This run is a pleasant surprise, at first glance I thought it'd basically end up like Grants no production run but since this challenge could be ran on Brutal this run got such a different feel with the different challenges you face on a higher difficulty, this run became a complete city planner and I am all for it.
"Because the more [Reapers] kill, the less they have to kill. Which makes killing much easier, which in turn, means there's less to kill." That sounds like the kind of rumination that would deeply trouble Reapers.
I'm surprised to see a 1 hour starcraft video before the portal osha violations come out. I'm not complaining though, I'm just here for your voice and script. Thank you for uploading king
The Portal OSHA Workplace Violations script has been immense, I'm on the final scripting process like 93% sure that there was a dedicated "OSHA Guy" who made sure every single violation possible, was violated. It's insane.
OSHA is the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, very vast in scale but TL;DR, usually they regulate jobs to make sure that safety conditions are met and that workers don't kill themselves. Usually the laws are standard and routine with pretty simple reasons as to why they exist. The problem is with analyzing Portal they miraculously fuck up everything. Like of course you can't gun down your employees I don't gotta bring up HR for that one but even the tiniest elements like stairs, ventilation, rails, stairs, warning signs, training, and stairs are all awful. It'll be like the War Crime videos except actually canonically really accurate since Cave Johnson literally just had plans to subvert and possibly kill any OSHA employee that tried to come in anyway.
Ya know, for a second I didn't even read who the uploader was and assumed Grant has decided to squeeze another Challenge Run out. Great video though, nice to see you back Davey.
Should be possible due to GGG's no production runs, but it will be interesting doing all on brutal and seeing what concessions need made (Zerg first mission)
32:45 Truer words have never been spoken, sir. Something about that clip (and siege tanks in general) just scratches my brain to a primal degree and i very much appreciate that you are a man of such culture as well xD
56:59 Thank you! The moment you got last of the zerg research i was thinking 'oh god, it's gonna be cheese again, fuuuuck' but! It wasn't. Which is worth saying 'thank you'!
5:00 In regard's to double the supply actually feeling more like triple, that's a consequence of a phenomenon known as Lanchester's Square Law. Spirit of the Law has a great short video on the topic.
29:00 The whole 1 damage = 1 damage thing from the missile turrets. Fun fact: That attack (I'm pretty sure) ignores armor. When attack opponents with more armor than you deal damage, it's possible to deal fractional amounts of damage. This is something I abused in an arcade map called Roundabout War, spamming a bunch of Zerglings and then upgrading them to have 10+ Armor. They literally wouldn't take damage half the time from smaller units like marines or sentries.
Yeah, the Maurader Kill Teams on brutal are pretty rough. In my most recent playthrough I did manage to thread the needle and get the last train without aggroing them or killing them as they were walking with it, but that requires a very careful distancing from them and an opportune moment.
Having had Issues™ with Cutthroat myself just due to I HATE MINERAL MISSIONS, I'm gonna remember that ghost nuke strategy, even though I'm using Spectres and not Ghosts.
Goonmask Dave has once more graced us with a monotone voice speaking nonsense from the image box. Thank you for bringing your presence upon us Goonmask Dave.
"Out of his gay baby jail" When i heard that i was like "WAIT I HEARD THIS BEFORE!" And went on a hunt to find the person who made that term.. Soon after i fell into an abyss of sm64 speedruns by Daddy Simpleflips
"Just like our bunker micro but uuh.. surprisingly way worse and more tedious" Would being more tedious not, by itself, make it worse and therefore leave this statement redundant?
