I noticed something about the VGC community most of them lack skill and instead of improving in the skill department they complain about something that cant really be proven.
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These are SUPER easy problems to solve, I just wish The Pokemon Company and GameFreak paid attention to real world people, yet they seem to actively ignore us. [SOLUTION] VGC should have a Pokemon Showdown style interface to dynamically craft competition teams with whatever IV/EV/Nature/Ability/Item/Moves they choose. These teams should ONLY be able to be used in online competitions, not within the mainline story gameplay. This would fix the issue of the needless grinding for competition mons, and offer a fair and equal starting position for would-be competitors. [STORY MODE] For what it is worth, when handled with care, the genning/bot community is one of the most lovely and sweet pokemon communities around, and happens to be a primary source of much of the hard data about the mechanics of competitive pokemon, thus pushing that community forward as well. My wish is that The Pokemon Company and GameFreak would put less restrictions on how people play through the main single player story mode game play. Personally, I do not take part in any genning activities during my initial playthrough, however once I reach the post-game, I like to play around in the world, and adjust attributes as desired, for example changing the gender of a mon I played through the game with that felt like it embodied that of the opposite gender, or setting a new ball type on one of my gentlemons. GameFreak would say these actions are illegal, and bannable offenses, yet they impact exactly zero people other than myself. The details matter, some people are reasonable, whereas others are less so. However there are paths forward that are available for GF and TPC to take, should they choose to.
Genning isn't even an issue as long as the stats fall within parameters, it just saves time. If you get some fulfillment breeding and raising the perfect mon for your team then good for you, do that, but not everyone has that kind of time and it doesn't take any skill away.
I hear you on your point that genning is absolutely hacking and against the rules of competitive play - however, the creation of the Pokémon themselves has never been the skill that tournaments test. If someone wants to save themselves the hours of grinding it takes to get the correct IVs, EVs, and Tera-types by genning, I don’t see the big deal. Obviously GameFreak cannot condone the use of 3rd party tools that mod a Switch, and so I understand why if you are caught with genned mons then you are banned. What I don’t understand is why players are upset about it
TL;DR: Thanks for watching the video, you made excellent points, and it is a very polarizing argument. I personally would only be mad if they genned in hard to optimize mon, like 0iv mons. First off, thanks you watching the video and commenting! It really means a lot to me! You bring up very good points! I think an issue players have with genned mons is that it gives those players more prep time for battles. Making a competitive team takes a lot of work and revisions, and players who gen teams cut out a lot of the in between time of making these Pokémons. I personally would only get upset if players genned hard to optimize mons like a 0iv attack gholdengo which is why I used it for this video. That being said, and argument can be made that since all players presumably have access to Pokémon showdown, team testing can be done there. Once your team is finalized, only then should you move to build the team in game. That is personally what I do for all of my teams I featured on my channel. People try to argue that the Pokémon showdown vgc metagame is different from the switch vgc metagame, but I think THAT argument is weak at best.
if i had to spend weeks trying to get a perfect IV spread Gholdengo and then faced someone who just genned theirs in 10 minutes i could see how thats annoying but nothing more, it wouldnt make a difference in the match so i still don't see the problem, it doesn't give an advantage to any side doing it one way or the other so who cares right?
The debate on “at the end of the day, only skills matter” is an interesting one. I think strong arguments are on both sides tbh! For example, someone could say during those weeks you spent trying to find your zero gholdengo, your opponent had ample time optimizing evs and get matches in. However, in defense of your stance, while you grind on the switch for your mon, you could also be playing battles with your team on Pokémon showdown. Again, it is a very interesting debate. I just wish game freak would give us a game where making viable Pokémon would be easy to do.
@@flenyoo The problem is, VGC tournaments come with financial and travel incentives. People can make thousands of dollars if they place well in regional and national tournaments. They also get plane tickets to worlds, as well as hotel reservations and a small stipend if I'm not mistaken. Someone who hacks and cheats is taking away an opportunity for someone who does things legitimately and grinded for hours, days and even weeks for the perfect team. They take these things a lot more seriously in Japan. If you are caught cheating there, you will not only be banned from future tournaments, but you will also have to pay back any prize money and travel stipends that you received. In some places like South Korea, you can even face charges for cheating in video games.
I never agree to genning pokemon too, but it is so normalized now that I can't afford to give a damn anymore. Hopefully Gamefreak make it easier for players too alter pokemons for competitive.
I've never played Pokemon competitively and haven't touched any of the games after Sun and Moon, but I can't imagine making optimized Pokemon with competitive stats legitimately. It feels like playing Chess, but to get one single Chess piece ready to play you need to grind 30 turn Mario Parties until you get a total of 20 bonus stars (stars on the board don't count) while also winning the game and rolling at least five 10's at some point in the game. SO much luck is involved, and even without luck it's a stupidly huge time investment into playing a game that's not really even like the strategic battle of wits that you're setting up to play to begin with. Chess is a game about planning and strategy, but first let's see if Toad will take all your stars in Chance Time to determine if you get to have your rook or not
Well team building isn’t so much lucked based, but rather time-intensive. It takes a LOT of time to build a team for various reasons. Pokémon sometimes has games with great team building mechanics, and others without. However, as someone who has played both chess and Pokémon competitively, I can say for certain that both are a battle of wits, just in two different languages. Competitive Pokémon players actually work around/control luck to play to their favor. Also, we actually do math (cringe) to guarantee certain things. This is actually a great video topic! ❤️
@@Tinixium Nothing will beat genning you can have like the pokemon ready in like 5 minutes even with all the improvements you still need to grind a lot of money for bottle caps and all the items its still a big time sink.
cool vid but also im not gonna buy a 3ds so I can get a trick room magearna to use in swsh. nor am I gonna complete the national dex to get an Original Form one. I enjoy using mons that have one of my OTs, and if I have to hack then so be it
A legitimate argument! They definitely need to distribute mythical mons more often. Thanks for watching the video! Edit: we also need a rusted bottle cap.
The good thing with the Paradox Pokemon is that at least with a good Sandwich Combo, you can force a lot of them to spawn constantly in Area Zero. But still, the fact there is no optimal way to quickly grind Tera Shards or decrease IVs as of now is pretty annoying. We can hope the DLC changes things, but who knows, maybe everything will stay the way it currently is.
