The advice to move the feet forward seems "unnecessary" given how weight & gravity works on skis. When gravity via the hill pushes against the boots/heels, it naturally pushes the feet forward (against your weight stacked on top), and if anything an efficient skier is modulating how much they resist (ie push back) against that force. You can see in action very clearly in Marcel Hirscher's free skiing, where he seems backseat, but not at the moment before the fall-line, where he shoves his feet back strongly and then resists at an angle against hill pushing him forward, to create the redirection he needs.
2nd viewing - THIS VIDEO information, worth it's weight in GOLD...Something definitely to be worked on , 'Pulling' feet forward during 2nd half of the turn on a steeper slope for shorts turns. It's what i've been missing for years and years...some people say i ski awesome as well! If i get this right, maybe i'll be even more awesome! haha. Beautifully explained Tom. I've paid for privates lessons specifically on this subject ( control in steeps ) before and never EVER had it so well explained as i've just heard. Tom's an excellant teacher. Just want to add, last year i've been working on 'feeling the heel' whilst still some( but varying) tongue pressure all the way through turns ( so never loosing the 'heel' ) - for sure i felt more POWERFUL / balanced AND controlled. Thanks Tom and Carv. The 'Pulling forward' action ( quads / calves and core) applies a moment ( turning force ) to the ski - you can see the ski tails momentarily bend ( adding load and pressure to ski tails, gripping the snow ), that ski bend ( spring) then quickly unloads and slightly impels ( Tom said ' Pop' ) the skier forward - unlike the 'Pushing Forward' which doesn't really bend the ski at all. This is more important than it initially seems...it's a GOLD Tip everyone! Edit: 'Pulling' requires ankle dorsiflexion ( turning foot upwards ) , toes go up automatically as well. Lower adominals must contract to do this.
This is the best ski instruction I’ve ever received. Was able to try this out on the slopes yesterday, and it completely leveled up my skiing. This is what I was missing for years
Thank you. This was very enlightening. I tried it yesterday and it worked. Been struggling with upper body rotation for years and I think excessive tail wash was the cause. This is my fiftieth season....it’s never too late!
Thanks for this! I think one issue is that the idea of adding downward force to the tail of the skis as you transition to the exit is counter-intuitive to most people. BUT we know via physics, that increased pressure will cause more grip (if the ski is appropriately using the edge). It's the same issue with why drivers spin a car in the rain when in a turn and experiencing an issue: the human tendency is to lift off the accelerator or apply brake. This decelerates the car putting more force on the front tires and causing them to grip more, while the rear tires have less downforce and therefore grip less. Then the tail of the car starts to lose grip and the car initiates a spin. Will try adding force to the rear via pulling up next time I'm out there. Great lesson. Thank you.
That was totally me at 6:15 with the tails washing out with the weight forward all the time. Too many instructors say "get to the front of the boot" and "lean forward." While that advice was fine on greens and blues, once I hit steeper slopes, I didn't feel nearly as in control. This totally helped to modulate that front and back pressure and get those tails to grip. Why didn't any other instructor say this? It totally makes sense once explained. Thanks!!!!
Same - I was having difficulties finishing out turns, sputtering out a huge cloud of powder rather than a nice neat spray. Hoping this helps me get a bit cleaner!
I love you’re toppling concept. It describes the sensation very well. I used to call it falling into the turn, but it’s the same idea. Agree it sounds counterintuitive but it feels great when you get it. My tip has to do with your toes and ankles. People would be surprised that your toes and ankles are important to early initiation. In the beginning of the season I do easy flat runs and turning literally just by concentrating on lifting say my right daddy toe and pushing on ball of my left foot and letting my ankles and knees follow for a right turn and do the opposite for left turn. It helps me concentrate early initiation and gets my ankles and knees engaged. You’d be amazed that you can turn that way on flat terrain.
That first tip about adjusting weight on the turn is exactly what I needed! I was always falling on black diamonds because I gained too much speed while turning with a forward lean. Thank you!!
An excellent video. You understanding of the mechanics of carving is on a high level! Much better than usual! However there are other very important elements you do not talk about. One is the boot-tongue pressure. Moving your COM backwards and forwards over the skis is very well explained by you. But the boot-tongue pressure is even more important. Moving your COM forwards to the direction of the ski-tips creates a boot tongue pressure, increasing the your ankle flexion, but when your COM moves backwards, just before the edge change you need to press your toes and ankles upwards (dorsal flexion of the ankle). If you do not use a forceful dorsal flex of your ankles at this point, you will feel much less safe and you can even lose balance, by pushing your skis ahead of your COM. This CARV sensor does not sense the boot-tongue pressures!
Hi Janos - i understand your observation - Tom demonstrated and talked about ' Pulling' and not 'Pushing' and the difference between them. By 'Pulling' i believe that will automatically dorsal flex ankles and that's almost impossible to do without curling upwards the toes. Thanks for noting that it needs to be forceful - that's got me even more thinking about it...
I’ve very keen to try this technique out, next month on the slopes. I’ve struggled for years with wash out from leaning too far forward , this is the first ski clip I’ve seen addressing fore and aft balance. Thanks to the instructor.
I'm a double diamond skier that always wants to improve. I find that while I ski with ease, I'm nowhere near perfect and this video was a fantastic guide to improving it. Will look into purchasing Carv.