Very cool video! Just had to add that regarding damage being reduced by armor, the minimum damage is actually 0.5, not 1. At least this is how it works in pvp :)
Why oh why is trapping Tychus in baby jail not the first thing you find when you google how to beat engine of destruction??? It is SO EASY!! Step 1: Clear the no build segment with at least 3 Marines surviving, then stuff them into your starting bunker. Step 2: Get a tech lab on your factory and saturate your minerals with ~10 Scvs Step 3: Get out 2-3 siege tanks ASAP and send them and any spare Marines to the spot where the Odin starts when you get control of your base. Step 4: Once the first reinforcement wave from base 2 trying to stop the Odin from destroying base 1 is killed by the Odin, send your tanks, starting banshees, and any spare Marines in front of the exit to base 1 with enough room to land your starting barracks and starport on the outside of the building base 1 is in, which you should do now, thereby blocking the exit, and siege up your tanks while building a horizontal line of bunkers a bit further up the path to base 2. (You can add a reactor to your starting barracks that is now blocking the exit to base 1 to fill the bunkers with Marines faster) Step 5: Max out and clear the map without the Odin. While this strat doesn't make the mission entirely free, it does make it very easy, even on brutal.
Now we know that losing a few colonists on the first wave can make subsequent waves easier and enemy aggression is based on amount of colonists evacuated.
Supply Depots? SLEEP ON THE GROUND! Hungry? We have enough bread and water, if you want meat, eat the enemy! We're on a Budget here! If I see even one of you slacking, IM TAKING AWAY THE BREAD!
I would allow the resquable supply and such, some people may not consider it "purist" but to me "loopholes" like that make the difference between a challenge feeling fun and like self-influcted punishment.
FWIW, Evacuation can actually be done much more easily than you thought thanks to some silly cheese that's possible in the map. The convoy will try to path around buildings if possible, phasing through them only if absolutely necessary. This means you can wall the first one in with Supply Depots and raise/lower them to make the convoy drive back and forth for as long as you want. If you feel like it, you can set up all your defense along the path before the first convoy leaves. Similarly, you say the infested terran in the next mission get strong with time and that the more buildings you destroy, the less there will be to kill. That’s somewhat untrue. Time doesn’t affect enemy strength at all, what controls that is how many buildings/bases you destroy. You can turtle in your base building up for as long as you want and the enemies won’t get stronger. Those cheeses make the missions a lot easier when doing challenge runs like this.
In "the devils playground" I would just grab my reapers, NOT BUILD ANYTHING and rescue most of the other reapers while collecting resources from the hives. I just don't get why nobody has done this in a challenge, if I can do it, you and every other star craft 2 youtuber can do it too.
Well a lot of the speedrun strat revolves around immediately getting and utilizing the CC to the north east of your base, which means we can't do it. Plus the speedrun doesn't account for you killing the Brutalisk and instead just purely bumrushing the map. With those two combined, the timing works out to where we have to deal with attack waves anyways, so I may as well do it the boring slow-and-steady way. Not like you're watching it in real time.
@@DaveyGunface First of all, I made a comment like this on almost every TH-camr's video that has this mission in it so I am very surprised that someone actually responded. Second of all, I get the command center as I get the other reapers which are on the right of it. Thirdly, have you considered Red Lobster? And finally, the plan wasn't speedrunning, you can still take your time.
Wow I never knew reapers melted buildings like that... my stubborn ass just basically used marine marauder medivac for the entire WoL brutal campaign xD
On Evacuation, you can do a cheese to stop the APCs from evacuating by killing all the civilians and the APCs before the civilians load into the APCs. All of this has to happen before the voiceline of Ariel saying the first vehicle will move out. If you do it, you can kill the civilians and the APcs without adding to the counter{though the doctor allways shouts at you}, ergo you can postpone the whole mission ad infinitum. All your troubles with resources can be dealt with in this way. Disclaimer: I did this once in my life as an experiment after the anniversary achievements came out, not quite sure it still works
well id love to watch the video but after realized exactly what was the plan it wasnt interresting for me anymore becouse i have seen someone beat the campaigns without building ANY unit... soo great video idea and i hope you get lots of fews
28:55 i dont think what you say his is true, im pretty sure the way armor works when the armor is more than the incoming damage, is that the damage taken is a actually a fraction with some formula behind it.
On Media Blitz (say at 52:30), you start out with 35 max supply, and later on you have 37/43 supply, and your base is visible at 52:53, and there seems to be a Supply Depot that wasn't present when we had vision of your base previously. Am I missing something? (Even if this is just a mistake, there is no doubt that dropping two SCVs is easily feasible with how much money you're floating, especially when utilizing the sneak attack route that Grant showed off that disables both the Factory and the Starport bases.)
