Don't Hit The Ditch - Wreckfest C Class Tournament #1

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  • @longbowxmkii
    @longbowxmkii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I was really really _really_ thankful I put some thick armor on in that last race x)

    • @cachemoney7873
      @cachemoney7873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I LOVE THE WRECK FEST TOURNEMENTS.

    • @MisterVercetti
      @MisterVercetti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Armor to protect from laser-guided Alex missiles.

    • @leon_brave_racing898
      @leon_brave_racing898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go straiter failrace when you get on the throttle so it doesn't spin you. Stop yanking that stupid stick thats stupid hard to control.

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What system do you guys do Survive the Hunt in GTA on?

    • @jjrs2749
      @jjrs2749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@corbinselanne7990 What would you mean by that? Pc setup?

  • @Ultrafarer
    @Ultrafarer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    "Be mindful of the mound of dirt on the inside."
    He had a name!!

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think Alex was referring to an ACTUAL mound of dirt on the inside, the wrecked Bumpy was a little past there

  • @jaisjain
    @jaisjain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    This guy is so underated

    • @quinncurley6480
      @quinncurley6480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dude he has 427 thousand subscribers are you high

    • @quinncurley6480
      @quinncurley6480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s a great TH-camr but not underrated because he has this many subscribers

    • @CuriousMind99420
      @CuriousMind99420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Think what my man spongebob was tryna say is he deserves more recognition than he already has x

    • @samuelberghuvud5527
      @samuelberghuvud5527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@quinncurley6480
      *N O T E N O U G H*

    • @Dsnow1010best
      @Dsnow1010best 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very much so

  • @torinio
    @torinio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Let's go the tournaments are so much fun to watch

    • @mrash7560
      @mrash7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your sentence structure is really winding me up.

    • @torinio
      @torinio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mrash7560 ok

    • @mrash7560
      @mrash7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@torinio ok

  • @EmbraerLegacy600
    @EmbraerLegacy600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yay, Foxxy and Ninetails are back!

  • @Cruzz999
    @Cruzz999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Oh hey, Ninetails is around! That's always nice to see!

  • @Dangerman8000
    @Dangerman8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yh this round was interesting

  • @realhippie5368
    @realhippie5368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    poor Bumpy really got shafted this video... cant wait to hear that on the other perspectives lmao

    • @longbowxmkii
      @longbowxmkii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      His car was a bit...fragile ^^;

    • @davidsweeney9114
      @davidsweeney9114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love the film crew videos solely for Bumpy yelling. He needs his own channel.

  • @crashracer
    @crashracer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really looking forward to the next part of this tournament. The newer circuits that have been added to Wreckfest like Wrecknado and Pinehills are great fun.

  • @LaddOfficial
    @LaddOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    i had a good time doing this. i didnt record it as i wanted to just enjoy it in the moment. Blade was good. i was less so XD

    • @vincejeugmans8941
      @vincejeugmans8941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how do i get to play with you guys?

    • @revs7837
      @revs7837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We will just have to wait to see the best moment of the night from Longbow.

  • @cachemoney7873
    @cachemoney7873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I LOVE THE WRECK FEST TOURNEMENTS.

  • @electramotive
    @electramotive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    hearing did not finish as "dunf" a single syllable? that's a first for me 😂

    • @Timberwolf69
      @Timberwolf69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You must be new. Welcome aboard. 😉

    • @stratis722
      @stratis722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      wait till you hear muh-puh-vuh

    • @monkeyatanofficedesk9253
      @monkeyatanofficedesk9253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't that just how ita pronounced

    • @electramotive
      @electramotive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stratis722 nah I've heard that, I believe it's for the Vapid Radius

    • @stratis722
      @stratis722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@electramotive ah yes

  • @streydemon9513
    @streydemon9513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It may not be as exciting, but I still like this kind of content. Driving around by yourself. You had races in the pack as well.