If they lowered the cost for changing Tera types the problem will be solved, hopefully this gets updated in the future. I breed and Gen. And honestly just play for fun
Until gamefreak comes up with a more efficient way of getting competitive Pokémon, I don’t see the problem. The time sink is a huge gatekeep for anyone who wants to make “legitimate” Pokémon that are competitively built and if the meta changes in the time they’re doing that (which it most likely will) that’s time wasted. I understand if you enjoy the breeding but to shame people who don’t want to go through that process seems incredibly elitist and frankly stupid
With all due respect Connor, did you watch past the Omniman meme? I literally went on a whole tangent about how hard it is the make mons in gen 9, how gamefreak didn’t add an item to drop IVs, how hard it is to change tera types, and how strong Pokémon (gholdengo and some paradox mons) are incredibly hard to fully optimize legitimately. This video was not targeted at players but rather gamefreak. I’ll admit it was a little harsh to attack people who genned in gen8, but come on man! Watch the whole video! Lol! Also, the fact you called me elitist is funny. I am in grad school getting my PhD right now. I once told myself “You know me, you are the ratatouille of grad school, because you are providing anyone can get a PhD.”
@@Tinixium The comment wasnt targeted towards you, it was targeted towards the general audience, yes i did watch the video lol. i was just agreeing with you about almost all of the those points but summed up in a nice way that conveys my thoughts. GF needs to make competitive more user friendly (by allowing people to modify their pokemon in game without spending 30 hours to get enough tera shards for example) and people who make a big deal about genned pokemon need to tone it down (because competitively there is one difference, one took 5 minutes to make, the other took 5 days) and stop acting like theyre better because they got their pokemon "the legitimate way" I did thoroughly enjoy the meme and rag on gen 8 players, I think you just misunderstood my comment. Not any shade towards you or your ideas, I think you have a healthy balance of love for the game and criticism for the devs. It was more of a "I agree with you, heres also my thoughts" I will admit the usage of the word "you" makes it seem directed towads you personally, but it was more of a "you the reader" Hopefully yk what I mean. Glad to hear youve got a phd in ratatouille though! I'm a musician and Im actually working on writing a percussion ensemble thats based on one of the pieces from the soundtrack. Cheers!
I'm someone who is staunchly against using illegal save editing software to obtain easy to obtain Pokémon personally, but as long as the process of making a perfect Pokémon requires prep time in and of itself and neither process is short, how am I supposed to blame anyone who wants to obtain certain Pokémon in a battle ready state fast enough to practice with? Don't get me started on mythicals who's events are out of date..
I just wish game freak would make the process of making a competitive team simple that’s all I care about they take 5 steps forward but 10 steps backwards.
IMO it doesn't really make sense to hold judgement of genning Pokemon based on what generation it's done in. The entire purpose of genning in VGC is the belief that there shouldn't be a barrier to entry for competitive play beyond owning the required equipment. You brought up Black/White being notorious for how difficult it was to get Pokemon needed for competitive, which fuels the desire to gen. However, you brought up SwSh being so easy to obtain Pokemon that it's shameful to even be genning, at which it becomes kind of a pointless argument. If it's so easy to obtain Pokemon that genning doesn't save any time, then there's really no reason for people to be complaining about genning at all, since any advantage would no longer exist. Genning is always going to and always *should* exist as long as there is any sort of time to be saved due to the barrier to entry.
Hey Calvin, First off…um hi…really big fan of your VGC performance! Kind of a bit starstruck if this in fact the real Calvin. IMO, this video was mediocre, and my thoughts could have been more laid out than what they were. The whole idea came to mind when I was obtaining my Gholdengo for competitive play. I felt frustrated that one of the best pokemon in VGC (regulation A) was incredibly hard to obtain. These feelings mixed with my disappointment, and how the item “rusted bottle cap” was not included in the game. This further mixed with my feelings that paradox mons and gholdengo could not be bred either. Finally, the 50 tera shard requirement to change tera type was the last straw. I then said to myself “it’s like nintendo WANTS players to hack”, and boom that is how this video came to be. My beliefs on genning and how people obtain their pokemon are personal. Again, while I would never gen mons, at the end of day, the person sitting across from me will beat me due to skill, and team building preparations and not because they genned. While I do think that genning in some generations like gen 8 for example is kind of silly (except for niche mons, someone made a great point with magearna), I would never seriously discredit someone’s performance due to genning. Again, I honestly didn’t think this video would even reach someone like you. My average views are around 30-90. In the future, I will definitely make less controversial content, and this video was definitely a hard lesson learned. Don’t forget that you are loved and you matter. ❤️
@@Tinixium Appreciate the kind comments, didn't think I was big enough to have any fans haha And hey it's cool, I actually really like having conversations on the topic and every now and then I'll search around to see if anyone's talking about it. I apologize if it came off like I was trying to put you down for thinking that way, I'm just passionate about getting more people into the game and love the accessibility that genning enables. You should definitely keep doing you and don't let comments like mine from stopping you from speaking about what you want, it wasn't a bad video in any way.
Like you, I am very strict about where my Pokemon come from. I make sure every Pokemon I have is accounted for. All of my 5 IV dittos that I use for breeding were caught by me during the April 2020 easter max raid event. I take pictures of any hard-to-get pokemon like Psycho Boost Lugia and Dream Ball forces of nature so their legitimacy is never questioned. I would be a hypocrite if I criticized others for hacking because I used to do that back in the day. As of generation 7, I started to play 100% clean. I got rid of all my cheating devices and software, deleted all of my hacked save files as well as every hacked or modified pokemon I ever had and started all over again. I still have all the games as far back as generation 3 and I played them all again.