This is awesome to hear! Tom really is one of the best when it comes to this topic so we hope you see a difference in your skiing once you manage to put these tips into practice ⛷
Seen countless videos on doing short turns and continued to struggle. But your method is the one that clicked. Purposefully pulling the feet thru on each turn was the missing ingredient. 🙏💯
Thank you! I always felt like the tails of my skis were skidding out at the end of turns and could never figure out why I had no grip. This has answered that for me! I'm off to the slopes in 2 days so I'll put this drill into practice!
Update - tested this out along some gentle blue runs and it definitely feels better. I can push more pressure comfortably through my feet now too! (Also the feeling of using aft foot pressure has been a real help when dealing with deep powder that we've had the last 2 days!)
This is absolutely fantastic. Best explanations of for fore-aft pressure I've ever heard, and I say that as somebody with a world-class coach who is wonderful at explaining things. Well done!!
I'd like to suggest that forward balance is important. Aft balance is recovery, when you get stuck on your heals or caught on an uphill edge. There should only be a motivation to stay on the front of your foot. Even when walking any sense of being on your heels is immediately countered by the next foot toes touching the ground in front of you.
This is the first video I've watched which clearly demonstrates the back & forth movement of balance on the turn. I learned something today. Excellent 👍😊
Thanks a lot. I've always had problems with washing out towards the end of my turns, now I know why (pushing, not pulling ;) ). Very well explained and illustrated! Have a great winter season and all the best!
Thanks for the concise information, and this explains why I took a nasty fall on a very, very steep slope in Vail last week. It seems counter-intuitive to put weight on the tails of your skis, but in this case it makes sense. I will give this a go next week.
Thanks again Tom yes we all have heard keep leaning forward throughout the turn. Great explanation and demo of where your COM needs to be throughout the turn so thanks for the video. Keep them coming.
2:30 pm. Why didn’t anyone highlight this earlier in my ski journey. This is an outstanding lesson and can’t wait to get back in snow to work at this. Thank you !!!!
This video really helps me a lot in slope turning. You are more than expert, you are superb expert combine genius. Pressure in heel or tail of ski during the end of turn nie become my motto!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback Craig! Tom did an awesome job breaking this lesson down into bite-sized pieces. That's one of our goals! To get people looking forward to skiing groomers haha 😅
We really appreciate this feedback, it keeps us more motivated than ever to keep bring you new ski lessons 👍 Tom did an amazing job with this lesson so I'm sure he'll be stoked to read your comment!
I just watched your video on skiing steeper slopes and I'm blown away by how helpful it was! Your tips on maintaining better balance were spot on and will definitely help me feel more confident on the mountain. Thank you for sharing your expertise with us!
@@Bigpictureskiing I was out yesterday on SLs and hard but edgeable snow. The beginning of the move (that pulling motion) has something of the flavor of a dolphin turn; Deb Armstrong talks about "slicing" the outside ski; J. F. Beaulieu mentions pressure moving from the ball of the foot toward the heel in the belly of the turn, and here is his video that seems to discuss similar ideas: th-cam.com/video/I_XuGWW6vcQ/w-d-xo.html All these are familiar to me, but your video had me concentrating a bit more on sensations. I don't lose my tails as a rule, but the new sensation was a more evident digging in - taken to the point at which my tips were coming off the snow. Interesting. It'll take some time to refine that move, but I see a subtle and useful improvement.
Over turning is my problem for sure, if I correct too much I lose my moment. Will try the pull / shift weight back technique I get on the slopes again. Thanks!
Fantastic visual at 4:40 explains the whole process. I never realised this, seems so obvious. Strange that we have always been told to keep forward when it doesn't work. Also loved the explanation of how speed changes during the turn above and below the fall line.
Nobody has time to move forward and backward. World Cup understands this. When you are on your heels you loose the tipping of a ski. When you are on your heels the next short period of time is spent getting your off your heels. When you are on your heels you have lost control of the ski, no other muscles can fix this control problem until you get back over your skis. Stay on the front of your foot and tip the ski it's the best control, the least fighting the quickest and smoothest way down the hill.
Just what I needed to sort through. This is the best video of fore and aft balance through a turn I have seen. I really appreciate the depth of detail in the video and the explanations you gave. I really liked the graph you overlaid on your turns as it helped me see how you balance point changed. Awesome job. Tom you are a very good explainer!
Thanks Roland. Tim the cameraman is also great at editing and knowing where to stand to get the shot. It was a pleasure working with him. Thanks for the feedback
That was great! I was always so stuck on staying forward because that is what I was taught. But the push-pull makes sense to stay over the different areas of your base of support allowing for better control.
great skiing Tom! Fore aft stuff is great. You have great upper/lower body separation which is an area you really should touch on for steeper terrain because without it, your tails will wash out even with the fore/aft pressure.
That is the best explanation I have ever heard! I know to push self-trained as a open hobby racer. But I never knew how bad forward pressure on the shovels is to prevent a tighter 2nd part of the turn if do too little. It makes so much sense, pushing down with the tailbite to steer 'up' the slope again, instead of pressing the nose downhill. Ski Resorts are closed this year, maybe next year! =) I subscribed to remember until then!
A good start - you encapsulated my skiing plateau. Then delivered an answer that totally makes sense. I can feel it. I somehow lacked the confidence/ initiative to actively do it with all my turns - maybe I was doing it playfully on gentle slopes. I can see that rhythm helps. Im visualising swooping my feet fore and aft through the curve as it progresses. I'll try it this weekend. Thanks!