  • @SRFriso94
    @SRFriso94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glad to see another one of these, I really enjoyed this the last time you did it. Wreckfest makes for a way better game to do tournaments in than GTA V.

  • @EmilGlockner
    @EmilGlockner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought the Rammer in C-class was the best C-class car. Gave the Gremlin in C(163)-class a go in a 10 laps solo race around Firestone. 0:59.025 fastest lap vs the Rammer in C(164)-clas with a 0:59.245. Thanks for making me test the Gremlin, Alex :)

  • @Twannnng
    @Twannnng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It would be a lot easier to follow the tournament if you, a) explained the scoring, and b) showed us the leaderboard after each race, or at any point other than right at the end. Not much excitement if we've no idea who's winning until the end.

    • @guitarprogrock
      @guitarprogrock ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. How does the scoring work?

  • @cloveruty
    @cloveruty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here's a suggestion for a tournament: Permadeath Elimination!
    Start out with a max number of racers on the grid. Every round there will be 3-5 races. You get points based on your performance in the races. If you do not have enough points to qualify for the next round, or you are wrecked / DNFed, you are out.

  • @MisterVercetti
    @MisterVercetti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What I want to know is how the hell Bumpy DNF’d half the races and still managed to come three positions out of last place.

  • @therealchickentender
    @therealchickentender 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is still one of best looking, most enjoyably fun physics racing around.

  • @lucastalbott5966
    @lucastalbott5966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was some excellent driving! I hope to see more tournaments I'm the future, they're great fun to watch

  • @MPPelli
    @MPPelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wreckfest is a nice balance between the hilariously random GTA V physics, and the boring indestructo-mobiles of Forza. As a viewer this is probably my favourite form of FailRace racing.

  • @vomitman7533
    @vomitman7533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A little late, but leaving a comment for the algorithm. Always good to see another wreckfest video and can't wait to see part 2!

  • @revs7837
    @revs7837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    First time in filming. I regret my choice, shouldve gone with the dominator. Also my hit on Alex on wrecknado was amazing.

    • @jammydodger7065
      @jammydodger7065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder if anyone helped you before the race :O

    • @revs7837
      @revs7837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jammydodger7065 if only I chose the dominator. It was very good in the Wreckfest stream the other weekend.

  • @bendurber4472
    @bendurber4472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I forgot all about you and I used to watch you when I was I was 10 and now I’m 13 and loving you content again

  • @AudreyLudlow
    @AudreyLudlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see you did another tournament, they are fun to watch.

  • @jonahfastre
    @jonahfastre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see a #1 so I hope we get more!

  • @YuxxyBoyo
    @YuxxyBoyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all your videos, but these tournaments are certainly some of my favorites.

  • @henryrodgers7386
    @henryrodgers7386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love C and B class. You get a massive variety of cars, Hornets and Outlaws and Vandals and Matadors!
    You also TEND to have cleaner races / racers, in my experience.
    Anyone have a favorite C class car? My heavily armored Matador does quite well, though it is rather oversteery.

  • @AHkouwgom
    @AHkouwgom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoy watching you guys racing with this crew! I just think for Wreckfest videos its a shame you guys are too carefull while racing. Trow some sneaky bumps and humps in there!

  • @Atom.Storm.
    @Atom.Storm. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've given up on driving games for the last few years. Gran Turismo, crew 2. All the last few games I played everything was understeery. It took so much of the fun out of it. Tried this and it was the same.

  • @thoralexander9387
    @thoralexander9387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hornet, Gremlin, Rebel, this game (like me) loves AMC!

    • @raregliscor1
      @raregliscor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of those cars are AMCs in game lol

    • @thoralexander9387
      @thoralexander9387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raregliscor1 I know, but the names live on, if only in spirit. It is somewhat cursed to see ANYTHING named a gremlin win a race, regardless of whether it's actually being a chopped station wagon pretending to be a compact or not.

