The commissioner used 9/11 families and “blood money” as a crutch as to why players shouldn’t leave for LIV. Says you “don’t have to apologize” for being in the PGA. Then he shows his true colors and just sold out all those players who he convinced to stay. Guy has no moral compass and just showed it to all
When someone, anyone is associated with professional sports or ANYONE who legally works for a living to live, and says it's not about the money are lying hypocrites. It's ALWAYS about the money. Never the moral grounds. If it actually is, these idiots need to quit the tour immediately. See if that happens. 🤣🤣🤣. Money seems to bend one's morals. Of course, they'll try to spin new justifications/excuses in this to make themselves try to look good. Just STFU and play GOLF. Or write an F'n book and see who cares where you're coming.
That sounds about right. Your best friend, or closest family member will do what you thought impossible given the right opportunity and incentive. Unfailing loyalty is exceptionally rare, if it even exists at all.
This decision was above his head. He’s just the representative for the owners. Nothing more. He literally had nothing to do with this outside of the announcement.
The NFL has been doing low for a long time. Look at the corruption in the Washington team that keeps getting buried. Same with the NRA. There's a lot of cleaning up that needs to be done.
Golf has finally achieved reality television status. Not the feel-good drama of "America's Got Talent" or the recreational competitiveness of "The Amazing Race"...this is fast becoming the "Real Golfers of the PIF."
@@nickbrenner6459 That's a fair sentiment because one should never say never. Allow me to rebuttal it. Over the last five years I've only watched the Masters, British Open, & the U.S. Open. And that's mostly because my father was living with me. He passed away just over a year ago. Which gives me one less reason to watch. He served during the first Gulf War. Spending most of his time in Saudi Arabia. This left him with a very strong impression of the House of Saud and it wasn't a good one. I've come to have just as strong of one towards them over the years. Rest in peace Jamal Khashoggi. So I'm confident I'll never watch as long as the House of Saud owns golf.
My eyebrows are singed at the Murray/McIlroy exchange. I care so little about golf previous to this, but what an incredibly interesting story this is. The sheer shamelessness of this Monahan creep is just astounding. And Rory is going to come out of it as a total heel. There's no way he didn't know something like this was coming a week or two ago when he loudly put a stop to his Liv comments. I need to hear from Tiger. This is top level drama
Jamal Khashoggi would have had little reason to fear as he sat down in a guest chair opposite the desk of Mohammed al-Otaibi, the consul general who had personally called him and invited him back to the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul to finalize his papers that would enable him to marry his fiance. Not long after Khashoggi entered the consul’s office, two men came into the room and dragged him away. Unbeknown to the Saudis, Turkish intelligence officials from the national spy agency, MIT, were listening in. Khashoggi was killed during seven horrific minutes in which he was first tortured, then mutilated, injected with a sedative, and finally dismembered. After days of denial, Saudi Arabia finally said that Khashoggi died in a "fistfight" at its Istanbul consulate. PGA players and fans have little reason to fear the Saudis as they torture, mutilate, and dismember the tour as they did Jamal Khashoggi.
Not saying this isn’t true because the world is a very dangerous and unforgiving place but how did you find out what actually happened? Are you sure the information is fact? No doubt that human atrocities happen ever single day. I mean we are mutilating/sterilizing children in the in US right now. Just hard to trust anything anymore. Definitely can’t trust the pga. Definitely can’t trust the US judicial system. Can’t trust SA/PIF. Can’t trust China or Russia. Can’t trust Ukraine. We can trust Biden doesn’t know anything. I just hope to see the best players playing golf against one another. PGA has to take some blame for having a structure that was able to be manipulated.
I don't care about any of this, but its remarkably funny to me that McIlroy really said that LIV is totally different from PIF. Gotta save face somehow, I guess, even if it makes you look like a fool.
LIV is a golf league. The PIF is a Saudi funding body which funds many sports worldwide. It finances LIV. Rory has always said that he wanted to see an agreement between LIV and the PGA (but without Greg Norman). This is even better for Rory - this is a deal between the PGA and not LIV, but the very people who finance LIV and make it possible. The people who financed LIV are now going to finance the PGA. Norman is out and, it is rumored, LIV may be over and the PGA/Rory are looking at a payday.
