My Horrific Experience Teaching English in Vietnam
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello, my name is Teacher Andrew and I am here to share my experience of teaching English in Vietnam. In this video, I will warn viewers about an agent named Jenny who deceives foreign teachers and forces them to live in substandard apartments. It's a terrible experience that I went through, and I want to advise others on what to watch out for if they decide to teach English in Vietnam.
Jenny's scams and her actions are tarnishing the reputation of the teaching industry in Vietnam, and I feel it's important to raise awareness about the dishonest practices by people like her. Therefore, I urge viewers to be cautious and avoid any dealings with such dishonest agents.
Moreover, teaching English in Vietnam may seem rewarding, but there are many challenges that come with it, including low salaries, language barriers, and cultural differences. So, it's crucial for anyone considering teaching English in Vietnam to do thorough research and evaluate whether or not it's the right fit for them.
In conclusion, I hope that by sharing my story, I can help potential teachers make informed decisions about teaching English in Vietnam. Remember to always be cautious and do your research before making any commitments.
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Omg I was in contact with her!! Thanks for the warning
There are many fb groups where you can seek advice
unfortunately these deceptive practices are also found in fb. thats why I stay away from fb. take my advice after living in vietnam for 3 years....trust no one!
He lies 😂😂
@@hassanmoustafa3540 🤣😂🤣😂
@@hassanmoustafa3540 Muslims and Africans are a threat for vietnamese culture.
These people are great actors and are far more deceptive than you could imagine. The pretence can carry on for months.
Thank you for sharing this I just blocked her on my fb...she is a hard scammer and her bf is North African. He is desperate to be here so he is doing everything he can to support his gf Jenny! Avoid Jenny at all costs!
I'm glad I could help you avoid collaborating with such dishonest people. Thank you for your feedback; unfortunately, I have spent a lot of money and time due to their deception. I hope more people will watch my video about such a terrible experience in Vietnam, and Jenny and her boyfriend will ultimately face punishment, as they disgrace their countries and the entire business community in Vietnam.
Id love to connect with you. I just experienced the exact same thing you went through as an experienced and licensed Native teacher. What these guys don't realize is that they give us a disgusting bite that we end up never coming back. In Canada, we respect everyone and it's just part of the business world to be straight-forward.
@@TopESLGames
But it is the total opposite in this country. I am officially done with teaching and all forms of teaching because of all of my experiences both in Canada, China...and here in Viet Nam was the icing on the cake for me. @@TopESLGames
He looks like a Muslim. The good thing about Vietnam is there are not so many of them.
what's the name of her boyfriend?
I remember the first time that I had ever heard of teaching English abroad. The woman told me they offered her a teaching job in China, but it was less than the cost of living. She said she would have been paying them to work for them. She told them to kick rocks. 555
I would never look for a job through an agent that you have to pay. I was always told in Thailand and Cambodia to go to each government school and give them my resume, to show that I am serious by showing up. The same is true in the U.S.A. Most employers won't respond to you at job service. The employers always tell me come to our business instead.
Strange, cause all the US employers I've talked to physically said to just go online. This was in Arizona, Utah and Nevada 🤷
As a Vietnamese and used to work there I can sympathize with you, especially when you land in the North. Fraud often occurs. And there are a large number of college graduates who have difficulty finding a job. And about the salary, I surely can't expect it to be good. You had better land in the South first where people at that are more friendly and you should try to hear "special thing" about Vietnam before you jump directly in that chaotic society. I am a Vietnamese person with little life experience and I am also really shocked at some of the bad points of a large number of Vietnamese people.
You are absolutely right. I used to live in the southern part of Vietnam before moving here, and the people there were much better.
How can i reach out to you? Plan to visit there for education collaboration purpose.
