"The sport is at a breaking point!" - Phil Nicoletti on the brutal realities of racing Supercross
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- With the WSX in town and a couple of the boys deciding to stay and enjoy the Gold Coast post race, it was the perfect time to smash out a couple pods. In this Chapter of the podcast we were lucky enough to be joined by one of the legends of the game, Filthy Phil & long time factory wrench Ben Schiermeyer! These guys are a wealth of knowledge in the sport and it was super fun to sit down for a few hours of BS'n in the wake of the Australian Supercross GP.
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5:40 Phil hit the nail so hard on the head. When I quit racing it was like there was always a hole, and I fully believe that it was that adrenaline dump that we've all become so hooked on then when you quit it's no wonder we'll all scratching our necks, and I didn't even race at that high of a level for very long!
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Same thing that happened with formula one. it's corporate greed. You guys need to protest. Something extreme is the only way to make changes. The problem is there is always gonna be some young up and come ers that will race regardless. As a fan if we stop showing up to races that will get their attention. Stop watching, but make it clear it's a protest for the riders sake.
but we listened to the riders haha
The AMA has to go. Get the FIA/FIM/CIK in the US and a lot of the issues we have, in all forms of racing, disappear. I guarantee you.
Look at road racing or karting. Anyone with the talent and a true aspiration, plus the money to get there, goes to Europe. Because here is a waste of your best years.
They run you ragged here and you get nothing for it. No scholarships, hardly any sponsorship, all the money goes who the fuck knows where. Idk, just my opinion.
Dude even as a casual rider if I take time off of riding I am addicted I miss it I feel that
Kite Surfin is the same deal
I think SX 10 rounds MX 10 rounds and top 10 in points in both go to a 5 round WSX. Would be awesome. January to July
Dudes bitching that hes living the dream lmao. Most ppl work 40 hrs a week all year round at a job they hate and he's bitching cause he only gets like 2 months a year off.
You’ve probably never regularly traveled for work dude.
True you never hear coal miners squealing like little bitches about work being hard!
If your employer asked you to go away every weekend for 9 months, asked you to practice your skill set on your off time every other day. Stay in excellent physical condition / refrain from anu drinking, drugs, late nights , eating junk food, and made you so unsafe at the workplace that one mistake causes broken bones, concussions and flirting with parylazation every working moment....all for not more money annually than you make now....say 75k a year.......Does that sound like a good deal to you or would say to your bossman....i deserve either more money or more time .....???? Most of the riders on an AMA gate dont make more than in the regular 9to 5 world. The top 10 in each class make a lot and top 3 maybe millions...the bottom 30% also work for a living.... Racing MX and SX is not at the pay level it deserve. ..very unfortunatley
@@waynegarfield6607 2/3 of the world lives on 3 dollars a day motorcycle racers are very privileged relatively if your pissin and moaning about money your probably not that good at it and that hurts but the truth normally does.
@@waynegarfield6607 I understand his argument. But nobody makes him race professional mx or sx. Let's be honest it's like MMA. The lower tier athletes don't make good money when you consider managers cut, gyms cut of the purse and taxes. They're left with hardly anything and they train their ass off too. The thing is though if he hates it so much why doesn't he either A. get better results which will elevate him to better pay and equipment or B. Find a different job? And another factor to consider is his team is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get him to every event they want him at. The injuries suck but there are ALOT of professional mx or sx riders that make most every race without injuries. We could argue this all day. If I went to my employer being in a right to work state and said you pay me more or give me more time off theyd fire my ass.
2 Things; 1, in Circle Track dirt racing it's the same problem, these guys just race CONSTANTLY there IS no off season. It's extremely difficult to survive an entire season let alone perform well. and 2, the biggest sport in the West is NFL, and they play so many fewer games than every other sport, AND it's the most popular. Less frequent racing would be better for EVERYONE.
Come build houses 12 hrs a day and work weekends if your behind if you think that will be better for ya
You aren't risking your life doing that every day
@@sexatica guess you never walked across trusses 30 ft in the air
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@@sexatica I guarantee there have been WAY MORE deaths on constructions sites than there have in MX.