His comments prove he didn’t read or listen to anything that was said. 1. They specifically said in the joint statement that no more players from PGA or DP Tours will be joining LIV. 2. In the same joint statement they said they would now look to see how they could properly implement team golf. 3. LIV may run for another couple of years but will ultimately will be replaced.
Another smug Michigan alumni who makes it hard to root for my favorite team. These days when Michigan loses I am comforted by knowing Michigan students and alumni are crushed.
When you throw your integrity and allegiance to someone and that individual does a 180 degree turn…..anyone would be pissed off and would not trust that individual again
@@dieselhrt5492 LIV golfers sold their reputation for money while undermining the hundred plus years it took for professional golf to get to where it is. You don’t need to be a fortune teller to realise that, the damage has already been done by them.
McILroy in is own words said yesterday he was never offered a contract. He or any other PGA player who stayed who were offered a contract or not should not be compensated. At the same time the players who did sign LIV contracts should not be fined. They all gambled, like always when gambling, there are winners and losers.
No compensation. They choose poorly. Live with it. McIlroy, I’m sure sanctimoniously, had feelers and told LIV there’s no amount of money he would leave PGA. So they didn’t try
Yes top PGA players got screwed. But they bent over and spread their cheeks. Rory will never be made 1/2 B whole. Geez I had respect for Rory for standing by his principles, Now, he is twisting reality so he doesn't look so completely taken, The PGA had to know this was possible and used the players as a desperate attempt to remain dominant. Once that failed, they took the same money they derided others for taking.
Why does Golf have to care in particular about 9/11 and not deal with the Saudi's but every other large business and the american government themselves are allowed to deal with them without criticism?
Alan Cawfield You are not paying attention if you think that our government and corporations are not being criticised heavily for doing business with the Saudis.
That was the straw that broke the candle back, because now EVERYONE would leave, take the money, and pay just majors....making the PGA the KORN FERRY. HOW Rory and his financial advisors missed that when I didn't, FROM MY COUCH.....is the entire explanation.
@@joshramirez7 Mickelson came in 3rd at the masters this year.....so if he isn't washed, A LOT of those guys have some movies left. DJ, Brooks, or Cameron Smith GTFOHWTBS
PGA Tour is about to become a minor league tour that feeds talent into LIV Golf. That's what Norman wanted all along. It's apparently what the Saudi boss is wanting as well. The PGA Tour should have grabbed the Saudi money 3-4 years ago before they launched the LIV Golf Tour. Big mistake rejecting that offer, and now the PGA Tour will eventually be a shell of its former self.
"A new company will be created that will be majority-owned by the existing PGA Tour, which is a nonprofit. The new company, however, will operate for profit and Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, which currently owns more than 90% of LIV, will take a large minority stake in the combined entity." Does anybody read anymore?
The merger violates antitrust law. The express point is to remove a competitor. It won't hold up, whether it's called a merger, a framework, an alliance, or what have you.
not that i'm in the mix because i've never liked to watch golf but i'm cheering for it's demise from the sidelines. it's fine enough as a sport/activity but the whole scene around it is elitist and annoying.
@@corbin6304 the revenue of the PGA tour has always been driven by the top players. Tiger made so much less in his career compared to what he brought into the PGA Tour than he deserved. There's only so much of the pie to go around.
I guarantee Jack Nicklaus is seriously regretting not taking LIV golf offer. Especially in light of the law suits against him from his business partner.
“How will this work“ you ask? I suggest the PGA will remain USA based and LIV will travel the globe show casing the best players as they currently do. LIV players are contracted to play LIV events! Now with their PGA/DP membership they can play other events for the ranking points and the $$$$.
Just to correct your headline Banner there is no "merger" with LIV. The merger is between the PGA Tour, the DP Tour and the Saudi national investment fund (PIF), the LIV Tour is not involved with the merger. Secondly, Rory Mcllroy has never received any offers from LIV
Rory is calm because he was told first about merger with Saudi. And was told he will be made whole by jay that why he’s was slient in the meeeting and he’s said he’s still had confidence in jay in his press conference.
IN that same Rory interview he has the audacity to say that the LIV guys don't get back to the PGA with out some punishment\penance. Rory doesn't get it . PGA needs the LIV players. Good Players+Fans=money. The day I saw Rory become the spokeman I new this was all doomed. The players better get together in a Trade Union of sorts or they will just get rolled by this Saudi guy because he has all the money.
