Doppler Baker & Rampal on Cavett

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  • @earthstewardude
    @earthstewardude 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Julius Baker was my roommate's dad ... Jonathan Baker - he lived with me in Atlanta briefly. He told me that his dad did the short flute diddy for the NBC peacock the opened it's feathers and then the announcer would say "In Living Color..."

  • @rudolphmcneill3333
    @rudolphmcneill3333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so epic and historic. We don't see Masters of "classical" music perform on shows like this ever these days. Loved it.

  • @chrrytree
    @chrrytree 15 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    wow, i never realized how low they hold the flute. i'm tempted to show this to my band director to prove that your flute shouldn't be parallel to the ground
    it's inspiring to see how they play

  • @tuttilynn3791
    @tuttilynn3791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one has tone quality as good as Baker. Rampal, well, his perfection in French music is just that, perfection. Love them both. 💗💗💗 I had the pleasure of watching this live, thank you for posting. 😀

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly that's just opinion. I studied with Baker at Juilliard for six years. Nice sound but definitely not the best that I've heard.
      So much has changed over the years. It's no longer acceptable to do general imitations of Heifetz on the flute and then apply those to all phrases, pieces, and genres. The absolute best flutists of today are incredibly good at allowing the music to tell them what to do. That said, the "American School of Flute Playing" is now a dinosaur. It was unfortunately based on a lot of misguidance.

    • @wmgflute
      @wmgflute 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you win a job or have a career on the level of Baker or Rampal’s, then this comment would be valid. But until then…

  • @osamusakura
    @osamusakura 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great! I can' believe the video of such dream duo exists. Marvelous.

  • @PooMonkeyMan
    @PooMonkeyMan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video was the first time I've heard the Doppler, and has always been my reference for its performance tempo. I've looked up other performances, but their tempos just didn't seem righter after listening to this performance.
    Love this rendition of the Rondo.

    • @aububitza
      @aububitza 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You listen to no1 and no2 in all history ( my 2 cents)

  • @jpritcha
    @jpritcha 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting this video. I still remember this Cavett show broadcast vividly. It was a "holy moment" for American television.
    Rampal played on Johnny Carson show once. That was magic as well. Anybody got access to that 1970s video?

  • @paulflute007
    @paulflute007 15 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great stuff -- There isn't nearly enough of Julius Baker on utube -- I hope those having videos of him will post them

  • @pirsingers
    @pirsingers 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh God, i love it!! Their tempo is fantastic!! I remember when i learnt it we coud play it much slower.. BEAUTIFUL!!!!

  • @yanpan16
    @yanpan16 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing to see this. i am playing this for my HSC programme, it's so good to see some of the top flute players ever playing it. what a fantastic way to be inspired!

  • @TheRevelation0
    @TheRevelation0 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I'm speechless. These legends play with so much grace! This song fills my heart with joy.

  • @marybarratt909
    @marybarratt909 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been looking for the recording of Rampal and Baker duets for years - I think I've finally found it! What joy!

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      They recorded an actual album in Baker's old apartment. Baker owned a small recording label.

  • @rustydog1236
    @rustydog1236 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    What amazingly different sounds the two have. Very Nice...

  • @evasflute
    @evasflute 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan! I just stumbled on this video randomly. What a nice surprise. The two masters at work :)

  • @panflute0420
    @panflute0420 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow!!
    it's truely a fantastic surprise.^^

  • @Bashkii
    @Bashkii 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The greatest flutists together!!!

  • @tomsteward
    @tomsteward 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was about to clap and stand up in a standing ovation in front of my computer and then i forgot that i wasn't at the performance, i was at home in our office, but yeah... i had totally forgotten!!!

  • @flutey77
    @flutey77 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Masters at work !!

  • @mogly62
    @mogly62 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love love love rampal 4ever...

  • @victor6298
    @victor6298 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    maravilloso video e interpretación de dos grandes de la flauta...diré mejor un excelente compositor y un gran flautista para ser exactamente justo!! que lujo!!!

  • @michaelflute1
    @michaelflute1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW...I just have to say WOW!!!!!