Hello from Norway, Last week I haired an instructor to teach me how to do short turns, he never saw the reason why my ski tail always was spitting , poor guy kept saying "why are you braking?" I'll practice this next week, I think better to create mental model of the movements first then practice. many thanks Tom it was really eye opener.
That is the difference between the instructor who only sees the result and cannot understand the cause. I have met many of those. It happened many -many years ago to me. "Do not push/skid your tails!" - "I do not" - "Why are you arguing with your trainers?".... Until a much younger -in- years but more experienced NZ coach said, "Back off - stay more centered!" That made sense and helped me (in the bumps) and helps in those short-radius turns! (Sorry, I do not understand why there is that crossing line in the text)
@@Bigpictureskiing Hi Tom, Your advice was that much impressive that I subscribed to your website. Now I am enjoying all the videos that you have perfetionaly created. Well done! Any plan come to Norway 🇳🇴?
That was brilliant! Crystal clear explanations and tech proof. I now realise that I need to focus on the end of the turn more - and now I know how. This is usually neglected in run of the mill ski lessons. Thanks for posting - I have my homework. Cheers!
Great to hear. It’s why i chose the topic its not often covered by many people as people are afraid of talking about moving aft on the skis. Always just forward forward forward.
Perfect advice! Great!!! We all probably heard of those pressure phases, of skiing tip to tail, the difference in your explanation is this little move of the lower legs in the 2nd half of the turn. This move brings you to the next level. One other question: around min 9 you show a combined analysis of video and pressure data. How is this done? Did i miss new features? To load up video footage into the app to really see pressures during the turn would be next level as well.
It’s in the details and going further into how that does make the difference be you’re right. The feature you saw is an under the hood feature that is still in development I believe. Carv will be able to tell you more on that but this feature is AMAZING!
Excellent explanation , demonstration and simple easy to follow drills to make this happen. Would love to see one one transitioning from short to medium and then GS turns on one run - how and when to apply the subtle changes thought the changing arcs sand loads seamlessly. Maybe there is one ? Ralph
Great demo . . . well shaped turn vs windshield wiper turns . . . excellent ! If well executed, the skier can definitely feel the difference. A properly tuned ski is paramount to aid in execution at any level Thanks for sharing !
This is great. I've been working on this for a while. I believe George Joubert ( many many years ago in "Teach Yourself to Ski) called this avalemont. But even though I've long know about this I never quite mastered it -- I found myself getting "locked up" -- I had good motion going into a turn but then couldn't release my skis. I'm old, but I race in two leagues and my times have come down this years. I've watched a lot of your footage, and Deb Armstrong's too. I am faster today than I've ever been in my life. When I taught I always told students that the better you ski -- the more fun it is. That never stops. Thanks
Hi Tom, Excellent video, and instruction. I am a tail slider from way back and this will help. I have a friend who years ago was skiing down with her top buckles open do to leg pain. She took a spill and unfortunately turned her leg into corn flakes. So maybe there is a loss of binding function with the slop of loose boots. Have a great season
Thanks for watching Julie, Glad to hear that you think these tips will help stop those tails sliding! Feel free to update us about your progress once you try out Tom's tips 👌
Hello Tom , This is an amazing video and I now understand for the first time how good skiers go down steep runs in such great control. They kind of looked like the heel is skiding but I know thats not the case and you explained it so clearly the movement that is needed to bring the pressure to the back of the skis in a functional manner. Thank you so much !
2:29 omg this is *exactly* what I’ve been struggling with this whole week! Too bad I’ll have to wait until the next season to put your tips into practice 😭
Yes i wish I’d done a better job on that part but its hard when youre trying to make something that people wont just press “next” on. But the pull motion is me referring to pulling the feet forward through the turn to change pressure to the heel and tail of the ski vs pushing feet forward. You need to try it to realise the difference. Trust me its very different. One will put you back seat where as the pull the feet forward uses different muscles and creates tension that snaps you into being forward for the next turn better
Great info been struggling with the blacks this season and came to good old youtube for tips to why its definitely tail washing which i don't notice as much doing blues but getting into steeper terrain specially when icy i noticed it alot
Really good stuff. Interestingly, I was working on carving with my ski coach and as she encouraged me to keep the edge platform right through the turn, I had felt that I was somewhat in the back seat at that point. She reassured me I was doing fine and I think this explains that I had intuitively been doing the right thing with fore/aft balance.
Tom, I like your skiing but after 50 yrs of teaching flying,skiing, snowboarding, and numerous other sports, I’ve realized that where one looks and how one looks (scan) is a primary skill that all mental and physical actions build from. Like proper vision, disciplined proactive arm/handwork operate in tandem with foot/legwork. See the French ski federation. I tell my upper level students that their eyes and hands lead and the legs follow. The footpad pressure sensors are interesting but would work better with an additional sensor in the boot tongue measuring shin pressure. Again, where PSIA falls short is in making the emphasis nearly entirely on what happens from the hips down and just holding the arms still. Ones eyes and hands play a vital role in telling the legs what to do. Don’t believe it? Close your eyes and let your arms just hang on your next run....Keep up the good work, Tom. Jan Walør, Winter Park ski/ride school
Thank you! I was trying to articulate what was missing from the carv system and you nailed it. I'm sure it's good, but it's a novelty, not really a tool. And probably not worth 400 dollars
This is flipping brilliant! This committed professional has found a creative tool/exercise/theme to make a nuanced and challenging physiological skiing concept understandable, Translated: Thank you sir, for your ski spirit. I have learned valuable things from your generosity. For those who are truly devoted to authentic competence at this sport, this is a must watch. IMHO, Multiple times...