For the PGA Tour Players who stayed, quit whining about "Where's my money for being LOYAL?" Nobody owes any of them anything, just like nobody owes me anything. The LIV players took a huge gamble by switching, and the gamble paid off, granted much quicker than I thought. For the ones who stayed, you want more money? Play better. That's life. BTW, I worked at the same place for 25+ years. I went through 5 takeovers/name changes. Business mergers are nothing new under the sun.
“How do they make this work?” Easy… everyone gets paid even more to play golf. After a season of this, and after everyone checks their bank accounts, none of the players are gonna really care. If you’re one of the top players who turned down LIV money to remain loyal to the PGA Tour that’s tough but that’s life. This is simply how the entertainment industry works, and yet everyone is acting like the world is ending. “For us golf fans, why do we even watch anymore?” Why do you watch your favorite show? Why do you watch sports in general? Because you find it entertaining and this merger isn’t going to change people loving golf and therefore they will continue to watch whatever form of it they prefer.
Give me a break. If the PGA isn’t preserved or if Liv comes back, even with Liv money, the PGA will back out of the deal and go back to the status quo before the merger. The PGA has value that PIF will pay for. If PGA doesn’t get to preserve the name, fire Greg Norman, pay all players big sums up front, why would they agree to a deal with PIF? JM wasn’t near that desperate to “just take the money” and do what they want to the brand.
“If you’re a golf fan, why would you watch now?” Uh gee I don’t know… maybe to watch people play golf lol People are crying over nothing. US does so much biz with Saudi. US has done terrible things all over the world. People are naive. Nothing is black and white. Just do your best and enjoy life.
Look at the current roster of sponsors. Aramco is the Saudi Oil Company, DP World is short for Dubai Ports world and American companies to billions worth of business with the gulf states. The money was never that clean in the first place.
We have to remember that LIV couldn't break the strangle hold of the PGA. Maybe PIF is just using this as a stalking horse to to actually to control the PGA and then once they control they say - well actually this PGA thing doesn't really suit us any more, were going to get the old LIV jacket out of the closet and wear that for a couple of seasons. So what happens to Greg Norman now? I wonder if he will making coffee for Jay as of next week?
Rory is basically implying he never cared about the Saudi’s….rather he wanted to preserve PGA traditional format. So he’s totally fine with a Saudi operated tour provided it’s not run “liv style”.
I started watching Golf when Tiger came along and stopped when he faded. It would be like if you were a Yankees fan and they had to keep the same players forever...no rebuild, ever.
Won’t happen but I wish some from the PGA Tour led by Tiger would just break off and form another tour. Let the PGA tour die. And I supported the PGA tour through all this until now. I still won’t watch LIV crap. I guess as others have said I’ll watch the majors and amateur events and that’s it.
Anyone who thinks the tour isn’t anything more than a figurehead. The money is coming from the group that started the other league and now they are gonna be punished?
The PGA has some important players. Like Rahm, Hovland, Morikawa. True. They haven't trashed LIV and I'm sure can play together. Mcilroy has trashed LIV but he he's 34, hasn't won a major in almost 10 years. People put too much stock in his importance. Plenty of top players disappear because of injury, lack of interest etc (David Duval comes to mind) and the game survives.
Shipnuck has been imbedded in LIV golf too long. Can't put a name to the source of any of his information. Monahan and the tour are not agreeing to any framework that includes Norman.
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The commissioner used 9/11 families and “blood money” as a crutch as to why players shouldn’t leave for LIV. Says you “don’t have to apologize” for being in the PGA. Then he shows his true colors and just sold out all those players who he convinced to stay. Guy has no moral compass and just showed it to all
Unfortunately it appears so..
Money seems to have talked a bit louder than morality. He’s just one of many.
You got duped I to believing he actually cared
So do not support it!! Sell your clubs and turn the channel or STFU.
Certainly sounds like he took care of himself first
Funny how when LIV golfers took the money it was blood money. Now the same money was offered to Monihan, it’s now clean. It’s a miracle.
There is NO clean money.