They need to make getting money easier in this game because vitamins are pricey AF. Swsh was much easier because I can just buy a shat ton of Luxury balls with my Watts, and make alot of money that way
I think the reason people complain is because in gen 8 there was a bug where not hacked Pokémon could still get you banned from online play (or at the very least there were rumors of such a bug), and some people who remember this are worried that if it’s implemented again, they’ll lose everything. Or they don’t want to be labeled as a cheater, since in gen 9 it’s about as easy to get competitive Pokémon as gen 7, where it CAN be tedious, but still achievable in a short enough time frame, and as others have mentioned, the skill doesn’t lie in the training, but instead the thought that goes into what to train, how to train it, and how you use the ‘mons in battles. My stance is that it’s technically fine if the Pokémon was possible to obtain in game, but if it’s obtainable in game and you have the time to grind for it, just grind for it. The cheating gives you time, but for testing you could just use showdown to run calcs, and you risk permanent disqualification. If you’re in a situation where it’s your only option then just sit out the tournament and get ready for the next one. (From the perspective of someone who has not competed in a Pokémon tournament)
You can literally gen them to make them undetectable. Literally sets the gen'd mon to your switch ID and player ID and will always ensure that it shows you hatched it or discovered it where you would in game. These tools won't let you gen them if any of the things you've requested wouldn't be possible or considered illegal. I have never gen'd a mon before in my life until tera raids became a thing. I have breed for every mon I've ever owned until this gen and honestly up until a few weeks ago. Grinding tera shards, and as quick as the meta changes where you need to CHANGE your tera type, are no longer worth my time considering the only people still doing tera raids are a liability. That means for me to farm them it takes me hours to collect 2-4 each raid. If pokemon would literally just give us a way to get 0 IV bottle caps and a better way to get tera shards I wouldn't even think about genning them as I've been doing this so long that I can get a perfect mon in my sleep... However, the alternative is that I wouldn't play the game if I had to farm tera raids solo just to be able to play a new mon let alone 6 in my team.
Yeah. I will never use hacked mons, but my feelings towards hacking in gen 9 are starting to look similar to how they are in gen 5. I really hope that the DLC gives us some mechanics to improve the grind to getting good Pokémon. Thank you for watching the video and commenting! Means a lot to me!
@@Tinixium they always add a QoL improvement for breeding 1 gen and then remove it the following. They need to just give us a way to customize our own mons in the post game. It's a shame that I can literally get 2 shiny Iron Valiants in 15 min, usually a shiny with a mark in a matter of 2 hours but I can't reset my EVs anymore... And not a problem, enjoyed the vid! I think if anything is to get better then we need to at least start the discussion somewhere
True. At the end of the day, it all comes down to skill and who prepped better/has the better match up. However, while most of the community agrees with this logic, the morality of the issue of hacking vs players who actually take the time (about 4-5 hours based on what have/need) to build teams is just kind of icky. Like one of those things you can do legally, but morally is kind of wrong. Thanks for watching the video! You are loved and you matter! 🥰❤️
@Tinixium Trust me I'm right there against it but how far the company and most the community have fallen I prefer to prove it on the field and show the hours that we put into our teams because we care about the game. Let the try hards rush it still won't hold a candle to the legal players.
@Tinixium it's definitely not morally wrong to Gen legal pokemon and use it in competitive battles if u can Gen the pokemon for a good team u clearly know what your doing .. their is no skill in grinding for hours on a game a 5 year old can beat
@Tinixium it's like it's morally wrong because it's somehow unfair it's not unfair that I took the time to learn how to Gen pokemon u have that information to everybody does shouldn't be morally wrong to use tech skills to your own benefit
For me, I think the most annoying part of it, is the competitive ruleset being so wishiwashi (hehe) about it. The recent controversy will be discussed in my next video
I don’t really want my channel to be a drama one, but I have decided that I will! Issues won’t get fixed unless you are vocal! I feel like they had 3 major controversies. Hoping to get it out relatively soon!
As long as making a team of in game competitive ready pokemon takes more than 5 minutes, genning in Pokemon will always be the way for most people who have lives lol. Inwant to get on and play the game TONIGHT not make the tram tonight snd play the game tomorrow. Even the in game battles are just so slow and the online is so sketchy that I just play on showdown exclusively now since.its no time investment at all and all fun
Hacking pokemon in changes nothing about the skill involved in the actual battle. People who look down on hacking totally legal mons into the game just have a weird sense of pride about wasting a lot of time
50 tera shards required Still no bottle caps for 0 ivs Getting ability patches take ages No access to legendaries allowed in ReG D if you don't have the older games 999 coins to evolve ghimigoul Picnics kinda suck People still gen for a reason bro
Yeah…I really wish that pokemon was more conscious of vgc when they made their games! Thanks for watching video! Be sure to check out other content if it fits your fancy! ❤️
GF should introduce something in game for the competitive part, grinding for a mon, for a team that you'll be probably using for less than 1 month is ridicolous... genning doesn't affect a pokemon battle anyways, so there's literally no difference between legit or hacked mon
If I have to make a huge correction in one of my mon's set (eg an egg move) I should be making a new mon from beginning, literally pointless (yes you could also use showdown, but I think the meta is a bit different from the battlespot). I hope (but GF surely won't introduce it) there'll be something less time-consuming for team building in-game, in that case people won't even think about genning lol
@@chapus4641 you can use mirror herbs to get egg moves now. No need to start from scratch, simply put the 2 mons together in a picnic, one with egg move, one with an open move slot while holding the mirror herb and you get the move.
@@TS-uu4hp not a bad argument, still I mostly enjoy investing time experiencing the meta than grinding; if you have the time for breeding and do all that stuff so be it
Literally who cares if they’re hacked it’s a huge time saver and at the end of the day you can’t even tell they’re hacked so it’s like pouring a glass of water instead of waiting for ice to melt
Tbh that is an uber good analogy! Again, as I have expressed in other comments, my qualm is not with people who choose to gen pokemon, but rather gamefreak as a whole seemingly creating an environment that encourages it. At the end of the day, if I go to a competition and lose, it is due to my opponent’s skill and not due to hacking. This video was actually made in frustration over gholdengo and tera shards, and was largely impulsive. It is a HEATED debate and both sides have great points (such as your comment). Tbh, if I could go back in time, I would have avoided such a polarizing topic altogether. Maybe if I put this much effort in my other videos I would have more subscribers lol.