@@sexatica you do risk your life in construction dummy
I love this sport and watching this leaves me asking myself what should I do, as a fan, to help? Cause I paid 200USD just in tickets to attend Unadilla this year with my family. Probaly a 100$ in fuel to get there, 200$ for the hotel and probably around 50$ in food and other stuffs trackside. And I was happy with the show and all. But I'm not a millionnaire... I don't bring my kids to hockey games or other expensive shows worth like 150 bucks + a ticket cause I just can't afford it. What can I do to help? And this is not me displaying dispair. It really is a sincere question you know...
What/who are you talking about helping ? Btw you can sleep in a tent it's cheap and fun :)
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If it's too hard these guys could quit, or form a union and demand better hours.
Bro I was gonna go to dilla this year but it just wasn't the move because of the money it would take to get there from buffalo
Tbh, I bet if just 5-10% of fans started sending hand written letters to all the ama and smx execs every week, would start to see change. But also, riders need to team up and state demands. They have no series if the riders don’t show.
Part Of me says “man up you pussies”. Then another part says “I couldn’t do that either “… Tough life
The fact that you’re semi self censoring because you need a press badge is a huge indication of a much larger issue at hand. Honest ppl don’t fear criticism. Liars and cheats do tho
Nobody forces riders to race. They do it because they love it. The top guys who people want to watch a millionaires in a sport that is smaller than lawn bowls.
So you disagree with everything they are saying?
@@tychase2432 No, but people complaining seems to be very common these days, I get tired of it. Just get on with your life, career and be thankful for Feld, MXsports or Infront, because without them, the sports in trouble.
It is true: while I understand the point.. everyone works 40-50 hrs a week or more and a lot of jobs have health concerns.
@@MrXalex25 True, probably 80% of the population hate their job. Sportsmen, in any sport are very, very lucky.
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” MXLarge, what these actual pros are trying to tell all of us is that the system is broken. It’s not complaining.
These SX/MX Dudes have always been my super hero’s. They’re truly on another level in regards to their physical & mental dynamics.
Wow, Such a hard life doing what you love for a living which was your choice bro, complaining about flying commercial, long work weeks...try getting a real job and the real struggle to make ends meet....not a good look here boys...You dont know what a grind is.
You gents should try concreting, just for some perspective😂. We all wish our jobs would be half the year and double the money but the world simply can’t work like that. The state of motocross is dictated by the over supply of highly motivated, extremely talented riders trying to make a dream come true. If bricklaying was fun then bricklaying would have exactly the same “issues” as moto does.
Facts. Any physical labor job, it doesn't take long and they WISH they were back racing Moto, ask Christian Craig! He Retired, and went back to work and it wasn't a year, maybe 2 he was like FFFFFF That, I'm going back racing.
Obviously..this dude doesn't ride
Sorry dude...I know it's a year later...but bricklaying/concreting and being a professional athlete is not the same comparison. Especially what they are talking about. Not saying that bricklaying isn't super hard...but there's a reason theres more bricklaying companies/workers than all the professional sports combined. You're comparing jobs that 60+ percent of the population can do (especially with modern equipment advances)....to the literal one percent of humans. You're crazy and help re-enforce that laborers don't use their brain stereotype.
The day you can die from doing concrete is the day you can compare to dirt bike racing not to mention they work monday threw Sunday training the heart rate they are ment to keep is enough to cause people heart attacks and you can be the best rider have your bike malfunction end up dying or being paralyzed from something thst was completely out of your hands you had no control over it untill that can happen while doing concrete dont act like doing manual labor is something you can compare to someone who can die from what they are doing regardless of how good they are at it or how much they train and practice and before you say some dumb shit ive built trusses and worked on building house and now i do granite countertops and i would never compare my job to a job someone can die doing get overyourself lol
@@deansantaw9949 You can die walking down the sidewalk wtf is your point
Tripping on shrooms with Phil would be epic.
haha i agree
@@jnature6586 throw in A-Mart and Steve Matheses
@@woodrowrunyon9235 Throw Steve Mathes into oncoming traffic, maybe, but that's about it! 😂 I cannot stand that guy, what a prick.