When someone, anyone is associated with professional sports or ANYONE who legally works for a living to live, and says it's not about the money are lying hypocrites. It's ALWAYS about the money. Never the moral grounds. If it actually is, these idiots need to quit the tour immediately. See if that happens. 🤣🤣🤣. Money seems to bend one's morals. Of course, they'll try to spin new justifications/excuses in this to make themselves try to look good. Just STFU and play GOLF. Or write an F'n book and see who cares where you're coming.
Hypocrisy at its best
Once again, loyalty only goes as far as the money required to end it.
That sounds about right. Your best friend, or closest family member will do what you thought impossible given the right opportunity and incentive. Unfailing loyalty is exceptionally rare, if it even exists at all.
Nino Brown said it best:
It’s always business, never personal
@@dagobert1234321Oh yeah?
Cause it SURE looked personal to me when that old man put a bullet in his heart.
lol...who are you Jesus? Common my boy welcome to the planet
McIlroy: "I hate the LIV Tour, the PIF is totally fine in my book."
Translation: "I hate the sock puppet, but have no problems with the puppeteer."
Need to unionize.
My theory is pga knew the anti trust lawsuit was a loser. It still might get em
No doubt but they also sold out .. unfortunately
Stop trying to ruin sports you radical extremist
The players are not in a union??
“How much … do we despise Jay Monahan?”
Answer: A whole hell of a lot. 😂
Monahan has set a new low for sports commissioners. Oh, that's right, he's no longer a commissioner, he's a CEO.
This decision was above his head. He’s just the representative for the owners. Nothing more. He literally had nothing to do with this outside of the announcement.
@@FreshlySnipes lol that’s totally not true
The NFL has been doing low for a long time. Look at the corruption in the Washington team that keeps getting buried. Same with the NRA. There's a lot of cleaning up that needs to be done.
Oh you actually get it, most haven't comprehended this yet, they're still calling for him to quit as Commissioner, which is a moot point.
Monahan did nothing wrong
Golf has finally achieved reality television status. Not the feel-good drama of "America's Got Talent" or the recreational competitiveness of "The Amazing Race"...this is fast becoming the "Real Golfers of the PIF."
Cope
Make that P-I-G
I was down to watching the majors, but now I'm not even going to do that.
Good riddance nobody cares fake wokey
I think you will eventually
@@nickbrenner6459 That's a fair sentiment because one should never say never. Allow me to rebuttal it. Over the last five years I've only watched the Masters, British Open, & the U.S. Open. And that's mostly because my father was living with me. He passed away just over a year ago. Which gives me one less reason to watch. He served during the first Gulf War. Spending most of his time in Saudi Arabia. This left him with a very strong impression of the House of Saud and it wasn't a good one. I've come to have just as strong of one towards them over the years. Rest in peace Jamal Khashoggi. So I'm confident I'll never watch as long as the House of Saud owns golf.
@@UnnameableGreviance well said my friend.
Me either, I don't want any part of the terrorist tour.
My eyebrows are singed at the Murray/McIlroy exchange. I care so little about golf previous to this, but what an incredibly interesting story this is. The sheer shamelessness of this Monahan creep is just astounding. And Rory is going to come out of it as a total heel. There's no way he didn't know something like this was coming a week or two ago when he loudly put a stop to his Liv comments.
I need to hear from Tiger. This is top level drama
Agreed. I've never cared for golf more than I do now and not because of the sport itself
Rory is a total heel
Jamal Khashoggi would have had little reason to fear as he sat down in a guest chair opposite the desk of Mohammed al-Otaibi, the consul general who had personally called him and invited him back to the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul to finalize his papers that would enable him to marry his fiance. Not long after Khashoggi entered the consul’s office, two men came into the room and dragged him away. Unbeknown to the Saudis, Turkish intelligence officials from the national spy agency, MIT, were listening in. Khashoggi was killed during seven horrific minutes in which he was first tortured, then mutilated, injected with a sedative, and finally dismembered. After days of denial, Saudi Arabia finally said that Khashoggi died in a "fistfight" at its Istanbul consulate. PGA players and fans have little reason to fear the Saudis as they torture, mutilate, and dismember the tour as they did Jamal Khashoggi.
Well said.