Actually they don't... But I don't think is because they approve it... I think is more like we don't want to stop it and it doesn't annoys enough Not ok but I can always laugh at SUPER HACKED mons
I haven't played competitive since sun and moon, but if the pokegen pokemon is exactly like the the original. Is it really an unfair advantage? Back in the day (gens 1, 2 and 3) ppl would over spect their pokemon with glitches and whatnot and that's why it was unfair. The opponents pokemon was literally off the charts, but now the hackmons use regular parameters and abilities so what's the point in arguing? The only difference I see is time. And dont blame ppl for hacking in this scenario. why? Because we are all adults now, we have jobs. We don't have the time to do the grind anymore. This why nowadays I mainly just play on pokemon showdown, that way neither me or the opponent gets angry for a potential hack pokemon. That's way I think rental teams in pokemon scarlet and violet are an amazing 1th step in the right direction for pokemon and why I think arguing about hacked pokemons is pointless. But again I have no idea how bad the situation is on the switch games.
Back when you played pokemon, getting competitive mons was nearly impossible. However, a lot of mechanics have been in put in place to alleviate this. As I said in the video, gen 8 was the best gen for getting competitive Pokémon. Unfortunately, Gen 9 took a huge step back in my opinion. This is why, I blame gamefreak and *not* the players. To put it short, tera shard farming and viable pokemon not being able to be IV breed AND no way to artificially lower IVs, promotes the hacking environment. These were the points I was trying to address in the video, but admittedly my script was mediocre. Still kind if new to content creation lol. Finally, I don’t think that the discussion of hacking mons is pointless. It ruins the integrity of the game if the only way to do well competitively, is to hack the game. Again this gamefreak’s fault, not the players. Thank you for watching my video and commenting your opinions. Don’t forget that you are loved and you matter.
@Tinixium mediocre!? Dude, your fine. Other TH-camrs need to shill. I commented a similar view in one video form another well known youtuber and he went nuts insulating me. This was back when wulfey won a tournament with his endeavor raichu and ppl were debating whether or not its was a hacked raichu. Keep doing your own thing
genned pokemon dont change the battle experience at all i dont understand why people sit here and complain if your opponent spent 3 weeks breeding and grinding a team vs just taking 5 mins to gen it, you're battle out come is going to be the same some people have a life and dont want to grind multiple teams to battle, when you can just gen it and just start battling. this argument is just cry babies that cant play VGC and find a excuse of why they lost by saying, well you genned your pokemon and i spent time making the team but the genned pokemon have all legit stats you would have lost regardless.
I’ll be real now that I’m an adult I genuinely do not care like unless you hack in moves or stats Pokémon are just virtual stat sticks. Truly unless you add abilities moves or stats ur a loser if you think people should be banned for rooms that are fair other than method of attainment
Thank you! I am working hard to learn how to make higher quality stuff on a consistent level. Next time, I will pick a less polarizing topic though lol!
You're correct, POKEMON is literally about catching and "training" pokemon to battle. It's literally about you becoming the best trainer but nope, let's just do it the easy way. People are lazy, and just want to get into pvp so they just don't do it. It will never go away. Only way to fix it is to just have pvp mode like showdown where you can just make your own team with any iv/evs/nature. It's kinda embarrassing really cause pokemon is the only game that let's you used "hacked" anything in official tournament 😆. Imagine Olympics and instead of training and getting better in a sport I'll just use steroids and get ahead of everyone. Yes it has happened in Olympics before but it's against the rules and will get you banned. Only on pokemon do they not care lol.
The point of Pokémon is to win in battles and have skill in pivoting and actually playing the game. Should you have to build your own tennis racket to play tennis or should you practice actually playing it?
It's always wild to me that people try to *actually* use steroids as an argument against genning. With Pokemon there is a very clear set limit to the ability a Pokemon can have and a clear stopping point in regards to that. Steroids are a problem for a few different reasons: - They affect people differently (they don't put you to a set limit and stop) - They not only affect people differently, they typically push a person past anything they would achieve naturally (unless they do no training whatsoever, in which case they're likely to lose anyway) - There are health risks associated with taking steroids Allowing steroids essentially forces athletes to risk their health and try to get lucky enough to be the best, which is a great way to kill the sport. If it was really about "catching" you wouldn't be able to just get all your Pokemon from a friend who does the work for you. If it was really about "training" you wouldn't be able to stick a Pokemon in a storage box and take it out later with the exact same abilities it had before. People need to keep training to maintain themselves, there is actually merit to the training being put in compared to Pokemon where that's not needed once you hit a certain point (unless you decide to switch spreads/movesets around). "People are lazy and just want to get into pvp so they just don't do it" - No, they want to spend their time practicing, which is much more meaningful. You're never going to get better at battling if you spend all your time catching and breeding. People want to reallocate their time to battling so that they can actually get better at playing the game, not doing unnecessary grinding. As things stand right now, any player has the ability to gen Pokemon for free, without any technical knowledge, and no risk of getting caught (unless they're trying to). This makes the game way more accessible to anyone wants to play at a high level, while also allowing us to increase the overall skill level of the game, leading to a more entertaining competition for spectators.
Its a video game the pokemon aren't real stop caring about how they are obtained people just have lives and don't want to spend all their free time on bike simulator and just want to get some battles in. And pokemon doesn't allow hacked pokemon in tournaments but the official hack checks are worse then the ones built into the genning programs so you can easily have hacked pokemon that appear legit.
@cosmicsvids it's literally considered a competitive sport and a real job for people lol. You at home you can do what you want but at your job you can't cheat the system. That's why multiple champions have been caught and disqualified before
I noticed something about the VGC community most of them lack skill and instead of improving in the skill department they complain about something that cant really be proven.
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These are SUPER easy problems to solve, I just wish The Pokemon Company and GameFreak paid attention to real world people, yet they seem to actively ignore us.
[SOLUTION] VGC should have a Pokemon Showdown style interface to dynamically craft competition teams with whatever IV/EV/Nature/Ability/Item/Moves they choose. These teams should ONLY be able to be used in online competitions, not within the mainline story gameplay. This would fix the issue of the needless grinding for competition mons, and offer a fair and equal starting position for would-be competitors.
[STORY MODE] For what it is worth, when handled with care, the genning/bot community is one of the most lovely and sweet pokemon communities around, and happens to be a primary source of much of the hard data about the mechanics of competitive pokemon, thus pushing that community forward as well. My wish is that The Pokemon Company and GameFreak would put less restrictions on how people play through the main single player story mode game play. Personally, I do not take part in any genning activities during my initial playthrough, however once I reach the post-game, I like to play around in the world, and adjust attributes as desired, for example changing the gender of a mon I played through the game with that felt like it embodied that of the opposite gender, or setting a new ball type on one of my gentlemons. GameFreak would say these actions are illegal, and bannable offenses, yet they impact exactly zero people other than myself.