Gotta love Phil .what a legend he is seems well down to earth .he the elite of the elite in our sport .top twenty rider day in day out in the world imagine beeing able to say that
At the end of the day we still brappin 😂
It is ridiculous that there are 31 races a year and that these athletes have such a tight schedule like they do and I feel for them but,
There are middle class citizens who work that same sort of schedule for a lot less money and not to mention they are not riding dirt bikes to make money. There is a lot worse things they could be doing with their careers. I have mad respect for these bad asses and I envy them. I would dream about that lifestyle as a kid only for my dreams to never come true due to lack of money to keep up with the sport and injuries that still plague me today because I did not have the financial means to see top doctors and surgeons. Now I am an old man that works as an engineer and lives through his kids. But I still manage to do a handful of motos and a handful of desert races per year.
Doesn’t matter how comfortable you are whilst travelling it’s still tiring. Personally I only get a good nights sleep in my own bed.
WHEN, WHEN, when will they get organised and start protesting this nonsense. F1 has drivers representation to ensure their safety. That SX event this year where Hunter came up short on the big triple in practice is case in point.
**All you armchair racers who complained and said the riders were 🐱, STFU! You aren't in this convo because you don't do what these riders do**
There are a couple of problems here. One, having the promoters and track designers dictate what the riders have to do, no matter how dangerous, to excite the crowd is ludicrous. To all the "tough guys", you do it for 30m +2L with the likes of JB and VF behind you. It's not just about coming up short or not doing the jump, it's also about the guy behind who does try and lands on you.
The AMA and FIM need to grow a pair and do something about the bullshit tactics some riders use. I like JB and would like to see him do better, but not at the expense of another rider's health. MS could have cleaned JB out at SLC, but he did a perfect pass. There was no reason for JB taking out MS. That aggravated MS's knee injury and he wound up missing races. MS could have lost out on a season, or worse, the rest of his career. Then there is VF - WTF! VF should have been disqualified for that high-speed takeout (Vegas?) and received a multi race suspension. After what just happened in Australia with Brayton he should receive, at a minimum, a season ban. Offering money to another rider to take someone out should result in a lifetime ban from top tier racing. It's only a matter of time before a rider becomes paralysed or killed with this shite.
Now let's talk about purses. I was shocked when I saw how little prize money has increased over the decades. I sort of get MX, but for SX the payouts should be much better. They surely haven't kept up with the prices for seats or the food at the stadiums. There are too many riders who risk their lives just to make enough to get to the next race. Those riders who are lucky enough to get the opportunity to race the LCQ are still very fast and are needed to keep the gates full. If this segment isn't cultivated, the sport will eventually implode. Everyone wants to get to the top and be Tomac, or in my case Lechien, but how many riders who started with their first events only being in the LCQ and then being a top 5 rider?
The top teams have become more professional with the big rigs and such, but it's time for the riders, all of them, to become more professional and get organised. The riders need to stop acting like a bunch of individual children and realise they are all in this together. If something isn't done about the dangerous behaviour of a select group of riders. Pro football finally made some changes in the name of safety. There is no reason to purposely hurt someone.
Again, for all those armchair hacks, STFU! Until you are holding the ball and being chased down by some guy who is 6'4" who weighs 250lb of muscle or lining up for a qualifier at a SX, you have shite to say. I knew I didn't want to jump Suicide Mountain or the Wedge at Saddleback. The Wedge ended the very promising career of a rider I knew of. It's one thing to catch a rut funny, Pit Beirer, but it's very different when you only have 1% margin of error.
Great video.
If you think about the risk to get there in the first place - and the pay for all but the top - it’s not worth it.
It’s ridiculous - might as well be a gladiator and be fed to the lions to get it all over with.
Love our sport - but not what it does to these riders.
I just can’t imagine that and it’s why we lose so many racers . I was there myself I raced and raced and raced that’s what was important all through my 20s and 30s . The grind killed it for me and im only local fast like winning district stuff no national titles . I took a step away from the sport the last few years and have found road racing .
That’s replacing the grind/fix with another adrenal fueled deal. Mine was drag racing from 8 years old until my late 20’s then I started doing moto and throw in being a firefighter since I was 18.
We always seem to replace the fix with a fix
@@MPAC-ug7jl yup
Grind what fucking grind? You wanna see grind look at Christian Craig went pro fell of went to being a roofer then said FUCK ROOFING as soon as he got another chance at being a pro.
Striving to be the best has done this. There will always be somebody whiling to do more for a championship and that started with Ricky.
Ricky is the only like on a race track. Poto is not even close. James is the most technical on track but I don't think he has the passion same as Ricky.
@@keiannschyler English?