Not saying this isn’t true because the world is a very dangerous and unforgiving place but how did you find out what actually happened? Are you sure the information is fact? No doubt that human atrocities happen ever single day. I mean we are mutilating/sterilizing children in the in US right now. Just hard to trust anything anymore. Definitely can’t trust the pga. Definitely can’t trust the US judicial system. Can’t trust SA/PIF. Can’t trust China or Russia. Can’t trust Ukraine. We can trust Biden doesn’t know anything.
I just hope to see the best players playing golf against one another. PGA has to take some blame for having a structure that was able to be manipulated.
You don’t like don’t pay attention to it, do you feel guilt for all the deaths and suffering America is responsible for?
@@pushtostart1377 Give a specific comparable example. You can't.
@@ancil57 Abu Graib, Guantanamo bay. Do you read?
I don't care about any of this, but its remarkably funny to me that McIlroy really said that LIV is totally different from PIF. Gotta save face somehow, I guess, even if it makes you look like a fool.
LIV is a golf league. The PIF is a Saudi funding body which funds many sports worldwide. It finances LIV. Rory has always said that he wanted to see an agreement between LIV and the PGA (but without Greg Norman). This is even better for Rory - this is a deal between the PGA and not LIV, but the very people who finance LIV and make it possible. The people who financed LIV are now going to finance the PGA. Norman is out and, it is rumored, LIV may be over and the PGA/Rory are looking at a payday.
He looks like an absolute clown. In typical wine fashion he was wrong from the beginning & just keeps doubling down
@Renata B So now he has direct access to the "blood money". Great.
No one ever accused Rory of being an intellectual giant.
Love how serious Rich is about this decision
His comments prove he didn’t read or listen to anything that was said. 1. They specifically said in the joint statement that no more players from PGA or DP Tours will be joining LIV. 2. In the same joint statement they said they would now look to see how they could properly implement team golf. 3. LIV may run for another couple of years but will ultimately will be replaced.
Another smug Michigan alumni who makes it hard to root for my favorite team. These days when Michigan loses I am comforted by knowing Michigan students and alumni are crushed.
And he should be joking ? Stfu
Rory works for PGA whatever they say he Marches with
When you throw your integrity and allegiance to someone and that individual does a 180 degree turn…..anyone would be pissed off and would not trust that individual again
Sick of hearing selling out your country is good for golf.
How pissed are the guys that turned down the money?! 😂
I'm sure they are in their mansions crying their eyes out
Well, Rory and Tiger kept all of their sponsors. That's not insignificant, but it is certainly not what LIV might have given them.
The LIV golfers will never be remembered as legends. Koepka included
@@elguaje7. cool, a fortune teller! Do you also read palms?
@@dieselhrt5492 LIV golfers sold their reputation for money while undermining the hundred plus years it took for professional golf to get to where it is. You don’t need to be a fortune teller to realise that, the damage has already been done by them.
McILroy in is own words said yesterday he was never offered a contract. He or any other PGA player who stayed who were offered a contract or not should not be compensated. At the same time the players who did sign LIV contracts should not be fined. They all gambled, like always when gambling, there are winners and losers.
Yep
Actions have consequences
No compensation. They choose poorly. Live with it.
McIlroy, I’m sure sanctimoniously, had feelers and told LIV there’s no amount of money he would leave PGA. So they didn’t try
They should get nothing. It’s such a silly narrative lol the media is desperately trying to cause dissent & chaos bc they look silly
The Saudi apologists in this whole comments section are sickening.
@@tpuccia88 because the PGA's ties to China and use of 9/11 widows is totally kosher.
Yes top PGA players got screwed. But they bent over and spread their cheeks. Rory will never be made 1/2 B whole. Geez I had respect for Rory for standing by his principles, Now, he is twisting reality so he doesn't look so completely taken, The PGA had to know this was possible and used the players as a desperate attempt to remain dominant. Once that failed, they took the same money they derided others for taking.
@@goskawow1943 No just be honest and stop twisting the story.
Wanna see Rich really get mad?
Tell him how Trump publicly told all of us this was gonna happen 2 days after LIV signed Phil.
listen to Rich. He's got it
“F off… HAHAAAA” had me dying 😂
Why does Golf have to care in particular about 9/11 and not deal with the Saudi's but every other large business and the american government themselves are allowed to deal with them without criticism?
Alan Cawfield You are not paying attention if you think that our government and corporations are not being criticised heavily for doing business with the Saudis.