Thank you, we're extremely proud of this one because we could give multiple objective ways to interrogate an important concept and help people improve.
Amazing communication skills and ability to identify the things that are most important. This video combined with the early edge angles video, and the how to ski difficult terrain video took me from being an intermediate to advanced level skier!
Just discovered your channel, Thank you so much for this quality video & explanations ! Can’t wait to try them out. I always struggled to find my balance while carving, obviously because I keep my body forward. This will definitely help to improbe ! Thanks again
No problems at all! We’re always glad to help and especially happy to hear about your improvements. Stay posted as we have lots more content on the way this season ⛷
Powerful explanation! Now I have the valid mental model of my turn at hand to know what I have to fokus on, when intuitiv skiing fails!:-) I‘m stoked...thanks!
thanks a lot for this video. finally, i get what to do in order for the skiing to flow.. i recognized that all the common mistakes you mentioned, i kindof did
for my understanding, at the second half of the turnb push the skis toward a little bit , it makes your weight press more on the tail inorder to achieve tail bite then pull your skis back underneath your hips, on another word pull your weight back to forward skis inorder to transition, then at the first half of turn, make your weight on your front skis.
Great stuff Tom. Just joined your site and tried some of the techniques. It makes a huge difference, my 160 racetigers never felt and gripped so good. Sometimes find myself in the backseat, but with more practice hopefully this will improve. Unfortunately our ski hill shut down today. If you ever get to Canada, I would love to take lessons from you.
Hi Raymond. Stoked you found the extra info on the site helpful. I do put most of my big ideas and progressions there. Im really keeping my fingers crossed to be able to travel again next winter and come back to canada. Enjoy the rest of your season.
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Had loads of lessons, this is first time it's made sense.
Excellently explained! Cheers!
The advice to move the feet forward seems "unnecessary" given how weight & gravity works on skis. When gravity via the hill pushes against the boots/heels, it naturally pushes the feet forward (against your weight stacked on top), and if anything an efficient skier is modulating how much they resist (ie push back) against that force. You can see in action very clearly in Marcel Hirscher's free skiing, where he seems backseat, but not at the moment before the fall-line, where he shoves his feet back strongly and then resists at an angle against hill pushing him forward, to create the redirection he needs.
2nd viewing - THIS VIDEO information, worth it's weight in GOLD...Something definitely to be worked on , 'Pulling' feet forward during 2nd half of the turn on a steeper slope for shorts turns. It's what i've been missing for years and years...some people say i ski awesome as well! If i get this right, maybe i'll be even more awesome! haha. Beautifully explained Tom. I've paid for privates lessons specifically on this subject ( control in steeps ) before and never EVER had it so well explained as i've just heard. Tom's an excellant teacher. Just want to add, last year i've been working on 'feeling the heel' whilst still some( but varying) tongue pressure all the way through turns ( so never loosing the 'heel' ) - for sure i felt more POWERFUL / balanced AND controlled. Thanks Tom and Carv.
The 'Pulling forward' action ( quads / calves and core) applies a moment ( turning force ) to the ski - you can see the ski tails momentarily bend ( adding load and pressure to ski tails, gripping the snow ), that ski bend ( spring) then quickly unloads and slightly impels ( Tom said ' Pop' ) the skier forward - unlike the 'Pushing Forward' which doesn't really bend the ski at all. This is more important than it initially seems...it's a GOLD Tip everyone! Edit: 'Pulling' requires ankle dorsiflexion ( turning foot upwards ) , toes go up automatically as well. Lower adominals must contract to do this.
This is the best ski instruction I’ve ever received. Was able to try this out on the slopes yesterday, and it completely leveled up my skiing. This is what I was missing for years
Thank you. This was very enlightening. I tried it yesterday and it worked. Been struggling with upper body rotation for years and I think excessive tail wash was the cause. This is my fiftieth season....it’s never too late!
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Thanks for this! I think one issue is that the idea of adding downward force to the tail of the skis as you transition to the exit is counter-intuitive to most people. BUT we know via physics, that increased pressure will cause more grip (if the ski is appropriately using the edge). It's the same issue with why drivers spin a car in the rain when in a turn and experiencing an issue: the human tendency is to lift off the accelerator or apply brake. This decelerates the car putting more force on the front tires and causing them to grip more, while the rear tires have less downforce and therefore grip less. Then the tail of the car starts to lose grip and the car initiates a spin. Will try adding force to the rear via pulling up next time I'm out there. Great lesson. Thank you.
That was totally me at 6:15 with the tails washing out with the weight forward all the time. Too many instructors say "get to the front of the boot" and "lean forward." While that advice was fine on greens and blues, once I hit steeper slopes, I didn't feel nearly as in control. This totally helped to modulate that front and back pressure and get those tails to grip. Why didn't any other instructor say this? It totally makes sense once explained. Thanks!!!!
Same - I was having difficulties finishing out turns, sputtering out a huge cloud of powder rather than a nice neat spray. Hoping this helps me get a bit cleaner!