@@JessC792 not a native speaker of english.. not my problem if you can't comprehend.
@@keiannschyler "Ricky is the only like on a race track" Thats where you lost me
racing supercross is a choice. nobody HAS to do it. they do it because its their passion. yall chose that life
It would be hard enough without the injury factor. I’d say once you get established enough ride SX or outdoors only
Facts. I get why these teams want their guys to race both, but for sustainability I really do think it'd be in everyone's best interest to have SX and MX "specialists" as it were, because having all your eggs in 1 basket is nice IF it works out, but with moto so rarely does it in fact, work out.
The problem with the sport of MX and SX is that it’s not as popular as the major sports, the big money is simply not there.
true fact, but why? How do you make it as popular as MLB lets say?
If they put it on tv channels that everyone could actually watch instead of like a different app per moto thatd help haha. And they make way more than enough to have a higher payout than $10k for first place of a 450 sx main event haha. Thats insane to me that thats all they make (aside from their sponsorship deals)
@@markgaudreau8053 it has to relate to families across America, football, baseball, basketball is all affordable and in schools so popularity is easily supported by mainstream America. Motorsports are harder to do aside from NASCAR. They can try different formats and time slots? Try and get into certain demographics?
@@diggitydawg241 it has been on nbc in the past and moto x games used to be on espn.
@@markgaudreau8053 your average kid cant just go and start racing dirtbikes its way to expensive and thats the main reason it will never be big... its a rich persons game.
Thirty years ago, riders were chastised for not having the regiment and dedication of a Jeff Ward or Jeff Stanton.
I remember in the 90s, the first three sx races was like watching everyone get back in race shape in real time. Those days are over.
So you’re saying that risk, hard work and sacrifice is not worth the chance and opportunity for fortune and fame? Dammit all this capitalism thing😆
i want to go on a shroom trip with filthy phil and watch the show squidbillies
Eli does it everyday, every year, never gets hurt while beating everyone. How does that guy do it?? That’s the million dollar question.
This didn’t age well 😮
He knows when to back off. Plus he’s in the best of shape. He’s still beast mode in my eyes. And he has had that many serious crashes. Think his shoulders back in 17 is the Achilles injury in his thumb injury. That’s why he’s in good shape and still able to go and ride. It pays off in the long run to get in a lot of accidents or crashes you able to go. Tomac is almost a rare breed.✌️🤙🙏👍🇺🇸💯🫡
Living and training at home, at altitude, with no other top guys around, with his Dad, I think that really is a lot of it.
@@iceKOId double that now. It's only a ticking time bomb, no matter how cautious you are. Also, caution doesn't win a championship anymore
@@BilobateDrip I hope Deegan and Jett stay healthy. It’s so easy to have a crash requiring surgery
It will be like boxing and mma sports. There will be good riders in each series that we will never get to see race each other. The system wasn't broke.
Maybe the pro moto will split.
Something like Nascar with the different series deals... I don't know how Nascar works, but not all the pros doing all the rac.
Phil, come race NGPC (AMA BIG 6) or WORCS, . . .you'll be busy!
If it’s too much you should pack it in, imagine average working class people we don’t get the perks so be greatful and quit bitching
I exactly understand what you mean, but i still think you have to have people who complain in order for the sport to get better and evolve
Welcome to life fellas . This is reality for 99.9999999 percent of society . Doing shit that isn't fun to make ends meet
haha Jocko Wilink would say "Good!"
Ehh..
Takes hard work to play the game.
Try baseball.. 150 games a year.
Young blood drives the world.
Chop chop
Great interview. Phil is so real about this it hurts. What Phil so calmly describes sounds like a special kind of Hell.
While there is no physical danger or adrenaline hits involved, the soul crushing cubicle Hell middle management accountable but no authority 70+ hours a week corporate grind sucks too. I mention this as it was my work reality for 35 years, and misery loves company. There is no way I would have hacked it and probably would have "gone postal" if not for the motorcycle habit as a release and safety valve!
They say "follow your passion". BS I say - there is nothing that can kill passion like turning it into a grinding job. It is better to find work that you can do easier/better than others, and do that. At least then the grind isn't quite as bad, until the corporate overlords figure out that you are part of the 20% that can do 80% of the front line work. Then they relentlessly pile more work on with no financial rewards other than nice words in your annual review that don't pay your bills.