@@melissah8415 He is saying why do you care when nothing is proven and no one cares.
Such hypocrisy! Like the Million Dollar man said “Everyone has their price”.
How much did Jay get to sell out the loyal PGA players
kushner got 2B..so who cares
Why would liv golf go anywhere? Liv is the reason Golf is moving forwards ..
Because it's a poor product that can never make money. Very few golf fans want to watch meaningless golf. LIV has done nothing for the game.
Golf: now brought to you by sweet Saudi money 🤑💰
Or the PGA couldn't fool people into thinking the Liv guys were washed after the Majors this year.
The majority are washed, Kopeka admitted he took the money because of his injury he thought was career ending.
That was the straw that broke the candle back, because now EVERYONE would leave, take the money, and pay just majors....making the PGA the KORN FERRY. HOW Rory and his financial advisors missed that when I didn't, FROM MY COUCH.....is the entire explanation.
@@joshramirez7 Mickelson came in 3rd at the masters this year.....so if he isn't washed, A LOT of those guys have some movies left. DJ, Brooks, or Cameron Smith GTFOHWTBS
@@joshramirez7 except they’re not
@@desmondjefferson2127 it was politics from the jump. Rich Eisen is BROKEN LMFAOOO
7:07 - That quote about Rory being a ‘little b1tch’ was hilarious 🤣🤣
PGA Tour is about to become a minor league tour that feeds talent into LIV Golf. That's what Norman wanted all along. It's apparently what the Saudi boss is wanting as well. The PGA Tour should have grabbed the Saudi money 3-4 years ago before they launched the LIV Golf Tour. Big mistake rejecting that offer, and now the PGA Tour will eventually be a shell of its former self.
Rule #1 Always get the money
Exactly. Greg and Phil had a plan to destroy the PGA, and they did
Seem like the other way around to me. Remember who won the PGA😅
Liv is likely to disappear
"A new company will be created that will be majority-owned by the existing PGA Tour, which is a nonprofit. The new company, however, will operate for profit and Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, which currently owns more than 90% of LIV, will take a large minority stake in the combined entity."
Does anybody read anymore?
The merger violates antitrust law. The express point is to remove a competitor. It won't hold up, whether it's called a merger, a framework, an alliance, or what have you.
ABA and the NBA? etc… this has happened before lol
@@jakobvicencio1366 A concession the leagues had to make was the formation of a players labor union. Businesses absolutely despise labor unions.
Trump called this exact merger to happen..
not that i'm in the mix because i've never liked to watch golf but i'm cheering for it's demise from the sidelines. it's fine enough as a sport/activity but the whole scene around it is elitist and annoying.
Rory is a choker, no surprises he defended Monohan.
Golf was just a test to see how easily we can be corrupted. The goal is Wall Street, not friggin golf
the next domino is mlb.
All of this makes golf more interesting and intriguing. You can bet that the usopen will be awesome to watch.
Players need to unionize to guarantee their seat at the table. Rory is delusional and needs to wake up unless he got his half a B.
the top players have been earning the bottom players more than they're worth for years....why would they want to continue that?
@@goskawow1943 A rising tide raises all boats. If the little guy makes more that means the big guys are making exponentially more.
@@corbin6304 the revenue of the PGA tour has always been driven by the top players. Tiger made so much less in his career compared to what he brought into the PGA Tour than he deserved. There's only so much of the pie to go around.
Screw the PGA, I will not watch or support them in any way period. End of discussion!!
Good riddance. Go cry tears into your Ukraine mask
I'm sure they will be devastated
@@holeefuk413hahah
I’m with ya. I don’t care if they don’t notice either. I’ll notice.
@@NotAllWhoWanderAreLost641 virtue signal 🤡
Trump predicted this 11 months ago.... Because the PGA was losing sponsors even Honda left
The dude who’s son got $2 billion from the Saudis and who’s golf courses host LIV events for the Saudis?😂
@@antcantcook960 You mean the son that actually has a business and Hunter doesn't have a business
Apparently Phil Michelson is now an "unnamed LIV executive"
"Holy smokes" is probably not a good phrase to use in this context, since this meeting was at a tourney in Canada...
PGA's Bud Light moment. Kill your brand with your core customer base.
Good luck when everything else is owned by that same company lol
I guarantee Jack Nicklaus is seriously regretting not taking LIV golf offer. Especially in light of the law suits against him from his business partner.