Frick, yeah I think that was an autopilot mistake. I'm kind of surprised it took ~well over a year and a half to find it and honestly it's even better that it was on a mission where the extra supply wasn't at all necessary (or USED for that matter), but yeah you're totally right. Time to redo the whole challenge shaking my head my head. But in all seriousness though, you're correct that the mission is hilariously easy with good routing, and even with my suboptimal route it was hardly a death march. The Odin is just a one-man army and the waves sent to defeat it can be fended off with minimal support
Hm. For mission 2, wouldn't it be possible to run some marines into the rebel base (past the rescue trigger) to destroy the depots before officially 'rescuing' them? That way can still do the rescue without getting the supply. Alternatively if you can't get past the trigger, fly in a barracks and build a marine from there to do it
For the things that give you supply, without building them, like the one from the second mission in Wings of Liberty. The challenge is: Not building Supply. So if the game gives you supply then that doesn't count. Since you specifically didn't build them. But if you want that restriction then go with it.
Well. The natural extension to this would be if you can beat the brutal campaigns without constructing any structures at all. Overlords and deploy-pylon would be bypasses there for supply, but that'd partly equal out with the terrans being the only ones able to migrate to a new base after money runs out... Rome wasn't built in a day. Just gotta live with what structures you get.
Honestly I feel like it'd be doable? Especially when most missions give you the structure required to build the unit you just unlocked, and/or you have a bunch of other basic structures for production. That being said if tech labs / reactors weren't allowed WoL would definitely be really annoying
As always it deserves to be mentioned that the difference between Casual / Normal and Brutal is so astronomical that they're borderline completely different games
@@DaveyGunface Oh for sure! Its kinda funny how just like...a single added seige tank to a base in Brutal can TOTALLY change how you need to do a mission. Just...one tank...can end a run.
@@kaliek5281 The Outlaws is actually such a bizarre difficulty spike for challenge runs, the now infamous "bunker of death" and that one siege tank that people traditionally steamroll past have caused so many problems for me and Grant across so many different runs it's insane
"Without increasing your supply cap" would have been a more clear title. The current one makes you think you are not going to be building a single unit. Either way, good video.
Thank god i stopped playing this game, im still normal-brained. I kinda understand tournaments etc, but it's insane how much Davey has to prove he did shit legit instead of having fun. :D
Wait is the depot SCV in the outlaws invincible, or did you do that using hacks? That could be a hilarious way to cheese this mission for something like deathless or pacifist
Both missions afterwards are extremely easy, it's just the fact that you HAVE to do that second mission in order to get to the third and fourth, meaning the chain is broken.
Not intentional, we just both fell into the "Terminally online midwestern high schooler who got bullied a lot so we decided to see if we could make TH-cam videos on the games we spent way too much time on and it somehow kinda worked out" camp
They should change the Regen metal upgrade, instead of a miniscule HP Regen always, After about 30 seconds of not in combat, 0.5 SCV Repair, After 1 min, 1 SCV Repair speed,
The dude in your one ranked game telling you to commit sewer slide sums up my experience with basically anything with a ranked ladder. SC2, League of Legends, Overwatch (1, not 2, god no) etc. Wish I knew what point in time sportsmanship got taken out back and everything just became 'haha you suck noob ggez' if you win and 'ffs team is shit kys' if you lose. :T
SCV: "Here, i've collected a lot of minerals... why are you loading your rifle?"
This run is a pleasant surprise, at first glance I thought it'd basically end up like Grants no production run but since this challenge could be ran on Brutal this run got such a different feel with the different challenges you face on a higher difficulty, this run became a complete city planner and I am all for it.
The difference is Grants videos are more pleasant to watch. This guy just loves his voice so much
"Because the more [Reapers] kill, the less they have to kill. Which makes killing much easier, which in turn, means there's less to kill."
That sounds like the kind of rumination that would deeply trouble Reapers.
The life of the Reaper Man is uh, complicated… I think.