Getting promoted to "strategic" do nothing executive positions in the corporate world is a boot licking popularity contest, it is like fucking High School all over again. Lately there are "DEI" promotions going on too. Not "PC" of me to say this, but forget it if you are a straight white guy. A lesbian black chick? Promote her ass to SRVP of the Diversity Equity and Inclusion Dept. and pay her 250K a year to show the world just how progressive and inclusive we are. I'm not making this shit up, I've lived it and been pulled away from my busy pile of work and subjected to the mandatory sensitivity training. As you may surmise from this little rant, the training didn't really stick...
So even at the elite level, being a pro MX racer isn't all it's cracked up to be, and working for corporate America typically sucks ass. There are no more 40 hour a week punch the clock, make decent middle class money with benefits, go home and leave it behind over the weekend jobs anymore. Where did the middle class jobs go? They got outsourced to cheap labor hellhole nations, all so we can buy cheap shit at Walmart, and the corporate executives and shareholders can compound their wealth. What to do then?
Hiding out in some sort of managerial government job seems like it it is about the only viable option, as the relative work utopia I describe doesn't really exist in the private sector, whether one works for a corporation or even those who are entrepreneurs. Successful entrepreneurs are probably the hardest working people of all.
As for my recent college grad young adult daughter, I have a friend who owes me a favor who is in management at the state Health Dept. She is feeding us inside info and working to get my kid into that cushy insulated from reality government job paradise 😂
Then do a grinding job.
All of this is just bitching about work, except for the risk factor. SX esp is already very dangerous to have schedules extended is kind of nuts.
Bring back a rule of stock 2stroke dirtbikes so everyone sees who's the best rider really. Make rule of so many practice days and give blokes 2 too 3 week breaks between certain rounds. It will bring back the fun to both riders and spectators. At end of season make rule you can drop worst result. Avagud1
There's always the option of selling parts at the local Honda dealer
This sport is going to.miss Phil, love his honesty
If it's so bad, quit. Youre talking to hard working people across the world. Many of us working very deadly jobs but go in everyday for way less money. What about coal miners or child slave labor in Lithium mines to name a few. Be happy with what you have and love your family. Stop complaining.
I think the neverending season would be cool If the race pay was significantly higher in all series. Then riders could pick and choose and have more power in their deals instead of being committed to certain full series for team obligations, or simply knowing that they race for peanuts so over-committing to a crazy schedule to try and get bread. Always comes back to pay the guys more ,they ain't circus animals they are top G's!
Why would they get paid more?
@@ATSaale is that a joke?
@@ATSaale 7th $26,597
8th $25,027
9th $23,507
this is the payout for the iditarod. never heard of it? me either. compare that to ama premier class 7th-$2650 8th $2550 9th-$2500. could also compare to PGA,F1,NASCAR,NFL,ESports if ur feeling frisky
@@jnature6586 the Iditarod is probably the single most famous non motorsport race on earth, it's also a yearly race so comparing the payouts is dishonest.
Also just because someone else makes that much doesn't mean these guys should
Seriously though, motocross is a rich kids sport without mass appeal, it's the same problem that's kept hockey from reaching the heights baseball and basketball have reached. You can outfit an entire basketball team for the price of a bike, or goalie equipment.
@@ATSaale I know what the iditarod is its a joke foo. but in all seriousness its a solid comparison considering moto is 100 times cooler and funner to watch casually.
why do you think they should make shit? i dont understand ur logic on why their pay is legit as is.
Who cares if its a rich kids sport, so are plenty others that have proper pay and management. The promoters have pillaged the sport for years making bank and sharing little, while monopolizing every aspect of the promotion possible, hindering outside support. almost like its a circus show, oh wait thats right.
no mass appeal?! what does any other sport have as far as mass appeal that moto doesnt? it hasnt been mass adopted but is more appealing to a casual than almost any sport IMO and deserves recognition.
so expensive sport = less pay to you? because more people can do it at home? what about go cart racing and F1? they overpaid?
World Cup Downhill MTB riders have 7-8 major races per year. The stakes are super high for each race, so they have to put everything into the event, but if they get seriously hurt they have a legit 4-6 month offseason to recover. Most of them want more races (10-12 seems like the perceived ideal). But going flat-out, elbow-to-elbow, for 10 months per year seems completely unsustainable. Seems like a big event once or twice a month is the sweet spot, with smaller regional events in between if the racers want more. It would allow more time for travel and recovery, and would probably lead to better racing because the athletes could be in better condition.