His calmness comes from having an intact spine. Much respect Rory!
“How will this work“ you ask? I suggest the PGA will remain USA based and LIV will travel the globe show casing the best players as they currently do. LIV players are contracted to play LIV events! Now with their PGA/DP membership they can play other events for the ranking points and the $$$$.
I won’t watch a single hole of Golf but I’m all for the Liv Golf and PGA drama 😂
Same.
Just to correct your headline Banner there is no "merger" with LIV. The merger is between the PGA Tour, the DP Tour and the Saudi national investment fund (PIF), the LIV Tour is not involved with the merger.
Secondly, Rory Mcllroy has never received any offers from LIV
Rory said in that interview that he was never offered money from LIV, so take that for what it is. He reminds me of Don Johnson's role in Tin Cup.
Rory approached LIV. He won't admit it now because they wouldn't give him what he asked for, but he did.
Rory is calm because he was told first about merger with Saudi. And was told he will be made whole by jay that why he’s was slient in the meeeting and he’s said he’s still had confidence in jay in his press conference.
And you know that for a fact how? Or just an opinion?
Rory needs to belt up. He is a former top player, not a tour boss.
Rory has no problem taking Dubai's money, check out their human rights statistics
The dynamic duo of Jay and Rory have quickly become the most despised, loathed mistrusted pair in world golf.
When they see their checks are bigger, they will probably wish they went to LIV too!
PIF is the sole investor in the PGA’s new LLC. They also have sole authority to add or not add investors. Sounds to me like the PIF owns the PGA.
Sounds like a few brown envelopes have been exchanged here and not hard to work out that those who were most vocal were the early recipients.
IN that same Rory interview he has the audacity to say that the LIV guys don't get back to the PGA with out some punishment\penance. Rory doesn't get it . PGA needs the LIV players. Good Players+Fans=money. The day I saw Rory become the spokeman I new this was all doomed. The players better get together in a Trade Union of sorts or they will just get rolled by this Saudi guy because he has all the money.
For the PGA Tour Players who stayed, quit whining about "Where's my money for being LOYAL?" Nobody owes any of them anything, just like nobody owes me anything. The LIV players took a huge gamble by switching, and the gamble paid off, granted much quicker than I thought. For the ones who stayed, you want more money? Play better. That's life. BTW, I worked at the same place for 25+ years. I went through 5 takeovers/name changes. Business mergers are nothing new under the sun.
Pretty brutal statement about Rory. Yes, he's kind of a little bitch, but he's still one of the best golfers in the game.
Kind of? 🤡🤡🤡
Hasn’t won in 10 years
@@NotAllWhoWanderAreLost641 wrong
Sometimes life only gives you bad cards to play. That is what happened to Rory and Jay. Wonder what Tiger the billionaire will have to say.
“How do they make this work?” Easy… everyone gets paid even more to play golf. After a season of this, and after everyone checks their bank accounts, none of the players are gonna really care. If you’re one of the top players who turned down LIV money to remain loyal to the PGA Tour that’s tough but that’s life. This is simply how the entertainment industry works, and yet everyone is acting like the world is ending. “For us golf fans, why do we even watch anymore?” Why do you watch your favorite show? Why do you watch sports in general? Because you find it entertaining and this merger isn’t going to change people loving golf and therefore they will continue to watch whatever form of it they prefer.
227 never sniffs a start once the LIV guys are back. Finito, dunzo, gahn
This is the sports story of the year and one of the most facsinating stories in my lifetime.
You posted this multiple times and you obviously don't follow the news .. shocker
It's the lamest dirtiest biggest sell out in the history of sell outs. And the best exemplar definition of what it really is to be do a sell out.
If networks air Saudi propaganda golf they better get ready to lose viewers
Lmfaooo you desperately wish
@@JM-qn3tf maybe you'll watch but then you sound like someone who doesn't know what the Saudis are all about. Lmfao
Nice work Jay
The most hilarious thing out of all of this... Trump was %100 correct and called the entire thing.... lolz...
Omg... What an amazing video. Well done
Give me a break. If the PGA isn’t preserved or if Liv comes back, even with Liv money, the PGA will back out of the deal and go back to the status quo before the merger.
