Skiing the zipper line is a style used in competitive freestyle mogul skiing. The method he is demonstrates is more of a general recreational style that ski instructors teach and most skiers use in every day skiing. It emphasizes more speed control. The zipper line is more about going as fast looking exciting to score points with the judges. In most cases when skiing off piste, especially in trees and steep chutes you need to control speed and turn in a certain direction as the terrain and obstacles dictate. This is the style he is recommending.
Pole plants for timing are crucial. "Punching" through pole plants are important to keep from getting in the backseat (like very early in the video). Standing a little taller and more over the center of the skis will help with terrain absorption and balance. Versatility is key - different lines, turn shapes, speed, and techniques are helpful for varying conditions and terrain. Icy bumps are different from soft ones, which are different from slushy ones or ones covered with fresh, etc. Same goes for steepness, trees, etc. Fall line skiing down the zipper line can be tons of fun, but it's not the only way.
How tight should i have my shoe bcs most of time i do them tight and when i lean forward with my shins it feels like the are getting loose and i start bending way to far forward and i have to tighten them really often or is it just my feeling and its fine
@@ClassicTorunless I am doing a specific drill I have my boots extremely tight. Use booster straps (an after market strap for your boots) they are so much better than normal boot straps that they are basically required.
8:37... Lol.. the slomo and elephant sound were perfect! (laughing before too). Most enjoyable mogul lesson I've ever seen and the best. Kudos! 😎... subbed.
Loved it, too. When the monoski got stuck in the mogul and he left without it. That's just the DIN setting. It happened to me too on regular skis. The skis were parked pretty nice and parallel to each other on the front of the mogul, while I ejected and continued without them because the DIN was set too low. He looks great on that thing. Very interesting approach to moguls. I'd have to try it, although I still try to imagine how that will look like. My 2 cents on skis. I tried moguls in al lot of different pairs of regulars, and 3 different types of mogul skis. Yes, you can ski them on any skis, but the feeling is soooooo different. Even between soft and stiff dedicated ones. There is nothing like controlling you speed, plunging your tips and absorbing the bump on a softer, dedicated ski, and it's not that great on stiff ones even if it helps you go faster. Soft for dancing and waltzing, stiff for bullying and playing tough. Personally, I prefer a good waltz, like dancing with a nice partner instead of getting in a street fight. I'm still looking for the one that's the best compromise between a regular ski and a mogul dedicated one. I have my favorite for moguls, but not advertising it here. :)
Nice slope and powder! Mogule is a lot more fun in fluffy powder (as most skiing). I agree with the idea of bashing right into the bumps rather than going around, but I miss the description of ‘absorbing’ the bumps with your knees and keep your upper body levelled. That is really good practice and gives good speed control. And powder makes it so much fun! I envy you guys 😊
Contrary to racing or piste skiing, moguls skiing demands a very “narrow” stance (racing is the quite opposite, since legs MUST be wide apart to allow for a 100% grip and action on each ski independently). Since mogul skiing demands a highly dynamic movement of legs and constant rotation from one turn to the next, a narrow stance prevents from one ski to suddenly “interfere” with the other leg, due to a partial rotation. Both skiers in the video (with the exception of the mono skier for obvious reasons) kept an unnecessary separation of legs which adds to the risk of a potential trip over. Moguls can be skied depending on the landing zone we want to take (the zipper line or rut line, but also the inside-wall line or the outer bank line, and more relaxed one). This guy in his part 3 video shows a really good example of these different lines on how to tackle a mogul. th-cam.com/video/wTHvtf6lBYw/w-d-xo.html
Zipper is not traditional. It’s new school. Zipper is no fun. Must agree with you ski the tops of the mogulwhere the snow is. Love real moguls. Good video.
