as bad as he is now' mentality is from people who were raised with the idea that 'all sins are equal'. Considering how many of us grew up in Christian denominations that promote that ideology, and that it's taught to us in general by our Culturally Christian society, it wouldn't surprise me if that's at the core of it. I could be way off there, though. Really glad I found your content either way. Appreciate you, Austin!
I’m autistic and I was taught to treat people the way I want to be treated. But what I wasn’t told is that other people see that as optional and also other people can be horrible people. I did cringe a little when I heard about donating to the charities, but when I heard the explanation of why, it made complete sense. I really admire someone willing to receive so much backlash in order to prove a point. Well played! 👏👏👏
@@yourmom2189 Same here! Right down to being Autistic, lol. :) I know how hard it can be to learn that the rules we were taught were steadfast actually have depth and nuance to them. Nothing's ever simple, for better or worse. ^^;
@@Totally_Glitched that’s the straight up truth, right there! That’s what I tell people, including myself, when people think in black and white. Life is complex and almost always gray. Except for when it’s not. 😋
I think you're a legend for what you did to that guy. I think sometimes the right needs to get a taste of their own medicine. A serial killer that stabs themselves with a knife and goes "that's what I do to people? That sucks" doesn't mean they deserve sympathy because they finally realized what they did wrong to people. He absolutely deserves this because he walked away not changing a bit. He's still a grifter and a loser. If money wasn't involved, none of them would have gave a damn about you. It's like you said, you deprived them of "winning" and that's what sucks for them. But they are just gonna say they won anyways and continue to be smooth brained idiots. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. According to THEIR OWN GAME you did nothing wrong. Maybe they should just, how do they say, oh yeah "suck it up buttercup you lost. Get over it." You do not owe them anything. Super awesome of you to donate to those charities as well. I've only recently started watching your content but I'm a HUGE fan and will continue to be because of the way you are actually honest about the situation. I can guarantee he would've did the same exact thing to you AND came up with a reason of why he shouldn't have to pay you and none of them would be all over his ass about it. Sure, you just have a more honest and real audience than him and could genuinely hurt someone's feelings over it, but come on. They play dirty 24/7, you can't be canceled for doing it ONCE.
If recent events have taught me anything, it's that LITERALLY NO ONE on the right EVER admits they lose at ANYTHING. Up to and including state and national elections where there are hard numbers that say they lost. They still. Will not. Ever admit it. That's the new conservative we're dealing with now.
As a Drama Monarch myself, I admire your ability to be honest with us about where and how you potentially failed, and lend credit to those who argue in good faith that you had in fact failed. As always we continue to learn and grow as political minds when we can admit our mistakes. Exemplary work.
"You think this is funny?" "Well Terry, it sure as sh*it ain't sad" Yes, this is absolutely funny and sure as sh*t isn't sad 😂 Good on you! I'm happy to have stumbled onto your channel, you got a new subscriber
All across Oregon we tried that shit in a small town. I went to a BLM protest in Dallas Oregon. A place with a similar history and demographic as the town in the song. Maybe even a worse history. It went great. Much better than in the large cities in fact. Their police force lacks the militarization to crack down hard, and them 'good ol boys' never did show up. The protesters were their neighbors. In a small town you have to go back home to the same neighborhood as everyone else, and head out to work together tomorrow. No the 'good ol boys' had all driven to the large towns to counter protest while armed like a militia.
I remember protests in Idaho where the "militia" was out in force and intimidated the protestors... Of course Neo-Nazis are slowly taking over Idaho... so there is that concern for the future.
There was a protest in Vidor, TX and people were freaking out but absolutely nothing violent happened. The protest went fine and people hung around for a couple hours before going home.
Who is the better person? Someone who gets mad that you donated $1000 to a worthy charity, or someone that took $1000 of their own money to donate to worthy charities? I think you did the right thing 100%.
I mean, technically I think Austin donated $1,000 of Jeff's money to charity? That was kind of the whole point? To be clear, I'm good with that. If I were in a position to donate $1,000 worth of Jeff's money to charity, I'd probably do it too.
@@EmDaMo it wasn't just in his name. It was his money. In most states, verbal contracts are technically valid and enforcable. Austin made an offer that included consideration on both parts. Shitheel accepted the contract and delivered on their end of the bargain. That means Austin does, in fact, owe Shitheel money. If Austin donated that money to charity instead, it means Shitheel money was actually factually donated to charity. Unless Shitheel sues. In which case Austin probably has to pony up again. At which point Shitheel will have his money and Austin will have donated in Shitheel's name.
@@tonedef221 I am well aware of that, it's simply not relevant. Austin and Jeff had a *documented* verbal contract. There was consideration on both sides (Jeff shares a particular segment of video with his followers and Austin delivers $1,000 to Jeff). That makes this enforcable. By sharing that video segment with his followers, Jeff delivered his consideration. Austin delivered $1,000 to a party that was not Jeff, which places Austin in breach of that contract. If Jeff decided to take Austin to small claims court over this, he would almost certainly win. Do I think Austin is a bad person for breaching that contract? No, I don't. But it turns out that contract law and morality have very little to do with each other. Now, y'all want to come along and pretend that the particular $1,000 that was sent to the third party "in Jeff's name" was Jeff's money rather than Austin's. Fine. In order to make that make sense, we need to start with the fiction that money isn't fungible. If we accept that premise, then the thing that happened with that money is that Austin took Jeff's money, which should have been under Jeff's control, and donated it to charity. In that (wrong but funny) interpretation, Jeff would be able to go after the 3rd party for his money. That, however, would be an absurd outcome and we all know it. But since it is a funny way of thinking about it, I rolled with it for the purposes of my last comment. But if we want to actually discuss how the law works, what's actually happened here is that Austin has donated *his own* money to the 3rd party, lied to the the 3rd party saying the money came from Jeff, and has not fulfilled his end of the contract. Which is also funny, because Jeff is an awful person.
sometimes moral absolutism is about winning at all costs, and sometimes its about refusing to defend yourself at all costs. these sorts of ideas appeal to people with no critical reasoning skills, and no conflict management skills. You did take the high road by actually donating 1000 dollars to charities. the reality is, it would have been perfectly fair game to simply lie, and let that be the end of it, like he would and does. It wouldn't matter to your audience any more than it matters to theirs. We're just fighting for something, and they are fighting against it, blindly, and that is why we are not the same. the human instinct unites all of us in foolishness
I can’t imagine how anyone could get mad that you donated to those organizations in his name instead of sending the money straight to him. The fact that those organizations got money because of this whole ‘drama’ is a win win. Jeff should think that, his followers should think that, and your followers should damn well think that if they are truly being honest with themselves and how they are ‘not racists’. The ones who won’t trust you now aren’t worth it, in my mind. I’m glad you are letting that happen. I’m sorry you have to.
That’s the thing I couldn’t help but wonder - especially for Austin’s followers who complained about his loss of integrity and morality; they were more concerned about the “lie” Austin told, instead of considering the alternative. That Mr. Mead sure as hell wouldn’t have donated those money in a show of good faith - but Austin did, even to prove a point with a “lie”.
But Archer didn't have to trick Mead into posting the video in order to donate $1k. Archer could have just donated to charity on his own, if the point were actually to benefit charity, and not to win an online beef.
@@reed6514 you could argue that the “online beef” made for good content which brought clicks which then funded the donation since this is how Archer makes money. Either way, the charity got money. I’m not sure there is any reason to complain knowing that. Only my opinion though 😊
If you're a Kindergarten teacher, someone you don't recognize asks the whereabouts of one of your students and you lie to the person about the child's whereabouts. In moral absolutism you lied and so you're bad. But in reality, your lie prevented the child from being irresponsibly handed over to a total stranger.