  • @babyelephant2418
    @babyelephant2418 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this duet

  • @arumugamyau
    @arumugamyau 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting this video :)

  • @shivanirani1259
    @shivanirani1259 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfection.

  • @aubriedionne
    @aubriedionne 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love their tempo!

  • @hank3258
    @hank3258 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems Rexicano has been sniffing glue again

  • @furassicpark7642
    @furassicpark7642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice to see good old C foots on those flutes 😃

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rampal thought B foot joints were nonsense. I'm thinking of having both B and C foot joints made for my next flute to really explore the difference for myself. If drastic, then I'll stick with a C. I've never played a piece of music that had a low B in it. I know that someone is going to mention a convertible foot joint that is also available...simply don't care for that.

    • @michaelschonauer7238
      @michaelschonauer7238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yishihara55527 Never played a piece with a low B?? How about the Doppler Hungarian Pastorale Fantasy? There are two low B's in that piece if I remember correctly.

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelschonauer7238 My point is that low Bs are so rare that it doesn't justify purchasing a low B. I've always owned low Bs "just because," but Rampal always felt that flutes with C foot joints make the flute much more stable.

    • @1gamueller
      @1gamueller 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelschonauer7238 Trockne Blumen

  • @doppleristgut
    @doppleristgut  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are 2 LPs of duets of these two. If I remember correctly, the record label is Washington.

  • @sitarnut
    @sitarnut 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, used to see Ominbus, Miles Davis and The Brubeck Quartet.... how far we've fallen....

  • @michaelarichea1978
    @michaelarichea1978 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the faster tempo, but they never seem to click into it exactly together (Jean Pierre's a hair ahead a lot, isn't he?) BUT, you know that saying "they make it look easy" ? Doesn't apply to this Doppler! There's nothing worse than hearing the final "a tempo" of the Rondo played relaxed and easy. When the last page feels unhinged like a run-away train, and both flutists are holding on for dear life (which is of course the way I love to play it) it always *always* brings down the house!!

  • @sitarnut
    @sitarnut 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a comment- Rampal and Hariprasad Chaurasia (my Indian Raga music hero) used to hang out together when Hariji had a concert in Paris.... if you haven't heard Hariji's tone on bamboo flute, check him out...

  • @mc526
    @mc526 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do show it to your band director ! Holding the flute parallel to the ground can cause muscle stress and injury. For marching you may have to do it, but for concert playing, you should be able to hold the flute properly: angled down.

  • @neneloko18
    @neneloko18 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG! Doppler and Rampal T_T

  • @AaronFolseMUA
    @AaronFolseMUA 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this piece! One of my favorite flute duets, played by two true masters of the instrument. I only wish they could have put a little more musicality into it and slowed the tempo a bit, but of course they can do no wrong.

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe because Doppler was a room temp IQ composer and they just decided to use it as a showpiece (which it is) for TV? Perhaps that Baker guy and that French dude knew something.

  • @GrassiMax
    @GrassiMax 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stupendo

  • @Kingfotog
    @Kingfotog 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding. Video of Julius Baker is very rare. Anyone know when this is from?

  • @breakfastplan4518
    @breakfastplan4518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Baker.. But Rampal's command of the flute is on another level.

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      On a good day, Rampal is impossible to beat.

  • @melodiesandrhythm
    @melodiesandrhythm 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    you're so lucky!

  • @Flautistotle
    @Flautistotle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    C foots!

    • @379val
      @379val 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rampal preferred the c foot, he was not a fan of the low b note.

  • @powellpicc1985
    @powellpicc1985 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The low register feels and sounds better on a C foot. Playing the low B is the only real reason to have the B foot :-) Bs are so rare anyway that it's really just easier to use the C and enjoy not worrying about the extra key.
    crogersrx is indeed correct about the B natural, though there IS an extention to allow a B-flat.