Yes, exactly. I have some good video material on "absorption" that I have been planning to release as that is such a big part of this kind of mogul skiing. I can basically ski as slowly as want by absorbing the moguls so that gives me full control of my speed. There are basically two options: banging down the zipper line in high speed and impact on the knees and other parts of the body not to talk about crashing and injury or, ski the technical line into the snow piles and over the bumps with a more humane impact on the body at the pace you choose. Cheers, Tom
Nice and thank for all your videos. Are you guys skiing SL skis? I would love to hear your comments if other skis make it easier to ski the bumps than the hard Sl skis.
Not sure what skis would be the best ones for bumps as I only use SL skis when I ski bumps. Its because I only use SL or GS skis. Or sometimes SG skis if we are training for a race. The only bad thing about SL skis in bumps is that I ruin them. I give them a beating Im not sure they are designed to withstand. Also, usually when I ski bumps I also ski on groomers to get there and to get out of there so it is a compromize. Sofar I have never tried skis that I liked better than racing skis. And I think they perform better than averidge skis also in bumps.
Great video. Now I'm not interested about racing anymore, all I wanna do is to learn how to ski the Zipper Line, coz it's really awesome. Do u have any bump schools there in Finland? Heippa.
@@Triggerboy62 Yep, it was very helpful, thank you for your great reply. Was skiing bumps on Kitzsteinhorn (in Kaprun) this weekend, it's like you hate'em and swear to never ski'em again but they are like magnet, you just can't stop trying ...
I think this is actually the more correct way to ski moguls, zipper line is more for racing on a well maintained slope. Especially for starting out. If you try to zipper line moguls the first time you ski a double black you will probably just have a life threatening crash. You have to learn how to control your speed before you start going fast.
I want to tell you a joke, sir. Pope of Rome, received gift from u.s. a super car,Cadillac,and said to the driver: Let's go on the highway for a ride! The driver goes on the highway and 150, 200, 300 km / h. The Pope of Rome says: I want to drive too, come and sit in the back. And it starts, 150,200, 300 ... The highway patrol stops them. Go and see who is driving, says the policeman to his colleague. He walks, looks out the window, comes back and says: I don't know who can be in the back, but his driver is: the Pope of Rome ...... So do you, sir. Who can you be? if you ski with Marcel Hirscher and Ted Lighety at the breakfast?!?
Triggerboy62 snowmaking was basically originally developed here.. the old triple and double air/water mix guns from Hedco and Ratnik industries was invented by one of the original management guys at Bristol.. here is a real cool video with some nice views of our hill and some incite into snowmaking.. check it out and feel free to vote for Bristol!!😁www.saminfo.com/i-am-a-snowmaker?start=2&fbclid=IwAR1UyOj0N79pAsQ8Mt4Yq3d29pkskMua5JW3KSws-00XxaoCSOtp0yqamm0
You ski bumps by skiing from your centre of gravity, which is just below your navel. Keep that at the same "level" and let your legs extend and retract to make it so. The big mistake most people make is to ski from their bottoms, going up and down from that point. That means you move your whole bodyweight every time you go over a bump. That's hard work.
Yeah, a bit of a cheater line hahaa. No problem, I cheat on the hill all the time. Trying to find new easier ways of skiing and turning. Thanks for watching :)
“They are man made bumps moguls they make them with a machine and stuff like that”. Um no they r are made by skiers making turns down the slope and carving the snow into moguls. The machine shown is a groomer to flatten the moguls out and create a smooth skiing surface.
donziperk of course. You know it's quite funny. Nothing is cast in stone. Few things are black and white my daughter a lawyer whole heartedly agrees my neighbor a police officer complely the opposite and then there is religion. Happy Ishtal.
Skiing the zipper line is a style used in competitive freestyle mogul skiing. The method he is demonstrates is more of a general recreational style that ski instructors teach and most skiers use in every day skiing. It emphasizes more speed control. The zipper line is more about going as fast looking exciting to score points with the judges. In most cases when skiing off piste, especially in trees and steep chutes you need to control speed and turn in a certain direction as the terrain and obstacles dictate. This is the style he is recommending.