  • @bearrett50kal17
    @bearrett50kal17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE Gremlin in C-class, it's my only C-class racecar and it usually dominates public servers

  • @carmillawoo6505
    @carmillawoo6505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *sees 3 cars crashing right side, dust clouds covering the track*
    Yes, that's where I'm going to go!

  • @mrash7560
    @mrash7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Ugh helllouuuu and whelcome, to tha shooooouuuwwwwww"

  • @bigmandad2974
    @bigmandad2974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the casuleness of looking back and theres just a car verticle on the wrong side of the wall 14:10

    • @Timberwolf69
      @Timberwolf69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You either have eagle eyes or a big ass screen to watch this on...

  • @natalijalaonar8187
    @natalijalaonar8187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know, I was starting to think Gliscor and Ninetales are actually the same person, since I've never seen them together in a competition until now. But now that's settled at least :)

    • @raregliscor1
      @raregliscor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm not that good.

    • @natalijalaonar8187
      @natalijalaonar8187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raregliscor1 Actualy your performance in the past few events I've seen you in, I would put you against Ninetales any day :)

  • @davidwallbank572
    @davidwallbank572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laddo murdering Alex was class 😂

  • @tylertheotaku9270
    @tylertheotaku9270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wrecknado living up to it's name

  • @MisterVercetti
    @MisterVercetti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    22:25 Alex has no idea of the astounding grief he just caused Bumpy there. 😂🤣

  • @johnnyboy3949
    @johnnyboy3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see ninetales back

  • @brunolang210
    @brunolang210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:04 :D do i see some Failrace x Slaptrain action? I love them both!

  • @Leviathan946
    @Leviathan946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great last race, absolute nail biter.

  • @thegurem
    @thegurem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, this is the first video i see in a few hours.
    Why can I suddenly swap windows, and it shows in a small window overlapping my other stuff???! Its amazing! I dont have youtube premium, ive wanted this for 5 years

    • @nomindseye
      @nomindseye 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have firefox? I think I saw something about them adding such a feature a few months back. Maybe someone followed after their steps. Although in theory Google doesn't WANT to add such a feature, because it devalues their product.

    • @thegurem
      @thegurem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nomindseye aye, but I'm using the TH-cam mobile app on my android.
      Only thing it might be is that I'm using nordvpn, and set it to show me from america.

  • @posi_de
    @posi_de 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this stuff! More!!

  • @Nickersons-Theme
    @Nickersons-Theme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think most people don't realise how good WF can be for clean(ish) competitive racing

  • @misternormie
    @misternormie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor Bumpy.

  • @periurban
    @periurban 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much enjoyed.

  • @darthbader6506
    @darthbader6506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tournament!

  • @Strychuu
    @Strychuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next time race on the map that's basically 2 roundabouts and a straight line. It would create so much chaos

    • @celuler22
      @celuler22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crash ally is the best map

  • @livetyher6669
    @livetyher6669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played this on playstation now n it's very fun I always wanted to play it cus it was released on my birthday lol for the consoles

  • @MelissaTimea99
    @MelissaTimea99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sun of a ditch!

  • @fullbackdive41
    @fullbackdive41 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    FailRace using the Matt Crafton formula

  • @drache444444
    @drache444444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i literally stopped playing wreckfest when it went from "next car game" without healthbars and a nice "build your car and wrench on it without healthbars" idea to being wreckfest. for me it was another "never preorder" moment.
    and seing the second figure8 track i am feeling confirmed in my decision to not pick it back up since then. i really hate the healthbars tbh

  • @madblank
    @madblank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wreckfest is my favorite content that you create, it's a great game! I also like GTAV Survive the hunts, but would wish the hunters would be more organized. Any chance of putting out some Forza Horizon 3 content, like some muscle car races? I don't like 4 that much.