  • @Enidan453
    @Enidan453 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me and friend play this! Its so awesome xD

    • @sgsmozart
      @sgsmozart 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your English atrocious..it's " a friend and I"

    • @Enidan453
      @Enidan453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sgsmozart Your English is* atrocious. You forgot your verb... :/ I would recommend you read the book: Introducing English Grammar by Burridge

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Enidan453 Yes. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

  • @edyelwys
    @edyelwys 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @houtblazer voçê teria as partes desse duo sou flautista e gostei mesmoo

  • @powellpicc1985
    @powellpicc1985 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    dopplerisgut, I love you for this. Where on earth did you find it?

  • @Tibicina4JMJ
    @Tibicina4JMJ 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing this with the world :D It makes me happy to see such masters at work. Just think how blessed we'd be to have videos of, say, Beethoven??

  • @leo5208
    @leo5208 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just after the 5:00 mark, Rampal says something about it being Hungarian music, if that's the spot you mean.

  • @henrygarciga
    @henrygarciga 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, flute duets give a greatly animated voicing and color tone. As with much of Bach's music, the flutes conjure up courtly dance movements releasing the stiff tension of baroque performance.

  • @sgsmozart
    @sgsmozart 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two masters but Rampal must have set the tempo because of the extreme speed. I have heard him ' live" about 6 or 7 times and always the tempos are just to fast.AT this rate, musicality goes out the door.

  • @jrbrook76
    @jrbrook76 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @korearox92 I'd have to say that you are ignorant for calling someone else's teacher a moron. Though, your sentiment is correct. It would cause problems. Band directors who aren't flutists don't know everything about the flute. Doesn't make them morons. Teachers work their butts off. and chriswtburke, Rampal's flute is all gold...quite heavy compared to the nickel flutes that band kids play...your shoulder would just about fall off if you played "Parallel" for very long ;-)

  • @houtblazer
    @houtblazer 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @dasteufelhund yes, and he is a little more lyrical

  • @doppleristgut
    @doppleristgut  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mid-1970s.

  • @klezmerflute
    @klezmerflute 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low B's have been around longer than many think. Simple system flutes of the 19th c. had low Bs. They're not that new, really. Doppler's flute(s) may have even had a B but of course C major and A minor wouldn't call for for that note much anyway.

  • @tomsteward
    @tomsteward 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    referring to the "from another jb" comment...

  • @tomsteward
    @tomsteward 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    im assuming this might be jeanne baxtresser? haha

  • @efanshel
    @efanshel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    who is the pianist?

  • @crogersrx
    @crogersrx 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you mean, "why don't their flutes have Low B keys?" There's no low B-flat.

    • @michaelschonauer7238
      @michaelschonauer7238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually, Parmenon has made a flute that is capable of going down to a low A.

  • @flutedivo
    @flutedivo 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your negative comments needless in this case. What have you done to contribute to the legacy of flute music. Don't be spiteful!!
    Your opinions and observations are just that.

  • @jrbrook76
    @jrbrook76 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's rushed and not very musical in my opinion. Have to pay respect to Rampal for what he did in the flute world, but my general opinion of much of his recordings is that he plays too fast and ignores the music, just likes to wham out notes as fast as possible and as hard as possible. Now, if I really was going to "Compare" them, like Cavett is joking at....I'd say that Julie wins hands down. His style was always exquisitely musical and delicate in all the recordings of his I have studied.

    • @yishihara55527
      @yishihara55527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a Baker student but have to admit that Rampal was vastly superior.

  • @SweetFromSaturn
    @SweetFromSaturn 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah, your flute should never be parallel to the ground. Its a very unnatural position to play in and causes a lot of unnecessary tension. Only reason why they push to play that way is b/c of the visual aspects in marching band. Its so stupid and impractical, and causes a lot of bad habits in students..

    • @paulrchapman1
      @paulrchapman1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the late 90’s I gave a series of Alexander Technique sessions to members of the band of the Coldstream Guards.
      One of the trombonists found it particularly difficult to maintain the slide parallel to the ground when marching. It forced the head back and contradicted Alexander’s early discovery ( and what he called a keystone to his Technique, that of “inhibition“ ) of preventing the pulling back of the head by tension in the neck.
      The trombone player found he couldn’t tolerate this any more and left.