Maybe it's a scam, but accusing two people of something without much proof, at least in this video, seems premature. The only apparent issue is that you didn't like the apartment they offered you. If you're going to accuse them of something, you should provide several pictures of the apartment and any correspondence where they specified what was promised. Did they guarantee a five-star apartment before you went there? Do you have emails detailing their commitments? If they simply said they would provide you with an apartment, then they haven't necessarily breached the contract. Perhaps it was a misunderstanding.
Just look at her husband. He looks from the India or a Muslim country. It means scam 100 percent.
The sad thing is that so many people get excited about going to Asia and securing a job before leaving their home country, but the people who've they possibly signed a contract with have little to no business ethics, or really any sense of ethics for that matter. Recruiting agencies are just headhunters who need to fil a position to make a profit, so they just need someone who cuts the mustard and fulfills some very basic requirements. You probably think that you can maybe check to see something like Google reviews and ratings related to some company when actually those are usually faked by many companies if you check and see how the accounts that wrote the review are relatively new and/or there are many reviews within a short period of time, especially from accounts that don't review anything else.
*DO NOT SIGN UP WITH ANY OF THEM!!!!
Something similar happened to me in China at a language school. But, the way I got out of it and turned the tides to my benefit is super crazy and messed up. But, I turned the situation around and made it work out GREAT for me!! How did I get out of it??
Well, the thing is I'm black and many of the parents and students preferred the white teachers. They didn't say it, but when I looked into my white collegues/friends classrooms, their classrooms were full vs. my class which had only a few students. Me and my friends went out to dinner and they told me these things and so did some Chinese friends.
As messed up as it was, I didn't complain. Why? Because, even though I was teaching less classes, the school still paid me a BUNCH of money because it was in the contract LOL 🤣. So, while my white colleagues were being overworked and had to teach 30, 40, or even 50 hours compared to my 20 hours, I was out exploring, having tons of fun, enjoying food and going everywhere EVERYDAY with the MONEY to do it ALL!! I kept going out of town and everything!
So, that's how I got out of my similar situation. Yes, teaching in Asia in general could be messed up for ANYBODY whether black or white if one is at the wrong type of school. As mentioned above, my white friends got screwed but just in a different way from me. We finally ALL left that school around the same time to where they didn't have any foreign teachers for a LONG time! Granted: The rest of China was AWESOME!!! I had a ton of fun in China and met a lot of great people outside of the school. The ONLY negative experiences I had was working at the school. The rest of China was dream-like!
If you've never been scammed in Viet Nam....... then you were never there.
It sounds like you're talking about Istanbul, Turkey 🇹🇷 🤣
How do you protect your Bachelors degree and other important paper documents from being damaged while backpacking around the world teaching English?
Well, I don't go backpacking. I work full time in different countries with all the necessary documents. That's why it's crucial to have a comfortable and secure place where you can feel at home. That's also the reason why I couldn't stay in the horrendous apartment that the agent I mentioned in the video offered me. And remember, never give your personal documents to an employer or agent even if they insist it's necessary.
@@TopESLGames if you don’t give them your personal documents then what do you do?
I think i had the worst teaching experience in Vietnam
Are you native
No im not
@mojo.2112 no, its hard to start in Vietnam a lot of scams
Thiland is the same
I was in Vietnam last year teaching English and had the best experience of my life! I will return soon! But, I am sure there are other difficult situations.
Do you have teaching experience in other countries?
Any reviews on EMG Educationa?
Как попадешь.
Мы с женой работали две недели в провинции, комнату дали так себе, грязную, бутылки под кроватью, потом через две недели выяснилось, что мы не подходим по критериям, типа акцент, бла-бла.
Однако, проживание было бесплатное, уроки оплатили.
В провинции лучше ехать через ханойские агентства.
мне не оплатили вообще ничего, и из предложенных вариантов жилья была лишь вонючая (в прямом смысле) комната, даже не полноценная квартира, в которой не было даже кухни.... как потом оказалось, они оплатили этот угол заранее и ожидали, что я буду там жить... Разумеется, больше вариантов жилья предложено не было, как и оплаты за уроки и отель, в котором вместо оговоренной ночи проживания, я провел пять (!), в ужасном районе, где на улице продают собачатину.