I love you’re toppling concept. It describes the sensation very well. I used to call it falling into the turn, but it’s the same idea. Agree it sounds counterintuitive but it feels great when you get it. My tip has to do with your toes and ankles. People would be surprised that your toes and ankles are important to early initiation. In the beginning of the season I do easy flat runs and turning literally just by concentrating on lifting say my right daddy toe and pushing on ball of my left foot and letting my ankles and knees follow for a right turn and do the opposite for left turn. It helps me concentrate early initiation and gets my ankles and knees engaged. You’d be amazed that you can turn that way on flat terrain.
Hi Nathaniel, glad you liked the video!
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That first tip about adjusting weight on the turn is exactly what I needed! I was always falling on black diamonds because I gained too much speed while turning with a forward lean. Thank you!!
I find this is a common error many skiers do not know how to correct. Hopefully this goes some way to making your skiing more enjoyable on the steeps
Lifelong east coast skier and first time instructor this year - this video was great! Thanks so much!
An excellent video. You understanding of the mechanics of carving is on a high level! Much better than usual!
However there are other very important elements you do not talk about. One is the boot-tongue pressure. Moving your COM backwards and forwards over the skis is very well explained by you. But the boot-tongue pressure is even more important. Moving your COM forwards to the direction of the ski-tips creates a boot tongue pressure, increasing the your ankle flexion, but when your COM moves backwards, just before the edge change you need to press your toes and ankles upwards (dorsal flexion of the ankle). If you do not use a forceful dorsal flex of your ankles at this point, you will feel much less safe and you can even lose balance, by pushing your skis ahead of your COM.
This CARV sensor does not sense the boot-tongue pressures!
Hi Janos - i understand your observation - Tom demonstrated and talked about ' Pulling' and not 'Pushing' and the difference between them. By 'Pulling' i believe that will automatically dorsal flex ankles and that's almost impossible to do without curling upwards the toes. Thanks for noting that it needs to be forceful - that's got me even more thinking about it...
I’ve very keen to try this technique out, next month on the slopes. I’ve struggled for years with wash out from leaning too far forward , this is the first ski clip I’ve seen addressing fore and aft balance. Thanks to the instructor.
I'm a double diamond skier that always wants to improve. I find that while I ski with ease, I'm nowhere near perfect and this video was a fantastic guide to improving it. Will look into purchasing Carv.
So glad it was helpful. Let us know if you've got any questions
I'm a beginner and have been watching a lot of videos and THIS is the best explanation.
This is awesome to hear!
Tom really is one of the best when it comes to this topic so we hope you see a difference in your skiing once you manage to put these tips into practice ⛷
Seen countless videos on doing short turns and continued to struggle. But your method is the one that clicked. Purposefully pulling the feet thru on each turn was the missing ingredient. 🙏💯
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Let us know how you go putting these tips into practice 👍
Thank you! I always felt like the tails of my skis were skidding out at the end of turns and could never figure out why I had no grip. This has answered that for me!
I'm off to the slopes in 2 days so I'll put this drill into practice!
Update - tested this out along some gentle blue runs and it definitely feels better. I can push more pressure comfortably through my feet now too! (Also the feeling of using aft foot pressure has been a real help when dealing with deep powder that we've had the last 2 days!)
Probably one of the best explanations, really understandable
Thanks Esben this is great to hear
This is absolutely fantastic. Best explanations of for fore-aft pressure I've ever heard, and I say that as somebody with a world-class coach who is wonderful at explaining things. Well done!!
Pretty stoked to hear this thanks very much.
I'd like to suggest that forward balance is important. Aft balance is recovery, when you get stuck on your heals or caught on an uphill edge. There should only be a motivation to stay on the front of your foot. Even when walking any sense of being on your heels is immediately countered by the next foot toes touching the ground in front of you.
The pushing and pulling is the single most intelligent bit of advice I have yet to see. Look forward to testing it out in a few weeks.
Thanks! Good luck out there
This is the first video I've watched which clearly demonstrates the back & forth movement of balance on the turn. I learned something today. Excellent 👍😊
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Thanks a lot. I've always had problems with washing out towards the end of my turns, now I know why (pushing, not pulling ;) ). Very well explained and illustrated! Have a great winter season and all the best!
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Thanks for the concise information, and this explains why I took a nasty fall on a very, very steep slope in Vail last week. It seems counter-intuitive to put weight on the tails of your skis, but in this case it makes sense. I will give this a go next week.
Glad it was helpful Robert!
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Thanks again Tom yes we all have heard keep leaning forward throughout the turn. Great explanation and demo of where your COM needs to be throughout the turn so thanks for the video. Keep them coming.
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2:30 pm. Why didn’t anyone highlight this earlier in my ski journey. This is an outstanding lesson and can’t wait to get back in snow to work at this. Thank you !!!!
This video really helps me a lot in slope turning. You are more than expert, you are superb expert combine genius. Pressure in heel or tail of ski during the end of turn nie become my motto!
one of the best short turn tutorial videos ever watched
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Tom really nailed this one 👌
One of the best ski videos I've seen! I really liked how you broke the turn down into small segments. I'm almost looking forward to skiing a groomer.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback Craig!
Tom did an awesome job breaking this lesson down into bite-sized pieces.