The details matter, some people are reasonable, whereas others are less so. However there are paths forward that are available for GF and TPC to take, should they choose to.
PS- Great video Tinixium
Genning isn't even an issue as long as the stats fall within parameters, it just saves time. If you get some fulfillment breeding and raising the perfect mon for your team then good for you, do that, but not everyone has that kind of time and it doesn't take any skill away.
I hear you on your point that genning is absolutely hacking and against the rules of competitive play - however, the creation of the Pokémon themselves has never been the skill that tournaments test. If someone wants to save themselves the hours of grinding it takes to get the correct IVs, EVs, and Tera-types by genning, I don’t see the big deal. Obviously GameFreak cannot condone the use of 3rd party tools that mod a Switch, and so I understand why if you are caught with genned mons then you are banned. What I don’t understand is why players are upset about it
TL;DR: Thanks for watching the video, you made excellent points, and it is a very polarizing argument. I personally would only be mad if they genned in hard to optimize mon, like 0iv mons.
First off, thanks you watching the video and commenting! It really means a lot to me!
You bring up very good points! I think an issue players have with genned mons is that it gives those players more prep time for battles. Making a competitive team takes a lot of work and revisions, and players who gen teams cut out a lot of the in between time of making these Pokémons. I personally would only get upset if players genned hard to optimize mons like a 0iv attack gholdengo which is why I used it for this video.
That being said, and argument can be made that since all players presumably have access to Pokémon showdown, team testing can be done there. Once your team is finalized, only then should you move to build the team in game. That is personally what I do for all of my teams I featured on my channel. People try to argue that the Pokémon showdown vgc metagame is different from the switch vgc metagame, but I think THAT argument is weak at best.
if i had to spend weeks trying to get a perfect IV spread Gholdengo and then faced someone who just genned theirs in 10 minutes i could see how thats annoying but nothing more, it wouldnt make a difference in the match so i still don't see the problem, it doesn't give an advantage to any side doing it one way or the other so who cares right?
The debate on “at the end of the day, only skills matter” is an interesting one. I think strong arguments are on both sides tbh! For example, someone could say during those weeks you spent trying to find your zero gholdengo, your opponent had ample time optimizing evs and get matches in. However, in defense of your stance, while you grind on the switch for your mon, you could also be playing battles with your team on Pokémon showdown.
Again, it is a very interesting debate. I just wish game freak would give us a game where making viable Pokémon would be easy to do.
yeah it shouldnt be so much of a hassle to make a single team especially considering how the "meta" may change throughout a gen
@@flenyoo The problem is, VGC tournaments come with financial and travel incentives. People can make thousands of dollars if they place well in regional and national tournaments. They also get plane tickets to worlds, as well as hotel reservations and a small stipend if I'm not mistaken. Someone who hacks and cheats is taking away an opportunity for someone who does things legitimately and grinded for hours, days and even weeks for the perfect team. They take these things a lot more seriously in Japan. If you are caught cheating there, you will not only be banned from future tournaments, but you will also have to pay back any prize money and travel stipends that you received. In some places like South Korea, you can even face charges for cheating in video games.
gamefreak could easily end this by adding the pokemon showdown teambuilder in game and calling it "rentals"
I never agree to genning pokemon too, but it is so normalized now that I can't afford to give a damn anymore. Hopefully Gamefreak make it easier for players too alter pokemons for competitive.
Facts. They really need a VGC player in the room when they are designing the games!
Thanks for commenting and watching the video!
I've never played Pokemon competitively and haven't touched any of the games after Sun and Moon, but I can't imagine making optimized Pokemon with competitive stats legitimately. It feels like playing Chess, but to get one single Chess piece ready to play you need to grind 30 turn Mario Parties until you get a total of 20 bonus stars (stars on the board don't count) while also winning the game and rolling at least five 10's at some point in the game. SO much luck is involved, and even without luck it's a stupidly huge time investment into playing a game that's not really even like the strategic battle of wits that you're setting up to play to begin with. Chess is a game about planning and strategy, but first let's see if Toad will take all your stars in Chance Time to determine if you get to have your rook or not
Well team building isn’t so much lucked based, but rather time-intensive. It takes a LOT of time to build a team for various reasons. Pokémon sometimes has games with great team building mechanics, and others without. However, as someone who has played both chess and Pokémon competitively, I can say for certain that both are a battle of wits, just in two different languages. Competitive Pokémon players actually work around/control luck to play to their favor. Also, we actually do math (cringe) to guarantee certain things. This is actually a great video topic! ❤️
@@Tinixium Nothing will beat genning you can have like the pokemon ready in like 5 minutes even with all the improvements you still need to grind a lot of money for bottle caps and all the items its still a big time sink.
cool vid but also im not gonna buy a 3ds so I can get a trick room magearna to use in swsh. nor am I gonna complete the national dex to get an Original Form one. I enjoy using mons that have one of my OTs, and if I have to hack then so be it
A legitimate argument! They definitely need to distribute mythical mons more often. Thanks for watching the video!
Edit: we also need a rusted bottle cap.
Competitive players: "we are definitely getting an item that can drop the it's to zero in the dlc copium"
Let me be delusional! I know we will get a rusted bottle cap some day! Just like my dad will be back with the milk…he will be…I know it…
The good thing with the Paradox Pokemon is that at least with a good Sandwich Combo, you can force a lot of them to spawn constantly in Area Zero.
But still, the fact there is no optimal way to quickly grind Tera Shards or decrease IVs as of now is pretty annoying. We can hope the DLC changes things, but who knows, maybe everything will stay the way it currently is.
If they lowered the cost for changing Tera types the problem will be solved, hopefully this gets updated in the future. I breed and Gen. And honestly just play for fun
I honestly hope they add more features to get more competitive Pokémon faster. Thanks for watching the video!
Beside the Example Gholdengo matter of the IV on ATK I’m fine unless it’s not like Gen 1 or 2 where they have like 1000 HP
Stop complaining Verlisify Jr. We get it.
What is a “verlisify”?
