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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- This locomotive UP 1067 was left idling on a siding in St. Paul Minnesota for 5 days. I have seen trains sit around for a day or so waiting on a crew change but never a lone locomotive left to sit and idle for such a long period of time.
I used to fuel locomotives in a couple of large rail yards. It wasn't unusual for some of them to not move for weeks or even months at times. They would automatically start and shut off to keep the engine from freezing and possibly for other reasons, but none of them were abandoned, and neither is this one!
I'd be so tempted to take it for a quick back-and-forth run... Hence why they remove the reverser and train brake handles. 😂
It's running to make restarting easier... It's sat linked to their control center to monitor it
I've seen locomotives idling for far longer than just a few days. I was told that it's easier than to try restarting after sitting for a while. I figured who am I to dispute the reasoning?
i locked the keys in my old pickup at the bank while it was running once - had to walk all the way back to the apartment to get the spare.... oopsie
I see snow on the ground which leads me to believe they were following the rule which is leaving the engine running when under a certain temp. For us it’s 35 degrees and under
They have an auto start feature if the temp drops low
That's pretty cool. This thing was repainted later on.
Wintertime mode. Idle keeps them on a Hot Standby mode when needed. They know where is where this equipment is located.
They don't put anti-freeze in the radiators, and I seriously doubt they put winterized diesel in the tanks. They probably don't need it this moment. It's an old unit, but they certainly don't want it to gel up or the water to freeze in the block
They probably only have a switching job once a week or so, and it probably takes less time and fuel to leave the locomotive there, and bus/drive the crew in, than taking it back to a major yard/facility. Also, it takes a quite a bit of time, and effort to restart a locomotive, not to mention the fuel. Also, I noticed the snow on the ground. Unlike your car, locomotives do not have anti-freeze in their coolant systems, only water that has been dyed green to make leaks easier to identify. So it will be left running to prevent freezing. That, and keeping the air pressure up is probably why it keeps throttling up and down.
I doubt it's "abandoned." It's probably just tied down there. Crews are required to take the reverser handle, and disable to the power to the traction motors when leaving a locomotive unattended. And, even if the doors are unlocked, without a reverser handle, or the knowledge on how to restore power to the traction motors, it aint going anywhere. Don't get caught walking around on UP property, they like to go after trespassers pretty aggressively, and it's a pretty steep fine.
delamaize They really don't tun antifreeze in these things ? That must waste such a colossal amount of fuel having every locomotive idle all winter long.
***** Yep, they don't run anti-freeze in them, Or at least BNSF doesn't. I'm a firefighter, and we had a BNSF representative come down and give us a class on Hazmat with locomotives and trains. He told us if we got called out to a locomotive leaking fluid somewhere, and it appeared to be leaking green fluid, it was only water with green dye from the coolant system. He didn't say why they don't use anti-freeze.
As for wasted fuel, unless the locomotive is having some kind of maintenance, they leave them run. Two main reasons, one is it takes such a long time for them to warm up to operating temp, and it takes a significant amount diesel to start these beasts.
delamaize Hmm cool, thanks for the info. Must have block heaters or something in em because I have seen many a loco shut off and parked in huge strings during the winter. My old job was right behind a rail yard so I got to see all kinds of cool things.
I agree! Railroad Companies REALLY hate Trespassers. Trespassing could get you to court.
+Chris M The locomotives that are in strings ate either stored or the RR's don't need them at that moment
I'm sure some GP60s were built to start up automatically when the temperatures go below zero, and stay on to keep the engine warm. Once the engine is warmed up, it'll shut down and stay on idle.
I'm sure they're aware of that. It's also called trespassing.
UNTILL THE 1980S ALL LOCOMOTIVES WERE LEFT RUNNING 24/7 THE REASON WAS WHEN A LOCO COOLS DOWN THE METAL SHRINKS AND SO DO THE GASKETS ,THAT IS THE REASON YOU BLEED THE CYLINDERS BEFORE STARTING ,IN THE OLD DAYS IT WAS CHEAPER TO SPEND MONEY ON FUEL THAN RISK THE POSSIBILITY OF PROBLEMS IE BATTERIES DYING FUEL PUMPS FREEZING ETC
Oops you didn't cut the video out before the engine rev'd up. Are you the guy in that other video that has a guy "wondering" around an "abandoned" train that also left idling despite their being a truck sitting next to the engine?