That's one of our goals! To get people looking forward to skiing groomers haha 😅
Excellent presentation of fore aft balance - when, how and why we pull our feet back and forward when performing short radius turns!
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Best detailed explanation I have ever seen. Thanks for the great advice!
We really appreciate this feedback, it keeps us more motivated than ever to keep bring you new ski lessons 👍
Tom did an amazing job with this lesson so I'm sure he'll be stoked to read your comment!
Great video. As a matter fact all the carv videos have been very, very, helpful. Tom and Kaylin are both very articulate, clear and likable.
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I just watched your video on skiing steeper slopes and I'm blown away by how helpful it was! Your tips on maintaining better balance were spot on and will definitely help me feel more confident on the mountain. Thank you for sharing your expertise with us!
Thanks Phillip!
Brilliant, Tom. You nail the one vital ingredient in successful short turns. I'll be focused on developing that for the rest of the season.
Thanks for the feedback Read!
How’s it going now a week in? Any new feelings on snow?
@@Bigpictureskiing I was out yesterday on SLs and hard but edgeable snow. The beginning of the move (that pulling motion) has something of the flavor of a dolphin turn; Deb Armstrong talks about "slicing" the outside ski; J. F. Beaulieu mentions pressure moving from the ball of the foot toward the heel in the belly of the turn, and here is his video that seems to discuss similar ideas: th-cam.com/video/I_XuGWW6vcQ/w-d-xo.html
All these are familiar to me, but your video had me concentrating a bit more on sensations. I don't lose my tails as a rule, but the new sensation was a more evident digging in - taken to the point at which my tips were coming off the snow. Interesting. It'll take some time to refine that move, but I see a subtle and useful improvement.
Over turning is my problem for sure, if I correct too much I lose my moment. Will try the pull / shift weight back technique I get on the slopes again. Thanks!
Fantastic visual at 4:40 explains the whole process. I never realised this, seems so obvious. Strange that we have always been told to keep forward when it doesn't work. Also loved the explanation of how speed changes during the turn above and below the fall line.
Nobody has time to move forward and backward. World Cup understands this. When you are on your heels you loose the tipping of a ski. When you are on your heels the next short period of time is spent getting your off your heels. When you are on your heels you have lost control of the ski, no other muscles can fix this control problem until you get back over your skis. Stay on the front of your foot and tip the ski it's the best control, the least fighting the quickest and smoothest way down the hill.
Just what I needed to sort through. This is the best video of fore and aft balance through a turn I have seen. I really appreciate the depth of detail in the video and the explanations you gave. I really liked the graph you overlaid on your turns as it helped me see how you balance point changed. Awesome job. Tom you are a very good explainer!
Thanks Roland. Tim the cameraman is also great at editing and knowing where to stand to get the shot. It was a pleasure working with him. Thanks for the feedback
That was great! I was always so stuck on staying forward because that is what I was taught. But the push-pull makes sense to stay over the different areas of your base of support allowing for better control.
Learned a lot from this video. I will go back and watch it again and again. Thank you
One of the bests videos I saw.Tom is a Master
Cheers for that. I spend a lot of time thinking about how to explain how to change your skiing
Agree !
Nice reminder of the difference between static and dynamic balance.
Excellent explanation and corrective actions to keep the tails from sliding out and simply doing repetitive “hockey stops” on steep and icy slopes. 🙏🏽
Brilliantly explained with very good graphics to back up the teaching. Very impressed, thankyou.
Glad it was helpful John!
All the best putting these tips into practice 👍
great skiing Tom! Fore aft stuff is great.
You have great upper/lower body separation which is an area you really should touch on for steeper terrain because without it, your tails will wash out even with the fore/aft pressure.
That is the best explanation I have ever heard! I know to push self-trained as a open hobby racer. But I never knew how bad forward pressure on the shovels is to prevent a tighter 2nd part of the turn if do too little. It makes so much sense, pushing down with the tailbite to steer 'up' the slope again, instead of pressing the nose downhill. Ski Resorts are closed this year, maybe next year! =) I subscribed to remember until then!
Hey, I have never seriously raced, but I thought it was a common racing technique - to even pressure the tail in the end of the turn...
Absolutely wicked stuff Tom....my question is should we ultimately be feeling this foot pressure everywhere,always
Amazing video. Very helpful and well-illustrated. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
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A good start - you encapsulated my skiing plateau. Then delivered an answer that totally makes sense. I can feel it. I somehow lacked the confidence/ initiative to actively do it with all my turns - maybe I was doing it playfully on gentle slopes. I can see that rhythm helps. Im visualising swooping my feet fore and aft through the curve as it progresses. I'll try it this weekend. Thanks!
Hello from Norway, Last week I haired an instructor to teach me how to do short turns, he never saw the reason why my ski tail always was spitting , poor guy kept saying "why are you braking?"
I'll practice this next week, I think better to create mental model of the movements first then practice.
many thanks Tom it was really eye opener.
That is the difference between the instructor who only sees the result and cannot understand the cause. I have met many of those. It happened many -many years ago to me. "Do not push/skid your tails!" - "I do not" - "Why are you arguing with your trainers?".... Until a much younger -in- years but more experienced NZ coach said, "Back off - stay more centered!" That made sense and helped me (in the bumps) and helps in those short-radius turns!
(Sorry, I do not understand why there is that crossing line in the text)
Hey you’re very welcome I hope it does help you out like it has many others
@@Bigpictureskiing Hi Tom,
Your advice was that much impressive that I subscribed to your website.
