obviously these people havent really seen tank fight, he can box at elite level, power elite level, speed elite level,counter elite level, defence better than average and improving. boxing knowledge off the charts
I think we are vastly underestimating Frank… Rolly did well against tank until he was stopped. Frank is a much more skilled fighter, more patient and definitely has power of his own. I going with Frank for the upset…😌
For me Zayas looked real sharp Saturday he was landing some real crisp shots on Teixera, had him leaking if it went 12 would’ve been a stoppage but middle rounds he def wasn’t used to a southpaw
Texiera is really durable and is only 33. Zayas just made him look worse than he is. Only person I remember making texiera look that easy was Castaño. Ppl also have to realize Zayas is 21. All these other guys they are putting him in the same sentence with are like 26,27. Thought Zayas looked great
I going to give y'all the real on AB. It's like what my man Sean said AB has always been quick from the waist up and he fought this fight like old AB with the high guard walking you down. But he ain't old AB no more. Old AB didn't start the fight in the high guard walking you down. Old AB opened up with the Philly Shell and the shoulder roll seeing what you got and taking the steam out of you while picking his shots. This older version of AB can still see the shots but the window to get off is closed by the time he reacts. It's like watching Mosley Sr. at the end. Mosley just couldn't pull the trigger in those later fights. Mosley would hit a guy with a good shot, flurry, and rush in smothering his own punches and giving the guy a chance to cover up or hold and recover. Mosley and AB were both quick from the waist up and good athletes but the footwork wasn't there. All footwork ain't good footwork that's what Tank is talking about with Shakur, we praise Shakur's defense but Shakur's defense is mostly evading with his feet, he's not slick defensively like a Whitaker or Toney.
Have to disagree with Zitel on the part that Frank can match him in certain areas. He may have speed and athleticism but that doesn’t mean he can match him. The eye test shows you tank has more in those areas, plus better accuracy and timing. While I do think it’ll be a good fight, I also wouldn’t be surprised if Tank washes him.
I can't wait to see this fight. Tank has been matched perfectly to highlight his strengths. To this day, Tank's best wins are Pedraza and Hector Garcia. Everyone else Tank fought, were clearly past their primes or not on his level. Tank has fought a lot of Mexican boxers who are tailor-made for him with their come forward, offense first, defense last, style. Frank Martin is a highly skilled Black American boxer who has more wrinkles in his game.
Lot of hypotheticals going around. I’ve seen people say that Frank can/will win but can’t give a real reason why other than Tank “gives away rounds.” So if he chooses not to then what? A lot that yall are saying about Frank he has never shown in a fight. His best offense is when the opponent is shelled up against the ropes, other than that he makes a lot of mistakes when initiating his offense.
I’d say it’s gonna go like Davis vs Hector. But giving Martin more drive and forward pressure. Hector didn’t do badly and by what the 8th round distraction he got cold! I believe he jumped back in while being cold and got hurt. But I think he was finding his rhythm before the distraction and time out Davis called for. So that fight had Davis not scored a stun or TKO or knockdown it can be close. That’s how he’d possibly lose. Close competitive rounds and avoiding being stunned dropped or knocked out. Win by the judges Possible. Super possible Davis don’t win every early round and looks for a Ko but doesn’t get it ! What if he doesn’t get that big shot that changes the fight? If nothing .. it can be dangerous for him. Taking Martin lightly as well, he’s looking to prove something. He needs to win more than it matters to lose. These fighters are dangerous shouldn’t be laughed off
I like your analysis except the part about Davis losing on the scorecards... Hate to sound cliche but Tank makes waaaaay too much money to go out to a split decision... also didn't see the hector fight ..so I may not fully grasp your point@@Christophertheartist
My main thing is frank Martin has never fought another southpaw. I’d be very surprised if after the 4th round, Martin has any type of success. I think Davis studies him and downloads martins attacks and gets him out of there in the 7th. It’s going to be just like when Davis fought this dude Jesus cuellar a few years back.
Shu shu from Brooklyn he been boxing since cops and kids when my son use to go there we always knew Bruce was gonna rep our city of Brooklyn since he was a little boy we proud of him coming from Brooklyn we knew once he missed the Olympics he was going pro
Tank versus Frank is a high level fight. But the big difference is Tank is levels above. Yes frank has power speed and iq. But tank is better overall than frank with more. Also Tank Don't Get Credit With his Boxing Skills. He has a jab too. Also speed ,power, accuracy , timing the list goes on. He can actually out box Frank because he is the better fighter. In order for Frank to win he has to circle like crazy use angles control distance and throw combinations on the back foot. Sounds like alot but it boxing he can do it. And has the ability to do so. The question is tank power did yall mention that. 😳 Can frank take his punches. And what will Frank do when Tank adapts and adjust to any thing Frank does.