+e952ct In an above comment I was educated by another user that the engine computer in the 710 prime mover will occasional increase idle RPM as often as necessary to maintain a certain engine coolant temp. I have a fiance and 2 children, I promise you I have much better things to do with my time than intentionally pretend that a locomotive is abandoned.
Get roasted 😂
Everybody gangster till if you hoods go in and start running the thing
Take it for a spin!!
All railroads idle equipment...probably used for night work...no snow on unit...snow underneath...so ask...when did it last snow?
Yeah it is really weird and kinda creepy if you think about awesome video.
The train is not adbandoned at the last few seconds of the video it notches up to throttle 2
That is the fan/idle controller that notches it up. The door is locked on the unit.
probably not winterized, that's why it has to idle so long
Auto-start. Some locomotives have this feature.
AESS homeboy
ask the people who work there
drive it
Silly questions
it's a run away
its not moving...
See fake
The unit is NOT abandoned and it isn't your business to know why it is there.
Yeah this has been established already internet warrior. BTW My business is whatever I deem my business to be. Try minding your own.
Phhhhtttt
Isn't his business whatever he deems his business to be though?
Aaron White agreed
it's also trespassing in which the railroad don't give fuck about your business but there police department would kindly issue a ticket.
dude its an ex- Southern Pacific, that's rare!
It’s not that rare there’s a bunch of them left
That's actually trespassing since your in the yard without permissions. Also that engine is actually Idling and getting warmed up and ready for the next job.
He said it was sitting for 5 days
>"And I just can't for the life of me figure out why it would be here for so long!'
>*Locomotive notches up*
"In an above comment I was educated by another user that the engine computer in the 710 prime mover will occasionally increase idle RPM as often as necessary to maintain a certain engine coolant temp"
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As a UP employee, I can tell you locomotives freeze up in the winter really easy. They have Guru valves that will drain the water if the water temperature drops below 40, the amount of steel in a loco will maintain a given temperature for an extended amount of time. Secondly for this reason the units are equipped with Smart Start. which is designed to start up and shut down unit to maintain water temps above 40 in the winter. After a loco drops its water it takes two days at 60 degrees to safely bring the temperature back up to be able to refill the water.
an sp machinist could drain the water and change a power pack in two hours in cold weather
Then, there must have some external heating arrangement; electrically or fossil fuel engine. That is dame easy compared to idling an entire loco,omg.
So this engine has not been running for 5 days straight. It has been starting up and shutting down as needed to stray above 40 degrees?
@@davidhenderson3400 Yes.
@@melvinsickels7302 If they brought the thing into a shop maybe. In fact, in order to swap power packs, it would have to be in a shop. Shops are heated. That's not cold weather. It might be too cold OUTSIDE, but shops are INSIDE.
the reason they let them run is so that they don't freeze in the winter cold.
It's just for a yard job. You're at least lucky to catch an ex-SP!
It it's been there for a while, then it probably switches and goes back there.
Back in the 80's when fuel was cheap, I remember going to rail yards where they serviced locomotives, and they would have 30 or 40 locomotives all running. They would run all day and all night 365 days a year. Was quite the site!
it was because of battery problems. they were lossing more money in geting the Locomotive running they they were useing in Diesel fuel
Notice snow on the ground temperature must be low so go figure . The crew was instructed to leave it running and not shut it down by Dispatcher per cold weather operation procedures per Twin Cities service unit .
Yeah, everyone should stop being retarded about it.
it is not easy to start a locomotive in that weather.
Wow! The GP60 looks in great shape for such an old locomotive!
Not that old but yea it's getting up there
It's getting up there with age and being last of It's kind as well being the last of the original freight 4 axle diesels from the old GM/EMD Locos Era.