Это была моя вторая работа во Вьетнаме, в первой школе было все относительно ОК, до момента последней зарплаты, из которой вычли расходы на мою визу (должны были они платить) и последний месяц проживания в квартире... Так что на моем опыте - во Вьетнаме с работой и оплатой труда кидают часто.
International schools are a safe bet across Asia. For teaching English, South Korea seems to be the best.
Thank you 💕
Briefly taught in Nanjing, China, did English Camps in the summer in Slovakia. Did about 15 summers but only two weeks for each summer. 😊
*Being Asian from other countries or a non-native speaker, these problems are common in South Asia. Actually, even as a native speaker, I had bad experiences in Thailand.*
I think "Jenny" is an alias to hide her identity.
That's actually the problem here in Vietnam, too many scammers, compared to Thailand. Too bad I am just realizing that now that I am already here in Vietnam with my kids, but really considering going back to Thailand.
I taught English in different countries. Even in poor African or Nepalese schools, employers' behavior was much better than in Vietnam.
Thailand is the same
Salaries are low? Which country has higher salaries? In my experience Vietnam offers some of the highest salaries for ESL "teachers".
Some of us are good teachers
Mainland Chinese schools easily offer double or sometimes even triple of what Vietnamese schools are offering, but these days you actually do need proper teaching qualifications in order to get a work permit there.
I feel you. To cut the long story short, I left Vietnam because of such kind of people.
I'm sorry that you also had to deal with such dishonest people. I lived in Vietnam for a long time and can say that there are indeed many good and caring people in the country. However, there are also agents and even school directors who deceive foreigners and disgrace their country.
*Buyer beware* . Go find your own place to live (instead of a hotel), you are grown-up aren't you? And why do you expect free food? . . . Granted, I understand she did or tried to cheat you out of pay; you chose her as the agent.
The salary for foreign teachers in Vietnam is garbage anyway, so I have no idea why you even chose this country. You could have made substantially more money teaching in a different Asian country with comparably low living expenses.
When I came to Vietnam to teach, I decided not to contact any agencies but go straight door to door, from one English center to another. And for good, as I see from this video
I too feel this aswell, I’ve been lucky to be in a decent language centre however they are very dishonest, ignore your issues and not pay you on time.
I maybe lucky but I think Vietnam has been a disappointing experience by lack of care and dishonesty to foreigners who live and work here.
This is definitely a very common experience. Even some bigger companies are doing this now... based on my own experience
I am not surprised at all.
Do you any recommendations for an authentic agent. Am actually an experienced teacher currently in Vietnam and looking for a teaching job.
Did you find any?
Well, yeah. If you want something done then do it yourself. If you need an apartment look for it yourself, because for many younger Vietnamese your apartment is actually can be considered decent or even good. (if that is the apartment shown in the video). Why would she pay for your room? The agent's job is to find you a teaching position.
We discussed the apartment situation in advance. I had already lived in Vietnam and had clearly demonstrated my housing requirements to her. It was her responsibility to find suitable accommodation for me, as was agreed upon earlier. In the end, she made no effort to find appropriate housing. It is only because there are people like you who agree to live in terrible conditions without holding the agent accountable that people like this awful woman continue to run their business.
@@TopESLGames i don't know why you trusted her with the apartment search and let her pay for it. Most rented places will require you to sign a contract and pay a deposit. They also need to register you with the police. This is the sad reality of this country, a poor customer experience is a norm even with the biggest companies especially when they work with foreigners, not to mention some petty 'agents'.
Oh no where are they get those dog from . Where are the animal right and protection . What a sadness , it makes me cry
Your aware eating dog in Vietnam is a cultural thing right? It's part of the Cold/Hot "inner body" as it's called
It's also a traditional food north and south on 3 separte holidays in VIetnam
I suppose you can imagine the emotions of a European who is forced to live in a similar part of the city. This employer did not think at all about the feelings of the newly arrived employee.