When they was talking about tank turning it on and his opposition they kept forgetting hector garcia Hector wasn't just coming forward with bad feet and didn't make an inexperienced mistake Edit If I listened 2 more seconds zittel mentioned it lol
Sean Zittell I respect a lot of what you say but mentioning AB and Zab like they're alike is literally crazy. Judah was levels above and accomplished much more than Adrien.
I don't think benavidez would be the favorite against either Bivol or Beterbiev. Obviously he might get a very old version of Beterbiev. I would probably pick Dimitry against him. It would be an interesting fight though.
Xander always had his left hand up if he was throwing the right or his right hand up if he was throwing the left except in that picture where he's throwing the right and he's got his other hand down. Lol. Nobody's perfect.😊
I have Tank by KO/TKO. He's going to test him with some power punches in order to see Franks reaction. Once Tank sees fear/hurt in Franks eyes... he's going to finish him off (round 7-9) but there's possibility that the fight can end in less than 3 rounds if the power punch lands at a perfect target.
Was at fight in Miami broner got dropped & outworked all 10 rds and the whole crowd was there for him 😔 I really thought he could beat flair but I think all that partying caught up to him…
Tank wins in round 7 or 8. Tank has much faster hands, exponentially better feet, nuclear power, and better timing and accuracy. Frank will come out and do well in the first couple rounds while tank downloads him, and probes. After that, tank will start hitting him but Frank wil not make the adjustments, but will be too brave and keep coming forward and will get knocked out.
Danny Jacobs is 37, he's been inactive and had some battles, but Shane Mosley Jr is the world's oldest prospect at 33 and isn't elite. Jacobs was once great, and he should retire win, lose , or draw. Jr. should retire if he loses. I got Jacobs being the first person to stop Jr.
Bro I been saying ab should break my bro comedy or drama , he cud an maybe the boxing business , damn tough to seem him get his tooth knocked out , but one more winnable fight , but it’s mostly over all love
I was watching another boxing show in the guy was talking about how he lost a lot of money picking Xander to win that fight by knockout. Texeira was too slick or two professional to be an easy knockout.🎉
I believe Davis vs Martin will look similar to when Davis fought this southpaw named Jesus cuellar a few years back. Gervonta Davis is going to outclass Frank Martin and get him out of there in the 7th round.
If y’all watch Frank last fight he bring his punches back to show and I bet anybody that’s on this page tank catch him with a upper cut when Frank trying to bring his punch back I got $200 Frank good but tank great but good way to hype the fight😂
Bruh i will never subscribed to a patreon why not just do a members thing on TH-cam i feel like im watching a female trynna push me to her onlyfans typing it here but this isn't the only podcast that does it its annoying maybe im the only one thinking like this but...... it is what it is
Shawn said this is a great fight non champion vs a 3 division champion? I don’t think he do better then de Los santos did vs Shakira tweeterson had him running after eating a hook 🥊 it should be a good fight as long as it last so don’t blink 😅
Clarissa is not the greatest female boxer , Amanda Serrano is & is crazy how you guys didn’t talked about the best 140 pounder Subriel Matias vs Liam Paro
I'm saying this right now. Frank Martin will come out strong and win the first couple of rounds against Tank. Tank will begin to analyze and see the cracks, throw a couple of body shots to see if Frank will catch on. Other than that this fight won't be that exciting. Frank Martin can't take those body shots...
I have a lot of respect for Showtime SP, and there’s a lot of opinion thrown around. Now one thing that I disagree a lot of the reference from the guy with the long hair, putting Canelo with Clarissa as an athlete that became humbler or more approachable in the later part of career. In the sense of Clarissa I can agree with that but if you see Canelos, that is so far from the truth. Look at Canelo interviews on the later part of career and he’s not humble at all. It’s not even confidece. He’s just so full of himself to the point that if you ask the questions that the great majority of the boxing world want to hear His answer, he’s just a dick about it. Yea he has had a good career fighting a lot of great competition but just like Floyd was told he did, Canelo fights boxers on their way out of after bad loses. Contrary to Clarissa Shields that only fights the best available opponent always, for the biggest possible fight for the biggest possible reward and still has a ladylike, confident attitude and is very honest even when having a bayass excuse my spelling on that word, but having bayass for fellow fighters on several fights. Still I commend you Mr Porter for after a great boxing career and for using your knowledge of the sport and making it available for the world to enjoy!!
obviously these people havent really seen tank fight, he can box at elite level, power elite level, speed elite level,counter elite level, defence better than average and improving. boxing knowledge off the charts
It’s a damn good feeling watching the gang back together ✊🏾✊🏾. Let’s get it, was a dman good weekend.
