why YOU should buy a TOOL LENGTH SENSOR !

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
  • Is it just a fancy gimmick or actually useful? In this video, we will find out the accuracy, and the time savings we can accomplish with a tool length sensor.
    i bought this Tool Length Sensor:
    s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFY...
    00:00 - intro
    00:14 - what is a tool length sensor?
    00:38 - accuracy test semi automatic
    01:49 - accuracy test manual
    03:20 - time saving test preliminary
    04:46 - IO-Sender setup for TLO
    06:25 - Time comparison
    07:36 - conclusion
    Wiki Entry about Probing and the tool length sensor:
    wiki.printnc.info/en/grbl/pro...
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  • @crabsshed
    @crabsshed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I got to revisit mine and finally set it up properly and mainly get used to using it. Got one installed and it has been sitting on the machine for over two months. Just tried it once or twice. This proves I could have saved a lot of time already...

  • @InheritanceMachining
    @InheritanceMachining ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And here I am taking 7:45 to change and indicate a single tool on the manual mill 😂 Nice vid as always, man

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, you have that satisfying sound from the impact wrench 😂

  • @fierceflyer5
    @fierceflyer5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks for testing this.

  • @CunningLinguist01
    @CunningLinguist01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another awesome video! More print NC videos!

  • @StemmProductions
    @StemmProductions ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man you are on a roll of uploads! Love that :D nice video as always, I will get one aswell but firstly I need to build the cnc. Wish me luck guys ^^

    • @MrDe0
      @MrDe0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good Luck😁

    • @StemmProductions
      @StemmProductions ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDe0 thanks man :D

  • @sailthehighseas
    @sailthehighseas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! I have the same one, now I'm motivated to wire it up and start using it. Unfortunately I'm running Mach4, too bad their forum isn't as helpful. Also two great tips on Fusion that I didn't know yet, thanks!

  • @miniwinisbastelbude
    @miniwinisbastelbude หลายเดือนก่อน

    you´re welcome... nice that it´s working... :)

  • @josephjones4293
    @josephjones4293 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tips… i would love an indepth video on actually setting it all up. I just finished dialing in my servos… tonight im going to mount the spindle and setup the vfd.

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've added a section about probing/tool length sensor to the printNC wiki, the link is in the description

  • @BryanHoward
    @BryanHoward ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haven’t even watched the video yet, but if you’ve got this thing figured out you are my hero! Mine in LinuxCNC has been giving me nothing but problems.
    Whatever they use for the top disk material is hard. I've smashed an 8mm endmill into it (because I programmed it going the wrong way in a G0 move :D) and it didn't even make much of a dent

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It took me.2 weeks fiddeling to get this thing working 😅
      The topcover must be made out of carbide, mine came loose so i had to glue it back in, and this disk is really heavy
      Yeah wiring the overtravel switch should be mandatory, i also broke mine, doing a g0 x0 y0 z0...

    • @BryanHoward
      @BryanHoward ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChristophLehner Same. Every single person that has used this very style of tool height setting has said that the puck has come out during shipping.
      I smashed mine even when testing out the over-travel switch because they don’t give you any extra travel for your machine to come to a stop.
      The Z-max G28 thing is likely why I couldn’t get it working reliably in LinuxCNC so I’ll have to visit that again.

  • @xyzspec82
    @xyzspec82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want one! 🤓

  • @christianmontagx8461
    @christianmontagx8461 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They call him "Shove-the-toolhead-into-something" 😂

  • @GeorgeZaharia
    @GeorgeZaharia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    u can calculate the tool length if u have good software, u give it a probing of the bottom part where the toll enters... and then u just probe the tool ... and the difference should be ur tool lenght... is not so much different than probing with clamps on a metal for Z positioning...

  • @oppugnator
    @oppugnator ปีที่แล้ว

    wondering how many start ups are saving the money for a CTO because of your videos 🤷‍♂️

  • @mastermoarman
    @mastermoarman ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe mount the tls in a hole so it's top is more even with the table top? That way you have less to worry about running into the side with longer bits?

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's quite a neat idea 👌

    • @mastermoarman
      @mastermoarman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristophLehner and if your rally fancy you could have it retractable beneath a trap door lol

    • @catexis
      @catexis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mastermoarman I know you’re kidding but man a retractable tool would be a repeatability nightmare!

    • @mastermoarman
      @mastermoarman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@catexis being serious. Have a kinematic coupler mounted to the bottom of the table that has a mating coupler on the tool height sensor. That way it stops and orientation each time

  • @gold-junge91
    @gold-junge91 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you try with wet paper and rotating spindle you get pretty good accuracy.

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With wet paper?

    • @gold-junge91
      @gold-junge91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChristophLehner yes trust me I learn this from cnc teacher in my training as Industrial mechanican, paper have round 0,1mm thickness but wet you get like 0.05mm and If you put the wet paper on a surface from your part that you want to cnc then travel to the paper and get as close as possible and a little bit more u see the paper fly away and u can press zero 😁 try it :-) if not talk back to me I try to find a video from my Trainee time. (Of course I have to turn on your spindle but only 100-500rpm)

    • @gold-junge91
      @gold-junge91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristophLehner i have a machine a my cnc parts in my training like this 🤣😅and get normal trainee time in Germany 3 1/2 years but i get in 28 month’s done 😅

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gold-junge91 thanks! Sounds like a great tip👌

    • @gold-junge91
      @gold-junge91 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ChristophLehner try it and tell me how your expierence are :-D

  • @esotericbear9829
    @esotericbear9829 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I add this function to an Ender with Klipper, using an unused Z endstop?

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว

      this is for a cnc :D

    • @esotericbear9829
      @esotericbear9829 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristophLehner No, I get that but I also want this for Klipper. I have modified my gantry endstop to extend past my bed & want to move/modify the normal z endstop for auto z offset when I change nozzles.

  • @Kosh42EFG
    @Kosh42EFG ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn it. You're going to cost me money.
    Got an Ali affiliate link for the one you use?

    • @Kosh42EFG
      @Kosh42EFG ปีที่แล้ว

      Ignore me. It's in the description.

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbf, they are not that expensive 😅

  • @andreashabijan2514
    @andreashabijan2514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moin, es gibt bei Ebay gebrauchte Lasergabeln mit 80mm Schenkelabstand für um die 20 Euro. Die sind extrem genau. Industriestandard mit IP67, meist laufen die zwischen 18 bis 32V. Ich wollte mir auch erst was mechanisches kaufen, dann bin ich über die Lasergabelmethode gestolpert.

    • @ChristophLehner
      @ChristophLehner  ปีที่แล้ว

      Was ist eine lasergabel? Hör ich zum ersten mal 😅

    • @cncrouterinfo
      @cncrouterinfo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristophLehner u shaped thing with laser sender and receiver. You would use this to measure the tool length. Due to using the laser it is very repeatable. Although I doubt it will change much for your application as steppers with microstepping themselves are not very accurate. In other words this is probably good enough.

    • @cncrouterinfo
      @cncrouterinfo ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a link to these in ebay?

    • @jtcmlt1
      @jtcmlt1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristophLehner those are optoelectronic sensors. They are widely used for packaging and other applications where accurate count is needed... I think 🤔

  • @rusticagenerica
    @rusticagenerica 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thou thou