Now I am enjoying all the videos that you have perfetionaly created. Well done!
Any plan come to Norway 🇳🇴?
Pulling~~꼭 하나 기억할 것. 미는 게 아니라, 치고 나간다는 느낌. Moving Forward. 치고 나간다. 이게 젤 중요한 핵심.
That was brilliant! Crystal clear explanations and tech proof. I now realise that I need to focus on the end of the turn more - and now I know how. This is usually neglected in run of the mill ski lessons. Thanks for posting - I have my homework. Cheers!
Great to hear. It’s why i chose the topic its not often covered by many people as people are afraid of talking about moving aft on the skis. Always just forward forward forward.
Excellent tutorial. Just what I need. Thank you.
awesome! the slope getting subjectively more and then less steep and the accompanying weight transfer - this was a revelation!
Thanks for the feedback Viktor!
All the best putting this into practice next time you find the perfect slope to test this out on ⛷
Amazing video, amazing content, thanks!
This must be the most helpful ski tut I've ever recieved. Full of insights!
Thanks!
Perfect advice! Great!!! We all probably heard of those pressure phases, of skiing tip to tail, the difference in your explanation is this little move of the lower legs in the 2nd half of the turn. This move brings you to the next level.
One other question: around min 9 you show a combined analysis of video and pressure data. How is this done? Did i miss new features? To load up video footage into the app to really see pressures during the turn would be next level as well.
It’s in the details and going further into how that does make the difference be you’re right.
The feature you saw is an under the hood feature that is still in development I believe. Carv will be able to tell you more on that but this feature is AMAZING!
I found this attention to tail weighting both new and very useful to understand speed control and tightened turns. Thank you very much.
Excellent explanation , demonstration and simple easy to follow drills to make this happen. Would love to see one one transitioning from short to medium and then GS turns on one run - how and when to apply the subtle changes thought the changing arcs sand loads seamlessly. Maybe there is one ? Ralph
Of all the coaches online, you are simply the best.
Thanks 🙏
Great demo . . . well shaped turn vs windshield wiper turns . . . excellent !
If well executed, the skier can definitely feel the difference.
A properly tuned ski is paramount to aid in execution at any level
Thanks for sharing !
Glad you enjoyed it Arden!
Great explanation on foot pressure. Balls of feet to heel. 👍
Glad you liked it Otis!
All the best putting these tips into practice 👍
This is great. I've been working on this for a while. I believe George Joubert ( many many years ago in "Teach Yourself to Ski) called this avalemont. But even though I've long know about this I never quite mastered it -- I found myself getting "locked up" -- I had good motion going into a turn but then couldn't release my skis. I'm old, but I race in two leagues and my times have come down this years. I've watched a lot of your footage, and Deb Armstrong's too. I am faster today than I've ever been in my life. When I taught I always told students that the better you ski -- the more fun it is. That never stops. Thanks
Charles how wonderful. Still improving no matter what your age! Keep it up
Well done. I’m looking forward to seeing what it feels like. Thanks
Thanks for watching Dave,
Don't hesitate to share your progress once you test out the tips. We'd love to hear about it 👍
Hi Tom, Excellent video, and instruction. I am a tail slider from way back and this will help. I have a friend who years ago was skiing down with her top buckles open do to leg pain. She took a spill and unfortunately turned her leg into corn flakes. So maybe there is a loss of binding function with the slop of loose boots. Have a great season
Thanks for watching Julie,
Glad to hear that you think these tips will help stop those tails sliding!
Feel free to update us about your progress once you try out Tom's tips 👌
That explains exactly what is happening to me. Tremendously helpful! Thank you!
Hello Tom , This is an amazing video and I now understand for the first time how good skiers go down steep runs in such great control. They kind of looked like the heel is skiding but I know thats not the case and you explained it so clearly the movement that is needed to bring the pressure to the back of the skis in a functional manner. Thank you so much !
Glad you enjoyed it
very well explained, one of my (many) flaws and now I know better what to do....thanks!!
advanced knowledge for intermediate-skilled skiers, thanx a lot.
Thanks for sharing your expertise. Much appreciated.
Very impressive explanation... you nailed it!
Thanks mate
Now I finally understand what the fore/aft movement is about. Great video! Not yet in my fiftieth season, but hope to get there!
Stroking the ski is sometimes used to describe fore/aft balance. Informative video; thanks !
I kept watching this video over and over again. just found my one of problems. The tip 2 helps me the most. Heaps thanks ❤!
Thanks for the comment. I like tip 2 as well and am often focused on it.
Actually I was thinking about active steering instead pulling back and working on that, it is nice to see it is mentioned here, solved some puzzles.
Fantastic explanation, very straight forward and plausible, thanks, great job!
Thanks for watching Sándor!
We appreciate the feedback and hope that you find these tips useful next time you are out skiing 🎿
one of the best training videos. Thank you
We very much appreciate this feedback!
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2:29 omg this is *exactly* what I’ve been struggling with this whole week! Too bad I’ll have to wait until the next season to put your tips into practice 😭
Great explanation. Just the pull and push I didn't understand fully. Gonna rewatch.