Until gamefreak comes up with a more efficient way of getting competitive Pokémon, I don’t see the problem. The time sink is a huge gatekeep for anyone who wants to make “legitimate” Pokémon that are competitively built and if the meta changes in the time they’re doing that (which it most likely will) that’s time wasted. I understand if you enjoy the breeding but to shame people who don’t want to go through that process seems incredibly elitist and frankly stupid
With all due respect Connor, did you watch past the Omniman meme? I literally went on a whole tangent about how hard it is the make mons in gen 9, how gamefreak didn’t add an item to drop IVs, how hard it is to change tera types, and how strong Pokémon (gholdengo and some paradox mons) are incredibly hard to fully optimize legitimately. This video was not targeted at players but rather gamefreak. I’ll admit it was a little harsh to attack people who genned in gen8, but come on man! Watch the whole video! Lol!
Also, the fact you called me elitist is funny. I am in grad school getting my PhD right now. I once told myself “You know me, you are the ratatouille of grad school, because you are providing anyone can get a PhD.”
@@Tinixium The comment wasnt targeted towards you, it was targeted towards the general audience, yes i did watch the video lol. i was just agreeing with you about almost all of the those points but summed up in a nice way that conveys my thoughts. GF needs to make competitive more user friendly (by allowing people to modify their pokemon in game without spending 30 hours to get enough tera shards for example) and people who make a big deal about genned pokemon need to tone it down (because competitively there is one difference, one took 5 minutes to make, the other took 5 days) and stop acting like theyre better because they got their pokemon "the legitimate way" I did thoroughly enjoy the meme and rag on gen 8 players, I think you just misunderstood my comment. Not any shade towards you or your ideas, I think you have a healthy balance of love for the game and criticism for the devs. It was more of a "I agree with you, heres also my thoughts" I will admit the usage of the word "you" makes it seem directed towads you personally, but it was more of a "you the reader" Hopefully yk what I mean. Glad to hear youve got a phd in ratatouille though! I'm a musician and Im actually working on writing a percussion ensemble thats based on one of the pieces from the soundtrack. Cheers!
Lol oof. My apologies! Sorry to have misinterpreted your comment!
I'm someone who is staunchly against using illegal save editing software to obtain easy to obtain Pokémon personally, but as long as the process of making a perfect Pokémon requires prep time in and of itself and neither process is short, how am I supposed to blame anyone who wants to obtain certain Pokémon in a battle ready state fast enough to practice with? Don't get me started on mythicals who's events are out of date..
So it's wrong to gen pokemon that are easy to get 🤔 but not wrong to Gen pokemon that are hard to get .. that makes no sense .. get over it
@@lilwoodiewood3457 what does this even mean
I just wish game freak would make the process of making a competitive team simple that’s all I care about they take 5 steps forward but 10 steps backwards.
Yeah I definitely feel as though they need at least one vgc player in the room when they come up with team building mechanics for their games lol
IMO it doesn't really make sense to hold judgement of genning Pokemon based on what generation it's done in. The entire purpose of genning in VGC is the belief that there shouldn't be a barrier to entry for competitive play beyond owning the required equipment.
You brought up Black/White being notorious for how difficult it was to get Pokemon needed for competitive, which fuels the desire to gen. However, you brought up SwSh being so easy to obtain Pokemon that it's shameful to even be genning, at which it becomes kind of a pointless argument. If it's so easy to obtain Pokemon that genning doesn't save any time, then there's really no reason for people to be complaining about genning at all, since any advantage would no longer exist.
Genning is always going to and always *should* exist as long as there is any sort of time to be saved due to the barrier to entry.
Hey Calvin,
First off…um hi…really big fan of your VGC performance! Kind of a bit starstruck if this in fact the real Calvin.
IMO, this video was mediocre, and my thoughts could have been more laid out than what they were.
The whole idea came to mind when I was obtaining my Gholdengo for competitive play. I felt frustrated that one of the best pokemon in VGC (regulation A) was incredibly hard to obtain. These feelings mixed with my disappointment, and how the item “rusted bottle cap” was not included in the game. This further mixed with my feelings that paradox mons and gholdengo could not be bred either. Finally, the 50 tera shard requirement to change tera type was the last straw. I then said to myself “it’s like nintendo WANTS players to hack”, and boom that is how this video came to be.
My beliefs on genning and how people obtain their pokemon are personal. Again, while I would never gen mons, at the end of day, the person sitting across from me will beat me due to skill, and team building preparations and not because they genned. While I do think that genning in some generations like gen 8 for example is kind of silly (except for niche mons, someone made a great point with magearna), I would never seriously discredit someone’s performance due to genning.
Again, I honestly didn’t think this video would even reach someone like you. My average views are around 30-90. In the future, I will definitely make less controversial content, and this video was definitely a hard lesson learned.
Don’t forget that you are loved and you matter. ❤️
@@Tinixium Appreciate the kind comments, didn't think I was big enough to have any fans haha
And hey it's cool, I actually really like having conversations on the topic and every now and then I'll search around to see if anyone's talking about it.
I apologize if it came off like I was trying to put you down for thinking that way, I'm just passionate about getting more people into the game and love the accessibility that genning enables.
You should definitely keep doing you and don't let comments like mine from stopping you from speaking about what you want, it wasn't a bad video in any way.
Like you, I am very strict about where my Pokemon come from. I make sure every Pokemon I have is accounted for. All of my 5 IV dittos that I use for breeding were caught by me during the April 2020 easter max raid event. I take pictures of any hard-to-get pokemon like Psycho Boost Lugia and Dream Ball forces of nature so their legitimacy is never questioned. I would be a hypocrite if I criticized others for hacking because I used to do that back in the day. As of generation 7, I started to play 100% clean. I got rid of all my cheating devices and software, deleted all of my hacked save files as well as every hacked or modified pokemon I ever had and started all over again. I still have all the games as far back as generation 3 and I played them all again.
Awesome! Let’s hope gamefreak starts to make getting good/optimized Pokémon easier!
They need to make getting money easier in this game because vitamins are pricey AF. Swsh was much easier because I can just buy a shat ton of Luxury balls with my Watts, and make alot of money that way
Scarlet and Violet emulate my real life financial situations now. Gotta respect their attempt at hyper realism.
I think the reason people complain is because in gen 8 there was a bug where not hacked Pokémon could still get you banned from online play (or at the very least there were rumors of such a bug), and some people who remember this are worried that if it’s implemented again, they’ll lose everything.