The show is on another level again with 3
I think we are vastly underestimating Frank… Rolly did well against tank until he was stopped. Frank is a much more skilled fighter, more patient and definitely has power of his own. I going with Frank for the upset…😌
Rolly was doing well because tank wasn't looking to outbox rolly he was setting a trap for him to get knocked out, styles make fights
Ummm..the Tank keeps rolling on
@@dustinalbers8160 🤣
Shawn & Sean are great together. They are awesome with these boxing talks
For me Zayas looked real sharp Saturday he was landing some real crisp shots on Teixera, had him leaking if it went 12 would’ve been a stoppage but middle rounds he def wasn’t used to a southpaw
Texiera is really durable and is only 33. Zayas just made him look worse than he is. Only person I remember making texiera look that easy was Castaño. Ppl also have to realize Zayas is 21. All these other guys they are putting him in the same sentence with are like 26,27. Thought Zayas looked great
@@Chupacabra_4 facts I agree he not even near his prime and cooking grown former champs
I going to give y'all the real on AB. It's like what my man Sean said AB has always been quick from the waist up and he fought this fight like old AB with the high guard walking you down. But he ain't old AB no more. Old AB didn't start the fight in the high guard walking you down. Old AB opened up with the Philly Shell and the shoulder roll seeing what you got and taking the steam out of you while picking his shots. This older version of AB can still see the shots but the window to get off is closed by the time he reacts. It's like watching Mosley Sr. at the end. Mosley just couldn't pull the trigger in those later fights. Mosley would hit a guy with a good shot, flurry, and rush in smothering his own punches and giving the guy a chance to cover up or hold and recover. Mosley and AB were both quick from the waist up and good athletes but the footwork wasn't there. All footwork ain't good footwork that's what Tank is talking about with Shakur, we praise Shakur's defense but Shakur's defense is mostly evading with his feet, he's not slick defensively like a Whitaker or Toney.
Became my favorite boxing podcast.. respect to you champ.
This, inside boxing live, and morning kombat (which is 1/2 boxing). And I hope even more come out.
@@RM-ru3fk morning kombat good ufc pod? Searching for a goodone
@@RM-ru3fk Mortal Kombat when they cover boxing is dope 🔥🔥
@@glenchaos9 they’ve been doing more and more, def recommend adding them to the rotation.
Best boxing podcast and cigar talk is the best interviewer
Keep the name of the channel & show , Zitell… keep your name circulating worldwide 🥊 dope show fellas
We think alike Sean I always called for that AB vs Garcia fight back in the day too! 💯
The Champ by GFK is a Boxing song. Great call by B Side
i agree, first time I heard it was when Jon Jones used it. It's one ima use one day.
@justanthony2325 Congrats in advance fam
Have to disagree with Zitel on the part that Frank can match him in certain areas. He may have speed and athleticism but that doesn’t mean he can match him. The eye test shows you tank has more in those areas, plus better accuracy and timing. While I do think it’ll be a good fight, I also wouldn’t be surprised if Tank washes him.
Mario was on backfoot when tank knocked him down several times. Santa cruz was on a back foot when tank knocked him out
Santa Cruz was pinned against the ropes when Tank knocked him out
Santa cruz was on the front foot lol that’s the reason tank caught him with the uppercut
Porter,...you always stick to yo faith, as soon as you veer off, your done!!! Real true Facts!!!!
Xander looked real sharp technically sound & first time vs a southpaw former champ it was great for him to bank those rounds
I can't wait to see this fight. Tank has been matched perfectly to highlight his strengths. To this day, Tank's best wins are Pedraza and Hector Garcia. Everyone else Tank fought, were clearly past their primes or not on his level. Tank has fought a lot of Mexican boxers who are tailor-made for him with their come forward, offense first, defense last, style. Frank Martin is a highly skilled Black American boxer who has more wrinkles in his game.
You rank the Hector Garcia win over the Ryan Garcia and Isaac Cruz wins?Pass what you're 🚬 bro
Lot of hypotheticals going around. I’ve seen people say that Frank can/will win but can’t give a real reason why other than Tank “gives away rounds.” So if he chooses not to then what? A lot that yall are saying about Frank he has never shown in a fight. His best offense is when the opponent is shelled up against the ropes, other than that he makes a lot of mistakes when initiating his offense.