All animals should be treated equal
Is that Jenny Nguyen that is using 2 Zalo groups for finding jobs?
No
@@lourensgerber9084 I saw that the Jenny mentioned here was also offering jobs in those 2 groups from Jenny Nguyen.
This shit happens all over the world China, Russia, Vietnam everywhere.
Is Jenny's boyfriend in Vietnam legally?
I assume he has a visa, but I'm not sure he's working legally. Janny offered me a job as a manager, not as a teacher, and I was originally supposed to work using a business visa. Which, as we know, is not exactly legal, to say the least.
Report them@@TopESLGames
@@TopESLGames He looks like a Muslim.
The only horrifying aspect of this story is the sense of entitlement. Like which part was the actual scam here other than she said she was working on getting a better apartment? You tried to scam her by expecting her to pay for the hotel room you wanted. Then you say you pay for your own transport and food? That's how life operates in every country. Then there's the hide to mention a language barrier? Like what the actual fuck? You want to teach English in a foreign fucking country and then suggest English speakers may struggle to communicate with locals? How about learning some fucking Vietnamese to communicate with locals? And my God, the thought of having to adjust to different customs in a foreign country....
Let's go in order. At that time I had already lived in Vietnam for half a year. And I had experience teaching English in the south of the country. And I clearly knew the local rules and realities. Living in a comfortable apartment was very important to me. And we discussed this aspect in advance. I clearly outlined my requirements for the apartment. And yes, she promised to find me a suitable option. We discussed my arrival in advance and the dishonest agent had enough time to prepare an apartment for me. Further, our agreement was that I would only stay in the hotel for twenty-four hours, no more than that. And I was only prepared for that expenditure. Third, we had no language barrier. Everything was clearly defined. Fourth, she offered to buy a refrigerator and a washing machine at my expense... in a horrible rented apartment... what's that if not bullying a foreigner? Fifth, she also didn't pay me for my lessons, which I had already done.
Bottom line - her behavior was horrible, and completely disrespectful. And yes, you are absolutely right, it is very important for me to keep my dignity. I have worked in many different countries, including Africa and Nepal. And in no other country in the world I have encountered such horrible and disrespectful treatment of foreign teachers.
I agree with you, terrible place
Oh! I followed you longtime!
The first, I want to tell you WELLCOME TO VIET NAM!
I saw your video and I know It was terrible!
I hope someone can help you or give for you some advices !
I shared for my friend, I think someone can help you .
He is lair, nothing of what he said is true, he wasted our time, I tried to help him even I don't know him because he is new in Vietnam and I know that he will suffer if he did not get the job immediately, but he wasn't polite at all, he did not like any room of more that 10 rooms even very nice and new room no one lived there before, but he said no I won't work I want to live in the city center, then he went away. Without say thanks for what I did to him. If he is saying the true he can show the messages and show the room pictures that we find for him 😅, but I'm sure he will not show anything because he is just a lair 😂😂😂😂
@NhuNguyen-fk5yy Thank you for your support. Luckily, I met so many good people in Vietnam; however, unfortunately, there are still many agents like Jenny who cheat foreign teachers. As you have been watching my videos for a long time, you know that I have worked as a teacher abroad in different countries, but I have never met such terrible people before. It was my first time experiencing an agent who didn't pay me at all. I hope that more local schools and teachers will watch this video and avoid any dealings with these unscrupulous individuals. They bring shame to Vietnam and its teaching industry.
@@hassanmoustafa3540 oh! You are so kind!
When I ask my friend, he told me he still has bad experiences! 😆
But I think not only him meet terrible times!
So I hope some agents can change to help the new foreign teachers!
Thanks! Have a nice weekend! ☺️
I believe AVSE tesol with Peter is one of the best agents to use.
What about emg education?