I'm surprised to see a 1 hour starcraft video before the portal osha violations come out. I'm not complaining though, I'm just here for your voice and script. Thank you for uploading king
The Portal OSHA Workplace Violations script has been immense, I'm on the final scripting process like 93% sure that there was a dedicated "OSHA Guy" who made sure every single violation possible, was violated. It's insane.
@@DaveyGunface Ex OSHA inspector working at Valve that decided to break every single regulation out of spite
What is OSHA violations and why do I want to watch your video about it
OSHA is the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, very vast in scale but TL;DR, usually they regulate jobs to make sure that safety conditions are met and that workers don't kill themselves. Usually the laws are standard and routine with pretty simple reasons as to why they exist.
The problem is with analyzing Portal they miraculously fuck up everything. Like of course you can't gun down your employees I don't gotta bring up HR for that one but even the tiniest elements like stairs, ventilation, rails, stairs, warning signs, training, and stairs are all awful.
It'll be like the War Crime videos except actually canonically really accurate since Cave Johnson literally just had plans to subvert and possibly kill any OSHA employee that tried to come in anyway.
@@DaveyGunface This comment is what earnt my sub I NEED that video.
I could watch these silly challenge runs forever. Your content is so consistently good Davey!
Glad you like them boss, hope you're having a good day!
So if War Pigs are veteran Mercenaries. Would a new recruit be called a War Pigglet?
Ya know, for a second I didn't even read who the uploader was and assumed Grant has decided to squeeze another Challenge Run out.
Great video though, nice to see you back Davey.
Me too lmao, glad to see other people are taking some pieces out of the SC2 pie tho.
39:21
If i learned anything over the years, it's that all you need when playing Terran is a mule and a chair.
Huh, didn't expect you to come back to SC2, well a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
to quote one of the greats:
"I'M GONNA LOSE
I SHOULD HAVE LIKE EIGHT MORE MARINES BY NOW"
Davey, you are a hero for putting yourself through these random incredibly tedious challenges
Should be possible due to GGG's no production runs, but it will be interesting doing all on brutal and seeing what concessions need made (Zerg first mission)
Grants series was on normal. This is on brutal, which is very different in enemies
But also very different challanges. he can stil produce more units. he just cant increase his total supplys.
SC2 but raynor keeps forgetting to bring snacks
i will never forget that time u put a skuntank in the corner of one of ur sc2 videos for a single frame. sc2 davey my hero
32:45 Truer words have never been spoken, sir. Something about that clip (and siege tanks in general) just scratches my brain to a primal degree and i very much appreciate that you are a man of such culture as well xD
56:59
Thank you! The moment you got last of the zerg research i was thinking 'oh god, it's gonna be cheese again, fuuuuck' but! It wasn't.
Which is worth saying 'thank you'!
5:00 In regard's to double the supply actually feeling more like triple, that's a consequence of a phenomenon known as Lanchester's Square Law. Spirit of the Law has a great short video on the topic.
Thank you for providing me with all of the loopholes that I need to make my fragile ego feel better. That meant a lot. ♥
Bold of you to assume that ANY decision ever made on TH-cam won't make at least a few people really upset. They just want attention, ignore them.
Hell yes, its nice to see another of your StarCraft videos :)
I thought it was weird that GiantGrantGames mentioned you in one of his latest videos... but now it makes complete sense :D
GGG and Davey have been friends for ages now
So stoked for another Starcraft challenge! This is just what I needed when I opened TH-cam today.
Ah, I see you use the fabled “full auto snipe” against Kerrigan
always love your runs davey great to see you back can't wait to see how you approach this run
oh my god a davey gunface video im literally morbing right now
29:00 The whole 1 damage = 1 damage thing from the missile turrets. Fun fact: That attack (I'm pretty sure) ignores armor. When attack opponents with more armor than you deal damage, it's possible to deal fractional amounts of damage. This is something I abused in an arcade map called Roundabout War, spamming a bunch of Zerglings and then upgrading them to have 10+ Armor. They literally wouldn't take damage half the time from smaller units like marines or sentries.
Yeah, armor actually reduces damage down to 0.5, not 1.
Yeah, the Maurader Kill Teams on brutal are pretty rough. In my most recent playthrough I did manage to thread the needle and get the last train without aggroing them or killing them as they were walking with it, but that requires a very careful distancing from them and an opportune moment.