Broner Needs To Stay Out The Streets & Stop Drinking🤪🤣🤪
People love being optimistic lol
I’d say it’s gonna go like Davis vs Hector. But giving Martin more drive and forward pressure. Hector didn’t do badly and by what the 8th round distraction he got cold! I believe he jumped back in while being cold and got hurt. But I think he was finding his rhythm before the distraction and time out Davis called for. So that fight had Davis not scored a stun or TKO or knockdown it can be close.
That’s how he’d possibly lose.
Close competitive rounds and avoiding being stunned dropped or knocked out. Win by the judges
Possible.
Super possible Davis don’t win every early round and looks for a Ko but doesn’t get it !
What if he doesn’t get that big shot that changes the fight? If nothing .. it can be dangerous for him.
Taking Martin lightly as well, he’s looking to prove something.
He needs to win more than it matters to lose. These fighters are dangerous shouldn’t be laughed off
I like your analysis except the part about Davis losing on the scorecards... Hate to sound cliche but Tank makes waaaaay too much money to go out to a split decision... also didn't see the hector fight ..so I may not fully grasp your point@@Christophertheartist
My main thing is frank Martin has never fought another southpaw. I’d be very surprised if after the 4th round, Martin has any type of success. I think Davis studies him and downloads martins attacks and gets him out of there in the 7th. It’s going to be just like when Davis fought this dude Jesus cuellar a few years back.
Maties vs paro preview??
Shu shu from Brooklyn he been boxing since cops and kids when my son use to go there we always knew Bruce was gonna rep our city of Brooklyn since he was a little boy we proud of him coming from Brooklyn we knew once he missed the Olympics he was going pro
Benavidez is generally underrated. Might loses some early rounds but, in the end, it’ll be more of the same. Cumulative punishment. Stoppage in 10
Keep Sean zitell!!!
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Great episode gentlemen. ✌🏾
Tank versus Frank is a high level fight. But the big difference is Tank is levels above. Yes frank has power speed and iq. But tank is better overall than frank with more.
Also Tank Don't Get Credit With his Boxing Skills. He has a jab too. Also speed ,power, accuracy , timing the list goes on. He can actually out box Frank because he is the better fighter. In order for Frank to win he has to circle like crazy use angles control distance and throw combinations on the back foot. Sounds like alot but it boxing he can do it. And has the ability to do so. The question is tank power did yall mention that. 😳 Can frank take his punches. And what will Frank do when Tank adapts and adjust to any thing Frank does.
Jacob's is from BROWNSVILLE BK 💯
Love the show.
What you think of shu shu performance
When they was talking about tank turning it on and his opposition they kept forgetting hector garcia
Hector wasn't just coming forward with bad feet and didn't make an inexperienced mistake
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If I listened 2 more seconds zittel mentioned it lol
Sean Zittel was playing the WWE game with that Ghostface song on it…. S/O to him
1:16:00
I need to see the SP documentary
That answer came from a deep place
Not one mention of Matías smh
@37:00 AB would not unify 135-140 cuz Mikey Garcia was better than him at any weight
Shawn acting like Tank ain’t rough him up in sparring too 😹
He was on the way out 😂
caleb got funny with the money with Justin
Stamina will be the name of the game. Frank tires out and gets KOed, Tank takes early rounds off to preserve stamina
Sean Zittell I respect a lot of what you say but mentioning AB and Zab like they're alike is literally crazy. Judah was levels above and accomplished much more than Adrien.
Yo Blair the Flair Cobbs Let's Go"!!! What an entertaining Fight 👏 💯 Cobbs did his thing.""!! Hey let's give it up to him
I don't think benavidez would be the favorite against either Bivol or Beterbiev. Obviously he might get a very old version of Beterbiev. I would probably pick Dimitry against him. It would be an interesting fight though.
Xander always had his left hand up if he was throwing the right or his right hand up if he was throwing the left except in that picture where he's throwing the right and he's got his other hand down. Lol. Nobody's perfect.😊
We live baby
I have Tank by KO/TKO. He's going to test him with some power punches in order to see Franks reaction. Once Tank sees fear/hurt in Franks eyes... he's going to finish him off (round 7-9) but there's possibility that the fight can end in less than 3 rounds if the power punch lands at a perfect target.
AB gotta fight again and let his hands go next time
Who can ab fight 😂
@@roderickjacksonsrtvshow6048 put him in the ring with boots at 147
@@roderickjacksonsrtvshow6048 Ivan Redkach
Y'all keep forgetting about LAILA ALI!!!! She's the GWOAT!!! Y'ALL BETTER PLAY HER TAPE BACK Ms. Ali was knocking em out!!!