@@reed6514 Analogies don't cater to pedantry well. Perhaps look for arguments that are trying to be pedantic. Maybe they will better suit your pedantry.
The funny thing about burning the flag is that in the United States Flag Code section 8 called "Respect for the flag" here is how you dispose of it! "(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning."
yep, and meanwhile the people freaking out about it are the types with giant flags on their trucks that the wind has torn to ribbons (and decals with the stripes going the wrong way vs the part of the vehicle it's on, but that's just a bonus laugh for me)
The right also love, love, loves slapping the American flag on everything. Another little bit in the flag code is “(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.” Funny how that works.
@@aroihkin Oh my god, yes! It’s also disrespectful to alter the flag. Conservatives sure do love their grayed out flags with the blue line. It is stated in the US code, section 700 that “The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars, white in a blue field.” The offense is punishable by 1 year in prison lol. We love to see the hypocrisy.
Meanwhile in Europe it wouldn't work because flags are made according to regulations which make them imperious to flame. Smh. Can't trigger the nationalists because of European directives
Dude, this is incredible, you're incredible. The only thing I think you could have done better in the heist is say "Jeff, I got $1000 with your name on it if you post the whole clip" -- that perhaps would have resonated as still honest & truthful, yet still have the excellent caveat of donating it in his name. Always a pleasure to see your work, my para-migo. 💕
I feel like what someone lies about matters. You didn't lie about the argument, or misrepresent your position or theirs, you misrepresented how you would pay the bet. That's all. He's still defending racists and bigots, while you explicitly work against them. I say fine with me.
HI Austin, late to the party and I just want to say I subscribed after watching this video. The final argument equivocating Jeff's promised $1000 versus Jeff's misleading the literal hearts and minds is the damning, delicious irony that I came for. Integrity of business, not of ideas. 3 stars Firestone would dine again
I’m just finding you for the first time and want to say well done! Lie to the disingenuous liars. That whole “when they go low, we go high” idealism gets us nowhere. And I love the orgs you chose. Hard to be bitter about them benefitting from some internet nonsense. 🎉
Ryan Arko's comment gives a lot of insight to why "do your own research" is such a mantra for certain groups. It's often code for "spend you time to prove that I'm lying" which is quickly followed by "obviously you've not done enough research".
I mean, technically since it’s under his name he can write off that money for tax season so he can get his $1000 if he really wants it. I think it was a masterful move and them getting butt hurt about it only draws more eyes unto the situation where they look ridiculous. What would they say in a scenario if the roles were reversed? Something about 4D chess….
Making a donation in someone’s name or “in honour” of someone else is often referred to as a tribute gift. Whoever paid the money for the donation is the one who receives the tax deduction.
I'm an intersectional minority through & through, and as someone who is always expected to be a model exemplary member of my minority communities, I think it's pure and utter BS to think you need to hold yourself to any kind of standard, especially when it comes to the standards of Western Capitalism. We all know those standards are set by cis, heterosexual white men who couldn't care less what happens outside of retaining wealth & power. I don't ever let them decide the tempo, because their whole cotillion is f*cked. I applaud you and your commitment to a bit, because grifters getting grifted is a form of street justice I can get behind. You also gained a new follower. 😉
Loving watching through all your stuff! I'm new here, but I'm so glad you brought up the Ocean's 13 comparison... because I'm betting a majority of the people mad that you donated in his name also laughed/were happy when they did that to Benedict in the movie. If they've even seen it.
The idea of a moral high ground only matters if all parties care about it. Maintaining the moral high ground politically has yielded the following: - SCOTUS was at a stalemate for a year - Neil Gorsuch appointed to SCOTUS because SenateRepublicans refused to do their jobs - Amy Coney Barrett appointed to SCOTUS in an election year despite Republicans refusing to even hold a hearing on Merrick Garland in 2016 - Subsequent terrible SCOTUS rulings: Egbert v. Boule(weakens accountability for 4th amendment violations), Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health (Overturns Roe v. Wade and questions the right to privacy),and West VA v. EPA (limited EPA’s ability to regulate CO2 emissions of existing power plants) - 2 black Tennessee lawmakers expelled from the state house for protesting for gun control because they were violating decorum. Meanwhile Republicans in the same chamber are guilty of CSA and Domestic violence and faced no expulsion. Tax payer money has to be spent on new elections even though their constituents voted to reinstate them. - Zooey Zephyr being barred from speaking in the Montana chamber for saying anti-trans republicans have blood on their hands (which is a reference to the biblical story of Pontius Pilate).
as someone in your audience that was initially caught off guard by you lying to jeff, and felt conflicted about it, after hearing you elaborate more on it through this video, I get it. Thanks for taking the time to explain further, I’m sure it has been very tiring for you to revisit this drama so many times. Looking forward to your future vids!
I’m curious why you felt caught off guard and conflicted in the first place? Because I can’t help but wonder why people(of Austin’s followers) disappointed in his “lie” didn’t really seem to put it into the context in which it was done, but instead simply perceived what Austin did was dishonest(or immoral). I’m using quotation marks because it’s not what I (personally) would consider a lie with dishonest or malicious intent. Yes, Austin took a leaf out of their petty book by baiting and trolling him to prove a point, but he chose to do so while donating those money in Jeff’s name, because he sure as hell wouldn’t donate it to charity himself.
@@EmDaMoPersonally, and I've seen this mentioned in other comments, I am recovering from moral absolutism/religious trauma and theres an instinctual reaction for me. Its something I can observe and reason with, but it does come up for me regularly and did come up in response to Austin's "lie". Hearing him going over the arguments helped me understand the nuance, and gives me more knowledge to help myself navigate these types of situations in the future, both internally and externally.
I personally thought it was just de rigueur for public social media bet winnings to be given to charity. Claiming one did not see that coming is just disingenuous. Love your work as always Austin ❤
“Aww no, I didn’t pay the grifter his money for grifting☹️”, tbh this interaction was the reason why I subbed and followed you on TT. Jeff does irreparable damage to the black community by being a token black, him losing $1000 he won by lying is a drop in the bucket in comparison
I live in a small town and all of the crimes mentioned in the lyrics have actually happened here and no "good old boys raised up right" did anything about it. Just how much does Aldean know about life in a small town? How long has it been since he has actually lived in one? Or has he ever lived in a small town?
A small town usually consists of a post office and or a tavern... no riots and no big government adjacent building, which the latter of riots and big government building is what was shown in the original music video.
This video finally convinced me to subscribe (I tend to keep that list very small) after randomly catching some of your shorts and then some full videos. Sorry not sorry about all the people who left because of this amazing troll on someone who absolutely deserved it 😂❤
I think he is so charming because part of him does want to agree since he is black. I used to be the same way but it was all coming from a place of self-hatred and not being able to pull myself up because I'm disabled but being treated so poorly because of being black that I didn't even realize that's what I was doing.
I can't have any serious discussions with my dad, because he absolutely just wants to win a conversation. Can't even talk to him about my anxiety, because he thinks my actual anxiety disorder, is the same thing as him 'sometimes feeling anxious.' Which is, obviously, frustrating. He listens to respond, rather than listening to understand.