Great challenge run, editing and commentary :D
Great job, my guy! It was really interesting to watch!
Thanks for the video!
no forward planetary??? 😢
wtf kade is a davey fan too??? hello sir
It is a sad day for the Forward Planetary Fan Club
I missed your SC2 content. I'm excited for the next expansions!
Always love to see new videos from you!
Thanks for the raw, unedited siege tank vs zerg footage
Having had Issues™ with Cutthroat myself just due to I HATE MINERAL MISSIONS, I'm gonna remember that ghost nuke strategy, even though I'm using Spectres and not Ghosts.
I like the auto-build supply depot reflex leading to a "Look I didn't technically cheat BUT I'mma go do it right anyway"
25:31 didn't expect a Frostpunk reference xD
The youtube algorithm has actually found something I'm interested in. Rejoice! (Nice video)
Nice! you got to verse lowko in the intro! I can tell by the hydra/corruptor.
Goonmask Dave has once more graced us with a monotone voice speaking nonsense from the image box. Thank you for bringing your presence upon us Goonmask Dave.
Been binging some of your videos, good stuff
"Out of his gay baby jail" When i heard that i was like "WAIT I HEARD THIS BEFORE!" And went on a hunt to find the person who made that term.. Soon after i fell into an abyss of sm64 speedruns by Daddy Simpleflips
The explanation at 13:50 had me in tears
It's been a minute since youtube recommended me one of your videos, despite me really liking them.
Voice sounds way deeper than I remembered
Leaving a comment for the algorithm. great video as always 😩
"Just like our bunker micro but uuh.. surprisingly way worse and more tedious"
Would being more tedious not, by itself, make it worse and therefore leave this statement redundant?
Very cool video! Just had to add that regarding damage being reduced by armor, the minimum damage is actually 0.5, not 1. At least this is how it works in pvp :)
I love theese kinds of runs
Why oh why is trapping Tychus in baby jail not the first thing you find when you google how to beat engine of destruction??? It is SO EASY!!
Step 1: Clear the no build segment with at least 3 Marines surviving, then stuff them into your starting bunker.
Step 2: Get a tech lab on your factory and saturate your minerals with ~10 Scvs
Step 3: Get out 2-3 siege tanks ASAP and send them and any spare Marines to the spot where the Odin starts when you get control of your base.
Step 4: Once the first reinforcement wave from base 2 trying to stop the Odin from destroying base 1 is killed by the Odin, send your tanks, starting banshees, and any spare Marines in front of the exit to base 1 with enough room to land your starting barracks and starport on the outside of the building base 1 is in, which you should do now, thereby blocking the exit, and siege up your tanks while building a horizontal line of bunkers a bit further up the path to base 2. (You can add a reactor to your starting barracks that is now blocking the exit to base 1 to fill the bunkers with Marines faster)
Step 5: Max out and clear the map without the Odin.
While this strat doesn't make the mission entirely free, it does make it very easy, even on brutal.
Oh look, drunk GGG is back on SC2!
Thanks for the good time
I haven't finished the video, but I wanna say: I am very sorry for your suffering, Davey.
1:56 Why am I not surprised it's also on Brutal?
great work as always!
well thanks. I can finally stop my depression and trying to track down your upload schedule
1:19 You made a whole dog? By yourself?
Impressive.
Omg, SC2 back! I waited
Now we know that losing a few colonists on the first wave can make subsequent waves easier and enemy aggression is based on amount of colonists evacuated.
hate to admit, that the dry humor made me laugh so damn hard throughout the video
Nice run, love your sarcastic comments
Supply Depots? SLEEP ON THE GROUND!
Hungry? We have enough bread and water, if you want meat, eat the enemy!
We're on a Budget here! If I see even one of you slacking, IM TAKING AWAY THE BREAD!
Davey, Grant, Jayborino WOL nightmare 3 player co op deathless, productionless, extermination edition when?
I would allow the resquable supply and such, some people may not consider it "purist" but to me "loopholes" like that make the difference between a challenge feeling fun and like self-influcted punishment.