I stayed at Izaak Walton Inn at Essex, Montana during September about 5 years ago. Izaak Walton Inn sits in the middle of Marias Pass on the BNSF Railway, the lowest crossing of the Rockies yet trains still require helpers over the pass. There is a small yard about 200 yards from the hotel. During the 5 days I was there a couple of Dash-944CW's sat and idled the entire time. On the morning I left I walked over and asked the mechanics how much fuel a GE burned per hour in idle. They said about 2 gallons depending on how cold it was. That's 240 gallons each which wouldn't make much of a difference in the 5K gallon fuel tanks on those locomotives. Anyone know how much a railroad pays for diesel?
a lot cheaper then you have to pay. no fed gov tax no state gov tax its call off road Diesel. the rail roads also have a lot of buying power
The reason they leave them running is because the 2 cycle desial is trying to keep a temperature..they are designed to dump there coolant if it drops below a temp set point
Dude, congratulations. You just documented you were trespassing on railroad property then it starts to ramp up. The exact reason you should NOT have been there.
As a kid I lived near a rail yard, engines were always running and no one around.
id be tempted to take it for a short drive
LOL! I see I'm not the only one with that idea.
CSX used to do this by my house all the time, just leave a loco running in the siding.
The line by my house isn't used much anymore tho so.
There's abandoned and then there's sitting in the yard and freshly turned off for the day.
In an active yard like that, that locomotive could become the least of your concerns should somebody see you.
Some times we use to park are units and vandals would come by and fire them up and let them run theres a shut down power switch in the the main power box. To kill the unit . Some one got in that one and restarted it for fun
That locomotive isn't abandoned, it's on stand-by status. The engine is running to keep essential functions operating.
DON'T tamper with anything or go inside because numerous charges will be filed against you if they catch you.
It's there probably to work that yard or work a local train. They simply don't have traffic in that area rn so they leave it. It's a relatively old, and by the looks of it only decently maintained locomotive. It's not hardly any use on the mainlines of today, so they leave it there because why not. That yard probably has to have an engine on the ready to work customers as they ask for cars. The engine is NOT running idling all day every day. It automatically turns on and off as it needs to to maintain proper interior temperature of its fluids. Seeing as it's cold out there, it probably does spend a fair amount of time running. Also, trespassing railroad property is super not cool. A good way to get yourself arrested or killed.
Cool video, I just don't recommend trespassing. Railroads leave engines running on locomotives since it's a PAIN to get them to start up again in cold weather, so they will leave it on sometimes for a few days. Nice SP GP-60 Though!
I live in st. Paul. Maybe I'll start looking for an abandoned train to take for a little Cruise. :-)
Cool I need to miniaturize it And put it on my Layout🤨
It's gotten to be so that for every 10 feet you step in any direction in America is trespassing or cost you some amount of money. I don't condone braking the law, but I can think of worse things than admiring a locomotive that should be illegal and isn't. Nice close up of a GP60 ! Thanks😊
its not abandoned. up doesnt you antifreze in the locomotives. so to keep them from freezing over in the cold months we leave them running. if you look at the water it is colored but that is a rust inhibitor. no it doesnt take alot of fuel to start them. its electric starter or in some cases air starter. so whoever wrote that is wrong.
It isn't abandoned. They know where it is and it's running because it's more efficient to keep it running in cold weather. Cmon man. Surely you have to be smarter than your commentary lets on. Or are you just a climate warrior.
Before auto start they would leave them running for days to keep the water from freezing! Now days when it gets really cold all night long I hear beep beep beep mmmmmm rrmmmnnmmm for about 20 min of all the locomotives at the KCS yard starting up to stay warm
It's not bothering no one. Oh well, Let it sit there. It only can be on railroad tracks. Locomotives can run over a month without shutting it off. Diesel burns a long time.
...it used to be standard operating procedure to let it idle or drain the cooling system...draining it wasn't bad...it was filling it back up that was a little more difficult...
Southern pacifc
That’s rare u didn’t mention how rare it is to find a southern pacific gp60 to be patched
It’s cheaper to leave them running then shut it off and back on
Reason why they keep it running is because the pipes will freeze and it hard on the engine starting up while it cold and frozen and plus they can have a remote control to high rpms it low rpm it to keep the engine running warm
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore,not like they did back in 1954
Well go turn it off I'm sure they wouldn't care long as you don't steal nothing or anything that's alot of gas they wasted then for 5 days
Abandoned ah ha ok ok sure the UP forgot about a GP-60 ...got ya
Sitting there running for 5 days? Then what are waiting for? Do it!!