I really like your channel, it's much more "human" than most of the ski instructing videos. It's almost like being there on the piste :)
Pole plants for timing are crucial. "Punching" through pole plants are important to keep from getting in the backseat (like very early in the video). Standing a little taller and more over the center of the skis will help with terrain absorption and balance. Versatility is key - different lines, turn shapes, speed, and techniques are helpful for varying conditions and terrain. Icy bumps are different from soft ones, which are different from slushy ones or ones covered with fresh, etc. Same goes for steepness, trees, etc. Fall line skiing down the zipper line can be tons of fun, but it's not the only way.
Thanks for watching. Good comment.
How tight should i have my shoe bcs most of time i do them tight and when i lean forward with my shins it feels like the are getting loose and i start bending way to far forward and i have to tighten them really often or is it just my feeling and its fine
@@ClassicTorunless I am doing a specific drill I have my boots extremely tight. Use booster straps (an after market strap for your boots) they are so much better than normal boot straps that they are basically required.
@@tainicon4639 thanks! Will look into them
@@tainicon4639 which one do you use?
I totally agree with your method, but where are the bumps? It looks kind of flat to me! Where I ski the bumps are three feet high!
8:37... Lol.. the slomo and elephant sound were perfect! (laughing before too). Most enjoyable mogul lesson I've ever seen and the best. Kudos! 😎... subbed.
How can you give this a thumbs down! Its entertaining and funny as hell. Real world skiing in bumps or chopped up stuff.
Hahaa, you made my day. Thanks!!!
Love it!! I have a monoski myself, it's incredibly hard (nigh impossible) to do bumps on it. Tip of the hat to that expert pushing it!! 😀
Great to hear. I will tell Rabbe today about your positive feedback. T
Loved it, too. When the monoski got stuck in the mogul and he left without it. That's just the DIN setting. It happened to me too on regular skis. The skis were parked pretty nice and parallel to each other on the front of the mogul, while I ejected and continued without them because the DIN was set too low. He looks great on that thing.
Very interesting approach to moguls. I'd have to try it, although I still try to imagine how that will look like.
My 2 cents on skis. I tried moguls in al lot of different pairs of regulars, and 3 different types of mogul skis. Yes, you can ski them on any skis, but the feeling is soooooo different. Even between soft and stiff dedicated ones. There is nothing like controlling you speed, plunging your tips and absorbing the bump on a softer, dedicated ski, and it's not that great on stiff ones even if it helps you go faster. Soft for dancing and waltzing, stiff for bullying and playing tough. Personally, I prefer a good waltz, like dancing with a nice partner instead of getting in a street fight.
I'm still looking for the one that's the best compromise between a regular ski and a mogul dedicated one. I have my favorite for moguls, but not advertising it here. :)
That's it!!! I want to ski the bums slow and under a full control. No, jerking and fast zipper line for me.
Great video once again. I have always enjoyed your videos! Keep up the great work. Cheers from Hong Kong ;)
5:12 when the park brat kicks in :D love your stuff!
Hahaa.... priceless observation. Thanks a million, made my day :)
very good lesson and tips, thanks!
Nice slope and powder! Mogule is a lot more fun in fluffy powder (as most skiing). I agree with the idea of bashing right into the bumps rather than going around, but I miss the description of ‘absorbing’ the bumps with your knees and keep your upper body levelled. That is really good practice and gives good speed control. And powder makes it so much fun! I envy you guys 😊
Conditions like these are rare. I can pretty much count my days with great conditions with powder on bumps on the fingers of one hand.
Contrary to racing or piste skiing, moguls skiing demands a very “narrow” stance (racing is the quite opposite, since legs MUST be wide apart to allow for a 100% grip and action on each ski independently). Since mogul skiing demands a highly dynamic movement of legs and constant rotation from one turn to the next, a narrow stance prevents from one ski to suddenly “interfere” with the other leg, due to a partial rotation.
Both skiers in the video (with the exception of the mono skier for obvious reasons) kept an unnecessary separation of legs which adds to the risk of a potential trip over.
Moguls can be skied depending on the landing zone we want to take (the zipper line or rut line, but also the inside-wall line or the outer bank line, and more relaxed one).