Was at fight in Miami broner got dropped & outworked all 10 rds and the whole crowd was there for him 😔 I really thought he could beat flair but I think all that partying caught up to him…
Why y’all keep doubting tank 🤣🤣
Zab Judah and Floyd is the perfect example. Power vs skill. Because pretty boy was a puncher.
Tank wins in round 7 or 8. Tank has much faster hands, exponentially better feet, nuclear power, and better timing and accuracy. Frank will come out and do well in the first couple rounds while tank downloads him, and probes. After that, tank will start hitting him but Frank wil not make the adjustments, but will be too brave and keep coming forward and will get knocked out.
Did Gvozdyk miss all of that time because of the war in Ukrainian?
@46:33 Subliminal shot at Canelo
Danny Jacobs is 37, he's been inactive and had some battles, but Shane Mosley Jr is the world's oldest prospect at 33 and isn't elite. Jacobs was once great, and he should retire win, lose , or draw. Jr. should retire if he loses. I got Jacobs being the first person to stop Jr.
ShawN Porter it's time to go back to 147 BROTHER.....
Bro I been saying ab should break my bro comedy or drama , he cud an maybe the boxing business , damn tough to seem him get his tooth knocked out , but one more winnable fight , but it’s mostly over all love
I was watching another boxing show in the guy was talking about how he lost a lot of money picking Xander to win that fight by knockout. Texeira was too slick or two professional to be an easy knockout.🎉
I believe Davis vs Martin will look similar to when Davis fought this southpaw named Jesus cuellar a few years back. Gervonta Davis is going to outclass Frank Martin and get him out of there in the 7th round.
Sean>>>>Max kellerman
If y’all watch Frank last fight he bring his punches back to show and I bet anybody that’s on this page tank catch him with a upper cut when Frank trying to bring his punch back I got $200 Frank good but tank great but good way to hype the fight😂
Cobbs and broner are the same age
Bruh i will never subscribed to a patreon why not just do a members thing on TH-cam i feel like im watching a female trynna push me to her onlyfans typing it here but this isn't the only podcast that does it its annoying maybe im the only one thinking like this but...... it is what it is
guys just watch Ab vs Maidana or any old fights. old Ab is GONE.
Shawn looking real Zesty with his leg up like that!
Why they acting like Mosley Jr is anything. Berlanga would sleep him.
Tank by body shot ko
Shawn said this is a great fight non champion vs a 3 division champion? I don’t think he do better then de Los santos did vs Shakira tweeterson had him running after eating a hook 🥊 it should be a good fight as long as it last so don’t blink 😅
No one is a fan of Shane because he’s a “good looking guy” wtf 😂
Tank will ko frank in the 9th.
Absolutely no need for backwards riddles yet here they are speaking in perables
I’d bet my house on Benavides ko/tko
Box this box that, u cannot run for 12 rounds.. them legs get tired now u gotta bang/trade 🤷♂️
Clarissa is not the greatest female boxer , Amanda Serrano is & is crazy how you guys didn’t talked about the best 140 pounder Subriel Matias vs Liam Paro
I'm saying this right now. Frank Martin will come out strong and win the first couple of rounds against Tank. Tank will begin to analyze and see the cracks, throw a couple of body shots to see if Frank will catch on. Other than that this fight won't be that exciting. Frank Martin can't take those body shots...
"Might be the favorite "
Get j.g quintel out of there
I have a lot of respect for Showtime SP, and there’s a lot of opinion thrown around. Now one thing that I disagree a lot of the reference from the guy with the long hair, putting Canelo with Clarissa as an athlete that became humbler or more approachable in the later part of career. In the sense of Clarissa I can agree with that but if you see Canelos, that is so far from the truth. Look at Canelo interviews on the later part of career and he’s not humble at all. It’s not even confidece. He’s just so full of himself to the point that if you ask the questions that the great majority of the boxing world want to hear His answer, he’s just a dick about it. Yea he has had a good career fighting a lot of great competition but just like Floyd was told he did, Canelo fights boxers on their way out of after bad loses. Contrary to Clarissa Shields that only fights the best available opponent always, for the biggest possible fight for the biggest possible reward and still has a ladylike, confident attitude and is very honest even when having a bayass excuse my spelling on that word, but having bayass for fellow fighters on several fights. Still I commend you Mr Porter for after a great boxing career and for using your knowledge of the sport and making it available for the world to enjoy!!
Claressa is actually pretty horrible if you search around on TH-cam you will find why
I fuck w xander but it looks like he would get smoked fighting against high competition
I DON'T SEE NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT ZANDER.
AB is no hall of famer
If you was building a machine to be a boxer....just mode it into Prime young Roy Jones!!! Roy is the best Boxer EVER💯💯💯