I have social anxiety... severe social anxiety... my parents just called it "being shy"... it's taking me over an hour to call a person... I've been pacing back and forth in the kitchen for the entire time.. that's not being "shy". :/
Been following you on TikTok for a long time, so i'm glad this was in my recommended. I saw most of this unfold as it was happening and thought it was brilliant. I think all too often the left "turns the other cheek" for the sake of upholding being virtous. And while I believe we shouldn't compromise our morals, my perspective on the subject has really shifted since I've noticed that beating conservatives at their own game is actually highly effective at helping people in the middle to take pause and actually consider our position. It's possible to do it with integrity, and I think this situation is a great example of that. I guarantee you have impacted many, even planting seeds that grow and blossoms down the line.
I love the way you take the time to go through your decisions, and recognize your own impact as a creator and media analyst. I learned a lot in this video and honestly I really appreciate your reflexivity. Keep doing what you’re doing.
I was uncomfortable with the stunt, but I've heard you out and agree with your reasoning. I'm a former Christian conservative and I think I lean too hard into "moral high ground" stuff sometimes, so it's good to get some pushback against that sometimes.
I put it like this: The moral high ground doesn't mean shi- when youre dead. And Jesus braided a whip and flipped tables to chase away merchants in a temple. So like. If you ever ask: What would Jesus do? The answer is indeed, throw hands
I totally get (and like) what you were going for. Sure, it wasn't as smooth as in the movie, but I appreciate this response to it all. I'm a bit late to the party, but I hope you're doing okay and not letting them get to you!
Don't you dare pay him don't you dare those are him in alt accounts everyone who said anything was him or one of his followers it wasn't your people they're trying to get you to sing to his level and pay him that is sinking to his level don't you dare that money is just gonna go to Trump
This whole thing makes me love you even more. I completely understand why you did it, because Jeff was lying every single time he said that the song by Jason Aldean had nothing to do with racism. The fact that you have sooo much integrity that this tiny prank made you feel bad proves that you are a good person. I can't wait for what's next! ❤❤❤
This is great! Good on you for donating the money & f*** that sell out, you shouldn’t have to pay someone to tell the truth. Also, don’t forget the consequence of getting new fans for having balls
I started watching your content after appearing on The Line, but this really cemented my respect for you not as a content creator, but as a human who would do the right thing. Who would steal to feed a starving child. Great stuff.
Also, it is not like a dude pretty much said, "we found a way to be racist without directly stating it" in an interview in 1981 and used it for multiple political campaigns to👏this👏day👏.
Something I have never been able to fully understand about certain mindsets but have always found moderately terrifying and leaves me deeply sorrowful for the future of our species, is that blatant double standard and the need for some to always be correct, or just, or right, or win. The people leaving some truly abhorent and threatening comments are doing so in the name of a person they follow who absolutely admitted to deceiving them to continue the narrative they all want to hear. You donate $1000 to charities to prove a point and are the "bad guy" with some of them literally threatening you... I grew up in a very small town filled with that. I didn't understand it then, I certainly don't now, decades later. I just see more and more of it and that has obliterated any hope I had for logic and reason ever having any affect. Side note: Anyone who unsubbed from your channel over this picked a weird hill to die on but to each their own. I'll take an empty seat at the table. Not giving that dude any money is fantastic, I doubt he needs it and if he does then he can just start selling sawdust pills to deeply insecure men like the other members of that fraternity. You know, honest money...
On flag burning: In 1986, I wrote my college entrance essay in defense of U.S. flag burning as a 1st Amendment expression. This was timely because SCOTUS just ruled that burning the flag was NOT illegal & valid "speech."
Nah Austin, this is iconic. If this is the thing that some people use to no longer trust you or your integrity then they were simply waiting for a reason to dislike you. This is the first video I’ve ever seen of yours and I’m definitely going to subscribe and follow on clock app.
Honestly at this point anyone who is able to piss off this many conservatives is a hero in my mind. I've given up on trying to get them to understand, the only thing I care about now is making them feel like they lost. I want them to be embarrassed, feel stupid. I want to laugh at them publicly. You sir have done this masterfully.
So glad TH-cam put you in my recommends! I follow you on TikTok but have taken a hiatus from that platform. Good to see you here. Also I am glad you are standing your ground and accepting the consequences, something conservatives could stand a lesson in as well. Subscribed!
Seeing the crying conservative's comments gave me an understanding of conservatives wanting a candidate that will "make liberals angry" I probably shouldn't feel as good about it as I do. But there it is. Don't pay Jeff. Double down and make more donations in his followers' names. Post a video saying lets all donate in his followers names recommending what we should donate to. I'll join in. Also maybe let the rivalry die.
To be fair, Jeff didn’t actually show the whole video you bet him he wouldn’t. He showed the response video (which included clips from the original video). 🤷
This was an excellent breakdown and I love you for doing what you did. I personally disagree with the "high road" focus by older democratic ideologues. We've let propagandists destory any high road we could take and it's time to fight back. I think what you do will help more people than it hurt. Well done.
I had someone tell me a “dog whistle” is a WAY owners whistle for their dogs, like a catchy show tune. I know, on my last walk in the forest I heard some Hamilton songs and watched a poodle dart by. Good whistling, madam!
Thank you for putting the nazi punching video in there, genuinely my favorite video on the internet. also, you nailed this whole argument and the donation move was incredible.
This is the thing that got me to subscribe on youtube. The right pick on the left because we're so easy to pick on and you pulling off this heist is proof of that.
One of the other differences in character here is your willingness to evaluate the effects (and the moral implications) of your actions have. That takes a willingness to be in the wrong. That is something I basically never see from the right. That takes fortitude, self reflection and empathy. I think you haven't lost integrity.
Gotta admit, seeing someone actively grift a grifter is the most cathartic thing I've seen in the past five years. And I gotta say, the whole thing reminds me of the episode of The Good Place where they all go to the bad place and Chidi has a hard time lying to people, but Eleanor makes the point that being true to ones morals may change based on the situation. They were in hell and needed to lie in order to reach the judge and perform more good, you lied to a liar to prove a point that they were indeed lying themselves and then did an objective good thing with that lie. I'll definitely be subscribing here on YT. Don't have a TikTok tho. I hope your comments improve over time and you get back a better audience 👍
I can never quite feel happy about situations like this because as you said it really shows that people literally don't care about morals. I actually think your video exposing your "lie" was the perfect way to illustrate this phenomena more overtly. I think most people on the left have come to notice that these people don't care and are just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. In the end you were right, none of them cared about the actual morality, they didn't care that he lied to them, they only wanted to feel like they caused left leaning people distress in some way. They employ the awful tactic of conclusions first, arguments later instead of deriving their opinions from the actual information. The reason you can never "win" an argument against people like this because they don't care about logic, they have their opinion and they're sticking to it no matter what.
You haven't lost any credibility in my mind. I learn a lot from you, both the content and the way you structure a debate, discussion or response and apply humor to all of it. I also can see that you have done some self-reflection and are willing to acknowledge you could or should have handled things differently. We are all humans and part of the human condition is that we make errors. The part that shows someone's true colors is what they do next, after the error. Stepping back, assessing what we did, taking accountability/responsibility for it and figuring out how to do things differently or better in the future and then being transparent about what we did, learned and changed is the better 'next step'. People might consider giving this approach a whirl. It certainly *seems* to lead to better results compared to deflecting, denying, brushing things aside, feeling indignant rage. Keep doing what you're doing, my dude.
THANK YOU! I watch a lot of music reactors. I know they react to requests and that’s fine. What I don’t agree with is reacting to a known controversial song, then one sidedly agreeing that it’s just a song about “community” but not looking into WHY people are calling him out. It’s not just the song, it’s his history with racism. And I swear most of the commenters are bots or people with an agenda because these are not the type of people I have ever seen in the comments. Not once have I seen country music fans asking for more Aldean on hip hop and alternative reaction channels. Not once. Seems weird.