FWIW, Evacuation can actually be done much more easily than you thought thanks to some silly cheese that's possible in the map. The convoy will try to path around buildings if possible, phasing through them only if absolutely necessary. This means you can wall the first one in with Supply Depots and raise/lower them to make the convoy drive back and forth for as long as you want. If you feel like it, you can set up all your defense along the path before the first convoy leaves.
Similarly, you say the infested terran in the next mission get strong with time and that the more buildings you destroy, the less there will be to kill. That’s somewhat untrue. Time doesn’t affect enemy strength at all, what controls that is how many buildings/bases you destroy. You can turtle in your base building up for as long as you want and the enemies won’t get stronger.
Those cheeses make the missions a lot easier when doing challenge runs like this.
In "the devils playground" I would just grab my reapers, NOT BUILD ANYTHING and rescue most of the other reapers while collecting resources from the hives. I just don't get why nobody has done this in a challenge, if I can do it, you and every other star craft 2 youtuber can do it too.
Well a lot of the speedrun strat revolves around immediately getting and utilizing the CC to the north east of your base, which means we can't do it. Plus the speedrun doesn't account for you killing the Brutalisk and instead just purely bumrushing the map.
With those two combined, the timing works out to where we have to deal with attack waves anyways, so I may as well do it the boring slow-and-steady way. Not like you're watching it in real time.
@@DaveyGunface First of all, I made a comment like this on almost every TH-camr's video that has this mission in it so I am very surprised that someone actually responded. Second of all, I get the command center as I get the other reapers which are on the right of it. Thirdly, have you considered Red Lobster? And finally, the plan wasn't speedrunning, you can still take your time.
I love shrike turrets.
Wow I never knew reapers melted buildings like that... my stubborn ass just basically used marine marauder medivac for the entire WoL brutal campaign xD
Alternative Title:
Can you beat SC2 WOL without spending minerals or energy to boost your supplies?
Sweet thumbnail
All on brutal is the reason i am watching (;
On Evacuation, you can do a cheese to stop the APCs from evacuating by killing all the civilians and the APCs before the civilians load into the APCs. All of this has to happen before the voiceline of Ariel saying the first vehicle will move out. If you do it, you can kill the civilians and the APcs without adding to the counter{though the doctor allways shouts at you}, ergo you can postpone the whole mission ad infinitum. All your troubles with resources can be dealt with in this way.
Disclaimer: I did this once in my life as an experiment after the anniversary achievements came out, not quite sure it still works
these kind of challenges sound as hard as Grant's challenges.
Ngl I was scrolling past this on my recommendeds and I thought Swann was doing the Jeb Bush pose
I never knew i subscribed to you, but StarCraft content is StarCraft content.
Nice video daveyman
well id love to watch the video but after realized exactly what was the plan it wasnt interresting for me anymore becouse i have seen someone beat the campaigns without building ANY unit... soo great video idea and i hope you get lots of fews
2:34 me being lonly has nothing to do with me being pedantic. 2 completely separate problems
28:55 i dont think what you say his is true, im pretty sure the way armor works when the armor is more than the incoming damage, is that the damage taken is a actually a fraction with some formula behind it.
giantgrantgames would be proud of you man
Im waiting for the day when someone does a SCV only run.
Can you do a run on the nightmare difficulty made by giantgrantgames? Would love to see a playthrough
On Media Blitz (say at 52:30), you start out with 35 max supply, and later on you have 37/43 supply, and your base is visible at 52:53, and there seems to be a Supply Depot that wasn't present when we had vision of your base previously. Am I missing something? (Even if this is just a mistake, there is no doubt that dropping two SCVs is easily feasible with how much money you're floating, especially when utilizing the sneak attack route that Grant showed off that disables both the Factory and the Starport bases.)
Frick, yeah I think that was an autopilot mistake. I'm kind of surprised it took ~well over a year and a half to find it and honestly it's even better that it was on a mission where the extra supply wasn't at all necessary (or USED for that matter), but yeah you're totally right. Time to redo the whole challenge shaking my head my head.