Or they don’t want to be labeled as a cheater, since in gen 9 it’s about as easy to get competitive Pokémon as gen 7, where it CAN be tedious, but still achievable in a short enough time frame, and as others have mentioned, the skill doesn’t lie in the training, but instead the thought that goes into what to train, how to train it, and how you use the ‘mons in battles.
My stance is that it’s technically fine if the Pokémon was possible to obtain in game, but if it’s obtainable in game and you have the time to grind for it, just grind for it. The cheating gives you time, but for testing you could just use showdown to run calcs, and you risk permanent disqualification. If you’re in a situation where it’s your only option then just sit out the tournament and get ready for the next one. (From the perspective of someone who has not competed in a Pokémon tournament)
You can literally gen them to make them undetectable. Literally sets the gen'd mon to your switch ID and player ID and will always ensure that it shows you hatched it or discovered it where you would in game. These tools won't let you gen them if any of the things you've requested wouldn't be possible or considered illegal. I have never gen'd a mon before in my life until tera raids became a thing. I have breed for every mon I've ever owned until this gen and honestly up until a few weeks ago. Grinding tera shards, and as quick as the meta changes where you need to CHANGE your tera type, are no longer worth my time considering the only people still doing tera raids are a liability. That means for me to farm them it takes me hours to collect 2-4 each raid.
If pokemon would literally just give us a way to get 0 IV bottle caps and a better way to get tera shards I wouldn't even think about genning them as I've been doing this so long that I can get a perfect mon in my sleep... However, the alternative is that I wouldn't play the game if I had to farm tera raids solo just to be able to play a new mon let alone 6 in my team.
Yeah. I will never use hacked mons, but my feelings towards hacking in gen 9 are starting to look similar to how they are in gen 5. I really hope that the DLC gives us some mechanics to improve the grind to getting good Pokémon.
Thank you for watching the video and commenting! Means a lot to me!
@@Tinixium they always add a QoL improvement for breeding 1 gen and then remove it the following. They need to just give us a way to customize our own mons in the post game. It's a shame that I can literally get 2 shiny Iron Valiants in 15 min, usually a shiny with a mark in a matter of 2 hours but I can't reset my EVs anymore... And not a problem, enjoyed the vid! I think if anything is to get better then we need to at least start the discussion somewhere
Heard mixed feelings that because the game doesn't know the difference it's still legal. It comes down to a skull issue no challenge as of yet.
True. At the end of the day, it all comes down to skill and who prepped better/has the better match up. However, while most of the community agrees with this logic, the morality of the issue of hacking vs players who actually take the time (about 4-5 hours based on what have/need) to build teams is just kind of icky. Like one of those things you can do legally, but morally is kind of wrong.
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@Tinixium Trust me I'm right there against it but how far the company and most the community have fallen I prefer to prove it on the field and show the hours that we put into our teams because we care about the game. Let the try hards rush it still won't hold a candle to the legal players.
@Tinixium it's definitely not morally wrong to Gen legal pokemon and use it in competitive battles if u can Gen the pokemon for a good team u clearly know what your doing .. their is no skill in grinding for hours on a game a 5 year old can beat
@Tinixium it's like it's morally wrong because it's somehow unfair it's not unfair that I took the time to learn how to Gen pokemon u have that information to everybody does shouldn't be morally wrong to use tech skills to your own benefit
For me, I think the most annoying part of it, is the competitive ruleset being so wishiwashi (hehe) about it. The recent controversy will be discussed in my next video
You summed up the issue better than Verlisify did
Pokemon Worlds was interesting change. You going to talk about it?
I don’t really want my channel to be a drama one, but I have decided that I will! Issues won’t get fixed unless you are vocal! I feel like they had 3 major controversies. Hoping to get it out relatively soon!
As long as making a team of in game competitive ready pokemon takes more than 5 minutes, genning in Pokemon will always be the way for most people who have lives lol. Inwant to get on and play the game TONIGHT not make the tram tonight snd play the game tomorrow. Even the in game battles are just so slow and the online is so sketchy that I just play on showdown exclusively now since.its no time investment at all and all fun
Hacking pokemon in changes nothing about the skill involved in the actual battle. People who look down on hacking totally legal mons into the game just have a weird sense of pride about wasting a lot of time
I would be ok if it took maximum 1 hour because you can also reuse those pokemon later if needed. But how it is right now I will always gen
Showdown has garbage graphics and looks like a website from the early 2000s i much prefer better visuals and animations then the battles be fast.
50 tera shards required
Still no bottle caps for 0 ivs
Getting ability patches take ages
No access to legendaries allowed in ReG D if you don't have the older games
999 coins to evolve ghimigoul
Picnics kinda suck
People still gen for a reason bro
Yeah…I really wish that pokemon was more conscious of vgc when they made their games!
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why is the whole video blurred, my eyes hurt
Apologies, Kenny! I will definitely take this into consideration for the next video! Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
GF should introduce something in game for the competitive part, grinding for a mon, for a team that you'll be probably using for less than 1 month is ridicolous... genning doesn't affect a pokemon battle anyways, so there's literally no difference between legit or hacked mon
If I have to make a huge correction in one of my mon's set (eg an egg move) I should be making a new mon from beginning, literally pointless (yes you could also use showdown, but I think the meta is a bit different from the battlespot).
I hope (but GF surely won't introduce it) there'll be something less time-consuming for team building in-game, in that case people won't even think about genning lol
I'll save the luck for the brutal ammount of rng in game see ya
@@chapus4641 you can use mirror herbs to get egg moves now. No need to start from scratch, simply put the 2 mons together in a picnic, one with egg move, one with an open move slot while holding the mirror herb and you get the move.
@@TS-uu4hp not a bad argument, still I mostly enjoy investing time experiencing the meta than grinding; if you have the time for breeding and do all that stuff so be it
If RNG makes you this upset, many this isn’t the game for you…
(Either that or don’t use will-o-wisp 😅)
Literally who cares if they’re hacked it’s a huge time saver and at the end of the day you can’t even tell they’re hacked so it’s like pouring a glass of water instead of waiting for ice to melt
Tbh that is an uber good analogy! Again, as I have expressed in other comments, my qualm is not with people who choose to gen pokemon, but rather gamefreak as a whole seemingly creating an environment that encourages it. At the end of the day, if I go to a competition and lose, it is due to my opponent’s skill and not due to hacking. This video was actually made in frustration over gholdengo and tera shards, and was largely impulsive. It is a HEATED debate and both sides have great points (such as your comment).