Having watched the whole video - I do agree there were better ways to handle it, but I also think that, to borrow and modify a quote from Michelle Obama: When they go low, we go high, and we kick ‘em in the teeth on the way up.
Lol, that was awesome. I dont care how mad you made Jeff. Tell him he could write it off on his taxes. Theyre the only ones who can be deceitful it would appear, and then turn into snowflakes the minute someone "owns" them. Hahahahaha. You did a great job. Got a sub from me. People who lie a lot tend to get mad at being lied to very easily.
To my knowledge this is the first of your videos I've seen. Was not expecting to watch a man watch a video of him watching a video of...him.. was also not expecting to stay for the whole video (adhd)... very engaging! Your inceptionous video really held my brain in thrall. 😅🤘 I agree about the money, lol. Giving it to him would be the greater evil.
I agree with everything you said except for the part that you feel like the info wasnt your best work. Dont let people who lie and pull shit outta their asses on the daily judge you for literally doing something with that 1000 dollars that Jeff would've never done. I applaud the entire thing.
Yay the algorithm gods favoured me today and led me to you! 💜 I didn't know who you are or what this was about and this video explained everything succinctly with humour and wit. Jeff just scored you a new fan! 😂
You’re absolutely amazing, my dude. If I had a thousand dollars I’d also use it to scam scammers by donating to charities 😂 If the other side doesn’t play fair and only cares about winning, why should we have some fun with it all while hurting literally nobody?
I follow you on TikTok and saw this is real time. I wasn’t sure how I felt about it when you donated the money, but just shrugged and thought that the money went to better use that way anyway. I appreciate the more in depth take on it. And I tend to agree with your analysis here.
Jason Andean was also the singer preforming when the shooting at the route 91 harvest festival in Las Vegas happened and while he’s obviously not to blame for the shooting he basically showed no empathy whatsoever towards victims and survivors in the aftermath.
Finished this video now. Well done, and interesting. Lots of things you did during this process really reveal and detail the priorities of the conservative side.
I hoped you were gonna do what you did when I saw the first tiktok about the money, and I wasn't let down. Thanks for being you. Good job. Also, I never saw the "deep down" meme. Thanks for that, too.
I thought it was amazing work. I may be one new subscriber.. but as a black guy who deals with this type of stuff in real life and in my own prior content creation career.. I think you did great and I can't wait to see what else you do!
You may have lied about about giving him money directly, but what you did with the money was admirable & that shows that you are the better person in the end. The people that got pissed about it are people that only care about themselves & money.
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Lmao "he didn't say race once" "the bill doesn't even say the word gay" gotta love the "I'm not touching you" style of political discourse
Literally manz doesn't know what the term "dogwhistle" meant and it had me rolling.
"But god I'm definitely not going to let myself to be lectured to about morality or integrity by people that think that Donald Trump is a good person." - I think this closing line really summed it up for me.
He could have only said that and it would have saved him so much time. It's 100%
Facts
The "make liberals angry" crowd sure gets angry easily.
😂😂😂😂
They truly are the biggest SNOWFLAKES! The thing that you have to remember about "Conservatives " is that EVERY accusation is a confession.
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you just watched a 47-minute video of an angry liberal crying about a song.
@@patriceshephard4665thats literally conservatives. Are you so unaware?
If monarch is too boring, my nonbinary friend has expressed their fondness for the term themperor.
Tell your friend that they're a genius.
@@ilikecookies9796 😂😂😂 Absolutely agree, brilliant!
I shall be using this, thank your friend
Themperor! Yes! 👑
You didn’t lie, you just forgot to let him know that if he actually wanted the money, he had to put in the work of contacting those charities and tell them he wanted to rescind the donations.
Thing is…. I wouldn’t put it above a conservative grifter to do that very thing.
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i kinda love how they are all like "wow i cant NOT beleave that he lied like that! how rude!" but like they will just lie on a drop of a hat.
I know isn't it kind of just a little bit great?
@@yourpal_austin I think giving the money to him would be giving them far too big a win. The paradox of tolerance shows you were, if not in the right, completely justified.
Conservatives deep down believe that they are gigantic pieces of shit and that liberals are the good guys, so it pisses them off when "liberals" do something that makes them look bad. They know they're terrible, so they react poorly when their betters don't fit in with their false dichotomy they've constructed in their heads. Conservatives see other conservatives do terrible things and to them that's normal.
the irony of Austin calling out Jeff's lie only to have Jeff's audience entirely ignore the lie and go after Austin as a liar. 🤸🤸♂🤸♀
I'm so sick and tired of liberals being held to ridiculous standards. You've got conservatives who don't hold themselves or their politicians to any standard, then require perfection from liberals if they try to argue any point. We should absolutely stop being that hard on each other. Also daring someone on TikTok can't be a legally binding contract, can it?
I feel that, leftist infighting can be pretty nauseating and can come off counter productive, and then conservatives can routinely just lie or say awful offensive things and they will never check each other, until money comes into play
I found your plan to donate Jeff's money to be a masterclass in handling regressive racists! You beat him at his own game! Bravo!!
Right, it’s ok to lie to these bad actors
@@TheMArtagnan yep. They only understand the low road.
@TheMArtagnan yes. Yes it is.
@@TheMArtagnan Correct.
Just speaking their language 😂 can't get thru to them without lying grifting and trolling. Screw these conservatives they do this exact shot all the time to the detriment of many people
Something tells me a lot of people don’t really know what they’re talking about when they throw around words like “ethics” and “morals” in such a binary and smug way. I’ve spent a lot of time studying ethics, and the biggest takeaway is that it’s REALLY complicated, and the shorter the appeal to moral absolutism, the more likely it is someone is being disingenuous. Keep living your beet life, fellow exmo!!❤️
I always thought it was quite simple. "Do unto others" seems to sum it up quite nicely. Jesus said it, Budda said it, Confucius said it. And it's a thing conservatives can't quite grasp.
@@darkhobobass principles are simple but when it comes to applying nuance to ethical and moral discussions, a lot of people just turn off their brain and resort to simplistic thinking where it’s not needed.
It wasn’t until I asked why? And studied psychology and neuroscience until I built a real foundation. We teach surface level morality without explaining the mechanisms behind them and wonder why people become doubtful. Similar to how it always back fires when they try to teach about drugs and sex while leaving out information. Of course people are going to become distrustful. But honestly I doubt half those teachers could even explain themselves.
This is exactly it. Philosophy, ethics, morality…. All SO complicated
@@darkhobo Nope, and that's why ethics is complex. See, imagine you are fundamentally a BAD person. Let's say you're a priest and you have... predilections. Of the illegal kind. Then believe, very sincerely, that the only reason you wouldn't act on that is because you don't want to go to hell. You don't even THINK about the child in that equation, either. You only can think of yourself, and have no theory of mind and can't tell that other people DON'T usually have those thoughts, you think they're all monsters who are one religious leash away from acting out on that.
So then "do unto others as you would want" warps drastically into "I would want to be stopped from being a monster so I don't go to hell for doing what I want to do instead of what makes sure I go to Heaven", and that's how you have hypocrites assuming atheists are as depraved as they are and willing to act on it since they don't have hell to scare them out of doing it.
(Disclaimer, most christians I know aren't unhinged like that, but I've seen televangelists that need to go on the sex offender register for the self-reports on their thoughts they've said on air while grasping at straws to explain why pokemon designs are evil, and that's the broken logic they use.)
Ethics is building a framework that doesn't rely on empathy or theory of mind and that accomodates for times where bending the rules is good, and the distinction between good, moral, and legal.