Yes i wish I’d done a better job on that part but its hard when youre trying to make something that people wont just press “next” on. But the pull motion is me referring to pulling the feet forward through the turn to change pressure to the heel and tail of the ski vs pushing feet forward. You need to try it to realise the difference. Trust me its very different. One will put you back seat where as the pull the feet forward uses different muscles and creates tension that snaps you into being forward for the next turn better
Great video, very helpful, just started working on it this week at my local mountain and already see a difference!
Way to go chris. Feeling and seeing a difference in that short a timeframe is what I'm all about. Fast results
Truly nice metrics for analysing the pressure too. Aspen Colorado slopes look great too!
Great info been struggling with the blacks this season and came to good old youtube for tips to why its definitely tail washing which i don't notice as much doing blues but getting into steeper terrain specially when icy i noticed it alot
Thank you for your videos! Tom, your explanations are full and simple! One day I will teach my students as good as you :)
Thanks, already you wanting to teach to a high level speaks to your dedication to your students. Nice to hear 😊
Really good stuff. Interestingly, I was working on carving with my ski coach and as she encouraged me to keep the edge platform right through the turn, I had felt that I was somewhat in the back seat at that point. She reassured me I was doing fine and I think this explains that I had intuitively been doing the right thing with fore/aft balance.
Great video and the editing was fantastic with the overlay. It was very educational.
Can’t wait to go skiing again and work on this!
Thanks for watching Simon,
We hope that these tips are useful!
Tom, I like your skiing but after 50 yrs of teaching flying,skiing, snowboarding, and numerous other sports, I’ve realized that where one looks and how one looks (scan) is a primary skill that all mental and physical actions build from. Like proper vision, disciplined proactive arm/handwork operate in tandem with foot/legwork. See the French ski federation. I tell my upper level students that their eyes and hands lead and the legs follow. The footpad pressure sensors are interesting but would work better with an additional sensor in the boot tongue measuring shin pressure. Again, where PSIA falls short is in making the emphasis nearly entirely on what happens from the hips down and just holding the arms still. Ones eyes and hands play a vital role in telling the legs what to do. Don’t believe it? Close your eyes and let your arms just hang on your next run....Keep up the good work, Tom. Jan Walør, Winter Park ski/ride school
Thank you! I was trying to articulate what was missing from the carv system and you nailed it. I'm sure it's good, but it's a novelty, not really a tool. And probably not worth 400 dollars
This is flipping brilliant! This committed professional has found a creative tool/exercise/theme to make a nuanced and challenging physiological skiing concept understandable, Translated: Thank you sir, for your ski spirit. I have learned valuable things from your generosity. For those who are truly devoted to authentic competence at this sport, this is a must watch. IMHO, Multiple times...
Thank you, we're extremely proud of this one because we could give multiple objective ways to interrogate an important concept and help people improve.
Thank you very much, that helped a lot 👍
Best teacher on TH-cam!
Thanks for the feedback Jiyang,
Tom really nailed this lesson 👍👍
We hope the tips are helpful when you put them into practice!
Amazing communication skills and ability to identify the things that are most important. This video combined with the early edge angles video, and the how to ski difficult terrain video took me from being an intermediate to advanced level skier!
Just discovered your channel, Thank you so much for this quality video & explanations ! Can’t wait to try them out. I always struggled to find my balance while carving, obviously because I keep my body forward. This will definitely help to improbe ! Thanks again
No problems at all!
We’re always glad to help and especially happy to hear about your improvements.
Stay posted as we have lots more content on the way this season ⛷
Powerful explanation! Now I have the valid mental model of my turn at hand to know what I have to fokus on, when intuitiv skiing fails!:-) I‘m stoked...thanks!
Glad you found it helpful Johann! Stay tuned for more ski content 🎿
Another great video Tom, your explanations are clear and simple, great technique and demonstrations👍
Glad you enjoyed it Igor!
All the best putting these tips into action 👍
Anyone watching this... that was pure gold info he just gave you right there... kudos to you mate...
Thanks for the feedback!
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Thanks 😊
Great lesson, simple to implement. Now another reason to jones on getting back out!
Absolutely!
Thanks for watching 👍
The first time you feel your skis pop or rebound you out of a turn is quite rewarding
wow, i want to go skiing.
thanks a lot for this video. finally, i get what to do in order for the skiing to flow.. i recognized that all the common mistakes you mentioned, i kindof did
Great video. Great explanation. Cheers
Thanks for the feedback Alfred!
We're glad the tips were useful ⛷️
for my understanding, at the second half of the turnb push the skis toward a little bit , it makes your weight press more on the tail inorder to achieve tail bite then pull your skis back underneath your hips, on another word pull your weight back to forward skis inorder to transition, then at the first half of turn, make your weight on your front skis.
wow~! the elegant and beautiful skiing~~기억할게요. 감사해요.
Amazing video! Watched it twice - will be practicing tomorrow 😀
Great stuff Tom. Just joined your site and tried some of the techniques. It makes a huge difference, my 160 racetigers never felt and gripped so good. Sometimes find myself in the backseat, but with more practice hopefully this will improve. Unfortunately our ski hill shut down today.
If you ever get to Canada, I would love to take lessons from you.
Hi Raymond. Stoked you found the extra info on the site helpful. I do put most of my big ideas and progressions there. Im really keeping my fingers crossed to be able to travel again next winter and come back to canada. Enjoy the rest of your season.
This video was incredibly helpful!
Glad it was helpful Courtney!
Thanks for watching.