Im in the live music business. I can tell you that commercial travel takes the biggest toll. Getting to a crappy airport at the crack of dawn, going through security, dealing with the idiots at TSA, dealing with the general public, dealing with the airlines, dealing with delayed flights. It takes a huge toll on you mentally. Then there's the crappy hotels and transportation. It's not glamorous. It's a difficult existence.
MX is to F1 as Trucking is to MX. Talk about a job with travel, burnout and lack of pay or luxury. I know it's different when you're in the industry and living it but my sympathy is right where Major Payne said it was.
They seem so confused as to the why. The sponsors and money behind racing want maximum returns. It’s the same reason the NFL wants to increase the number of games in a season and preseason. Every time they can put on a show they can make money. You’re just a tool to be used to make money.. Welcome to the world of the Uber wealthy and everyone else.
I follow just about every form or 2 wheeled sports media and I can’t believe how the majority of people involved in it complain and whine. It is relentless. Totally out of touch with reality and normal working people. If it’s so bad quit and stop crying about how rough it is. Go get another cushy moto gig handed to you locally and complain about that too.
Gotta give a shout-out to Jase's retro black Rat-Racing t-shirt. I had one of those (with a full-sized graphic) as a race jersey in the late 80's.
I like Phil and this show, but boo, hoo, hoo. I have to work 52 weeks a year at a job and I don't like my job or any non sports job. Yes its dangerous, but you chose to do it. No one pull a gun on you on the street and forced you to be a mx rider. I hate it when any rider gets hurt but that's part of risk. Yes I wish that they got paid more, especially the guys in the bottom and feld and fim should have full insurance available for the riders. That's the criminal part of all of this.
Mid - season break ( possibly two) . No ride /testing rule mandatory. Works in other sports . Understand the financial implications, however the gain is longevity of the stars .
It must stink to be a pro athlete and have to cry about how you're flying to these amazing events to make money to do what you love...
Nobody twists your arm to be there and as much as I love Motocross and I love the Riders and I want them to stay healthy as a fan I am more than glad to watch all these races
Everybody loves riding, but there is a huge requirement to do the publicity thing. The ideal solution would have your own team in a system where their isnt a huge drain on your time. Thats the ultimate, but not realistic. One of Casey stoners reasons for riding was the demand for his time working foe the sponsers
Just realized this is from a year ago, it's worst today. Too much money involved. Modern Day Gladiators, circle up warriors
Epinephrine is adrenaline. Not recommended for repetitive usage. The starting gate was my adrenaline dump! LOL.
Focus of the sport should still be outdoors. Sx has always been a side show for the fans during the off season not the primary championship and smx is just a money maker. It’s a joke they were pushed to the forefront of the sport.
Just like I tell my kids. Do you know what you can do about it? Whine about it! Nobody gives two fks when everyone struggles in life
So an idea would be every rider gets out of 31 rounds has 5 throw outs. It could be used for injuries or recover strategies and track/rier preference strategies. And the series gets to keep the ridiculous schedule of 31
people dealing in high stress situations, with adrenaline, let's introduce more chemicals to people already predisposed to creating reactions in their brains, straight line to addiction. Fuck that. I hope the riders unionize.
Quit whining, “family desuptes” most riders retire by 30, how you think bridge builders, lineman and other construction workers do it for 30 years ?
It's way more fun to ride when you want. It's no fun at all to ride because you have no choice. You are better off washing dishes and ripping on the weekends.
The new generation complains about everything and no matter how much money they make its never enough.
Comparing retirement from motocross at a early age to being on a drug.Your whole life and having withdrawals let you know he has no idea what he speaks of
Dude, this episode was so fu#&ing good. Such a real insight into a lot of things that fans and others just don’t see or think about. We need to protect these riders and compensate them soooo much more than they are right now.
Why should they get paid more?
Especially the 5th to 20th.
It's the same in Europe some ones making money but the riders are not no money for privateers look at the MXGP start line Italy no full gate.
Racers need to do motocross or Supercross only contracts. This came about because they didn't want the new Supercross competitor series to become viable and cut into their business.