Ethics also asks, "I can do this, but SHOULD I do it", and considers unintended consequences to actions and how your intent doesn't matter if the consequences are that it hurt people.
I'm with you here man. Lying is probably bad, yeah, but there's so much more context here. Demonstrating that he's a liar, getting him to prove to his audience that he's a liar, his audience doesn't care that he's a liar, and suddenly lying matters when you donate 1000 to charities in his name.
I completely agree. It was very well played. But there is something unsatisfying about proving you are right to a group that will never, ever admit you are right.
@@targaghjjYeah, but you can *kinda* take solice in the fact that they never concede that anyone outside of their cult is right. One would be the exemplar of arrogance to think they have even the remotest of chances at being the first reasonable person ever to crack their facade. Being maddeningly obstinate is right there in the name of their ideology: conservative.
Imagine claiming someone was unethical and didn’t have integrity because they donated $1000 in your name.
And the only reason you’re getting $1000 is because you intentionally lied to your own audience
That's misrepresenting people though. They're not mad he donated $1k. They're mad he offered Mead $1k to do a thing, then didn't give Mead the $1k after Mead did the thing.
You can argue that was an okay thing to do, or not. Idc. But don't misrepresent why people are mad about it.
Agreed that giving him the $1000 directly would have been far worse, morally speaking, than lying to him about it. This way that money's going towards real change.
I think a lot of us still need to deprogram ourselves from the 'lying is always wrong' mentality that was drilled into us as kids. Because yeah, nuance and context are things that exist.
I also have to wonder how much of the 'you're just as bad as he is now' mentality is from people who were raised with the idea that 'all sins are equal'. Considering how many of us grew up in Christian denominations that promote that ideology, and that it's taught to us in general by our Culturally Christian society, it wouldn't surprise me if that's at the core of it. I could be way off there, though.
Really glad I found your content either way. Appreciate you, Austin!
I’m autistic and I was taught to treat people the way I want to be treated. But what I wasn’t told is that other people see that as optional and also other people can be horrible people. I did cringe a little when I heard about donating to the charities, but when I heard the explanation of why, it made complete sense. I really admire someone willing to receive so much backlash in order to prove a point. Well played! 👏👏👏
@@yourmom2189 Same here! Right down to being Autistic, lol. :)
I know how hard it can be to learn that the rules we were taught were steadfast actually have depth and nuance to them. Nothing's ever simple, for better or worse. ^^;
@@Totally_Glitched that’s the straight up truth, right there! That’s what I tell people, including myself, when people think in black and white. Life is complex and almost always gray. Except for when it’s not. 😋
@@yourmom2189 Well said!
A-tier comment right here
I think you're a legend for what you did to that guy. I think sometimes the right needs to get a taste of their own medicine. A serial killer that stabs themselves with a knife and goes "that's what I do to people? That sucks" doesn't mean they deserve sympathy because they finally realized what they did wrong to people. He absolutely deserves this because he walked away not changing a bit. He's still a grifter and a loser. If money wasn't involved, none of them would have gave a damn about you. It's like you said, you deprived them of "winning" and that's what sucks for them. But they are just gonna say they won anyways and continue to be smooth brained idiots. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. According to THEIR OWN GAME you did nothing wrong. Maybe they should just, how do they say, oh yeah "suck it up buttercup you lost. Get over it." You do not owe them anything. Super awesome of you to donate to those charities as well. I've only recently started watching your content but I'm a HUGE fan and will continue to be because of the way you are actually honest about the situation. I can guarantee he would've did the same exact thing to you AND came up with a reason of why he shouldn't have to pay you and none of them would be all over his ass about it. Sure, you just have a more honest and real audience than him and could genuinely hurt someone's feelings over it, but come on. They play dirty 24/7, you can't be canceled for doing it ONCE.
This was so well written! Agreed 1000%
If recent events have taught me anything, it's that LITERALLY NO ONE on the right EVER admits they lose at ANYTHING. Up to and including state and national elections where there are hard numbers that say they lost. They still. Will not. Ever admit it. That's the new conservative we're dealing with now.
As a Drama Monarch myself, I admire your ability to be honest with us about where and how you potentially failed, and lend credit to those who argue in good faith that you had in fact failed. As always we continue to learn and grow as political minds when we can admit our mistakes. Exemplary work.
Absolutely. Well said.
Drama Monarch - nailed it!
I had forgotten about the royalty comment so when I saw you said Drama Monarch, I automatically translated that to drama butterfly! 🤣😂🤣🤦
@@yourmom2189social butterfly < drama butterfly
Drama monarch 😂😂
"You think this is funny?"
"Well Terry, it sure as sh*it ain't sad"
Yes, this is absolutely funny and sure as sh*t isn't sad 😂
Good on you! I'm happy to have stumbled onto your channel, you got a new subscriber
The Black conservative grift is so obvious and absolutely ridiculous.
18:30 This right here. This is how you know he is a liar and not just dumb.
All across Oregon we tried that shit in a small town. I went to a BLM protest in Dallas Oregon. A place with a similar history and demographic as the town in the song. Maybe even a worse history. It went great. Much better than in the large cities in fact. Their police force lacks the militarization to crack down hard, and them 'good ol boys' never did show up. The protesters were their neighbors. In a small town you have to go back home to the same neighborhood as everyone else, and head out to work together tomorrow. No the 'good ol boys' had all driven to the large towns to counter protest while armed like a militia.
I remember protests in Idaho where the "militia" was out in force and intimidated the protestors... Of course Neo-Nazis are slowly taking over Idaho... so there is that concern for the future.
There was a protest in Vidor, TX and people were freaking out but absolutely nothing violent happened. The protest went fine and people hung around for a couple hours before going home.
Who is the better person? Someone who gets mad that you donated $1000 to a worthy charity, or someone that took $1000 of their own money to donate to worthy charities? I think you did the right thing 100%.
I mean, technically I think Austin donated $1,000 of Jeff's money to charity? That was kind of the whole point? To be clear, I'm good with that. If I were in a position to donate $1,000 worth of Jeff's money to charity, I'd probably do it too.
@@cassiee.3969he donated the money in Jeff’s name - so it would technically be considered ‘his’ contribution.
@@EmDaMo it wasn't just in his name. It was his money. In most states, verbal contracts are technically valid and enforcable. Austin made an offer that included consideration on both parts. Shitheel accepted the contract and delivered on their end of the bargain. That means Austin does, in fact, owe Shitheel money. If Austin donated that money to charity instead, it means Shitheel money was actually factually donated to charity.
Unless Shitheel sues. In which case Austin probably has to pony up again. At which point Shitheel will have his money and Austin will have donated in Shitheel's name.
@@cassiee.3969 it was donated in his name
@@tonedef221 I am well aware of that, it's simply not relevant. Austin and Jeff had a *documented* verbal contract. There was consideration on both sides (Jeff shares a particular segment of video with his followers and Austin delivers $1,000 to Jeff). That makes this enforcable.
By sharing that video segment with his followers, Jeff delivered his consideration. Austin delivered $1,000 to a party that was not Jeff, which places Austin in breach of that contract.
If Jeff decided to take Austin to small claims court over this, he would almost certainly win.
Do I think Austin is a bad person for breaching that contract? No, I don't. But it turns out that contract law and morality have very little to do with each other.
Now, y'all want to come along and pretend that the particular $1,000 that was sent to the third party "in Jeff's name" was Jeff's money rather than Austin's. Fine. In order to make that make sense, we need to start with the fiction that money isn't fungible.