This guy in his part 3 video shows a really good example of these different lines on how to tackle a mogul.
th-cam.com/video/wTHvtf6lBYw/w-d-xo.html
I like those mogul runs, good for the training.
Yes, good video my man!
Thanks :)
Zipper is not traditional. It’s new school. Zipper is no fun. Must agree with you ski the tops of the mogulwhere the snow is. Love real moguls. Good video.
Thank you. Staying on the good snow really helps. But, isn’t this also skiing over a higher part of the mogul, requiring more absorption?
Yes, exactly. I have some good video material on "absorption" that I have been planning to release as that is such a big part of this kind of mogul skiing. I can basically ski as slowly as want by absorbing the moguls so that gives me full control of my speed. There are basically two options: banging down the zipper line in high speed and impact on the knees and other parts of the body not to talk about crashing and injury or, ski the technical line into the snow piles and over the bumps with a more humane impact on the body at the pace you choose. Cheers, Tom
Nice and thank for all your videos. Are you guys skiing SL skis? I would love to hear your comments if other skis make it easier to ski the bumps than the hard Sl skis.
Not sure what skis would be the best ones for bumps as I only use SL skis when I ski bumps. Its because I only use SL or GS skis. Or sometimes SG skis if we are training for a race. The only bad thing about SL skis in bumps is that I ruin them. I give them a beating Im not sure they are designed to withstand. Also, usually when I ski bumps I also ski on groomers to get there and to get out of there so it is a compromize. Sofar I have never tried skis that I liked better than racing skis. And I think they perform better than averidge skis also in bumps.
@@Triggerboy62 Thank you Tom
The music cracks me up!
Yes, perfect for this video. Glad you like it. Thanks for watching.
Love your approach!
Alternatively, go for the zip line. It's fun and a better workout ofc.
Yes, the zip-line is the pro line. But that is too fast for me. Did you see this video of me in the zip: th-cam.com/video/psHgADqtmz8/w-d-xo.html
"This is the expert" crashes 2 seconds after saying that*
LOL, yes that was indeed one of the highlights of this video, glad you picked up on it :)
monoski is hard to use in general let alone in moguls, lol. Impressive!
Very Beautiful scenery~~
Great video. Now I'm not interested about racing anymore, all I wanna do is to learn how to ski the Zipper Line, coz it's really awesome. Do u have any bump schools there in Finland? Heippa.
@@Triggerboy62 Yep, it was very helpful, thank you for your great reply. Was skiing bumps on Kitzsteinhorn (in Kaprun) this weekend, it's like you hate'em and swear to never ski'em again but they are like magnet, you just can't stop trying ...
@@Triggerboy62 By the way, congrats to Miska Mustonen for 2nd place in moguls europacup. You seem to have good mogul tradition there in FI.
@@Triggerboy62 Cool, reminds me of this: th-cam.com/video/lzQKDslU3Bw/w-d-xo.html, also the first 20-30 seconds
The choice of music was a refreshing change.
It was more easy going not the frenzied synthetic stuff that accompanies many ski vidioes.@@Triggerboy62
thank you great video
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching :)
8:34 That is it. This music... The music when you are not careful enough...
Yes, Elephant DOWN! Cheers, Tom
You are really cool, pretty boy! =))) Nice jump!!!
I think this is actually the more correct way to ski moguls, zipper line is more for racing on a well maintained slope. Especially for starting out. If you try to zipper line moguls the first time you ski a double black you will probably just have a life threatening crash. You have to learn how to control your speed before you start going fast.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing
Entertaining video! I like your laidback delivery! Fun to watch!
Thanks, means a lot to me.
Sir, thé skilift, is yours, or is paying by ministry of sports and culture?
How much cost a medium house in Finland, I wanna move there...
Hahaa.... the ski lift is our ski clubs. Medium size houses are expensive :)
I want to tell you a joke, sir.
Pope of Rome, received gift from u.s. a super car,Cadillac,and said to the driver:
Let's go on the highway for a ride!
The driver goes on the highway and 150, 200, 300 km / h.