Tbh, if I could go back in time, I would have avoided such a polarizing topic altogether. Maybe if I put this much effort in my other videos I would have more subscribers lol.
@@Tinixium yea there’s no reason why changing teras should cost so much when raids give so few
Actually they don't...
But I don't think is because they approve it... I think is more like we don't want to stop it and it doesn't annoys enough
Not ok but I can always laugh at SUPER HACKED mons
I haven't played competitive since sun and moon, but if the pokegen pokemon is exactly like the the original. Is it really an unfair advantage? Back in the day (gens 1, 2 and 3) ppl would over spect their pokemon with glitches and whatnot and that's why it was unfair. The opponents pokemon was literally off the charts, but now the hackmons use regular parameters and abilities so what's the point in arguing? The only difference I see is time. And dont blame ppl for hacking in this scenario. why? Because we are all adults now, we have jobs. We don't have the time to do the grind anymore. This why nowadays I mainly just play on pokemon showdown, that way neither me or the opponent gets angry for a potential hack pokemon. That's way I think rental teams in pokemon scarlet and violet are an amazing 1th step in the right direction for pokemon and why I think arguing about hacked pokemons is pointless. But again I have no idea how bad the situation is on the switch games.
Back when you played pokemon, getting competitive mons was nearly impossible. However, a lot of mechanics have been in put in place to alleviate this. As I said in the video, gen 8 was the best gen for getting competitive Pokémon. Unfortunately, Gen 9 took a huge step back in my opinion. This is why, I blame gamefreak and *not* the players.
To put it short, tera shard farming and viable pokemon not being able to be IV breed AND no way to artificially lower IVs, promotes the hacking environment. These were the points I was trying to address in the video, but admittedly my script was mediocre. Still kind if new to content creation lol.
Finally, I don’t think that the discussion of hacking mons is pointless. It ruins the integrity of the game if the only way to do well competitively, is to hack the game. Again this gamefreak’s fault, not the players.
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@Tinixium mediocre!? Dude, your fine. Other TH-camrs need to shill. I commented a similar view in one video form another well known youtuber and he went nuts insulating me. This was back when wulfey won a tournament with his endeavor raichu and ppl were debating whether or not its was a hacked raichu. Keep doing your own thing
speak that truth brother
genned pokemon dont change the battle experience at all i dont understand why people sit here and complain if your opponent spent 3 weeks breeding and grinding a team vs just taking 5 mins to gen it, you're battle out come is going to be the same some people have a life and dont want to grind multiple teams to battle, when you can just gen it and just start battling. this argument is just cry babies that cant play VGC and find a excuse of why they lost by saying, well you genned your pokemon and i spent time making the team but the genned pokemon have all legit stats you would have lost regardless.
I’ll be real now that I’m an adult I genuinely do not care like unless you hack in moves or stats Pokémon are just virtual stat sticks. Truly unless you add abilities moves or stats ur a loser if you think people should be banned for rooms that are fair other than method of attainment
This is a very high quality video! You deserve more subscribers!
Thank you! I am working hard to learn how to make higher quality stuff on a consistent level. Next time, I will pick a less polarizing topic though lol!
oh my god - no one cares
You're correct, POKEMON is literally about catching and "training" pokemon to battle. It's literally about you becoming the best trainer but nope, let's just do it the easy way. People are lazy, and just want to get into pvp so they just don't do it. It will never go away. Only way to fix it is to just have pvp mode like showdown where you can just make your own team with any iv/evs/nature. It's kinda embarrassing really cause pokemon is the only game that let's you used "hacked" anything in official tournament 😆. Imagine Olympics and instead of training and getting better in a sport I'll just use steroids and get ahead of everyone. Yes it has happened in Olympics before but it's against the rules and will get you banned. Only on pokemon do they not care lol.
The point of Pokémon is to win in battles and have skill in pivoting and actually playing the game. Should you have to build your own tennis racket to play tennis or should you practice actually playing it?
It's always wild to me that people try to *actually* use steroids as an argument against genning.
With Pokemon there is a very clear set limit to the ability a Pokemon can have and a clear stopping point in regards to that.
Steroids are a problem for a few different reasons:
- They affect people differently (they don't put you to a set limit and stop)
- They not only affect people differently, they typically push a person past anything they would achieve naturally (unless they do no training whatsoever, in which case they're likely to lose anyway)
- There are health risks associated with taking steroids
Allowing steroids essentially forces athletes to risk their health and try to get lucky enough to be the best, which is a great way to kill the sport.
If it was really about "catching" you wouldn't be able to just get all your Pokemon from a friend who does the work for you.
If it was really about "training" you wouldn't be able to stick a Pokemon in a storage box and take it out later with the exact same abilities it had before. People need to keep training to maintain themselves, there is actually merit to the training being put in compared to Pokemon where that's not needed once you hit a certain point (unless you decide to switch spreads/movesets around).
"People are lazy and just want to get into pvp so they just don't do it" - No, they want to spend their time practicing, which is much more meaningful. You're never going to get better at battling if you spend all your time catching and breeding. People want to reallocate their time to battling so that they can actually get better at playing the game, not doing unnecessary grinding.
As things stand right now, any player has the ability to gen Pokemon for free, without any technical knowledge, and no risk of getting caught (unless they're trying to). This makes the game way more accessible to anyone wants to play at a high level, while also allowing us to increase the overall skill level of the game, leading to a more entertaining competition for spectators.
Its a video game the pokemon aren't real stop caring about how they are obtained people just have lives and don't want to spend all their free time on bike simulator and just want to get some battles in. And pokemon doesn't allow hacked pokemon in tournaments but the official hack checks are worse then the ones built into the genning programs so you can easily have hacked pokemon that appear legit.
@cosmicsvids it's literally considered a competitive sport and a real job for people lol. You at home you can do what you want but at your job you can't cheat the system. That's why multiple champions have been caught and disqualified before
@@PrettyboyPa Yeah but its just being petie imo its not like cheating in cod with aim bot since only legal pokemon work.