If we accept that premise, then the thing that happened with that money is that Austin took Jeff's money, which should have been under Jeff's control, and donated it to charity. In that (wrong but funny) interpretation, Jeff would be able to go after the 3rd party for his money. That, however, would be an absurd outcome and we all know it. But since it is a funny way of thinking about it, I rolled with it for the purposes of my last comment.
But if we want to actually discuss how the law works, what's actually happened here is that Austin has donated *his own* money to the 3rd party, lied to the the 3rd party saying the money came from Jeff, and has not fulfilled his end of the contract. Which is also funny, because Jeff is an awful person.
The best thing to remember is that you shouldn't take criticism from someone you wouldn't take advice from.
I think the word you're looking for is Monarch
Actually it's "Themperor" (joke stolen from big yellow)
I was thinking Majesty 😅
Or "lord"
Nothing drives me more crazy than someone without integrity, a grifter even, stating that someone else is lacking integrity.
You did right, Austin.
sometimes moral absolutism is about winning at all costs, and sometimes its about refusing to defend yourself at all costs. these sorts of ideas appeal to people with no critical reasoning skills, and no conflict management skills. You did take the high road by actually donating 1000 dollars to charities. the reality is, it would have been perfectly fair game to simply lie, and let that be the end of it, like he would and does. It wouldn't matter to your audience any more than it matters to theirs. We're just fighting for something, and they are fighting against it, blindly, and that is why we are not the same. the human instinct unites all of us in foolishness
I can’t imagine how anyone could get mad that you donated to those organizations in his name instead of sending the money straight to him. The fact that those organizations got money because of this whole ‘drama’ is a win win. Jeff should think that, his followers should think that, and your followers should damn well think that if they are truly being honest with themselves and how they are ‘not racists’. The ones who won’t trust you now aren’t worth it, in my mind. I’m glad you are letting that happen. I’m sorry you have to.
That’s the thing I couldn’t help but wonder - especially for Austin’s followers who complained about his loss of integrity and morality; they were more concerned about the “lie” Austin told, instead of considering the alternative. That Mr. Mead sure as hell wouldn’t have donated those money in a show of good faith - but Austin did, even to prove a point with a “lie”.
But Archer didn't have to trick Mead into posting the video in order to donate $1k. Archer could have just donated to charity on his own, if the point were actually to benefit charity, and not to win an online beef.
@@reed6514 you could argue that the “online beef” made for good content which brought clicks which then funded the donation since this is how Archer makes money. Either way, the charity got money. I’m not sure there is any reason to complain knowing that. Only my opinion though 😊
If you're a Kindergarten teacher, someone you don't recognize asks the whereabouts of one of your students and you lie to the person about the child's whereabouts. In moral absolutism you lied and so you're bad. But in reality, your lie prevented the child from being irresponsibly handed over to a total stranger.
That's a good argument against moral absolutism, but the analogy is not a fair comparison to what actually happened.
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Analogies don't cater to pedantry well. Perhaps look for arguments that are trying to be pedantic.
Maybe they will better suit your pedantry.
@@vcdaniels you're being quite rude.
The funny thing about burning the flag is that in the United States Flag Code section 8 called "Respect for the flag" here is how you dispose of it!
"(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning."
yep, and meanwhile the people freaking out about it are the types with giant flags on their trucks that the wind has torn to ribbons
(and decals with the stripes going the wrong way vs the part of the vehicle it's on, but that's just a bonus laugh for me)
@@aroihkinconservatives when minorities and anyone left of George Bush expresses themselves freely: I wanted free speech but not like that!
The right also love, love, loves slapping the American flag on everything. Another little bit in the flag code is “(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.”
Funny how that works.
@@aroihkin Oh my god, yes! It’s also disrespectful to alter the flag. Conservatives sure do love their grayed out flags with the blue line. It is stated in the US code, section 700 that “The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars, white in a blue field.”
The offense is punishable by 1 year in prison lol. We love to see the hypocrisy.
Meanwhile in Europe it wouldn't work because flags are made according to regulations which make them imperious to flame. Smh. Can't trigger the nationalists because of European directives
Dude, this is incredible, you're incredible.
The only thing I think you could have done better in the heist is say "Jeff, I got $1000 with your name on it if you post the whole clip" -- that perhaps would have resonated as still honest & truthful, yet still have the excellent caveat of donating it in his name.
Always a pleasure to see your work, my para-migo. 💕
I feel like what someone lies about matters. You didn't lie about the argument, or misrepresent your position or theirs, you misrepresented how you would pay the bet. That's all. He's still defending racists and bigots, while you explicitly work against them. I say fine with me.
HI Austin, late to the party and I just want to say I subscribed after watching this video. The final argument equivocating Jeff's promised $1000 versus Jeff's misleading the literal hearts and minds is the damning, delicious irony that I came for. Integrity of business, not of ideas. 3 stars Firestone would dine again
I’m just finding you for the first time and want to say well done! Lie to the disingenuous liars. That whole “when they go low, we go high” idealism gets us nowhere. And I love the orgs you chose. Hard to be bitter about them benefitting from some internet nonsense. 🎉
I absolutely love what you’ve done here. Nearly scientific execution. Be proud.
Ryan Arko's comment gives a lot of insight to why "do your own research" is such a mantra for certain groups. It's often code for "spend you time to prove that I'm lying" which is quickly followed by "obviously you've not done enough research".
"They go low we go high" is an actively harmful policy for life
They go low, I’m visiting Hell.
I mean, technically since it’s under his name he can write off that money for tax season so he can get his $1000 if he really wants it.
I think it was a masterful move and them getting butt hurt about it only draws more eyes unto the situation where they look ridiculous. What would they say in a scenario if the roles were reversed? Something about 4D chess….
Making a donation in someone’s name or “in honour” of someone else is often referred to as a tribute gift. Whoever paid the money for the donation is the one who receives the tax deduction.
Even if he did, it doesn’t mean he “gets” $1000. It means he doesn’t have to pay taxes on it.
I'm an intersectional minority through & through, and as someone who is always expected to be a model exemplary member of my minority communities, I think it's pure and utter BS to think you need to hold yourself to any kind of standard, especially when it comes to the standards of Western Capitalism. We all know those standards are set by cis, heterosexual white men who couldn't care less what happens outside of retaining wealth & power. I don't ever let them decide the tempo, because their whole cotillion is f*cked. I applaud you and your commitment to a bit, because grifters getting grifted is a form of street justice I can get behind.
You also gained a new follower. 😉
Loving watching through all your stuff! I'm new here, but I'm so glad you brought up the Ocean's 13 comparison... because I'm betting a majority of the people mad that you donated in his name also laughed/were happy when they did that to Benedict in the movie. If they've even seen it.
The idea of a moral high ground only matters if all parties care about it. Maintaining the moral high ground politically has yielded the following:
- SCOTUS was at a stalemate for a year
- Neil Gorsuch appointed to SCOTUS because SenateRepublicans refused to do their jobs
- Amy Coney Barrett appointed to SCOTUS in an election year despite Republicans refusing to even hold a hearing on Merrick Garland in 2016
- Subsequent terrible SCOTUS rulings: Egbert v. Boule(weakens accountability for 4th amendment violations), Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health (Overturns Roe v. Wade and questions the right to privacy),and West VA v. EPA (limited EPA’s ability to regulate CO2 emissions of existing power plants)
- 2 black Tennessee lawmakers expelled from the state house for protesting for gun control because they were violating decorum. Meanwhile Republicans in the same chamber are guilty of CSA and Domestic violence and faced no expulsion. Tax payer money has to be spent on new elections even though their constituents voted to reinstate them.