He will receive more than what he did, let wait
Дээээээ.... А я рассматривал Вьетнам как запасной вариант после Китая 😅
У меня были такие же мысли, но, на деле же з/п и уровень жизни/прогресса на порядок ниже, кидают агенты и школы постоянно, отношение к иностранным преподавателям намного хуже, чем в Китае. В видео лишь одна история с самым ужасным агентом, с которым довелось работать, была ситуация и непосредственно со школой, когда не оплатили жилье и вычли расходы на визу (платить они должны были), но это другая история... так что не рекомендую. В группах на ФБ также очень много негативных отзывов про работу и отношение работодателей/агентов во Вьетнаме. В целом "рынок переполнен" и есть те, кто готов жить на 5м^2 и работать "за еду".
@@TopESLGames спасибо за столь развёрнутый ответ. Я догадывался что там намного хуже. Но оказывается всё ещё хуже ))
@@googliization Im a person he reported, he lied,
Russians teaching English??? 😂😂😂
@@user-wm2tw why not? )
Hello ma'am
Why are you using an agent to get you a job and apartment?
She already paid for an apartment and you expect her to pay for a hotel room too? I don't understand what the scam is? You had to pay for lunch and transport? Normal
You quit, presumably breaking contract, and expected to still get paid?
Trying to sell you a motorbike? Also normal.
So, I had already been to Vietnam and during all our negotiations, I made it very clear that it was important for me to live in comfortable conditions. Moreover, I showed photos and videos of the apartments I had stayed in while in another city in Vietnam. I conveyed that my housing should not be of a lower class. To which the woman of questionable morals stated that this was not a problem and that I would only need to spend one night in a hotel. In the end, she did not search for any suitable apartments meeting my criteria. Moreover, she did not pay for the hut where, according to her, I was supposed to live. No, it is not normal for a foreign teacher to pay for food in a school, nor for taxi rides that she organized. Again, this was not my initiative. It was also highly inappropriate for her boyfriend to offer an old, non-working motorcycle when I was staying in a hotel. We had not yet signed the contract, and, of course, she was obliged to pay for my work. I am astonished that there are people who do not value their work, are ready to live in a hut, and justify the actions of such a horrible woman of questionable morals and her boyfriend, a Muslim who betrayed the values of his faith. I thought Muslim people have straight rules about that aspect.
😂😂😂
The content of the video is ridiculous. It should be removed from TH-cam.
I understand your concern about the fact that such dishonest agents tarnish the image of your country. After all, they represent Vietnam and foreigners judge the country based on their interactions with them. However, it is important for local schools and foreign teachers to know the truth in order to avoid similar situations in the future. To my great fortune, I have met many truly good people in Vietnam and I sincerely hope that over time a favorable atmosphere for foreign teachers will develop in Vietnam, and that agents and schools will not engage in such behavior again and treat foreign teachers with respect going forward.
"Fat and broke" youtube channel actually ran into a similar situation in Vietnam. A business hired him to be a DJ and he worked for at least a month and kept asking to get paid and they kept saying that we will eventually pay you. He quit and they never did pay him his salary.
@@MyLifeThai371 Unfortunately, in Vietnam, many foreign workers are deceived in various fields, and such situations occur quite often. Many dishonest agents and schools create unfavorable conditions, hoping that the foreigner has no choice but to agree to work. These unscrupulous people, whom I talked about in the video, were counting on this. When I announced that I would no longer tolerate the inconvenience, they immediately came to the hotel and tried to persuade me to stay. At the same time, of course, they did not pay me for my work or offer any alternative accommodation.
@@MyLifeThai371 the problem is he can't even work as a DJ. Maybe his permission was only for teaching with a company. If he is married to a vietnamese, the DJ company must apply for a work permit exception and they are lazy for that.
@MyLifeThai371 he worked for 5days only.
That dog meat looked great
😂
Keep your racist sentiments to yourself, someone like you should know better. Hater probably attacks old Asians in his spare time