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wrecknado is like a hot wheels toy its awesome

  • @floydlooney6837
    @floydlooney6837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm terrible at the game, but it's awesome fun

  • @kanedevvo5824
    @kanedevvo5824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your car looked like it had a stroke after that crash😅 22:43

  • @ns6q333
    @ns6q333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *hits the ditch*

  • @michalkleszcz
    @michalkleszcz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @Schacal6666
    @Schacal6666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @johno7118
    @johno7118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey folks, how would I go about participating in these race? You have a discord or..?

  • @fiercetrains4052
    @fiercetrains4052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ur too nice on wreck feast, you gotta send it like eddy soundhead

  • @Noctoletsgo
    @Noctoletsgo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discussing who had right of way in a wreckfest figure 8

  • @cudak888
    @cudak888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Hornet."
    "Gremlin."
    Geez, the Wreckfest creators couldn't have chosen more confusing fake names for their cars, could they?

  • @dereksquires7251
    @dereksquires7251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i feel sorry for bumpy on the last race

  • @Shiggiesmalls02
    @Shiggiesmalls02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex essentially has the same driving style as Seb Vettel/ likes the same car set up

  • @Fireball_
    @Fireball_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New challenge

  • @profile_01
    @profile_01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wreckfest 2 coming for next-gen?

  • @mileshardin6906
    @mileshardin6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh a new video series! very cool! also can you check out the new teardown update? thanks!

  • @Auke1993
    @Auke1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the points system in this?

  • @bbenny9033
    @bbenny9033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    poor bumpy

  • @Glinty_
    @Glinty_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyway to join these lobbies like I did a few years ago?

  • @Nikhil-iv6ts
    @Nikhil-iv6ts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was watching your old videos, what happened to rhyss and barack? They don't play anymore?

    • @needforf1675
      @needforf1675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A fellow fan i see

    • @TheRealAlpha2
      @TheRealAlpha2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Someone a while back mentioned Rhys' system died and he didn't bother to replace it. I would guess others just bowed out gracefully to allow new folks a chance.

    • @p1eased0nteatme
      @p1eased0nteatme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRealAlpha2 Most people who aren’t around any longer just had other commitments to prioritise. Obamber is still around every now and again, but there are equally plenty of us who have been around for 5, 6, even 7 years :)

    • @TheRealAlpha2
      @TheRealAlpha2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p1eased0nteatme I guess it's the benefit of having so many trusted filmers that some can take a break for a while.

    • @p1eased0nteatme
      @p1eased0nteatme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRealAlpha2 Yeah, I suppose haha. Some do come and go for long periods but quite often people will end up coming back

  • @bigoledrewskii
    @bigoledrewskii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm assuming Ninetales wasn't invited to the tournament xD

  • @Cyberzonion
    @Cyberzonion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this game multiplatform, so like can someone playing on steam play against someone on PS4 or what ever?

  • @johnnyboy3949
    @johnnyboy3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a point for fastest lap? There should be

  • @Noctoletsgo
    @Noctoletsgo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plays wreckfest 'There will be some contact but we don't want any torpedo's'

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Daniil Kvyat played Wreckfest his main method of overtaking others basically equates to 'Torpedo'

  • @TheChrisD
    @TheChrisD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only ten laps for the oval race? Darn. Felt quite short that.

  • @johanizer2491
    @johanizer2491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it a AMC Gremlin ?

  • @Zolier
    @Zolier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this Photoshop?

  • @eddykibbz
    @eddykibbz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is ryss with the purple vehicles??????

  • @OGRadRider22
    @OGRadRider22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you get so many peopke in a lobby. In private matcg it only lets me do 8 max

    • @gower67
      @gower67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Create a public match and invite your party and kick people you don't want in it.

    • @longbowxmkii
      @longbowxmkii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry to anyone that was kicked lol

    • @OGRadRider22
      @OGRadRider22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.

  • @jwalster9412
    @jwalster9412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the wings actually change handling in wreck fest? I don't know.