It's beyond a quagmire when the Riders have to pay entry fees at Supercross.
Supercross for the athletes is one of the worst forms of Entrepreneurship.
Should have taken time off to be a roofer or ditch digger like Christian Craig give you whole new appreciation.
If you want a normal life go get a normal job……….. you wanna be a superstar stop bitching about the price
Hearing this cast makes me appreciate the Old Schoolers that drove across the country in their Vans, slept in them, all for a beer budget reward.
You guys are complaining about having to fly and sleep in a hotel bed.
Damned, get some wine and cheese sponsors for your teardrop soaked pillows.
And I always thought because they have sweet Motor home at the Races they have it made 😂 Maybe 1% fly private jets if that !
It is ridiculous they need more time to rest and enjoy. They need multiple series in one year it is not dependent on them making it to the next. I do want to see the best versus the best it could be simply at triple crown style formats
Must suck living a lot of people’s dreams huh?
I'll just break this down real quick. Lets say he's living your dream. Well by definition, its your dream, which is the opposite of it being your reality; which is the same as saying you know nothing of what its like to live the reality of your 'dream'. It is his reality, and it some point it was just his dream... So being that he has lived the reality of his dream, and your dream, he has first hand knowledge and experience of it. So if he is giving this feedback on what it's actually like to live this dream, maybe you can take what he's saying on board and trust that it might not be exactly what you think it is like. Your comment makes it out like he isn't sympathetic to people who have his 'job' as a dream, but you miss the part where it was also his dream, now he's living it...
@@GYPSYTALES okay, going back and watching it again I see there was more to this. Form just this clip it seems like he’s just bashing on the sport and making it sound like it’s so miserable.
Participation is a choice.
Most people don't understand just how many risks a SX or MX racer takes every lap! After years of racing these risks are never removed but more that of just being dismissed through skill but like anything it is a numbers game. every so often something happens to remind you of just how many thousands of risks you took with near complete abandon
Gonna miss Phil, he always said what he thought, never sugar coated anything.
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Why are they complaining about being professional athletes?
I think one option could be to get another job where you aren’t exploited and risking your life…
So quick story true story Phil's dad stole money from his job to get Phil to LLR he came from nothing I remember see him sleeping in the back of an old box track it's crazy out of all the riders from district 34 in NY he some what made it
Not many people know or remember that about his dad
You must be pretty local to sullivan county like i am
Your parents got you in to this mess been there done that. The writing is on the wall get the hell out.
Phil is a bad ass.
Schedule solution: The riders can handle more riding in shorter periods of time and this would allow a longer Offseason which is what is required.
This was shown during the pandemic with residencies. So to shorten the number of weekends that the riders race without sacrificing rounds.
Supercross- have 7 Friday night and Sunday race weekends. This would shorten the overall season by 7 weeks and I don’t think that the Racers would struggle to recover in that period. Depending on scheduling and marketing a Tuesday night race could also be an option.
Motocross - To promote change, 4 rounds should be 3 x20 minute motos, this would work in the hot races also. You would then be able to have 24 motos over 10 rounds, again shortening the season by 2 weeks
This would then add an additional 9 weeks off in the off-season for the riders and not sacrifice any racing as that could affect the series financially.
Brilliant!
Complaining about it being too much? What about everyone who works a full time job M-F 10+ hours a day, until they’re 65, and then can draw their retirement. Sounds like guys are being ungrateful. They’re in the best health, are doing what they love, and also making great money. Most of them retire by 30, and if they have good investment tactics, they have over 40 years of just being with their family until they kick the bucket.
How do you think the rest of the world feels?
True. But ya gotta remember the majority of these guys grew up in wealthy families and all they’ve ever known was traveling the country racing. Most don’t know anything else. Kinda like politicians, they can’t relate to us common folk
There are guys that are fast and just rip. Most of it being tons of practice since they were like 5 yrs old. Its not as much natural talent as it is practice , plus your dad pushing you , then while your at school - Hes on the tractor moving your triples from 60' to 65' . You suddenly are doing 95' -100' triples when you're 14 yrs old no hesitation. Yeah those guys are fast and aee super talented. But its been a combination of dad pushing you and you have built a reputation as a fast up and coming kid .