Lol you know exactly why, you just wanted to show off an ex southern Pacific
uhh have you ever thought that it may be waiting for a RELIEF CREW😂
Common practice, the video would have been good if you didn’t trespass...
What ever happened with the supposed abandoned locomotive?
I suspect that you got permission from the train crew to be on the property? BTW, The locomotive is not abandoned, it's parked idling, waiting for its next assignment
Thanks for helpin me out in my data decal locations!!
Awesome video, thanks for the up close. Awesome diesel
IN MINNESOTA?!?! that's where I live!
sweet! do you railfan?
+MNRailfan 02 are you talking to yourself?
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Ex SP with Speed Lettering. Very rare find.
It'll be funny when it starts moving on its own.
How to get the transit police, union pacific authorities, and some feds to come after you...doing this and posting it.
Wow somebody overdosed on Flintstones chewables,,,,
You should have stolen it so u can save SP's remains
Seems like this locomotive is running to stay warm. Ironically I saw a GP60 sitting in Mesa near the junction of the UP Phoenix Sub and Chandler Industral Lead. The locomotive had no crew, and was sitting there running. If you've lived in Arizona then you know the Phoenix area rarely gets below 35 F in the winter and almost always gets above 100 in the summer, so I was wondering why this locomotive was running without any work to do. It was over 100 degrees that day, so part of me thought they were trying to keep the air conditioning on so it isnt hot as hell when the crew works in the locomotive after sitting out for days, if the GP60s even have an A/C.
Note: not abandoned its Parked for a reason.
"abandoned"
Miss the old Southern Pacific colors/ scheme! Nice video and thanks for sharing.
The sp railroad was a good company to work for,i was a machinist for 30 years for them and I like working on them big train engines it was a fun job looked forward to going to work everday and the ret pay is good
I would get in the locomotive and blow the horn
I remember when these were BRAND NEW..speed lettered ...they were origionally used on the southern part of the railroad for the fast trailers and container trains.
It wouldnt be abandoned if its running!
1:27 the beast awakens from it’s slumber
Ahhhhh listen to that 710 idling.... Anyway what the hell is a foamer? Railbuffs probably know more than the people working on the railroad. They just look at it as a job while railfans I hope at least in America look at it as American history and paying Homage to America's inventors and men who made it easier for the workers today. These operators today have it easy compared to feeding a steamer coal in sub-zero temps with no radios, phones, shitters nothing! But thanks to smart guys working for EMD all they have to to today is bitch about us railfans
I believe it was because the deisel hadn't been started for a long time. These engines need to run to stay working. They were working out the kinks.
Cold outside. Keep it warm
The only reason why it's Still running is because they do that when it's cold and the Groo will also be back sometime soon
If you ever find a running locomotive with no one in it, maybe the engineers live near by, and it uses more fuel shutting it off and restarting it then just leaving it running
cheaper to run it then on and off. believe me if it moved they'd know. the brake and idle key are taken out. sucker isn't moving a inch.
We do the same thing with our engines on Middletown & Hummelstown. It's simply to keep the cylinders warm and not freeze up, especially in the winter.
Looks like it might be a tad cold. Diesel fuel gels at 32 degrees and freezes at 15 degrees. They just leave them running. keeps the recirculating fuel heaters running. Ever tried thawing out every fuel line on an engine this big???
Far from abandoned. Many have auto start to keep them from freezing. If it gets too cold many are set up to dump their coolant.
I have seen them idling an awful lot, supposedly there has to be a problem with a start up from a cold start. Railroaders have told me they idle to save money on diesel fuel. I always believed they were wasting money by letting the engines idle too long.
EMD locos tend to piss oil out the stack if they idle too long.. a quick 20 minute load once a week keeps them running decent though..
How many gallons of fuel do these things use up?
4500 gallon tank will last 3-4 weeks at idle.. autostart obviously will save a lot.. many older units have automatic shutdown/restart niw.
Chris the railroad levels power like that to help without her trains and or switching work . That gp60 is now a gp60n
Southern pacific ex union pacific
It now is a local in Bloomington il