    • @longbowxmkii
      @longbowxmkii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't believe they do

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@longbowxmkii interesting, thought they might. I guess their just astetics.

    • @longbowxmkii
      @longbowxmkii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jwalster9412 I had to make sure I put the word "don't" in there based on your response lol

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@longbowxmkii it appears I was In a rush to read this earlier and somewhat missed the word "don't"
      I'll edit to make it more clear.

  • @LOGGATO
    @LOGGATO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 cylinder noise.... V6 hater pipes.... IDK if I could ever drive that car!

  • @firehedgehog1446
    @firehedgehog1446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know? When I first saw the title on the thumbnail, I misread it as "Don't be a bitch"

  • @digbyodell2924
    @digbyodell2924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tell everyone the racing is, or at least has the potential to be fantastic, but the consequences of collisions and getting frustrated by huge time gaps or constantly being headhunted puts a lot of casual racers off. The novelty of spectacular crashes only holds for so long except for the young and immature. I would like to see the A.I. performance gap narrowed significantly so the top car is only a second or so slower than the last car in each class. And FH4 ghost starting would help a LOT methinks because more folks get frustrated in the first 20 seconds with all the beating and banging than any other time.

  • @ethmister
    @ethmister 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this on console?

  • @UltraBlakey
    @UltraBlakey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently I just like 4th place?

    • @kniterider666
      @kniterider666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least you were consistent

  • @Alfahippie
    @Alfahippie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “We follow some gentlemen rules, no torpedo crashing or anything like that”. I’m sorry sir, but this is not how you play this game.

    • @raregliscor1
      @raregliscor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not how you play the game perhaps...but us? Its how we do the thing.

    • @floydlooney6837
      @floydlooney6837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The AI don't even play nice on the easy setting, I barely ever finish a whole race.

    • @raregliscor1
      @raregliscor1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@floydlooney6837 I feel like thats a you problem.

    • @floydlooney6837
      @floydlooney6837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raregliscor1 feelings, nothing more than feelings...

  • @evanbelknap3884
    @evanbelknap3884 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how dare you takeout bumpy

  • @BryonLape
    @BryonLape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alex doing those odd GTA mods again.

  • @959_MC
    @959_MC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The rules seem to be designed to make the most boring races possible in wreckfest

  • @johnbeer4963
    @johnbeer4963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to get into this group of racers. I'm not terrible at GTA but i'm a bit of a wreckfest god, i challenge each and every one of you to a class C race, raiden, hammerhead RS, and super venom banned as those cars are particularly OP - as much as 2 seconds per lap. Your choice of tracks, i'll take firefly

  • @theangrycrow3504
    @theangrycrow3504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    whears the pizza car

  • @cristobalarriagada673
    @cristobalarriagada673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear god I so misread the title

  • @gorpyt
    @gorpyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can I join survive the hunt

    • @darksheikgaming
      @darksheikgaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly the STH is for Failrace crew only, but you can sign up for the "VS the Community" on Forza Horizon 4 through their Discord which is the description.

  • @ftobin
    @ftobin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No catchup mechanic makes for a boring race.

  • @killer187ify
    @killer187ify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    333 333 333 ... ... ...

  • @Tuljan420
    @Tuljan420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oi

    • @ns6q333
      @ns6q333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he first

  • @basildaoust2821
    @basildaoust2821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheekie pass, drivers pulls out a gun and shoots the cheater in the head. Now he won't check any more. You know, I think you all need to watch and listen to a real driver tell you how you SHOULD drive because driving into the door of a car is not a valid pass you need to be side by side to get to the corner not just the nose of your car. I know the game really needs referees to give time penalties and setpoint payout for the race to ZERO so people stop driving like you guys are. I used to think better of you then I learned at least one version of the rules, I know everyone seems to have their own rules. So if your watchers are happy I will go back and sit in the corner :) Drive on.