The PGA has value that PIF will pay for. If PGA doesn’t get to preserve the name, fire Greg Norman, pay all players big sums up front, why would they agree to a deal with PIF? JM wasn’t near that desperate to “just take the money” and do what they want to the brand.
“If you’re a golf fan, why would you watch now?”
Uh gee I don’t know… maybe to watch people play golf lol
People are crying over nothing. US does so much biz with Saudi. US has done terrible things all over the world. People are naive. Nothing is black and white. Just do your best and enjoy life.
The golfers should be pissed with Jay not LIV. Because Rory could've gone and signed a big deal with LiV then waited a year to come back to the PGA.
Lol this is great…love to see this drama unfold 😂
Rory in the press conference said he was not offered any money, lie or semantics?
Rory has stated that he was not offered anything from LIV.
Ya, when LIV offers 100 million to bums and Rory got no interest? Hilarious take
@Taco Tom Rory made it clear to them to not bother, of course they would if there was an opening to do so.
Cope
Look at the current roster of sponsors. Aramco is the Saudi Oil Company, DP World is short for Dubai Ports world and American companies to billions worth of business with the gulf states. The money was never that clean in the first place.
Geez, the Open this weekend might make Happy Gilmore look tame.
Tournaments get scheduled and they play, it’s not that hard just because they don’t get along really doesn’t matter.
So it’s ok for the PGA to partner with the PIF, but not LIV. That’s what I got from the Rory interview.
We have to remember that LIV couldn't break the strangle hold of the PGA. Maybe PIF is just using this as a stalking horse to to actually to control the PGA and then once they control they say - well actually this PGA thing doesn't really suit us any more, were going to get the old LIV jacket out of the closet and wear that for a couple of seasons. So what happens to Greg Norman now? I wonder if he will making coffee for Jay as of next week?
Rory is basically implying he never cared about the Saudi’s….rather he wanted to preserve PGA traditional format. So he’s totally fine with a Saudi operated tour provided it’s not run “liv style”.
I started watching Golf when Tiger came along and stopped when he faded.
It would be like if you were a Yankees fan and they had to keep the same players forever...no rebuild, ever.
Well where else are they going to go ?????
“When it is a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.” Voltaire
Remarkably calm despite being told they wpuld use lube, but then just raw doggin it!
Won’t happen but I wish some from the PGA Tour led by Tiger would just break off and form another tour. Let the PGA tour die. And I supported the PGA tour through all this until now. I still won’t watch LIV crap. I guess as others have said I’ll watch the majors and amateur events and that’s it.
With out PIF the PGA is Dead
Millionaires fighting? Won't be able to sleep more than 12 hours tonight.
What a mess.
The Animal House movie said it best "You screwed up, you trusted us"
Where is this sound bite?
Anyone who thinks the tour isn’t anything more than a figurehead. The money is coming from the group that started the other league and now they are gonna be punished?
Rory’s true colors is showing. By the way, I learn how to speak the English language.😊
The PGA has some important players. Like Rahm, Hovland, Morikawa. True. They haven't trashed LIV and I'm sure can play together. Mcilroy has trashed LIV but he he's 34, hasn't won a major in almost 10 years. People put too much stock in his importance. Plenty of top players disappear because of injury, lack of interest etc (David Duval comes to mind) and the game survives.
Good comment
Shipnuck has been imbedded in LIV golf too long. Can't put a name to the source of any of his information. Monahan and the tour are not agreeing to any framework that includes Norman.
Rory! Welcome to the Liv Tour! ⛳️
Never be loyal to your boss or company unless it’s in the family.
Now Rory has to play against more actual golfers and it’s gonna be much harder for him to win🤣🤣🤣
Golf money, oil money, some people are willing to overlook a lot of their own “morals” to get that bag.
Rory 😂😂😂
Grow up
You got played
I don’t care what Liv does I will not partake…. 7:53 7:53 😊
Never liked Rory from day 1. Could never mind his own business. This just cements the fact that he is the biggest hypocrite going
If the players refuse to play there is no pga, simples, the players need to unite.
Yes and boycott or start their own league.
Just go away
And if they don’t play there are no tournaments, they don’t get paid and if they don’t play there is no tv money so this is just fucking dumb.
@@JM-qn3tf you first
They are not employees and they all want Saudi money.