- Zooey Zephyr being barred from speaking in the Montana chamber for saying anti-trans republicans have blood on their hands (which is a reference to the biblical story of Pontius Pilate).
"Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer."
Yeah no screw that guy, I love what you did.
Part of growing up is learning that civility politics is bs
as someone in your audience that was initially caught off guard by you lying to jeff, and felt conflicted about it, after hearing you elaborate more on it through this video, I get it. Thanks for taking the time to explain further, I’m sure it has been very tiring for you to revisit this drama so many times. Looking forward to your future vids!
I’m curious why you felt caught off guard and conflicted in the first place?
Because I can’t help but wonder why people(of Austin’s followers) disappointed in his “lie” didn’t really seem to put it into the context in which it was done, but instead simply perceived what Austin did was dishonest(or immoral). I’m using quotation marks because it’s not what I (personally) would consider a lie with dishonest or malicious intent.
Yes, Austin took a leaf out of their petty book by baiting and trolling him to prove a point, but he chose to do so while donating those money in Jeff’s name, because he sure as hell wouldn’t donate it to charity himself.
@@EmDaMoPersonally, and I've seen this mentioned in other comments, I am recovering from moral absolutism/religious trauma and theres an instinctual reaction for me. Its something I can observe and reason with, but it does come up for me regularly and did come up in response to Austin's "lie". Hearing him going over the arguments helped me understand the nuance, and gives me more knowledge to help myself navigate these types of situations in the future, both internally and externally.
You know you’ve made it when you finally get into TikTok drama lmao
Austin love your heart. I like your take-away from your drama situation. Keep growing and telling the truth❤
I personally thought it was just de rigueur for public social media bet winnings to be given to charity. Claiming one did not see that coming is just disingenuous. Love your work as always Austin ❤
“Aww no, I didn’t pay the grifter his money for grifting☹️”, tbh this interaction was the reason why I subbed and followed you on TT. Jeff does irreparable damage to the black community by being a token black, him losing $1000 he won by lying is a drop in the bucket in comparison
I live in a small town and all of the crimes mentioned in the lyrics have actually happened here and no "good old boys raised up right" did anything about it. Just how much does Aldean know about life in a small town? How long has it been since he has actually lived in one? Or has he ever lived in a small town?
Imagine being a racist AND a poser
There's never punishment because it's the sheriff's kid
Oh! That is too true! @@technicaldifficulties368
A small town usually consists of a post office and or a tavern... no riots and no big government adjacent building, which the latter of riots and big government building is what was shown in the original music video.
From Macon, Georgia I believe.
This video finally convinced me to subscribe (I tend to keep that list very small) after randomly catching some of your shorts and then some full videos. Sorry not sorry about all the people who left because of this amazing troll on someone who absolutely deserved it 😂❤
I think he is so charming because part of him does want to agree since he is black. I used to be the same way but it was all coming from a place of self-hatred and not being able to pull myself up because I'm disabled but being treated so poorly because of being black that I didn't even realize that's what I was doing.
I can't have any serious discussions with my dad, because he absolutely just wants to win a conversation. Can't even talk to him about my anxiety, because he thinks my actual anxiety disorder, is the same thing as him 'sometimes feeling anxious.' Which is, obviously, frustrating. He listens to respond, rather than listening to understand.
I have social anxiety... severe social anxiety... my parents just called it "being shy"... it's taking me over an hour to call a person... I've been pacing back and forth in the kitchen for the entire time.. that's not being "shy". :/
Been following you on TikTok for a long time, so i'm glad this was in my recommended. I saw most of this unfold as it was happening and thought it was brilliant. I think all too often the left "turns the other cheek" for the sake of upholding being virtous. And while I believe we shouldn't compromise our morals, my perspective on the subject has really shifted since I've noticed that beating conservatives at their own game is actually highly effective at helping people in the middle to take pause and actually consider our position. It's possible to do it with integrity, and I think this situation is a great example of that. I guarantee you have impacted many, even planting seeds that grow and blossoms down the line.
this is the first piece of content i've seen from you, and i think this video has more integrity than any conservative ive ever met! subscribed
I love the way you take the time to go through your decisions, and recognize your own impact as a creator and media analyst. I learned a lot in this video and honestly I really appreciate your reflexivity. Keep doing what you’re doing.
That Key and Peele skit was gold!!! Absolute Gold!!!
Don't usually go for internet "drama" but this was surprisingly entertaining. Nicely done!
I was uncomfortable with the stunt, but I've heard you out and agree with your reasoning. I'm a former Christian conservative and I think I lean too hard into "moral high ground" stuff sometimes, so it's good to get some pushback against that sometimes.
I put it like this: The moral high ground doesn't mean shi- when youre dead.
And Jesus braided a whip and flipped tables to chase away merchants in a temple. So like. If you ever ask: What would Jesus do?
The answer is indeed, throw hands
I totally get (and like) what you were going for. Sure, it wasn't as smooth as in the movie, but I appreciate this response to it all. I'm a bit late to the party, but I hope you're doing okay and not letting them get to you!
i mean i just discovered you but youve earned a follower from this move that’s the most iconic thing i can imagine!!
Don't you dare pay him don't you dare those are him in alt accounts everyone who said anything was him or one of his followers it wasn't your people they're trying to get you to sing to his level and pay him that is sinking to his level don't you dare that money is just gonna go to Trump
This whole thing makes me love you even more. I completely understand why you did it, because Jeff was lying every single time he said that the song by Jason Aldean had nothing to do with racism. The fact that you have sooo much integrity that this tiny prank made you feel bad proves that you are a good person. I can't wait for what's next! ❤❤❤
This is great! Good on you for donating the money & f*** that sell out, you shouldn’t have to pay someone to tell the truth. Also, don’t forget the consequence of getting new fans for having balls
The fact that they're giving you free engagement AND are super pissed about you donating to charity are just the whipped cream on top
I started watching your content after appearing on The Line, but this really cemented my respect for you not as a content creator, but as a human who would do the right thing. Who would steal to feed a starving child.
Great stuff.
Also, it is not like a dude pretty much said, "we found a way to be racist without directly stating it" in an interview in 1981 and used it for multiple political campaigns to👏this👏day👏.
Wow. I sat through this saga and was not disappointed. I am impressed.
Something I have never been able to fully understand about certain mindsets but have always found moderately terrifying and leaves me deeply sorrowful for the future of our species, is that blatant double standard and the need for some to always be correct, or just, or right, or win.
The people leaving some truly abhorent and threatening comments are doing so in the name of a person they follow who absolutely admitted to deceiving them to continue the narrative they all want to hear.
You donate $1000 to charities to prove a point and are the "bad guy" with some of them literally threatening you...
I grew up in a very small town filled with that. I didn't understand it then, I certainly don't now, decades later. I just see more and more of it and that has obliterated any hope I had for logic and reason ever having any affect.
Side note: Anyone who unsubbed from your channel over this picked a weird hill to die on but to each their own. I'll take an empty seat at the table. Not giving that dude any money is fantastic, I doubt he needs it and if he does then he can just start selling sawdust pills to deeply insecure men like the other members of that fraternity. You know, honest money...
On flag burning: In 1986, I wrote my college entrance essay in defense of U.S. flag burning as a 1st Amendment expression. This was timely because SCOTUS just ruled that burning the flag was NOT illegal & valid "speech."
Thanks for making this. I was getting a bit confused about what was going on just seeing the occasional short.
Nah Austin, this is iconic. If this is the thing that some people use to no longer trust you or your integrity then they were simply waiting for a reason to dislike you. This is the first video I’ve ever seen of yours and I’m definitely going to subscribe and follow on clock app.