But in all seriousness though, you're correct that the mission is hilariously easy with good routing, and even with my suboptimal route it was hardly a death march. The Odin is just a one-man army and the waves sent to defeat it can be fended off with minimal support
Hm. For mission 2, wouldn't it be possible to run some marines into the rebel base (past the rescue trigger) to destroy the depots before officially 'rescuing' them?
That way can still do the rescue without getting the supply.
Alternatively if you can't get past the trigger, fly in a barracks and build a marine from there to do it
For the things that give you supply, without building them, like the one from the second mission in Wings of Liberty. The challenge is: Not building Supply. So if the game gives you supply then that doesn't count. Since you specifically didn't build them.
But if you want that restriction then go with it.
Spooder Davey back :D
Well. The natural extension to this would be if you can beat the brutal campaigns without constructing any structures at all. Overlords and deploy-pylon would be bypasses there for supply, but that'd partly equal out with the terrans being the only ones able to migrate to a new base after money runs out...
Rome wasn't built in a day. Just gotta live with what structures you get.
Honestly I feel like it'd be doable? Especially when most missions give you the structure required to build the unit you just unlocked, and/or you have a bunch of other basic structures for production. That being said if tech labs / reactors weren't allowed WoL would definitely be really annoying
1:40 technically you had a hole, because actually you can summon Supply Depot)
A supply-starved run of the campaign in Brutal difficulty?
Having seen no-production runs of WOL/HotS/LotV....being able to produce SOME is definitely possible X3
As always it deserves to be mentioned that the difference between Casual / Normal and Brutal is so astronomical that they're borderline completely different games
@@DaveyGunface Oh for sure! Its kinda funny how just like...a single added seige tank to a base in Brutal can TOTALLY change how you need to do a mission. Just...one tank...can end a run.
@@kaliek5281 The Outlaws is actually such a bizarre difficulty spike for challenge runs, the now infamous "bunker of death" and that one siege tank that people traditionally steamroll past have caused so many problems for me and Grant across so many different runs it's insane
"Without increasing your supply cap" would have been a more clear title. The current one makes you think you are not going to be building a single unit.
Either way, good video.
Thank god i stopped playing this game, im still normal-brained.
I kinda understand tournaments etc, but it's insane how much Davey has to prove he did shit legit instead of having fun. :D
39:38 haha, vicro :)
Wait is the depot SCV in the outlaws invincible, or did you do that using hacks? That could be a hilarious way to cheese this mission for something like deathless or pacifist
It was using a cheat for jokes, I sadly don't think there's any glitch to make a unit invincible :/
The plural of Protoss is Protoss
yeah so grant came with a cheese run for liberty and apparantly its possible to delay the first convoy in evacuation
Unfortunately the strategy is contingent on supply depots so it isn't really a viable solution here, but otherwise it is a very fun cheese
@@DaveyGunface oh right forgot that
This channel is obviously Grant's alt with a voice deepener and no portrait lmao
can't you do the protoss missions without increasing your supply?
No you need to place pylons 2 of them, not sure why In Utter Darkness is bad though, all your stuff has pylons already built
Both missions afterwards are extremely easy, it's just the fact that you HAVE to do that second mission in order to get to the third and fourth, meaning the chain is broken.
You mustn't construct additional pylons
is intentional you sound like mitten squad? or
not that thats a bad thing, but thats what im picking up
Not intentional, we just both fell into the "Terminally online midwestern high schooler who got bullied a lot so we decided to see if we could make TH-cam videos on the games we spent way too much time on and it somehow kinda worked out" camp
@DaveyGunface fair enough. You have similar manners or speech and writing. I appreciate it you've earned a sub
They should change the Regen metal upgrade,
instead of a miniscule HP Regen always,
After about 30 seconds of not in combat, 0.5 SCV Repair, After 1 min, 1 SCV Repair speed,
The dude in your one ranked game telling you to commit sewer slide sums up my experience with basically anything with a ranked ladder. SC2, League of Legends, Overwatch (1, not 2, god no) etc. Wish I knew what point in time sportsmanship got taken out back and everything just became 'haha you suck noob ggez' if you win and 'ffs team is shit kys' if you lose. :T