But , you have guys that just have something special ,naturally talented, and have just have to be in front of everyone no matter what ! Plus will send it without hesitation with perfect bike control. This guy loves every minute on a a dirtbike and a track, and loves riding all the variaty of tracks plus has his favorites that he would ride without pay or sponsors. Just loves these tracks and loves grabbing those easy leads because he ia having fun and loves what he does + has problem being 2nd. He has to be in the front .
If your the guy who doesn't truly love every part racing dirt bikes ? You consider it work and you feel good as long as you make it to the mains and grab some podiums. Well you probably should get a job and give up the dream . Maybe in a couple years , you will miss racing so much you will actually become that guy . The guy who does have winning talent and loves just racing his dirt bike in every venue, being in front is the cherry on top. You are making a living doing what you love and no one is passing you .
Like JS7. He just HAD something
The F bombs Not needed
Calm down
Many points made - however each ends in contradiction. 😬
Fuck all that was depressing. Got to a better way!
I get and agree but at the same time the dangers of the sport is nobody’s fault but your own for choosing to do it no one is forcing you you don’t hear every day riders crying about getting hurt that is what used to draw people to our sport the danger the risk reward you just might not be meant for it mentally you don’t hear Travis Pastrana crying about all his injuries the only ones who cry are the ones who aren’t successful
It’s like saying “so what man, cars are dangerous… ok we could make them safer by putting air bags and seat belts in them, but the only ones complaining are the ones that actually crash”.
Didn't travis say all the training and racing was starting to get to him when he was racing right before that massive crash he had?
And people don’t drive cars if they think they’re too dangerous they walk or ride bicycles we could go tit for tat over this but let’s just be real it takes a certain amount of balls to reach certain levels not everybody is equipped. Any champion will tell you they were willing to die in any sport to be a champion that’s what separates winners and losers can’t change the rules because you lose that’s not winning but regardless love channel man. just believe people have to understand certain things are dangerous no matter what you change. motocross is one of them until you put that person in a bubble it never will be safe look how far sport has come in safety
I think you are missing the point. The only riders making big money are the top factory stars who win championships. The payout from the AMA is a joke. However in order to get to the level of making serious money the training needed is the same if not more than the factory guys. Between the travel time and money spent, eqp / parts / riding gear spent, race bike, practice bike etc ....ride time on a SX track that is a MUST ....100% risk vs NO reward ....Race series SX plus MX 3/ 4 of the year. .. the topic and complaint here is ......The amount of time , money and physical RISK needed to be a pro rider that unless the top 10 in Country do NOT earn the money they deserve while sacrificing Time, money and their physical well being. In short like they have said. . The risk is beginning to NOT be worth the Reward....
@@waynegarfield6607 then don't do it, get a real job and race for a hobby like almost everyone else.
Look at the scars on Phils arms. Thats MOTO
Then quit doing it, there solved the problem.
Love "Keep it real Phil"
The promoters are not risking their lives , they are just money hungry POS... Riders stick together and say F U no more... The way for change but riders will NOT do that...
Its interesting the dichotomy, because for every 1 guy that made it to the grind there are at least 1000 that tried and failed behind them. That said, maybe having more races would make teams think about splitting the races up and having double the riders? I don't know enough "inside baseball" to know if that sounds completely stupid or not. But from what I do know it is a thought.
You know, Whining and Crying about the number of races and the Practice, Conditioning, and Risks involved is 100% Pure Crybaby ! You have to be smart and Manage it. You can't be running 110% anymore. Manage the Risk and run at 75%. Do you really think that Haiden "Sky Dog" Deegan is going to have a long career like Windham ?
The powers that be know that when a rider gets injured, there is a bunch of young bucks just chomping at the bit for a ride. Personally, sx riders really do some amazing stuff, but there is so much good vintage, super evo etc racing out there now, it's quite often more entertaining.
Point your finger directly at Feld who simply doesn’t care about the sport or the riders or the fans it’s just money to them.
I could see how you might think that, but they do dozens of events every year that all go off without a hitch, even during nasty weather. They deserve criticism, but what you said is frankly just silliness.
Living the dream 🤣
Here’s my opinion, they need to provide medical insurance for the riders, because guys are gonna get hurt we all know that. I mean from January- October? That’s insane I don’t care if their is a 10million dollar purse, the factory’s need to pay there riders at least 5 million just to ride, hell they need to figure out a way to pay every rider.