Honestly at this point anyone who is able to piss off this many conservatives is a hero in my mind. I've given up on trying to get them to understand, the only thing I care about now is making them feel like they lost. I want them to be embarrassed, feel stupid. I want to laugh at them publicly. You sir have done this masterfully.
So glad TH-cam put you in my recommends! I follow you on TikTok but have taken a hiatus from that platform. Good to see you here. Also I am glad you are standing your ground and accepting the consequences, something conservatives could stand a lesson in as well. Subscribed!
Seeing the crying conservative's comments gave me an understanding of conservatives wanting a candidate that will "make liberals angry" I probably shouldn't feel as good about it as I do. But there it is. Don't pay Jeff. Double down and make more donations in his followers' names. Post a video saying lets all donate in his followers names recommending what we should donate to. I'll join in. Also maybe let the rivalry die.
Make the fuckers fume.
To be fair, Jeff didn’t actually show the whole video you bet him he wouldn’t. He showed the response video (which included clips from the original video). 🤷
Followed you on Tiktok for a long time didn't know you had a YT channel so I was pleasantly surprised to see you pop-up on my front page😁
This was an excellent breakdown and I love you for doing what you did. I personally disagree with the "high road" focus by older democratic ideologues. We've let propagandists destory any high road we could take and it's time to fight back. I think what you do will help more people than it hurt. Well done.
Thought this was Noah Sampson video, but I was pleasantly surprised with a new youtuber
this is an awsome video!
I could watch richard spencer getting punched 100 times
I had someone tell me a “dog whistle” is a WAY owners whistle for their dogs, like a catchy show tune. I know, on my last walk in the forest I heard some Hamilton songs and watched a poodle dart by. Good whistling, madam!
Thank you for putting the nazi punching video in there, genuinely my favorite video on the internet. also, you nailed this whole argument and the donation move was incredible.
This is the thing that got me to subscribe on youtube. The right pick on the left because we're so easy to pick on and you pulling off this heist is proof of that.
One of the other differences in character here is your willingness to evaluate the effects (and the moral implications) of your actions have. That takes a willingness to be in the wrong. That is something I basically never see from the right. That takes fortitude, self reflection and empathy.
I think you haven't lost integrity.
About 8 months after first watching this video and… *pause for dramatic effect*… I still fucking love it. Great job!
Gotta admit, seeing someone actively grift a grifter is the most cathartic thing I've seen in the past five years.
And I gotta say, the whole thing reminds me of the episode of The Good Place where they all go to the bad place and Chidi has a hard time lying to people, but Eleanor makes the point that being true to ones morals may change based on the situation. They were in hell and needed to lie in order to reach the judge and perform more good, you lied to a liar to prove a point that they were indeed lying themselves and then did an objective good thing with that lie.
I'll definitely be subscribing here on YT. Don't have a TikTok tho. I hope your comments improve over time and you get back a better audience 👍
I can never quite feel happy about situations like this because as you said it really shows that people literally don't care about morals.
I actually think your video exposing your "lie" was the perfect way to illustrate this phenomena more overtly. I think most people on the left have come to notice that these people don't care and are just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. In the end you were right, none of them cared about the actual morality, they didn't care that he lied to them, they only wanted to feel like they caused left leaning people distress in some way.
They employ the awful tactic of conclusions first, arguments later instead of deriving their opinions from the actual information. The reason you can never "win" an argument against people like this because they don't care about logic, they have their opinion and they're sticking to it no matter what.
You haven't lost any credibility in my mind. I learn a lot from you, both the content and the way you structure a debate, discussion or response and apply humor to all of it. I also can see that you have done some self-reflection and are willing to acknowledge you could or should have handled things differently. We are all humans and part of the human condition is that we make errors. The part that shows someone's true colors is what they do next, after the error.
Stepping back, assessing what we did, taking accountability/responsibility for it and figuring out how to do things differently or better in the future and then being transparent about what we did, learned and changed is the better 'next step'. People might consider giving this approach a whirl. It certainly *seems* to lead to better results compared to deflecting, denying, brushing things aside, feeling indignant rage.
Keep doing what you're doing, my dude.
Honestly good on you. Don't take criticism from people who just say shit without backing it up with facts.
“Being the better man is overrated,” - Huey Freeman
THANK YOU! I watch a lot of music reactors. I know they react to requests and that’s fine. What I don’t agree with is reacting to a known controversial song, then one sidedly agreeing that it’s just a song about “community” but not looking into WHY people are calling him out. It’s not just the song, it’s his history with racism. And I swear most of the commenters are bots or people with an agenda because these are not the type of people I have ever seen in the comments. Not once have I seen country music fans asking for more Aldean on hip hop and alternative reaction channels. Not once. Seems weird.
Having watched the whole video - I do agree there were better ways to handle it, but I also think that, to borrow and modify a quote from Michelle Obama: When they go low, we go high, and we kick ‘em in the teeth on the way up.
Yaaaayyyy! Soooo happy i found u on TH-cam bc I'm pretty much done with TT. Love you, Austin!! 🧡
Lol, that was awesome. I dont care how mad you made Jeff. Tell him he could write it off on his taxes. Theyre the only ones who can be deceitful it would appear, and then turn into snowflakes the minute someone "owns" them. Hahahahaha. You did a great job. Got a sub from me. People who lie a lot tend to get mad at being lied to very easily.
To my knowledge this is the first of your videos I've seen. Was not expecting to watch a man watch a video of him watching a video of...him.. was also not expecting to stay for the whole video (adhd)... very engaging! Your inceptionous video really held my brain in thrall. 😅🤘 I agree about the money, lol. Giving it to him would be the greater evil.
Thank you for typing out my exact thoughts.
I agree with everything you said except for the part that you feel like the info wasnt your best work. Dont let people who lie and pull shit outta their asses on the daily judge you for literally doing something with that 1000 dollars that Jeff would've never done. I applaud the entire thing.
Yay the algorithm gods favoured me today and led me to you! 💜
I didn't know who you are or what this was about and this video explained everything succinctly with humour and wit. Jeff just scored you a new fan! 😂
You’re absolutely amazing, my dude. If I had a thousand dollars I’d also use it to scam scammers by donating to charities 😂 If the other side doesn’t play fair and only cares about winning, why should we have some fun with it all while hurting literally nobody?
The only thing that got hurt was their ego. Dealing with that is their problem.
I follow you on TikTok and saw this is real time. I wasn’t sure how I felt about it when you donated the money, but just shrugged and thought that the money went to better use that way anyway.
I appreciate the more in depth take on it. And I tend to agree with your analysis here.
Jason Andean was also the singer preforming when the shooting at the route 91 harvest festival in Las Vegas happened and while he’s obviously not to blame for the shooting he basically showed no empathy whatsoever towards victims and survivors in the aftermath.
Finished this video now. Well done, and interesting. Lots of things you did during this process really reveal and detail the priorities of the conservative side.
Lying is something everyone does! The intent is what matters.
I hoped you were gonna do what you did when I saw the first tiktok about the money, and I wasn't let down. Thanks for being you. Good job.
Also, I never saw the "deep down" meme. Thanks for that, too.
I thought it was amazing work. I may be one new subscriber.. but as a black guy who deals with this type of stuff in real life and in my own prior content creation career.. I think you did great and I can't wait to see what else you do!
"I let you prove I was lying, now give me the money" is just not the win they think it is
You may have lied about about giving him money directly, but what you did with the money was admirable & that shows that you are the better person in the end. The people that got pissed about it are people that only care about themselves & money.