The Pope of Rome says:
I want to drive too, come and sit in the back.
And it starts, 150,200, 300 ...
The highway patrol stops them.
Go and see who is driving, says the policeman to his colleague.
He walks, looks out the window, comes back and says:
I don't know who can be in the back, but his driver is: the Pope of Rome ......
So do you, sir.
Who can you be? if you ski with Marcel Hirscher and Ted Lighety at the breakfast?!?
@@franciscszakacs2762 hahahaa.... that is a good one... not bad hanging out with the top WC guys :)
Nice advice, thanks. I will try it your way. Bye
I wish we had powder.. seriously lacking this season so far...
Yeah, same here. Except we lack snow in total this year..... :(
Triggerboy62 have the infamous "my backyard is brown, so not skiing " syndrome... lol
Triggerboy62 snowmaking was basically originally developed here.. the old triple and double air/water mix guns from Hedco and Ratnik industries was invented by one of the original management guys at Bristol.. here is a real cool video with some nice views of our hill and some incite into snowmaking.. check it out and feel free to vote for Bristol!!😁www.saminfo.com/i-am-a-snowmaker?start=2&fbclid=IwAR1UyOj0N79pAsQ8Mt4Yq3d29pkskMua5JW3KSws-00XxaoCSOtp0yqamm0
@@rickparshall exactly 😂
@@rickparshall Really cool video. Didn't know that about snow making. Now I know. Wow.
watching this so i don’t kill my self on moguls again
Hahahaa.... thanks for watching! 👍
fun video!!
I’m in New England. I’ve never not skied on ice.
Wow, once you do, you are going to be very surprised at how easy it is. Thanks for watching.
Hier, icy, schnell, hallo Krankenschwester 😁
Hahaaaa :)
You ski bumps by skiing from your centre of gravity, which is just below your navel. Keep that at the same "level" and let your legs extend and retract to make it so. The big mistake most people make is to ski from their bottoms, going up and down from that point. That means you move your whole bodyweight every time you go over a bump. That's hard work.
That''s the one. Give it a go and enjoy the snow!@@Triggerboy62
This is exactly as I see it as well. Same in powder. Feel the force in your center of gravity.
Is that someones house at the top of the lift or part of the ski hill. ?
@@Triggerboy62 Please tell me more about the legendary Cafe 37 .
for people who do not have time: ski on the side in powder not in bumps :D , lol
Thx
Monoski, hilarious :)
So they do ski in Finland.
Ya man its the way i ski em... learned moguls in trees 🌲 🌳 ⛷ 🌲
thats called the "cheater" line lol ! =) just joking, thanks for the advice!!
Yeah, a bit of a cheater line hahaa. No problem, I cheat on the hill all the time. Trying to find new easier ways of skiing and turning. Thanks for watching :)
@@Triggerboy62 have fun skiing!!! =)
I love zipperlines under the lift.. and woodlines under the lift!! I just like to show off!!😁
Mary Jane Colorado
“They are man made bumps moguls they make them with a machine and stuff like that”. Um no they r are made by skiers making turns down the slope and carving the snow into moguls. The machine shown is a groomer to flatten the moguls out and create a smooth skiing surface.
donziperk I've spent a certain amount of time hand groming mogul courses it's an honest days work
A freestyle course is always man made but where do u find that on most mountains 99.5 percent of the time u r on moguls made by the action of skiing.
donziperk of course. You know it's quite funny. Nothing is cast in stone. Few things are black and white my daughter a lawyer whole heartedly agrees my neighbor a police officer complely the opposite and then there is religion. Happy Ishtal.
Come Whistler I’ll show u some pretty impressive moguls.
6:11 Too aft, isn't it ?
flexing means flexing in the ankle too.@@Triggerboy62
Step one: be a pro.
A racer teaching bumps lol
@@Triggerboy62 😂
google "bumps for boomers"
The orginal bumps were real 😉
)))
HaHa
Bof....
??? Ça veut dire quoi ?
Base Of Support.... your skis.